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March 4, 2008 - Rush Limbaugh Program
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March 4, 2008, Tuesday, Hour #1
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Well, one can say one has arrived when Johnny Donovan does a liner for you.
Hi, Mark Davis.
Let me talk you off the ledge first because dog on it, man, it's just not right when Limbaugh's not here on a day this important.
So let me reach out and emote with you and say, you know, Rush, get better, get better quickly.
America needs you.
Remaining states need you.
I got to tell you, though, you know, next best thing, I hope you agree. is to have somebody talking to you from Texas.
I think we're sort of in the news today.
I don't know if anyone was available in Ohio, but obviously up there in the Buckeye State, you folks are in the news as well.
And I really want to hear from you and, of course, hear from my fellow Texans and all over the country here on today's Rush Limbaugh Show as we reach a day whose historic potential is almost beyond words.
This may be the end of the Clinton era.
If she gets smoked by Barack Obama tonight, as many suggest that she will, it may be it for her, for her husband.
I spoke with her husband early today, and I've got a couple of excerpts that I'll share.
But as we begin, let's say howdy to each other for about 60 seconds in the following way.
I'm Mark Davis, again, filling in from WBAP in Dallas, Fort Worth, a proud Limbaugh affiliate since, gosh, 1993, which is when we were in the midst, as many stations were at the time, of turning from sort of a full-service AM music station into a news talk powerhouse.
And the Rush Limbaugh Show helped us do that, and we have not looked back since.
I have had the enormous joy of preceding Rush on this frequency 820 here in Dallas-Fort Worth on WBAP since 1994.
And a couple of years after that, we started to bring plane loads of listeners up to New York for the Rush TV show pilgrimage.
And that is something that we all remember with such great fondness.
And since then, I guess in that same era, I appeared on the Limbaugh Show as a very rare guest chronicling the Hillary Healthcare Express as it rumbled through the Lone Star State and held a fascinating series of closed-to-the-public public meetings.
You may recall that sweet irony.
But gosh, that was so long ago.
More recently, Rush has honored us by coming here to Texas and appearing at various functions for us, and we just appreciate it so very, very much.
If I sound vaguely familiar to you, I've had a couple of fitful forays into network radio, and I've obviously filled a few chairs around the country in Charleston, West Virginia, Jacksonville, Florida, Memphis, Tennessee, D.C., and here, which sounds like a lot, but in 25 years of talk radio, eh, not so much.
So enough of that.
Let's go to work.
You know the number, 1-800-282-2882.
I'm again, Mark Davis.
Pleasure to make your acquaintance if we've never met.
So from here in Texas, let's dive in and talk to everybody in America that wants to call us about what's going to happen tonight.
There really are two questions.
What do you want to have happen?
And what do you think will happen?
I'll go first.
What do I want to have happen?
As a Republican, you know, my race is run.
And I guess I ought to offer up some cred here on where I am in terms of Republican candidate taste and where I've been, just so you know.
I became a Romney guy after following him through the snows of Iowa and New Hampshire.
I did my own show here in Dallas-Fort Worth from Iowa, from New Hampshire, as a lot of hosts did.
And I had the chance to sort of get the feel for Mitt Romney, and I enjoyed the Huckabee events.
In fact, Mike Huckabee's party was in my hotel in Des Moines.
So I want to thank him for bringing that to me so that I didn't have to, you know, stay up till 3 o'clock in the morning.
And I walked out of that room saying, wow, Huckabee, doggone it.
He's got the aura of the nominee.
Or there were 700 cops around and a room just filled with people.
And that seemed to have lasted for about five days because five days later, McCain had won New Hampshire.
Hillary had turned her fates around after the Obama win in Iowa and the narratives, both narratives just flat out changed.
And as I boned up more on Mitt Romney and had the chance to speak with him and listen, we talked a lot about the Mormon thing.
My book on that was that my religious test for a candidate is as follows.
If your faith will lead you to do something screwy that I can't have in a president, then I can't vote for you.
