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October 26, 2009, Monday, Hour #2
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I bring you greetings from the Lone Star State.
Mark Davison for Rush.
Rush is back tomorrow.
Telephone numbers 1-800-282-2882, our number two.
And if you're just joining us, we've spent a lot of time in our first hour on that very curious New York 23 race.
More of your calls on that and some other points that I want to share about that.
But let me lay down some layers of additional things.
I'll just flat out tell you that I don't know what you want to do with your kids on the swine flu shot.
We talked about that a lot when I was on Hannity on Wednesday night.
Boy, did we talk about that a lot.
And uh it was interesting because there's Mrs. Imus, who's a little real passionate about the the the swine flu shot is the devil's work.
Uh and and there's been skeptics well, not just skepticism, I think it's kind of interesting when two of the people who are or seem to be essentially telling you don't do not so much telling you, but saying that they are really suspicious of the swine flu shot.
Have Rush Limbaugh and Bill Maher ever said the same thing on any subject, even the sky is blue and grass is green.
Uh I don't know.
I think they they share uh many of you share a certain healthy skepticism of some of what we're being told.
I know there are doctors uh that I respect who say get it.
There are people whom I respect who are sufficiently skeptical, and it's not the kind of skepticism born of don't ever get your shot your kid shots for anything.
I've never, ever been part of uh of that subculture.
But uh this is a vaccine that hadn't been around a long time.
This is a strain in its modern incarnation that hasn't been around a long time.
So whatever you want to do, I'm prepared to be good with it.
And that's sort of my way of saying we don't really need to talk about that a whole lot right now.
Are you gonna get the shot?
Are you not gonna get the shot?
Do what you want to do.
But the politicization of uh of H1N1 is intriguing to me in two ways.
Let me share those and we can do that and add that to New York 23 and various other things that uh that we can talk about today.
Anything from the weekend is fine, anything in your head, just bounce it off us at 1-800-282-2882.
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Much appreciate it.
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Now, so Kathleen Sibelius, middle of last week is delivering this testimony about the vaccine.
And all I ever want, especially in times of trial, hurricane barreling toward our coasts, uh curious disease sweeping across the land.
All I all any American wants to do is to be able to trust those in power to do the right thing.
The reason I mentioned Katrina is that that's a natural phenomenon that there's not a whole lot we can do about except get out of the way.
And before it even became a FEMA issue for Brownie or President Bush, it was an issue uh for the governor of Louisiana and the mayor of New Orleans, and and they fumbled horribly.
I wish that with every pronouncement that has come and is going to come from the Federal Department of Health and Human Services.
I wish I didn't harbor a nagging pull on my sleeve that they're trying to keep this from becoming their Katrina.
And I also wish that in playing uh you know, prevent defense, if you will, are and it's been declared a national emergency now.
Is it?
Is it really?
And I'm not gonna sit here and tell you that I know that it's not, because nobody wants to do that.
How would you like to be the public health official who steps out to say, you know what?
Man, we are so over panicky about this swine flu.
Come on.
It's the flu.
Look how many people die from the regular flu.
Come on, get a grip.
How'd you like to be the official who says that?
And then, you know, 700 people die from the swine in the next uh in the ensuing months.
So over-cautiousness is something I think you're gonna see, and I don't even really mind so very much.
I'd rather be over cautious than then recklessly under cautious.
But I've just a couple of of additional nagging thoughts about anything that comes out of this administration's mouth or even local officials that deal with the politicization of swine flu.
The swine flu issue arises at a really interesting time, doesn't it?
Now some people's conspiracy wheels are turning so fast that they believe that the swine flu has been released among us right now, so that all this can take place alongside the health care debate.
You might want to tap the brakes on that one.
But since the swine flu issue has arisen, and it happens to be alongside the massive health care debate, is there an effort on the part of this white house to make it seem worse than it is so that we're all just thinking and worrying and gnashing our teeth and wringing our hands over the kind of coverage we have and to make us feel oh so good about government handling a health issue?
Look how look at the caution and and the talent and the aptitude and the conscientiousness with which uh this White House handled the swine flu thing.
Surely we can trust them with our health care.
Can you tell me they're not thinking that?
