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March 4, 2008 - Rush Limbaugh Program
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March 4, 2008, Tuesday, Hour #2
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Thanks, Johnny, and thanks, everybody, for enduring my company here on God, one of the one days in the calendar that Rush really needed to be here.
But alas, illness has a cruel fate sometimes.
So Rush is recovering, and we all hope we'll be back with you tomorrow.
But in the meantime, it's you and me and the issues of the day.
And that room gets pretty crowded.
I'm Mark Davis in Dallas-Fort Worth, Texas.
Great to be with you.
Back on the phones, you'll hear in just a moment.
As we, it's kind of a dual parallel track.
What do you think will happen in Texas, Ohio, Rhode Island, Vermont, and beyond?
And what do you want to have happen?
And a theme that we kind of established in the first hour, and Lord knows this is a parlor game that can last for the foreseeable future, is which candidate is strongest against McCain, even though I believe McCain beats them both and told you why last hour, I believe Hillary is the stronger candidate.
In other words, if McCain would beat Obama by maybe five percentage points, maybe he'd beat Hillary by three.
And a win is a win, so that's a moot point to me.
But obviously, if I'm wrong by a couple of points and Hillary just runs a genius campaign and embarrassing photographs of McCain in some compromising position arise or something happens, then maybe it winds up the scale slides and it would really be a McCain victory over Obama by only one and maybe a Hillary victory over McCain by two.
The numbers are making my head hurt.
So let's go ahead and hop to a quick story and then your calls.
You may have heard some buzz.
We've already had a caller invoke this.
And that is that the honeymoon may be over.
Dateline San Antonio.
Dana Milbank of the Washington Post writes as follows.
It took many months and the mockery of Saturday Night Live to make it happen.
But the lumbering beast that is the press corps finally roused itself from its slumber Monday and greeted Barack Obama with a menacing growl.
The day before primaries in Ohio and Texas that could effectively seal the Democrat presidential nomination for him, a smiling Obama strode out to a news conference at a veterans facility here, but the grin was quickly replaced by the surprised look of a man bitten by his own dog.
Reporters from the Associated Press and Reuters went after him for his false denial that a campaign aide had held a secret meeting with Canadian officials over Obama's trade policy.
A trio of Chicago reporters pummeled him with questions about the corruption trial this week of a friend and supporter.
The New York Post piled on with a question about him losing the Jewish vote.
Obama responded with the classic phrases of a politician in trouble.
Quote, that was the information I had at the time.
Those charges are completely unrelated to me.
I've said that was a mistake.
The fact pattern remains unchanged, end quote.
When those failed, Obama tried another approach.
We're running late, he said, and disappeared behind a curtain.
All right, I don't know what that bodes for the future, but I've had this little nugget of a thought in my head, and that is that it was almost too much.
I was in Iowa and New Hampshire.
I was in high school gyms and VFW halls watching 400, 500, maybe 1,000 people go nuts for Obama.
I watched as 17,000 people packed Reunion Arena in downtown Dallas to just go flat out nuts for this man.
And I thought two things at that time.
This is incredible.
It's an amazing lightning in a bottle phenomenon that may be strong enough to capture the presidency.
Or it's just a ton of smoke and mirrors.
And this act will simply get old.
It is the Obama appeal is 100 miles wide and about an inch deep, and that you can scratch through that, and maybe Hillary Clinton has succeeded in this.
And as we go back to your calls, let's examine whether you think this has in fact happened.
The middle-of-the-night telephone ad, did that in fact work?
I think that ad will be chronicled as a turning point if indeed Hillary can turn it around tonight here in Texas and in Ohio.
People will say that that ad helped her, that it actually forced the Obama maniacs to say, okay, we're having a lot of fun here.
Oh, this is a great, it's a party.
Woohoo!
We're dancing on the ceiling and passing out at the same time, which is hard.
But ultimately, who do we really want answering the phone at 3 o'clock in the morning?
And I know the point can be made, as Barack Obama has made it, that it's not so much, you know, whether you've ever answered the phone, which she hasn't really either.
I know the old joke, unless it was Bill saying he's running late.
Ha ha ha.
Okay, good.
Insert your own joke here.
But it's the judgment of who picks up the phone.
