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Jan. 29, 2009 - Rush Limbaugh Program
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January 29, 2009, Thursday, Hour #3
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All right, we're back.
Rush Limbaugh.
This is the EIB network, the Limbaugh Institute for Advanced Conservative Studies.
Where we every day have more fun than a human being should be allowed to have.
I'm great to have you along here, folks.
The telephone number 800-282-2882 and the email address, L Rushball at EIB net.com.
But I want to change the soundbite order on you, Mike.
I want to do one.
I want to go back and play Matt Wower.
Uh cut four before we get to policy.
I want to replay this again simply because I, ladies and gentlemen, I I I've I've I've reached my absorptive limit on one of the tacks the drive-by's are taking to try to marginalize me.
There's been a lot of partisan banter going back and forth this week.
Rush Limbaugh, the conservative radio host, had this to say, and I'm paraphrasing here.
But he said, We're being told we have to hope he succeeds, referring to the president that we have to, and then he made reference to getting into kind of a subservient position just because he's the first black president.
Now that's not surprising.
That's what Rush Limbaugh does.
That's how he makes a living, and he's pretty good at it.
But the president addressed Rush Limbaugh directly.
Speaking of the conclude.
That's good.
Now, this is uh this technique is going on throughout NBC.
It's happening on the NBC network, it's happening on the MSNBC cable channel.
Uh, and I did.
You know, I said on Hannity.
That's exactly what I said.
I said, We're being told we got to support the guy because his father was black.
It's just another way of saying he's the first black president.
Now, I've said I got over the historical nature of this stuff long time ago.
But Matt and the rest of you who Nora O'Donnell tried this yesterday with Mike Pence.
I didn't get a chance to go through our whole roster.
I wonder if Cookie, if she's got that.
That because Mike Pence was just fabulous yesterday afternoon on uh MSNBC with Nora O'Donnell.
Yeah, yeah, we've got it.
Number 13.
Have that coming and have that standing by.
Because uh uh the the in fact, let's play it now, and then I'll and I'll I'll re I'll react to Mount Wower and Nora O'Donnell at the same time.
But this was Mike Pence from Indiana, uh Republican Indiana, on the phone yesterday.
Well, he was actually uh uh live on television with uh the anchor Nora O'Donnell, and they were talking about the stimulus package and a number of other things.
On that specific thing that we have to bend over because this is the first black president.
Why don't you feel like you could denounce something like that?
Are you so beholden to someone like Rush Limbaugh that you can't say that that's not the type of rhetoric when America's trying to come together and do something for the unemployment rate in your state of Indiana now 8.2%.
Is that the type of rhetoric we need?
I don't believe Rush Limbaugh's got a racist bone in his body, and if you're suggesting that his statement had a racist element to it, I I would commend you to uh, you know, uh a greater understanding of the positions that he's taken.
He's a man that's about opportunity for all Americans, regardless of race, creed, or color, and I think that's why he's so admired and appreciated all across America.
Rush is out there championing the kind of uh stimulus bill that'll put Americans back to work.
We're grateful for that rush.
Now, in both instances, you see how this is spread out through MS uh NBC, but that's just a great answer from Pence.
These guys are not backing down to these phony attempts.
But about this uh they're trying to imply that I'm racist or making a racist comment here, Nora and Matt, and the rest of you in the drive-bys, it is you who have been harping on this man's race since he first announced his intentions.
It is you who are telling us that this is historic because of his race.
It is you who made and your fellow Democrats who made race a fundamental prominent issue during the Democrat primaries.
It is you guys who are constantly using race.
I'm simply reacting to what you've been telling everybody.
We're not supposed to look at the details of this debacle, Nora, because he's black.
We've got to support him because he's black.
What else?
What else reason other than he's a black liberal?
So you hit two birds with one stone here.
The guy's the first black president, it's historic, plus he's a liberal.
Bam bam.
We support whatever he wants to do, and you don't even look at it.
There's not one job created in this bill that's worth anything.