And let me ask you if something's happening where you live that's happening where I live.
In Dallas County, the word has come out that as very hotly sought after doses of the H1N1 vaccine become available, that there'll be some priorities, and there should be.
Healthcare workers, understand that.
Pregnant women, understand that.
The very old, the very young, understand that.
Ready for a criterion that made my eyebrows go up?
In Dallas County, Texas, you'll get preferential treatment for the H1N1 vaccine if you don't have health insurance.
Really?
So your ability to pay for it will now count against you.
Now, I'm fine if we're making this stuff available and they want to say, look, uh, let's have some for the people that can pay for it.
Let's not have people die of it because they can't.
If you want to have a little segment that you want to, let's give this to the folks, you know, without coverage, fine, fine, fine, fine.
You want to do that to some degree.
But outright preferential treatment for those without coverage?
Where might that motivation come from?
How might this play across the landscape of a country currently debating health care?
And how might this play on the policy deck of index cards of an administration that wants you to be all up in arms about the uninsured.
We must take you.
They're gonna die.
They're going to die because they're not insured.
There'll be piles of dead bodies in the streets unless we rush in and give preferential treatment for H1N1 shots to the uninsured who teeter at the precipice of death.
Just asking.
All right.
There's a gentleman named John Geezey, G-I-Z-Z-I, Gizzy Geezy, who has a there's a blog entry, I guess, or something, a piece of writing at Human Events, one of my favorite places, humanevents.com.
And this is about a month ago, but it it goes into what uh guilt well, guilt by association.
Sometimes it's appropriate.
You know, they say, oh, guilt by so that's just guilt by association.
Well, uh if you happen to accidentally be in a room with somebody who's bad and you didn't know it, then that's unfair guilt by association.
If you're hanging out with people who are bad and you do know it, that's fair guilt by association.
Uh C. Jeremiah Wright.
So let's see if you think this is fair.
John Geezey writes in Human Events about a month ago, but it talks, it goes straight to what uh that what everybody's trying to hang around, Didi.
And again, perhaps rightfully so, maybe not.
We'll see.
And that is that pesky working families party.
What's that?
Well, here we are.
State Assembly Woman Didi Scozafava, John Wright, has been re-elected several times on the ballot line of New York's far left working families party, one of whose co-founders is Acorn.
Acorn head Bertha Lewis, who is much in the news last week, doubles as vice chairman of the working families party.
Ooh, that's not good.
Caught in the middle is House Minority Leader John Boehner, who is simultaneously raising support for Skozafava and trying to defund Acorn.
Well, Mr. Geezy spoke with one of uh of Dee Dee's spokespeople, a gentleman named Matt Burns.
Here's what he writes.
When I mentioned the endorsement of the working families party in the House race, Scozafava spokesman Matt Burns told me, quote, there has been no discussion of this.
That is a month ago.
Asked about the party's ties to Acorn, spokesman Burns said that had Scoza Fava been in Congress during the vote last week, quote, she would have voted to defund Acorn.
The spokesman Mr. Burns added she has straight A's from the National Rifle Association and voted against Governor David Patterson's bloated Democrat budget this year.
Okay, that's those are good things.
But wow.
She appears as pro-choice as the Democrat.
She appears as pro-gay marriage as the Democrat.
Uh on card check and some other things, some other labor issues.
Tricky.
Very tricky.
So now on the other side of the coin, here is stuff from the National Republican Congressional Camp uh uh committee and RCC.
They're back in Dee Dee.
If she would have supported federal legislation to stop funding Acorn, she's the co-sponsor of legislation in the New York State Assembly, they say, which prohibits the use of state funds for Acorn or any organization associated with it.
Cross party endorsements are common in New York State, they say.
A number of Democrats also ran with support from the Conservative Party.
All right.
We'll stipulate those.
What I'm hearing from you folks is you don't care.
That the these days of confusing cross party endorsements have not been helpful.
And that what is helpful is clarity.
And what is something that you crave is um is down the line conservatives in virtually every district.
What I've said to you today is there's some districts where that's not going to happen.
There's some districts where you're you're absolutely going to lose to a Democrat.
And that might be it might be the case in 23, New York 23.
But for how long?