And Barack Obama replied by saying, okay, look, when I pick up that phone, I'm going to be the guy who knew that the Iraq war was wrong from the beginning, which of course gets him high fives from the kook war-hating, Bush-hating base that both of these candidates are fighting over.
But if she can really start to have Democrats think, all right, the Obama thing is fun.
This is great.
It's playtime.
But now we need to get serious about whom we put up against McCain, and we need to get serious about who's actually ready to be leader of the free world here.
And Obama mania, it's kind of funny.
The Clinton machine may come to an end tonight, or Obama mania may begin to come to an end tonight.
Now, the great likelihood is big night for him, and it's over.
And that's probably what happens.
But don't write that headline until it happens.
Okay?
Okay.
I'm Mark Davis filling in for Rush today.
Thank you, Rush.
Appreciate it.
Do get better, please.
Phone number is 1-800-282-2882, 1-800-282-2882.
There's a gentleman on the line from John McCain's home state, and he wants a moment of our time.
Let's go to Tucson and welcome Mike to the Rush Limbaugh show.
Hey, Mike, Mark Davis sitting in.
It's a pleasure to have you.
Hello.
Hey, Mark.
I want to get my sympathies, first of all, with Russ.
My wife and I are both suffering the same problem he has, which I know is no fun.
Did SARS or the bird flu happen and we just don't know it?
Everybody I know is sick.
This is nuts.
The point that we are calling to make, and we've been living in Arizona and watching John McCain probably more carefully than the majority of the people in the country for the last eight years, is this.
We don't think that John McCain is going to appoint conservative people to the court.
That's our argument is in a way of saying you shouldn't vote for him because he won't, because as your person answers the phone said, you know, is that a reason to vote for Hillary?
But saying that he will, I think, is an out-and-out non-rationality.
Okay, let's struggle for at least 30 more seconds.
What makes you doubt his claim that he will appoint Scalia, Alito, and Roberts-style justices?
First of all, I went to high school with Sam Alito.
Yep.
And I've known him for years.
The gang of 14 is the first piece of evidence that he will not.
It might be.
You know what I think?
I mean, before I say that John McCain is an outright liar when he says what he'll do, I mean, he doesn't.
Okay, give me, okay, tell me something he's lied about.
The purpose behind that, the campaign spending that he was in favor of, that I think he's going to point justice as well.
No, no, no, Mike, please answer my question.
Tell me something he has lied about.
He said it was constitutional, and he knew, or he should have known it wasn't.
Well, Mike, that's not a lie.
I agree with your side.
A lie is something that you know to be untrue, and you say it anyway, Mike, Mike, Mike.
Mike, but he doesn't.
He doesn't.
I think he's mistaken about this.
You know, but I really, really think you've engaged in a little bit of understandable confusion between what you don't like and what is a lie.
I appreciate it.
You have a lot of company in Arizona.
I get a lot of emails and a lot of I'm sure Rush gets a lot of calls from folks out there in Arizona who are not McCain fans.
I heard someone say the other day, please, Senator McCain, show us how confident you are.
Resign from the Senate so that if you do lose, at least we are rid of you here in Arizona.
So anyway, the question remains on the table.
I disagree with Senator McCain about a bunch of things.
I do not believe he is a liar.
Again, remember the definition of a lie.
This is one of the most misused words in all of talk radio, where you come up with something that somebody does that you don't, well, he's a liar.
Well, what do you lie about?
Well, he said that, you know, Clinton was a good president, or he said that, you know, Terry Shiva, you know, should have kept the tube in.
Or he said, these aren't lies.
These are differences of opinion.
And there is a very, very important difference.
A lie is, just write this one down.
You ready?
What is a lie?
A lie is something that you know is untrue.
You know it's untrue.
And you say it anyway with the intent to deceive.
Okay?
There you go.
No charge.
A lie is something that you know to be untrue and you say it with the intent to deceive.
Now, moment on the gang of 14.
And we'll break and come back to some more of your calls.
1-800-282-2882.
I don't know if the gang of 14 is evidence that John McCain has a stripe that might smile on a liberal justice.
Is it evidence of mushy, moderate instincts in him that might lead him to cough up a Sandra Day O'Connor instead of another Sam Alito?
