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January 17, 2008, Thursday, Hour #2

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	I know, I know, I know.
	I'm just making sure the volumes adjusted right.
	Greetings, my friends, and welcome back.
	Rush Limbaugh, talent on loan from God.
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	I have a couple of audio sound bites from the previous hour that I meant to get in.
	We got a little bit out of order there.
	First one is from Senator McCain.
	The second one is from Governor Huckabee.
	This was on the on the big story last night, the Fox News Channel, John Gibson show, uh with Senator McCain, and Gibson said, Senator, there's been, as you know, there's kind of a conservative conservative campaign against you from a lineup of conservative talk show hosts and think tanks.
	Uh what do you say to the conservatives who are asking themselves, is McCain conservative enough?
	In New Hampshire, we won all segments of the Republican base.
	And I believe, again, conservative Republicans are most concerned about the issue of our nation's security.
	I think it's clear that my involvement in every national security challenge for the last twenty years will I think attract a good portion of them, and most of them, I hope.
	And I think I'll match my conservative record up against anybody's that's running, and I don't switch positions either.
	All right.
	Now there's something, you know, I I'm I'm I'm tempted to just leave this alone.
	Uh you know, Mr. Brooks, David Brooks was on the news hour with Jim O'Lara, uh saying it's a listening to Limbaugh this week, and he seems to have thrown in with uh with Romney.
	I haven't thrown in with anybody.
	All I'm doing, folks, as you who listen regularly know, is simply giving you my reactions as the news happens.
	I've not endorsed anybody, and I'm certainly not uh implying an endorsement of anyone uh on the uh on the program.
	Uh you know, we're just we're just reacting to some things as we react to any other uh any other news story.
	Uh McCain says, I uh I think I'll match my conservative record up against anybody that's running.
	Okay, now see that's that's pretty clever.
	It's pretty clever because one of uh one of the laments among a lot of conservatives is that we don't have a thoroughbred out there.
	That every one of these guys has some sort of uh question mark about them that you can go to in their past.
	As I said once, the only guy that that that doesn't have to defend a prior liberal governing stance or moderate governing stance, i well, and it's not even totally is Thompson.
	But even Thompson went along with McCain on on the campaign finance reform thing.
	So nobody is a thoroughbred out there.
	We're not looking for purity.
	We're looking for people who want to beat liberals, not join them, and not have them join us.
	That's not the future.
	Do you ever hear, do you ever hear the liberals saying, you hear Obama and these guys running around saying we need to go out and attract conservatives to our party.
	We need to find out how to broaden our base.
	Do you do you think if any one of those candidates, be it Obama, be it Mrs. Clinton, be it the Breck girl, started talking in ways that would attract somebody like me.
	Do you think that their party put up with it?
	Do you think that that in order to win?
	They promise the middle class tax cut, but they don't deliver the thing.
	You know, uh it it's it works when the Democrats run conservative Democrats and local state House of Representatives elections.
	Like they, you know, that's how they won the House last year's running it's another thing that bugs me.
	When the Democrats do want to win, uh, especially in local house race, they start they run Democrats or conservatives, conservative Democrats.
	And they win.
	And our own side wants to shock and jive conservatism.
	Sweep it aside as something that's an antique, needs to be modernized and so forth.
	It's uh it's it's it's patently absurd.
	Now, having said that, it is very interesting to listen to Obama cite Reagan.
	But, and this embarrasses me.
	He's citing Reagan in great ways.
	He's not citing Reagan on policy.
	He wouldn't dare do that.
	And he's taken a risk doing it anyway.
	I mean, that group over there despises Reagan even more than some of the country club blue blood Republicans on our side despised Reagan.
	And make no mistake, they did.
	Nevertheless, he's out there citing Reagan, but he's doing it in the in the uh uh context of attitudes and uh uh uplifting sentiments, optimism and hope and and uh uh inspiration and these the kind of things our people ought to be doing.
	Obama's out there doing.
	I'll have more on this because Pete Wayner, uh my buddy from the White House, who's now at uh at uh Norman Pedoritz's shop uh commentary, uh running a blog over there, uh published a piece today, and I want to get to it as the program unfolds.
	All right, here's Huckabee up next.
	Uh this was from the Morning Joe, Joe Scarborough show on PMS NBC.
