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July 1, 2009 - Rush Limbaugh Program
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July 1, 2009, Wednesday, Hour #2
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And greetings to you, music lovers, thrill seekers, conversationalists all across the fruited plain, Rush Limboa and the Excellence in Broadcasting Network, we are here at 800-282-2882.
Email address L Rushball at EIB net.com.
How many of you have been to in your life?
How many of you have been to a ballpark?
Baseball game, a football game, your whole life.
How many times have you gone?
And when you're there, an arena, or you're watching hockey or basketball or what have you?
How many hot dogs have you purchased and eaten over the course of your life?
How many?
Excluding Snerdley is a vegan, but hot dog and uh all this.
It's standard operating procedure.
Yeah, I remember when I was a kid, my uh my dad would take my brother and me up to uh old Sportsman's Park Bush Stadium in St. Louis.
Occupancy was uh or the capacity 30,000 or so, we go up there and watch baseball games always had a Logebox seats right around first base or third base.
My dad had pull, he was a powerful lawyer back when they were okay people.
And uh I remember walking in there, just the aromas of all the hot dogs and the guys there were smoking cigars.
I mean, it was part of the whole thing.
The ambiance consisted of the aromas, and now they're trying to sanitize all this stuff.
I want how many of you who have eaten hot dogs at ballparks or arenas are still alive.
If you're listening, you all are.
Story out of St. Louis.
A new billboard debuting in St. Louis asks for dietary disaster warning labels to be put on hot dogs served at Bush Stadium and other major league baseball stadiums.
Nonprofit advocacy group called the Cancer Project is sponsoring the billboard that debuts today off I-70 in St. Louis County.
The billboard features an image of hot dogs jammed into a cigarette pack labeled unlucky strikes.
The billboard and a letter from a cancer project dietitian to baseball commissioner Bud Sealing claim a link between processed meats and the risk of colorectal cancer.
Now, aside from the details here, can I take you inside the newsroom of the St. Louis Post Dispatch or any other newspaper?
Do you think, with uh all of these budget cutbacks, do you think that they actually sent a reporter out and the reporter on who was it?
It's uh uh well, it's another one of these unsigned AP stories.
Do you think AP actually sent, or a newspaper, actually sent a reporter out, happened to be driving along I-70 and saw this Bill Bor?
I'll guarantee you what happened.
An organization they'd never heard of, the Cancer Project, Santa Fax.
Press release or some such thing.
And of course, since uh the state-run media is oriented toward attacking big, powerful institutions like Bajor League Baseball and the stadiums in which they play.
Oh, what a story here!
Cardinals killing fans with hot dogs.
We need end-of-life warnings.
Or the equivalent, this is just absurd.
You know, the the uh I forget who said this, as one of our founding fathers.
He said that the tyranny of a brutal dictator is not as bad as the tyranny of a bunch of nannies who will not leave you alone, who are trying to save you or improve your life.
The theory is that the dictator thug will occasionally take time off to go on vacation to leave you alone.
But every day you have to put up with new organizations like this, the Cancer Project, or the Center for Science and the Public Interest, banning this or that in movie theaters.
None of it killing anybody.
None of it making anybody sick.
Life expectancy in this country is roaring.
It's just a bunch of people with too much time on their hands who want to force their way of living on you and everybody else.
And they have all the support they want from the media.
This if I was an editor, you know, you want to save the newspaper business, an outfit like this sends you a press release, you throw it away, toss it in the press uh in the in the trash can, and you say, we're devoted to real news here.
We are not going to start schlepping for a bunch of you liberal special interest group wackos who are interested only in denying people their liberty and freedom.
No, just the ops.
You've got to carry the water for these kinds of people.
So, and by the way, once this starts, you remember in 96 when the Sierra Club started targeting SUVs, and I warned you people, I said, it isn't gonna be long before your SUV is going to be thought of as an enemy, and people are gonna set them on fire, they're gonna throw eggs at them, and eventually you're not gonna be able to buy them.
And here when you thought, rush, it's a little extreme, don't you think?
It's never gonna happen.
And where are we today?
The government owns the automobile companies, and they're gonna make sure that SUVs are not made unless they get whatever miles per gallon, in which case they won't be SUVs.
So this kind of stuff never goes away.
So you've got some hap probably two or three people, bored silly with way too much time on their hands, think that they're better and smarter than anybody else and want everybody to live the way they do, if targeted hot dogs.