But if you are of a faith other than mine, other than the fairly mainstream Christianity that I've enjoyed my entire adult life, if you're something different, Jewish, Mormon, Buddhist, I don't care.
But if there's nothing in your faith that will lead you to do anything wacky or anything that's antithetical to the presidency as I see it, then I'm prepared not to care.
I mean, my favorite Democrat is Joe Lieberman, and Joe and I disagree over whether Jesus is the son of God.
So if I can get past that, I think I can get past, you know, temple garments and Joseph Smith with a Mormon candidate.
And in fact, I did.
Romney became my guy, and I really wanted him to be the nominee.
Well, as history now shows, that didn't exactly work out.
So when it became clear that McCain was going to be the guy, I began what all of you have been involved in as well, and that is coping.
I coped with the positions of John McCain's that I did not agree with, borders, campaign finance reform.
I don't know how ardent a tax cutter he is, but I embraced the things that I loved about John McCain, the conservatism that he has shown, his steadfast courage in the war.
And I believe he'll do the right thing in nominating judges.
And I believe that he'll do the right thing in a number of ways that will ultimately satisfy the portion of the conservative base that is so angst-ridden right now.
So as we face a vote here in Texas, a lot of people in a state that might have gone to Huckabee, might have gone to Romney.
I'll go to my grave thinking that Texas might have delivered Fred Thompson some kind of prize.
Because isn't that one of the enduring mysteries is why the Thompson candidacy went precisely nowhere?
We may talk about Fred today in our John McCain running mate Derby segment that I have planned a little later on.
Whom should McCain run with?
So to return to the premise, here's the choices here in Texas.
As a Republican, here I am.
McCain's the guy.
Might as well vote for him.
There'll be a Huckabee protest vote.
There will be some folks might stick up for our friend Duncan Hunter, who I just love personally and politically.
Ron Paul will get his commensurate support from here in Texas, the state that is his home.
But it is the Democrats that wield the actual power.
It is the Democrats that can shape history by doing one of two things.
Either providing Barack Obama the win along with Ohio that he would need to pretty well end her candidacy and maybe end her, not end her public, I mean, she's still going to be a senator from New York, but the era of the Clintons, plural, the notion of someone named Clinton ascending to aspiring to the White House, that may pretty well be done because I don't think she runs again in 2012.
I just think this was it, and she's just going to go be happy being a powerful senator from New York State.
That's not a bad gig.
And this has been a hard year for her.
And I don't know if she wants to come back for more punishment in 2012.
So if that storyline ends tonight, it ends.
And she'll be, you know, just another powerful senator.
She'll be Dianne Feinstein.
Not to make it a woman.
She'll be, you know, Chuck Schumer.
She'll be Dick Durbin.
She'll be any one of a number of powerful Democrats that will continue to make news.
But I think her husband will go on the rubber chicken dinner circuit and write books and make gazillions of dollars.
And it'll be the Clintons largely in private life and in the Senate.
And that's it.
So there may be some history there tonight if Barack Obama seals the deal tonight.
But you know what?
Don't write that headline yet.
Don't write that headline yet.
Because Texas, well, first of all, she still leads in Ohio in the polls, the wonderful folks at realclearpolitics.com, John McIntyre, Tom Bevin, and their crew there at RCP, realclearpolitics.com.
They did something that somebody ought to have doing for years.
Just take every single poll, glom them together, divide by the number of polls, and come up with something they call the RCP average.
In Ohio, Obama's never caught her.
Obama's never led in Ohio on that aggregate realclearpolitics.com website, a survey of all polls.
In Texas, dead heat.
But in Texas, and here's where we morph a little bit from question one to question two.
What do you think will happen and what do you want to have happen?
What I want to have happen, I guess, is for Hillary to go ahead and keep this drama going.
The talk show host in me wants more of this.
I'll tell you why I consider it moot, and I'll go into more detail on this if I need to.
McCain beats either one of them.
And I don't want to be wacky, overconfident guy or anything like that.