	By the way, did you hear?
	Uh Cookie, don't you don't need to go get the audio of this because it's very short, and I'm I'm just gonna pass this on.
	We don't need to uh have you sweat and slave in there while you're trying to fix your iPhone.
	Uh speaking of the iPhone, you know, they got a big software update.
	It's cool, it's got some neat things on it.
	But the one thing it needs that they haven't done yet, it's sort of frustrating.
	And don't ask, you know, I get people all the time.
	Do you have any power with Apple?
	Do I have any power with Apple?
	You know, Apple's as embarrassed that I use their products as Democrats would be if they welcome me into the party.
	Uh but they need a clipboard.
	They need cut and paste on the thing.
	So you can cut and paste something from an email to text message it to somebody.
	Or you can cut and paste an address or what it it's gotta be simple to do, but they haven't done it yet.
	Uh and I thought with a software update it came up.
	Version 1.1.3.
	No, I've not lost my place.
	Version 1.1.3 that they would put that in.
	They got some cool things in there, some really nice.
	Now, I'm not um just you know the thing that I would really wanted on this thing since I got it was cut and paste clipboard.
	And it isn't there.
	Now, MSNB said, I'm watching uh uh Scarborough and Mika Brzezinski.
	Uh Mika Bzinski, the daughter of Zabigniev Brzezinski, the uh the the national security advisor to the peanut farmer, Jimmy Carter.
	And are talking about conservatives and and uh and in the presidential, and Mika Brzezinski says, I I don't have any problem with morality in politics.
	You don't have any problem with and that was somehow big news.
	The secularists are all over.
	No, of course I don't have any problem with morale.
	It's like I can I can stomach morality.
	Stomach it.
	See, that's the one thing that Pete writes about today in his piece on Obama and Reagan.
	The one thing even I have forgotten to point out that one of the most fundamental aspects of Ronald Reagan's success was his the morality of everything that he brought into play.
	He knew the Soviet Union would implode on the basis of its own immorality if we just gave it the right nudge.
	And he thinks uh thought the same thing of liberalism, its own immorality.
	If you give it the right nudge, it'll implode on its on itself.
	Uh Reagan's morality was a fundamental aspect of of who he was and how he took the uh concepts, the precepts, the context and principles of conservatism and applied them to the issues of his day.
	All right.
	That's what I distracted myself.
	I didn't forget any of it.
	Now back to Huckabee, who this all started, I say was on on Scarborough show on PMS NBC yesterday.
	Uh he says that there is a conspiracy out to get him.
	There's so much negative.
	It's amazing.
	I'm the only guy that's just getting hammered from some of these special interest groups.
	And I think that'll really turn for me and against some of these folks, because it's pretty obvious that there's got to be almost this I don't want to use the word conspiracy, but there's just an anxiety that exists in uh the Washington power circles about our candidacy.
	So that that's that's another way of stating the Washington New York Axis.
	The Wall Street DC axis.
	The one the one I belong to, so his mythical advisor said that I was a member of, but Huckabee said no.
	Well, he didn't say no, he said, we don't know who said it, so I can't respond to it.
	But see that David Brooks is Washington New York Axis.
	I'm not that.
	You know, I'm not trying to put Brooks down to the I'm not there's no feud here.
	Grab cut 17.
	We got one more Huckabee audio sound bite.
	Uh this was also on uh you got it.
	Couldn't tell from your facial.
	You had a vacant lookout there, looked like you couldn't find it.
	Like it.
	All right.
	Again on Scarborough Show yesterday.
	This is uh this well, just Huckabee.
	I bet you never did this.
	When I was in college, we used to take a popcorn popper, because that was the only thing that they could let us use in the dorms, and we would fry squirrel and pop dorm room.
	Oh my.
	How could I kid it?
	We don't yet have white comedian Paul Shanklin doing an impersonation of Huckabee.
	That was Huckabee.
	No, I'm not.
	Play it again.
	That was Huckabee on Scarborough yesterday.
	Play it.
	I bet you never did this.
	When I was in college, we used to take a popcorn popper, because that was the only thing that they could let us use in the dorms, and we would fry squirrel and pop dorm room.
	Oh that you never did.
	Okay.
	Well, I don't think he's reaching out to the culinary workers because they're in Vegas.
