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July 8, 2009 - Rush Limbaugh Program
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July 8, 2009, Wednesday, Hour #1
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Welcome to today's edition of the Rush 24-7 Podcast.
Yes, indeed.
America's Anchor Man is away, and this is your undocumented anchor man, Mark Stein sitting in.
No supporting paperwork whatsoever.
Rush is back on Monday.
Mark Davis is here on Friday.
I believe that's right.
That's right, Mark Davis on Friday.
Mark Belling was here yesterday.
Which mark am I again?
Mark Stein.
That's right.
Mark Stein.
You can get it in any flavor as long as it's Mark.
It's uh it's all Mark to Market.
The EIB network bought a job lot of guest hosts uh called uh Mark.
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Uh uh, but to help you tell us apart, uh I'm the one with the ridiculous accent.
Uh they they make me put it on, believe me, it's hell trying to keep it up for three hours when you're from the Bronx like I am, but I do my best.
Uh but if you notice in the third hour that it starts to wobble, uh well, I drew the short, I drew the short straw, you know, Mark Belling and Mark Davis got a much better deal on the accent front.
But uh Mark Davis will be um in on uh Friday, and it's great to be uh with you.
Um rush back on Monday.
Uh but meantime you got you got me from the uh foreign exchange wing of the Limbaugh Institute of Advanced Conservative Studies.
It's it's a terrific exchange program.
Uh guys like me get to come and study at the Limbaugh Institute.
Uh and in return, Barack Obama uh gets to intern at the uh Yuri Andropov Institute of Medical Technology and Dysentery Studies at Minsk.
Uh we'll be talking about uh talking about health care uh later on uh 1-800-282-2882.
But uh every time I'm here, we have Uyghurs in the news, Uyghurs in the news.
So it's We go Wednesday at the EIB network.
Uh I don't know why.
I d these guys just uh just seem to time it right.
But uh from the Washington Post, Urumqui China.
I love the way China, by the way.
The thing well, the great thing I love about China is it's got cities you've never heard of.
I mean, you hear these places and you think Urumque, uh what is that?
Some like quaint little village up country with a couple of hundred Uyghurs in it, and it turns out to be an industrial city with seventy million people in it, and you've never heard of it.
And China's got China's got tons of these.
So anyway, Urumqui in China.
Chinese President Hu Jintao cancelled plans to attend a major summit in Italy and flew home early Wednesday after reports that chaos and panic had spread throughout the capital of China's far western region.
So who?
Who isn't going to um isn't going to be at this uh G uh what is it, G7?
It was originally the G5, and then they added Canada and Italy, it became the G7, and then they added Russia and it became the G eight, and now China and India and everyone's going along there.
I don't know who you have to be not to be at the G eight summit.
The I mean is Palau there, is Bermuda.
Uh but anyway, who isn't?
Who isn't gonna be there?
If you're wondering who won't be there, it's who.
It's Abbott and Costello.
It's the Abbott and Costello routine upside down.
Who's off first?
He got there, decided he he wasn't gonna stick around, and he flew back.
Who's off first?
Uh because clashes erupted Sunday between the region's Muslim Uyghur minority and the dominant Han.
Boy.
The Han have the upper hand.
You see this ro you've seen the You've seen this routine.
It's happening.
Just take the Abbott and Costello routine, play it backwards.
You'll get this news story for the Washington Post.
Who's off first?
And the Han have the upper hand, which is why the Uyghurs are rioting.
So it's weigher Wednesday at the Excellence in Broadcasting Network, and we will be uh we will be talking about that and other uh foreign issues still uh to come.
And also uh health care.
Uh true we'll be talking about health care a little later, because uh we got to actually put a price tag on uh this thing now, because it's getting nearer, they want to settle it in five weeks.
So we're thought I'd give you a preview of uh tomorrow's health system today.
Uh Richard Fernandez over at Pajamas Media has picked up a couple of stories from the United Kingdom.