But please, I think John McCain beats either one of them.
So that gives me the luxury, if you want to call it that, of not having a dog in this hunt.
I'm not sitting here wringing my hands and losing sleep.
Oh my God, we got to go with Hillary because she's a weaker candidate against McCain.
Because the one problem with that, and my state of Texas here is rife with that kind of argument.
People just wringing their hands and banging their heads on the wall.
Republicans who want to cross over and vote in the Democrat primary and say, God, should I support Hillary because maybe McCain beats her more easily?
Or should I go with Obama?
Don't do that, man.
I mean, you can if you want.
I mean, Rush has so much as asked you to.
So if you feel a sense of duty, go ahead.
But I'll tell you what, it come back and bites you in the butt.
You know, what if indeed you go and you vote for Hillary and it turns out that this whole Obama mania thing is a million miles wide and about a millimeter deep?
What if he's actually peaked already?
Obama mania has lasted, what, eight weeks?
I mean, in its most virulent form, no, in its most eye-popping, you know, fainting spell apex.
Obama mania has lasted about eight weeks.
You know how many weeks it is to the election?
35.
35 weeks from today.
You know how many cycles of Obama mania?
You know, I mean, this brother loves travel and salvation show thing may just be wearing Finn already.
So I think that there's a peril to this, this crossover voting.
Nope, I want her to win because I like when substance beats puffery.
That's all.
And it's a moot point to me because I think McCain beats either one of them.
So there you go.
With that, let's turn it over to you.
I've got 14 more things in my head, but I might as well intersperse them with your thoughts because, hey, it's the Rush Limbaugh Show, and let's not forget that.
More health to Rush, good wishes, prayers for good health, and his return tomorrow.
We'll cross our fingers for that.
But in the meantime, we're left with each other's company, and I'm thrilled.
I'm Mark Davis from WBAP News Talk 820 in Dallas, Fort Worth.
So yes, if Rush can't be here, at least the show comes to you from a newsworthy dateline.
And we're going to go ahead and hop on the phones with you next.
I think that would be a delightful idea.
That phone number, again, of course, as you well know, is 1-800-282-2882.
1-800-282-2882 here on the Excellence in Broadcasting Network.
I'm Mark Davis, and we're on the phone with you in just a moment.
It is the Excellence in Broadcasting Network.
But alas, I am not Rush Limbaugh.
But it's okay.
Don't stray.
We're going to put something together for you that I hope you will like.
I'm Mark Davis from WBAP in Dallas, Fort Worth.
And hey, if Rush can't be here, and again, as you could tell yesterday, he was just struggling.
Bless his heart.
I don't know if he had just that same old upper respiratory crud that all of my friends have here in Texas and seems to be sweeping the nation, but it took him out of the chair today, which is just wrong on its face, doggone it.
Rush, we're thinking about you and we needed you today, and I hope you'll be back tomorrow.
In the meantime, great to be with you.
I'm Mark Davis here in Texas.
Let's hop to some phone calls and see what people are thinking on this enormous day.
By tomorrow, whether Rush is back or not, by tomorrow, there will be headlines to chew on that will speak volumes about the direction the presidential race is going, and that means the direction the country is going, and that means the direction the world is going.
So, no pressure, anything.
No pressure.
We are in Akron, Ohio.
Ray, Mark Davis, welcome to the Rush Limbaugh program.
How are you?
Thank you, Mark.
How are you doing today?
Doing great.
Thanks.
All right.
Longtime listener, first-time caller.
Went to the polls about 30 minutes ago and, you know, always voted in the race for Republican and first time as a voter in the primary.
I cast my ballot for Hillary today.
And why'd you do that?
Well, I knew you were going to ask me that question, of course.
I'm a little ashamed of mentioning that's expected of me.
It's got so many millions of listeners.
Oh, no pressure.
Come on.
Just, I guess, simply said, you know, Barack's wife has a big mouth.
And I can't really say it any nicer than that.
