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Nov. 13, 2008 - Rush Limbaugh Program
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November 13, 2008, Thursday, Hour #1
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Welcome to today's edition of the Rush 24-7 podcast.
Thanks so much.
Johnny and Rush and Kit and Mike and everybody get to hang out with on these wonderful fill-in opportunities.
I'm Mark Davis, joining you from WBAP in Dallas-Fort Worth.
And Rush is off today, and I'm so pleased to be here.
It's funny, I had, I always am, and thanks to all of you who are so nice to me when I get to hang out here for a day or two every once in a while.
Same number, same quest, same country, at least for 70 more days.
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Again, Mark Davis, hi.
Look forward to talking to you.
Place those calls now because I'm going to throw out some things that we can do today.
But my usual strategy is to do about half the heavy lifting and let you folks figure out some directions you might want to go in.
And if I find them worthy, then fate will smile on you.
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Happy Thursday to you.
On today's program.
The election's not done, you know.
Some parts of it are Minnesota, Georgia, and Alaska.
Three Senate seats that still deserve a lot of attention.
Georgia, because we're going to have a runoff to see if Saxby Chandler can keep Georgia Republican.
Alaska, because crooked Ted Stevens either has won or has not.
And if he has won, then he needs to be hounded from office immediately so they can have a special election so we can have U.S. Senator Sarah Palin.
Or is that the best?
What is best?
For those who are interested in Sarah Palin 2012, and I potentially am, I was extremely interested in her as vice president, of course, to be serving under John McCain would have been a magnificent training ground for her to be the 45th president of the United States January 2013, because McCain, one way or the other, as I've said a million times, would have been a one-termer.
But first, Ted Stevens has to win.
We'll see how this all goes.
And that one, that's Mark Begits, the mayor of Anchorage, right?
He is now leading by 814 votes.
So there's another state.
And the other state, ah, yes, Minnesota, where that psychopath Al Franken and his minions, well, let's be really careful here.
Oh, not about the psychopath thing.
I'll stand by that.
I've been around the man.
He and his minions.
Is Al personally, personally directing the vote thefts that are going on in Minnesota or are they just happening?
Ballots are being found in people's trunks.
Whoops, forgot these.
Whoops, absentee ballots.
Found some more.
What?
Norm Coleman was up by 500, 60, 700 there for a while.
Then it went to 700.
They went at 500.
Now it's about two, 200 and 200.
Not two.
That'll probably be tomorrow.
And by the way, the Minnesota recount will not be finished until at least December 15th.
At least the final arbiters for the recount have been named.
So just get ready.
Get ready to be talking about Minnesota.
Minnesota Supreme Court Chief Justice Eric Magnusson, a former law partner of Governor Tim Polenti, some other high-ranking judges.
Secretary of State Mark Ritchie is the DFL guy that's the Democratic Party in Minnesota.
He made those selections on Wednesday.
He is a partisan.
But hey, so is Catherine Harris in Florida.
She stood up.
She was not standing up for Bush.
She stood up for the law.
And a lot of people are making a judgment, an analysis call here.
Well, looks like Minnesota is going to be like Florida.
No.
Only in terms of an uncertain and extended result.
Florida, for the most part, was not about an attempt to steal an election by finding hidden trunkloads of uncounted ballots.
Florida was about an attempt to steal an election, Al Gore attempting to steal the state of Florida by having the state Supreme Court write election law from the bench.
The U.S. Supreme Court, not standing up for Bush, but standing up for the Constitution and the law, said, no, you can't write election law, fresh election law from the bench.
So Florida was never really about individual voter activist or activist voter fraud.
It was about the pain of a state where the vote was so close and there were a ton of ballots that just couldn't be counted.
Oh, people tried, but they couldn't be counted.
Florida also wound up going the right way.
President Bush won Florida fair and square.
And the court rulings wound up siding not with him for the sake of siding with him, but with the facts and the law.
Minnesota is wholly different.
These are mysterious and wacky developments where ballots are appearing as if dropped from the sky.
So there's a freshly appointed canvassing board charged with certifying vote totals and settling differences over disputed ballots once local officials complete this recount.
It is the closest Senate contest in the country, although a court challenge may still be in the offing.