For how long?
And the vibe I'm getting from so many of you is if if the split vote between Didi Scozafava and Doug Hoffman results in a win for Bill Owens, okay.
That shows you don't give us Didi again in 2010, and maybe Doug Hoffman can be the actual Republican nominee in 2010, and we can have an actual conservative in that seat.
You tell me.
Tell me how that's working for you.
Uh, across the river from uh the state of New York in New Jersey, and this is very interesting because I was in New York again in the middle of last week and uh flew into LaGuardia, but out of Newark, got me a chance to uh head into the Garden State for uh a couple of hours at the uh at the airport there at Liberty International Airport in Newark.
And uh boy, you could scarcely see the ground for the uh Corzine Christie Daggett campaign signs on the way to the airport.
I want you thinking about that race as you head off on that business travel, New Jersey guys and gals.
Uh there is a uh lady who's gonna join us in New Jersey with a with a thought or two about that, because it's a similar uh thing.
Uh there's a gentleman named Chris Daggett, who is positioning himself to the right of uh of Republican nominee Chris Christie.
Are they gonna split the vote and give us some more John Corzine?
Same deal?
Is that the same logic?
Feeling good about that?
Let me know.
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Mark Davis in Texas InfoRush, who is back tomorrow, and you and I are back together in just a moment.
It is the Rush Limbaugh Show for this Monday, the 26th of October.
I'm Mark Davis filling in.
All righty.
Let's go to Jersey.
Got a big snoot full of New York.
Uh New Jersey stands up and say, hello, what are we?
Uh well, it's kind of funny.
Before New York 23 arose with with all of the uh Skozafava Owens and Hoffman uh uh intrigue, uh there is the story of of New Jersey, where uh Governor John Corzine really wants to keep his job.
Republican Chris Christie really wants to take it from him, and you would think, okay, wow, Republican governor, another Republican in New Jersey, that's that's a wonderful thing.
But as happened in New York uh Congressional District 23, someone took a look at Chris Christie and said, you know, uh not conservative enough.
And so there the Chris Daggett candidacy is born.
And uh he uh he's offering up sort of Doug Hoffman style arguments.
A vote for me is not wasted, no vote that's based on principle is ever wasted.
We need to deliver a message about consistent conservatism, da-da-da-da-da-da.
But in Whippany, New Jersey, Lucy is here uh with a thought or two about that race, and it's a pleasure to have you from the Garden State, Lucy.
Mark Davis here on the Rush Limbaugh Show.
How are you?
I'm fine, Mark, thank you.
Good.
Um Daggett may be positioning himself as a liberal, but from what I'm conservative.
As a conservative right, but from what I'm reading, he may be as liberal as as Mr. Corzine.
He is life.
He is not supporting traditional marriage, and he intends to raise or at least expand the services that are currently very high sales tax covers.
Right now we have a seven percent sales tax, and I believe it is higher than the average across the nation.
Are you a uh as you as you face this race, are are you uh uh uh really looking to get rid of Governor Corzine and just favor uh Chris Christie as the alternative?
Um Corzine has raised our taxes.
Yes, I would like to see him out of office.
Okay.
I am concerned about Daggett.
Um, because Christie at least has a plan for um repealing our um state taxes, cutting uh property taxes, and our personal income taxes.
And what really concerns me is that if Mr. Lautenberg or Mr. Menendez resign or retire, um, we would have an opportunity with Christie to get a conservative senator in Congress, and that would mean an awful lot.
Do you wish uh just seeking a more conservative governor than Corzine?
Do you wish that it was just a a two-person race and uh do you just wish Mr. Daggett were not running?
I do because I do think that Christie is more conservative on the issues that I care about than is Mr. Daggett.
All right, appreciate it.
Th see, this is the thing.
I could ask the same thing to people in New York 23.
I'm sure there's some folks who kind of wish that Doug uh they're they're perceiving Doug Hoffman as coming in here and sort of mucking up the works and and ruining what could clearly be uh a uh honestly, d it would be a pretty easy DD win if he weren't in this thing.
But you know what?
It'd be a pretty easy Hoffman win if she were not in this thing.
Because look at these, look at these uh uh the the poll numbers at the moment.
