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Aug. 18, 2009 - Rush Limbaugh Program
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August 18, 2009, Tuesday, Hour #1
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Welcome to today's edition of the Rush 24-7 podcast.
Yes, indeed, America's anchor man is away today, and this is your undocumented anchor man, Mark Stein sitting in.
No supporting paperwork whatsoever.
Don't worry, uh Rush will be uh back tomorrow.
Uh but for the next three hours, uh I'm here behind I was gonna say behind the golden EIB microphone.
Well, what happened to it?
Uh he he's taken he's taken the gold he's taken the golden E Rush is the golden EIB microphone with him in Los Angeles.
So I've got this like washed out grey thing.
Uh that that doesn't bode well for the level of guest hosting performance, does it?
That's right.
Anyway, this is Mark Stein, not behind the golden EIB microphone, but behind the washed-out gray guest host microphone.
Uh great honor for me, uh notwithstanding the uh collapse of the microphone budget.
I got a place in uh the foreign exchange student wing of the Limbaugh Institute of Advanced Conservative Studies, terrific exchange program.
Guys like me get to come and study at the Limbaugh Institute, and in return, Barack Obama gets to intern at the Royal Scottish Institute of National Health Resource Efficiency Management and Death Panels.
Uh Rush is in uh Los Angeles uh with the microphone, uh recording his appearance on The Family Guy today.
Did I hear that right yesterday?
That he's gonna sing on the on the show.
He's gonna sing.
Do we do we know the song or is that a closely guarded secret?
He won't Rush won't be able to hear the song, but he's gonna sing anyway.
Yeah, there's not there's not a lot of point in, you know, give me an A or whatever, is there?
It's like, okay, so that's something to look that's something to look forward to.
That's something to look forward to.
Rush will be sing he's not doing dancing with the stars, is he?
No, no, that's uh that's Tom Delay.
Tom Delay's doing dancing with the stars.
The hammer, the hammer hits the dance floor.
He's uh he's up against Donnie Osmond, I think, on this uh on this season.
So I don't know.
Uh Ham.
Yeah, do the uh it's not it's that do the hammer is a sixties dance craze, isn't it?
Wasn't that?
Uh uh but I'm nervous about that.
I'm nervous about Tom DeLay going on Dancing with the Stars.
You know, people um say, oh, relax.
He wouldn't have agreed to it uh if he didn't know what he was doing.
You you know, for all you for all you know he was probably the Texas State Mambo champion of 1968.
So just relax, don't worry about it.
But I I think Tom DeLay on Dancing with the Stars could easily set conservatism back a good twenty years.
I'm I'm uh I'm worried about it.
Uh yes.
That's great.
You can't cut HR thinks unless he cuts the budget.
You can't cut the budget on dancing with the stars.
Have you seen have you seen the dresses the girls wear?
It's like one wispy little red chiffon thing just s snaking ro weaving round the the vital areas, and that's it.
So if you cut the costume budget 80%, the wisp of chiffon wouldn't cover what it what it needs to uh you can't you can't be a fiscal conservative on dancing with.
I think the last conservative on Dancing with the Stars was um Tucker Carlson, uh if you remember, the uh bow tied uh boyish charmer who uh was on uh CNN's Crossfire and then I think CNN C N B C M S N B C or whatever it was.
And um he got eliminated in round one.
And uh Tucker is one of those famously moderate conservatives, you know, he's not one of the mean-spirited types like us.
And um uh he was for the Iraq war, and then he turned against it and you know, a bit wobbly, a bit wobbly on these things.
And he gave a very moderate tentative uh not quite sure he believed in it himself kind of performance on Dancing with the Stars.
He was he he didn't dip.
He didn't not only did he not dip, he didn't he didn't stand for the first half of the routine, he was sitting on this uh wooden chair, uh like you find in the basement of a CIA safe house before you're about to be interrogated.