From the Daily Mail, a former soldier pulled his own teeth out with a pair of pliers because he could not find a dentist.
Iraq war veteran Ian Boynton could not afford to go private for treatment, so instead took the drastic action to remove thirteen of his teeth that were giving him severe pain.
Now I know what you're saying.
You know, if you're yanking out thirteen of your teeth uh on your own with pliers.
It's easy to get it's easy to get confused.
You know, if you don't get the the uh the narrow pliers, if you get the big wide ones, you accidentally pull out a couple of the good ones.
Well, don't worry because you can try the safe home care solution that nine out of ten government health bureaucrats recommend.
Superglue.
Headline Dentist shortage leads man to super glue own teeth.
This is the story of Gordon Cook, 55.
Quote, he says the super he had a problem with a crown, uh, and he decided that uh it was uh it would be i in he couldn't get a dentist, and it was much easier just to uh take it out with uh using a bit of uh super glue.
And he said, uh where's the where's the thing?
Oh yeah.
He said, uh in the end I just decided to take matters into my own hands.
I had read somewhere that superglue was invented for medical use to bond skin, so I gave it a go.
I tried a few different brands, but the one I use now, which is just called industrial superglue, is the best.
This is this is uh a useful tip uh once Obamacare's uh been introduced.
Uh Superglue do a marvelous job.
You got a problem with the loose tooth, just use the old super glue.
I find um if you're in uh if you're saying in Manchester or in Liverpool, and I assume this works well if you're in Western China and you've got rioting Uyghurs coming down the street at you.
But if you're saying in Manchester or Liverpool, and you're leaving the pub and you jump by a mob of football hooligans and they uh go to punch your teeth out, uh, and you've and you've taken the precaution of supergluing your teeth.
It's just terrific.
Because the poor old soccer hooligan, uh, he can't knock him out.
He just bruises his knuckles, uh and the and the weight uh for uh knuckle bruising surgery now at the Manchester General Hospital is up to three or four years.
So that can cause him real problems.
Uh so I I like the uh I like the whole idea of supergluing your tooth.
And as I said, it may be uh a useful tip if you're if you happen to be visiting Western China and a bunch of rampaging Uyghurs uh come uh come down the street.
I don't want to imply, by the way, that Uyghurs are naturally rampaging all the time.
The ones that uh Barack Obama relocated to Bermuda at your expense.
They're they're out fishing.
They're not they're not gonna be uh knocking out your super glued teeth.
They're just they're just they're just on the beach, they're dancing under the stars, Uyghurs in the night, exchanging glances.
They're they're loving it out there.
Uh in other news.
Uh Senator Al Franken was uh was sworn in.
Uh he uh he took the uh oath of office by placing his hand on the casket of Michael Jackson as Mariah Carey and the Reverend Al Sharpton serenaded him with We Are the World.
Hang on.
That can't be right, can it?
I I gotta stop watching CNN in airports.
Uh we'll we'll also talk uh about stimulus two, stimulus two.
You were probably so stimulated by the first stimulus, you can't possibly believe there could ever be a need for a second stimulus.
But apparently there is.
We didn't we didn't stimulate enough.
Uh we got to dig a much bigger hole and throw far more money uh down it.
So we'll we'll be talking uh about that uh uh a little bit later.
But uh let's go back to that uh the reason that uh that who uh who's off first, President Who decided to get out of Rome.
What's going on in Rome?
Well, it's the uh the so-called G7, G eight, whatever it is these days, uh they're all meeting there.
This is Obama's trip uh abroad.
Uh usually when he goes abroad, he gets rapturous receptions.
Something very odd happened uh in Moscow, and and that he wasn't he wasn't a big hit there.
And effectively uh they gave him a very low-key reception.
They got what they wanted out of him, and he's now uh gone on to uh gone on to Rome.
