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Aug. 11, 2009 - Rush Limbaugh Program
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August 11, 2009, Tuesday, Hour #2
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All right, now we have a stage-managed White House town meeting starting right now in Portsmouth, New Hampshire.
President Obama is out now greeting the thundering applause mob that is with very unruly mobs behind Obama's podium there.
They won't stop clapping.
They're distracting Obama from getting the microphone.
He's having to applaud and shake their hands in return.
I just want to make an observation.
Because I know the tactics of Acorn and AFL-CIO and other union people.
If in the next hour or however long this town meeting takes, if somebody breaks up the meeting, interrupts it, wearing a Klan uniform or carrying a swastika sign, it will be an Acorn person or a union person using political jiu-jitsu to try to make it look like opponents of Obama's healthcare plan are these radicals that have been described by the state-controlled media at various events.
I'm not predicting it.
I'm not saying it's going to happen, but if it does, know full well that it is not a genuine opponent of Obama's plan that will do this.
These people are running a political campaign right now.
This is no longer about health care even.
This is about a successful political campaign and Obama succeeding in building a monument to himself.
Great to have you back for the second hour of Broadcast Excellence.
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How many times have you been listening to this program?
You've heard me take a call from somebody who was not a seminar caller, somebody who had their facts wrong.
They disagreed with me.
And I either turned them around or the caller was shown to be uninformed and so forth.
But I spent time with they were wrong about something.
I'm not seminar caller just trying to disrupt and make a point.
The point is, I do a town hall meeting every day on this program.
And people who run businesses have their own versions of town hall meetings every day.
When you have somebody who disagrees with you, who's wrong, and you're able to show them why they're wrong, and you persuade them, then you've had a win-win.
And I've made a living handling tough callers and tough questions.
I don't have to bully anybody to make points.
All you have to do is stand your ground, get the facts out, engage whoever it is who's wrong, who disagrees with you.
And at the end of the process, everybody's all better off.
But that's not what we're seeing in these town hall meetings conducted by members of Congress.
We're seeing videos of failure.
And the failure that we're seeing is the failure to communicate on a national scale by proponents of this plan.
Congressmen, members of the Senate, Kathleen Sebelius, the Congressman down in Georgia, Dingell, Pelosi.
They're not communicating with anybody.
They are screaming at the people they work for.
They would be fired in the private sector behaving the way they're behaving.
And this failure to communicate on the part of the people who are doing this bill, the failure of the people who are trying to sell this to communicate.
Like I said last hour, if I really believed something was the greatest thing I've ever seen and it was going to be very helpful to the country and our population and there was so many lies and disinformation about it, I would be eager to have as many people come in so I could square it away with them, so I could tell them the truth, so I could show them how they're wrong.
I love getting calls and people disagree with me on this program.
It is a delight to open somebody up to the truth, to get the cocoon in which they've sheltered themselves, broken apart so they see things a different way.
That's a, I mean, that's a huge pleasure.
But this failure to communicate on the part of people who are trying to sell this, and I guess that's they're not even trying to sell it.
They're just trying to ram it down our throats.
And the failure to communicate it, the inability to communicate it is quite telling about how deeply flawed the plan in play is.
But at the same time, the people that we have elected to service are showing their true colors.
They are rude.
They are filled with contempt for their constituents, average citizens.
They're condescending.
They are stonewalling the people who pay every bill in this country.
Nothing is accomplished here.
We have the problems heightened and the problems are all focused on, but nothing ever gets solved.
And then when we come along and the lack of a solution to a problem leads to a bigger problem, the people that gave us the problem in the first place sit around like they had nothing to do with it.
They get to act like spectators, have a bunch of blue-ribbon commission investigations to figure out what went wrong.
Hurricane Katrina is a great example of that.
These kinds of meetings, these kinds of meetings, these town hall meetings, these are old hat to people in the private sector.
Whether you run a small business or a large business, whether you head up a group of people in a department, this is the kind of thing that you deal with all the time.