Um and uh and the music starts, the big cha-cha-cha music, and the gal comes out in the slinky little backless, frontless, legless thing we're talking about with the costume budget, uh, and uh and starts meandering all over the place, and she's dancing up a storm, and uh and the Latin rhythms are pulsating all over.
And Tucker Carlson is still just sitting there on the wooden chair.
And and you think what is there some kind of confusion in the booking?
He got the format wrong, he thinks it's lap dancing with the stars or something.
What is this?
Uh which by the way is a hell of a concept.
That'll that'll be on some channel sooner or later.
Uh and then eventually after the gal a bit like prancing around for three minutes, he stands up and he takes a couple of very tentative steps forward.
Uh And then the music ends and he gets eliminated.
And one of the judges says, You were doing great until you stood up.
And folks, Tucker Carlson's dance routine is a metaphor for moderate conservatism.
Faint-hearted, tentative, too cool to throw yourself into it as if you believe it.
And that judge who said I liked it until you stood up represents mainstream media approval of moderate conservatives too.
They like you because you won't stand up.
You won't stand up for anything.
So I hope Tom DeLay bears that in mind.
I'm just offering a bit of advice here.
It's not often you get a big shot conservative on Dancing with the Stars.
So I hope Tom DeLay bears that in mind.
You know what I like to see, by the way?
You'd get half a dozen celebrities.
You know, you get, I don't know, somebody from the Love Boat, the bass player from Hooty and the Blowfish, uh, the Olympic bronze medalist from the uh 1978 Bahamian two-man loosh team, you know, the usual, the usual crowd.
And they do the cha-cha-cha and the foxtrot and the merange, and at the end, Kathleen Sabalius, uh Rahm Emanuel's brother, and the vice president of Acorn would vote on which one of them would get the hip replacement.
I think that would be a great show.
De uh Death Panel with the Stars.
It'll it'll be coming to a network uh near you soon.
Anyway, we certainly hope Tom DeLay has uh has better luck uh than Tucker Carlson did on that show.
Actually, speaking of uh of Tucker, I was uh I was sorry to see that his uh his old pal from the CNN Crossfire Days, uh Bob Novak died earlier today.
Bob Novak was uh was my uh colleague at the Chicago Sun Times for um for many years.
Uh and I think actually the face for a long time on on uh uh American TV, actually the face of conservatism.
He was the only he was the only conservative who got on there for a long time, the only one who actually uh wasn't uh ashamed about being mean-spirited and immoderate about it.
He he was particularly strong on fiscal issues.
He he tended to uh wander off uh the reservation a bit on certain foreign policy issues.
Uh but on on fiscal conservatism, uh he was right and he defended the uh cause of small government uh not confiscating the fruits uh of the citizens' labors uh v very vigorously, decade in, uh decade out.
Uh uh he was known as the Prince of Darkness.
Um and I must say, I think this was at CPAC um a year or two back, a young lady, uh he and I happened to be sort of signing books at adjoining tables, and a young lady uh came up, a very attractive young lady came up and asked if she could have her photograph taken with me.
And I always like to give uh good value when I'm asked uh to uh to pose with young ladies.
So I was kind of getting close, I put my arm around them.
I I I'm, you know, I'm like Tucker Carlson should have been on Dancing with the Stars.
I'm like uh, you know, we're intimately locked to our bodies.
And she got a really great photograph, me beaming away and uh she then went to uh asked Bob uh if she could have a photograph taken with Bob.
And he put on a classic Prince of Darkness expression.
He he stood there scowling uh into her cleavage as if he had not the slightest desire to be there.
And she wa she again was absolutely delighted in a in a com an entirely different way, uh, because she'd got the uh one of the all-time great Bob Novak as the Prince of Darkness uh photographs.
Uh he wa he was a uh he was a great uh defender uh for a lot of important things uh in this country, uh particularly uh on uh the uh responsibility of government to stick to its core uh activities, uh not to try and do everything and not to try and spend everything.
And and at a time when we're running up these multi-trillion dollar deficits, we could certainly use a guy like Bob Novak.
