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May 18, 2009 - Rush Limbaugh Program
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May 18, 2009, Monday, Hour #2
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Another New Yorker is going to leave the state because of high taxes.
This is from the Buffalo News.
I think it's the Buffalo News.
Ending any speculation about another possible run for governor, Rochester businessman and Saber zoner, the Buffalo Sabres owner, Thomas Galasano said Thursday he's going to be moving his legal residence to Florida to escape New York State taxes.
Gallisano told a gathering of Rochester business executives he will remain as owner of the Buffalo Sabres, but he is fleeing the Empire State to avoid paying $13,000 a day in state income taxes.
Mr. Galisano.
Now remember when I announced I was leaving, the mayor of New York at a press conference, or in response to reporters' question.
Governor, governor, governor of New York, right?
If I'd have known that Limbaugh would leave, I would have raised taxes even sooner.
Mr. Galisano, a word of advice.
You better sell the sabers.
If you hold on to an asset in New York, you are going to be hounded and harassed.
I've told you I'm in the middle of a New York State audit for the last three years.
I've been audited every year in New York since I moved out.
The last three years, 05, 06, and 07, and I just got another request for documents that is the most outrageous form of harassment.
I've already proved to them 14 different ways.
Where I have been in this country every day for the last three years.
Fourteen different ways.
They have asked for things.
They it's just, it's it's it's nothing more than pure political harassment now.
And Mr. Galasano, I'm telling you that you're gonna get the same.
I I'm convinced that they've got a division in Albany that focuses exclusively on people who leave the state and move to states with no income tax.
You think he's paying $13,000 a day.
I wish my bill was that cheap.
The days that I work there.
That's just it's and I don't even I do not live there.
So uh Mr. Galasano, you need to call me before you make this move.
Because had I known what uh I know now, when I did it, I would have done things a little differently.
I mean, I I even for the first three years I left New York, I wrote him nice letters.
I'm sorry, I'm not filing a return this year because I have moved.
And I didn't hear from them for five years.
It was 2002, and they audited 1997 to 2002.
They were demanding X gazillions worth of dollars, penalties and interest for non-payment of taxes.
It went so far as they wanted to visit both of my residences to see which one was actually the more lived in.
That's nothing that's happening to me.
It hasn't happened to anybody else.
Um, I don't know.
I I've I've I I know people that get federally audited every year.
Uh a lot of people who claim a home office.
And I don't even do that, though I could.
Uh I it's just amazing.
So here's here's another one, Levi.
And the Wall Street Journal uh has a column today.
Uh gotta find it here real quickly.
It's by Steve Moore.
And somebody else.
I thought I put it in conjunction with the Galasano story.
I know it's real close here.
About raise taxes and have people move out.
Well, I'll find it here.
But it's evidence of how people, businesses all over the country, locate away from, they move away from high-tax locations, cities and states, uh, to conduct business because it just it it makes no financial sense to do so.
It becomes harassment, and it becomes uh it becomes punitive.
Let's see.
just pull out the GM bankruptcy thing.
Oh, yeah.
I had I got a note.
Brian Jennings, uh major, major player in talk radio is a broadcast consultant, has been a um has been a uh program director in uh in talk radio for many years, has a book out about the fairness doctrine and how uh the Obama administration of Democrats are actually going to go about censoring media opponents.
By the way, the name of his book is Censorship, The Threat to Silence Talk Radio, the new fairness doctrine exposed Brian Jennings.
It's been out a couple weeks and it's available at uh at Amazon.com, but he has lived in in uh Oregon for a number of years, knows some people there, and I got uh I got a note from him.
He knows some people that own a Dodge dealership, a Chrysler dealership in Portland that has been shut down.
It's one of the 3300 Chrysler dealerships that have been shut down.
With the forced closure of his dealership, this man now will be forced into complete bankruptcy.
This man who owned the dealership and his father owned 12.5 million dollars in real estate in downtown Portland, and with the fact that Chrysler won't take back the inventory.
