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Aug. 11, 2009 - Rush Limbaugh Program
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August 11, 2009, Tuesday, Hour #2
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All right, now we have a stage-managed White House town meeting starting right now in Portsmouth, New Hampshire, President Obama is out now greeting the thundering applause mob that is with a very unruly mobs uh behind Obama's podium there.
Uh they won't stop clapping.
Uh they're distracting Obama from getting the microphone, he's having to applaud and shake their hands in return.
I just want to make an observation.
Because I know the tactics of Acorn and AFL CIO and uh and other union people.
If in the next hour or however long this town meeting takes, if somebody breaks up the meeting, interrupts it, wearing a clan uniform or carrying a swastika sign, it will be an acorn person or a union person using political jujitsu to try to make it look like opponents of uh Obama's health care plan uh are these uh radicals that have been described by the uh uh state-controlled media at various events.
I'm not predicting it, I'm not saying it's gonna happen, but if it does, know full well that it is not a genuine opponent of Obama's plan that will do this.
These people are running a political campaign right now.
This is no longer about health care, even.
This is about a successful political campaign that Obama's succeeding in uh in building a monument to himself.
Great to have you back for the second hour of Broadcast Excellence.
I am L. Rushbow, meeting and surpassing all audience expectations every day.
Telephone number 800-282-2882, and the email address L Rushbaugh at EIB Net.com.
How many times have you been listening to this program?
You've heard me take a call from somebody who was not a seminar caller, somebody who who had their facts wrong, they disagreed with me, and I either turned them around or the caller was shown to be uninformed and so forth, but I spent time with they were wrong about something, and we're not seminar caller just trying to disrupt and make a point.
The point is I do a town hall meeting every day on this program.
And people who run businesses have their own versions of town hall meetings every day.
When you when you have somebody who disagrees with you, who's wrong, and you're able to show them why they're wrong, and you persuade them, then you've had a win-win.
And uh I've made a living handling tough callers and tough questions.
I don't have to bully anybody to make points.
All you have to do is stand your ground, get the facts out, uh, engage whoever it is who's wrong who disagrees with you, and at the end of the process, everybody's all better off.
But that's not what we're seeing in these town hall meetings conducted by members of Congress.
We're we're we're we're seeing videos of failure.
And the failure that we're seeing is the failure to communicate on a national scale by proponents of this plan.
Congressmen, members of the Senate, Kathleen Sibelius, the uh congressman down in Georgia, Dingle, Pelosi.
They're not communicating with anybody.
They are screaming at the people they work for.
They would be fired in the private sector, behaving the way they're behaving.
And this failure to communicate on the part of the people who are doing this bill, the failure of the people who are trying to sell this to communicate, like I said last hour, if I really believed something was the greatest thing I've ever seen, and it was going to be very helpful to the country and and our population, and there was so many lies and disinformation about it, I would be eager to have as many people come in so I could square it away with them, so I could tell them the truth, so I could t show them how they're wrong.
I love I love getting calls from people disagree with me on this program.
It is a delight to open somebody up to the truth to get the cocoon in which they've sheltered themselves broken apart, so they see things a different way.
That's that's a I mean, that's a huge pleasure.
But this failure to communicate on the part of people who are trying to sell this, and I guess that's they're not even trying to sell it.
They're just Trying to ram it down our throats.
And the failure to communicate it, the inability to communicate it is quite telling about how deeply flawed the plan in play is.
But at the same time, the uh people that we have elected to service are showing their true colors.
They are rude.
They are filled with contempt for their constituents, average citizens, they're condescending.
They are stonewalling the people who pay every bill in this country.
Nothing is accomplished here.
We have the problems heightened and the problems are all focused on, but nothing ever gets solved.
And then when when when we come along and the lack of a solution to a problem leads to a bigger problem, the people that gave us the problem in the first place sit around like they had nothing to do with it.
They get to act like spectators, have a bunch of blue-ribbon commission and sp investigations to figure out what went wrong.
Hurricane Katrina's a great example of that.
These kinds of meetings, these kinds of meetings, these town hall meetings, these are old hats to people in the private sector.