Get them out of ballparks.
Russia'll never happen.
I mean, it's hot dogs out of ballpark.
No, never, never, no, never.
Let's talk about it in ten years or so.
Five or ten years.
Even snurdly, I guess you don't think they'll succeed with this.
You don't think they'll succeed in getting the hot dogs out of ballparks.
This is the same thing everybody said about the SUVs.
But you know these people, they don't ever stop.
They don't go away.
There's a story in the stack today.
The FDA has an advisory group.
Now, the FDA, by the way, I I need to warn you all of something.
Even if Congress doesn't pass cap and trade, FDA has the authority to implement it.
Because the Supreme Court rendered a decision which said carbon dioxide is a pollutant and gave the government the right to regulate it.
So even if cap and trade doesn't become law as it's written, elements of it can be implemented by fiat from the EPA.
So an advisor, the EPA has you've got to start looking at the EPA folks as politicized as the Justice Department or anything else in this administration.
I mean, this silly uh ban on ZyCam, for example, 130 people in in trumped-up legal cases claim their sense of cell was d snell was destroyed.
You wouldn't believe a number of cases that Zycam entered, had to defend, and was victorious, they were victorious in.
And because ZyCam kept winning matrixes to come, they keep winning the cases, the FDA fights, okay, a sponsor of Limbaugh's will let's zap them.
Now, the FDA advisory group yesterday suggested banning Vicadin and Percocet.
Now, Vicodin and Percocet are painkillers.
They are narcotic, they're opiates, they're derivatives of codeine.
But that's not why the advisory committee recommended they be banned.
They recommended Vicadin and Percoset be banned because they have acetaminophen.
Tylenol, which, as we learned yesterday, is the next target of the FDA because all of these massive thousands and thousands and thousands of cases of liver failure or damage.
Now I'm not denying that acetaminophen can damage the liver, but every drug is metabolized by the liver.
The liver, you know, it's called the liver is important.
The liver is called the liver because the root word is live.
So everything gets metabolized in there.
Now ban Vicodin, and of course a bunch of doctors said, wait, wait, wait, you you just you can't just do this.
I mean pain management, especially in elderly people, we you you you're taking two you you're you're you're guaranteeing suffering for not really because they're painkillers without acetaminophine in them, but they're more powerful.
Um But the point is, here you have a narcotic and you have Tylenol, and this advisory board looks at two and says, We gotta get rid of the Tylenol.
It's just I it it's all of these people trying to micromanage everybody's life under the premise that none of us need ever really die.
None of us really need to die if we if you just give liberals control of our lifestyles while we'll all live and live and live, and nobody will die, and nobody will get sick because we have national health care.
Nationalized medicine and uh and so forth.
So there is the most intricate micromanaging of the American economy and American lifestyles going on, and much of it without legislation.
Obama's czars, payments are now the fine print czar.
Uh these people don't have to get confirmed before the Senate.
Their salaries are unknown.
Obama pays them whatever he wants.
He's their boss.
They have more power than cabinet secretaries do.
This is all extra unconstitutional.
Nobody's.
I mean, people are so afraid of this guy that everybody shuts up.
People are genuinely afraid of whatever retribution might be heading down the uh pike.
Anyway, brief time out.
I know I was going to get to the uh Obama military sound bites.
We'll do that when we come back.
Stay with us.
Be right back.
That quote is from C.S. Lewis.
Uh Levin dug it up.
I've seen it in Tom Sowell pieces as well.
But here it's it's a uh it's a great.
But here's the here's the word-for-word quote of all tyrannies.
A tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most depressive.
It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies.
The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep, his cupidity may at some point be satiated.
But those who torment us for our own good torment us without end, for they do so with the approval of their own conscience.
They will never leave us alone.
They will get hot dogs banned in two to three years.
The media will st you wait.
They get hot dogs manned in two to three years, maybe five at the outside.
Uh because they're doing it for us.
And they think they are good people.
They care.
They are good people, and they are protecting us from ourselves.
They're going to make theory that we never get sick, and that maybe we don't die.
And then they will feel when they're going to go after apple pie, they already have if it's made with trans fats.
Sugar, not long down the pike.
You uh you wait look at tax and coke and Pepsi with sugar in it.
All right.
Here's President Obama.
This, this, this sound, but we played yesterday.