We we had a call last week.
What's gonna happen to all the inventory on the lot?
Chrysler will not take it back.
So the dealers have to absorb all that inventory and report it as a loss because the dealership's gonna be shut down, they're not gonna be able to sell it.
Uh just they've been wiped out.
This dealership has been wiped out not by Chrysler, but by President Obama and by his car czar Steve Ratner.
Now, Steve Ratner is in the news today.
He's a high finance guy of New York City, he's a good friend of uh that little pinch Schultzberger at the New York Times.
Steve Ratner is building a mega mega mansion on Martha's Vineyard.
$15 million mega mansion.
Mega mansions owned by anybody other than the Kennedys are frowned on on Martha's Vineyard, and he doesn't care.
Now, this is the Carzar guy.
This is the guy who's in charge of designing cars that nobody's gonna want to buy, environmentally friendly cars, but this is a guy who's gonna go ahead and build a giant monstrosity.
Now, as you know, I think people ought to build whatever they can pay for, use whatever they can pay for, but this guy is one of the ultimate hypocrites because this is a guy, as Obama's cars are, is putting dealers out of business, is going to be participating in the design of cars that are supposedly eco-friendly, so he's a hypocrite.
He's gonna go ahead and live what he calls a wasteful lifestyle himself, while enforcing on everybody else restrictions in uh in automobiles and uh and other aspects of their of their lives that uh it just it's it's much more the same uh with with liberalism, the hypocrisy running amok.
Business Week has a story here on the great ethanol scam.
Yeah, I see all these things, too late to do anything about it, knew it before it happened, it was gonna be.
Not only is ethanol proving to be a dud as a fuel substitute, there's increasing evidence that it's destroying engines in large numbers.
All of this is not news to us.
We have reported this over the past six months or so.
Yale Professor Harold Hibbert, ethanol promoter, 1925, said does the average citizen understand what this means?
In from 10 to 20 years, this country will be dependent entirely upon outside sources for a supply of liquid fuels, paying out vast sums yearly in order to obtain supplies of crude from Mexico, Russia, and Persia.
Now, what's I mean, that's 1925.
So the same Scare tactic has been used practically since the discovery of oil.
And the dirty little secret is we have more than we need right here on our own property.
We just won't go get it.
We are not allowed to drill.
This dependency on foreign oil is a ruse that has been used by people to advance other economic agendas to their own selfish personal benefit or political benefit.
More than one major transportation-based industry in America, besides Detroit, is on the ropes for the fourth time in our history.
The ethanol industry has come undone and is quickly failing nationally.
Now this is a business week, and business week is like most of the rest of the media, extremely far left, even though they're business journalists.
Of course, it's one thing when Detroit collapsed with the economy.
After all, that's a truly free market enterprise.
The economy hasn't been good, but the fact that the ethanol industry is going bankrupt when the only reason we use this additive is a massive government mandate is outrageous at best.
Then again, the ethanol lobby and refiners have a solution to ethanol's failure in America.
Hire retired General Wesley Clark as your point man and lobby the government to increase the amount of ethanol in our fuel to 15%.
The problems with that proposition are real, unlike ethanol's benefits.
It goes on to describe how using ethanol creates more smog than using regular gas.
The EPA's own attorneys had to admit that fact in front of the justices providing uh presiding over the Third Circuit Court of Appeals in 1995.
And yet we went ahead with this.
For obvious reasons.
All fuels, Business Week magazine says here, all fuels laced with ethanol reduce the car's fuel efficiency.
The E 85 blend drops gas mileage between 30 and 40 percent, depending on whether you use the EPA's fuel mileage standards or those of the Department of Energy.
The new push to get a 15% ethanol mandate out of Washington is simply to restore profitability to a failed industry.
And of course, to secure votes from a sector of the agricultural community, as it were.
Brief time out, folks, sit back.
Your calls are next after this.