People that don't understand what you're doing and you want them on your team.
You want them to understand.
You take time out.
People in the private sector hold these kind of town meetings all the time.
And in many instances, they are the difference between success and failure.
And we are witnessing failure here.
The failure to be able to communicate from elected officials to constituents about what this plan is and what's in it.
And the reason for the failure to communicate is they don't believe is any good.
And they don't care whether it's any good.
They don't, all they're trying to do is disabuse you of truthful notions that you have about it.
And that's the wrong side to be on, especially with an aroused public.
You don't want to be on the side that's not the truth and trying to ram it down people's throats.
There's an effervescence out there.
It's just visible in these town hall meetings, but there's an effervescence and it's been effervescing.
It's been bubbling up out there for a long time, not just about Obama, but about the irresponsibility and the corruption and the untruthfulness of people in government for a long time.
But now it's manifested itself to a point where freedom and liberty are the intended targets of this particular piece of legislation and others that this administration has in mind.
And in addition to that, people, enough people are sophisticated to know that not only are they the targets, their liberty and freedom are the targets, they're going to have to cough up the money to lose their freedom.
They're going to have to cough up additional tax revenue and the increases and so forth.
Now they're talking about a value-added tax to pay for all this irresponsible deficit spending.
It's unprecedented in the nation's history.
People are not ignorant, dumb, and stupid, and the core values of this country still are not represented by the likes of Obama and the radical Democrats in his party who are putting together this agenda, which is why they have to continue to lie about it, which is why Obama, and I'm sure he will say it today again, if you like your current plan, you get to keep it.
You don't.
It's on page 16 of the House bill, and there's a similar version in the Senate.
It's got pretty much the same restriction.
You're not going to be able to keep the insurance you have.
But here's, we had a great call yesterday.
I want to reiterate this point.
I got a point yesterday.
Okay, look, if the health care system is broken, if it's so out of whack, if we've got to just totally reform it, then how does it fit?
But the president can say, if you like your plan, you keep it.
Those two don't go together.
If we've got to totally revamp and reform this system because it's breaking the bank, it's causing out-of-control deficits, it's going to ruin the future for kids and grandkids, then whatever's working now got to change, right?
So if he says you like your plan, now you get to keep it.
How does that square with this need for massive reform?
Here's John Dingell.
This a series of sound bites, what your representatives think of you.
Last night, on television, MSNBC, Dingell was asked, these town halls remind you of anything like the 60s at all?
Well, the last time I had to confront something like this was when I voted for the Civil Rights Bill and my opponent voted against it.
At that time, we had a lot of Ku Klux Klan folks and white supremacists and folks in white sheets running around causing trouble.
So this reminds him of that.
Last time he's had to confront something like this was when the Klan was running.
Well, let's move forward.
Let me find these sound bites.
Starting at number 10, we'll let you hear a couple of sound bites from this town meeting that Dingell had that reminded him of the Ku Klux Klan.
What we have here, Mike Sola interrupted the Congress and he's pushed his son Scott in a wheelchair to the podium.
I have a question for this young man and his father and I want to talk to you face to face.
Under the Obama health care plan, which you support, this man would be given no care whatsoever because he is a cerebral palsy handicapped person.
We put an amendment in which will address his specific problem as the bill is going to Okay, that's the father of the disabled sons screaming at Dingell.
Now, yesterday on America's Newsroom on Fox News channel, Megan Kelly interviewed Mike Sola, the father, who had that exchange with Dingle.
Megan Kelly said, Nancy Pelosi, Steny Hoyer have come out with editorials today saying in part that these disruptions are occurring because the opponents are afraid, not just of differing views, but because of the facts themselves, drowning out opposing views, are simply un-American.
I was trying to speak as an American with a right of freedom of speech, but I'd like to address something to Ms. Pelosi and Mr. Stoye, whatever his name is Hoyer.
If you call my son un-American, your thugs already know where we live.
We've had a visit from them in the middle of the night.