I don't know, but I will tell you this.
Either he's just lying about this, which I hesitate to believe, his desire to give us straight constitutionalist justices.
If there's another more plausible example, I tend to go with it.
And here is that more plausible example.
Not that John McCain is trying to put one over on us and really has a stealth plan to give us more David Souters and Sandra Day O'Connors.
But if, because think about this, haven't you seen this in his personality?
The man has a fetish for outreach.
Let's reach across the aisle.
Let me get together with my Democrat friends when sometimes you just want them to say, don't get together with them, beat him.
You know, don't talk it over over coffee.
You know, win.
You know, that's an instinct that I have sometimes.
And I love civil discourse.
And I miss the days of Reagan and Tip O'Neill, where they could duke it out all day and go out for a beer at night.
I miss that.
I think we need more of that.
But Senator McCain is so he's civil to a fault.
He's pathologically even-tempered, even-handed, well, even-tempered, we'll see.
But here's the overall point here.
The gang of 14 was a group of senators that came together that essentially said, look, if there are really special circumstances that cause enough senators to stop down on the subject of a nominee, and we end up with cloture votes and needing that super majority of 60 and this entire filibustering of justices, if there are enough people who just want to talk it out a little longer or a lot longer, why not let them?
Doesn't that sound like McCain?
It is that kind of fetish for talking something to death just so you could feel bipartisan about it.
That sounds like McCain.
McCain lying to us and saying, oh, I'll give you more Sam Alito when what he really intends to do is give us more Stephen Breyer.
That does not sound like McCain.
So, gee, I hope that made sense.
If it didn't, you have a commercial break to think about it.
1-800-282-2882.
I'm Mark Davis in for Rush Limbaugh on EIB Network, and we'll be right back.
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I'm Mark Davis.
Rush is out sick with a doctor's note, man.
What can I tell you?
We hope he's back tomorrow.
In the meantime, it's a pleasure to be in your company.
We're talking a little Texas and Ohio primary and Rhode Island and Vermont as well.
And others lie ahead, folks of Pennsylvania.
I wonder if the people of Pennsylvania, let me have you weigh in.
Do you folks have a wish that Hillary do well tonight, well enough to keep the battle going so that your votes actually count?
We are a country that is, we're drunk on this in a good way.
And by this, I mean, usually Iowa, New Hampshire, that's it.
You know, after that, it's like if fait accompli, it's done.
Iowa, New Hampshire, that's it.
And for the rest of us, the primaries are all about down ballot races in your state legislature and not much else.
But now we don't know what to do with ourselves here in Texas.
At least the Democrats here actually have a say in the presidential race.
We Republicans do too, sort of.
We can pretty well help put McCain totally over the top, which we probably will do, even though a ton of people in the talk show that I host here in Dallas, Fort Worth, McCain was not their guy.
And I guess history will observe that the Reagan block of votes, the Reagan-loving conservative base of the GOP, was just atomized out across a spectrum that contained Romney, Huckabee, Giuliani for the fiscal conservative, and the 14 people that were excited about Fred Thompson.
I don't know.
We can wring our hands about that forever or just move forward.
Let's move forward on the phone lines.
Let's head into the lovely Piedmont region of North Carolina, also known to the traveling public as where I-40 meets I-85.
We are in Greensboro and John Mark Davis.
You're on the Rush Limbaugh show.
Hello.
How are you?
Good.
I wanted to make a point.
You had a caller from New York that said Hillary was going to make this great comeback and she was going to win the election.
Yep.
And I've got friends that are Democrats.
I myself am a registered Republican.
And a Dyde in the Wool Democrat friend of mine says he's leaning towards McCain.
He just cannot get excited about either one of the other candidates.
And the other Democrat friends I have are leaning towards Obama because they think we need a change, even though he hasn't said anything.
I can't imagine.
It's just a change.
It's a change.
Yeah, it's just a change.
We need a change.
We need a change of direction.
You know, and I respect their, you know, their opinions.
I don't think they're well thought out, but that's just my opinion.
Well, let me dwell for a moment on the Democrat friends that you invoked who are leaning toward McCain.
This is not a small number of people.
McCain is, for many people, the one Republican they could vote for.