You know, thirty-five, thirty-five for the Democrat uh Bill Owens.
Uh uh while um uh Didi and Doug Hoffman uh put them together and and they're a majority.
And that's even with twelve percent undecided.
So it's all in how you look at it.
It's all in how you look at it.
Let's do here.
Um let us uh now here's a guy who is uh actually uh driving as we speak up to the district to uh to help Brother Hoffman.
Tom, hi, welcome to the Rush Limbaugh Show.
Mark Davis filling in.
How are you?
Mark, it's it's an honor to get the call into the show.
Thanks.
Um I just uh wanted to tell tell the listeners, um I'm pulled over I-90 on my cell phone.
I was afraid I'd leave the uh cell and pick up a different tower, maybe lose the call.
Thanks.
But I'm on my I'm on my way from Cincinnati, albeit outside of Rochester tonight and my sisters, and then I report for duty at the Watertown, New York um office to help Doug Hoffman.
Uh I understand they need a lot of feet on the ground out there.
Um and regarding the uh the election, I think um I I I think if we're looking at it as a comparison to New Jersey, Didi Skozafava is is pretty leftist, and if when compared to Christie, although Christie I wouldn't really call a conservative, Christie's at least maybe a little left of center, but still still better than, of course, Corzine and Governor.
And also keep in mind that the state of New Jersey overall is more to the left of center as opposed to the more conservative district twenty-three in the upstate New York.
And I don't want you to lose your main point because you got about 15 seconds.
Your point is if if Owens winds up winning, hold your nose for a year and a fraction because uh a real conservative could get could win the seat back in 2010.
I I think if if DD uh if Didi doesn't win and the Democrat wins, that's a setback for the establishment, but it's still a minor issue.
All right, so appreciate it.
More of you next.
I'm Mark Davis filling in for Rush.
Filling in for just one day, Rush is back with you tomorrow.
Let's see who's with us now.
Lest you believe that uh all of this uh special election uh uh energy is focused on uh New York and New Jersey.
Uh there's a vacancy out in California.
Uh special uh election in the 10th district there, as Ellen Towser, the Democrat incumbent, left to become uh one of the U.S. undersecretaries of state.
Race going on out there that Ray in Livermore, California wishes to uh uh get us up to speed on.
Ray, you're on the Rush Limbaugh show.
Mark Davis filling in.
How are you?
Great, Mark, and thanks for being there.
We used to get your uh weekend show here.
Not anymore, but I really liked listening to you when we got you in the area.
You're very kind.
Um Ellen Township's been tapped as an undersecretary, which leaves the 10th district open, and our currently our lieutenant governor who's a lifelong uh political uh person, he's been from one office to the next, is trying to get that seat on name recognition.
But we have a true Reagan Republican by the name of David Harmer.
And uh and he his father was Ronald Reagan's lieutenant governor, and this apple hasn't fallen very far from the tree.
I think he's a good choice.
He doesn't have the name recognition that this big time political operative that he's running against does.
So may I direct uh the listeners of the Rush Limbaugh show to his website?
You know what?
I tell you what I'm gonna do.
There's a reason why I'm gonna say no.
Number one, we'll we'll because we'll do nothing else if I allow it.
Number two, free country, smart people, David Harmer, H A R M E R, Google him and you're there.
Uh John Garamendi is the gentleman who you mentioned first, the sitting lieutenant governor, so let me just seriously, you know I love you, but seriously, it's I'm asking for a nightmare if we do that.
Now, that being said, let's let's talk about this for a minute.
How are the polls going?
Uh Ellen Toucher, obviously a Democrat.
She probably would have uh won re-election if she'd stuck around.
John Garamendi is the sitting lieutenant governor.
That's probably helpful.
So what are people thinking, again, trying to separate out the wishful thinking from the clear cold uh analysis?
What do you think Mr. Harmer's chances are?
Well, he doesn't have the name recognition, and what we have to point to is how Democrats in this state have failed the citizens of the state of California, and that uh this state is run by Democrats and has been for a long time, and our economy is just in the tank.
And everyone knows that the way that California goes is the way that other states of the country are gonna go uh because of big government, big regulation, California Air Resources Board constantly upping the ante and setting new standards, which the rest of the nation eventually is forced to follow through federal regulation.