Whether you run a small business or a large business, whether you hit up a group of people in a department, this is this is the kind of thing that you deal with all the time.
People that don't understand what you're doing, and you want them on your team, you want them to understand.
You take time out.
People in the private sector hold these kind of town meetings all the time.
And in many instances, they are um they are the difference between success and failure.
And we we are witnessing failure here.
The failure to be able to communicate from elected officials to constituents about what this plan is and what's in it.
And the reason for the failure to communicate is they don't believe is any good.
And they don't care whether it's any good.
They don't, all they're trying to do is disabuse you of truthful notions that you have about it.
And that's the wrong side to be on, especially with an aroused public.
You don't want to be on the side that's not the truth and trying to ram it down people's throats.
There is a there's an effervescence out there.
It's just visible in these town hall meetings, but there's an effervescence, and it's been effervescing, it's been bubbling up out there for a long time.
Not just about Obama, but about the irresponsibility and the corruption and the untruthfulness of people in government for a long time.
But now it's manifested itself to a point where freedom and liberty are the intended targets of this particular piece of legislation and others that this administration has in mind.
And in addition to that, people, enough people are sophisticated to know that not only are they they the targets, their liberty and freedom of the targets, they're gonna have to cough up the money to lose their freedom.
They're gonna have to cough up additional tax running revenue and the increases and so forth.
Now they're talking about a value-added tax to pay for all this irresponsible deficit spending that's unprecedented in the nation's history.
People are not ignorant, dumb, and stupid, and the core values of this country still are not represented by the likes of Obama and the radical Democrats in his party who are putting together this agenda, which is why they have to continue to lie about it.
Which is why Obama, and I'm sure he will say it today again.
If you like your current plan, you get to keep it.
You don't.
It's on page 16 of the House bill.
And there's a similar version in the Senate that's got pretty much the same restriction.
You're not going to be able to keep the insurance you have.
But here's we had a great call yesterday.
I want to reiterate this point.
A guy had a point yesterday.
Okay, look, if if the health care system is broken, if it's so out of whack, if we've got to just totally reform it, then how does it fit that the president can say, if you like your plan, you keep it?
Those two don't go together.
If we've got to totally revamp and reform this system because it's breaking the bank, it's causing out-of-control deficits, it's gonna ruin the future for kids and grandkids, then whatever's working now got to change, right?
So if he says you like your plan, now you get to keep it.
How does that square with this need for massive reform?
Here's uh John Dengle.
This a series of soundbites, what your representatives think of you.
Last night on television, MSNBC, Dengall was asked, these town halls remind you of anything like the 60s at all.
Well, the last time I had to confront something like this was when I voted for the civil rights bill, and my opponent voted against it.
At that time, uh, we had a lot of Ku Klux Klan folks and white supremacist and folks in white sheets running around causing trouble.
So this reminds him of that.
Last time he's had to confront something like this.
Was when the Klan was running.
Well, let's move forward.
Let me find these sound bites.
Starting at number 10.
We'll let you hear a couple of sound bites from this uh town meeting that Dingle had that reminded him of the Ku Klux Klan.
What we have here, Mike Sola interrupted the Congress and he's pushed his son Scott in a wheelchair to the podium.
I have a question for this young man.
I'm his father, and I want to talk to you face to face.
Under the Obama health care plan, which you support.
This man would be given no care whatsoever because he is a cerebral palsy handicapped person.
We put an amendment in which will address his specific problem as the bill was going through.
No, no, no, no, no!
Okay, that's the father of the disabled son screaming at uh at Dingle.
Uh now, yesterday on America's Newsroom on Fox News Channel, Megan Kelly interviewed Mike Sola, the father, who had that exchange with uh with Dingle.
Megan Kelly said, Nancy Pelosi, Stenny Hoyer have come out with editorials today saying in part that these disruptions are occurring because the opponents are afraid, not just of differing views, but because of the facts themselves, drowning out opposing views are simply un-American.
I was trying to speak as an American with a right of freedom of speech, but I'd like to address something to Miss Pelosi and Mr. Stoy, whatever his name is, Hoyer.