He was a bit like the Michael Jackson funeral, if you I'm not gonna be Uh looking into the significance of the Michael Jackson funeral in a big way.
But if you did want to make a political point out of it, uh the the they had whatever it was, three and a half thousand cops, is that uh the right number?
Three and a half thousand cops outside the Staples Center, and that was it.
That was the crowd.
Essentially a crowd of police officers gathered for the Michael Jackson memorial and media, and uh they both held each other back and interviewed each other.
Uh, but of real people, uh there uh they were in very short supply.
And that was that was what it was with Obama in uh Moscow, too.
He was supposed to be the darling.
He thought he was going there, uh him him and Michelle would be treated like the darlings and adored by the crowds, and there were no crowds.
Uh they were just uh they were just uh security guards, the Russian TV didn't carry his speech, it was no big deal, it was a very low-key event.
Now he's now he's gone on to the G7, uh, and uh he's gonna try and get them uh to go along with uh his ideas on cap and trade and solving this great problem of the uh alleged global warming, which hasn't been going on this century.
The global warming stopped at the end of the last century.
Uh but you know, it's like that little tax they introduced during the Spanish American War, simply because it ended uh a decade ago is no reason to uh uh to not to uh not to go on spending money for it.
Uh and the the uh this is as exactly the point is the rest of the developed world are moving away from all this nonsense.
Um the the uh they got to it first, they got to Kyoto, they sa a lot of these countries signed Kyoto and then uh actually realized that if you tried to live up to it, you'd go bankrupt.
I think New Zealand was the only country that actually made a serious effort to live up to it, and they did realize it was going to destroy them, uh which is why they suspended their cap and trade law uh last year.
Australia is also uh having second thoughts on all this nonsense.
So just at the uh very point when the rest of the world is beginning to sober up on this stuff, uh Barack Obama comes along and says, no, no, you've got to get with the program.
And of course the the the countries that really matter uh when it comes to the so-called uh controlling of emissions want no part of this at all.
If it's a shame who didn't stick around long enough uh to tell Obama to his face that the Chinese are not going to go in for this emissions regime now, not now, not never, no way, no how.
Same with uh same with the Indians.
And the reason is very simple.
They would like to have the brief intervening stage uh of uh of of material prosperity uh that comes between pre-industrial poverty and post-industrial poverty.
And they will be denied that if uh if uh uh they opted for an Obama cap and trade style regime.
Essentially, then you're telling the Indians and the Chinese, no, you have to be poor in perpetuity.
It's okay for us, you know, we can get uh we we can post-industrial poverty we can manage, because we've got memories.
We knew what it was like before post-inter uh industrial poverty, so we can live on memories.
But they'd like they'd just like to make some of those memories.
As uh is that is that a Michael Jackson uh track?
Uh it ought to be.
But they would just like to make a couple of memories uh before they have to return to to the poverty to which cap and trade uh condemns us.
So if the Chinese and the Indians are not interested in getting into this business, uh then the only reason for us to do it is if we're effectively checking out of the global economy.
If Western nations are truly comm prepared to commit uh economic suicide over this bill.
Uh so we will talk about that, and we will talk about the Obamas abroad and lots more, straight ahead on the EIB network.
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Mark Stein in for Rush on the EIB network.
We go Wednesday.
The president is abroad, and that's always good news, because uh generally speaking, he's uh spending less money when he's uh when he's uh over there.
He's uh he's it was very interesting with uh Putin and Medvedev in uh in Moscow.
Uh essentially he signed this sort of nuclear treaty that may or may not mean anything.
But it was uh uh an a huge uh public relations coup, I think, for uh Putin, because it it i i it it looked to the world like an old-time Cold War summit, uh as if the two superpowers were meeting as equals on equal terms.
Uh and I think in that sense it's deeply dangerous.
Uh Russia is a a uh is the sick man of Europe, basically.
Russia is an almost literally uh diseased nation.