And so if you look at Garamendi's record, he's really a failure here in California.
He was an insurance commissioner, and there was a big uh dust up about that also.
This man is uh again a lifelong politician, and I think that's really the problem with our country right now, is too many of these lifers who get in it as a career rather than serving their country and then going back to be a citizen as uh George Washington taught us right from the beginning.
Well, uh that resonates with me.
I think it'll resonate with Republicans in the district.
Let me tell the country where the district is, and I hope it doesn't deflate them too much.
You're in the East San Francisco Bay neighborhood, and this tenth district went uh, let me see, I was just looking while you were looking, I was looking at something when you were talking, I was looking, uh went for Obama was sixty-five percent, buddy.
Yeah, well, you know, this district has been so gerrymandered, it runs up the length of a freeway for I don't know, ten or fifteen miles to join into other counties, and it's kind of a joke how these districts are cut.
We really need to look at that again and cut these things as square as possible and along city and county lines, rather than having part of this town running up past one county into another county and picking up another town so they can uh gerrymander uh districts that are very difficult to shake an incumbent out of.
And Mark, I think that's one a big problem that we're up against here and and why we're seeing uh uh what we're seeing.
And as I've said before, the way California goes is the way the the rest of the nation's gonna go, and I'm sorry to say that to you folks, but we need your help here.
If you can send some money off to David Harmer, and you are you are you are you have done him proud, and I'm more than glad to uh uh to to share that.
Yeah, that's uh thanks, uh Ray appreciate it.
Uh you know, um so there you are.
Th this would have been uh a perhaps in the minds of some.
Uh it is California.
It's in the East Bay uh portion up there in the in the uh Northern California, uh sixty-five percent Obama.
Ellen Tasher probably could have been Congresswoman there as long as she wanted.
This could have been uh uh a perfect proving ground for another uh squishy moderate, uh who would probably might be doing better in the polls than uh than Mr. Harmer is right now.
But what does that get you?
What does that get you?
Sort of the question of the day.
Well, I'll tell you what, uh let's stay in California.
So any time someone wants to uh to invoke uh the things from the era of the founding fathers, I'm always glad to cock and ear in that direction.
In Sacramento, John Mark Davis in for rush.
How are you?
Doing great today, Mark.
I'm really glad I get to talk to you.
I really love when you run the show.
Uh you're a thinking man, and and it's just great to listen to you uh you know run through everything so eloquently and s with great wit.
I mean, I I really like you really glad you're I'm humbled, thank you very much.
Um I'm calling about the about the New York race.
I have never been interested in in a New York race.
Uh and so this is what gets my attention in the first place.
What I said to the call screener was to me, it's kind of a bellwether thing with with that whole thing that's going on over there, because um, you know, when we fought against the British, history said the British were unbeatable.
And this to me, this is parallel to that in saying, look, we need to choose our battles.
We need to even uh even the small towns, because they're the crossroads there, and they're they're important because it's taking us to the larger battles.
And we really need to support conservatives so that so that the Paul Reverse out there can get the message back out and say, look what happened in New York.
Even if he lost, he if if he beats the Republican by a large margin, uh that's gonna shake up you know the Republican establishment, what Ray was talking about, lifers, and uh I think they need to see that.
I appreciate that Sarah Palin is supporting him because uh you can see the support for Sarah Palin, and that's a bellwether.
And if you liken it to the movie uh Patriot, when the flag was being brought forward and then there was confusion, the bag b the flag began to be uh run backwards, and then the Mill Gibson character grabs the flag and he's ho forward.
You know, uh there has to be something that people can look and say, there's the banner, it's moving forward in the in the thick of the battle in the fog of war, and these this is what it's important to us, and we need to get that message out because it's being suppressed by the mainstream media, it's being tamped down, and our leaders uh including Rush are being um attacked viciously, and we need to um rally in in a fashion that says we are not gonna put up with this anymore.
And again, likening it to the British history.
If we had said no, they're too large, we historically we can't beat them, let's let's lay down our arms.
We would never have been the the the public that we are today.
Oh no.
All right, John, thank you.