And uh I'm sorry that we won't have his uh much needed voice uh in the months ahead.
Uh Bob Novak died uh earlier today.
Uh and those were the glory days, by the way, uh, when Bob was uh on crossfire, and when they tried to monkey with the format, you remember towards the end they just wandered off the charts, they changed this, they changed that, and it never were.
Bob, the classic uh crossfire format had Bob Novak just being terrific uh and mean spirited and Lethal uh on the right side and uh and we shall and we shall miss him for that.
Uh Robert Cutner, big liberal guy in the Washington Post, wants to know where are the liberal protesters.
Uh because he's tired from seeing uh seeing all these right-wing mobs everywhere.
Uh and he wants to know where are the liberal protesters.
Uh the uh aside from the acorn operatives and the union heavies there in in short supply.
And the short answer to that, I think, is that it's the genius of Obama to have alienated the geezers.
Uh he'd he'd bought up all the AstroTaff.
Uh he'd got the AARP on board with his policies, and now apparently I see CBS is reporting that sixty thousand members of the AARP have resigned their membership.
Uh, I would imagine if I was the AARP, I would be a bit concerned at having got on board too early with this disastrous Obama health care plan that's going to impact principally uh America's seniors.
Uh the AARP is supposed to represent America's seniors, and this plan is not in their interests.
And sixty thousand members have figured that out and resigned.
I don't know whether it means the end of the ARRP.
I wouldn't have thought so.
I would have thought uh Obama, given their friendliness to his policies, would certainly be prepared to to uh bail them out as he's bailed out so many institutions.
Uh but it is it is the oldsters who are uh who are resigning their AARP membership and going to these town halls hopping mad.
I mean, these are people, a lot of them uh who voted for Obama, and they didn't realize uh that he wanted them to spend their last year's uh howling in pain uh waiting for a uh a knee replacement that's never that's never gonna come.
Uh I s I switched on the TV yesterday and they were showing uh some footage of one of these town halls, and folks were so steamed I figured it must be some real hardcore conservative neighborhood in Texas or Mississippi.
It turned out to be Vermont.
In Vermont, uh the oldsters had turned out uh and uh uh and were telling people that they don't want uh uh Obamacare.
Uh so uh the idea that there were going to be masses of liberal protesters uh showing up uh to to reverse uh what is happening at these town halls is is not going to happen.
The young people aren't gonna uh show up for it, and the old people, it's the peculiar genius of Obama and the Democrats uh to have turned one of their core constituencies, these elderly voters, against them uh by threatening their medical care.
We'll talk about that and lots more straight ahead.
Mark Stein sitting in for rush on the Rush Limbaugh Show.
1-800-282-2882.
Mark Stein in for Rush on the EIB network.
Rush is out in Los Angeles doing the family guy, but he will be uh back tomorrow.
They're starting to turn on Obama.
This is uh a headline from Politico.
Does Obama have the guts?
This is this is this is terrific stuff.
He's too wimpy.
Uh was Hillary right about him that he was he could he's a pretty boy who could give a good speech, but he doesn't when it when it's needed, he lacks the intestinal fortitude to to see it through.
Uh by the way, uh I don't know whether Obama does have the guts or not, but I uh I believe under uh government health care you'll have a three-year wait for guts.
So if he doesn't have them, he's not gonna be getting them uh any time uh anytime soon.
He was supposed to be, he wasn't supposed to I didn't know it was about guts, he was supposed to be uh the hip replacement.
He was the hip replacement for all these square old white guys that we'd had for years, uh, and that was all he needed.
And now they're saying he doesn't have the guts, he doesn't have the guts uh to get this done.
I wanted to talk about something Rush mentioned yesterday, because it's a good point, you know.
They can do they can demonize uh individuals.
They can do it to Joe the Plumber, they can do it to Sarah Palin.