You know where we live.
I suggest you take that plane that you have and fly to Milan, Michigan and say that directly to my son's face if you've got the guts.
This is a free country.
I am a parent of a handicapped American citizen.
And the reason that I am so concerned is this.
Every American should pull this up on his computer.
It's the New York Post, July 24th edition.
Dangerous doctors.
Every American needs to read this, and you'll understand this groundswell.
Oh, wow, this man got his information here from a newspaper.
I didn't hear him mention my name.
I didn't hear him mention talk radio.
He got his information from a newspaper, the New York Post, Dangerous Doctors.
Megan Kelly says, what do you mean they came to your house in the middle of the night?
After the incident was aired on television, we had a visit that night.
A message was sent to my family.
It has been reported to the Washington County Sheriff, and their deputy has reported it to the state police.
People are harassing you now, Mike?
Yes, they are.
And all I'm going to say to the person who doesn't have the courage to do it in the daytime, I will use lethal force if necessary to protect Scott and my wife.
Your message has been received.
My wife is terrified.
We have not told Scott about it.
But if I ever catch you on my property, I will take the risk of going to prison.
But you will never again threaten my family.
Well, he thinks he's being threatened by supporters of Obama's health care plan after his appearance with Dingell at the town meeting.
And then she finally said, to those who say you were not productive at the meeting, your behavior, how do you respond to that?
They want to foist on us a health care plan that they themselves will not take.
I challenge Barack Obama, the members of Congress, of both parties.
If you believe so much in this plan, then you use it on your family before you put it on our families.
What you are doing is sentencing our families to death.
We lose the right to life.
The old people are discarded.
Those who cannot fend for themselves are discarded.
That's the problem.
The people have seen it.
The people know it.
You can't hide it from the American people anymore.
Don't call my son a thug, and don't call those old ladies thugs and a mob.
We are American citizens who want to be heard before you put us down.
Exactly right.
And this guy is illustrating what I said in the last hour.
They fear for the loss of a lot of things, liberty and freedom.
And to them, this is not an academic debate.
It's about something very, very real, freedom.
Finally, Megan Kelly says, was your goal to show up and make trouble?
Were you affiliated with a specific group?
Were you encouraged by somebody on the internet or TV?
I came there as an American citizen concerned about the plan that they're trying to put on us.
Nothing.
I'm not a Republican.
I'm not a Democrat.
I voted both ways.
Mr. Dingell, if he was under this plan, ma'am, he would not have the two knees nor the hip.
They would tell him, I'm sorry, Mr. Dingell, you're 84.
You're not worth it.
Quick time out.
We'll be back.
Remember now, Dingell said that this whole scenario to him reminded me of the KKK back in the 60s.
This is actually kind of interesting to me.
Now, I haven't been able to follow the whole thing because I, of course, have been doing broadcast excellence while Obama's out there desperately trying to save his flawed plan at Portsmouth, New Hampshire.
But I did have a chance to listen to some of what he's saying in his town hall meeting now.
And there's nothing new in it from what I heard.
It's the same old saying.
He said, well, you will not lose your coverage.
If you like your plan, you will not lose it.
I'm sorry, folks.
You will lose it.
Eventually, you will lose it.
And many of you, almost instantly after this thing becomes law.
The whole point of the public option is to entice private sector businesses and insurance companies to drop insurance covers, because how do you compete with an entity that never has to show a profit?
And the federal government never has to show a profit.
But this is devious because this man cannot dare tell you the truth.
The truth is he wants a single-payer system.
He doesn't want you with private insurance.
We've got him on tape saying it many times since 2003.
He then said there won't be any long lines.
You will not have to wait in any lines.
Now, where the hell did that come from?
But there's nothing inspiring here.
He's saying, well, it's very scary what these people are saying about our plan here, but what's even more scary is not doing anything.
Nobody's talking about not doing anything.
What people are talking about is saving one-sixth of the U.S. private sector economy as a private sector economy.