If you call my son an American, your thugs already know where we live.
We've had a visit from them in the middle of the night.
You know where we live.
I suggest you take that plane that you have and fly to Milan, Michigan, and say that directly to my son's face if you've got the guts.
This is a free country.
I am a parent of a handicapped American citizen.
And the reason that I am so concerned is this.
Every American should pull this up on his computer.
It's the New York Post, July 24th edition.
Dangerous doctors.
Every American needs to read this, and you'll understand this groundswell.
Oh, wow, as this man got his information here from a newspaper.
I didn't hear him mention my name.
I didn't hear him mention talk radio.
He got his information from a newspaper, the New York Post, Dangerous Doctors.
Megan Kelly says, What do you mean they came to your house in the middle of the night?
After the uh incident was aired on television, we had a visit that night.
A message was sent to my family.
It has been reported to the Washington County Sheriff, and uh their deputy has reported it to the state police.
People are harassing you now, Mike.
Yes, they are.
And all I'm going to say to the person who doesn't have the courage to do it in the daytime, I will use lethal force if necessary to protect Scott and my wife.
Your message has been received.
My wife is terrified.
We have not told Scott about it.
But if you I ever catch you on my property, I will take the risk of going to prison.
But you will never again threaten my family.
Well, he thinks he's being threatened by uh supporters of Obama's health care plan after his appearance with Dingle at the uh at the uh at the town meeting, and then uh she finally said to those who say you were not productive at the meeting, your behavior.
How uh how do you respond to that?
They want to foist on us a health care plan that they themselves will not take.
I challenge Barack Obama, the members of Congress of both parties.
If you believe so much in this plan, then you use it on your family before you put it on our families.
What you are doing Is sentencing our families to death.
We lose the right to life.
The old people are discarded.
Those who cannot fend for themselves are discarded.
That's the problem.
The people have seen it.
The people know it.
You can't hide it from the American people anymore.
Don't call my son a thug, and don't call those old ladies thugs and a mop.
We are American citizens who want to be heard before you put us down.
Exactly right.
And it's this guy is illustrating what I said in the last hour.
And to them, this is not an academic debate.
It's about something very, very real.
Freedom.
Finally, Meghan Kelly says, Was your goal to show up and make trouble?
Were you affiliated with a specific group?
Were you encouraged by somebody on the internet or TV?
I came there as an American citizen concerned about the plan that they're trying to put on us.
Nothing.
I'm not a Republican.
I'm not a Democrat.
I voted both ways.
Mr. Dingle, if he was under this plan, ma'am, he would not have the the two uh the two knees nor the hip.
They were they would tell him, I'm sorry, Mr. Dingle, you're 84, you're not worth it.
Quick time out.
We'll be back.
Remember now, Dingle said that this whole scenario to him reminded me of the KKK back in the 60s.
This is actually kind of interesting to me.
Now I haven't been able to follow the whole thing because I, of course, have been doing broadcast excellence while Obama's out there desperately trying to save his flawed plan at Portsmouth, New Hampshire, but I did have a chance to listen to some of what he's saying in his town hall meeting now.
And there's nothing new in it from what I heard.
It's the same old say.
He said, Well, you will not lose your coverage.
If you like your plan, you will not lose it.
I'm sorry.
Folks, you will lose it.
Eventually you will lose it.
And many of you almost instantly after this thing becomes law.
The whole point of the public option is to entice private sector businesses and insurance companies to drop insurance coverage because how do you compete with an entity that never has to show a profit?
And the federal government never has to show a profit.
But this is it it this is devious because this man cannot dare tell you the truth.
The truth is he wants a single payer system.
He doesn't want you with private insurance.
We've got him on tape saying it many times since 2003.
He then said there won't be any long lines.
You will not have to wait in any lines.
Now, where the hell did that come from?
But there's nothing inspiring here.
He's saying, well, it's it's very scary what these people are saying about our plan here, but what's even more scary is not doing anything.
Nobody's talking about not doing anything.
What people are talking about is saving one-sixth of the U.S. private sector economy as a private sector economy.
What people are talking about is saving their liberty.