Back in Alaska, Mark Bagich now leads Ted Stevens by 814 votes, 132,196 to 131,382.
God, that's a state?
260,000.
Love me some Alaska.
Love me some Alaska.
We have Dallas City Council races that have that many votes.
Golly.
Okay.
There are about 40,000 left to go or something.
Bagich was behind the day after the election, but has made up ground as absentee early and question ballots have been added to the pile.
I believe there are also ballots that had to be thawed out because they arrived in blocks of ice.
Just a rumor.
If re-elected, Stevens would become the first convict ever elected to the Senate.
Isn't that special?
Doesn't that just warm your heart?
And you may, listen, if you have blistered the people of Alaska, what are they doing?
Electing a convict?
Yes, they did.
Follow their logic, though.
They were not going to let a Washington, D.C. jury, and that's such class warfare, and I love it.
They weren't going to let a District of Columbia jury make their political choice for them.
Here's what I mean.
Ted Stevens may be a crook, and he is, but he's a Republican crook.
And that doesn't mean like to invoke a D.C. story, Marion Barry, like he's evil, but he's black and a Democrat, so we love him.
This isn't about love of Ted Stevens.
This is about not handing their Senate seat over to a Democrat.
So the Alaskan Republican logic, oh, and bless them for their resourcefulness up there.
The Alaskan logic was, well, I'll tell you what let's do.
Let's elect Ted Stevens.
Let's let him win and then hound him from office, which they will promptly begin to do.
And I believe that will succeed.
And then, don't get ahead of me, right?
Do we then get U.S. Senator Sarah Palin?
Now, I've gone totally ADD on you, so just brace for the next three hours.
We have some national security stuff to talk about.
Will President Obama shut down Guantanamo?
Horrible idea.
Will he bail on missile defense agreements in Eastern Europe?
Horrible idea.
Just the list of horrible ideas that may befall us in the Obama era.
Speaking of, hey, horrible ideas, the theme of the day, GM bailout.
I come to you not dispassionately.
My father-in-law, who's one of the most magnificent men I've ever had in my life, 30 years, General Motors plant, Arlington, Texas, two miles from where I'm sitting right now.
And I love him and his brother too.
30 years, GM.
They gave their lives to this company.
And this company made promises to them.
Promises that may not be able to keep.
And boy, I hate that.
However, they say elections have consequences.
You know what else has consequences?
The marketplace.
You know what else has consequences?
Bloated union contracts.
All kinds of things have consequences.
There is a New York Times story.
Don't go running.
It's all right.
Micheline Maynard has a story.
It's a news analysis, or as the Times calls them, editorials.
But this one is pretty straightforward.
GM's troubles stir question of bankruptcy versus bailout.
Now, one, they both are very bad for the company and perhaps costly for the country.
Because how many analyses have you seen like this?
And I love this phrase.
Too big to fail.
Ain't nothing too big to fail, man.
Ain't nothing too big to fail.
Failure is hard, but you know what failure is?
It's a definition of reality.
It's just like success is.
It's the flip side of the success coin.
Jeb Henchling, wonderful congressman from the 5th District of Texas.
I love me my local congressman.
Forgive me if I invoke them often.
But these are true trailblazers for real conservatism.
The whole country's talking about, you know, we need real conservatism, unapologetic conservatism.
Governors like Bobby Jindahl, governors like Sarah Palin, our governor, Rick Perry, who may be locked in a pitch battle as U.S. Senator Kay Bailey Hutchinson may roll out of that Senate seat to come home and run for governor.
That will take national, that'll get national attention.
But Jeb Henchling was on Fox News this morning saying, if you remove the ability to fail, if you temper and cushion and actually physically, almost physically, prevent failure, that has a flip side.
It in a way ultimately prevents success.
And I hate the tiredest analogy in the world, your crack-smoking brother who always wants $100.
But if you don't give it to me, I'll starve.
Oh, okay.
And all you're doing is enabling him.
Pardon the clumsy metaphor, but it may not be that clumsy.
It may be perfect.
That's what we're doing in Bailout America.
Bail out this company.
Bail out the government.
Bail out the banks.
Bail out JM.
