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Jan. 7, 2008 - Rush Limbaugh Program
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January 7, 2008, Monday, Hour #2
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Mrs. Clinton in tears this morning in New Hampshire.
It's not easy.
It's not easy.
And I couldn't do it if I just didn't, you know, passionately believe it was the right thing to do.
You know, I have so many opportunities from this country.
I just don't want to see us fall backwards.
You know.
So come on.
No.
This is very personal for me.
It's not just political.
It's not just public.
I see what's happening.
And we have to reverse it.
And some people think elections are a game.
They think it's like who's up or who's down.
It's about our country.
It's about our kids' futures.
It's really about all of us together.
You know, some of us put ourselves out there and do this against some pretty difficult odds.
And we do it, each one of us, because we care about our country.
But some of us are right and some of us are wrong.
Some of us are ready and some of us are not.
Some of us know what we will do on day one, and some of us haven't really thought that through enough.
Some of us are inevitable.
So when we look at the array of problems we have and the potential for it getting really spinning out of control.
This is one of the most important elections America's ever faced.
Uh this.
Snerdley is yelling at me.
Look what you've reduced her to.
Do I feel proud of myself?
He's asking me.
This, folks, this is so calculated, this is no different than the makeup.
This is no different than the makeup.
She gets a question from a woman at a town hall meeting as a freelance photographer asking her who does her hair every day.
And she starts up and say, it's tough.
It's tough.
Well, the political writes that she teared up.
That is a good question.
Was there a tear there?
Let's see.
The copy of the story here is exactly what the political had to say about this.
Here it is.
Exhausted in facing the prospect of losing, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.
Fought back tears.
Fought back.
Fought back.
That means there weren't any tears, right?
Let's listen to this again.
Let's that that I bet there, I bet you're right, Dawn.
A woman suspicious here of the crocodile tears.
It's not easy.
It's not easy.
And and I couldn't do it if I just didn't, you know, passionately believe it was the right thing to do.
You know, I have so many opportunities from this country.
I just don't want to see us fall backwards.
No.
So you know, this this is very personal for me.
It's not just political, it's not just public.
Of course we're going to be able to do that.
I see what's happening.
Power.
And we have to reverse it.
And some people think elections are a game.
They think it's a good thing.
All right, that's enough.
We heard enough of it.
Here's the thing.
This is the sympathy play.
This is the gender card again.
You I'll tell you exactly what this is.
This is the latest version of invading my space.
This is a reenactment with tears of the Rick Lazio moment.
Ladies and gentlemen, should a man get away with bringing Mrs. Clinton to tears.
Should a man be it me be at Obama, should a man get away with bringing Mrs. Clinton to tears, who has she said, I have so many opportunities for this country.
I have so how about we have so many opportunities together, Mrs. Clinton, rather than I have so many opp I this and I that uh emotional blackmail.
This is calculated.
Make no mistake about it, folks.
This is not spontaneous uh because nothing with the Clintons is coincidence.
Now, this is also from the Politico.
This is from uh the uh fourth of January.
Bill Clinton voiced his abiding anger at the media's coverage of him and his wife and suggested that media bias will force Clinton to go negative on Barack Obama.
Oh the media gonna make him do it.
He expressed his frustration that his wife is perceived by voters as divisive through he said, no fault of her own.
Clinton is traveling New Hampshire taking questions from voters.
The New York Times today has a story that uh the Clinton's audiences are are not uh well populated, uh his crowds are not well populated, and that uh uh they're leaving halfway through his speech.
Uh that they appear sleepy while he is speaking.
It's as though the magic is off, as though the bloom is off the um the uh the rose.
Clinton also let his audience glimpse the scars of his White House years.
Nobody would like it better than us if you could get that personal vilification out of there because nobody's been vilified more than we have, Clinton said, after noting that uh he thought Hillary and McCain could run a respectful campaign.
One of the problems with laying down and turning the other cheek is McCain had one dose of it.
They gave it to us for eight years.
And the fact of the matter is, independent voters think you're polarizing if someone else attacks you, even if that someone is Rush Limbaugh, even if you've been totally exonerated of every single charge ever leveled against you, which Hillary was, and some people forgot to tell you about that, jabbing again at the press.