	He's in South Carolina.
	Uh but but this is this is the kind of thing that the drive by is think, oh, just makes him salivate.
	Please, God, nominate this guy.
	Please.
	Please, by the way, Obama, Obama has come out for animal rights.
	You want to hear pure pandering.
	The squirrels are safe because Obama Obama hears that Huckabee fried squirrels at a popcorn popper.
	Uh Democrat Barack Obama in Nevada says he won't just be president for the American people, but for the animals too.
	A woman shouted during his town hall meeting outside Vegas uh yesterday.
	He was discussing uh issues that relate more to humans, uh, like war, health care, and the economy, and some liberal babe in the audience said, What about animal rights?
	Obama responded he cares about animal rights very much, quote, not only because I have a nine-year-old and a six-year-old who want a dog.
	He said he sponsored a bill to prevent horse slaughter in the Illinois State Senate and has been repeatedly endorsed by the humane society.
	I think how we treat our animals reflects how we treat each other, he said, and it's very important that we have a president who is mindful of the cruelty perpetrated on animals.
	I'm not I'm not I'm not kidding.
	I'm not I'll tell you what I'm laughing at this because this is it's important.
	And I can just see these these liberals in the audience, their tongues hanging out, soaking all this up.
	He's re he's reintroducing America here, Mr. Snerdley.
	What Leahy said, we need to reintroduce America to America.
	And this is it.
	A president who is mindful of the cruelty perpetrated on animals.
	Let's see.
	What did Obama say here?
	It's very important that we have a president who is mindful of the cruelty perpetrated on animals.
	Wonder what he thinks of Michael Vick.
	Get the Vic vote.
	Or ignore the uh Vic vote.
	If Huckabee's elected president, you think we now have an idea what the menu would be at the first state dinner?
	Fried squirrel.
	I got a note.
	North Carolina mistress is upset with me.
	Can't tell you why.
	Uh, because I never know why.
	I just know she's upset.
	This very snarky email between frying squirrel and a corn popper.
	What's the difference in frying squirrel and a corn popper and killing a mouse in a garbage can while spraying Pam on it like you did.
	Very simple.
	I didn't eat the mouse.
	But the I you know what I'm gonna do.
	I'm gonna I'm gonna call my buddies, Bobby and Tad Hathoff up at Allen Bros.
	Do you guys have squirrel?
	You've never said anything about it.
	But it's obviously a delicacy in certain parts of the country.
	And if you got squirrel, maybe you have Kobe Squirrel.
	You know, when they massage the squirrel to make sure the fat's marbled throughout.
	We could be on the verge of something huge here.
	All right, back to the phones we go.
	This is Randy and Arlington.
	Now, not back, but two, in uh Arlington, Texas.
	Great to have you on the program.
	Welcome.
	Yes, sir, Rush.
	Just want to say I've been listening since I was in the seventh grade.
	My mom would uh record the show for me, and I would uh listen when I got home from school.
	That's that's fabulous.
	So you're you you are a genuine true rush baby.
	Absolutely.
	My question is, uh, what's gonna be better for our country?
	Four years of a Democrat president or John McCain as the Republican nominee.
	Well, uh, you know, that's that that that you people are really making this tough on me.
	But I that's that's that's why I'm here.
	I handle the tough things.
	I think I can only tell you what I've said.
	I I don't think there's gonna be a Republican president if he's a nominee.
	I mean, that that's I think it's I I think it's a moot point.
	I I think the question is not relevant.
	And that's see, that's my point.
	Uh I I just I I worry, I worry about that.
	I think that's an automatic election of either Hillary or Obama, whoever surfaces on that side.
	That's just me.
	I could be wrong.
	That is just me.
	All right.
	What do you make of the head-to-head polls that say McCain is, you know, the best one to beat Hillary or Obama?
	Uh, same thing I made of the polls in New Hampshire that said Obama was going to beat her by five to twelve points.
	The polls taken on a on an election in November of this year, polls taken a day, mean nothing.
	If polls six, seven months out meant something, Rudy Giuliani would be the party nominee today, and the primaries would have confirmed that.
	Because six months ago, well, seven now, Rudy Giuliani owned everything.
	He was the Republican, and nobody was even close, and this before Huckabee had officially gotten even in it.