They're talking about saving their freedom.
There are alternative health care plans out there, many of them.
Republicans in both the House and the Senate have put them forth.
They just they don't have the power to get them passed.
Nobody's paying any attention to them.
So the typical straw dog argument.
I'll tell you this this is um this is this is the president seems on the hands of uh he's unraveling here.
He's he's responding.
They are in defense.
The New York Times said it today, story by Jim Rutenberg.
They are defensive about this, they've lost control of the debate, and you can tell it in a little amount of time I had to uh to listen.
But it's clear that the people who oppose the bill who've read it have hit some home runs here because I knew for a fact you give you like your coverage, you're gonna be able to keep it.
Page 16, you won't.
All right, David in uh in Bensonville, Illinois.
Uh, I'm glad you waved your next on the EIB network, sir.
Hello.
Oh, Rush.
Uh, I told Snerdley um that I was pretty much the loyal opposition uh for years.
I have listened to you since probably geez, 1987, is that possible?
1988.
1988.
I heard first heard you when you came on.
And uh the only thing I was talking to sternly about.
Now, if we can have a dialogue here, it would be really nice if you can spend some time because you always think you can change someone's minds around.
I mean, that's that's part of your your deal to to inform people.
Um you think this whole Obama cure, and I want to actually really the Obama cure actually We we need to transcend the whole thing about Obama in general.
Because the Obamacare is a small part of it, as I see it.
And you talk about how people are so fed up with what you know I I saw the Nazi symbols.
I saw the hammer and sickle before the election even took place.
I saw them at the tea parties.
And you you have to say you you talk about a a change in America.
America is changing for for you, and the GOP is changing.
It's a nightmare for you guys right now.
What happened in the New York 20?
You know, Murphy.
David, I'm gonna have to ask you to hold on to the break.
Um I'll hold on, Rush, if you will.
You're being contentious with me for no reason.
You're never contented with the.
You're being you're being an SOB for no reason.
I'm gonna hold you to the break because I said I would.
This town hall meeting the president's conducting is unbelievable.
I don't think he knows what he's talking about.
He just said, he just said that his health care plan, which he has never shown us, we have never seen the Obama health proposal.
His plan is going to get this be pretty much just like what Congress has.
You're gonna be able to go to an exchange where there are going to be all these plans, and you'll be able to pick the one you want, in addition to a public option, a government plan is gonna be thrown in the mix.
And we're doing that to keep the insurance companies honest.
Now, my friends, of all the plans that have been proposed that we have seen, I am here to tell you that no such plan exists.
He has described what members of Congress and the Senate, a lot of federal employees have.
They do have a smorgasbord of plans, and they get to pick whatever one they want.
But they're not there's not one of them that's run by the government.
They're all run by the private sector.
They're paid for by you and me, but they're not run by the government.
And they're not gonna choose the public option, these members of Congress and uh certain federal officials, they're not gonna choose it.
Then he went to a question.
A little girl of early teenage stood up, Obama said, when do you go back to school?
She said September 3rd.
You know her question was.
When I was walking in, I saw all of these signs opposing health care reform.
Mean signs, mean signs, opposing health care reform.
Why do people oppose what was it?
Why aren't people against something that will make their lives better?
Or or some such thing as that.
How can yeah and then how can we know what's true?
Now I'm sorry, folks.
Well, 13-year-old 1415, I don't care.
That nothing about that computes.
I've seen these mean signs.
Uh, why are people so opposed to something to help them?
Uh uh what how do we know what is true?
This is uh I'm I've it's I almost wish I was carrying this.
Uh wish wish I jip this.
This is this is uh very unimpressive.
Same plan is Congress?
What the hell is he talking about?
Nobody's proposing for crying out loud.
When Congress reached there is no section 1233 for Congress where they have to get counseled near the end of life.
All right, back to David in uh in Bensonville, Illinois.
All right, why don't you try to summarize what you wanted to tell me what you think is going on in the country?
What I what I think is going on, Rush, and I'm not being contentious.
Well, you are being contentious when you come on.
When you assume that I'm not gonna hold you on to the break as I said I would hold you on to the break.