He said, Nobody be happier to see all this go away than us, but you can't ask somebody who is at a breathtaking disadvantage in the information coming to the voters to ignore that disadvantage and basically agree to put bullets in their brains.
He's talking about Hillary.
What?
She just Limbaugh, she's not gonna sit around here shooting herself just for you, just because you're piping up and saying all these lies and things that aren't true about her, doesn't mean she's not gonna respond.
These people live in a in an alternative universe.
Um, here's what happened.
Let's go back to the impeachment, the Paula Jones thing and uh Monica Lewinsky.
Uh as you know, there was an independent counsel, his name is Ken Starr.
What did Clinton Inc.
do?
They spent years vilifying and destroying Ken Starr.
They went out, they purposely attempted to destroy the reputation and credibility of the independent council.
And after all of that time, when the truth finally came out, and Clinton admitted to lying under oath and his law license taken away from him for a while.
Um the public had been so inundated with what a scoundrel.
Uh Ken Starr was that Clinton's admissions fell on deaf ears.
They timed it very well.
Of course, Hillary innocent of all allegations.
Um, you know, this I I think this is what happens when you have this aura of invincibility about you, uh, and it doesn't play.
You know what's happening out there, you've got a lot of young voters that are going for Obama, showing up and voting for the first time.
Uh they are they're educated.
Uh they are new to the process, and they have no bonds with the era of fraud and deceit, which is what we call the Clinton years here.
The era of fraud.
They have no bond with it, and so there's no magic attached to having the Clintons back.
She's out there trying to make the case for change by focusing back to the 90s.
Uh and it just it just isn't playing well and now, so it's time to once again attack me.
Uh and they have a point.
We'll be back.
I have a uh jam-packed audio soundbite roster today that I want to try to get through, plus uh a number of your phone calls.
Let's do phone calls first.
We'll start where?
Uh where are we going?
Uh we're gonna start with Ellen in Cincinnati.
Nice to have you, Ellen.
Welcome to the EIB network.
Hi, Rash, thanks for taking my call.
You bet.
Uh you know, I'm we are conservative evangelical homeschoolers.
And what can m I mean my husband and I. And what concerns us is that uh Mike Huckabee is anti school choice, which we believe is the only thing that really levels the playing field for homeschoolers.
And uh and he's endorsed by the NEA, which is the very entity that that really forced many of us to choose to homeschool.
And it's it's um it's a bit concerning.
Well, you're you're right.
Uh you're right to have that concern.
How come uh as an evangelical homeschooler, you've not been swept up in Huckmania?
Is that the reason?
Um well, that's part of the reason, but um the main part is Rush, you know, we believe what the Bible says, that there is one mediator between God and man, and it is not the federal government.
And you think Huckabee wants to enlarge and empower the federal government.
I believe his past government has shown that yes, he does.
All right.
Ellen, I appreciate phone call.
Thanks, uh thank you.
You bet there's an evangelical homeschooler who is correct, by the way, the NEA in New Hampshire has endorsed uh Mike Huckabee.
Uh they do not the NEA does not endorse conservatives.
Robert, New York City, you're next on the EIB network.
Hello.
Hey, Rush, how are you?
Good, sir.
Thank you.
Like a lot of your listeners, I don't need you to tell me who to vote for.
I mean, I could do my own research.
That's that's what I think that you stressed everybody.
But the point I'm trying to make is Wait, wait, wait, I haven't told anybody who to vote for.
That's what I'm saying.
No, I'm saying it's about all these people calling up complaining that's a very good thing.
Oh from last Friday.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Yes, yeah, yeah.
But my point, my point I want to make is this.
First off, the first caller made uh a point about you know me, I'm starting to feel as as a conservative that maybe we should sit out.
I I would like uh to pull the the lever from McCain, who like to me is no conservative, and I'm a I'm a former Marine, I respect what he built my country, but as far as that goes, to me he's he's a zero when it comes to McCain, all that stuff.
To me, to uh to the whole thing.
Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait.
I'm I'm really having trouble understanding.
