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July 26, 2007 - Rush Limbaugh Program
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July 26, 2007, Thursday, Hour #2
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Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Hang on here a minute.
There's a more late-arriving show prep.
By the way, folks, I may have to uh revise my my final comment of previous hour where I says, I understand that the local prosecutors, uh, guys like Naiphong are different than the feds.
I mean, the feds are generally better at this.
But I was reminded of the scooter libby situation.
So anyway, greetings and welcome back.
It's the Rush Limbaugh program, the EIB network having more fun than a human being should be allowed to have.
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If you want to join us, the uh email address is rush at EIB net.com.
One more little dog story because Chihuahuas took a rap in the earlier hour and uh got a heartwarming story here about a Hua uh Chihuahua, the ankle biter.
Uh uh Zoe is a Chihuahua, but this is from Masonville, Colorado.
When a rattlesnake lunged at her owner's one-year-old grandson, Zoe the Chihuahua was a real bulldog.
Booker West was splashing his hands in a birdbath in his grandparents' northern Colorado backyard when the snake slithered up to the toddler, rattled and struck.
Five-pound Zoe, the ankle biting Chihuahua, jumped in the way and took the bites.
She uh she got in between Booker and the snake, and that's when I heard her yipe.
The dog required treatment, and for a time it appeared she might not survive.
Now she prances about.
Heartwarming score.
By the way, you've seen the story about that cat.
Beautiful cat that's people at a nursing home have figured out this cat knows when residents at the nursing home are going to pass away.
It gets up on their beds and cuddles up.
And they have figured out the cat knows.
Uh this is definitely a cat you do not want around you.
All right.
The witch hunt is on for Alberto Gonzalez.
Democrats have demanded a special counsel.
An independent prosecutor to look into whether or not Alberto Gonzalez committed perjury in his testimony before Senate Committee on the firings of eight U.S. attorneys.
Uh here is uh some soundbites first from Senator Chuck Schumer this morning during a press conference.
Earlier this week, Attorney General Gonzalez testified before the Judiciary Committee, and his inability to answer simple and straightforward questions was just stunning.
The attorney general took an oath to tell the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth.
Instead, he tells the half-truth, the partial truth, and everything but the truth.
And he does it not once and not twice, but over and over and over again.
His instinct is not to tell the truth, but to dissemble and deceive.
As I said yesterday, it's uh it's a Democrats in Congress that are out of control.
They say Bush is violating all these personal rights and so forth.
It's the Congress that's out of control.
Just this is this is just over the top from securing defeat in Iraq to hassling the administration with all these um investigations, the shortage of subpoena forms.
Here's more from Schumer.
We had all hope that it wouldn't come to this.
Oh, yeah, right.
We simply cannot let this abuse of power continue unchecked.
Oh, the only thing missing there is the tear rolling down the cheek.
Oh, we all hoped it wouldn't come to this.
We simply cannot let this abuse of power continue unchecked.
George W. Bush can fire anybody he wants.
There is no crime.
Once again, the Democrats are trying to set up a scooter libby process crime here by bringing Gonzalez up and asking him all these questions over and over again.
Here is uh John Conyers.
This is yesterday during a judiciary committee hearing on the U.S. attorney firings.
Uh, Conyers had this to say about the chief of staff of the White House, Josh Bolton and former White House counsel Harriet Myers ignoring his committee's subpoena.
Where our subpoenas can be readily ignored, where a witness under a duly authorized subpoena doesn't even have to bother to show up.
Where privilege Can be asserted on the thinnest basis and in the broadest possible manner.
Then we've already lost.
Lost what?
You've lost your attempt here to embarrass these people?
What have we lost here?
Harriet Myers doesn't have to say a word to anybody.
She's the president's lawyer.
Lawyer client privilege anybody.
As I say, we've we linked to the best piece on this executive privilege claim that the White House has made for these two people by John Yu.
It was it was in the Wall Street Journal a couple days ago, some someday earlier this week.