There are temporary jobs created, laying sod on the mall and this kind of thing.
There are any careers.
This bill is a job killer.
America is trying to come together and do something for the unemployment.
America is not coming together on this.
Forty-six percent of America did not vote for this, Nora.
That is why my stimulus plan in the Wall Street Journal today is a genuine compromise.
Genuine bipartisanship.
And that, ladies and gentlemen, is the truth about this.
So there's this never-ending effort here.
Uh, and by the way, this, if I'm if I might say, this is part and parcel of Obama calling me out on on last Friday.
He wanted the media to pick this up.
He wanted the media to make a big deal out of this.
He wanted the media to carry the water to try to marginalize me on this.
It's all out of the rules for radicals by Sol Volinsky, and rule number 13 here.
Pick the target, freeze it, personalize it, and polarize it.
That's what they're attempting to do.
Cut off the support network for the target.
Isolate the target from any sympathy, sympathy whatsoever.
Go after people and not institutions.
People hurt faster than institutions.
The real question ought to be aimed at Nora O'Donnell and Matt Lauer.
Why do you support something you haven't even bothered to explain?
Why do you support something you won't tell people what the truth is?
Why do you support a piece of legislation that is morally wrong?
Why do you support a piece of legislation, Nora?
You probably haven't even seen.
It is because he's black.
It's because he's a liberal.
It's because you're under this pression that every American wants him to do whatever he wants to do with no checks and no balances.
You bought into this whole hope and change business, and I'm telling you, you are destroying your own reputations and your own credibility.
It is so obvious that you're in the tank.
Newspapers are dying left and right, your ratings in MSNBC are now going through the to the tank, except when you talk about me.
You guys go ahead and try to isolate and marginalize me.
You're just making yourself look like fools.
But that's the way this is shaking out.
Here's Pelosi, by the way, audio soundbite number 24.
This is where Pelosi, she didn't, she didn't go to Washington to be bipartisan.
We didn't come here to be.
I didn't come here to be partisan.
I didn't come here to be bipartisan.
I came here as to my colleagues to be nonpartisan, to work for the American people, to do what is in their interest.
I take credit for the great action taken by the Congress.
One week and one day since the president called for bold and swift action.
Your principal opponents were not John Dinner or Eric Cantor or Rush Limba and Matt Crush.
I don't speak to that.
I'm a speaker of the House.
I don't get into it.
I don't get into that.
I don't get it.
I just I don't get into the pop culture.
I'm not interested in that.
That's Nancy Pelosi today on Capitol Hill.
Not partisan.
I didn't come here to be partisan or bipartisan.
I came here to be nonpartisan.
She is the most part this is deceit.
She's the most partisan.
Next to Harry Reid, person in Washington.
There's a website out there called Wow Oh Wow.
Uh, women on the web.
And it's it's it's a bunch of old clucking hens that get around and uh basically bitch and wine.
And they put this little story out.
House passes $819 billion stimulus, but no help for potential mothers.
Economic help may be on the way, but not for everybody, including poor women who can't afford to have a baby in this horrible economy.
Women's groups are reeling over the news that family planning and so forth, the money for abortions was taken out of the stimulus package after Rush Limbaugh and others blasted its inclusion.
Planned Parenthood yesterday urged people to call the White House directly To voice support for the Medicaid.
Now, here, what's wrong with this?
This is why I called him a bunch of clocking hens.
Nancy Pelosi just got through telling you, babes not to have any kids.
Nancy Pelosi just said that abortion is part of the stimulus because it is going to save money down the road.
No help for potential mothers.
Nancy Pelosi doesn't want mothers.
I hate to be the one to remind you of this, but she doesn't want anybody having babies.
It's just that simple.
All right, brief time out.
We've got more right after this.
Don't go away.
Ha.
It's L. Rushbow.
This is the excellence in Broadcasting Network, George Soros.
A long piece at the Financial Times called The Game Changer.
The two, the two important pieces in the George Soros piece are these, at least as I read it.