You say you're going to vote for McCain?
No, no, no, no.
The the point was the first caller made that he's gonna have to pull the lever for somebody on the Republican side because you know, better than the other side, which is true.
But to me, I'll have a hard time pulling the lever for McCain or Huckabee if they're the Republican nominee.
So I'm thinking about maybe it's better off for us conservatives to sit it out.
let them destroy the country like they did join the Cardi is.
And maybe, just maybe, a true Reagan conservative leader will come through and clean up the mess like he did back in the 1980s.
Yeah, but but wait, no interesting thing that you just said.
Yeah.
You sit out.
I think if the Republicans nominate certain people, a lot of conservatives will sit out, to be honest with you.
Yes, I think.
Or might even vote Democrat.
No, I'll never do that.
Well, but some will.
Um but but but look going further in your analogy.
We ended up with Reagan, but what did it take?
It it he listen, uh as a as I'm forty-six years old, so it took Jimmy Carter.
Yes, and I always you can't take Jimmy Carter out of the Reagan equations not to take anything away from Reagan.
But Jimmy Carter so botched everything in this country.
And I'm not taking anything away from Reagan.
Um it's interesting you say this because I've I found last night a couple of fascinating pieces by the same author at the American Spectator.
And he said that there are two scenarios here that Republicans can follow.
Uh and he said, What what was first I'll have to read excerpts because it's really, really good.
The first excerpt, why are you people in a funk?
Look at all the good that's happened in this country the last eight years.
And he went through the list of all the great things that have happened and the great course that we're on.
In the Second piece, he took your position.
You know what?
Uh things are really going bad.
It's the Republicans have totally, totally abandoned their conservative promises.
All this talk about doing something about the life issue, all this talk about doing something about spending, all this talk about reforming the tax code, all this talk, they haven't done diddly squat.
And so it may well be that some uh some Republicans are gonna say the hell with it.
You know, just just it's sort of like an analogy to the uh uh the black vote in the Democrat Party.
Uh the black vote keeps voting Democrat, expecting all these problems to get fixed, and they never get fixed.
And the uh conservatives in the Republican Party keep voting Republican, expecting all these things to get fixed, and it's the opposite happens.
Earmarks, uncontrolled spending, Republican presidents letting Ted Kennedy write the education bill, on and on and on and on and on.
And so the theory is in the second scenario, a lot of people might just sit out, which would give the election to Hillary or Obama.
Uh, which in then turn could do such damage to the country that by 2012 that that will bring about the new Reagan.
That the new Reagan's not possible in this scenario.
I don't know about this new Reagan business.
I I uh but but the his point is that that somebody uh far more conservative than we have on the roster now would surface in 2012 as opposed to now.
It's a fascinating piece.
It's very, very long because it's really two pieces in one.
Um and what I it was supposed to be posted today at the American Spectator, I'll make sure that it is, we'll link to it at uh at RushlinBaught.com because it is fascinating.
On one side, it chides all of us.
Well, not me, because I'm not in a funk about the country, uh, but it cites all sides chides everybody who's in a funk about the come on, wake up, we're Americans.
Look at all the good things that are happening, look at a great future we have here.
Look at how the rest of the world lives.
What do you want?
Uh and chronicle specific successes that this administration has had with judges of the Supreme Court, tax cuts, an expanding economy coming off our Clinton mini recession and then 9-11.
A lot of reasons to feel happy.
A lot of reasons to feel optimistic.
The second scenario is a down-to-earth appraisal of how Republicans who've campaigned as conservatives have not governed that way.
Uh and it'll let anybody down, and then that's why there's a funk, and people may not vote.
Pure and simple, because they're fed up with empty promises.
And the conservatives are not going to be repeating the mistakes of the black voters in this country by continuing to vote endless promises that never happen on the Democrat side.
I appreciate the call out there, Robert.
Thanks much.
Eric in Concord, North Carolina.
Welcome to the EIB network, sir.
Hello.
All right, Rush.
Uh, this is going to be hard.
This is going to be a rough call for you.
I know you like to look good, but you'll probably look bad here in a moment.
Uh oh.