And it it is, as far as what I've read, it's a definitive piece on uh who's in the right here.
So yesterday during the White House press briefing, uh Tony Snow took a question about the contempt of Congress charges against Myers and Josh Bolton.
Here's a portion of what he said.
In our view, this is pathetic.
What you have right now is partisanship on Capitol Hill that quite often boils down to insults, insinuations, inquisitions, and investigations.
Wow.
Rather than pursuing the normal business of trying to pass major pieces of legislation such as appropriations bills, and to try to work in such a way as to demonstrate that the American people that Congress and the White House can work together.
But apparently it didn't work, and it's not working.
Here's more from Tony Snow.
As I said, we maintain our position of accommodation toward the House of Representatives.
But made no mistake, based on legal precedent, this is something that the drafters of this particular referral know has very little chance of going anywhere.
And so the question is, why are they doing this rather than the people's business?
Precisely.
It has no chance of going anywhere.
They're going to lose this.
This can be dragged out for 18 months anyway in the legal fight with paperwork and motions and all this sort of stuff.
They know it's not going to go anywhere, so why are they doing it rather than uh uh the people's business?
Frankly, I'm I'm I'm sort of glad they're doing this.
I hate that Bush and his buddies are taking a hit on this, but that the more they do this kind of stuff, the less damage they can do with their kind of legislation.
One of the reasons they're not doing any legislation, they can't get anything passed.
Minimum wage bill, and they threw a party for it yesterday.
Yep, yep, yep, yep, yahoo.
But they can't get anything done.
They can't get their war resolutions passed, they can't defund the war.
Can't do Diddley Squat, folks.
Couldn't do anything on immigration.
Democrats are stuck in a 1968 mentality.
And there's something else that Tony Snow said.
This was in his uh opening statement.
More than 300 executive branch investigations or inquiries, four hundred requests for documents, interviews, or testimony.
We've had more than five hundred and fifty officials testify.
We've had more than six hundred oversight hearings.
Eighty-seven thousand plus hours spent responding to oversight requests from Congress, and four hundred and thirty thousand pages made available to Congress for oversight.
That's pretty significant.
In fact, the eighty-seven thousand hours that we mentioned that have been used in document production, that's equal to more than nine and a half years.
And here's your graphic of the day, ladies and gentlemen.
If you took those four hundred and thirty thousand pages, stack them on top of each other, they would reach a height twice that of the executive mansion itself.
He was trying to illustrate how cooperative they've been, how much time they've had to spend responding the eighty-seven thousand eighty-seven thousand hours, uh man hours to all of these requests and demands that uh that Congress has made.
And despite all that, nothing has come from these hearings except a waste of time and a lack of legislation, which is, as I say, is a good thing.
This is nothing more than pure harassment.
It's the attempt on the part of Democrats in the House and the Senate to continue this program of theirs, their plan, to make a Bush administration and thus all Republicans appear to be totally corrupt.
It's right out of the old playbook.
They're trying to make this this is Watergate all over.
Uh they're they're uh attempting to uh uh go back and and end the war as though it were Vietnam and get rid of this administration as though it is Nixon.
Now, speaking of Nixon, if you want to if you want to see something Nixonian going on, take a look at the governor of New York, Elliot Spitzer, who's uh whose special, I don't forget his staff members, organized a hit on uh a Republican Senate Leader Joseph Bruno, totally manufacturing evidence, totally making it up.
Spitzer said he didn't know about it, but it's Nixonian.
And it's a Democrat doing it.
The governor of New York and even his own attorney general, Andrew Kumo, the uh a Democrat, issued a blistering report saying that this is unconscionable what has come out of the governor's office on this.
And so, once again, it's projection.
A Democrats accusing Republicans and Bush of doing what they actually do.
Something else in this.
Henry Waxman, who uh heads oversight in the House.
Uh he has been plotting this revenge ever since the Clinton administration and all of the investigations by Dan Burton.
Dan Burton used to run the committee from Indiana, used to run the committee that uh Henry Waxman now heads up.