It's uh yesterday afternoon at the White House, bragging about the success of the surge in Iraq.
So much about this offended me, and I'm sure will again right now when we play it.
Those who have tried to pull Iraq into the abyss of disunion and civil war are on the wrong side of history.
Stop the tape.
Re-cue this.
We're going to have to do start-stop.
I'm not going to be able to contain myself, uh...
Throughout this whole thing.
Those who have tried to pull Iraq into the abyss of disunion and civil war are on the wrong side of history.
Um in fact, I think it was Barack Obama who predicted a civil war if we stayed, that it was a civil war, and we had to get out for that reason.
In fact, play number five, let me look at the next page, let me see.
Play soundbite number five, just after the first says Obama February 10th of 2007.
It's time to admit that no amount of American lives can resolve the political disagreement that lies at the heart of someone else's civil war.
That's why I have a plan that will bring our combat troops home by March of 2008.
Let the Iraqis know.
Letting the Iraqis know that we will not be there forever is our last best hope to pressure the Sunni and Shia to come to the table and find peace.
And he was dead wrong about it all.
It was the surge that brought them to the table.
In fact, uh Muki and his boys, Mukta Al-Sadr, uh he rubbed everybody the wrong way.
It was it was uh the the terrorists themselves united the Shia and the Sunni.
And had we not been there to help them, there wouldn't have been any unity and there would have been civil war.
Barack Obama's policies would have given us the abyss of the civil war.
And now here he is, claiming credit for having avoided that.
Let's go to the top of audio soundbite number seven again.
Those who have tried to pull Iraq into the abyss of disunion and civil war are on the wrong side of history.
Finally, the very fact that Iraqis are celebrating this day is a testament to the courage, the capability, and commitment of every single American who has served in Iraq.
Stop the tape.
This is Barack Obama, who led from the United States Senate his party into doing everything he could to ensure the defeat of the U.S. military.
This man did not believe what General Petraeus was going to say about how the surge was working.
Petraeus came up and they accused him of lying about the success of it, being in league with President Bush to lie to the Senate and the American people and the House about this.
They said there was no way we could win, Harry Reed.
This war is lost.
This war is over.
No way we could win.
And here President Obama, the very fact that the Iran, these are the people that were accusing our military men of rape.
John Mertha of believing the charges of rape in Hadithah.
This party, the Democrat Party was doing everything it could to impugn and dishonor members of the U.S. military, even going so far, ladies and gentlemen.
If you remember, as to impugn the fact they even joined.
Oh, yeah, that's not their, they're not patriots, said a few Democrats.
They're not patriots.
No, no, no, no.
They're joint because they got no other options.
Why the economy stinks, they said in 2003, 2004.
The economy stinks.
They got no educational opportunities.
They come from hazyed hick little towns in the South and the Southwest.
The army's their only option.
It was all lies.
But even if, let's just say for a moment that it was true, why impugn people for joining less than one percent of our population will volunteer at time of war to join the U.S. military.
People need to be honored.
I don't care what their motivation for joining.
But the Democrat Party couldn't bring itself to do that.
And now our president who led that party in opposition to victory is up there trying to claim credit for something that he has no right to.
He didn't do one thing.
He didn't, well, he voted for the spending.
There's a little contradictory things here.
Because they didn't want to be responsible for the defeat that they were trying to secure.
Here's more of this bite.
That's worth applauding.
Through tour after tour of duty, our troops have overcome every obstacle to explain you this precious opportunity to the Iraqi people.
We've made important progress in supporting a sovereign, stable, and self-reliant Iraq.
And everyone who served there, both in uniform as well as our civilians, deserves our thanks.
Cut five again, please.
Cut five.
It's time to admit that no amount of American lives can resolve the political disagreement that lies at the heart of someone else's civil war.
Stop the tape.
So you just heard him say we've made progress, important progress in supporting a sovereign, stable suffrage.
You didn't support a sovereign, stable, self-reliant Iraq.
You said it was impossible, Mr. President.
You said it couldn't happen.
You said it was a civil war.
You said the surge wouldn't work.
Now the PS that is his thoughts.
A flashback to April 27th, 2007, Columbia, South Carolina at Congressman Jim Cleburn's annual fish fry.
Senator Joe Biden mingling with audience members.
An unidentified audience member says when he, the president, when he kills that bill on the first, what's going to be the next version of the bill that you're going to send him?