This is not good.
You won't like me.
Um, I am a born-again evangelical Christian also.
And one thing that I say, you said that uh you feel that Christians are either have been either betrayed or uh been Mike Mike Huckabee has been dishonest toward them.
I want to say that I feel that you, Russia, have betrayed uh the evangelical base.
We you have been one of our greatest supporters over the years, the great the person we have looked to in many, many ways.
And I will say that because of what I call some outright lies and distortion, you call them club for growth.
I call them club you to death through growing lies.
There are some things that they have been very deceitful about.
Your previous caller, two callers before me, uh is spouting the statements from Club for Growth about saying Mike Huckabee is against school choice, which is an outright lie.
And I'll prove it in a moment.
But one thing is the homeschool legal defense, they support this guy.
Now they're not idiots, they're not fools, they know their issues and they know what they stand for.
There's a difference between school choice and school vouchers.
Club for growth, if they look through it, they they twist those two.
And most people don't know there's a difference between the two.
The main thing is Mike Huckabee is totally for school choice.
He's totally for school for charter school, and he is one of the biggest, most ardent defenders of evolution that you'll ever not evolution, but creationism that you'll ever find here, Rush.
Now, I can go through a whole list of places where you have really distorted the truth.
Now, you've got a lot of people call in call calling themselves Christians, which is fine, who have support have supported Hulkby, but you've only given them the platform to spout their defense for his positions on against homosexuality and and and and his pro-life stance.
But there are a lot of things that you're leaving out because the Club for Growing Lies, as I'll even call them, are distorting the real truth about this guy.
Because there's been a vicious war for years between secular conservatives and the religious right conservatives.
They hate religious right conservatives.
And you know good and well that's true.
Now, let me go through a litany if you would allow me to do what you have not.
Hang on here just a second because I got a commercial break coming up in a mere matter of uh of broadcast seconds.
I'll hold you over through the break since you feel so wrong.
Do I just want to tell you I've not read one word about what the Club for Growth has uh has said about Mike Huckabee, so I am not quoting them.
Um put that in your hat.
We'll be back and we'll continue this litany after the break.
By the way, I had a uh moment of verbal dyslexia.
It's the American thinker.com, where these two fascinating pieces on Republican voting scenarios uh appear.
I mistakenly said the American spectator.com.
Back to Concord, North Carolina.
Eric, you started out with great promise, man.
You're a little bit off the rails now.
Let's get it back on track.
All right.
First of all, how am I off the rails?
Well, I mean, you're you're you're you're railing away here in a in in sort of a maniacal fashion about this.
Let's let's let's you you want to talk about me or do you want to talk about Huckabee?
Well, let's both really.
Number one, I want to just talk uh uh straighten out some some outright distortions.
Either Royce, I've said concluded, I said, either Rush, you've been duped or you're being deceitful.
I hate it's the latter.
I know it's not the latter.
I'm just gonna say because of the the uh the wait, wait, Eric.
Now one thing here.
I I'm I haven't been duped.
Uh and I'm not trying to be deceitful.
No.
And I also know that I can't talk you out of what you believe, and I'm not even going to try.
I'm just I'm just telling people what I think and what I observed.
You can you can throw it out the window, you can get all upset all you want, but yeah.
There's no you know many people.
Many people have are now eating dirt who tried to fool me.
Okay.
Well Just don't fool yourself.
Okay, well, I mean, I'm going, I'm trying to stay level-headed too.
We do we can both uh agree to disagree on some things, but one thing that I want to say is there's some nuances that are being left out in this, and because of the Club for Growth, uh and the way they are, uh they're they're they've distorted the truth about a lot of things regarding Huckabee.
There's some things they said that are true.
I'm not disputing that.
I've literally, because of you, because of your uh what's going on, especially since December, I've literally spent many, many hours.
I don't I'm ashamed to tell you how many hours I've done, just going through fine like a fine-tooth comb, trying to find out well, what's going on here with this situation.
There's, for example, let's look at just before I get to this other stuff we just talked about.
No, get to one thing.
Okay, get to one.
Okay, let's deal with that.
Let's get to this one thing right now.