Appreciate it very, very much.
All right, the the um that call and uh a couple of others today uh send me uh toward uh another question I want to ask you, and that is uh anti-incumbency fervor.
All right.
I've always believed that our annoyance with people who are in office for a really long time is tied directly to whether we voted for them or not.
That uh my Republican congressman, whom I would gladly keep for fifty years, uh his Longevity uh d does not uh trouble me, whereas the Democrat senator who has annoyed me uh for my entire adult life, that's a problem.
I I've always thought that we see that through our our own sort of political glasses.
Maybe that is less so.
I am noticing a willingness on the part of more and more people.
Uh not just and this goes farther than just a uh a general taste for term limits, turnover for turnovers sake, which a lot of people have liked for a long time.
Um I'm a marketplace guy, and that has prevented me from being a wholesale embracer of of term limits.
Uh I I just wish the electorate uh could be counted on to kick bums out.
Uh Congress routinely gets abysmal, like 15 percent approval ratings, and then 92% of them get re-elected.
What is that about?
Well, it's about the power of the incumbency, which is apparently a big bowl of crack that we all take a hit off of and just dutifully go out and return the people to office who moments earlier we said we wouldn't let wash our cars.
So maybe there is something too of not just term limits.
I've always respected the concept.
If we had them tomorrow, I'd be fine with it.
Um I guess the thing that's kept me I guess I've been sort of a 90% term limit guy, uh, is that uh from various members of Congress right now.
My uh I have a very important member of Congress right now, and that's Michael Burgess in the 26th district of Texas, uh both uh a solid Republican and a doctor.
He's gonna very much help us with the help of a lot of other noble Republicans uh to try to bring about health care solutions that deal with free markets and don't strip consumers of choice and don't involve government running all kinds of aspects of our lives.
And he's been my congressman for what?
Six years, eight, I and and I'd he can stay for twenty far as I'm concerned.
Why should somebody tell me he's gotta go when he gets to twelve?
Well, I'm starting to understand the answer to that question.
It is because it's just good.
Let somebody else in there.
And if you want him back, he can come back.
Um I've you know uh I'm I'm becoming a greater appreciator of that.
And and then every once in a while you'll get bursts of uh of activism on that pesky internet, right uh local ties right around here.
I know these folks.
There's a thing out right now called fire the ruling class.org.
Fire the ruling class.org.
It's banner says vote incumbents out.
Join our nonpartisan movement to remove career politicians from office.
So are we reaching the end of the era when we say, you know, if he's my guy, he can stay there for 40 years.
Or more and more people willing to say, you know, I may love my congressman.
I've vote for him all six times that I'm entitled to, but then if he's gotta go, he's gotta go.
Because, you know, absolute power corrupts absolutely, and there's a glaze that comes over a lot of people.
They're elected on the most noble of conservative uh precepts, and then they just get in there and it all starts to work on them.
It all starts to work on them.
So that uh again, uh the fire the ruling class.org people uh don't they're not looking to just get rid of of Democrats.
They'll apparently just as happily get rid of Republicans who have been there too long as well.
Uh where are you on that?
Is there are are you developing an anti-incumbency fervor, irrespective of um uh of the politics of it, irrespective of uh of whether it's your congressman or not.
All right, Mark Davis in for Rush just today, Rush is back tomorrow.
You and I are back together in a moment.
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Throwing me a little Texas band to make me feel at home.
I so appreciate it.
Little Z top.
What are they on there?
70th anniversary tour.
Playing, playing.
Uh when do they start growing those beards?
Uh right after Lagrange, right after uh I don't know.
That's that's a f that's a fun act, though, man.
That's a fun act.
In fact, they'll be uh we got we have a we got a NASCAR race right here in the backyard here in Texas, a Texas Motor Speedway, and they're uh they're playing, I think it it they're play they're When's the last time Z Top played on a Sunday morning?
Uh, there you go.
Make if any of you on the NASCAR tour, make sure you get down here to uh To Texas Motor Speedway.
Nothing uh nothing the matter with that.
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I'm Mark Davis filling in for Rush.
Let's see here.
Let us speak of Texas.
Let's go down I-45 to Houston.