Uh it's uh it's it's got huge demographic problems, it's depopulating, basically because uh Russian men have a life expectancy that's uh uh lower than Bangladeshi men, and that's not uh as uh some kind of tribute to the wonders of the Bangladeshi health system.
It's because uh Russia has these uh terrible pathologies uh in in which its men sort of keel over in their late fifties from a combination of uh heart disease and alcohol and all kinds of other things.
So they're they're actually running out of manpower.
Uh uh two-thirds of Russian babies are aborted.
Uh they have no new there they've got no new Russians.
They won't be able to enforce their border with China.
China's not gonna have to fight a war to get the resource-rich Russian East, it's just gonna be able to walk in there.
Uh Russia is a dying society, and yet Barack Obama gave uh this uh country uh whose decline, whose steep decline uh actually poses a couple of uh severe challenges uh to the United States.
Uh he gave this uh country uh the the the upgrade to full superpower status in this uh in this bizarre summit.
Uh so I think I don't think this was in America's interest to do.
Uh and I think in that sense it's in the rich tradition uh of of problematic uh uh uh Obama visits abroad.
The other thing I find uh I found amazing really is that he he he wound up apologizing.
Now we're used to this, you know, we don't mind this.
Most of the time when he goes abroad and he gives his uh uh apologizing, uh he's only doing it for something that Bush did, or he's doing it, you know, for some uh bit of business that happened a long time ago, slavery or whatever.
So I don't I'm I'm relaxed when he goes uh to Cairo and he apologizes to Islam, or when he goes to uh Africa and he apologizes to slavery, uh, or when he uh goes to France and he uh apologizes for America not being uh as sophisticated as Jacques Chirac and all the rest of it.
I don't mind that.
But what he did, I think this is a stage too far.
When you go uh and you apologize to the Russians for the Cold War, uh which is pretty much uh more or less what he did.
Uh I mean he said he went he went there, uh, and his explanation for the Cold War uh was that it uh uh uh was as follows.
Uh now make no mistake, he said.
Uh like President he was talking to students, like President Medvedev and myself, you're not old enough to have witnessed the darkest hours of the Cold War.
You are the last generation born when the world was divided, he said.
Uh and then within a few short years the world as it was ceased to be.
Now make no mistake, this change did not come from any one nation.
The Cold War reached a conclusion because of the actions of many nations over many years, and because the people of Russia and Eastern Europe stood up and decided that its end would be peaceful.
Now, I don't I as I said I don't mind if he wants to go uh abroad and apologize for this and apologize for that.
But we all know that the last time we had a president like this in the Oval Office, the 1970s, uh the Soviets nearly won the Cold War by default, not because they were competent in any way, uh, but simply because the West was so determined, as represented by Jimmy Carter was so determined to uh lose it.
You you had a period when uh the Soviets were gobbling up little bits of inconsequential real estate all over the world, including right here uh off the uh uh the coast of the United States in uh in Grenada.
Uh uh uh the s essentially what happened, you you might say, well, Grenada doesn't make a lot of difference, uh Afghanistan doesn't make a lot of difference.
Who cares about these places?
But all the movement was one way.
Uh and it took an act uh uh of uh great will uh in the face of the opposition uh of uh not just much of the political class and all the media and all the talkers uh for President Reagan to decide, no, uh we are not gonna lose the Cold War, we are gonna win it.
And what was o uh Barack Obama doing at that time?
There's a very interesting piece in the New York Times.
Very interesting piece.
Would have been much more interesting uh if it had actually come out uh uh earlier, uh, but it didn't.
Uh and instead uh it just came out and said the piece of his he wrote in 1983, uh, in which he'd said uh that he uh was opposed uh to uh not just to uh a missile freeze, uh, but actually wanted something beyond all that.
In fact, he wanted an end to military culture entirely.
In other words, if Obama uh had had his way, uh there would have been no end to the Cold War.