This is what I want to summarize.
You think there's a big giant grassroots movement, quote unquote grassroots movement for conservatives and Republicans in this country.
And you know what?
It's not happening.
You guys think it is, if that makes you sleep better at night, I'm sure you you make a ton of money, 23 million dollars a year.
Thirty eight.
You have you have so many people calling in to you because they want to agree with you, and no one wants to do their homework.
You can go back in the history of this country.
Anything that's actually done anybody good has not come out of the conservative movement.
The the FDIC, Social Security, Glass Steagall, Medicare, Medicaid, even the Peace Corps, and even the Special Olympics.
Have you guys even thought that you guys were part of that?
Mm-hmm.
Uh-huh.
I'm sure you have.
And what you know when when Clinton, I'm sure this is Obama.
This is how I see it.
Obama's gonna be the worst nightmare even more than Clinton.
Because Clinton was supposed to be a five-star screw up.
And all he did, he balanced the budget, he had a good economy, and he didn't get us into wars.
And now you got Obama.
And he's not one of us to quote most of the people I see at those meetings.
It's not my America.
And you can sure snurdly would really appreciate it.
David's a Negro, isn't he?
David.
He's a blank guy.
Go ahead, Rush.
David.
Okay.
Um I've been engaging in the Mort Kondraki preferred way of responding to you, and that is when somebody's making a fool of themselves, just stand out of the way and let it happen.
Without any vitriol and without any argument, you really are clueless.
You have no idea what you're talking about.
I it would be pointless.
I'd love to try to be pointless trying to change your mind.
You come here with these racially charged things about he doesn't look like us.
There's nobody on our side saying that.
Then you throw Snerdley in the mix here.
You you're talking about things you don't know anything about for somebody who claims to have been listening to this program since the beginning.
With snorkeling, you are you are you're you're making them.
You have templates.
You have template beliefs that are not grounded in any fact or truth what's going on.
Oh, no.
There is a groundswell of opposition to Obama's agenda.
He is plummeting in the polls.
In the Rasmussen poll, his approval just today went below 50%.
Every time he gets up and speaks about health care, the numbers in support of Obama's health care plan plummet.
I don't know what you would call it when Obama has to dispatch his union thugs to town hall meetings to rough up participants who don't want the plan.
I you may not want to call it a ground swell.
You may not want to call it a ground uh grassroots movement.
But I mean, you're just you got your head in the sand, you're being blind.
If you don't want to admit what you really see, it's not all made up, it's not all fabricated.
There's genuine opposition to this because this is not what the American people voted for.
This is not what they want.
And this man is in the process of destroying the Democrat Party.
We'll find out soon enough.
But you are gonna have to get with it.
People like you are sitting around being ignorant rather than getting in fact, understanding evidence and truth about what's happening.
You're relying on your Trump template, you're relying on uh whatever your partisan biases make you believe in, and it's people like you that are gonna allow this administration to take over and take away as much liberty and freedom from the American people as possible, all in the name of some partisan politics.
You think I'm opposing Obama because I don't like Obama?
You think these people out there opposing Obama because it's not about Obama, it's about them, it's about their freedom, it's about liberty.
It's about their health care, it's about their right to make decisions in their lives as they see fit.
It's not his business to determine who gets what kind of health care win.
It's not John Dingall's, it's not Arlen Spector's, it's not Kathleen Sebelius's, it's not the government's people don't want to turn over that freedom to the government.
They've had it.
It's not about Obama, it's about them.
It's about their kids, it's about their grandkids, it's about future, it's about freedom, prosperity, opportunity.
And all of that they think is threatened.
If this were just about destroying Obama, you'd have a point, but it's not.
He just happens to be the leader of the movement that's trying to bring all this about.
It has to be stopped for this country to remain the way it was founded.
Pure and simple.
And we're gonna need people like you on our side rather than just having your head in a bottle or in the sand, getting your thrills because you think Republicans and conservatives are taking it on the chin.
When Republicans and conservatives take it on the chin, take it back.
When conservatives take it on the chin, screw the Republicans.
When conservatives take it on the chin, so does America.
