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Oct. 26, 2009 - Rush Limbaugh Program
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October 26, 2009, Monday, Hour #1
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Welcome to today's edition of the Rush 24 7 Podcast.
Thanks, Johnny.
Thanks everybody.
Thank you, Rush, for letting me have the chair for one day.
One day, Rush is back tomorrow.
I always enjoy the phraseology of that intro, custom crafted for me, I'm honored.
You know what the difference is, though, between the Republican Revolution of 94 and me?
I never lost my rudder, at least uh and and God bless Newt and God bless the Republicans of 94 and now Newt's everywhere, uh, you know, cranking out appearances and books about every other hour, and people are talking about maybe Newt needs to run for president, maybe Newt needs to be president.
Somebody needs to be president that can undo what's being done now.
And some interesting comparisons are being made between the atmosphere of 1994 when things looked very dark for the Republican Party.
Bill Clinton had just won, defeating uh George H. W. Bush, whose uh approval levels had been in the nineties, just a blink of an eye earlier.
Ugh, not since Watergate had things looked so dark.
And then Republicans simply said, you know what?
We're gonna hit the ground harder and faster and and better.
We're gonna do that contract with America, and we're gonna look like we deserve power back.
Isn't that what right now is all about?
Isn't that what 2010 is all about?
1-800-282-2882 is the Rush Limbaugh Show telephone number, as you well know.
And Rush is back tomorrow.
I'm Mark Davis at WBAP in Dallas Fort Worth, and I figured today what we would do is look at some broad thematics of what we're all trying to do every day to kind of uh refocus our energies and achieve some success in 2010 and 2012 for conservatism,
but also take a look at some things that are brand new in the uh in the headlines this morning, brand new from the weekend uh topical TV shows and such, and uh intersperse some thoughts that I have with some things that are on your mind from the weekend gone by.
Uh little open line Monday, you might almost call it, and uh once again, very, very grateful to be given the opportunity to hang out with all of you today.
One of the battlegrounds, which is already proving to be uh a very interesting Petri dish for what kind of Republicans do we want, right?
Isn't that the question?
What kind of Republicans do we want in the Senate, in the House?
What kind of candidates are going to earn conservative uh favor uh in 2012?
But let's go right to uh ground zero for that battle, and that is the 23rd District of New York.
Never has so much attention been paid to such a lovely, relatively sparse and pastoral part of our country.
I'll bet it's beautiful up there.
Never been, but if uh it's if Vermont's right next door, so is Canada.
And you know what that means?
It means you got a sort of a different breed of Republican candidate up there.
You got a sort of a different breed of Republican voter up there.
The New England Republican has always kind of intrigued me.
I had a chance to uh speak with former uh Rhode Island Senator Lincoln Chafey on the occasion of the publication of a book of his last year.
I I found myself asking, sir, why why are you a Republican at all?
I mean, we've all heard the the the uh the Rhino acronym, Republican in name only.
But boy, I vi this th it just it tickled my fancy to wonder why why weren't you just a Democrat?
But from him to Susan Collins and Olympia Snow in Maine to various other folks that you can find.
Uh you remember the whole Jim Jeffords thing in in Vermont, where he just was uh he just couldn't stay in a Republican Party that actually stood for conservative things.
So up in that part of the country, Republicanism is really interesting and probably farther from mainline conservatism than almost anywhere else in the country.
So it is into that arena that we have a fascinating battle brewing.
And the battle is brewing not just within the 23rd District of New York.
It is brewing throughout the state.
It is brewing throughout the country.
If you're new to this and just starting to pay attention, I'll give you some of the uh the basics.
And then I just want to invite a bunch of your calls because it goes right to the heart of how to take the Tea Party passions, the town hall passions, how to play hard and play smart, and try to bring about what I think a really big percentage of the Rush audience wants,
what a really big percentage of Republican voters want, what a really big percentage of conservatives want, and that is a Republican party that is unapologetically conservative, that has its rudder set correctly, that knows where it wants to go,
doesn't make excuses, doesn't apologize for it, argues in an upbeat, pleasant way, that the things we want, smaller government, the things we want, lower taxes, the things we want, personal responsibility, the things we want on the social agenda are things that are good to believe in.