Neil Bort Neil Borts is no fool.
Neil Bortz, he he knows what he believes.
He's passionate about taxes.
All right.
Now, Neil Boris, why in the world would Neil Bortz, a libertarian, support Mike Huckabee?
One of the main reasons, Rush, uh, is because of Mike Huckabee's stand on taxes.
What the Club for Growth has done and what Mitt Romney does is they try to use his positions that he some of the tax increases that he took in Arkansas as to use against him.
We don't talk about Mitt Romnish, numerous tax increases in fees.
But but the point is the reason why, out of when you look at the fair tax, there are only four guys on that platform and the Republicans who support it.
Honker, I mean Hunter, Huckabee, Keyes, and Ron Paul.
When you look at the Americans for tax reform, only Thompson and McCain refused to sign the pledge.
Now that should tell you something here.
Now, why is it that this fair tax is so crucial to things?
This is why Christians, conservatives love this.
If we can get rid of this tax code that is so burdensome and onerous, which is what Huckabee is totally about, you're not saying one thing about that.
You want to say he's a populist, but you don't want to defend him for the stance that he is.
Okay, that's fine.
He is.
I mean it's not a crime.
Boy, you call these people populists and they get all defensive about it.
It's not a crime.
As as okay, so the fair tax, that's that's the one thing.
I know about the fair tax, John Linder and Neil, who is a good friend of mine, by the way, Neil Bortz wrote the book on the fair tax, and I know that that uh that Huckabee is in favor of the fair tax.
I know the fair tax doesn't have a prayer, but the but but but Huckabee when answering questions about this is well, it may not have a prayer, but it's never gonna have a chance unless we have a president who can lead the American people and get it for him because the American people get what they want.
That's essentially what he's saying.
Uh and I admire that, by the way.
I I admire people who are willing to talk to the American people over the heads of the media, over the heads of everybody else, try to inspire them and so forth, and and get them to be educated informed.
Reagan had the ability to do this.
Uh look at you uh uh I I I learned in 1992, Eric.
Uh this this this this election is a is almost a verbatim replay uh of of uh six months of nineteen ninety-two when Perot got involved.
I refused to get on board, perult people calling me, hassling me, saying, Hey, Perot's your guy.
You ought to be leading the pro movement.
Però is exactly what we're talking about.
I stood fast that no instincts tell me something else.
Turned out I was right.
People began to call apologize, wanted forgiveness and all of that, which of course I gracefully granted, as I will later on this year, uh when similar things happen.
I'm not gonna try to talk you out of it.
That's that's not the point.
But at the same time, um I spent a very focused weekend here because I was in a funk.
I was in a funk since Friday's show.
Friday's show was in my mind the worst show that I can remember having presided over in ten years.
And I was embarrassed about it.
I was just, I was just, I went home and I was I was literally in a funk all weekend.
And so I what I did, I spent I spent the whole week, I did not leave the house again.
After seven days of not leaving the house over the Christmas break, I didn't leave the house over, I didn't talk to a soul.
I had a couple instant messages with people I watched the football games, but I got very introspective uh about all this and where it's headed.
Uh and I did a lot of serious thinking about it, and I watched all his political TV, which I haven't been doing a lot of.
And it helped focus me on what is uh necessary here, uh and it helped me to focus on what what uh what I view the purpose of this program is and the purpose of this program is that there are many and varied purposes, but my success is not determined by who wins elections.
So I I I don't it's not it's not about that.
It's and I think Mrs. Clinton's even copying me when she gets these crocodile tears today and talks about it's the country she cares about and the future of the country while using the personal proton I all over the place.
I have so many opportunities for America.
She doesn't present one opportunity to anybody except herself.
I care deeply about the future of the country too.
Uh and if there are things out there that I see that I think pose a problem that are destructive to the coalition on the conservative side that has the best chance of seeing this country and its people realize it and their full potential, then I'm gonna f and I'm I'm gonna I'm gonna discuss it.
Uh but I'm not gonna try to talk you out of anything because I know I can't.
Not possible.