He is the last person who should be going to Moscow and apologizing uh uh or or underplaying uh the role of rare men of real political courage in ending the Cold War.
Mark Stein uh sitting in for Rush on the Rush Limbaugh show, one-eight hundred-282-2882.
More straight ahead.
Great to be with you.
Rush will be back on Monday, 1-800-282-2882.
Uh I mentioned that New York Times uh article uh over the weekend where they they uncovered this uh piece that uh Obama had written in 1983, and Catherine reminded me uh that he quoted the uh the great Rastafarian reggae musician, Peter Tosh.
That's right.
You you you got any Peter Tosh records?
All right, we've got a Peter Tosh expert here.
More more Peter Tosh records than Michael Jackson records.
Oh, well, there we g there we are.
That speaks well for you.
You and Barack.
Um anyway, he was like when you're writing on arms control, you naturally quote the great Rastafarian reggae giant Peter Tosh.
Uh and Obama's complainted this piece is that actually just going for a nuclear freeze is like playing into the militarist hands.
Man, that is that is like Wimpsville stuff, just like having a nuclear freeze.
Uh and and Obama writes, quote, when Peter Tosh sings that everybody's asking for peace, but nobody's asking for justice, one is forced to wonder whether disarmament or arms control issues, severed from economic and political issues, might be another instance of focusing on the symptoms of a problem instead of the disease itself, unquote.
So he's saying to the no nukes crowd, you're this isn't left wing enough.
He's saying you're not going far enough.
And so, like one of the no nukes guys tries to explain it to him gently, and he says that dealing with the disease itself, by which Obama means the military, is like an unrealistic goal, because the guy tells Obama, quote, you're not going to get rid of the military in the near future.
But it what's interesting is that if you read this 1983 article from the New York Times, uh it's actually a very useful guide into his thinking now.
He's out there proposing nuclear freezes uh all uh all over the world.
Uh but he's also recognized uh that there's no point doing that separated from uh w what was it, Peter Tosh says, issues of justice, uh peace and justice, economic justice.
So what he's doing with these cap and trade and the stimulus and all this domestic spending is it will make it impossible for America to have a military with the kind of global reach uh that we've been uh used to uh in the last sixty years.
Because you can't have both.
Uh you can't have socialized health care and cap and trade and all the rest of it, uh, and have uh uh a military the size of the United States, because what pays for the military?
Uh businesses do, companies do, uh taxpayers do.
And if they don't earn enough, and if enough of what they earn is being diverted into uh cap and trade and all this other stuff, uh then at some point something has to give.
And and Barney Frank is quite cheerfully open about this.
What's gonna give is the military.
So uh the Obama administration is finally getting the chance to put into practice now his 1983 uh Peter Tosh view of foreign and domestic policy.
So I would recommend uh you go and get w do you know what song he W this this song line he quotes everybody's asking for peace, but nobody's asking for justice, Catherine.
Do you know what song that's from?
It's good.
Oh, it's called Equal Rights and Justice.
That that's a hit title.
That's great, isn't it?
It's like it's up there with over the rainbow.
You know, yeah, yeah, you can you can dance to it.
I like legalized it is his other big hit.
And uh what would that happen to be about?
Oh okay.
Thank you very much.
It's always good.
Who knew?
Who knew?
You know, th this this is the in-depth analysis you only get from EIB, because anyone can have like a big uh geopolitical foreign policy expert on the stuff, but you gotta have your Peter Tosh expert if you're really gonna make sense of where the Obama administration's going.
Let us go to uh Richmond, Virginia and talk to Scott.
Scott, you're on the Rush Limbaugh show.
Great to talk to you, Mark.
How are you doing today?
I'm doing great.
How are you?
Oh, I wanted to kind of show some matter that I think uh this president needs major oxygen, and he gets this oxygen from these crowds and these events, this pomp and circumstance.