All right, to the phones we go, as promised, that we're gonna start in Dubuque, Iowa.
This is Colleen.
Great to have you here, Colleen.
Thank you very much for waiting.
Thank you for taking my call.
Yes.
I just wanted to say that we took a busload of people from Dubuque to Notre Dame yesterday to join in with the pro-life students who are having an alternative prayer service at the Gorado.
And it was a beautiful experience, a very prayerful spirit, very peaceful.
And in fact, when the priest started the announcements, he said my first notes say to calm down the crowd, and everybody chuckled because we were all very calm and prayerful.
And my point was to say, you know, he talks about healing divisions that have occurred, but the fact is he's the cause of division, and he's the cause of why those graduating seniors were not at that commencement, and why so many Catholics are.
Well, no, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, just a second.
I know what you mean, and I agree with you that Barack Obama is a divisive guy.
I think Barack Obama's presiding over the most split partisan country we've had in a long time.
But look, all he got was an invitation.
You really, you really need to look at Notre Dame, Colleen, and figure out what happened there.
Now, I know they've got a tradition of inviting presidents to commencement speeches, but 30 years ago this wouldn't have happened.
Well, they also have a history of dissent.
You know, one of the favorite people for the media to go to is Father Richard McBride, who's on their theology staff there, and he's a well-known dissenter.
So they also have a long history of dissent.
Well, yeah, but but I mean i it long time ago, this this this well, actually not that long ago.
This this an invitation to this person uh with these kind of beliefs would not have been extended.
But you but you have to ask what's happened in Notre Dame.
I mean, uh Notre Dame is a university.
It's like every other university.
It's been overrun by the left.
We know that that uh the Catholic Church, religion in general, has a bunch of leftist theologians.
We know that there is a war in the Catholic Church for the church to moderate and modify what it believes.
I've I've remembered hearing this my whole life.
There are people who believe the church must change to accommodate the um the cyclical mores of the culture of the moment.
Just like the mainline Protestant churches have done and have lost membership and are sinking fast.
Well, that's that's not that that's not why they want that's not what they want the church to moderate.
They're not they're not trying to actually grow the church.
They're trying to excuse themselves.
They don't they don't want to have to adhere.
I mean, the church is the church.
I mean, you you you find a religion, it's faith, you you you you ascribe to it, and you go to it because it doesn't change.
It's always there.
If a church, if a religion is going to change itself to stay in line with the congregation every six months or every year, is not going to become a church anymore.
It's going to become a you know a social hall.
Amen.
Our traditions go back two thousand years.
Exactly.
So I'm Obama, if I were him, I would have gone too.
What a political opportunity here to ram it down everybody's throat.
I don't you don't blame Obama here.
He's the president, he got an invitation.
It's what it's a it's a tradition.
The real the real question to me is is what's happened in Notre Dame over all these years.
And it's been slow, and it's it's it's crept up on uh on people, but it's there.
I mean, this is good illustration of the creeping liberalism throughout institutions that once people thought were impenetrable.
But they're everywhere.
They're everywhere.
It's not because they're trying to grow these institutions, they're trying to water them down on purpose so that they can blur the lines between what's right and wrong.
They don't want they don't want judgmentalism to be judged by anybody, particularly a religion.
Anyway, Colleen, thanks much.
I appreciate the call.
This is Catherine in Baltimore, you're next on the EIB network.
Hello.
Hello, Rush.
I wanted to make a point about the Notre Dame Obama speaking at Notre Dame, and and it ties in beautifully with the political art of seduction you were talking about.
Low art, the low art of political seduction.
The low art of political seduction and um the fact that the you know people end up voting against their own interests.
And it came with when I heard that the students were chanting yes we can at him.
And uh it it horrified me that that this education, this institution of education, that they're idiotic enough to to not realize that one of the Catholic principles is individualism, and he is all about the collective, not the individual.
This goes uh not only when you're in the womb, when you're outside of the womb, he wants to lump us all together, and he wants to ration education and health care.