No, And if that's hard on the ear, I'm sorry.
But it's the momentary, or shall we say, brief period of rough waters that companies and individuals and banks and mortgage holders will go through without bailouts is it's a walk in the park.
It is nothing compared to the cost of remaining this pansified crutch-seeking country that doesn't have the spine to stare down its problems and solve them in the private sector and with personal responsibility and corporate and government accountability.
So that's another theme.
But let's hit the break here.
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On the, we're going to talk some Sarah Palin today because she, well, and I hope you caught some of this.
I hope you were doing some cable laps this morning.
She is Republican Governors Association.
She's so magnificent.
And I'll tell you, okay, here you go.
You ready?
She told this wonderful story.
She loves that baby of hers, man.
She loves that baby.
And Trigg, of course, as you know, has Down syndrome.
And she was telling a story about there's some Down syndrome activist groups that have bumper stickers.
You know how you'll see bumper stickers?
My kid's an honor student.
My kid plays soccer, blah, blah, blah.
They have their own style of bumper stickers to scoreboard other kids.
My kid has more chromosomes than yours.
Ha ha ha!
And it was kind of uncomfortable.
It's like, ooh.
But she's so, that is what is so magnificent about her.
She's so openly, outwardly and unapologetically and without reservation and without hesitancy, loves that baby.
We can all be pro-life.
We can talk pro-life, talk, We can do it all day long.
She and that family, they walk the walk, and may God bless them, and may God bless her.
Anyway, my point being here, in the midst of all that talk about the chromosome thing, she said chromosome, like with an N. Whoops, mispronounced chromosome.
Oh, see, she's an idiot.
Well, you know what?
Maybe she's not Margaret Thatcher.
You know, maybe she's not Gene Kirkpatrick.
Her head and her heart are so in the right place.
And if she wants to season herself in some way and position herself for 2012, I'm so ready to see her get in there and duke it out with the Bobby Jindahls, Charlie Christ's, Mitt Romney, maybe a still youthful Rudy at 68 or whomever.
I'm so ready for her.
Now, this is kind of interesting.
I have said I kind of need her to have that U.S. Senate seat.
I'd like her to go ahead and get that Ted Stevens U.S. Senate seat, get out there and duke it out with Hillary Clinton, Chuck Schumer, Nick Durban, all that.
Wouldn't that be cool?
Camille Polya, who has an IQ of 9,000 and is radically pro-choice, says, I love this woman.
She is great.
And she will redefine feminism because she will actually open a new kind of feminism so that it's not so one-sidedly, you know, man-hating lesbian pro-choicers.
A little more my words than hers, but she had these incredible complimentary things.
And Camille Polya, again, who is no ideological sister of Sarah Palin, says, it's the people who think she's not smart who are the idiots.
Anyway, okay, got her on here.
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What did I give you?
Maybe 25 things we can talk about?
You think that'll work for three hours?
I trust it will.
Your turn.
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Your calls next on the Rush Limbaugh Show.
I'm Mark Davis, filling in, and it's the EIB Network.
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It is the Rush Limbaugh Show, but the quicker listeners among you will fast discern, wait a minute, that's not Rush.
Well, no, it's not.
Mark Davis, WBAP and Dallas-Fort Worth.
Grateful to Rush and his entourage for letting me hang out today.
Much appreciate it.
And same drill, though.
Your calls, our thoughts intermingled.
I'm going to go to this New York Times news analysis on the GM quandary, bankruptcy versus bailout.
I'll do that next segment.
Let's get some people on the air talking about that first and get your thoughts into the mix.
Rush would want it this way.
Let's go to Steeler Country to begin in Pittsburgh, PA.
Scott, welcome to the Rush Limbaugh Show.
Mark Davis, how are you?
How you doing, Mark?
Good.
Hey, I just, and thanks for taking my call.
I just wanted to say something about the GM bailout.
Basically, what's going on is they're taking the handcuffs off of GM because GM got busted, and they're putting the handcuffs on the American people, and they are charging us to pay for their debt.
That's the logic of the bailout Bible.
That is exactly what happens.