He didn't get it in Russia, and he obviously isn't getting it in Italy, and this is a very, very good sign.
Because these people are dealing with real problems in a real time and don't have time for this type of thing we had out in Los Angeles, and look how that kind of fiddled away, you know what I mean?
Yeah, I think I think you're right that um that uh he he does uh get an adrenaline rush from the love.
He did when he was at uh in Berlin uh last year.
And I mean who wouldn't?
If you're if you're a star and they treat you like a star, it's terrific.
But if you're a star and you think you're a star and they don't treat you like a star, uh and the and the sound you hear is the crickets chirping, which is what happened to him in Russia, uh then I think you're right.
It it does uh it does depress him.
And he actually starts giving these low-key performances like when he he starts rambling and he can't remember where he met his.
Yeah, he can't remember where he was.
And that's great because now we've got these major battles with, you know, cap and trade and tax and kill and health care.
The the Democrats let me ask you, Mark, who else could get out there and draw a crowd?
Harry Reid, Pelosi?
Oh, yeah.
Oh, oh no.
You look, you could put Harry Reed in Yankee Stadium and the crowd would go wild.
No.
Harry Reed and Harry Reed and Nancy Pelosi, that's like that's the celebrity duets album everyone's waiting for.
That would be chipmunk.
Yeah, that's gonna be way bigger than Michael Jackson's memorial.
You wait to see how the uh how the networks cover that one.
No, but you're you that is a serious point, I think, that if you're if you're kind of running on charisma, if if charisma essentially is your fuel uh and it and it and it's no longer cranking up the engine uh, which is what's happening uh overseas and may well start happening here, then you do have issues.
The intr the interesting thing, in the end, Obama i uh Obama just can't just sort of moonwalk across the staple center.
He's not a celebrity.
Uh at a certain point he has to demonstrate effectiveness in governing.
Uh and if that's and if that's uh becomes an issue, then the cool simply becomes tedious and irrelevant.
So I think that that's uh that's a good point, Scott.
Thanks uh thanks a lot for your call.
Uh Scott in uh Richmond, Virginia.
Let's go to Dave in uh Heron Lake, New Mexico.
Dave, you're on the Rush Limbaugh show.
Good morning.
Good morning to you.
I've been listening to this Obama uh, you know, tour, this concert tour that he's on, going to Russia and then uh to Italy, and making deals with uh Russia to uh lower our atomic uh stockpile.
Right.
If he wants to do that, why doesn't he give uh Australia, South Korea, and Japan nuclear warheads so they can protect themselves against North Korea uh, you know, s saber rattling.
Yeah, you you you're you're right.
He's uh he's essentially uh and and the the freeze is uh i isn't entirely meaningless, because what it what it uh when he's talking about this, what what he's proposing in real terms is not to modernize uh America's uh uh uh America's military.
That's that's really what's at issue here.
And that's why the Russians buy into it, because the Russians have got a lot of stuff from the old superpower days lying around, but it's it's all rusting up now.
It's it's it's not the new stuff.
And the advantage that America has had is that its stuff is newer and better.
And he's saying we're not in that game anymore.
We don't want to make newer stuff uh and better stuff.
Uh and he's doing this at a time when nuclearization is a fact of life.
And as you point out, Os Australia would be very glad to have a nuclear deterrent.
South Korea would be very glad to have a nuclear deterrent.
Japan would be very glad to have a nuclear deterrent.
What we're w winding up with is a situation where basket case losers like North Korea uh and uh these uh clapped out mullers at the end of their revolution in Iran, and any friends of theirs who happen to be interested, like Sudan, whom the Iranian president has promised he's gonna give uh the nuclear technology to, you'll have basket case states with nukes at the same time as the President of the United States is telling the world that civilized nations are getting out of the nuclear game.
That is gonna be a uh uh a recipe for uh disaster, Dave.
Doesn't he have to get a ratification from Congress before he signs any treaties with Russia?