So here's where this field is striped.
The Congressman in District 23, up in New York, used to be a gentleman named John McHugh.
He resigned to become U.S. Secretary of the Army.
So into that vacuum, rush, our cast of characters.
There is no primary.
New York state law allowed for this.
And so what we wound up with in New York was party insiders, the smoke-filled backroom imagery hangs heavy here.
But through what appears to be a lawful method, uh, the Republican Party of New York offers up a state assembly woman, a businesswoman named Dee Dee Skozafava.
Now is she a real uh, you know, is she is she Sarah Palin?
Is she, I mean, is she uh doesn't have to be a woman.
Is she a really tried and true conservative?
No.
Because one can argue, would a really consistent down the line conservative even win that district?
Well, we're about to find out.
Because as soon as the Republican Party offered up Didi Scozafava as the Republican combatant up against Democrat Bill Owens, who stands to benefit from all of this, along comes a gentleman, an accountant, community activist, an army veteran, a noble and honorable and decent guy, and a by many measures, an actual conservative named Doug Hoffman.
So the lack of a really actual conservative in the race led Doug Hoffman to run, and it has now led a bunch of people in New York and a bunch of people around the country to rally behind him in an effort to see if we can get the third party guy,
the conservative party, to beat not just the Democrat Bill Owens, but to beat the thoroughly unsatisfying to many, Dee Dee Scozafava.
There you are.
So far so good, right?
Here's what I was talking about last week on the show that I host here in the Dallas Fort Worth area.
The first thing that occurred to me, and I heard all these people lining up behind Doug Hoffman, and I was inspired by it.
The idea of an actual conservative riding in to the rescue of conservative voters in this district, left with an unsatisfying choice between a liberal Democrat and a fairly liberal Republican.
Here's an actual conservative wonderful story.
I love it.
Except for one thing.
I don't know if Doug Hoffman can win.
Sitting here today, I don't know if Doug Hoffman can win.
In fact, I have enormous doubts.
Nothing against Doug Hoffman or his candidacy or the support that he is garnering.
That's all very inspiring.
Uh but Didi is apparently the mirror image of most issues of the actual incumbent who did win in a district that went fifty-two percent for Obama.
This is not a district in Utah or Mississippi or even my part of Texas.
This is way upstate, almost New England, New York, where precisely two Republicans are in their delegation.
One of them is one of my favorite guys ever, Peter King.
Newt Gingrich has come out and endorsed Dee Dee.
But you know what?
The host of this show ain't doing that.
And our mutual buddy Mark Levin ain't doing that.
Sarah Palin ain't doing that.
And a lot of people are saying, you know what?
I don't really care if we hand this to the Democrat Bill Owens.
I mean, they care, like not to do it.
But on principle, we're going to back Doug Hoffman.
And if Republicans lose that seat, let that be a lesson to them.
In other districts, not to offer up squishy moderates, but give us reliable conservatives whom we can have faith and confidence in.
So my first question for you today is that smart?
It's inspiring, no doubt about it.
How do you not love this?
Ton of people that we all love and admire.
Getting behind Doug Hoffman.
Yeah, man, let's see if we can put him over the top.
Well, he's, you know, third in the polls.
Mr. Owens, the Democrat has about 35%, which is interesting.
That means 65% don't want him.
And most of those 65% are split between the Republican Didi Skozafava and the Conservative Party's Doug Hoffman.
We've we've seen all kinds of things like this happen right next door in New Jersey.
We may be seeing a similar thing, or a more conservative independent may end up uh, you know, letting John Corzine keep his job because Chris Christie can't get uh can't survive the uh the challenge from from his right.
So is it good when we do this?
Is this helpful?
Maybe it is.
Because as recently as the end of last week, I was telling the Texas audience down here, you know, guys, uh be careful what you wish for, because all these Tea Party passions, all these town hall passions, yeah, let's get behind this independent, or yeah, let's get behind this third party.