It is taking the accountability that properly should fall on the shoulders of big corporations, bad debtors, bad creditors, companies that have had a tough time in the marketplace, Taking the owie away from them, taking the pain away from them and wrapping it around innocent taxpayers.
And it is antithetical to not just to what conservatism teaches, but to what America should be about.
And that sounds very red meat, but it's also true.
So if I go bankrupt personally, am I going to be able to get bailed out?
Well, it depends.
Are you a functional human being who's made mostly good decisions in life?
Yeah, I mean, I paid the welfare people that voted for Obama.
Yeah, that's going to be a no.
And that is precisely what is driving.
And this is kind of interesting.
And thank you very much for weighing into that because you're totally right.
That's a wonderful model for what the whole bailout motivation is.
Do you sense, do you sense that there are enough people starting to get sick of this?
That bailout is becoming a really tiresome concept.
People don't like this.
American Express yesterday, you know, with their hands out, where does it end?
And the answer is, it doesn't.
It never ends.
Once you started, they say there's no such thing as a perpetual motion machine.
Oh, yeah, there is.
As soon as people learn that there's free money out there, and no money is free, it comes from somewhere, comes from us, but that the spigot is open, there will be a perpetual motion of takers moving to that trough to slurp from that fountain.
And this is the bed that we have made.
But my question is, do you believe that America will shrug and go, yeah, that's it?
You know, it's bailout USA for the time being, and maybe we'll get over it.
You know, 1992, Clinton, 1994, Gingrich.
Two years from now, maybe we'll have a similar Republican revolution and everyone will have come to their senses.
Or might it happen more quickly?
Because I'll tell you, people are sick of the bailouts right now.
And I'll just say one time today.
And I know maybe you've said it.
I don't know.
And you can drive yourself crazy playing this game.
What could McCain have done to win?
Now, you remember me.
I'm the guy who said that Obama was unelectable unless something earth-shattering happened to change the entire landscape of the election.
Well, who knew it was going to happen?
The economic meltdown was in fact that thing, instantly making Obama not only electable, but putting McCain in a horrible hole from which he could not dig himself out.
He could have dug himself out with one news conference, stepping forward to say, you know what a Maverick does?
A Maverick doesn't do bailouts.
The bailouts are wrong.
It is Barack Obama sitting there along with President Bush in favoring these bailouts.
I don't, and I will fight them.
Stay with me on a road to an America that solves its problems through private sector initiatives and not through bailouts.
Say that.
McCain wins.
But he didn't.
Where mushing is allowed, ideologically speaking.
All right.
Tell you what, let me give you some of the just a paragraph or two from the Michelin Maynard analysis.
Yes, it's the New York Times, so I give them props for actually not totally ideologically sandbagging it.
She writes, momentum is building in Washington for a rescue package for the auto industry to head off a possible bankruptcy filing by General Motors, which is rapidly running low on cash.
But not everyone agrees that a Chapter 11 filing by GM would be the disaster that many fear.
Some experts note that while bankruptcy would be painful, it may be preferable to a government bailout that may only delay at considerable cost the wrenching but necessary steps GM needs to take to become a stronger, leaner company.
Is this in the New York Times?
I did.
I meant it.
Listen, I will stand with you and eviscerate the New York Times when they deserve it, which is often.
And that makes it, I think, our responsibility when they crank out something that seems to be, heaven forbid, balanced or even make a point that's arguably conservative.
Micheline Maynard, love you.
Let's hit some more of your calls on these and various other issues.
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If I went to a call from Pittsburgh because Rush loves the Steelers, now it's guest host prerogative, and I'm going to take Soheti from my state of Texas.
We're going to the capital of Austin, and Pat, you are next on the Rush Limbaugh Show.
Mark Davis, hello.
How are you?
Very good, Mark.
Hey, thanks.
I'm glad it's you.
You're a voice of reason in the wilderness.
You're very, very kind.
Thanks.
Anyway, my thinking is that our country needs more manufacturing, not less.
And just because a company like GM goes into bankruptcy doesn't mean they go out of business.
But I do think there's an opportunity that's being missed here.
There's two extremes being talked about.
One is GM goes away.
The other is the taxpayers bail them out with all kinds of money, which essentially is, you know, feeding the problem that began in the first place.