The American consumer no longer can act as the motor of a global economy.
The American consumer, in other words, what Obama said yesterday is not right.
The American consumer is not a factor in economic recovery.
He also said that Obama must implement radical, comprehensive set of policies.
Now, ladies and gentlemen, I want to before we go to the phone calls here.
I want to point something out to you because I mentioned, and I'm not trying to depress you.
I am trying to inform you.
This stimulus package passed the House.
It's going to pass.
This pork bill is going to pass.
There's nothing the Republicans can do to stop it.
What the Republicans can do is position themselves in such a way that they have no authorship of it so that when it bombs out, they cannot be harmed by it, and in fact can use their opposition to win reelection and pick up seats in both the House and the Senate in the next two and the next four years, because this kind of overreach is going to continue, and that's the point of this next item.
As I have said, and as I will now prove the Obama administration, Obama himself, is trying to redo the New Deal.
They are trying to replicate what Franklin Delano Roosevelt did.
Not for the good of the country.
They are doing this to cement Democrat Party majority power for decades in the future.
They're trying to fix and correct their power losses that occurred in the 90s, as I so brilliantly write today in the Wall Street Journal.
But Obama and many on his support team have examined the New Deal, as you know they think the New Deal ended the depression.
It did not.
They will admit that Roosevelt made some mistakes, and this is where it gets scary.
Obama and his support team believe that Roosevelt's mistakes in the New Deal were not spending enough money soon enough.
Not spending enough money fast enough.
And that's what they want to fix.
This is just the tip of the iceberg.
We knew this during the campaign.
We tried to tell people as many people who would listen.
This stimulus, this porculus is just the tip.
We've already got $700 billion at TARP.
We had a stimulus last year at about this time, as we were heading into what they were predicting to be a recession.
We've got bailouts over here, bailouts over there.
We're looking at multiples of trillions in government spending, all under the auspices of doing right what Roosevelt did wrong.
November 10th, 2008, Paul Krugman, who is one of the disciples in the Obama administration, Franklin Delano Obama is the title of his opinion piece.
And I join it in progress here.
Now there's a whole intellectual industry devoted to propagating the idea that FDR actually made the depression worse.
It's important to know that most of what you hear along those lines is based on deliberate misrepresentation of the facts.
The New Deal brought real relief to most Americans.
It did not solve, it did not fix the depression.
It might have brought relief to some, but it didn't fix anything.
Anyway.
That said, writes Krugman, FDR did not, in fact, manage to engineer a full economic recovery during his first two terms.
This failure is often cited as evidence against Keynesian economics, which says that increased public spending can get a stalled economy moving.
But the definitive study of fiscal policy in the 30s by an economist at MIT reached a very different conclusion.
Fiscal stimulus was unsuccessful by Roosevelt because it was not tried.
Stick with me on this.
What it says, fiscal stimulus was unsuccessful in Roosevelt's first two terms, not because it didn't work, but because it wasn't tried.
This may seem hard to believe.
The New Deal famously placed millions of Americans on the public payroll, but they didn't spend enough money soon enough.
The effects of federal public works spending were largely offset by other factors.
Notably a large tax increase enacted by Hoover, whose full effects weren't felt until his successor took office.
So blame it on Hoover and blame it on the fact that Roosevelt didn't spend enough money soon enough.
From the CyberCast News Surface, Friday, January 9th, incoming House Energy and Commerce Committee Chairman, Henry Waxman said Tuesday that Franklin Roosevelt did not spend what was needed to get people back to work during the Great Depression.
His comments were made following a House steering and policy committee hearing about the current need for an economic stimulus package that could cost anywhere between $775 billion and one trillion.
It's estimated that the Roosevelt administration spent $500 billion in inflation adjusted dollars to try to get America out of the 1930s depression.
So here's Waxman.
Didn't spend enough money, didn't spend what was needed.
Soon enough, Paul Krugman in the New York Times.
And let's see, this is from National Review Online.