Firstly man going to do when he vetoes that bill is not going to take out that money for those MRAPs, those vehicles that will save lives over there.
The idea we're not, I got to keep going with idea.
We're not building these new Humvees with a B-shaped thing.
It's just wrap, man.
Kits buying, don't have to die.
The second thing is we're gonna swept upon his throat.
He's talking about the surge.
This was Joe Biden, April 27, 2007.
The idea we're not building those new humvees or the V-shaped thing is just crap, man.
Kids are dying.
Don't have to die.
Second thing is we're gonna shove it down his throat.
He was asked when the president kills that bill on the first.
He was talking about the surgeon, the surge.
We're gonna shove it down his throat.
That's Joe Biden, who now is the vice president of the United States, as his party now tries to claim victory.
In Iraq.
All predicted, by the way.
Welcome back.
L. Rushball.
Talent on loan from God.
By the way, in case you missed this, this is from Bloomberg News.
India, the nation of India, will not accept any emission reduction target, period.
This is a non-negotiable stand.
India is not going to reduce its emissions in IOTA.
And by the way, neither will the ChICOM, and neither will anybody else.
Only we are going to do this.
And some of these Western European socialist democracies will do so.
You know why?
They want growth.
They want economic growth.
They don't want economic paralysis and shrinkage from the Wall Street Journal.
Defended her plan to cut taxes.
Despite the country's soaring budget deficit, as she introduced her conservative alliances manifesto ahead of national elections in September.
So here's a foreign leader running for re-election September.
What's she doing?
Cutting taxes.
She wants growth.
She says it would be wrong not to do what's right and necessary for growth.
And so prevent ourselves emerging quickly from this crisis.
In the old days, Germany, France, the UK, they'd wait around for us to do the right thing and uh get in our slipstream and follow us.
They can't wait for us to do the right thing because we aren't doing the right thing.
President Obama.
You know, this, you know, I offered a bipartisan stimulus plan in a Wall Street Journal.
Uh back in uh September.
It might have been uh January, might have been early February.
But it basically was this.
Let's use the election returns.
Okay, you got 53% of the vote.
You're gonna spend a trillion dollars on your stimulus.
Fine, you get it, you get 530 billion of the stimulus.
Do whatever you want with it.
I get 470.
My party gets 470 billion, and I'm gonna cut taxes with it.
And we'll see.
We'll see which one works.
Of course, it was rejected.
We are now just with what's on the books, and this number is always smaller than what reality turns out to be.
Projected budget deficits over the next 10 years, 10 to 12 trillion dollars.
Two trillion dollars a year this year alone.
And what are we getting for it?
Zip zero nada.
We've been stimulating and stimulating and stimulating for a year almost.
We're getting nothing for it.
Well, yeah, we're getting change.
We're getting change.
We've destroyed a robust economy.
Now look, all Obama would have to do, if he is serious when he says he wants economic growth.
All he would have to do, run the math on this.
A three-year tax holiday, federal tax holiday for all tax filers.
For all businesses, all individuals.
Three-year total, not just capital gains, three-year total tax holiday.
The deficit created by that would be much worse or much less than ten trillion dollars.
Because this would cause economic growth to spiral out of control with you, you you just sunset taxes for three years, and you watch what happens.
But that's not what Obama wants.
Now, it's an impractic.
I illustrate this for the math aspect of it.
It would never happen because once they give us a tax holiday, they'd Never be able to reinstitute them.
And I but cut them.
Cut them severely and get out of the way.
But Obama doesn't want the private sector recovering.
He wants government recovering and getting the credit for whatever recovery happens in the private sector.
All right, to the phones.
People have been waiting patiently since even before the program began.
Start in Western Kentucky with Doug.
Thank you, sir.
Great to have you here with us.
Hi, Rush.
Thank you.
I uh the uh cap and trade and the insanity of the alternate energy, my blood just boils.
It's very difficult to talk about it.
It's uh the lie I heard you mention the mythology of a new energy source, and I just can't agree more.
It's just totally completely insane.
They thought that uh they're gonna replace our oil supply with some unheard of, unthought of, uh yet to be found source.
And here is the uh the outcome of that is uh here's the here's the situation.
And roughly in the 1920s, it was basically 70% of the population was rural.
They lived agrarian or very close to it.
In 2009, it's three percent.