Uh they have a much tougher time uh making the case that large numbers, thousands and thousands of ordinary people, citizens going to these town hall meetings uh are an out-of-control, rampaging mob.
And actually, when you see it, uh when you see what they mean by an out-of-control rampaging mob, uh, it usually involves uh somebody asking a tough question of Arlen Spector or when uh one of these other lifetime legislators, the uh emirs of incumbestan, as uh as I like to call them.
These these lifetime legislators, and Arlen Spector can't come up with an answer.
He just stands there, and then he says afterwards on TV, when he's back in his safe environment, uh, that they're not representative of real America.
But apparently asking a tough question means you're a rampaging mob now.
Uh Rush mentioned yesterday that when we had real rampaging mobs, uh, remember these anti-globalization uh meetings, uh uh uh summits, the uh you used to have a globalization summit, there were WTO or the IMF would be meeting somewhere.
Uh and these anti-globalization mobs would t uh turn up and trash the town.
Uh happened in Seattle, happened in Washington, happened in Quebec City, happened in Gothenburg, Sweden, happened in uh London.
Uh, and nobody minded.
They they thought that was just youthful idealism.
Um there was this uh French farmer who used to be in all these riots, a guy called uh uh uh Beauvay, uh who who you who took it out on McDonald's because he was upset about some new French tax on cheese.
Um, I don't claim to be an expert on the uh ins and outs of uh Paris's cheese taxation policy, uh disample de fromage.
Um but I don't see why it required smashing up uh McDonald's, or I don't see why it requires tossing bricks through McDonald's windows.
And and and this French farmer said, oh, attacking McDonald's is not violence, the free market is violence.
Uh and and all the progressive opinion went along with that.
They said, Oh, we don't mind you smashing the streets.
You've got to understand that the people are are very motivated, they're very idealistic, they're very concerned.
Uh Tim Robbins and Susan uh Sarandon and Ben of uh Ben and Jerry's, the uh the great hippie dippy Vermont ice cream makers.
Uh and uh Anita Roddick of the Body Shop, uh, you know, where you buy all those like uh bath salts and cleansing lotions of the things they have at the airport all the time.
Uh they were all in favor of this direct action to the point that they subsidized it.
They bankrolled this thing called the Ruckus Society that used to train people in direct action uh at a camp in California.
It would say uh it would actually uh train them for what they had to do when you got to the anti-globalization summits and you wanted to uh smash the place up.
Um and what was particularly impressive about this, Anita Roddick, who owned the body shop, that was on the list of targets of the anti-globalization guys because of something they used in in their uh in in in their cosmetics.
So she was actually paying a mob to throw bricks through our own windows, and that's perfectly fine with the left.
They don't mind about any of that.
Uh the the Canadian government at the summit of the Americas in Quebec City in 2001, I was there, George W. Bush was there, all the uh leaders from uh North America, Central America, South America there.
I remember sitting there uh as a uh co a brick uh large slab of concrete came whistling past my ear and the uh and the Surret de Quebec, the local police turned on the water cannon, it was just like this little sort of squirt like that urinating boy in the statue they got in Belgium.
Uh because they'd been told not to be too mean to the protesters, even when they were like throwing huge lumps of concrete at you that would kill you.
In fact, the Canadian government gave $300,000 of taxpayers' money to subsidize uh protesters to go to Quebec City and trash the city.
And so when you had these things in Seattle and Washington, London, uh Gothenburg, Rome, nobody said then, oh, out of control, rampaging mob.
But you get a nice, sweet little old lady uh of 63 who's concerned about Obama's death panels, and she goes along uh to ask Ireland Spectre a question and suddenly, oh no, that's un-American, according to Nancy Pelosi.
They're evil mongers, according to Harry Reid.
Harry Reid uh the the same uh lefties uh who said that uh Ronald Reagan calling uh the Soviet Union an evil empire, and who bemoaned the uh simplistic cowboy moronic uh analysis of uh President Bush when he referred to the axis of evil,
these people all say, Oh, uh but it's these people apparently entirely relaxed uh about Harry Reed demonizing thousands and thousands, tens of thousands, maybe hundreds of thousands by now, uh, of concerned American citizens exercising their right uh to question their representatives uh as evil mongers.