Congressman Frank Lucas, Republican Oklahoma, offered a radio station in Oklahoma an illuminating glimpse into Obama's much discussed stimulus pep talk with House Republicans.
According to Frank Lucas, Republican Oklahoma, Obama expressed his belief during the meeting that a major problem with FDR's New Deal is that it didn't spend enough money in the early going.
Here is a partial transcript of the Congressman's interview.
The president offered a comment in the conference the other day.
He said that the spending program that Roosevelt used in the beginning of the Depression, real problem was Roosevelt slowed down on public spending the first two years.
If he had just kept on spending that money, we'd have gotten out of the depression quicker.
Congressman Lucas said, I think that's an indication of what's coming.
Maybe not just an $825 billion increase in the national debt for additional spending this year.
But if the economy continues to sag over the course of the year, don't be surprised, based on his comment about the 1930s.
If Obama proposes another increase in the national debt and another big spending package after this.
So in other words, Obama thinks that FDR's plan was laudable, but faltered because it didn't spend more money.
Henry Waxman saying the same thing.
Paul Krugman.
So that's the new mantra on why.
Because they're being stung, properly so by the criticism.
Wait a minute, FDR didn't solve the Depression.
The New Deal didn't solve the Depression.
World War II did.
So they've got to have a retort to that.
And the retort is, well, he helped a little bit later on, but if he'd really spent early on, why I would have fixed everything.
So they're playing off the historical popularity of Roosevelt.
Everybody loves Roosevelt.
Saved America.
World War II, the Gypsies, so forth.
Didn't so I'm just, I'm just warning you.
This is this is going to be an epic battle.
These people in the Obama administration are moving left at roadrunner speed.
And they're having to be kept up with that way.
This is just the tip of the iceberg.
Now this will equal, this will result in these people overreaching.
This porculus bill.
More and more Americans are already seeing what's in it, and they're fed up with it, and they say it's no change.
This is if anything, this is Washington as usual on steroids.
They want no part of this.
More and more Americans, I don't know how many, certainly not a majority, yet, more and more Americans are learning this is not anything about creating jobs.
And when you have tax credits of $500, this is from the New York Times today, tax credits of $500 to $1,000 for illegal immigrants.
When you try to sneak in there $335 million for condoms and contraception and so forth, when you try to sneak in there in a stimulus bill, money to fund abortions in this country and around the world.
And when you have the speaker of the house saying, well, yeah, uh because we need fewer people.
What put less strain on the health care system, less strain on our uh public works programs and projects and the and all of our uh public assistance programs, uh uh it is certainly an economic stimulus to have fewer people born.
So when you you you put all that together, let people know about this, and then become angry and outraged.
But it's too bad they could have been told all this in mass before the election, but they weren't.
And in fact, the media is supporting Obama to this moment doesn't dare tell people the truth about what's in this bill.
All right, let's go back to the phones because I want to reward these people who have been patiently waiting.
And uh Bismarck, North Dakota.
Boy, it's been a long time since we had a call from North Dakota.
It's good to know that they haven't all moved out there.
Mike, nice to have you on the EIB network.
Mega diddles, Rush.
Thank you.
Um I know you say you don't get mad, but I gotta tell you, I'm mad, I'm disappointed, and I'm frustrated.
Uh, this coming from a uh 37-year-old man with a 35-year-old wife, middle class family, I would say.
Um been working for 14 years since college.
On average, we probably make about 42,000 a year.
We have four kids, one on the way in April.
Yes, we're gonna have a kid during the uh newest depression.
And I guess I've always been told that the American dream is working hard and making good choices.
Yep.
Now we have no mortgage, we have no debt.
We live, I think, pretty comfortably because we've managed our money and lived well within our money.
Hang on a minute.
People need to hear what you're doing here.
Did I hear you correctly that you and your wife on average make 42,000 dollars a year?
Yeah.
Well, on average over the last 14 years, yes.
Last 14 years since college.
Yep.
Yet you do you have a home, a house?