And that whole difference is made up with oil.
You take oil out of that picture at a cost or supply or anything happened to that, and and you can, I think any one of your listeners that will stop and think about it, can figure out the writing on the wall.
It's it's extremely dangerous.
It's just unbelievably reckless to be fooling around and lying to the whole country about this brand new energy source.
There's nothing there.
It's insane.
It's it's absolutely what cause your hair on the back of the next one.
You you you you just said something here that we we can't accept as standard yet, and that is everybody in the audience understands how bad this is.
I don't know.
I know.
Now maybe maybe in this audience we can see.
Your audience.
Your audience, yes, sir, your audience.
But around but around the country, uh, you know, I don't think we've reached that point.
Oh, no, you're I'm sorry, I meant your audience.
Only your audience.
I've tried tried 10,000 times to get to your audience.
Ancillary unintended consequences of something like this.
You're right on the money.
Food shortages.
Higher prices on everything.
Energy, you you raise prices on energy, and you're raising prices on everything.
And that's going to lead to food shortages and it's just it's it's gonna be a debacle.
It's but it's a crisis that they won't want to waste.
By the way, from the Financial Times, I dug this out in the midst of show prep the other night when it was up late from uh May 13th.
Solar power will not be able to compete with conventional energy until there is a breath a breakthrough in the technology, according to the CEO of British petroleum.
In a further sign of British petroleum's move away from renewables back toward oil and gas.
What BP did, now I realize, by the way, let me say this at the outset.
I realize even some of you are going to think, ah, this is big oil, a big oil CEO, and yes, he made a big show of going into renewables, and now he's saying he can't be done.
It's all lies.
You have been led to believe it.
Every CEO lies, every big oil executive is a liar, and they're involved in a great conspiracy.
Uh keep your gasoline prices up and so forth.
I don't think that's the case here.
I think big oil is like anybody else.
They live and die on their public image.
Thankfully, I don't.
I wouldn't know how to deal with that.
I would drive me insane if every waking moment I had to be concerned what people think of me.
But these companies, General Electric, all this go green this, go green that, they're not doing it because they believe it.
They think you've bought into it.
They're just trying to relate to you as a customer to make you think they care so that you buy their products.
And the BP guy did the same.
Okay, well, we've got to look into these renewables.
We gotta wait if that's where energy's headed.
And by the way, these executives know something or two about dealing with government.
If the government's gonna mandate something's gonna go in a certain direction, you don't fight them, you go there.
Uh and and because they have all kinds of power over you.
So dealing with the mob.
Don Corleone says we're gonna move in, we're gonna start doing narcotics.
Okay, okay, we'll do narcotics.
So the British petroleum looked into solar.
They have invested hundreds of millions of dollars in making solar cells and components, but in the past six months.
British petroleum has been closing factories around the world.
They announced a sharp cut in its investment in alternative energies like solar.
They put 1.4 billion in it last year.
They're gonna cut it back to uh uh one billion dollars this year.
They're still gonna put a billion in, they're cutting back.
It ain't working.
Tony Hayward, the chief executive of BP, this is back in May 13th, uh, told a conference in California, I think solar's probably the most challenged of all of BP's alternative energy interests.
He said it's not gonna make the transition to be competitive with more conventional power.
The gap is just too big.
For solar power to make a breakthrough, there has to be a step change in technology, he said.
And he's right.
And that is not something that is decreed by anybody in Washington.
Now, in this stupid cap and trade bill, remember they've got these ten little dangling carrots.
They're going to award prizes.
Let me show you how silly this is.
They're going to award prizes to the first person who can invent a car to get 70 miles to the gallon that doesn't cost any more than a car today.
Now, I don't know what the prize is, it isn't stated.
But if you do that, you get far richer getting a patent on it than accepting some stupid little one-time prize from Barack Obama.
And the other items on this list were about as sensible as first person that can make a human being fly like Superman will get a prize.
I mean, that's how your response.
They the government does not dictate.
Here you've got a man in the energy business saying, we we are so far away from this, there needs to be a step change in technology, meaning we've got to make a geometrical progression forward.
What we know now to what we're going to need to know and be able to do.
British Petroleum has uh has strongly criticized, uh, been strongly criticized by environmentalist wackos for oh, by the way, grab uh born free.
We we've got a polar bear update today, uh, and we got an animal rights combo animal rights uh environmentals wacko update.