What people are talking about is saving their liberty.
They're talking about saving their freedom.
There are alternative health care plans out there, many of them.
Republicans in both the House and the Senate have put them forth.
They just don't have the power to get them passed.
Nobody's paying any attention to them.
It's a typical strawdog argument.
I'll tell you, this is the president, he's unraveling here.
He's responding.
They are in defense.
The New York Times said it today, a story by Jim Rutenberg.
They are defensive about this.
They've lost control of the debate, and you can tell it in the little amount of time I had to listen.
But it's clear that the people who oppose the bill, who've read it, have hit some home runs here because I knew for a fact, if you like your coverage, you're going to be able to keep it.
Page 16, you won't.
All right, David, in Bensonville, Illinois, I'm glad you waved your next on the EIB network, sir.
Hello.
Hello, Rush.
I told Snerdly that I was pretty much the loyal opposition for years.
I have listened to you since probably, geez, 1987.
Is that possible?
1988.
1988.
I first heard you when you came on.
And the only thing I was talking to Sternly about, now, if we can have a dialogue here, it would be really nice if you can spend some time because you always think you can change someone's minds around.
I mean, that's part of your deal to inform people.
And you think this whole Obamacare, and I want to actually really, the Obamacare, actually, we need to transcend the whole thing about Obama in general.
Because the Obama cure is a small part of it, as I see it.
And you talk about how people are so fed up with what, you know, I saw the Nazi symbols.
I saw the hammer and sickle before the election even took place.
I saw them at the tea parties.
And you have to say, you talk about a change in America.
America is changing for you, and the GOP is changing.
It's a nightmare for you guys right now.
What happened in the New York 20?
You know, going Murphy.
David, I'm going to have to ask you to hold on to the break.
I'll hold on, Rush, if you will.
You're being contentious with me for no reason.
You're never contentious.
You're being an SOB for no reason.
I'm going to hold you to the break because I said I would.
This town hall meeting the president's conducting is unbelievable.
I don't think he knows what he's talking about.
He just said, he just said that his health care plan, which he has never shown us, we have never seen the Obama health proposal.
His plan is going to get this be pretty much just like what Congress has.
You're going to be able to go to an exchange where there are going to be all these plans, and you'll be able to pick the one you want in addition to a public option, a government plan is going to be thrown in the mix.
And we're doing that to keep the insurance companies honest.
Now, my friends, of all the plans that have been proposed that we have seen, I am here to tell you that no such plan exists.
He has described what members of Congress and the Senate, a lot of federal employees have.
They do have a smorgasbord of plans, and they get to pick whatever one they want.
But there's not one of them that's run by the government.
They're all run by the private sector.
They're paid for by you and me, but they're not run by the government.
And they're not going to choose the public option.
These members of Congress and certain federal officials, they're not going to choose it.
Then he went to a question.
A little girl of early teenage stood up.
Obama said, when do you go back to school?
She said, September 3rd.
You know, her question was, when I was walking in, I saw all of these signs opposing health care reform.
Mean signs, mean signs, opposing health care reform.
Why do people oppose what was it?
Why are people against something that will make their lives better?
Or some such thing as that?
And how can we know what's true?
Now, I'm sorry, folks.
13-year-old, 14, 15, I don't care.
Nothing about that computes.
I've seen these mean signs.
Why are people so opposed to something to help them?
How do we know what is true?
This is, I almost wish I was carrying this.
I wish I jipped this.
This is very unimpressive.
Same plan as Congress?
What the hell is he talking about?
Nobody's proposing for crying out loud.
When Congress reads, there is no section 1233 for Congress where they have to get counseled near the end of life.
All right, back to David in Bensonville, Illinois.
All right, why don't you try to summarize what you wanted to tell me, what you think is going on in the country?
What I think is going on, Russian, I'm not being contentious.
Well, you are being contentious.
Come on.
When you assume that I'm not going to hold you on to the break as I said I would hold you on to the break.