It's very complicated to explain in a short time.
Let's work together.
Let's work together.
Boil it down.
Boil it down.
What is it about so the Obama candidacy needed to be stopped?
And if you could play a part in that, you're happy to do so.
But why?
Why is she so important to the urgency of stopping him?
Still out there to keep them, you know, it's like two tigers after each other.
I'd like to see that just continue a little bit longer.
I get you.
Ray, I appreciate it.
Let's take 60 seconds on that because I think a lot of people are going to do like-minded things.
I want to offer just a mild possibility here.
Those of us who have looked at the Obama versus Hillary thing as being detrimental to the Democratic Party, maybe or maybe not.
Let's examine what it has yielded.
Acres upon acres of fawning coverage from a dominant media culture that loves them both.
Opportunities for them to appear on a debate stage and is that a debate or dancing with the stars?
It is so affectionate at times.
And then also, John McCain can't buy time on a major newspaper or a major newscast or anything like that because all the coverage has drifted over to Obama versus Hillary.
So I have, in fact, wondered if this continuing so-called feud, if it is indeed so detrimental.
I mean, there may be some actual benefits to this.
And when it all is said and done, whether it's tonight or after Pennsylvania on April 22nd, whoever has lost, whether Obama's people or Hillary's voters are crushed, they will gladly go over to the other person.
There'll be no blood on the walls.
That's a Republican thing.
That's what we do.
We're the ones who slash each other to ribbons and get all the bad blood going.
I love Romney, but I hate Huckabee.
I like Fred, but I hate McCain.
I'd rather blow my brains out.
I mean, that's a Republican thing.
In Democrat land, that lockstep unity and discipline that I, in a weird way, envy, is serving them well in this regard because the Obama people, if he tanks, they'll go, okay, Hillary's all right.
And if Hillary is indeed done tonight, her people will go, oh, bummer, okay, I'll go to Obama.
So, you know, no worries in Democrat land.
Now, as for Ray's other point about Mrs. Obama, I was as repulsed as all of you were by this, at last I'm proud of my country thing.
That was really just a gaffe, but some gaffes are windows to the soul.
It is necessary for Barack Obama and the Mrs. to get out there and paint a portrait of America as a sinister, dreadful place that only they can rescue us from.
And with that being the case, there will be an aura of the Obamas as just not liking America very much.
And I'm not prone to the red flag statement or the enormous red meat generic talk show guy thing about the Obamas, they're anti-American.
No, no, no, not so much.
But you do have to ask sometimes if somebody really admires this country.
I know I do.
Mrs. McCain made it clear that she did.
So it was possibly significant.
Michelle's gaffe, possibly significant.
I do, there is a part of me that looks forward to her on a long 35-week campaign trail.
We'll see how that works.
Let us go to Bernie, Texas.
Got a couple of minutes before the bottom of the hour.
And, Joni, that is you.
Pleasure to have a Lone Star State caller.
How you doing?
Hey, Mark.
Thanks for filling in for Rush.
My pleasure.
Yeah, my thoughts are with him, too.
My husband and I early voted last Thursday, and I was really thinking about filling in the Hillary circle on the ballot.
But when the poll worker asked me, Republican or Democrat, my tongue stuck in my throat, and I just couldn't bring myself to spit out the D-word.
I know it is a weird moment for you.
I couldn't tempt myself.
I just couldn't do it.
And Fred Thompson was still on the ballot, and he was my first choice, so I just circled the Fred Thompson survey.
Do you share my foggy brain on why Fred's candidacy went precisely nowhere?
Oh, it went nowhere because he took too long getting started, I think.
But listen, if enough people were as jazzed about him as you were or as I was, if enough people were stoked, it would have gone somewhere.
And it just didn't.
Joni, thank you.
I appreciate it a lot.
Now, many of you around the country, as we wrap up the first half hour here, are starting to scratch your heads and go, early voting?
What the heck is that?
Well, Texas is one of many states.
It was from like the 19th to the 29th.