VP strongly criticized uh uh for environment uh campaigners by them for what they see as an attempt to greenwash uh exaggerating its environmental credentials.
So the environmentalist whackers saying, you didn't really try.
You're just making this all up.
You don't see any environmentalist wackos investing billions into this, do you?
You see government awarding grants to a bunch of smart people figured out this is a great way to steal money without ever having to really accomplish anything.
As long as they're trying, Mr. Limbaugh, as long as they're trying, that's what counts the effort, Mr. Limbo.
No, no, no, no.
The intentions don't matter, the effort, it's the results, and there aren't going to be any.
After billions, trillions, whatever has been, there aren't going to be any.
Lord Brown in the UK said the beyond petroleum slogan that was adopted by Lord Brown has been retained by BP, but uh refined to uh make clear that it doesn't mean we're abandoning oil and gas.
So they got to be worried about their stockholders here, too.
And and uh the previous CEO and the current CEO, they came up with this beyond petroleum.
We're gonna energy company in the future.
Well, there is no beyond petroleum.
And now they're having to do a PR campaign to show that they're gonna stick with oil and gas so that their stockholders and other investors don't think that they've made a wrong business decision.
This is such a let me take a break.
Now let me illustrate for you, ladies and gentlemen.
Just how silly this alternative energy bonanza really is.
I am holding here a story from uh the UK.
It's uh it's uh it's uh it's uh I don't know what it reg hardware, it's uh it's a hardware store.
It's a doesn't matter.
It's it's devoted here to alternative energies.
Here's the headline.
Chickens could power hydrogen cars.
This is how ridiculous.
Wait, not chickens.
Let me let me read the lead.
A team of university scientists have claimed that the future of automotive hydrogen storage lies in birds, or to be precise, chickens.
The secret lies in chicken feathers.
According to Dr. Richard Wool, Presser of Professor of Chemical Engineering at the University of Delaware and the ability, chicken's ability to absorb high amounts of hydrogen when specially treated.
So here we have this.
We're looking at chicken feathers as a source of alternative fuels.
And by the way, more food taken away from the food supply.
As corn has been taken away from the food supply.
You want to eat a chicken that's been dosed up with hydrogen all over the place just to make sure its feathers soak up?
You talk about organic, don't give me this organic again, and they say you're gonna go out and eat all this chicken that's been dosed up and overdosed with hydrogen.
Next thing hydrogen's gonna be a pollutant after carbon dioxide.
Anyway, there's also a group working at little industry working on using chicken litter as a source of energy.
That's clucking brilliant, is it not?
Clucking brilliant.
This is where we are headed, folks.
This is the stuff that we're gonna spend gazillions and gazillions of dollars on.
It's an update.
We gotta go back to the grooveyard of forgotten favorites, the archives combo animal rights update and environmentalist wacko update here.
The vocal portrayal, Andy Williams.
Animals not happy today.
Yesterday we're kind of docile during the update.
Animals fighting back.
It's not a little squawking we hear out there in the jungle.
Andy Williams.
And Born Free.
It's a combo animal rights.
Environmentalist wacko update.
Now, yesterday we told you that the polar bear population has actually doubled in the last 50 years.
Everybody believes, or enough people believe, because of Al Gore's lying, stinking movie, that the polar bears are dying off.
And especially kids believe it.
It's not true.
The polar bear population is growing, and in fact, people are saying we might need to cull some of them in certain areas because they're posing danger.
So the update we have of UK telegraph today, a polar bear expert, Mitchell Taylor, who has studied the animals for 30 years, has been barred from participating in a global warming conference.
Mitchell Taylor has studied polar bears for 30 years.
He was told his views are extremely unhelpful.
Global warming is a political issue.
Wait a minute, the science here is not what you got.
Shut up.
And they suppressed the report.
So now the polar bear expert has been forced to shut up and go away, leaving Al Gore in control as the polar bear expert.
We'll be back.
President Obama is in the midst of or just finished a uh a town meeting out in Virginia on health care.
And I watched a little bit of it here, and the audience looked like the last place they wanted to be the people they usually put behind the president, these young eager beavers smiling, got all this.
These people looked bored, sick.
We got audio coming up of Helen Thomas and Chip Reed giving Robert Gibbs the biggest amount of grief over a staged thing this town meeting was.
I haven't heard it yet.
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