And I know that McCain's obstacle is that there are conservative Republicans who are balking at voting for him, but who I ultimately believe will.
But for every one Republican who stays home in November just in a fit of peak, isn't it possible that there's at least one moderate Democrat to take his place and say, you know what, all other things being equal, I'll take John McCain.
Well, I would certainly hope so.
As you said, Joe Lieberman, he's a guy who you can respect his opinions, but he's tough on defense.
He's a Democrat.
And I just think that McCain is going to garner a whole lot more votes from Democrats than a lot of these dreamers on the left ever realized.
Essentially the same thing that happened in the last presidential election.
When it comes down to it, who do you want to be the leader of the country?
And that's my thought.
George W. Bush, even in the midst of an unpopular war in 2004, got some Democrat votes.
So there was such a thing as a, it's not a Reagan Democrat phenomenon, but the Bush Democrat was the person who stepped forward.
It was a Joe Lieberman Democrat who stepped forward and said, I disagree with George W. Bush on virtually everything, but he has managed to keep my family safe from further 9-11s for a couple of years now and for three years as of the 2004 elections.
And that's not a small thing.
Was that a lot of voters?
No, but it was probably enough to help him carry the day.
With McCain, Democrats can see a guy that they actually agree with on the borders, on campaign finance, on a couple of other things.
And maybe, I know I'm really dreaming now, but maybe John McCain is the guy who can take some of Democrat America, some of liberal America, bring them over and show them that less spending is not bad, that strict constructionist justices on the Supreme Court are not to be feared.
Just as I felt that Rudy Giuliani, being a big honking pro-choice guy, might have been the perfect man to show pro-choice America that Roe v. Wade needed to be overturned and let every state decide its own abortion laws.
Sometimes it takes someone who's a little less ideological to make the sale.
Now, that's a huge pile of ifs.
John, I appreciate you weighing in from Greensboro, but I really believe that there's a distinct possibility that that's a factor.
I'm Mark Davis, filling in for Rush.
More of you in just a moment on the EIB network.
And let me tell you, he's darn pleased that you are.
I always enjoy speaking of myself in the third person.
Speaking for Rush Limbaugh here on the show, what an honor.
Thank you.
And thanks to all of you who are calling in at 1-800-282-2882.
Let's return in the midst of all of your analysis intermingled with mine here on a big Texas/slash Ohio.
Yes, Rhode Island.
Yes, Vermont.
Love you people too.
Tuesday that may spell doom or redemption for Hillary Clinton.
It's kind of interesting.
Someone who has been as big and in our faces in as much of our cultural and political lives as she has.
And I don't want to suggest that she's about to die or about to leave the face of the planet.
She'll still be a powerful senator from New York, but the notion of the Clintons at the uppermost echelons of power, that whole concept may be just about dying on the vine if it doesn't go her way tonight.
But I'm here to tell you, I won't consider that a headline until you can actually officially write it.
Texas, let's take a couple of more calls, but Texas is in some ways tailor-made for her to rise like a phoenix from the ashes here.
So we'll sort of see how that goes.
Okay, to the phones.
If you're inland from San Francisco, you know, going toward Lake Stockton and Modesto and such, there are a ton of hugely quickly growing little communities, and one of them is Tracy, California.
And it's a pleasure to welcome Lori from there.
Hello, Lori, Mark Davis, and you're on the Rush Limbaugh show.
Hi, Mark.
Thanks for taking my call.
I'm actually originally from Fort Worth, and I live in the Bay Area.
I was so happy to hear you say what you said earlier about why McCain wins because there are so many people that will not vote for a woman, myself being one, because she's a woman.
And there are a lot of people that won't vote for Barack because he's a black person.
Nothing against him.
It's just, it is what it is.
Well, no, I'd love to pretend that there's no such thing as this phenomenon, but it might take us an election or two to get totally to the point of blindness to color.
Now, as for gender, we'll talk about whether we have to get past that.
Let's spend a moment on your claim.
This is great evidence of what I was talking about.
A woman, a self-respecting, intelligent, bright woman.
And Laurie, you're basically telling me a woman president, not your favorite thing.
Why not?
No, I mean, by no means was McCain my choice.