Yeah, I have about a hundred and sixty-five thousand dollar home.
And you don't have a mortgage.
I have no mortgage.
You have no debt on that house.
I have no debt at all.
Now I have to this is fabulous.
Don't just misunderstand here, but people are gonna wonder how the hell you did that.
We we've lived way beneath our means.
Well, you've got a $165,000 house, and you've either you paid cash for it or you paid it off.
Uh we we paid it off.
Oh, you did have a mortgage, you just don't know.
You've paid it off.
Yeah, well, I haven't had a mortgage for for over two years.
Okay.
All right.
And you do all of this on $42,000 a year for the last 14 years.
Yep.
On average.
All right.
So the reason that's important is I know you're in North Dakota, and things are, you know, they cost less there than uh in in other states, but still that's amazing that you can do that.
Well, just to back up a little bit, we we moved from the state of Michigan out to North Dakota uh in two thousand six.
So we did this while living in the state of Michigan, too.
Damn.
I don't understand that.
I that's no, I I guarantee there are people.
How does he do forty forty-two?
This is the combined income for you and your wife, 42 grand here in Michigan.
Yeah.
And you paid off your mortgage on your 165,000 dollar house two years ago.
Yes.
Wait, was the house the house in Michigan or the house in North Dakota?
Well, we pretty much had The house in in uh Michigan paid off.
Uh when we moved out here, it cost me some money to move out here, and uh the housing wasn't as cheap uh out here as as we had anticipated, but um because uh housing out here is it was going to be.
Okay, I get it.
All right.
So I'm sorry for interrupting you, but uh though I'm sure people were curious about that.
So you you're 42,000, you have uh uh four kids, did you say?
Uh four and one on the way, yeah.
Four and one on the way, and you started to say uh you're you've worked hard, you've done the American dream, you followed the rules, but you're mad.
Yeah, I because I yeah, I'm confused.
I'm I'm extremely confused.
I I thought I was educated and uh thought I was doing things right, and no one's talking about me and my wife doing a good job and recognizing us, but we're recognizing everybody else who's made poor decisions, and then we're gonna we're gonna help those folks out because we feel bad for them.
I know that's a little bit sarcastic, but I'm I'm confused.
Well, I understand your confusion.
Um the this this is Well, actually, no.
What are you confused about?
Why are you confused that we have a government uh of majority Democrats who want to make as many people victims as possible and prop them up?
Why does it surprise you?
That's been going on for a lot of years.
It doesn't conf I mean it doesn't surprise me.
It just it frustrates me that when you do things the right way and you live you try to live the American dream.
There's there's really no kudos to you for for doing the right thing.
Well, to certain people that's right.
To many liberals, you playing by the rules and prospering.
You've th that's not fair because there's so many people who haven't.
This bailout, this stimul, whatever you want to call the porculus bill, it's from people like you that money is going to be taken to pay the people who have failed, the businesses propped up which have uh failed and so forth.
You're not alone in your anger here.
How about the how about the guy still paying his mortgage and he's barely making the payment, and yet people who can't pay are being told they the house can't be foreclosed on, they've got to stay there.
How do you think those people feel?
While the value of their home is plummeted at the same time.
Well, again, you gotta make good choices.
Maybe they've made bad choices and uh maybe they move out.
Well, no, I assuming they made the right choices other than maybe who they voted for is the point.
There's some people who want to change the rules you play by in the middle of the game.
But the the the notion of of propping up look, Dick Gephardt said it, the life lottery of uh you know, people who won life's lottery, meaning success like yours is just good luck.
And that's not fair because some people have had bad luck.
They want to pick the winners and losers.
This is uh well, you know, I'm frustrated too.
The thing that frustrates me is that what's right in front of everybody's eyes, the destructive nature of liberalism somehow isn't seen.
And it's really nothing more than public relations.
Liberalism wins the PR battle as compassionate and caring and so forth.
And uh conservatism is seen as mean spirited, cold hearted, cruel.