Okay, get ready when you help Democrats win, because that's exactly what you're gonna do.
Then I started to read my emails.
And I derived from them, as I may well, as I may well derive from your calls today, the degree to which many of you view that as a price worth paying.
One seat out of four hundred and thirty-five.
And if conservatives across America can get behind Doug Hoffman, even if it elects Bill Owens, the Democrat, the lesson from that for the Republican parties of our states, for Republican voters for Republican Republican machine, is you better get behind reliable conservatives, or the blood will hit the walls.
Or there will be trouble.
And the number of people who are willing to uh even as much as all it seems like all we want is is beat Nancy Pelosi.
Try to win some Republican seats back.
It's all we want to do.
Well, apparently it's not all we want to do, because many of the folks I've been talking to are willing to hand this seat to Bill Owens, if that's what it takes to deliver the message that when someone has an R by his or her name, it ought to actually mean something.
A very good friend of mine, Congressman Pete Sessions of the 32nd District of Texas, is the chairman of the NRCC, the National Republican Congressional Committee.
And he is getting lit up like a Christmas tree.
There, and I wonder to what extent is this happening in in your town, in your state, are pretty reliable conservative Republicans lining up behind DD because they just don't want to lose that seat to Nancy Pelosi.
I think that's an argument they can make.
It's an argument I was making much of last week.
But I've really had my eyes opened to the to the degree to the depth of passion that says if if there's if we got to walk through some tough times, even tougher than now to deliver the message to uh your Republican anointers that squishy moderates uh either need not apply or will be summarily uh punished, then that's what you do.
So I'm asking you, is that what you do?
I have uh some of the material that the NRCC is gonna use to make you feel better about Dee Dee.
I'll I'll put it, I'll put it to the test and see if it works.
And what better uh what better Petri dish than the Rush Limbaugh show for that?
And uh mostly I want to just ask you what your thoughts are about uh about that whole brew haha and various others that we'll talk about today as well.
So that's just one thing.
There's plenty more to come.
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I'm Mark Davis in for Rush, just one day.
Pleasure to be here.
Rush is back tomorrow, and you and I are back after a short pause on the EIB network.
It is the Monday Rush Limbaugh Show.
I'm Mark Davis, deep in the heart of Texas, doing that fill in the host thing I get to do from time to time, and very grateful to be here with you.
I can't think of a call.
It's better to kick us off than one that is from that beautiful pastoral corner of the Empire State in the 23rd district of New York.
Bob Mark Davis, welcome to the Rush Limbaugh Show.
How are you?
I'm wonderful.
Well, I'm angry, actually.
How about yourself?
It is possible to be both wonderful and angry at the same time.
So that's okay.
Might be the makings of a talk show host, didn't you?
What's going on?
Well, I heard you caught talking about the 23rd district, and by George, that's me.
Um I'm fed up with rhinos, Republicans in name only.
Didi Skozafava ran as a Republican.
She votes as a Democrat.
George Pataki, our former governor, did the same thing in the last time he was in office.
He ran as a Republican, and after he got elected, he gave the Liberals everything they wanted.
Higher taxes, he was for homosexual marriage, and he lied to us also.
I'm supporting Doug Hoffman because he's an honest conservative.
I would rather have an honest Democrat in office than a lying Republican.
This is rural country farmland.
We're the home of Fort Drum, which is the home of the 10th Mountain Division, the most deployed unit in the military.
We're conservative here.
We still go to church, we still raise the flag, the kids still say the Pledge of Allegiance.
It's on the radio in the morning.
Indeed.
Let me back up a second.
We're conservative here.
You're conservative to a degree there, because the Republican prior incumbent John McHugh wasn't exactly a modern day Reagan, and the district went fifty-two percent for Obama.
Because we had a choice.
We had John McCain or Mr. Obama.
We knew that.
What's that?
How's that working out for you?
McCain supports Obama.
It was a flip of a coin.
Yeah, it's it's okay.
This is a this you're you are perfect.