I mean, he was probably the last person I would have chosen.
I voted for Romney in the primary here and then, you know, for him to drop out the next day.
But, you know, I can't even fathom the thought of either Barack or Hillary being president, and it scares me to death.
Understand, but go generic with me for a second so I can make sure I didn't misunderstand you.
Do you also hold a little bit at arm's length the notion of a woman president of any type?
Biggest fear of, I mean, yes, absolutely.
Okay, because you are.
So obviously you're not misogynistic.
You're not self-loathing.
So what's the problem with the woman president?
I just, I don't, I think that there's, there are a lot of things that, you know, I'm a mother, and I'm, I, I, I don't, I just don't think that that women have it in them to make the kinds of decisions and to deal with the kinds of things that a president is faced with on a day-to-day basis.
I mean, look at 9-11.
I mean, that's just, it's nothing against Hillary.
I just think females just aren't built that way.
Can I, I don't want to say rush to your rescue because you don't need it, but so that people won't go looking for your home address.
Can I fine-tune something for just a second?
There are clearly women who do have it.
One of my favorite world leaders ever, Margaret Thatcher.
Ever.
Absolutely.
She had it.
There are women in leadership in private America, in political America who have it.
But maybe they are, I don't want to say the exception rather than the rule, but maybe that's just more a male trait than a female trait.
And you'd have to look at it case by case.
But all other things being equal, womanhood and the presidency don't exactly go hand in hand.
Yeah, I agree.
Okay.
Well, that's careful.
That's not me saying it.
Actually, let me say what.
Let me go with what I am saying and thank you for allowing me to.
I just really wanted to get at the root of really what you meant.
Every talk show host pretends that they could discern what everybody actually means.
Laurie, thank you.
All right, here, boy, you ready for our second uncomfortable moment of the show?
Here we go.
Okay.
Not voting for someone because he is black, just because he's black.
That's racism, okay?
Are you with me so far, as the Eagles once said?
If there's a candidate whom you admire and the ideas in her head are great, her resume seems fine, da-da-da-da-da-da.
Uh-oh, black guy, deal breaker, forget it.
Well, that is racism, okay?
Now, but, But Laurie is the evidence here.
She's not a sexist.
She is a woman.
Not voting for somebody because of blackness, racism.
It is not, however, apples and apples such that not voting for a woman means you are a sexist, a misogynist, a woman hater, or something like that.
Now, you might be.
If someone says, no way in the world, I could vote for a ratchet-fraged woman.
There's no way in the world.
Well, you know, why?
Because I hate women.
They're terrible.
Okay, yes, that's misogyny.
That's woman hating.
But show me 100 people who will not vote for a woman president.
And maybe 30 of them hate women.
Maybe, you know, another 40 have sort of a Neanderthal view of womanly talents.
But maybe the other 30 thoroughly respect women, thoroughly hold them in high regard.
But they simply recognize what is undeniably true.
And that is that while differences of race are largely, if not totally irrelevant, okay, they should be anyway, differences of gender are very meaningful.
Men and women are different.
We bring different wiring to the table.
We bring different thought process to the table.
We bring different temperaments to the table.
We bring different dispositions to the table.
Now, again, this is funny, just to insulate myself from your pipe bomb packages.
I'm fine with a woman president.
I would love to consider Condi Rice.
Kay Bailey Hutchinson, our own senator here in Texas, I'd be thrilled by that.
This is not a bugaboo that I have.
But if you have it, I do not presume that you are a misogynist or a woman hater.
Now, if you tell me there's no way you could ever vote for a black guy, I'm here to tell you you're a racist.
But if you're here to tell me that, you know what, you could never vote for a woman, I would not jump to that conclusion because it might not be true.
That is the difference between the hesitancy to vote for a black candidate and the hesitancy to vote for a woman candidate.
There are reasons one can bring to the table.
I would disagree with them.
They're not my reasons, but if they are yours, and you can put them as skillfully as I have, that there's a way that you can say no to a woman candidate, any woman candidate, and do so thoughtfully and without bias, discrimination, or derision in your heart.
All right.
Here's the second time I'll say this.
Gee, I hope that made sense.
If it didn't, call and I will fine-tune it.