Uh you have you have uh attachments to the uh to the Huckabee campaign, Eric, uh that are immune from anything I might try, which I'm I'm not trying to separate anybody from anybody here.
But at the same time, I'm gonna tell you what I see and what I think and what I know to be true, and if it hurts, and if you think I'm ganging up on your guy, tough toenails.
That's not what I'm doing here.
But I don't think McCain is conservative, and I th I th I don't want to relive the first hour.
First hour is a brilliant hour.
It's a great hour.
It lives on its own.
It'll be up at Rushlimbaugh.com later on this afternoon.
If you missed it, you can read the transcript or listen to it on uh streaming audio or what have you.
I want to move on to Chad in Savannah, Georgia.
Chad, nice to have you on the EIB network.
Hello.
Mega Ditto's Rush.
Thank you, sir.
Um I call this is this is a very hard thing for me to do.
I've I've been a huge fan of yours since 1991 when I was a young skullful of mush at Liberty University.
Um but I've been very disappointed with You and with frankly a lot of other heroes of mine uh and the way they've taken down Huckabee here, I feel like in the last month.
And let me tell you why I think the evangelicals are gonna continue to support this guy despite the fact that uh a lot of the the people we look to for leadership are not.
Uh number one, I don't think we can support Romney or Giuliani because of their pro-life or their pro-choice positions in the past, which now Romney switched to pro-life.
Giuliani has not.
Uh the second amendment is a big deal to a lot of us, especially down here in Georgia and throughout the area, and Giuliani and Romney have been miserable on the second amendment.
And thirdly, with Giuliani, frankly, a lot of us see the issues that we destroyed Bill Clinton for, or we we hope to destroy him for, uh, with Giuliani, and that is you know, infidelity while he's in office.
Uh, think of think of Bill Clinton and the Arkansas State Troopers and how we went after him over, you know, the things that went on there.
And evangelicals are not gonna gel around these people.
We've we've been looking for someone who we feel is a true conservative.
Now wait a second.
Now what wait a second?
I uh I have I have no brief for Rudy Giuliani here, but you can't compare Rudy Giuliani and Bill Clinton to the Arkansas State Troopers.
Giuliani's expenses incurred by the NYPD, driving around out to the Hamptons so forth has been totally explained, fully and exonerated.
There was no crime, there was no inappropriate behavior, there was nothing even off the center of the track on this.
Uh I know where you're coming from here, and you you you think that I am um blowing the conservative uh Reagan coalition, and I'm trying to save it.
Well, Rush, but I do you do you really think that evangelicals are going to go for either Romney or Giuliani with a lot of the issues that they've stood up, not only held, but have yeah, Rudy, for instance.
You really don't want me to answer this.
You really don't want me to answer this.
You really do not want me to answer this.
Do not ask that question again because I might answer it, and you don't want my answer.
Well, Rush, there are millions of people who are looking for a real conservative.
And I'm sorry, but it's not Romney and it is not Giuliani.
Uh okay.
Let me ask you a question.
Okay.
Eight weeks ago, two months ago, what did you know about Mike Huckabee?
I've known about Mike Huckabee for a while.
I followed him for a while.
I knew he was a uh had served ten and a half years as governor of Arkansas.
I knew he had been a Baptist preacher before that.
Well, you're an exception.
Eight weeks ago, nobody knew what Huckabee had done for ten years in Arkansas.
Now we know a little bit more.
And when we get into it, uh, you know, if I don't embrace all the candidates' non-conservative positions, there's something wrong with me.
And everybody else who doesn't agree.
So Huckabee supports the fair tax.
Uh why didn't he support the net tax cuts when he was when he was govern uh governor?
Is is it a fair question?
Are we not allowed to ask this?
I mean, there's there's there have been all kinds of uh uh uh things that we learned about Huckabee here in that we didn't know eight weeks ago, and so we're now starting to learn some of these things, and if I don't embrace all of them, I'm the bad guy.
Rush, I think it's fine to look back at his record, but then we don't you don't want to look back at Rudy and Mitt's records in the past.
You want to say, well, everything's good now with them.
You've got to it's gotta play both ways.
Have you heard me proclaim either of these people to be a conservative?