And it's where that that that kind of thing is partially why we're where we are now, everything being a hundred and eighty degrees out of phase.
It'll it'll it'll change around.
Uh, but it's still uh, ladies and gentlemen, it's gonna have a a profound impact before they overreach and get thrown out and replaced.
So batting down the hatches.
Mike in uh in Foxboro, Massachusetts.
Great to have you here, sir.
Hello.
Good afternoon, Rush.
It's a pleasure.
Thank you, sir.
Uh I guess it's uh thermal underwear wearing dittoes here from uh Chile, Foxboro, Massachusetts.
Home of the New England Patriots and Go Stealers.
Yeah, all my sentiments are with you, pal.
Okay, well, look, it's um uh on the side.
Uh I started I'm looking for my uh twenty year Chevron here for listening to you, a former employer of mine and turned me on to you.
You were on an ex an obscure western Massachusetts State uh station back in uh I think it was like seventy eight uh eighty seven or eighty eight.
I remember that obscure Western Massachusetts station.
It was near Amherst because I went up there and did a uh a rush to excellence tour at some point.
I forget forget what the station was.
Oh, excellent.
No, that's great.
It might have we might even still be on that station.
So with me on it, it is no longer obscure.
Oh boy, I'll tell you, we had all we could do to pull it in.
Well, of course you're in Foxboro.
You're all the way across the state.
It was a it was a uh a low power radio station.
I think it was thousand watches, or maybe five thousand.
But at least you made the effort, see.
That's what Coach Dungey was talking about.
You reached up from common status, and you became uncommon by doing what you could to pull in that signal from the obscure station on the western part of the state.
Oh, God love you.
Well, look, um as I spoke with Bo, which is also an honor.
I want to talk about the the great economic news that we received today and uh which I read this morning in the Wall Street Journal.
Yeah.
And that is that China is not going to buy our paper, and that's the one.
Wait a minute.
Wait, wait, wait a minute.
Well, just a second, Mike.
You have to remember that there are Obama uh voters listening here, and they have no clue what you mean.
The the Chinese aren't going to buy our paper.
What paper what they what they what he means, folks, is the Chinese are no longer going to buy our treasury bills and invest in our national debt.
Uh these Obama people might think you're talking about the New York Times, and that would that would upset them.
Oh, you got me there.
Well, um as an update, everybody should uh, you know, uh read that the uh the Chinese uh are taking a hard look.
They've made a lot of investments in this country.
And also it's time to reexamine Alan Greenspan's uh statements to Congress about irrational exuberance, and at this at in that same time frame, he uh did talk about the amount of uh debt that the Chinese were buying from the United States.
A lot of people have been concerned about the ChICOMs and the level of our debt that they hold because if they decided to call it, we're up a creek.
Now they they won't uh that they wouldn't do it because they're too dependent on this economy thriving.
Uh we are a consumer of Chinese goods, uh cheap, expensive, lead-filled or not.
We are a consumer of Chinese goods.
Cars and this is a t television, they're getting into all kinds of things, uh, computer parts, computers, I mean the iPhones made in China.
Uh a lot of a lot hoop milk products, milk, eggs.
There's a lot of uh there's a lot of uh high shoes and so forth are made in China.
So the but it it's I th the I wouldn't worry uh, Mike, because nobody nobody is buying all of this debt.
We are printing some of this debt.
There's nobody buying all of this.
Some of the debt's being purchased, of course, but the ChICOMs have gotten out of the game.
We're printing this, and I I'm I'm amazed that inflation hasn't ticked up yet with all this.
And it has to at some point.
It has to.
And when that happens, they gotta somehow do what they can to tame that because that's that's the biggest wealth killer that that comes down the pike, and that's another one of the ancillary effects of this, all this spending that you don't even want to contemplate.
Quick timeout, we'll be back after this.
And we go back to the phones.
Terry, Inmobile, Alabama.
Nice to have you with us.
Hi.
Common did as to you, sir.
Um I'm with you, Russ.