Appreciate the call.
Caroline, Cincinnati, your next EIB network.
Hello.
Hello, thank you for taking my call.
Yes, madam.
Um, My point is that um all these liberal politicians are claiming that all these provisions are just sort of in innocent, benevolent provisions.
They don't mean what we think they might mean.
And apparently we're supposed to put on blinders and ignore the reality of what these mean and all these other countries that have socialized medicine.
It is inevitable.
There is going to be rationing.
That little innocent mandatory counseling is going to turn into euthanasia.
And the fact that they're that they're claiming this, they think we're a bunch of idiots.
You know, here's I'm going to take the occasion of your call to make another point about this.
Let's say that I am member of Congress.
Let's say I'm Arlen Spector or Dingle, and you're at a town hall and you come and you say this to me, and you tell me that in this bill there is rationing it's going to lead to euthanasia.
Now, if you are wrong, I am going to spend as much time as I can.
I'm going to point to the bill and say, no, here's where you think you're reading it, but it doesn't say that.
We are not going to be engaged in any I'm going to try to disabuse you of the notion.
If I think it's really good.
Instead, what happens to people like you who show up who ask these questions or make these statements, you're told that's a vicious rumor, and uh next question, please.
There is no attempt to change your mind.
All there is is an effort to convince everybody else watching and listening that you're wrong and that you don't know what you're talking about.
There is no salesmanship of this whatsoever.
But if if if this euthanasia business, as you called it, Section 1233, mandatory end of life counseling, if and Obama said give them a pain pill instead of surgery.
If all if we if we're all wrong about this, then it is time for us to be told why in a persuasive way.
And that isn't happening, is it?
No, and I it may not happen right away.
I mean, if God help us all, this thing ever passed, there might be money there for a while.
There might be some money.
But the bottom line is it's gonna run out.
And sooner or later, they're gonna have to start having their little commissions and committees telling old people what treatments they can get.
We don't have the money now.
Well, I I know, but you know, I mean, there'll be the honeymoon period where everybody, you know, thinks this is all so great, and I have free health care, et cetera.
And um, but sooner or later, I don't know how long, sooner or later it's gonna happen, though.
And it's all in there.
It's all it's all in there, and all it has to do is come to life when the money runs out, which is what's gonna happen.
I appreciate the call.
Thank you.
Thank you, Caroline Cincinnati quick timeout.
We'll be back.
Somebody just told me, I gotta check this out.
I just got an email.
Somebody said that during the um section of the town meeting Obama's doing right now while I was engaged in this program, that he was talking and the standing O erupted with a long appause that segueed into yes we can.
If that happened Well, now I just don't think that sentiment for Obama ex when when the last time we saw yes we can was during the campaign, which they've revived.
I think that's a sign they've overproduced this.
They've overproduced it.
I don't uh this this is this is not addressing any of the concerns out there.
They're still going out sending Obama out using this powerful cult-like leader personality he has to uh to get them over the hump here.
We'll have to see.
Back after this with much more don't go away.
I don't know.
This is hard.
And the president is just I I I don't I'm not promoting a single payer plan.
I uh very uncomfortable.
Well, let me look at my stack here to see what we have.
Do we have Cookie if we don't have it in the roster, get me O three and oh seven.
If we do, tell me where they are real quick, because I got a lot of paper here in the soundboard roster.
Uh well, he said you still believe in universal coverage is a question from uh an audience member and is I I I I don't believe I'm not promoting a single payer plan.
That he is.
It just is.
It just is.
Uh I'm this makes me really uncomfortable.
I don't like I don't like thinking this these kind of things about the President of the United States.
I just I just and I certainly don't like saying them.
I just don't like saying it.
It not helpful, but it's true.
Matt in Bethlehem, Pennsylvania.
Hi, welcome to the EIB network.
Hello.
Thank you so much for taking my call.
You bet.
Uh, if I could take a few seconds to thank you personally for something you're probably not aware of.
I used to be a sales guy, and I've always wanted to follow my dream doing something else, and it turns out I used to schedule my sales calls around your show in your commercial breaks and things like that.