And Burton was demanding evidence and emails from the White House on illegal foreign campaign contributions, i.e., from ChICOMs.
Uh and Henry Waxman had been plotting ever since he uh this happened when he got his committee chairmanship back when the House was uh procured once again to the Democrats, he's been plotting this kind of strategery and behavior, and he's in the middle of executing it now.
So this is liberal payback.
You don't do this to us.
You don't challenge our power.
You don't challenge our authority.
You if you do, we'll pay you back the next minute we get.
And that's precisely what's happening with uh not a whole lot of progress.
One more oh, let's say a couple more sound bites.
Let's let's go to the uh Senate Judiciary Committee hearings uh on Tuesday, and uh Schumer was questioning Gonzalez, the attorney general.
Here's a portion of their exchange.
Disagreement on the 10th was about other intelligence activities.
Not about the TSP.
Yes or no?
The disagreement and the reason we had to go to the hospital had to do with other intelligence activities.
Was it about the TSP?
Yes or no, please.
That's vital to whether you're telling the truth to this committee.
It was about other intelligence activities.
And uh this is when Ashcroft was in the hospital and they went up there and they were trying to get authorization for him to sign something.
Uh Schumer then uh uh, you know, had a had a retort.
Um John Roberts this morning on CNN said uh so did Gonzalez lie to you.
Well, it's looking like that.
It sure is.
And unfortunately, this isn't the only time that this has happened.
In his testimony, there are so many instances where he doesn't tell the truth to the committee and then says, well, I'll he sends in a correction later or tries to parse it in a different way.
But he is just not being straight with this committee in terms of telling the truth.
And we are frustrated as could be.
I uh John, I have been in Washington twenty-seven years, and I have never seen anything like this.
Spare me.
Been in Washington 27 years and you've never seen anything like this.
This is nothing.
And we'll be right back.
Sit tight.
Hang on, folks.
Late arriving show prep here.
Senator Pet Leakey Leahy has issued a subpoena for Carl Rove now, issued in uh subpoena today for him to uh testify about the firing of several U.S. attorneys.
Leahy said the evidence shows that senior White House political operatives are focused on the political impact of federal prosecutions, and whether federal prosecutors are doing enough to bring partisan voter fraud and corruption cases.
Uh there is no crime here, ladies and gentlemen.
The president, these U.S. attorneys serve at his pleasure.
There's I I know there's I that that's exactly right.
There is no way a court is gonna rule against executive well, depending on the judge.
But uh there uh uh depends on how much payback.
If it's a liberal judge, depends on how much payback the liberal judge wants to exact for what happened.
You know these people put their personal policy preferences over the law a lot of times.
I mean, I I uh but all things being normal, uh, in a normal political environment, if there's such a thing, there's no judge that would find for Congress in this executive privilege fight.
No way whatsoever.
But you know, the the I want to try to put this in a little bit of a different perspective.
Even as the Democrats are playing politics By accusing Bush of playing politics.
That's who's who's really playing politics.
It's a Democrats, it's a total political game, and you're accusing Bush of doing it.
You know, we sit here, we watch the uh the low-class lynching of the attorney general uh and and you ask a question is this an attack or a defense?
Is is this a uh a diss or is it a tribute?
For example, if I were to tell you Alberto Gonzalez is no Janet Reno, does that insult him or praise him?
Well, in my mind, it praises him.
Does that give his persecutors a reality check?
I don't think so.
But I mean, you want to you want to draw a comparison between Gonzalez and Janet Reno?
You talks talk about somebody who was just there as a figurehead.
Underlings were actually doing the work.
She was just there, you know, she was she was appointed for all the obvious reasons.
How about this?
Uh one of the underlings working for Janet Reno was Webb Hubble.
We could say Alberto Gonzalez is no Webb Hubble.
Uh is uh that an insult to Gonzalez, or is it praise?
I think it's I think it's praise.
You could say Alberto Gonzalez is no Ramsey Clark, former attorney general at Kennedy years.
Or maybe Johnson years, I don't know.