	Uh, I'm telling you, polls right now are being driven by the drive-bys, the drive-by they're in their own poll it bureau, and their purpose of polls is to make news and shape public opinion, not reflect it.
	Uh I'm telling you that you all you need to do, check out who the drive-by's think our stars are and go the opposite way.
	They are not interested in promoting conservatism or conservatives.
	They want to destroy it.
	Our guys don't get this.
	They want to defeat conservatives.
	They want to get rid of us as a competitive force.
	We ought to have the same attitude about them.
	We don't.
	We're trying to find ways to make them understand us.
	We're trying to make inroads so that they like us.
	So they might even join us when they're not even interested in that.
	You know, this whole business of trying to do how many, how many of you how many of you in your personal life know somebody that hates you or dislikes you?
	We all have that.
	How much time do you waste trying to figure out why?
	It's a lost cause.
	Unless, of course, happens to be your spouse, then you got to deal with that.
	Uh, but I mean, if it's just somebody at work, they hate you, you go nuts trying to figure it out.
	And the biggest mistake you can make is trying to be what they want you to be after you think you fall uh figured it out.
	It's not that isn't gonna work, and it certainly doesn't work because you're not being who you are.
	I told you I ran across this little one-sentence saying the other day, and I it really made an impact on me, and I think that there is some validity to it in a lot of applications.
	And it is this remember, people who hate you really want to be you.
	And that's probably closer to the truth than the fact that they genuinely hate you.
	Some of you people, I'm sure, are genuinely hateful and worthy of being hated.
	There are some, you know, bad actors in in uh in every group of people.
	But most of you aren't.
	And yet somebody still hate if you're gonna worry about why, and that's what our party's doing.
	Why, why, why do they so misunderstand us?
	Why do they think we're racist and sexist?
	And then we got people who want to go out and prove to the genuine racists and sexist that they're not.
	Can give you an example.
	Uh 200 1996, vice presidential debate.
	Al Gore, the incumbent, and Jack Kemp, who ran along with Bob Dole.
	You remember what Al Gore did in that debate on many things?
	He singled out Kemp.
	And by the way, Jack, I don't have to paraphrase this.
	He singled out Kemp.
	He said, by the way, Jack, I want to congratulate you for not being one of the bigots and the racists in your party.
	And Kemp said, Thank you, Mr. Vice President.
	There was smoke.
	There was smoke all along the Washington, New York access.
	and all over the country.
	We've got too many people on our side who want that kind of approval from the people who are the real racists, bigots, sexists, or what have you.
	And it's it's just it's just maddening.
	So to go on trying to get these people's approval, um, cements the fact that we think we're a minority, we have to explain ourselves.
	We're always on defense.
	You can stuff that.
	Actual terror on the part of the left at the very mention of my name.
	Uh welcome back, uh, ladies and gentlemen.
	Let's go to audio sum by number seven.
	So Barack Obama.
	Uh, you know, there's a big fight out there over the culinary union uh voting or having its caucus in the casinos.
	Uh out there and the uh Obama uh endorsement, the culinary union, the culinary union is uh intimidating, according to some.
	The union leadership is intimidating members to go out there and vote for Obama.
	Uh, and uh so that's that's one controversy.
	The other controversy is uh Clinton Inc.
	through a subgroup, a bunch of teachers trying to file a lawsuit to get the caucuses in the casinos canceled and uh and not permitted.
	Uh and Obama talked about that.
	Uh portion of his remarks here in a campaign rally.
	This is last Saturday, actually, in Vegas.
	Are we gonna let a bunch of lawyers try to prevent us from bringing about change in America?
	Are we gonna let folks change the rules when they don't work for them?
	So they Obama's out there saying that Clinton Inc.
	is trying to prevent him from bringing about change.
	Robert Johnson, the uh founder of BET, the uh black uh entertainment uh television network has apologized to Obama after first saying, Oh, and I apologize.
	I wasn't talking about anything, but his community organization, organizing out there, but now he's he's fessed up.
	Uh and and really what this is, folks, you have to understand how Clinton Inc.
	works.
	Remember when they sent all these people out there to apologize for saying uh Obama used cocaine?
	They had never said they keep the story alive with the apology.
	And that's what I think they're doing here with old Bob Johnson.