I don't need to beat you down with one of my local crusades, but I hate early voting.
I believe everybody should be voting today, and you shouldn't have been at the polls two weeks ago.
I'll rant about that some more if you want as we progress.
In the meantime, let me just tell you that I'm Mark Davis.
This is the Rush Limbaugh Show, and I'm glad to be filling in today.
Let's get Rush healthy and back in the seat tomorrow here on the EIB Network.
1-800-282-2882.
1-800-282-2882.
Thanks, Johnny.
1-800-282-2882.
I'm Mark Davis in Texas.
So that works out pretty well.
If Rush has to be sick one day, and we hate that he is, at least you can have a fill-in guy from a newsworthy nucleus of developments.
And that is certainly what Texas is.
And Ohio.
And let's give props to the good people of Rhode Island and Vermont as well so that they don't feel disenfranchised, an oft-overused word.
All righty, let's dive back into some more of your calls.
If you go to Los Angeles and you head inland toward like Barstow, you eventually get to Hellendale, California, where Faith joins us.
Hi, Faith.
Mark Davis.
You're on the Rush Limbaugh Show.
How are you?
Hi, Mark.
I'm great.
This is short and to the point.
Hillary, in the last debate, missed an opportunity when Barack Obama referred to Al-Qaeda.
He said, the Al-Qaeda officials.
I think he said it twice.
My jaw just dropped.
And I tried to, why isn't anybody saying anything about this?
Nobody mentioned a word about it.
If you find a sound bite, you'll see it.
I think he mentioned it twice, but I was just in such jaw-dropping awe.
I couldn't.
Help me out.
Al-Qaeda officials helped me out with what the missed opportunity was.
That's what Barack Obama referred to al-Qaeda, the al-Qaeda terrorists.
He said, Oh, gotcha.
So instead of referring to them as the blood-sucking terrorist hordes that they are, he gave them a sort of a mantle of respectability by referring to them as officials.
Yes.
And he didn't jump on the opportunity.
Well, can I suggest why that might have been?
Why?
It's because a lot of people might not have been as attentive to that word choice issue as you are.
Having explained it to me, which I needed a couple of minutes for you to do, I now get it.
And, you know, good point.
You know, it's a thoroughly worthy point.
You know, never miss out on an opportunity to slap al-Qaeda around the head with a noxious, uncomplimentary noun, by all means.
But truth be told, Al-Qaeda does have officials.
And it was not an inaccurate thing to call them.
And maybe that just, we all hear things a little differently.
And so I don't debate your point.
I think you got a good one.
But the notion that there was something the matter because Hillary didn't say, what?
What are you doing referring to them as officials?
Maybe not so much.
But I love you.
Thanks, Faith.
Appreciate it.
Let us head next.
Oh, my gosh.
It's a vein of Texans.
I don't know if I've attracted this.
And a vein of Texans is always a good thing to hit, by the way.
Let's go to Beaumont.
Hello, Al, Mark Davis in for Rush Limbaugh.
Pleasure to have you, sir.
It's good to be on.
How are you doing today?
Doing great.
Yeah, I was just calling.
I'm an African-American, 67 years old.
This is the first time I voted Democrat since Jimmy Carter, and I regretted voting for Jeff Carter.
Appropriate.
Yeah.
And the reason I did this time, it was hard, like the lady said earlier, when they asked whether you're Republican or Democrat.
I just had to think for a moment, but I voted for Obama for this simple reason.
I felt like if I voted for Hillary, I felt like Hillary have a better chance of beating McCain than Obama.
I think McCain could beat Obama.
All right, why would that be?
So McCain would beat him, but not her.
I guarantee I could go to 14 calls who feel exactly the opposite, and we could hold this roundtable all day.
But while I've got you, what is it that makes you think that she is stronger against McCain than he is?
Well, it's just the click that they got.
He don't have the, he's doing well in the primaries and stuff like that, but they really got the machine.
They dropped the ball in February and they're trying to get it back up and running.