But the fact is uh is that an insult or a praise of Alberto Gonzalez?
And uh, how about this?
Alberto Gonzalez is no Bobby Kennedy.
Rush.
How dare you?
What do you mean?
Well, Alberto Gonzalez never ordered wiretaps of Martin Luther King, or of the Reverend Dax, or Al Sharpton.
So here's here's how it all works, folks.
Alberto Gonzalez, Republican, is bad.
Janet Reno, Democrat, Webb Hubble Democrat, Ramsey Clark, Democrat, Bobby Kennedy, Democrat, all great.
They brought honor and prestige to the office.
And that is uh how it works.
Wayne and Prescott, Michigan.
I'm glad you waited, sir.
Welcome to the EIB network.
Well, uh Megadetto's Rush, and I'm uh soon to be a 19-year listener of you.
Yeah, that'll be uh August 1st, 19th anniversary coming up.
Yes, sir.
Anyway, you you were speaking yesterday about the FDA taking over uh control of the tobacco uh industry, uh, as far as the dosages go.
I I'm just wondering, there's no uh deaths secondhand uh uh uh pointed out to secondhand smoke causing any death.
But alcohol, they'll allow alcohol to be served in the public.
A guy can go and get blitzed and he can go out and kill somebody.
I I just don't understand why they're picking on tobacco so much.
Well, as I puff on my soon-to-be $10 taxed cigar.
Uh big b big there there is no uh uh political aim here in attacking big booze.
You know, they're just big booze is somehow remained immune.
Well, is it because uh smokers are a minority?
Uh and uh alcohol users are probably not a minority.
No, I think it's because a lot of liberals drink.
Uh a lot of liberals consume adult beverages, but they don't smoke.
And so they're not gonna go after something that they use.
They're not gonna go after something that they do.
That's uh that's it exactly, and that's my point, is that they they want to go after firearms, alcohol, tobacco, firearms, and uh they'll go after tobacco and firearms, but not uh something that kills a lot of innocent people.
Well, there's another thing, too.
You gotta read the Kennedy family.
I don't know if this is uh still accurate, but the Kennedy Trust at one time, uh you know, old Joe was got at least start as a bootlegger.
Sure.
And uh uh they at one time received the import duty on every bottle of Scotch that came into the United States of America.
Now I don't know if they still do.
This was this is some years ago, uh, but but uh, you know, the the the when the Kennedy family has uh interests in the sale and the import and sale of uh adult beverages.
I don't think anybody's gonna target it.
Not the way that I mean there are regulations, can't be advertised as extensively at uh well it distilled spirits can't.
Um, but they probably have a much better lobbying operation than uh than big tobacco does.
Um and of course the uh uh the alcohol can kill quicker uh than tobacco can.
There's all kinds of hypocritical inconsistencies with this, which is what you uh soon to be 19 year listener are cleverly and astutely pointing out.
Yes, sir.
Yes, sir.
And uh I uh I I I just can't understand it, but uh you think when you when you when you find these things that you can't understand, the rule of thumb works almost every time it's tried, is go to go to liberalism and liberals and examine what they do and what they don't do and how they think and don't think and feel and so you'll you'll get close to these answers.
Absolutely correct.
That is exactly what happens on this program real life.
Half my brain tied behind my back.
Just to make it fair to Long Meadow, Massachusetts, this is Bernice.
Bernice, nice to have you on the program.
Hi, Rush.
I've been listening to you for many, many, many years, and I've heard a lot of sound bites on your show today, and was wondering why you don't play any sound bites of Bruce Fine, who's been on uh on the talk shows lately, and he was the assistant attorney general for uh Ronald Reagan when he was president.
Uh as you uh as you know, as I'm sure you know.
Wait, wait, wait just a second here, Bernice Ruth is a he?
No, Bruce.
Bruce.
Bruce Fine.
Fine, yes.
Bruce Fine.
Why I uh he's uh I haven't heard what he has said about this.
He's calling for the impeachment.