Here's here's why.
I I understand and share uh your the frustrations of no no no no I uh understand completely.
Here's the thing.
Um with the uh frustrations that can arise of insufficiently conservative Republicans, do we deliver a valuable message by denying those people that we agree with half the time in in in order to what winds up happening is we end up electing people whom we agree with none of the time.
Tell me how that's helpful.
I think it's helpful because the people who do not vote can now see what they will get if they do not vote.
They got Obama.
And now they disagree, and now maybe they'll get off their couch and go vote.
That's uh in twenty in twenty even before twenty twelve in twenty ten to try to undo some of this radical agenda that they didn't see coming.
So to bring it to your district, if the activism behind Doug Hoffman helps the Democrat Bill Owens win, with you, because you're in the district and rest of us around the country, we get a little bit of an I told you so, so that in 2010 we say, all right, you got a real Democrat.
You got an Obama actual down the line ally in Bill Owens.
If you don't like that, let's tee it up again in 2010, and this time give us Doug Hoffman as the Republican nominee, and we'll actually win.
I think O uh Hoffman will win.
I think what's happened in in Washington and the fact that the Republicans have no say, and the fact that they're being quiet about it has enough people aggravated that they will support Mr. Hoffman.
Well, I th I've I am fascinated by it, and and thank you enormously, Bob.
That is the f geographically and in terms of content.
I couldn't have have taken a better first call.
Uh I try hard, and we should all try hard uh to separate what we hope to happen from what is likely to happen.
And I've I Bill Owens is is a is a predictable down-the-line Democrat who has broad Democrat support.
Uh, even with the the the war of words between Didi Skozafava and Doug Hoffman, she's just gonna still get a little big chunk of Republican votes, but how big?
But how big?
Um I don't know if Hoffman can win.
Nothing would thrill me more if he did, and maybe there's some history on his side that I'll tell you about next on the EIV network.
1-800-282-2882.
Going back to your calls as soon as I share a little bit of history.
Uh, I have shared with you, uh, because I just I just think honesty requires me to, uh, my huge doubts that Doug Hoffman can win.
Not because uh of any of any criticism I have of him or his campaign.
I I I will j'll leave it when I see it.
And I hope to see it.
I hope next time I get the honor of filling in here, I'll say, wow, my uh my uh uh doubts about Doug Hoffman's uh uh chances were ill-placed.
So what leads to my thoughts about that is that Bill Owens is uh uh a good candidate, a good Democrat candidate in a district that won 52% for Obama.
Uh Didi Skozafava is is getting you know pretty pillaried these days.
Some of that is absolutely uh striking home, but there are plenty.
The big answer, the big question is how many, but but plenty of Republican voters in 23 who are gonna vote for because they voted for John McHugh and they view her as John McHugh in a dress.
I'm just gonna scrub my brain of that imagery, sorry about that.
Uh, but this is the kind of Republican that won the last time a Republican won.
And um so we can sit here and wish all day and hope all day that every uh that every district uh that had a Republican incumbent is is absolutely looking for down the line, tick them off, reliable, conservative on absolutely everything.
But the fact of the matter is that's not what every single district is looking for.
It's what I'd like to have.
It's probably what you'd like to have.
It's what Bob, our last caller from New York 23, would like to have.
The big uh, and there's still 12 percent undecided here.
Still 12 percent undecided.
And right now, the latest poll, and this was this was commissioned by the the Daily Cos folks, so take that with whatever size grain of salt you want.
Uh 35 for Democrat Bill Owens, 30 for Didi, and 23 for Doug Hoffman.
Now, can you make that up?
If all 12 percent of the undecideds go for Hoffman, which ain't gonna happen.
Uh he he still uh, you know, uh it's I uh that it ain't gonna happen.
The only thing that that can happen between now and that election day is I guess for that poll to be wrong, and for just an unbelievable swell people are gonna have to bail from Skozafava so profoundly that that Hoffman can take the lion's share of the re uh uh of the conservative leaning Republican leaning votes in that district.