But I think that, you know, he would do better running against Obama than Hillary.
I think Hillary would beat him.
And my guy, my guy was Huckabee.
And I also liked that Fred, but Fred just came out too late.
He should have come out in the very beginning and come out running instead of just dragging his fingers.
Now, now I think you've got it.
The lateness wasn't, because listen, nobody said that lateness was a problem when he was thinking about running.
When he went on Fox News Sunday and told Chris Wallace, yep, I'm thinking about running.
We all convulsed with glee.
Nobody said, oh, it's too late.
You can't.
I mean, some people did.
But it didn't make it a deal breaker.
It's too late for me to get excited about Fred.
A ton of people were excited about Fred for seemingly about a week.
And then, in fact, Fred's actual campaign turned out to be not nearly as exciting as the anticipation of Fred's campaign.
Al, thank you.
My best to everybody in Beaumont.
All right, so there's Al's analysis that McCain beats Obama but doesn't beat Hillary.
Now, for equal time, let me have somebody who thinks that he beats Hillary, but not Obama.
And then to referee the whole thing, I'll take 60 seconds right now and tell you why McCain beats them both.
All right.
Part of it is a little politically incorrect.
So I warn you in advance.
You're prone to swooning.
You know, stand by.
Don't drive.
Bad cases make bad law.
So a McCain victory over Hillary Clinton does not mean that America was not ready for a woman president.
It just means that America wasn't ready for her.
A McCain victory over Barack Obama does not mean that America was not ready for a black president.
It means they weren't ready for this black president.
The list of flaws on these folks is long.
Hillary is a fairly inept campaigner.
and is one of the most reviled women in recent American political history.
Hello.
Barack Obama is as glib and smooth as any politician would like to be, but has a thin resume that is the kind of thing to give people pause.
So I think McCain beats both of them.
Now, and those are reasons that don't have anything to do with race or gender.
But I do want to tell you something about race and about gender.
I've always had the feeling that the first time a woman is the actual nominee or the first time that an African American is the actual nominee, not a Jesse Jackson candidacy or Shirley Chisholm or Geraldine Ferraro as your running mate like Mondale had in 1984.
No, I mean the first actual major party nominee who is either black or female.
First time out, they're going to lose.
They're just going to lose because there's X amount of Americans that are not going to vote for a woman and not going to vote for a black guy.
And yes, I'm talking about even the high-minded, enlightened Democrats among us.
There's a certain percentage of them that just aren't going to vote for a woman or aren't going to vote for the black guy.
Now, is that 20% of them?
3% of them?
7%?
I don't know.
But whatever it is, in a close election, it's a killer.
Now, the second time that we get a black candidate or a woman candidate, first of all, please let it be a Republican.
Condi Rice could settle both scores, thank you.
You know, maybe J.C. Watts, who everybody just has an enormous love affair with down here in Texas, that would be great.
It would depend on, I have no qualm about either a black candidate or a female candidate, depending on what's in his or her head and heart.
That's what guides me.
And I think that's what guides 80% of everybody or 90 or 95.
But what about the other side of that coin?
What about the three or five or 10 or 11% of America that just won't vote for a woman and won't vote for a black guy?
You know that exists.
And all the intelligentsia, all the analysts gather together and they'll never say this.
And I don't offer this up like, oh, I'm so much braver than they are.
And, you know, hurumph hurumph, I'm the voice for clarity.
I just don't think it occurs to them.
You get a panel show inside the beltway.
You know, how'd you like to be the guy who raises his hand and says, yeah, how about the fact that some people aren't going to vote for a black guy?
Or yeah, how about the fact that there are a ton of people who won't vote for a woman?
Oh, and by the way, some of them are women.
If you do a talk show anywhere in America, especially in the South or Southwest, which is where the bulk of my experience is, you start talking about the notion of a woman president.
Do you know where some of the harshest pushback comes from?
Women.
Women on the phone saying, shoot, no, I don't want a woman president.
Now, are they self-loathing?