This is what I want to summarize.
You think there's a big, giant grassroots movement, quote-unquote grassroots movement for conservatives and Republicans in this country.
And you know what?
It's not happening.
You guys think it is.
If that makes you sleep better at night, I'm sure you make a ton of money, $20, $30 million a year.
38.
You have so many people calling into you because they want to agree with you, and no one wants to do their homework.
You can go back in the history of this country.
Anything that's actually done anybody good has not come out of the conservative movement.
The FDIC, Social Security, Left Steagle, Medicare, Medicaid, even the Peace Corps, and even the Special Olympics.
Have you guys even thought that you guys were part of that?
I'm sure you have.
And when Clinton, I'm sure, this is how I see it.
Obama's going to be the worst nightmare even more than Clinton, because Clinton was supposed to be a five-star screw-up.
And all he did, he balanced the budget, he had a good economy, and he didn't get us into wars.
And now you've got Obama.
And he's not one of us, to quote most of the people I see at those meetings.
It's not my America.
And I'm sure Snerdley would really appreciate it.
David.
He's a Negro, isn't he?
David.
He's a black guy.
Go ahead, Rush.
David.
Okay.
I've been engaging in the Mort Kondracki preferred way of responding to you.
And that is when somebody's making a fool of themselves, just stand out of the way and let it happen without any vitriol and without any argument.
You really are clueless.
You have no idea what you're talking about.
It would be pointless.
I'd love to try to be pointless trying to change your mind.
You come here with these racially charged things about he doesn't look like us.
There's nobody on our side saying that.
Then you throw Snerdley in the mix here.
You're talking about things you don't know anything about for somebody who claims to have been listening to this program since the beginning.
With Snirdley.
You're making control.
You have template beliefs that are not grounded in any fact or truth within the world.
Oh, no.
There is a groundswell of opposition to Obama's agenda.
He is plummeting in the polls.
In the Rasmussen poll, his approval just today went below 50%.
Every time he gets up and speaks about health care, the numbers in support of Obama's health care plan plummet.
I don't know what you would call it when Obama has to dispatch his union thugs to town hall meetings to rough up participants who don't want the plan.
You may not want to call it a groundswell.
You may not want to call it a grassroots movement.
But I mean, you're just, you got your head in the sand.
You're being blind.
If you don't want to admit what you really see, it's not all made up.
It's not all fabricated.
There's genuine opposition to this because this is not what the American people voted for.
This is not what they want.
And this man is in the process of destroying the Democrat Party.
We'll find out soon enough.
But you are going to have to get with it.
People like you are sitting around being ignorant rather than getting, in fact, understanding evidence and truth about what's happening.
You're relying on your Trump template.
You're relying on whatever your partisan biases make you believe in.
And it's people like you that are going to allow this administration to take over and take away as much liberty and freedom from the American people as possible, all in the name of some partisan politics.
You think I'm opposing Obama because I don't like Obama?
You think these people out there are opposing Obama because it's not about Obama.
It's about them.
It's about their freedom.
It's about liberty.
It's about their health care.
It's about their right to make decisions in their lives as they see fit.
It's not his business to determine who gets what kind of health care win.
It's not John Dingell's.
It's not Arlen Specter's.
It's not Kathleen Sebelius's.
It's not the government's.
People don't want to turn over that freedom to the government.
They've had it.
It's not about Obama.
It's about them.
It's about their kids.
It's about their grandkids.
It's about future.
It's about freedom, prosperity, opportunity.
And all of that they think is threatened.
If this were just about destroying Obama, you'd have a point, but it's not.
He just happens to be the leader of the movement that's trying to bring all this about.
It has to be stopped for this country to remain the way it was founded, pure and simple.
And we're going to need people like you on our side rather than just having your head in a bottle or in the sand getting your thrills because you think Republicans and conservatives are taking it on the chin.
When Republicans and conservatives take it on the chin, take it back.
When conservatives take it on the chin, screw the Republicans.