Now, can that happen?
Yes.
Is it likely?
No.
So we find ourselves talking about what are we doing here?
You're gonna hand Nancy Pelosi, uh, another ally in Bill Owens, but a lot of folks say that's a price worth paying to deliver a lesson.
You want to lose some more?
You want to lose some more seats?
Wall Street Journal editorial was essentially took this tone.
It's like they're trying to lose this seat by offering up someone so sufficiently unsatisfying to so many as Dee Dee is.
So here's the history I wanted to offer you.
New Yorkers will tell you about this, at least the ones who have been paying attention to their own state.
Remember the early to mid-1970s?
I know, unfair question.
For those who do, here's what happened to what was essentially the Bobby Kennedy Senate seat from 1971 through 1976, essentially till till just before Carter was inaugurated.
James Buckley was one of the two United States senators from New York.
He was not a Republican.
He was not a Democrat.
He was a member of the conservative party.
Here's how that all happened.
In 1968, a liberal Republican, Jacob Javitz, was running for re-election, and Mr. Buckley, James Buckley, challenged him and got creamed.
But but James Buckley got a lot of votes from various disaffected conservative Republicans.
And this was in 1968.
In 1970, he ran again for the U.S. Senate.
This time he was running against another liberal Republican, Charles Goodell.
Who's he?
Goodell had been appointed to the Senate by Governor Nelson Rockefeller following Bobby Kennedy's assassination.
So Buckley had a campaign slogan in 1970 that I think was genius.
Isn't it time we had a senator?
So Goodell and the actual Democrat, a gentleman named Richard Ottinger, split the liberal vote, and James Buckley won with 38% and was sworn into the Senate on January 3rd, 1971.
That is what Doug Hoffman needs to have happen.
Now 38% may well win this.
Right now, Doug is more than 10% behind that.
But it's not like he's got 5%.
He's not doing what the average third party or independent uh candidate does, which is you know, wallow down there in the single digits.
And I I figure Doug Hoffman's numbers can only grow.
I mean, they they might grow more.
I don't know.
But that's that's that's the history that you could say is on Doug Hoffman's side.
But we need to find out if Doug Hoffman is James Buckley.
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We are in Waverly, Nebraska.
Terry Mark Davis in for Rush.
Welcome to the Rush Limbaugh Show.
How are you?
Man, it is a great thrill to talk to you, and I love when you feel in for Rush.
You're great.
I looked at you guys on KFAB, and uh who couldn't be better.
The squishy, squishy, squishy Republican.
They're trying, they're trying to tell us what we want, just like the Congress and the Senate and Obama.
You don't want that.
You want this.
That's that's they're stupid.
They're they're ignorant, and uh I'm just disappointed in them.
Uh I I just thought still would be a lot better than what he is right now.
He should be pushing some of this uh baloney out the window, and it's just uh just frustrating.
Uh let me give you let me give you a piece of I don't know what to do.
Let me give you a piece of logic, because this is what uh are you as uh here's here's the other side of that, and I'm probably gonna offer it up to a lot of people today because that's the other argument.
I want to see how they how they respond to it.
Because it is the NRCC argument, a lot of incumbents in Congress, it's the Newt Gingrich argument, and we all love Newt to varying degrees.
Uh, but again, this is where the the sides are split.
And and right now it seems that most people are most vocal about what you're saying.
But here's the the other side of the coin.
And that is that we can wish all day that Doug Hoffman were the Republican nominee, but he's not.
His likelihood of winning is slim at best, and isn't Didi, who's gonna vote against Cap and Trade, and who's endorsed by the NRA, but maybe otherwise thoroughly unsatisfying as a conservative, better than Bill Owens, who is a down-the-line Democrat.
Do you want to give Nancy Pelosi another Democrat?
The story that you took uh just said about Bob Kennedy and uh that that would be great if it uh would happen again, because uh maybe we lose a little bit again, but we can come back and we can be stronger.
Uh we need somebody in the Republican Party that's gonna say, hey, you know what?
We need to stay strong.
We need to stay conservative.