I know what he's saying.
I just think.
Well, I thought you said you hadn't heard what he said.
Because it isn't gonna happen.
Well, whether it's not gonna happen or not, he makes a lot of sense for the reasons why he's calling for the Joe.
All right, all right, Bernice.
Joe, get me some Bruce Fine comments.
Give me some Bruce Fine audio.
And get Bruce some to eat.
He's too thin.
Oh, that's ridiculous.
You're still carrying the water for for George Bush, aren't you?
Uh yeah.
I've I'm sure they're thinking about exhausted by now.
Did you happen to know a woman uh uh in named Carolyn who lived off the moss Turnpike?
No.
She used to call here.
She sadly passed away.
Well, I know Carolyn, but she's uh very much alive.
Uh well, this is not the same Carolyn then.
No, I guess not.
Okay, so uh uh you want you want to hear some Bruce Fine audio sound bites on why the president is.
I would love to.
You know, I'm legally blind, so I can't read and wait, but you've already heard them.
Why why do you want to hear them on this point?
No, I think I think your audience should hear a different point of view.
Because I don't I the stuff your your audience killing to them is is garbage.
It's trash.
Your dealing to them is garbage.
Uh the truth comes out.
I if you sit here long enough with a liberal, regardless where they're from.
Oh, I'm not denying I'm a liberal, but I like to listen to both both sides of the story in case somebody has to be able to do that.
Let me tell you something.
Let me tell you something, Bernice.
You get both sides on this program.
I I am I am more honest about what's the funniest thing I've ever heard in my life.
I bet it is.
Bernice, I am more honest about what liberals think and say than they are.
I have t I present their side on this program in order to present my side so I can nuke theirs.
No, you you I just play it I most of the soundbite.
You you get the you get some people other progressive talk shows who make more a lot of things and have a lot a lot of Bernice.
You were talking to the most listened to radio talk show host in America, and you were trying to get me to do things that would literally destroy my program.
Nobody listens to these progressive talk show people because they sound like you all mad and upset and angry and doom and gloom and fed up and and you don't want to hear the truth about things.
You only want to hear your side of things.
I I have a wonderful life.
I am past eighty years old, and I still uh care what's going on in this world for my children, my grandchildren, and my great grandchildren.
I'm happy about that.
Most senior citizens are concerned about themselves.
So that's that's that's a great thing that you've done there.
Well, and that and that's why when I listen to people like you who who only trust you.
Well, why do you listen?
Why if you get so exasperated and why why do you why do you listen?
I've been listening forever.
I listen to all talk shows.
I think that all different points of you.
This is the one you know why I listen.
This is the one that upsets you.
Why do you listen to it?
No, I have low blood pressure, and I listened to you to raise it so that it's n it it gets to be normal.
Is that okay?
Russ, I want to tell you one thing.
I am the age that your mother would have been if she was alive.
And if you were my son and if George Bush was my son, I'd be ashamed of both of you.
Oh now, Bernice.
Yes, I have a son exactly your idea.
You should be you sh if I were your son, you would be so proud of me.
I've accomplished things that nobody in this business ever has, and you would be so proud if I were really your son.
Well, I'm I don't believe I don't believe you mean that.
You're too nice.
You're too nice a lady to actually mean it.
You're dumb you're trying you're you're you're not pulling this off well.
You're really nice, and I you're trying to make yourself sound um other than that on your nose.
No, I I I'm not I'm probably the nicest person you ever met in your life.
The kindest, the most generous, and uh and I am willing to to do anything within reason for anybody for any good reason.
You're your your son notwithstanding, Bernice.
You haven't met me, but you will never meet a kinder and more generous human being than I. I don't know that you will ever have that honor or an experience.
But I'd like to meet you someday.
You never know.
Next time up up there playing golf, I'll let you know that I'm coming and uh on the air, and if you want to come to the golf course where I happen to be playing and track me down, you've got to come unarmed.
Uh but but feel free to um feel free to show up.
Uh no, she's mean spirited, but she's a seasoned citizen.