Uh and the Democratic Party will not be able to pull this off.
You can do it to a Joe the Plumber, you can do it to a Sarah Palin, but you cannot demonize hundreds of thousands of citizens uh and make them into something they're not.
And by the way, I think that's that's the lesson they're getting here.
Someone like Arlene Specter, who uh uh essentially believes in nothing but his own indispensability.
Uh Arlen Specter, who was a Republican of convenience for many years, and now he's a Democrat of convenience, because basically he represents the party of Arlen Specter.
The one thing he is sure of is that Arlen Specter is indispensable to the health of this republic.
And what these people going along to these town hall meetings are reminding uh Senator Spector and others of is that you are not our rulers.
You are our representatives.
Uh this is a republic of citizen legislators.
Uh you are one of us who has been elected to represent us.
And the sight uh of uh lifetime senators and lifetime congressmen recoiling in horror from the impertinence of citizens uh who who have the temerity to question them, uh this does not speak well for the for the legislative class.
Harry Reed cannot make this stick.
More straight ahead on EIB.
Yes, Rush back tomorrow.
He's in uh California all week.
Uh he's filming the well, I don't uh he can't be filming it because it's like animated, isn't it?
Yeah, he's voicing.
He's voicing the animation, he's voicing the soundtrack for his animated appearance on the right.
Okay.
Yeah, okay, I get I get how it works.
He says he's doing the family.
It's all very it's more con it's more complicated than this, isn't it?
Uh he's doing the family guy, and he will be he will be back uh tomorrow.
Now, the the important thing to remember about uh what's happening here in the health care debate is that uh don't be fooled by all this stuff that says, oh Obama's on the ropes, he's uh he's he's conceding on the death panels, uh he's conceding on the public option, uh he's going for this new thing, this co-op thing.
Uh these details don't really matter in in the bigger scheme of things.
What he has to do is get something past, anything passed this fall, uh that has the seeds of a public option within it, uh that provides for the expansion uh of government direction of health care.
Uh because if he gets that passed, if he gets across the river, he can burn the bridge uh and we will never be able to go back.
Uh if he gets something passed, it'll be reformed, it can be reformed, it will be endlessly reformed again and again and again.
Uh anybody who's lived in countries with socialized health care knows in fact that that becomes the dominant political issue in in um up in Canada, uh they've had uh uh essentially national government health care for forty years, a government monopoly of health care, and the single biggest issue in every election is always the health system, the waiting times, and they're always appointing what they call uh Royal Commissions uh up there to hold investigations into it and to come up with proposals to reform it.
And that's what will happen here.
Something will be passed, it will be reformed endlessly, it will metastasize like your untreated cancer that will be working its way through your body while you're waiting to see a specialist.
Uh the health uh the the whatever health bill he passes will metastasize and spread and grow and enlarge uh once the seeds of further government annexation of health care are planted.
And that's why this is really dangerous.
This is a really dangerous moment uh in American history.
Uh, because you cross you cross this bridge and it's all but impossible to go back.
It cha it fundamentally changes the relationship uh between the citizen uh and the state.
Uh and you're not really a citizen anymore.
I was listening to Rush yesterday, and he had this uh fellow call up who was m hopping mad that the death panels thing had been cut from the uh from uh you know the latest version of one of these bills, because he liked the death panels.
On the grounds that, as he put it, um uh Medicare won't cover you having uh so-called end-of-life counseling.
Uh and uh a doctor called up to disagree with him on that point and said it didn't matter.
But what uh what what struck me about the thing is, well, you know, if you want to have end of life counseling, why not book an appointment?
What's it gonna cost you?
A hundred bucks, two hundred bucks, it's your life.
It's your life.