	They sent him out there in Columbia, South Carolina at a rally uh rally with Mrs. Clinton.
	As an African American, I am frankly insulted that the Obama campaign would imply that we are so stupid that we would think Hillary and Bill Clinton, who have been deeply and emotionally involved in black issues when Barack Obama was doing something in the neighborhood that I won't say what he was doing, but he said it in his book.
	All right, now this is what he's apologized for.
	He's apologized to Obama, but that's what he said on on Sunday.
	Uh and and here don't forget the line about about uh guess who's coming to dinner in Sydney Poitiers.
	Now, for those of you who are and I know many of you in this country are not racist, and this audience are not racist.
	You don't understand this, the code lingo here, but what what Johnson's saying in this next bite, he's calling Obama and Uncle Tom without using the term.
	That kind of campaign behavior does not resonate with me for a guy who says I want to be a reasonable, likable Sidney Portier, guess who's coming to dinner?
	Is calling him an Uncle Tom there.
	Now we don't have uh Bob Johnson's apology.
	Uh I don't think it's in the roster here, but he has apologized out there uh to Barack uh Obama, which is just a way of keeping all this alive.
	See, we we played it again here.
	This is part of their strategy.
	Even we fell into the conspiracy here without thinking about it.
	Played this whole thing again.
	All right, to the phones.
	Uh, Kimberly In Sarasota, Florida.
	Nice to have you on the EIB network.
	Hello.
	Russ, you've got to be kidding me.
	I thought we had come so far as women voters to know that there are women out there that are willing to vote for somebody because they talk a good talk and because they're good looking.
	Did we not learn anything from read my lips?
	I mean, these these people have to know you have to research a record.
	I don't like Romney.
	Kimberly.
	Oh, what do you are you talk you you're talking about?
	Romney, and you're talking about the the mittens that called here yesterday?
	Yes, sir.
	Well, we had some we had three women that called here yesterday, and they were just gaga over mid.
	I think they were happy one, but they were gaga over him on it wasn't good looks, it was substance.
	Well, absolutely.
	And and it's it's not that I don't like him, but I'm just saying that we have to look at these people's records to know where they have voted and how they're going to vote.
	And you don't think they did that?
	Well, I don't know.
	They were so gonga over how good he looked and how good he talked that I I don't know if they've done any research on his record.
	You gotta tell me what they said that uh uh has has caused this reaction and you'll be embarrassed of uh of your sisters.
	No, when you say you you started out by saying I you can't believe there are women out there who were thinking and talking this way, haven't we learned anything?
	What did you hear them say that embarrassed you?
	Well, I wouldn't say that I was personally embarrassed because I don't let anybody offend me, but I I just think that when you are looking into voting for a president, you you don't look at somebody's top side features or how they talk, because we've heard the ellips parts before in the past, and you you really need to be able to do that.
	Wait a minute, read my read my lips was George H. W. Bush.
	I know it was, sir.
	I know I thought you might have meant Clinton and an ellipse elsewhere.
	Well, well, because there was nothing waited, there was nothing.
	George W George H. W. Bush was was not, you know, classically good looking and a modelish type of what's and I thought you might have meant Clinton was.
	You know, do you remember how women were swooning over Clinton?
	Absolutely.
	That's why uh that's why I thought you meant Clinton and read my lips, and I was, you know, getting really some strange images as I was making the association of those two.
	No, I just really think that we really need to pay attention to the records of these gentlemen on their immigration policy.
	All right, so you've done that.
	So who I assume if you have you have a candidate you support?
	Absolutely.
	Fred Thompson is my man.
	Okay.
	He seems to be the only conservative out there.
	I mean, Romney is great physically, uh, I understand, but there have been some bad decisions.
	Well, yeah, no, it's it's um this this nomination process for for a lot of Republicans, Kimberly, and I don't know, I'm not gonna lump you in this.
	I don't know if it's true for you.
	For a lot of Republican voters, it's gonna be picking the one we dislike the least.
	Well, and I'd rather have Hillary in the White House than I would John McCain, because I don't want him to destroy the name of the Conservative Party.
	Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa.
	You you would rather have Hillary in the White House than McCain.
	That came out of left field.
	I I would because she can take what's gonna happen to the country instead of the conservatives having to take the the responsibility for what's gonna happen if McCain gets elected.