And uh look at how closely she follows this show.
She knows the age my mother would be.
She knows that I'm fifty-six.
This is a closet fan.
She has a closet adoration for me.
She's got a mother-son complex taking it out on me.
In fact, Bernice, I know you're still out there, and I gotta tell you what my mother was not above criticizing me.
I remember one time I made a comment about Amy Carter.
Uh and and uh her appearance.
And my mother called after that, said you can't talk about people that way.
You just you you you you can't if you you're not gonna go anywhere if you if you make fun of the way people look, besides she said you forgot Margaret Truman.
Uh Todd in Southern California, welcome to the EIB network.
Thank you for taking my call, sir.
Yes.
Um I have a quick quote.
Before I get my question, I have a quick uh question for you.
Um I've listened to you for quite a while.
Very very uh entertaining show.
And I keep hearing people calling us the megadettos.
What is that referred to?
I hope that's not a stupid question.
Well, if it I'd be glad to answer it, but if you've been listening a long time, you certainly have heard me explain this.
Have you just forgotten it?
No, I believe it or not, all the people I've listened to have never heard that one explain.
Right.
Here's the here's the explanation.
Uh uh back when this show started, August first, nineteen eighty-eight, it took the nation by storm because there was nothing like it, the national media.
The national media was all liberal.
Here was this conservative program that uh reflected the views of millions of people.
And as people would call in the first couple minutes of their call, uh uh literally they'd spend thanking me and talking about how great it was to have something like this on the radio fine.
It was so great, and I of course loved hearing it.
After a while, after about six months, I I it it finally just it it grew old.
It was it was delaying getting to the discussion of the issues.
A woman called from I think it was New Hampshire, and uh after just one of those calls said ditto to what that guy just said.
So ditto means I love the program, don't ever go away.
It doesn't mean I agree with you.
It doesn't mean that you're always right.
I mean I love the program.
And a megadiddles means I really love I mean I adore this program.
I mean, it's the only program.
That's what megaditos means.
Well then let me be the first one to say megadiddos after hearing that for today.
All right, thank you.
Um I I don't want to re harp on the issue, but I think uh as talented as you are, as experienced you are and as enlightened as you are, I think you've you're missing this one here with the with the dogs.
Uh you know, we've been devaluing human life since the beginning of time.
Hitler, Genghis Khan, you can go back and back.
So I think you've you've missed the point.
Abortion didn't just, you know, it devalue it from there.
It's been been devalued at the beginning of the room.
What don't don't compare average Americans, Adolf Hitler.
Don't compare average Americans to Gengis Khan or Genges Khan is Carrie Pronounced.
Don't we're t what I'm talking about here is average Americans.
You look at this is not the only incident that makes me think that there has been a devaluation of human life.
I know there has been.
It's not arguable.
Uh uh the the you know the th this is this is to me something has been going on for decades now, and I there are there are precise reasons for it, and you can see evidence all over the uh uh the place for it, other than the uh outrage over the dog deaths uh at the Vic dog fight compound.
Well, again, you know, we've been numb for thousands of years to human suffering.
Animals, only in the past hundred years have we started to really uh abuse them and misuse them and do the things that we did.
Well, be think about it, Rush, before the bow and arrow.
I have thought about it.
Uh Todd, I have thought about it, and the point is you're you're talking about the modern day animal rights movement, which by the way, kinda quite a contrast.
The animal rights movement and the pro aborts.
I don't want to go back to there, though.
Uh y this is what I mean by people's historical perspective begins with the day of their birth.
If you think cruelty to animals is something new and revolutionary, and that there was this massive love and oneness and communal living between man and nature, you have got another thing com I will guarantee you if the if the environmentalist wackos ever get their way and revert everybody's lifestyles back to the eighteen hundreds and the nineteen hundreds, the animal rights people will not put up with what we will have to do to animals in order to survive ourselves.
Back in a second.
Hi, welcome back.
Uh Rush Limbaugh, the late arriving show prep continues to pour in here to the EIB Southern Command.