Uh I think he does.
I don't think this has I think this is in the nature of a memorandum of agreement.
Uh that it this isn't in this uh in a sense this is a uh sort of photo op uh memorandum uh it's not it's not something that's gonna make any uh changes immediately.
But if you look at what Barney Frank is saying, I don't think there's any doubt that there is is significant there would be significant support for this uh among influential Democrats in uh in Congress.
Dave, thanks very much for your call.
Uh we're talking about Obama abroad, not getting the raves that he used to get when he uh used to go traipsing around the world just a couple of months ago.
1-800-282-2882, more straight ahead on the Rush Limbaugh Show.
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Uh just looking at that Peter Tosh song that uh that Barack Obama quoted all those years ago.
Everybody's talking about peace, no one's crying out for justice.
I don't want peace, I want equal rights and justice.
It's very interesting.
This stuff uh that he was writing in 1983, actually uh uh uh he's still that same guy.
It's it's still his same view of uh of the world.
Uh and um I don't know, when it comes to when it comes to presidents quoting pop songs, uh I liked it when um uh Ronald Reagan quoted uh Nat King Cole uh when he told Colonel Gaddafi to straighten up and fly right.
That was one of my favorites.
The other one I liked was when the Russians said they no longer had the Brezhnev doctrine in Eastern Europe.
They had uh the uh Siddhartra doctrine, you do it your way.
And Dan Quayle replied, uh, looking at the uh vast military forces that the Soviets still had in Eastern Europe, why don't you adopt the Nancy Sidatra doctrine, these boots are made for walking.
Now there were there were there were administration figures quoting pop songs uh for America's enemies uh to to live by.
But when uh when we got a guy quoting Peter Tosh uh and saying that a nuclear freeze isn't enough, we've got to actually demilitarize the thing.
That's that's a different thing.
Let's go to Tom in New York City.
Tom, you're on the Rush Limbaugh Show.
Great to have you with us.
Great, great to be here, and I want to thank you for your for your great writings and everything you do to uh get the word out.
Come um so bear with me a minute.
Okay.
Uh can I make a quick point for the Tea Party Group of New York City?
I'm on the uh Tea Party Committee.
You just mention our website real quick.
I wouldn't mention the I wouldn't mention the website.
They're all uh they're all waving hands at me.
But uh but but but carry on.
Your plugs got your plugs over the airwaves.
Carry on.
Great.
Well, it's uh we're we've got an active group in New York City and uh just tea party New York City and you'll get it.
Okay, okay, okay.
Okay, they're uh they're waving at me about the plug.
So let's let's get on with your point.
What's gonna let's get on with your point.
I think that we're setting into a uh a checkmate uh in in Russia, in that if if Putin gives us generously uh uh a supply route through Russia to support our troops in Afghanistan, uh then we're dependent upon them.
And then Russia can make a move against, say, Georgia and Ukraine, uh and we will be in a very difficult position of responding against that aggression and risk losing our bases at a point where we're at a critical dependency upon them.
Well, now you're you're talking about the uh the uh the bases that uh uh not in Russia proper, but are in uh former Soviet Central Asia and which have been used to uh supply uh y US forces uh in Afghanistan since since basically September 2001.
And that's uh fair and and that's a fair enough point.
But you know, in on September the twelfth, two thousand and one, what happened was, and these were the these, by the way, were not the neocons in the administration.
But guys like Colin Powell and his deputy Richard Armitage, who uh who are the who are the kind of so-called soft moderates in the administration, uh just called up they called up two guys.
They called up Putin and they called up General Musharif in Pakistan.
Uh and uh basically Armitage told General Mushar, if you don't let us do this, it's the end of Pakistan as a sovereign state.
Uh they basically played hardball with the Russians too, and they got the use of those bases in Soviet Central Asia because uh for the first time uh the Russians realized the Americans were serious.
You know, the it what uh credibility doesn't depend on a military arsenal, by the way.