Well, I will fine-tune it for you.
I'll just explain it more.
That should be torturous.
Instead, let's go to more calls.
1-800-282-2882-1-800-282-2882.
I'm Mark Davis, filling in for Rush from Dallas, Fort Worth.
Let's go to Chicago.
Mark, Mark Davis, in for Rush Limbaugh.
It's a pleasure to have you.
Good day.
Hi.
I will vote for McCain, but Mark, I just have to disagree with you about this bit about whether he's a liar or not.
Okay.
He lied when he signed that document that the communists made him sign on the way out of the Hanoi Hilton, and he lied when he got home when he philandered around on his first wife.
That's the definition of a liar.
Sorry to tell you, but that's the way most people are.
Have you ever noticed how people lie a lot lately?
A lot of people?
Well, I guess, but I just, if we can go to your examples, I think when people talk about a candidate and whether or not he has lied, and maybe we should mean to anybody ever, but usually what we mean is in a campaign promise, in a public statement, in a position that one espouses without, clearly without intending to follow through.
That's usually what we mean when we talk about a politician lying.
Not everybody's been a prisoner of war, and Lord knows not everybody has a perfect marital record.
And yes, those issues of character are important.
No problem at all.
But I don't differ with you.
Go ahead.
Go ahead.
Take the ball.
And I know, and I know those are pretty tough, tough examples.
Fair enough.
But let me go to where it really hits me hard.
And that's this amnesty bill that he tried to foist on us.
Right.
The jerk.
I mean, and that makes me so mad when people, when they did that.
Boy, I'll tell you, I mean, I was up in arms about that.
We don't need amnesty.
We got to have, like Mitt said, Mitt Romney.
I mean, I would have loved to have him be president.
I'm all for legal immigration.
But when it comes to this illegal immigration where they're not willing to wait in line, I mean, there may be a quote.
I realize, for example, from India, probably there's like a 5,000 person quota coming into the country every year.
And that's not very big.
But you know what?
Tough.
They got to get in line and do it the right way.
Otherwise, we screw up our economy.
We dilute the integrity of the value system of this nation.
And it's a mess.
Well said and well said and well documented, Mark.
Thank you.
Totally true.
Now, let everyone know, let everyone notice that we did.
We engaged in a change of subject there, which is fine.
But we went from things that he felt that Senator McCain was simply dishonest about to an issue that he really vociferously disagrees with him about.
As do I. Senator McCain has not lied about immigration.
He will flat out tell you that he's in favor of this stupid guest worker program.
He will flat out tell you that he thinks that we've got to bring these illegal immigrants.
I love this line.
We've got to bring them out of the shadows.
What?
Why do we have to bring it?
I think the shadows are a thoroughly appropriate place for criminals to be.
I mean, I'm a big fan of the shadows.
The only reason I want to bring illegal immigrants out of the shadows is so that I can load them in the ice van and send them back across the border.
So, yes, I share the caller's distaste for Senator McCain's immigration position.
But again, those stepping forward to say that McCain is somehow dishonest, well, there's a little bit of a stretch you got to make to get there.
And I don't begrudge this gentleman his meticulous standards.
I really don't.
But usually when we talk about a lying politician, it's about a lie he's told in public about an act or a position that was clearly meant to deceive.
Okay, 1-800-282-2882.
I'm Mark Davis in for Rush Limbaugh.
We'll be right back with you on the EIB.
Okay, clearly, Kit and Mike have set this up for me.
Bumper music from an actual friend of mine, Ted Nugent's free-for-all.
Ted from the wilds of Jackson, Michigan, but now a Texan living sort of essentially George W. Bush's Crawford neighbor, but the Motor City madman who turned 60 this December.
Wow.
Wow.
And I'll remember that forever because I was at the 50th birthday party.
Next time I fell in, I'll tell you the story.
There's some extortion.
There's some extortion.
All righty, 1-800-282-2882.
1-800-282-2882.
Listen, we can laugh and scoff and have fun, but seriously, as we progress through the middle of this, I don't want the show to end without just a moment of acknowledgement from me about what an unparalleled honor it is to sit in whatever seat is the Limbaugh fill-in chair.
So appreciate it.
Sorry that Rush had to be ill for it to happen.