	Okay, so your theory is if somebody's gonna destroy the country, let Democrats do it so we can put it back together after they make a shambles.
	Absolutely.
	Well, that's I kind of like that kind of thinking.
	If you're gonna destroy the country, let's not be part of it.
	Um worried about who being destroyed?
	The brand.
	Exactly.
	Well look at I she's worried about the brand, conservatism being distracting.
	Have I not made that clear?
	That's a good have I not made that I okay, good because I mean maybe I may need to say that more forcefully.
	But I think, frankly, that that Kimberly here, you're right.
	Whether you swerved into it or not, you've had a head-on collision with accuracy here.
	Uh I really think that there are some in our own party who are just as eager to rid the party of us conservatives as Democrats are to defeat us.
	And I think the destruction of conservatism would happen with certain of these candidates being nominated in ways that perhaps you might not understood not you might not be foreseeing yourself.
	And I'm not prepared to go there yet because I'm not convinced we're gonna be faced with that possibility.
	But if I if I am convinced at some point down the road we're gonna be faced with that possibility, I will be uh wide open about it.
	But that is she's exactly right.
	In the process of the Republican Party losing big, conservatism is gonna get the blame.
	And believe me, folks, you have no idea how many people in the Republican Party would love to just broom as much of conservatism out of the fundamental structure of the Republican Party as they could.
	Uh brief time out.
	We'll be back and continue with much more here on the EIB network after this.
	And we are back, Rush Limbaugh meeting and surpassing all audience expectations.
	Don't doubt me.
	A lot of people have, and they have suffered the consequences.
	Heather in uh Pittsburgh, North Carolina.
	Nice to have you.
	I'm glad you waited.
	Welcome.
	Hello, Rush.
	Nice to be on.
	Thanks so much for having me.
	You bet.
	Um, I actually want to touch on a very valid point about John McCain and and his legislation that threatens uh conservative grassroots activism.
	But Rush, I've got to touch on your caller Kimberly, how she just mentioned the women that called your show yesterday.
	Yes.
	I listened to the program and and Rush, I appreciate you for empowering these good tax fighting, limited government loving, tartar school choosing women who love Matt Romney.
	I'll be one of those Smith and Mintons.
	I am, and I'll admit it, but I can tell you about his record.
	Uh first let's let's let's examine the record.
	Look at the Olympics.
	He went into a scandal-ridden Olympics.
	You know, bankruptcy.
	Heather, let me interrupt you.
	I wasn't gonna get to this till next time, but you've given me a good transition here.
	Uh because I got two stories here on the Democrat side.
	First of an ABC News blog, uh Hillary Clinton pouncing on Barack Obama uh saying that she's ready to be a CEO and a COO, and Obama isn't.
	Hillary is ready.
	And David Broder today in the Washington Post, a Democrat field without an executive.
	He says by contrast, the Republican field is loaded with people who are accustomed to being in charge of large organizations.
	Romney and Huckabee were governors.
	Juliani served as mayor.
	McCain commended the largest squadron in the Navy air wing.
	Romney also ran a huge business in the private sector and straightened out the Olympics.
	So Broder says if experience is your issue, the Democrats are lacking.
	And if you can't control the s the uh uh the the smears that your bureaucracy is putting out in case Mrs. Clinton, you know the McClinton uh the Clinton campaign is saying, Heather, that all these smears of Obama, why I staff.
	Why I have nothing to do with this.
	And that's not nearly as big a bureaucracy as the federal government is.
	She can't control that.
	If she can't run that.
	Now, that where's this been for a year?
	I'm glad Broder finally got in the game here on this, but you talk about having experience of running big organizations or turning failing financial organizations around.
	That experience is gonna be found in droves on the Republican side, nowhere to be found on the Democrat side.
	And Mitt has experience in the private sector as well as government.
	So if you want proof, look at what he did in Massachusetts.
	He went to Massachusetts with a three million dollar deficit without raising taxes, he brought them in into a surplus by the time he left office.
	On top of this, yes, he's changed turned businesses around.
	He made staples and dominoes what they are today.
	He's dealt, you know, and people talk about foreign policy and Mitt Romney.
	He dealt internationally with businesses and business leaders all over the world and was a huge success.