Gary, Mark Davis in for Rush.
How are you?
Hey, Mark.
This is Gary.
Uh the contractor with America, one of the planks that they avoided once the Republicans got into power was the uh term limits.
And uh then Tom Colburn felt limited himself when he went to the House from Oklahoma and uh wrote a book called Breach of Faith, which talks about how incumbents get in there and they become uh on that cocaine you're talking about and forget about their constituency and exactly what these guys are saying, and he is an advocate of all of them uh career politicians going home.
Uh if you listen to Senator Colburn, he will uh he will preach it even though he is one of the doctors that's there that is uh drumming, beating the drum for the health care and heather great man.
He would uh go home tomorrow if if uh if he thought it would help.
So uh those are the things that we're gonna do.
What do you think is the best?
What what's the best way to do this?
To sort of leave it to uh a very tricky marketplace uh with incumbency tilting the playing field mightily and say, look, let's have a bunch of people uh espousing the virtues of taking yourself out after two terms in the Senate or six in the House, twelve years both sides.
Let's let's talk that up and make it noble and and really start to hammer people that don't do that, or should it j just let's flat out make it the law.
That's it.
Term limits no choice, boom out you go.
We do it with we do it with our presidents.
These guys, they will not do it for themselves.
They're too drunk on the power.
The only way you're gonna do it is to legislate it.
I'm sorry.
But they uh I used to not believe that.
I used to I used to not believe it, but I I really kind of do now.
I and I hate anything that uh Gary, thank you.
Let me let me thank you and and try to get one more in this segment.
I hate losing faith in people.
I I I always like to gain faith in people, but I need reason to.
And if there's anything that that my faith in people is way low, it's my faith in the electorate to to truly uh be blind to the the glaring light of the incumbency.
Um and maybe that's not people's fault.
There are things that are available to incumbents that are not available to challengers.
Uh one, including the the the anointing of of party insiders who will just uh uh f fight tooth and nail to prevent those pesky wheels off, unreliable rogue uh challengers.
Um status quo for the sake of the status quo.
So maybe it's just poisoned.
Maybe that maybe there's just no way to have what I really want, uh, which is uh an electorate that is so plugged in and so willing to bring uh uh passions to the ballot box, uh bring what you say to the ballot box.
I'm really tired of all these folks in Congress.
We really need some turnover.
And then it's like Stepford wife syndrome.
Must re-elect incumbent, must be blind to the uh attributes of challengers, must return them all to office, even if I've been complaining about them for two straight years.
That's what we do.
It's what we do, probably not gonna change.
Makes term limits a good idea.
Makes a commercial break a good idea too.
That way we can actually get a call in on the other side.
Mark Davis in for Rush Limbaugh, back in a moment.
Couple of minutes left in this hour.
Let's give them to someone here on the Rush Limbaugh Show.
Rush is back tomorrow.
I'm Mark Davis at WBAP in Dallas Fort Worth, filling in today.
Let us head next.
Let's go to Tar Heel State.
Let's go to Kerry, North Carolina.
Nana is it?
Hi, Mark Davis in for Rush.
How are you?
Yes, good to talk to you.
Um I do m miss the big man.
I love Rush.
But uh I have a few questions and a comment.
And one comment is uh who would the Republicans like to see go against uh B.O. Because um I haven't really heard anyone that other than um Gangrich and give me a break on that.
But the questions I have are do you believe there are Trojan horses in the Tea Party movement that are working it for Obama?
Um he seems to be so confident.
And can teabaggers form a union?
Okay, wow, there let's which of those five shall we address first?
Uh first off first on the Republican field in twenty twelve.
It it's kind of uh bad form for somebody to get out right now and say, I am running in twenty twelve.
Uh i it's it's it they just they just that's just bad form.
Let twenty ten happen and then you'll see people start to position right away.
Are there Trojan horses in the Tea Party movement?
Maybe a couple, but you can't fake that for very long.
Why does Obama seem confident?
Because that's what he does.
He will exude confidence even as his administration crashes and burns if it does.
And with that, a proper end to the hour.
Thank you very, very much, ma'am.
Mark Davis, In for Rush.
One more hour.
Let's hang out a little longer together on this Monday.
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