I don't think so.
It's just an opinion they have.
So anyway, that's how it breaks down.
That is why McCain beats either one of them.
You know, that's just it.
That's just it.
And that's not phony, you know, conservative overconfidence.
I know it's 35 weeks away.
McCain could run an incredibly inept campaign that could change the landscape.
You know, I don't know.
But that's my short, okay, not so short book on why McCain beats either one of them.
Is McCain the best Republican candidate we could have put up?
I don't know.
I'd love to re-rack history and put up Mitt Rodney or put up Mike Accaveer or have Rudy's Florida strategy work.
Yeah, that would have been nice.
But as it is, McCain is who we have, and that's why I believe he beats either one of them.
Okay, thank you.
I'll shut up now and give you the phone number once again and get us into a quick break and out the other side and back on the phones with you.
1-800-282-2882-1-800-282-2882.
I'm Mark Davis in Dallas Fort Worth, filling in for Rush on the EIB Network.
Be right back on the Excellence in Broadcasting Network.
It's the Rush Limbaugh Show.
The quicker listeners among you will notice: hey, wait a minute, that's not Rush.
I know, sorry.
Rush onto the weather.
I'm Mark Davis filling in from Texas.
So that's kind of cool, huh?
Next best thing would be somebody in Texas or somebody in Ohio.
So I'm in Texas, and we've got a lot of callers here in my state and also in Ohio.
Let's go to them and see what's going on there in the other state that sort of wields the biggest bat in terms of either finishing Hillary once and for all or giving her the leg up she needs to make it a game again.
We are in Fremont, Ohio.
Vicki, hi, Mark Davis, and you're on the Rush Limbaugh Show.
Well, hi, Mark.
I wanted to send this Git while I wish to Rush by telling him I supported him today, and I voted Democratic 59 for the first time.
One of the hardest things I've ever done, and I marked Hillary's box.
My husband and I listen to Rush every day, and we love listening to him.
And my husband pulled me out of bed and told me we needed to get to our little farm town and vote today.
And after three hours of the voting booth being open, I heard the lady say that they needed to go get some more Democratic ballots.
Wow.
That they were running out.
And it's the farmers supporting Rush and I hope I can say Glenn Beck and telling us to vote for Hillary.
I told my husband, Noel, if it backfires, he owed me dinner once a month for the rest of the year, and he'd have to listen to her cackle.
That's right.
The punishment is steep.
The hormonal changes instead of hearing just one from me in his house at 59 with the cackle and hormonal changes.
Well, if Rush is right, you did the right thing.
And please, I mean, come on.
And if, and if I, on a different vein, if I'm right about McCain beats either one of them, then it ultimately is moot.
It doesn't matter, and McCain wins anyway.
So let's all just clasp our hands and see how this all works in Ohio and Texas and elsewhere.
Vicki, thank you very, very much.
I appreciate it.
Let us roll to the Big Apples.
Go to New York City.
Irene, hi, Mark Davis, and you are on the Rush Limbaugh show.
Nice to have you.
Hi, Mark.
I think it's a silly strategy about Hillary Clinton.
They're going to use everything.
She will be the nomination.
They'll use his age, 72 years old this year, skin cancer.
He's got melanoma.
He looks very weak, John McCain, and Hillary Clinton can beat him in a minute.
The idea was to get rid of the Clintons today, not to go vote for her.
Now she's going to easily beat Barack Obama for the nomination, and I bet you she will be the president.
Wow.
The Clinton machine, oh, please, there'll be July surprises, August surprises.
Well, here's the thing.
You look at his skin.
Skin cancer and he's.
Okay, enough on the skin cancer.
Enough melanoma references.
First of all, for a 71-year-old guy, I dream of having that kind of energy when I'm 61.
So I don't think that McCain comes across as some kind of doddering relic.
One of two things for you being there in New York at the nucleus of her power: either you have an overstated notion of the kind of machine that she will wield, or you're really on to something and the rest of us are asleep at the switch.