We need to preach our truth.
And the truth is the conservatives work.
It conservatives.
As Rush has said countless times, as he has said countless times, when Republican candidates are reliably, unapologetically and strongly conservative, the party succeeds.
Terry, thank you.
And the reason I I'm going to put I'm maybe put in a number of people through that exercise, and here's the data coming back.
That as much as there is urgency to winning back house uh seats in the House, as much as there is urgency to winning back seats in the Senate, there is a portion of conserv of Republican America and a big portion of conservative America that will even live with this a little longer.
They will um they will even and I don't know if this transmits on to the presidential race.
I don't even want to get there yet.
We got a million miles to go before 2012.
But in 2010, if Nancy Pelosi keeps that majority, which he's probably going to do even under the best of Republican scenarios, realistic scenarios, if the message can be delivered in 2010 that all over the place, uh that ideologically all over the place Republicans are not going to be met with favor by conservatives in the district, however many there are, and by a Republican Party desperately seeking to rediscover its rudder.
If the painful message is that Dee Dee has to lose, and that helps Bill Owens win, so be it, is the message I'm getting from a ton of people.
So as we work our way through this Monday Rush Limbaugh show, we're evaluating uh the the price of that, because it will come at a price.
Because this is, you know, this is just one special election here in New York 23.
You think this isn't going to play out over a ton of other uh of other districts?
And and the f the so many people are hanging on the fate of Doug Hoffman.
If if this if if I don't want to say fails, Doug Hoffman can lose this race and still help prove a huge point.
In fact, if Bill Owens wins, the Hoffman candidacy will have absolutely proven a point.
Uh it's called don't give us any more Dee Dee Scozafavas.
But if he actually wins, bar the door.
These Tea Party passions, these town hall passions are going to be lit even hotter than they were in these last few months, because finally the definition between Republican and Conservative will be clear, and one of two things will happen.
Either the Republican Party will pay a price and will actually see the Conservative Party sprout legs, or the Republican Party power brokers will realize that they'd better look and sound and act more conservative than they currently do and start backing more people like Doug Hoffman and fewer people like Dee Dee.
There is an enormous lesson for countless people that lies ahead in this November 3rd special election in this little district in the uppermost corner of New York State.
Let's talk about it some more and various other things still await.
It is the Rush Limbaugh Show for Monday.
I'm Mark Davis, 1-800-282-2882, and we'll continue in just a moment.
It is the Monday Rush Limbaugh Show.
I'm Mark Davis, filling in from Proud Affiliate WBAP in Dallas Ford Worth.
But you know what?
While we're uh tossing out props for various Rush Limbaugh show affiliates, always a pleasure to say hi to the good folks at WREC in Memphis, spoke to them on the morning show today, used to work there, fun times.
And I was just this past week uh enjoying the hospitality of uh Lori Cantio and the good people of the Big 77 WABC in New York.
Uh I if I seem oddly, strangely familiar, it's because I was on the Hannity panel on Wednesday night, uh, in between uh Deirdre Imus observations about H1N1.
It was a joy to meet her and Jesse Lee Peterson from Bond.
Just a it was great to be on the on the Hannity panel and and great to be uh be up there in New York.
But it gave me a chance to be in the state and talk to some people about about New York 23.
And that's uh what we're doing largely with you here as well.
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Um let's do calls between now and top of the hour, and then we come out of the uh beginning of the next hour.
The the the the Republican power structure, the National Republican Congressional Committee, lots of Republican congressmen, uh Newt, others uh are saying essentially hold your nose and go with Dee Dee, and are are doing two things.
They're trying to bolster Dedee's conservative credentials.
I have some of the material with which they seek to do that, and we'll see if if you're buying it or not.
And uh they also have uh some uh uh uh little bit uh little bit of criticism of uh Mr. Hoffman.
So we'll see uh if you think that's fair or unfair.
Right now, though, to the phones once again, and we're in Fort Myers, Florida.
Mike, you're on the Rush Limbaugh Show.
Mark Davis, how are you?