We become enablers.
Exactly.
And I think there's some middle ground, and that is that the government can subsidize the entire automotive industry, not just GM, but everybody that makes motor vehicles of any kind.
Why?
And let's re-engineer and retool the entire industry for alternative fuels.
And in the process, maybe we can contribute to the solution to the energy crisis in the process.
Well, okay.
Here's the problem with that, Pat, is that we're throwing good money after bad.
I mean, what was the first $25 billion for?
And the other thing was, I share your goals.
I think it's noble for us to, I love, you know, Priuses all over the place and hybrid Ford Escapes.
And, you know, does everybody need to make, you know, hybrids that everybody loves?
Absolutely.
There's no need for government to have anything to do with the retooling of the auto industry to make it competitive.
It is their job to become competitive themselves from their own ingenuity.
And not a dime of your money or mine should go to that.
I tend to agree with the idea of allowing free enterprise to run on its own.
But if the thing is incapable of running on its own for whatever reason, then I think there's ways to make leadership change top the organization.
But if there's going to be government money used, my feeling is let's make it productive rather than just simply dumping a pile of tax.
And what you have described is what's been on the table at times is, okay, we'll do some kind of bailout, but there'll be strings attached to the bailout money so that you're kind of forced to be smarter.
That's better than a blank check, but I'm greedy here.
And by that, I mean greedy toward the principle of free markets, free enterprise, and limited government, which is let companies do what they want to do.
When things get desperate enough, they will change.
If they go under, they go under.
If they go bankrupt, they go bankrupt.
Lesson learned, we dust ourselves off and we move on and leave the taxpayers alone.
Pat, God bless you.
Thank you.
Great to hear from you in Austin.
Let us head next to the Gulf Coast of Florida.
We are in Tampa.
Brad, Mark Davis, you're on the Rush Limbaugh Show.
Hi.
Yes, Mark.
How are you?
I'm good.
Thank you, Mark, for having me on.
Can I please say hi to my dad who's a returnal, retired Colonel Bob Lantorette in Santa Fe, New Mexico?
You bet returned from where?
No, I'm sorry.
I meant to say retired.
Retired.
Retired and returned.
Well, God bless him.
You bet in a week that contains Veterans Day, you bet you can.
You got it.
All right, thank you.
Hey, I wanted to just say, it just kind of struck me today you were talking about the bailout.
And one of the talking points for so many years now since the Gulf War, the Second Gulf War started, and that is Halliburton was paid all this money, was given all these contracts, exclusive contracts, because what are we going to do?
Make it a free market for how we're going to conduct a war.
And so Halliburton was just hated and loathed for all this money that Bush was giving them.
And now we're going to start sending all this money out to these companies, giving it to them for free.
What have they given us?
But nothing.
And so Halliburton provided this great service to our country and to our men in uniform, keeping them safe, going in behind them and cleaning up and just making Iraq a beautiful country again, trying to.
And yet we're giving all this free money to these other companies.
Where's the outcry?
I just don't understand how we can give billions to these companies for nothing and yet hate and vilify a company that actually did something for our country, provided work for people, actually provided services in Iraq for the people of Iraq.
That's just my comment.
You know something, Brad?
Well, we'll sit tight for just 30 seconds because you're the genius call of the day so far.
And a smart guy like you, you know exactly what the answer is to your very, very good question.
Zillions of dollars to GM for nothing, zillions of dollars to banks for nothing just because they're too big to fail, whatever that means, or the economy will tank without it, which it wouldn't, that's fine.
But some money, far less, going to Halliburton so that maybe, God forbid, we can win the war.
That's problematic.
You know the answer, Brad, and I congratulate you for bringing it up.
For those that are slow on that answer, it's because companies in America getting a bailout that Democrats like is good.
A company getting paid to do actual work that is in a war sponsored by a republic started by a Republican president, that's bad.
And God love you, Brad.
Thank you very, very much.
The war is George Bush's animal.
And I will thank him every day for it.
In fact, I was telling a local audience, this is really kind of cool.
I'm going to be at the White House Christmas Party on December 16th.
And if I do any fill-in stuff during the holidays or something, I'll have stories.