Uh let's see.
Cynthia in uh in Keela, Montana.
Hope I'm pronouncing that right.
You're next.
It's great to have you here with us.
Hi, Rush.
It's an honor to speak to you.
I can't tell you.
Thank you very, very, very much.
But I was calling um in regards to listening to Senator Schumer, and it just all I could think of was Hillary, and I could hear your parody in my mind.
I don't recall.
I don't recall.
And she couldn't remember anything.
And that was grand jury.
That was grand jury testimony.
Yeah.
Yeah.
And may I tell you one other thing that the last caller reminded me of?
Yeah.
Yesterday at work, I worked just part time, and uh I tell people all through the day what's going on in politics, because I listened to you.
Yes.
And anyway, I had an elderly lady and she was sweet as could be, started talking about all the deer that keep getting hit on the roads out here.
And I said, Well, they just paved our road out here in Kyla, and we are seeing more dead deer on the road because people are driving like fifty in the 35 mile an hour zone.
Right.
And she said, Oh, they've just got to stop killing our wildlife.
And I looked at her and I went, yes, because I'd rather have it in my freezer than bloated on the side of the road.
Oh my goodness, you should have seen her face.
Good for you.
What'd she do?
She she just sputtered.
She's by the way, that's great.
Look, uh uh Cynthia, thanks thanks very much for the call.
The uh substitute broadcast uh engineer, Ed, uh working today, uh said that um uh dog fighting uh as far as historians have been able to document had its origins in the Roman Empire.
Now the Roman Empire, for those of you in Rio Linda's 2000 BC up to AD.
I probably lost them there too.
It was many, many years ago.
Uh and and uh look what happened to them, folks.
Look what happened to the Romans.
They became the Sopranos.
That was long after their empire fell apart.
By the way, we have that Hillary parody that Cynthia from Kyla Montana was referred to.
You ready to go on that, Ed?
Yeah, well, here it is.
And we are heading back to the phones.
Kevin in Fresno.
I'm glad you waited, sir.
Appreciate uh your patience.
Hi, Rush, Megadetto.
Thank you.
Um, I've been listening for a long time, and I'm calling about something that I believe pervades a lot of the things that you talk about here.
Um I was reading a book by C. S. Lewis uh a while back, and uh he said that the main corporate sin in the Western world today is the belief that kindness is the only form of love or virtue.
And uh it really uh explains this whole dogfight thing.
The reason that the dog fight is so much more uh so much worse in their opinion than the killing of a human being is not because the human being was killed or because it was dogs that were killed, it is because he took so much pleasure in the killing of it.
Cruelty is the opposite of kindness, and so you know it stands to reason that that would be the ultimate, you know, horrific thing for them to do.
Uh so the way you're interpreting C. S. Lewis here is that you can understand why people are more upset over the dogs biting the dust than, say, other examples in uh in Atlanta.
Yes.
Because kindness is the only virtue.
That's the corporate sin.
Exactly.
And if you think about uh if you ask a lot of people, maybe even you, I'm not sure.
Conservatives tend to be a little less uh less succumbing to this than uh liberals, but if you ask them, you know, what is the definition of a loving person, they will almost always come back to you with um something with kindness, and this has to do with the immigration bill and with the Senate.
Oh, yeah, we've got to be nice.
It would be nice.
And that's not always the most loving thing to do.
And I think that your solutions or your propositions for the solutions for the immigration reform and for this dog fight are much more loving than the kindness that the liberal.
You know what?
That's that's absolutely right on the money.
One of the things I've always said is that conservatives define compassion by counting the number of people who no longer need the subsistence level support they get from liberal liberals.
I've always said that conservatism is the ultimate form of compassionate because it features love, expectations, and uh and respect for everybody.
Uh, with the the the uh knowledge that people can be far more uh or far better than even they think they can.
We'd be right back.
That's good.
That's good.
Getting uh some complaints from some of you via email that the roster of callers today has been dumber than usual.
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