When conservatives take it on the chin, so does America.
Appreciate the call.
Caroline, Cincinnati, you're next.
EIB network.
Hello.
Hello.
Thank you for taking my call.
Yes, madam.
My point is that all these liberal politicians are claiming that all these provisions are just sort of innocent, benevolent provisions.
They don't mean what we think they might mean.
And apparently we're supposed to put on blinders and ignore the reality of what these mean and all these other countries that have socialized medicine.
It is inevitable.
There is going to be rationing.
That little innocent mandatory counseling is going to turn into euthanasia.
And the fact that they're claiming this, they think we're a bunch of idiots.
You know, here's, I'm going to take the occasion of your call to make another point about this.
Let's say that I am a member of Congress.
Let's say I'm Arlen Specter or Dingle.
And you're at a town hall and you come and you say this to me.
And you tell me that in this bill, there is rationing.
It's going to lead to euthanasia.
Now, if you are wrong, I am going to spend as much time as I can.
I'm going to point to the bill and say, no, here's where you think you're reading it, but it doesn't say that.
We are not going to be engaged in any.
I'm going to try to disabuse you the notion.
If I think it's really good, instead, what happens to people like you who show up, who ask these questions or make these statements?
You're told, it's a vicious rumor.
And next question, please.
There is no attempt to change your mind.
All there is is an effort to convince everybody else watching and listening that you're wrong and that you don't know what you're talking about.
There is no salesmanship of this whatsoever.
But if this euthanasia business, as you called it, Section 1233, mandatory end of life counseling, if, and Obama said, give them a pain pill instead of surgery, if we're all wrong about this, then it is time for us to be told why in a persuasive way.
And that isn't happening, is it?
No, and it may not happen right away.
I mean, if God help us all, this thing ever passed, there might be money there for a while.
There might be some money.
But the bottom line is it's going to run out.
And sooner or later, they're going to have to start having their little commissions and committees telling old people what treatments they can get.
We don't have the money now.
Well, I know, but, you know, I mean, there'll be the honeymoon period where everybody, you know, thinks this is all so great and I have free health care, et cetera.
But sooner or later, I don't know how long, sooner or later it's going to happen, though.
And it's all in there.
It's all in there.
And all it has to do is come to life when the money runs out, which is what's going to happen.
I appreciate the call.
Thank you.
Thank you, Caroline Cincinnati.
Quick timeout.
We'll be back.
Somebody just told me, I got to check this out.
I just got an email.
Somebody said that during the section of the town meeting Obama's doing right now while I was engaged in this program, that he was talking and the standing O erupted with a long applause that segued into yes, we can.
If that happened, well, now I just don't think that sentiment for Obama exists.
The last time we saw Yes, We Can was during the campaign, which they've revived.
I think that's a sign they've overproduced this.
They've overproduced it.
This is not addressing any of the concerns out there.
They're still going out and sending Obama out using this powerful cult-like leader personality he has to get them over the hump here.
We'll have to see.
Back after this with much more, don't go away.
I don't know.
This is hard.
And the president is just, I'm not promoting a single-payer plan.
Very uncomfortable.
Well, let me look at my stack here to see what we have.
Do we have, cookie, if we don't have it in the roster, get me 03 and 07.
If we do, tell me where they are real quick because I got a lot of paper here in the soundbite roster.
Do you still believe in universal coverage?
It was a question from an audience member.
And he's like, I don't believe.
I'm not promoting a single-payer plan.
Not he is.
It just is.
This makes me really uncomfortable.
I don't like...
I don't like thinking these kind of things about the president of the United States.
And I certainly don't like saying them.
I just don't like saying it.
Not helpful, but it's true.
Matt in Bethlehem, Pennsylvania.
Hi, welcome to the EIB Network.
Hello.
Thank you so much for taking my call.
You bet.
If I could take a few seconds to thank you personally for something you're probably not aware of.
I used to be a sales guy, and I've always wanted to follow my dream doing something else.