What's wrong with you that you're not prepared to spend a hundred dollars to talk with some guy in a room uh about uh the end of your life for a hundred bucks for two hundred bucks?
How how have we so corroded uh the nature of self reliance uh that we're not even prepared to spend a modest three figure sum getting advice that could change our life.
Or we'll spend uh a three-figure sum uh, you know, to get to on a uh four a four uh a significant three-figure sum on on a cable package uh to get uh tons of TV networks will never ever watch.
We'll we'll spend a small three-figure sum to get the DVD box set of dancing with the stars so we can relive Tucker Carlson's uh glorious sit down on the chair on the CIA safe house chair while the girl in the chiffon wiggles around him.
Uh we we'll we'll spend a three-figure sum on that.
It's worth it's worth spending three-figure sum on the DVD box set of dancing with the stars, but not but not on on something that could change your life.
Uh and that's that's that's the critical thing.
Once you've accepted the idea, once you've accepted the idea that you're that you're not even prepared to dip into your pocket to spend a hundred or two hundred dollars for something that could save your life, change your life, dramatically transform your life, uh then you might as well have government health care, because you're no longer a self-reliant citizen anymore.
And that is ultimately uh what is at stake with where we're going on health care.
And that's why uh what matters for Obama in health care is he knows if he can if he can pass enough of a bill that the government can annex just enough of the health care system uh to put you in a system uh to put you essentially in a situation where uh private health care, private options are shrinking and government's control of the industry uh is growing, then it is the fastest route.
It's the express train uh to a permanent left of center political culture.
In other words, if you're like Obama and you've uh read up all the stuff and you've been a community organizer, you've read Saul Lolinsky, you've been marinated in the left-wing politics of uh of Chicago University life, all your in adult life.
Uh and what you're trying to create uh is a society in which government is intricately involved in every aspect of people's lives.
The fastest way to that uh is to is to governmentalize health care.
That's the express route.
That's the express route to a permanent left of center uh political culture.
Uh and that is what is at stake uh for Americans here.
Um, you know, uh i we we immigrants can sometimes uh sound a bit hysterical about it because we've we've we've we come from places that have tried this, and we know where it leads.
Uh and it is it is essentially an acceptance of a very uh philosophically, I think what's uh something that's very problematic for any real conservative, uh that you we you you talk about uh a pr a medical problem you have, and the government says, uh no, you we agree you've got the problem, the doctor agrees you've got the problem, the doctor would be willing to perform this operation, but we, the government, uh will not permit you to have that operation.
Uh that's what happens under under socialized health care systems.
Up in British Columbia, uh the Fraser Health Authority has just asked, it's got a massive budget for shortfall, so it's just introduced massive cuts to senior services, including a fifteen percent cut in elective surgeries.
Now what does that mean?
Elective surgeries?
The phrase elective surgeries no longer has any meaning in socialized systems.
What it means in British Columbia is that you can elect to have the procedure, but they won't elect to give it to you.
Uh that's what it that's what it comes down to.
So you you can say uh you can want the hip replacement, the doctor can say you need the hip replacement, but the government says no, we only give so many hip replacements a year and you don't get yours.
You've got to wait.
We're cutting fifteen percent of elective sir surgeries this year, so you can't get yours.
And and and that's not uh i an issue about medical efficiency or controlling costs.
What that is is you accepting the state's sovereignty over your hip, uh over your kidneys, over your prostate, over whatever it is.
And free people should not do that.
If you want to if you w want to have the hip replacement, uh that's between you and the doctor.
The government should have no uh say and certainly no veto uh on that on that procedure.
And yet that is exactly what happens uh in government health systems around the world.
You listen to the words they use.
Uh I quoted uh uh uh over at National Review the words of uh I think it was the n the the this Orwellian acronym they have here.
They don't call it a death panel in Britain.
They call it NICE.
NICE, which stands for the National Institute of Clinical Excellency.
So it's a nice death panel.
And they issue rulings.