Uh credibility uh uh depends on something far more.
Uh the the difference uh between September the tenth, two thousand and one and September the twelfth, two thousand and one.
I uh on September the tenth, if Colin Powell had had uh had called in and made this request uh to Putin, that he'd have said get lost.
Uh on September the twelfth, uh Putin realized that the Americans meant it and they were gonna do it anyway.
And and the fact of the matter is that Uzbekistan is a sovereign state.
If you want to use a base in Uzbekistan, you can take that up with the Uzbek president.
There's actually something very dangerous uh in allowing now, we're getting on for whatever it is, fifteen, sixteen, seventeen years since the fall of the Soviet Union.
Uh in other words, we're talking about a country that's been a sovereign state for a generation uh in saying, uh, well, look, uh we uh we uh we don't we we're not gonna deal with the Uzbeks direct, we're gonna we're gonna deal with Moscow on this.
We're gonna allow Moscow a veto over this.
Uh so I while I'm very glad that there are supply routes from the north into Afghanistan, I think the idea that this uh you use the that we we we make this a license for Russia to do everything it wants in Georgia and Ukraine and everywhere else is actually very dangerous.
Uh Mark Stein uh sitting in for rush, we've been uh watching the president abroad, uh looking rather sort of punch-drunk and uh and won and listless uh as he's moving from uh Moscow to Rome uh for the for the big summit there.
Uh and uh in a sense uh y you know, overseas travel is great for a uh uh a head of government because it gets you away from all the dreary domestic politics and it gives you the big glamorous photo ops and all the rest of it.
Uh and uh in a sense now, uh Obama can't compete with his own uh expectations, I think.
Uh if you look at what he did as a candidate, that kind of rapturous thing he got in Berlin, where he basically stood up and uh uh and announced himself as a kind of president of the world and an inspiration to young people any uh everywhere, uh you then see him doing these rather d d grubby business-like meetings in Moscow.
And it is amazing how you take the charisma and you take the crowds out of it, uh, and what you get is the sense, uh, as Caroline Glick in the Jerusalem Post calls it, of the post-American world, uh of a world in which America is not showing leadership, and a world in which America puts more pressure on allies,
uh such as uh Israel uh uh and uh uh and tries to accommodate its enemies, uh such as Iran uh and troublemakers like Russia and and other people.
So I think this uh I d I think the the the photo op here has been bad for him uh and the senses of uh American uh diminishment uh abroad.
We'll talk about that and lots more straight ahead.
Mark Stein sitting in for Rush on the Rush Limbaugh Show from the EIB network.
Mark Stein in for Rush.
Let's go quickly to Andy in Brunswick, Georgia.
Andy, you're on the Rush Limbaugh show.
Yes, sir.
Mr. Mark, enjoy your uh when you sit in uh I'm still back with the game show Cake or Death.
That's right.
That was last time.
We can't play cake or death now, because we're we're we're up against the clock.
So uh what was your fifty seconds?
Anyway, uh when you talked about Obama trading our state of the art for uh the rusty uh stuff that the Russians want to get rid of anyway, uh it made me obviously think of uh of Ronald Reagan And and uh uh w you know when he went to the wall, uh the uh the vision it took, the the you know the audacity and hope that it took to say m tear down this wall.
And uh in contrast, I think what Mr. Obama did was tantamount to going out after the battle and shooting the wounded.
That's that's that's right.
I think that's true.
He's like uh it's it's like schmoozing.
It's essentially he's there's no courage uh in in uh in saying this kind of stuff to Russian students, standing at the wall and saying, Mr. Gorbachev tear down this wall did take courage.
And what's interesting to me about that line uh is that the State Department kept taking that line out of the speech and President Reagan uh in all the drafts, President Reagan had to keep putting it back in.
Uh he had to show courage not just against America's enemies, but against accommodationists and appeasers here at home too.
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