And there was a uh the media asked one of the adults at the campus what she thought about Obama coming and speaking, and she thought it was wonderful while she's against abortion.
She understands that Obama is pro-Catholic principles of education and health care for all, but it it that's not what he's about at all.
And it's that the way he speaks, that he seduces people into believing what is not true.
Well, that's exactly right.
That was my point at the top of the program.
Morality is now immoral.
War is peace.
Uh all of these uh all of all of these things that you thought you knew.
We're all scratching our heads as everybody's applauding Obama here.
Well, why would it but you have to understand?
I I'm not surprised that young skulls full of mush uh would be among the first to be seduced by this guy.
After all, when you're young is when you're an idealist.
You know, and in addition, all the abortionist stuff, Obama again, he he we went through the same rigor he went through at Arizona State, in which he told these students don't amount to anything.
Don't follow the in fact he he used the word acquisitiveness.
He he condemned being acquisitive.
Now do you does it what do you think acquisitive means?
When you th this a lot of people uh I think confuse the definition of acquisitive, and they think, well, d don't be curious.
That's not what acquisitive means.
Acquisitive, the root word is acquire.
He was telling them, don't try to acquire a lot.
Reject the formulas of the past and be different.
Don't seek.
He actually used the word self-interest yesterday in a condemnatory way.
He said self-interest has led to immorality and a whole lot of rotten things.
And he told these students to shed their self-interest when in fact it is self-interest that propels every achievement.
Self-interest achieves or propels every success.
Without self-interest, you aren't going to be any kind of a success whatsoever.
And then he was telling you, give back.
Give back all these college graduates, give back, give back what?
They've got nothing to give back.
They haven't acquired anything yet.
The things they do have been given to them.
Everything by their overindulgent baby boomer mommies and daddies.
Now when they can go out and produce and earn money so they can repay what they've been given.
Obama's trying to tell them, don't do that.
Don't give back.
Go back and give back by working in a nonprofit or some such thing.
It's convoluted.
By the way, I I hate this whole concept of giving back anyway.
That somehow it is the duty of the successful to give back.
This is Walter Williams, uh an occasional guest host on this program, has it exactly right on this whole notion of giving back.
The only people need to give anything back are the thieves among us.
The thieves and the criminals, the people who've taken things that which are not theirs.
They're the ones that need to give back.
What in the world does Bill Gates need to give back?
How many millionaires does he created?
How many jobs has he created?
And he I know he has his big foundation and he gives away a lot of money.
But this notion of giving back is so convoluted.
Because Obama talking to a bunch of college graduates who don't have anything yet and telling them to give back.
What's to give back?
The only thing they have is what they have been given by their parents.
And by definition, they haven't earned it.
So when they graduate, at that very moment when they are now supposedly prepared to go out and produce, achieve, accomplish, and earn money so that they quote unquote can give back.
He had people like Obama telling him, no, no, no, don't do any of that.
You go work for the government or you go work for a nonprofit.
And that's how you give.
Give back for what?
Well, they're good fortune, Mr. Limbaugh.
These people who graduate from Notre Dame and other big universities, Mr. Limbaugh, have been extremely fortunate and they're a winners of life lottery.
It's time to pay it back.
It's time to give what?
give back.
This whole notion of giving something back is rooted in the belief that what are you Whatever you have is somehow ill-gotten.
You've cheated, lied, or steal to get it, or that you're not entitled to it.
And so you need to give back.
And so everybody people melt over that.
Oh, yeah, the whole concept of giving back.
When people don't even have the uh foggiest idea what genuine contributions are to society.
I mentioned a moment ago this piece in the Wall Street Journal, it's my art laugher in Stephen Moore.
And this is uh this is an offshoot here of the PEEP of the piece in the ball at Buffalo News.
Thomas Galasano leaving New York to escape income taxes, state income taxes says he's paying $13,000 a day in state income taxes in New York.