They issue rulings on who can get they say the obese, you know the obese can't have the knee replacements uh uh and uh smokers uh can't have heart disease treatment and that's the word to bear in mind rulings panels of bureaucrats issue rulings just like judges do just like judges do.
That's it.
You can't appeal it.
You can't go anywhere with it.
You've got y unless you want to uh get on a plane, fly up the country and have it done in some in one of the dwindling number of jurisdictions uh that still recognizes that you own your body uh and you have the right to decide what it is you you're gonna do with it.
And it's the acceptance of the state sovereignty over your hip and your prostate and your bladder and everything else that's likely to go wrong uh is what's at issue here.
Uh and that's why this thing can't be compromised.
It has to be uh it has to be nuked uh as Sarah Palin did when she used this phrase death panels uh it has to be nuked and killed and nothing passed because if he gets anything passed he can expand it from there.
Mark Stein in for rush on the Rush Limbaugh show 1 800 282882 will take your polls straight ahead.
Mark Stein in for us on the EIB network talking about health care.
Don't rest up for a moment.
It's not about this or that clause or this or that subsection uh what uh what's going to happen uh is that something will be passed in embryo uh that will contain uh the seeds for the massive expansion of government health care.
It's effectively the nationalization of your your body.
I had a a letter from a uh reader over in uh Scotland uh uh who's who wants to get a back x-ray but he can't because uh he no longer has sovereignty over his back.
Uh there is in essence a government line item uh budget for backs for for the entirety of Scottish backs uh and the the line item budget that uh is allocated to backs in general will not pay for x-rays.
So the needs of his particular back count for nothing.
That's it.
That's done.
It's a government line budget item a line uh budget uh line item in the budget and it's uh it's nothing to do with the needs of his particular back.
It's the nationalization of your body in effect.
Let's go to Mark who is in on Alaska, Wisconsin.
Mark you're on the Rush Limbaugh Show.
Thank you, Mark.
It's a pleasure to talk to you sir.
It's a pleasure to talk to you too.
We uh we we usually have we've got you you're one of the few remaining Marks in the country who's not a certified Rush Limbaugh guest uh host because we have Mark Belling, Mark Davis, me.
So if you do well we'll slot you in for Thursday.
So go ahead.
What's what's your question?
Well uh not so much of a question really as more of a uh a little insider information I wanted to pass on.
I am a reluctant member of the SEIU.
Oh that's the now that's the uh service employees international union is it is the wonderful people who were working in coordination with Acorn and all of the other uh backing and motivations uh behind the election of the current uh pretender to the throne well you did a you did a great uh job getting him uh over the finish line and into the office so I I did not which is why I am so popular in my union.
All right you're the token non-Obama man in the SEIU.
Okay.
Uh that must be the uh that must be the uh loneliest subsection of that union I would have thought lonely but you know what like the like the minute men of uh the founding of our nation you know we're manning the walls and and we're fighting the good fight so okay well you you hang in there.
Now you you guys have been at some of these town hall meetings uh haven't you?
You uh there was a big SEIU presence at the one in I think it was uh uh St. Louis uh a week or two back.
Yeah unfortunately those that showed up I I I hate to say it, but there are many who have just given over their free thinking and and their independence to this union and and that couldn't be uh a bigger mistake in my opinion.
Uh I know one of the things that prompted me to call this morning uh was I received a telephone call right away this morning from some uh comrade working in a telephone bank somewhere Um who called me up and and wanted to tell me of my responsibility to be informed about health care reform and how I needed to make my voice heard, and my response to her was that I have made my voice heard.
I'm uh not in favor of health care reform in its current form or any form proposed by Mr. Obama, and that uh I planned on fighting it tooth and nail.
To which she hung up on me.
Now, these uh when yeah, I assume all your fellow union members are getting these calls, uh a lot of them responding to it and turning and starting to turn up at town halls, as Robert Cuttner said.
Uh uh are you the liberal protesters that he he wants to see out there at the town halls?
Well, I'm sure they are.