And then after hearing you say two more fun than a human being should be allowed to have so many times talking about the struggles, I finally abandon it.
I'm pursuing my dream, I'm pretty successful at it, and I gotta give you credit for it.
No, well, give yourself credit.
Don't be you know, too many too many people are afraid to give themselves credit for what they're doing because they think it's bragging or it's uh it's somehow not not uh polite.
But don't be afraid to give yourself credit for what you've done.
Well it's not it's not it's true, and I realize all the time that there's so many people probably better than I am at what I do, but they just never got to the starting line.
I've gotten there, and just because I showed up, I'm already ahead of most of them.
No, you yet they they never got to the starting line, or they never tried to get the starting.
You did.
You did.
There's no there's no reason to have any guilt about this.
Not that.
No, it's not guilt.
It's just I did it, and now no one can take it away from me.
I love it.
And you're part of the reason.
So we'll just thank you very much.
I got everybody.
Okay, here's here's my point.
Uh, do you remember uh when Obama spoke to the AMA meeting, and one of the first things he did out of the box was far as controlling costs and things, he shot down tort reform.
He said, too important, gotta keep people accountable, blah, blah, blah.
What's interesting, and we all know why he did that, it's because the support from the trial lawyers and things like that.
What happens when he eventually gets what he wants, and Barney Frank and those folks, and they get the single payer.
The trial lawyers can't sue anybody.
You can't sue the government.
Do the trial lawyers understand that by supporting this guy they are ultimately throwing away their meal ticket.
Um see, I used to think that too.
I used to think, wait a minute, once the private insurers are out of there, they're not gonna be able to sue anybody.
You're not thinking here.
This whole thing is a SOP to the trial lawyers and the public sector union bosses.
True, true.
But once it gets to the point of costs, when costs become crazy high and they see these continual lawsuits, and the John Edwards is of the world continue to get these hundred million dollars out of the month, they're gonna say, wait a minute, we just gotta X that off the balance sheet.
You can't do this anymore.
You can't sue anymore, that's it.
Do you agree?
Who's gonna be saying you can't sue anymore?
The the government run option people.
The people who are in charge of the government health care plant are gonna say we can't afford this potential liability.
They're not gonna be suing the government.
You can't sue the government.
Right.
That's my point.
The trial will have no more medical malpractice.
Oh, they'll sue the doctors.
But aren't the doctors on the on the government payroll now?
Not technically.
Okay.
Well, I do you think it will always be that way?
Because then once they're not on the government payroll, then they can then they'll have options.
And the last thing the government wants is them to have options.
One thing I know is if the Democrat Party ever takes away the option of the plaintiff's bar to behave as they have been, that's the end of all money and support for the Democrat Party from the plaintiff's bar.
And since money is the mother's milk of politics, that ain't gonna happen.
That's no more likely than Obama telling this guy Stern that runs the SEIU, screw you, buddy, I don't need you anymore.
It ain't gonna happen.
I just thought that it was possibly the law of unintended consequences with the trial lawyers being short-sighted to support.
No, no, no, no, no.
I understand that you're thinking about unintended consequences.
Uh but the unintended consequences of this are the bankruptcy of the country, uh the end of the goose that lays the golden egg.
Uh there's there's there isn't gonna be the money for any of this.
The unintended consequences are gonna be the absolute revolts when families are told, sorry, your kid or your grandmother, I we uh here's the pain pill.
You think this could be undone.
Well, there's gotta be something other something else to one once you take something out of the private sector, it doesn't exist there anymore.
So you just can't say, okay, government run health care is over.
What what what do people do then?
I mean, you've you've got there's gotta be some, there's gonna be a doctor's office.
It'd be tough.
That that's this is this is crucial.
This is uh very important.
I wish I had more time.
I'm up against it on the clock here.
We'll be right back.
Thanks much, Matt, for the phone call.
The uh president of the United States is stumbling and foundering badly.
He's now explaining he's gonna pay for all of this by limiting the deductions that people like him, who make more than $250,000 a year are able to take.
I mean, this is right out of the campaign.
This is uh this isn't even elegant.
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