So he's leaving.
I told him to call me before you do, because some steps you have to take if you're gonna do this, because they're gonna harass you, Mr. Gallasano.
They're gonna find you, they're gonna harass you, and they're gonna pretend that you are lying to them that you're still a resident no matter where you live.
And it's a it's it's a it's a no win.
if you hold on to an asset there like a house, if you hold on to Buffalo Sabres, which he owns, as far as they're concerned, you're just leaving to avoid taxes, you're not moving.
So Art Laffer and Stephen Moore with a piece in the Wall Street Journal today, soak the rich, lose the rich.
With states facing nearly a hundred billion dollars in combined budget deficits this year.
We are seeing more governors than ever proposing the Barack Obama solution to balancing the budget, soak the rich.
Lawmakers in California, Connecticut, Delaware, Illinois, Minnesota, New Jersey, New York, and Oregon, want to raise income taxes on the top one percent or two percent or five percent of their citizens.
New Illinois Governor Patrick Quinn wants a 50% increase in the income tax rate on the wealthy because this is the fair way, he says, to close his state's gaping deficit.
Mr. Quinn and other tax raising governors have been emboldened by recent studies by left-wing groups like the Center for Budget and Policy Priorities that suggest that tax increases, particularly tax increases on higher income families, may be the best available option.
A recent letter to New York Governor David Patterson signed by 100 economists, advises the Empire State to raise taxes for high income families right away.
But here's the problem.
For states that want to pry more money out of the wallets of rich people, it never works.
Because people, investment capital, and businesses are mobile.
They can leave tax unfriendly states and they can move to tax-friendly states.
And the evidence that we discovered in our new study for the American Legislative Exchange Council, rich states poor states, we published it in March, shows that Americans are more sensitive to high taxes than ever before.
The tax differential between low tax and high-tax states is widening, meaning that a relocation from a high-tax state California or Ohio to no income tax Texas or Tennessee is all the more financially profitable, both in terms of lower tax bills and more job opportunities.
And these guys, Steve Moore and Art Laugher.
They updated some research from Richard Vetter at Ohio University.
They found that from 1998 to 2007, more than, and get this statistic here, folks.
1998, 2007.
More than 1,100 people every day, including Sundays and holidays, moved from the nine highest income tax states such as California, New Jersey, New York, and Ohio, and relocated mostly to the nine tax haven states with no income tax, including Florida, Nevada, New Hampshire, and Texas.
We also found that over these same years, the no income tax states created 89% more jobs.
They had 32% faster personal income growth than their high tax counterparts.
Did the greater prosperity in low tax states happen by chance?
Is it coincidence that the two highest tax rate states in the nation, California and New York, have the biggest fiscal holes to repair?
No.
Dozens of economists, academic experts, studies, old and new, have found clear and irrefutable statistical evidence that high state and local taxes repel jobs and business.
And the piece goes on and on and on with detail and fact and research.
Uh three unintended consequences from states raising tax rates on the rich.
First, some rich residents will sell their houses and leave the state.
Second, those who stay in the state reports report less taxable income on their tax returns, and third, some rich people choose not to locate in a high tax state at all.
The uh the evidence is clear.
And look, we we know this.
I mean history has told us this in whatever you look, the federal government of states, they raise taxes and they and they reduce the revenue take.
It's axiomatic.
The more you tax an activity, the less that activity takes place.
In a free market.
In a free society.
This is Ethan in Pittsburgh.
You're next on the EIB network, sir.
Hello.
Hello, Ross Megadetto.
Thank you.
Hey, uh, I wanted to call in and talk to you about Notre Dame a little bit.
Um, my wife and my three daughters were there yesterday.
And they were at the uh the student protest called ND Response.
And what's really shocking is how it's not being covered at all in the media.
When you had about 4,000 students that met at the South Quad and uh 4,000 people.
Uh there were faculty members there, there was a whole hostel of speakers.