	He was hailed as such a success as a businessman.
	I understand.
	I I look, I don't I don't want to, and I please don't take this personally and don't be offended, but I don't want to turn the program over to uh essential what are essentially campaign commercials uh for these guys.
	I appreciate you gonna call and tell me why you like somebody, but we gotta draw the line here at some point.
	Otherwise I'm gonna find myself in a position where they're all gonna demand this.
	Uh and I don't want to go there.
	So Heather, I thank you for the call.
	I appreciate it.
	Come on, snurdly get with it.
	Where are we going next?
	We got time.
	Uh b.
	Andrew in Albuquerque, New Mexico.
	Welcome to the program.
	Hey, Rosh, how are you doing?
	Thank you for having me on, sir.
	Thank you.
	Um, sir, I've been listening to your talks about conservatism for the past few days, and you say you don't want conservatism to be redefined in the upcoming election.
	And could you just explain to skulls full of mush like me and those in Rio Linda, has conservatism ever been defined or is it constantly being redefined?
	I mean, you look at somebody like Pat Buchanan, and then you look at Newt Gingrich, both call themselves conservative, but their positions differ drastically when it comes to things like foreign policy and trade.
	Uh, who has the correct conservative position on things like that?
	Um, see, the that's interesting question.
	Buchanan, uh, back when uh when I first started this program in 1988, and even beyond, back when I was growing up in St. Louis, uh growing up in Cape Gerardo Buchanan was uh one of the editorial writers uh for the St. Louis Globe Democrat, which is now defunct.
	It was the uh it was the morning paper.
	And then he got his own syndicated column, and he was he was one uh of the people that inspired me and motivated this that he was an original thinker, and he was down the middle, he's as solid a conservative as you could find, and many of the things uh that he touts today still are.
	But when he ran for president in 1992, uh in the uh Republican primaries, he he adopted a lot of populist uh issues in order to appeal to voters, and uh one of the populist issues that he adopted was the anti-NAFTA stance and the uh the free trade business, uh his his stance now on um internationalism and defending America's uh foreign policy is is not what I would call uh conservative.
	Uh I think Newt, you're really making this stuff on me.
	Uh I I I think I think when Newt Gingrich buys in to the global warming hoax and wants to use government to fix it and come up with policies and so forth, and when he has a laundry list of policies, uh bold propositions he calls for a for a new era that all involve enlarging the government.
	It's not conservative.
	Uh and it's not the kind of thing that the contract with America was or the campaign that Newt ran in 1994 that successfully won the House of Representatives for the Republicans for the first time in forty years.
	Conservatism, uh Andrew, is you you're you have strains of it.
	Uh when I say redefine conservatism, I don't want to have somebody who is pro-choice called a conservative.
	I don't want to have somebody uh uh who is for tax increases, uh income tax increases, or opposes more importantly, tax cuts called a conservative.
	I don't want to have anybody who stands in the way of individuals prospering on their own, triumphing on their own, uh called conservative.
	It's it's really it's just it I mean, I could sit here and give you as complicated a definition of conservatism as you wanted, or as simple a definition.
	May I ask you this question, sir?
	By all means.
	Uh just as an objective observer, I've been watching our field of candidates.
	And the the guy that I see getting across his message of beating down government to size and letting the people of this country make this country great.
	The guy who's getting that message across the best is Ron Paul to me.
	I don't know if you agree or disagree with that.
	Um I I think the Paul campaign uh has embarked on uh an attempt to persuade uh because you know, if you noticed, by the way, folks, have you noticed, since we started talking about this?
	This is Thursday, since we started talking about this on Monday, all over the drive-by media.
	The debate is now being had.
	Who's a real conservative?
	Who's the real Reagan?
	I mean, the drive by's are fun.
	I'm getting interview requests.
	But there's being talked this we move the issues on this show.
	We move the news.
	And I think the Paul campaign is trying to move in here and with her little sloganeering that he is the one true conservative.
	Uh and I I I I would profoundly disagree.
	And we still have lots more to go here from high atop the EIB building in Midtown Manhattan.
	Carl Rove on how to defeat Hillary, Obama praising Ronaldus Magnus.
	We have audio sound bites on this.
	Lots of other stuff in the stacks of stuff too.

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