And it turns out I used to schedule my sales calls around your show in your commercial breaks and things like that.
And then after hearing you say two more fun than a human being should be allowed to have so many times talking about the struggles, I finally abandoned it.
I'm pursuing my dream.
I'm pretty successful at it.
And I've got to give you credit for it.
No, well, give yourself credit.
Too many people are afraid to give themselves credit for what they're doing because they think it's bragging or it's somehow not polite.
Don't be afraid to give yourself credit for what you've done.
Well, it's true.
And I realize all the time that there's so many people probably better than I am at what I do, but they just never got to the starting line.
I've gotten there, and just because I showed up, I'm already ahead of most of them.
No, they never got the starting line or they never tried to get the starting line.
You did.
You did.
There's no reason to have any guilt about this.
No, it's not guilt.
It's just I did it and now no one can take it away from me.
And I love it.
And you're part of the reason.
Thank you very much.
I got it.
Got it, buddy.
Okay, here's my point.
Do you remember when Obama spoke to the AMA meeting and one of the first things he did out of the box as far as controlling costs and things, he shot down toward reform.
He said, too important, got to keep people accountable, blah, blah, blah.
What's interesting, and we all know why he did that, it's because the support from the trial lawyers and things like that.
What happens when he eventually gets what he wants, and Barney Frank and those folks, and they get the single payer?
The trial lawyers can't sue anybody.
You can't sue the government.
Do the trial lawyers understand that by supporting this guy, they are ultimately throwing away their meal ticket?
See, I used to think that too.
I used to think, wait a minute, once the private insurers are out of there, they're not going to be able to sue anybody.
You're not thinking here.
This whole thing is a sop to the trial lawyers and the public sector union bosses.
True, true.
But once it gets to the point of costs, when costs become crazy high and they see these continual lawsuits and the John Edwards of the world continue to get these $100 million settlements, they're going to say, wait a minute, we just got to X that off the balance sheet.
You can't do this anymore.
You can't sue anymore.
That's it.
Do you agree?
Who's going to be saying you can't sue anymore?
The government-run option people.
The people who are in charge of the government health care plan are going to say, we can't afford this potential liability.
They're not going to be suing the government.
You can't sue the government.
Right.
That's my point.
The trial lawyers will have no more medical malpractice.
No, they'll sue the doctors.
But aren't the doctors on the government payroll now?
Not technically.
Okay.
Well, do you think it will always be that way?
Because then once they're not on the government payroll, then they'll have options.
The last thing the government wants is them to have options.
One thing I know is if the Democrat Party ever takes away the option of the plaintiff's bar to behave as they have been, that's the end of all money and support for the Democrat Party from the plaintiff's bar.
And since money is the mother's milk of politics, that ain't going to happen.
That's no more likely than Obama telling this guy Stern that runs the SEIU, screw you, buddy.
I don't need you anymore.
It ain't going to happen.
I just thought that it was possibly the law of unintended consequences with the trial lawyers being short-sighted to support.
No, no, no, no.
Okay.
I understand that you're thinking about unintended consequences, but the unintended consequences of this are the bankruptcy of the country, the end of the goose that lays the golden egg.
There isn't going to be the money for any of this.
The unintended consequences are going to be the absolute revolts when families are told, sorry, your kid or your grandmother, here's the pain pill.
You think this could be undone?
Well, there's got to be something other, something else.
Once you take something out of the private sector, it doesn't exist there anymore.
So you just can't say, okay, government run health care is over.
What do people do then?
I mean, there's got to be some, there's going to be a doctor's office.
It'd be tough.
This is crucial.
This is very important.
I wish I had more time.
I'm up against it on the clock here.
We'll be right back.
Thanks much, Matt, for the phone call.
The President of the United States is stumbling and foundering badly.
He's now explaining he's going to pay for all of this by limiting the deductions that people like him, who make more than $250,000 a year, are able to take.
I mean, this is right out of the campaign.
This isn't even elegant.
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