They had Holy Cross uh priests, they had uh actually an African American priest who's a Notre Dame grad.
Um who went to Notre Dame, obviously.
Um ex-football player, uh Chris Godfrey who spoke.
So they had a lot of great speakers.
Um actually had the uh different faculty members that were there uh supporting what they were doing, get up on the stage and kind of recognize it was about thirty faculty members that stood up.
And uh well, we just we went to read about this on the news last night, how it was recorded there was just no coverage of it.
And I kind of compared it to what happened with the tea parties and how the the press just really uh ignored it because it was gonna be uh anti-Obama press and then they just didn't need to cover it.
So they were covering the the real um outspoken pro-life uh demonstrators out at the gates of Notre Dame and the people getting arrested and things, but they they didn't cover this peaceful protest that was on campus, uh organized by the students, and uh had a turnout.
I heard some of that.
I was I played golf yesterday.
By the way, by the way, I j I played one of the best rounds of golf I have ever played.
I eagled a five hundred and fifteen yard par three.
I drove a three hundred and twenty-five-yard par four over water.
I was just I was creaming the ball yesterday.
And I was driving home and I had the Fox News channel on the satellite radio.
And I gotta tell you something, Ethan.
They were wired.
There was controversy, and they were interviewed exactly as you said.
They went out and they found the most radical elements of the pro-life community they can find and had them being interviewed.
The media loved the story, but from this standpoint, they loved that there was some protest.
They loved because it it gave them something to talk about on a Sunday afternoon, but they ignored you.
They ignored the sizable, peaceful protests, that wasn't news.
What they instead chose to do was point out how small the number of protesters really were at the speech, and those that did stand up and boo during the speech were easily shouted down.
And so that the end of the day the picture was that there weren't four thousand people there who disputed any of this.
There were five or six.
And that they were all lunatic fringe radicals who had probably been let out of jail for the day to get there.
Gotta listen to this sound bite, folks.
You gotta listen.
This is our old buddy, the diminutive egghead treasury secretary, Timothy Geithner.
In Washington this afternoon, a national press club being interviewed by the editor of Newsweek, John Meachum.
And here's the question for Timothy Geitner from John Mecham.
You have two children.
The deficit over the next ten years expected to hit eleven trillion dollars.
How do you feel about saddling your kids with that debt?
We face uh again this deep recession, damage financial system, and uh our immediate imperative still is to get growth back on track.
That requires us to do things that are expensive that cost money in the short term will raise deficits.
The same time we do that, we have to commit to Americans to investors around the world that we're gonna be able to get back to living within our means when the crisis passed, when recovery is established.
We're gonna have to get back to living within our means.
And that's gonna require demonstrating to people willing to stop doing things we've been doing, give up things that we don't want to give up, and that'll be a challenge.
Whoa!
Wait a second.
Now, who's he talking about here?
Because I know damn well he's not talking about the government giving up things.
He's talking about you and me.
And apparently his own kids.
So it's our fault.
All of this is our fault.
The reason we're in a recession is our fault, and the government to save us has to spend all this debt, all this money.
And once this crisis is over, we're gonna have to get back to living within our means, and that's gonna require demonstrating to people willing to stop doing things we've been doing, give up things that we don't want to give up, and that will be a challenge.
What's gonna be the challenge?
They're gonna make us.
They're gonna make us give up these things.
So there you have, there's your future from the Treasury Secretary of the Obama administration.
You caused this.
You gave us this recession.
Your irresponsibility, your desire, you wanted too much.
You haven't given enough back.
Now we get out of this recession, you're gonna have to give up a lot of things.
We're gonna have to return to a more austere lifestyle.
Here's um here's Jeff in Indianapolis.
Welcome, sir, to the EIB network.
Hello.
Thanks for taking my call, Rush.
Yes, sir.
And and uh to steal a quote from you, thanks for keeping the gullible grounded in reality.
Um during the campaign in one of those rare off-the-teleprompter moments, um Obama was asked a question regarding abortion and how he would address the issue with his daughters when they were old enough to understand it.