Hi, Mark Davis.
It's great to talk to you.
I I do love it when you fill in for Rush.
Um the the point I want to make is that if we try and win this battle this way, it's gonna take another step toward losing the war that we seem to have been losing slowly but surely for decades.
I want Democrats to wear their policy.
I want them to own it.
I don't want the general public to see Republicans voting eighty percent of the time with Democrats and thinking that's what we're about.
So I don't think that having a a person with an R over his name that's gonna vote against one or two things in the House is going to be a victory.
I mean, Newt Gingrich and those that are backing this guy may view it as such, but whenever the general public that that doesn't spend a lot of time paying attention to political details that are just trying to work and earn a living for their family, when they catch the the general the the general uh situation and uh uh what they get off the news, all they're gonna get is, well, you know, Republicans, Democrats, what's the difference?
Are they really?
I mean, to a degree they will, and I completely hear what you're saying.
Um is it realistic, though, for us to uh it's uh maybe in New York 23.
We may be about to learn that an actual conservative can win in New York 23.
There are some districts where uh someone is conservative as Mr. Hoffman cannot win.
And but but uh somebody who's a little more centrist can, if if that's become a bad word.
And do you do you do we blow that away?
Do we try to establish a uh a standard that says it's gotta be a certain kind of Republican, a ninety to one hundred percent conservative Republican, no matter what, and if somebody is sixty percent Republican or 30 or 40, whatever, that we're gonna say no, even if it means helping elect a Democrat.
Is that just what we're saying?
Let me make my point by by asking you this.
Do you think the comp the country as as a matter of policy from the federal government has been moving to the left or to the right over the past, say, 30 years?
Woof.
Well, tricky answer.
It's hard to say we were moving to the left toward the Reagan era, isn't it?
Which is encompassed in the last three years.
Okay, I'm sorry.
Well, that was that was right before I started voting.
I'm actually only thirty five.
No, I'm just but you know, you let let you make your point, but make it right now.
We certainly appear to be lurching leftward right now, so we keep moving slowly.
We take two steps backward and then one step forward when we put in a liberal Republican, and then it just keeps sliding further and further down.
I think it's time that we stop trying to win these small little battles that in in the long term, I think hurt us more than anything by putting Republicans that don't represent what we're about in office.
I don't think it helps us.
Okay.
Mike, thank you.
Appreciate the call from Fort Myers.
And and again, we're we're about to find out what New York 23 is.
Uh they had a uh uh a moderate to liberal Republican as the incumbent.
He left to become Secretary of the Army.
I mean, that's proof positive of how fairly unconservative he is.
Got tapped to be in the uh uh an Obama Army secretary.
Um 52 percent for Obama, but if that if they could replay that election, is there some buyer's remorse up there in New York 23, where maybe it wouldn't go that way?
And and can this conservative challenger actually win?
If he c you know what's funny?
Got a break here real quick, and in the last segment we'll address this a little and and then in the in the two hours to follow.
Uh a ton of this depends on the lessons we learned from what the actual voter turnout is on what actually really happens to Didi, what happens uh to Ms. Scozafava, what happens uh to Bill Owens, because then we'll really have something to chew on, because it'll be a reflection of what the voters actually did.
Right now we're sort of talking about what we want those voters to do.
But but I'm good with that.
1800-282-2882, Mark Davis in for Rush.
Be right back.
Just a few precious seconds remaining in this first hour of the Monday Rush Limbaugh Show.
I'm Mark Davis filling in, as I will do for the two subsequent hours.
Rush is back tomorrow.
All right, a lot of Dee Dee's uh problems arise from some some oddities of New York State politics.
There's a thing in the Empire State called the Working Families Party.
There have been some cross endorsements.
The whole that whole Working Families Party just has a kind of a liberal sound to it, doesn't it?
Well, yes, it does.
And that means you have Republicans running, sort of cross referenced uh with some Republicans.
Uh Didi seeks to distance at the moment.
We'll see if she successfully does in some materials from the NRCC.
I'm Mark Davis filling in for us.
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