I don't know which it is.
Do you have the confidence that it sounds like you have that she turns it around tonight, wins Texas, wins Ohio, Ohio, and just somehow wangles the nomination?
I mean, are you really confident about that?
Well, yeah, because Barack Obama, they're already asking him questions and all this stuff about his, you know, Tony Resco and all that stuff that's coming out and the Canadian thing.
But McCain could have easily beaten Barack Obama.
That's right.
Well, I don't know about easily, but I'm with you on McCain over Obama.
And can I just ask you while I have you with another minute or so left in the segment?
If you believe that Hillary beats McCain, you got to, okay, well, then there's the answer because I really believe that McCain will get the kind of independent vote that will hurt her, that quite frankly, being a woman first time out does hurt her, being reviled by so many, her high negatives hurts her, but you believe that she will, in characteristic Clinton fashion, be able to come up with some way to just savage him.
Well, she's got plenty of money.
Yes.
Yeah, he could have, it's too bad that, you know, I wish Obama would have had, I hope he does get the nomination because he's easily to beat.
He's like an empty suit almost.
Okay.
But the Clinton, you know, they've been around for 50, 30, 40 years, whatever.
They can really say some terrible things about McCain for, you know, his age.
They can, you know, the skin cancer for crying out loud.
Sure.
Irene.
Listen, thank you very, very much.
I appreciate it.
All right.
Now, I mean, one of two things is true.
Either Irene is just so close to the phenomenon that she just views Hillary as some godzilla of politics that will be able to crush McCain like a bad 1964 Japanese movie, or maybe it's a little overstated.
Maybe she has seen the machine up close and overstates its power.
That's what I kind of think.
I'm well aware of what the Clintons can do.
I've seen them try.
We've all seen them try around America.
We saw what was going on in South Carolina.
Is McCain immune from such things?
Well, let's ask the New York Times about their latest attempt to smear him.
I don't know.
I don't know.
I feel pretty good that we're not going to find something really disgusting about John McCain that gives us another reason to pause in support of his candidacy.
All right.
More of you coming up in just a moment.
I'm Mark Davis filling in for Rush Limbaugh today.
It's the EIB Network, and we'll continue.
Boy, how many Bentleys can this guy drive?
Little Rod Stewart, the Bumper Music Library on the Rush Limbaugh Show.
We have the Rod the Rocker invocation.
This was sort of Rod, the chick rock act.
And now we have Rod putting out the great American songbook stuff and Sleepless in Seattle.
Good for him, man.
You know what the difference is between Rod Stewart and Eric Clapton?
People still care about what Rod Stewart's recording.
If you go see Clapton, you don't want to hear anything that's more recent than 25 years old.
Sorry.
Wow, was that out loud?
Okay, let us ta-ta-ta-ta.
Yeah, real quick, let us go to Tallahassee because we had the lady in New York saying that Obama is beatable.
I believe they're both beatable, Obama and Hillary.
Now here's Bill in Tallahassee who says Obama is not beatable just to fully triangulate.
Bill, welcome to the Rush Limbaugh Show.
Mark Davis, how you doing?
Good.
How you doing, Mark?
Very well.
Yeah, based on your arguments from earlier, it's all based on logic.
And I'm a police officer here in Florida.
And just knowing people, that's not really what drives most people, unfortunately.
Well, so you feel the Obama groundswell is real and that tons of young people are actually going to the tons of young people really are going to vote?
No, great.
My worst nightmare.
Cell phones.
Unfortunately, I don't know.
You know, historically, they don't turn out whenever the time comes to actually.
Well, exactly right.
And that's why I am pretty confident that the Obama mania is not the kind of thing that is all that appreciable in November, because what you end up having, and I'm not fond of quoting James Carville, but he does say that there's something that there's a term for the candidate that relies on the youth vote.
That term is loser.
And I believe that.
So I really don't think that all those college kids, they didn't vote for McGovern in the middle of an unpopular war.
So I just believe that history in that way will repeat itself.
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