Boy, will I have stories.
And I'm already getting a certain sense of nostalgia and even melancholy.
Let me take this in order.
On Brad's point, the obviousness is that if a Democrat president and a bunch of Democrats in Congress, joined by plenty of Republican henchmen, are all for this bailout, then, oh, yeah, the nodding mass is, oh, bailout good, bailout good, make the economy better for the coming Obama presidency.
Bailout good.
Must have government crutch.
Oh, wait a minute.
Money to go to Halliburton that actually does something to help Iraq succeed?
Can't have Iraq succeed because we hate Bush.
That's the motivation there.
And having invoked that, I just want to tell you, on Tuesday, December 16th, I will shake the president's hand, which means a lot to me.
I've shaken his hand before.
He was governor of my state when I, actually, Ann Richards' still governor when I got here in 94.
Then he ran for governor.
I emceed all kinds of things for George W. when he was running for governor, and then when he ran again.
Lately, though, he doesn't take my calls.
I don't know.
It's like he's busy or something.
In all seriousness, though, in this first opportunity that I will have to speak to him for 15 seconds on a welcoming line or whatever that occasion provides, I will thank him from the bottom of my heart For keeping my family safe for seven years.
He has done that for me.
He's done it for you too.
The only question is whether you appreciate it.
Now, as soon as I got the invite to the White House Christmas party, the running joke was they've apparently heard the shows that I've done about the war, but maybe not so much the shows that I've done about immigration and campaign finance reform.
So don't be sending those MP3s, okay?
But irrespective of all of that, none of that has mattered.
And listen, I'm huge on immigration.
And please, hello, where'd that issue go?
And campaign finance reform is a total rape of free speech.
That was going to be a huge problem with McCain.
It was a big problem with George W. There have been things I've disagreed with the man about.
None of them.
None of them comes close.
I mean, the government, the government is exploded in size.
That simply must stop.
And those are problems that I will always assign to the Bush presidency.
None of those things on a scale adds up to the positive side of the ledger, the most positive side of a ledger one can have.
He has taken the war to terrorists who want to kill me and my countrymen.
And there have been no more 9-11s.
He has kept this country safe.
History will smile on him for that.
And I will always thank him.
Now, as we pause, the water cooler question now is, okay, Mark, how safe is the country going to be after around noontime on January 20th?
And there's only one answer.
I don't know.
I don't know.
I think it's impossible to argue that, well, okay.
I was going to say it's impossible to argue that we're safer.
Maybe we're momentarily safer because all the world's tyrants love us.
When you're getting, you know, a gift basket, a Harry and David gift basket from Ahmadinejad, that can't be good.
But if, you know, and people have rightly asked the question, how's it going to go?
We've had a few years of a war that's kept us safe and much of the world hates us.
Well, now a bunch of the world is going to love us.
Okay.
Does that come with a backside?
Does that come with the flip side of the coin?
That maybe these tyrants are energized and maybe, you know, they might be more willing to do bad things to us because we have a president who is just demonstrably weaker.
How's that going to go?
And I only have one answer.
I don't know and admit it, neither do you.
But I will tell you this.
When we come back, we're going to talk about two things that Barack Obama has absolutely talked about doing.
He has absolutely talked about him, his priorities.
And if he does them, I'm scared to death and you should be too.
And I have a pretty high bar for fear.
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Mark Davis in for Rush Limbaugh on the EIB Network.
Well, Steve Millerband, Abra Cadabra on the Rush Limbaugh Show.
Mark Davis filling in.
Hi, just today.
Pleasure to be with you.
Abracadabra, what kind of sleight of hand, what kind of press to digitation will the new president use to give the illusion that he is trying to keep America safe?
It may in fact be an illusion.
I'm going to tell you one goofy theory I have, one of many, and that is that the security briefings he's getting now, which are the same as President Bush's, maybe already he's learning things that have revealed to him the ill wisdom of bailing on Iraq.
Now, I know I'm half dreaming here, and I don't expect him to turn into Joe Lieberman, but you know, to push back against Harry Reid and Nancy Pelosi, that's one of the reasons Rob Emanuel is chief of staff, by the way, because if there's anything that drives the new president as much as his radical politics, it is his monstrous ego.