I mean, there's but I c I can tell you right now now the area that I work in, uh the actual institution that I work in, more of the union members there are not pro-Obama.
They are not in favor of of a lot of the things that have been going on in health care reform and the bailouts and everything else.
And they're not in favor of the union.
Uh if it really would have come down to it uh this last time before contract negotiations.
I think there is a very strong possibility that if we would have had a unifying force, the SEIU would not have been in place where they are now.
Right.
Uh because uh a lot of people are just sick of this.
I myself, during the last election, had uh McCain signs out in front of my house.
Uh don't tread on me flag.
I you know, the whole nine yards.
I am so against everything these people stand for that there was no way it was conceivable that I would ever vote that way.
And yet my union sent me sometimes five and six mailings about what was wrong with John McCain, what was wrong with Sarah Feeling, what was right with Obama.
Well, you know what you well, you know what you need to do, Ma?
We need to get you out there at some of these town halls in an SAIU meeting uh uh uh in an SEIU uh one of the T-shirts, one of the jackets, uh, as uh as a union man who opposes Obamacare.
We've seen seniors uh opposing Obamacare.
It would be great to have SEIU guys opposing Obamacare out there at the town hall.
So get get along there.
Next time you get a call say, Oh, sure, where is the next town hall?
I'll be there.
Uh and you can stand up in the union jacket and talk down Obamacare uh too.
Because that's uh that's what we need.
This th there aren't going to be large numbers of liberal protesters going out there, by the way.
There were three types of people who voted for Obama.
Uh there were the people who just thought it would be cool after all this time, after uh all these forty-three white-bred uh waspy presidents uh to have a nice uh to to have something representing the diversity of this great nation uh and have a black president.
There was a segment of people who'd voted for him just on those grounds.
Then there were the suckers who who kidded themselves, who invented an Obama who didn't exist, who was the so-called moderate, pragmatic, uh fiscally responsive post-partisan guy, uh that David Brooks and Christopher Buckley uh and other commentators who should have known better essentially concocted out of thin air.
He doesn't exist.
And then there were the people who voted uh for Obama, uh uh explicitly because he was a left-wing domestically transformative uh president.
And they're the least insane of all those three parties, all those three groups, because uh they voted for what he's now been trying to to give them.
And there aren't enough of them.
The great thing about America is there are not enough people who want this country transformed into Scandinavia, uh, who uh to to push this uh to to make this happen.
That's why he's got to push it through fast or it'll never happen.
Uh Mark Stein, Infor Rush on the Rush Limbaugh Show.
Lots more straight ahead.
Mark Stein, in for rush on the EIB network.
Uh I was talking about that question Robert Cutner posed in the uh Washington Post.
Where are the liberal protesters?
Well, uh I'll tell you where they are.
Martha's Vineyard.
Uh God bless her.
Cindy Sheehan is back.
Cindy Sheehan, you know the one who just used to move to Crawford camp out outside the uh president's uh home all summer.
Uh well, this new president, he doesn't he doesn't uh summer in Crawford.
He summers at Martha's Vineyard.
So Cindy Sheehan is camped out in Martha's Vineyard uh protesting him.
And it will be interesting to see whether the media who who covered every aspect of Cindy Sheehan's protest, even if only three people there will actually cover her protesting Obama and his ruthless support for Bush war policies in the Tony Enclave of Martha's Vineyard.
That's what they always call it by the way.
I love that expression.
Tony Enclave.
It's uh it's uh I think uh didn't Tony Enclave do the drive time show on WCBQ.
Tony Enclave Much more music.
Anyway, in the Tony Enclave of uh Martha's Vineyard Cindy Cindy Sheehan has turned up all the media are already there because they vacation all the media big shots vacation uh with Obama at Martha's Vineyard.
So they they don't have to go out of their way to get this story.
They just like to have to as HR said step uh step over her on the way into the restaurant.
Uh so it will be interesting to see whether they actually cover this protest.
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