And I remember him saying that he would teach his daughters values and morals, but if they made a mistake, he didn't not want them punished with a baby.
And I remember being thrown back in my seat, and I said, Did he just actually say punished?
Um and I couldn't believe that he was actually teaching the value of life in this case and equating it to being punished.
Well, we have that soundbite.
Would you like to hear it again and be knocked back on your ass?
I think so.
All right, here it is.
Look, I've got two daughters, nine years old and six years old.
I'm gonna teach them, first of all, about values and morals.
But if they make a mistake, I don't want them punished with a baby.
I don't want them punished with an STD at the age of sixteen.
You know, so it it doesn't make sense to not give them information.
All right, there you have it.
Uh so yeah, he did say he didn't want his girls punished with a baby, and he didn't want them punished with an STD, but you know, you cannot abort an STD.
That's true.
Uh you once you get an S T D you got you've got it.
You can't abort it.
Uh so but well, what's your big problem with this?
I mean, because look at the low art of political seduction.
Do you realize how many people think that that is thoughtful and deep and caring and devoted to his daughters?
Do you realize how many people think they hear it the exact opposite way you do?
Yeah, but I I mean he first predicated it by teaching values and morals.
Well, yeah, but then he covers it because I'm gonna teach them values and morals, but what if they screw up?
What if they make a mistake?
I'm gonna teach them values and morals, his uh I don't know what is in this case, is he gonna tell them to abstain?
He doesn't believe in abstinence only.
I mean, this this is a guy who's out opposing what what morals is he gonna teach?
I would assume he's gonna tell us it's I don't want you punished with a baby, don't get pregnant.
And if you if you don't want to get pregnant, then don't have sex.
But I don't believe in abstinence only.
I know your girls, and I know that you're gonna I know the reality of the world.
So he's gonna teach him morality and and uh uh uh uh values and what?
But then he but then even see it he gets he gets the gold star for teaching him values and morality.
Then when kids are kids, I mean you have kids?
Yes, I have three.
All right, you've taught them values and morals, right?
Absolutely.
Well, they haven't, they haven't, they haven't been flawless in their execution of life that way, have they?
They have not, no.
All right, neither will his be.
And he knows it.
So when they screw up, after he gets the gold star for teaching values and morality, then his daughters go out and make a mistake.
One of them might make a mistake.
I don't want him punished.
It's so young, I don't want to punish with a baby.
You realize most people will hear that and say, I wouldn't want my kid punished either.
But the value of the biggest.
A lot of people will.
Well, the pro-choice people will say that.
Well, the pro-choice people, I agree with it, but I wouldn't want them punished with a baby.
I mean, the whole pro-choice movement looks at a baby as punishment in order to survive.
Yeah.
It's a disease, it's punishment or something.
So, but this is uh You know, you I I'm I'm being argued with here in the IFB, Jeff.
My own staff, as usual, thinking I don't know what I'm talking about.
When I have to when I when I say that a lot of people will look at a baby as punishment.
If your teenage year old teenage daughter gets pregnant, oh I wouldn't want my daughter punished.
I guarantee you there are more people than you think will look at it that way.
Not maybe not a majority, but he's not that different.
Anyway, that he gets gold star twice here.
He gets a gold star twice here.
Low art of political seduction.
Now, you and I don't look at a baby as punishment.
What you don't think there are people that do.
If there, if there weren't people that do, there wouldn't be any abortion.
If people looked at babies as blessing, we wouldn't be talking about abortion as something as common as it is, even though the numbers are uh are decreasing.
So he gets gold stars on this.
Now, way you're hearing it, he's gonna teach them morality and values, but then they're gonna ignore him.
And they're gonna go out and do something, it's a mistake, but every kid does.
Everybody who has kids knows they make a mistake.
Every adult makes mistakes.
This happens.
Well, I don't know is how you abort an STD.
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