And, you know, maybe in the future it'll be vacation related, but we'll look to have Rush back fit, healthy, and with you tomorrow.
But in the meantime, two things I want.
I want him to get better, and I want him and you and the guys to know how much I appreciate it.
Okay, 1-800-282-2882 on the EIB Network.
I'm Mark Davis, Philly Infor Rush here in Dallas and Fort Worth.
What do we have?
Maybe 10 or 12 more space shuttle missions.
If the weather is clear, you can see them from this man's backyard.
We are in Melbourne, Florida.
Anthony, hi, Mark Davis.
You're on the Rush Limbaugh Show.
Hello.
Hi.
Hi, Mark.
Thanks for taking my call.
Yes, you can't see the shuttles from here.
Not today if one was going up because it's a little too cloudy.
But I'm calling Mark to disagree with your opinion that you think McCain will beat either of the two Democrats.
I think either of those two will beat McCain, and I've got three reasons as to why.
I'm ready.
But first of all, you are right about McCain being honest because he proved that a few days ago when he had a microphone in his hand and he called himself a conservative, liberal Republican.
I know.
And that was right in a suburb.
I have that.
Maybe it's been played 700 times.
That is the Freudian slip of the year.
I have that.
And it was 10 miles from this studio.
And I bet he'd like to have that one back.
Right, exactly.
But anyway, first of all, when he became the apparent frontrunner, he indicated quite clearly that he was going to bring the party together, back together, so to speak.
And I assume he meant to bring the conservative wing back under the fold.
And I've had my ears open for all this while now, and I've not heard him say one thing to do exactly that.
Not one.
So I think he's got some work to do in that area, obviously.
Number two, I think his image is going to hurt him badly, Mark.
I envision the debates, whether they be with Clinton or with Obama.
And I think either of those two will pretty much wipe the floor with him on a debate.
I mean, he doesn't lack energy.
He is certainly able to stand up for his views.
I mean, he's 71, but looks no older than about 60.
And if it is even the very, very youthful Obama, yes, I mean, that will be youth and vigor up against a guy who's been on the planet for more than seven decades.
But might that look like a dad or a granddad delivering a lecture to a young naive whippersnapper?
I don't think so.
I think he's going to come across as representing the past, so to speak, the country club Republican persona that he's going to purvey.
And I just don't think that's going to resonate with the voters.
And the third reason I think that especially Obama, but Clinton also will beat McCain, is because I think that Obama wave is real, that wave of change thing.
I think the Democrat voters and the moderates and the independents are going to come out in droves.
And I do think for those reasons that either Clinton or especially Obama will win the election.
Anthony, I appreciate the analysis.
You may well be right, but oh my Lord, I hope not.
So to be that in a very Christian-loving way.
Thanks, man.
Appreciate it very, very much.
All right, shall we relive?
I know this probably been played 4,700 times, but this is in Richardson, Texas.
Here is John McCain and the Freudian slip of the year.
And I want to assure you that I have in this primary and in my past election campaigns and in this one, I will conduct a respectful debate.
Now, it'll be dispirited.
It'll be spirited because there are stark differences.
I actually love that one, too.
It'll be dispirited.
But continuing.
I'm a proud, conservative, liberal, conservative, Republican.
Hello.
Easy there.
That's just so golden.
That's so great.
I don't know.
All righty, let's head down to.
No, you know what we got to do?
Is we got to get out of here.
So hang on a second.
Mark Davis on the EIB Network.
You're right now.
All right, let's close out the hour with a couple of things that a couple of pundits are saying.
Pundit, which a lot of people are pronouncing as pendant, which is driving me nuts, but more on that in a bit.
Mark Davis filling in for Rush.
One more hour to go, and we'll be in Charlottesville, New York City, and right here in my own neighborhood in Texas in just a moment.
Michael Goodwin of the New York Daily News says this is Barack Obama's third chance to knock her out.
If he can't close the deal this time, maybe he just can't close the deal, period.
So don't view this as a no-pressure proposition for Barack Obama tonight.
I mean, Hillary needs it to survive, but he needs it to keep that inevitability locomotive on the track.
Mark Davis sitting in for Rush.
One more action-packed hour on the EIB Network.
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