Uh you have said in the past that you like vet you like Thompson, Mitt and Rudy.
You you've listed them up in the people that are around.
Uh have you heard me say that there is no Reagan conservative in this race?
Yes.
All right.
Fine.
I'm not calling any of them perfect.
Well, I just feel like you're really you you I feel like you're piling on Huckabee along with a lot of other people, and I feel like he's got a lot more conservative points to him than some of these other people.
Okay.
I under I I uh uh uh right, ladies and gentlemen, I'm gonna take the gloves off here for just a second.
Welcome back, by the way, to the Rush Limbaugh program and the EIB network.
Uh We're getting a lot of people calling here, claiming to speak for all evangelicals.
Even Huckabee himself said on Fox yesterday that he did not get all of the evangelical vote in Iowa.
It is not true to say that the evangelical vote in this country is monolithic and in total support of Mike Huckabee.
If you want to call and speak for yourself, feel free to do so.
Most of the pro-life groups out there, by the way, not the not groups of religious people, but most of the pro-life groups happen to be supporting Fred Thompson.
In another thing, we had a guy, Eric from North Carolina, who called and said that uh uh the homeschool defense league endorsed Huckabee.
That's not true.
One of their top dogs did, a guy named Michael Ferris, but the association did not.
You can go through their website and you will find a lot of critical articles on Huckabee R. E. home schooling.
Uh they had a press release saying that Ferris's endorsement is not an endorsement from them.
Now you guys you you can you can call here, this is a guy that accused me of deceiving people.
You can call here, you can say what you want, but be very careful.
Because I am an encyclopedia.
And if you're gonna start making claims here, we're gonna find out about it.
You know, I mean, uh my question for for you, evangelicals is this.
If you're looking for a real conservative, why are you supporting Huckabee?
He's he's he's completely discredited himself.
What about Fred Thompson?
If you're looking for real conservative, Huckabee is constantly engaging in class warfare against their producers.
This line about about um I'd rather uh people's laid offline.
It's it's an attack on Romney, but I mean it's it's it's it's uh it's an attack on producers, it's an attack on employers, it's pure populism.
He does oppose school choice.
You don't get the NEA endorsement in New Hampshire by supporting school choice.
Uh I think I know what is happening here, Mr. Snerdley, who is the official screener of calls here today.
I think that the Huckabee campaign is finally figured it out.
Uh I think that we've got behind the scenes advisors in some cases calling in here.
Uh and either advisors are having their people, not the advisors, I think advisors having some of their people uh call in here.
You know, I I'm not I'm not I'm not getting inundated here from the Ron Paul crowd.
I'm not getting inundated from the McCain crowd or by the McCain crowd.
And if you hucksters think that I have been a little bit unfair and a little bit hard on Governor Huckabee, uh equally as hard on Senator McCain, but we're not hearing from any of his people.
Uh so I I really I really think here that uh what what's what's happening is sort of an organized campaign uh from the from the Huckabee people here to um uh you know try to get on the program and refute what I'm saying.
I mean I've I've talked about Rudy and social issues as well as Romney and some of his flip-flops in these things.
Uh I happen to think if you if you want to close the loop here, I opened the program talking about last night's forum in particular.
And if you want to know, in my opinion, who shined, it was it was uh Thompson and Romney.
To me, there was no contest.
The problem with Thompson is, and a little bit with me is I'm a depth guy.
I like depth.
Television doesn't reward depth.
Television rewards zingers, one-liners, cutesy isms.
You know, Fred Thompson produced a brilliant 17-minute video that was on YouTube that explains everything about every issue that he cares about.
It's clear he's thought deeply about a whole lot, got out of social security reform last night that was awesome and totally called for, but it something he couldn't say in 30 seconds.
Uh, Romney looked like last night.
He actually wants to win this thing, making a big move in New Hampshire.
Anyway, I gotta go.
I got a quick break here.
Time flying by.
Oh, this is too good.
A newspaper columnist in New Jersey has compared Bill Clinton to me.
When I said the media giving McNabb a pass, he says Bill Clinton's accusing the media of giving Obama a pass because he's black.
We'll be back.
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