I applaud the Republicans in the House.
They made that look so easy.
It really is easy.
We're sticking together when you need to.
My question to you is why does it seem so easy to stick together when we're out of the minority?
And when we're in the majority and have the opportunity and the power to do something or stop things, we seem to fall apart.
I am so glad you asked me that question.
Well, good.
Can you do you have the answer, sir?
I would love to hear it.
I'm going to tell you the answer.
Excellent.
Don't doubt me.
I won't.
The Republican problem in the House, forget the Senate, because it's own that that that place exists practically as an independent body uh from the executive branch, but the House.
When your party also has the White House, and the president of your party is not engaging in the implementation of a conservative agenda.
When your president is creating a new entitlement, which is not what conservatives do.
Medicare Part B. When your president is inviting Ted Kennedy to come up and write the education bill, when your president in establishing his new tone is reaching out to Democrats because he thinks that's the only way he can get things done because there aren't enough Republican votes in the House.
As a Republican member of the House, you have to go along with your president.
If you oppose your president, on bill after bill after bill, you are hurting the party.
It's a party.
These guys were in a no-win situation.
Now that doesn't excuse some of them who lost their conservative loyalties even before all this started to happen.
But it certainly didn't help.
For example, you remember the Republicans in the House, Terry, finally stood up to the president and McCain on uh on amnesty.
Yes.
They finally did it late in the president's second term in the summer of 2007.
But that was one of the first times that they did.
So the it when you say, oh yeah, easy for them to be unified when they're out of power, uh when they can't stop anything anyway.
If your president, president is your is your party, you almost he's lobbying you.
You almost that you you have to support the president's legislation.
That's what comes down from the party.
That's why I'm not a party man.
That's why I'm an ideologue.
That's why I'm a conservative.
Well, I am a party person, Rush, and I'm a I'm a member of my local party, and I'm a member of my state party.
And I I just don't buy into the philosophy.
I mean, it's like you said, if it's right, it's right, it's wrong, it's wrong.
And the inconsistency that we have sent for many of our members is very disheartening.
And even our president, who I love and adore George Fush.
Yes.
But he and our and our Republicans in power, not people like me and you, grassroots folks, have gotten us Barack Obama and what we're listening to today with Pelosi and that group.
So I I it's very frustrating.
But I hope they keep it up.
Well, look, let me uh I understand uh intellectually what you're saying.
Well, I I understand emotionally what you're saying.
But let's you know, there's I we we talked to Coach Dungey earlier today, the National Football League, and and any successful coach will tell you that when your team does something right, you don't go the first time or or one time, you don't go overboard and praise them to the hilt because they think it's you give them a little praise, that's the way to be.
That's what we expect next time, and that's what we expect next time.
And that's what we expect the next game.
That's what we expect the time after that.
You don't go, oh well, now a lot of people today are going, oh, well, look at a Republican, damn it, they're so good.
That went wonderful.
That was you guys again, and I love them.
Don't misunderstand, but this is just the first.
And don't it it's fine to go back and relive 2001 through 2008, but we're in 2009.
They did the right thing, and the effort now is to inspire more of that doing the right thing, rather than ripping them for what they did, which they can't change now anyway.
Absolutely.
Well, I I hope it's uh it's a new day today, and and I'm one of those that are thrilled, and I hope it empowers them to to keep this up.
I think it will let them hear from you.
It will empower them.
They know they've done the morally right thing.
When you do the morally right thing, you were empowered, trust me.
And you know when you when you it's not that hard to do, but boy, when you do it, it feels good.
We'll be back.
What a fun day, folks.
What an absolutely fun day.
Don't forget the uh the Wall Street Journal op ed is at the Wall Street Journal, linked at our website.
Uh audio and video for my appearances on Fox and CNBC this morning, and Tony Dungey's book, Uncommon.
Again, I want to thank the coach for his uh half hour with us in the second hour today, and we'll be back here tomorrow, folks, open line Friday, where of course there are no rules.
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