And he's the alpha male, and he, I believe, will do certain things to push back against the Reeds and Pelosis and Barney Franks that might sort of give the illusion of what Rush has talked about a lot, governing from the center.
His heart is not in the center.
You know that.
But his image may have to be there, at least in the opening months.
So those looking for Secretary of Education Bill Ayers or no troops in Iraq by Christmas, those things are just not going to happen.
But here are a couple of things that if they do happen, I'm in a total quandary as to how to feel about filling these gaps in national security.
Washington Post, Peter Finn, Guantanamo closure called Obama priority.
Well, isn't that just great?
If name dropping is dropping people, this is not a name drop.
This is a place drop.
I've been to Guantanamo a couple years ago, August in Guantanamo.
It was steamy.
It was steamy and it was magnificent.
Those brave and wonderful people, our military, those contractors who were helping keep things going down there, Guantanamo is the war on terror fought in our hemisphere.
There is no single place.
Iraq is filled with installations and bases, and Afghanistan is filled with bases and encampments and all that.
And Iraq is a success.
Afghanistan, I hope, will be.
But there's no one of those bases, no one location, no one concentration of troops, Baghdad or anywhere else, that in and of itself has been as vital in our successes in the war on terror as Guantanamo.
The interrogations, the information gleaned from those interrogations, the message that you may well be plucked from the field of battle and detained outside the United States and far, far away from your mosque, that has helped us win.
And if Barack Obama, and here's how it's funny, I know Senator Obama is not a stupid man, but if he is so ideologically blinded, if his ideology just sucks the brain out of his head to the degree that he buys into this ridiculous, Guantanamo, it's like Auschwitz.
Interrogation is terrible.
There's torture going on there, blah, blah, blah.
Then I fear, I truly fear for us.
And here's another thing.
We can listen.
We can spend all day talking about Islamic terror, and most days we should, but I don't trust that son of a you know what Vladimir Putin for one minute, and you better not take your eyes off of Russia.
CBS AP story.
The Air Force general who runs the Pentagon's missile defense projects said yesterday that American interests would be severely hurt if President-elect Obama halts plans developed by the Bush administration to install missile interceptors in Eastern Europe.
So if Barack Obama gets rolled by Putin and other Eastern European zealots, zealots and tyrants, then there'll be no missile defense in Eastern Europe.
The value of an idea should be gauged by how mad the bad people get.
If we do something in the Islamo-fascist world is exploding in anger, then that means we probably did a good thing.
If we do something and Putin doesn't like it, it means we probably did a good thing.
If we do something and the tyrants of the world smile, who might want a do-over?
There's the EIB network, Rush Limbaugh Show.
I'm Mark Davis filling in.
Let's wedge a call or two in in the next break and be done with this hour and move on to the next.
Stick around.
We'll be right back.
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What would it be?
Rush, get it?
On the Limbaugh show?
Rush, bumper music, right?
Okay, never mind.
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Hey, you ever have a conversation with somebody and say, boy, I really love Rush.
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Life is hard sometimes.
All right.
Boy, from Mantio to Cape Hatteras, it doesn't get any prettier than the Outer Banks of North Carolina.
And Mabel is there, and I'm glad she's here.
Mark Davis in for Rush.
Mabel, how are you?
I'm fine.
Good.
Good.
Thank you for taking my call.
My question is, what is going to happen to all these terrorists that are in Gitmo if that gets closed?
They hate America and will absolutely take every opportunity to kill Americans.
Exactly.
And of course, the easy and glib answer is that they'll all be flooding onto our streets.
The truth is that if Gitmo is closed, there will probably be a concerted effort to, I don't know, repatriate them somewhere and send them either back, send the less risky cases back to the homeland or maybe try to ditch them in some willing country that might take them if we're unable to.
But whatever solution is found, Mabel, and thank you so much for bringing it up because that is the question.
If you're so all-fired, jazzed about getting rid of Gitmo, okay, where are you going to put those scoundrels?
Where are you going to put those animals who would kill you where you stand?
We would probably try somewhat successfully to put them somewhere, somewhere almost as secure.
Invariably, some would come here.
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