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July 26, 2007 - Rush Limbaugh Program
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July 26, 2007, Thursday, Hour #1
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Welcome to today's edition of the Rush 24-7 podcast.
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We superimposed him as a guest on C-SPAN with Osama bin Laden D, Afghanistan.
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Oprah Winfrey, I didn't get around to mentioning this yesterday.
$260 million that she earned last year.
That's more than a quarter of a billion dollars for those of you in Rio Linda.
And we can only wonder, ladies and gentlemen, how much more would she have earned if she were not African American?
Well, we're such a racist country, Mr. Snurdley.
How much more would she have earned were she white?
You have to wonder about these things.
By the way, nobody was even closer on television, and the next closest was the Simon, is it Crowell?
Is that how he pronounced it?
Because I don't watch American Idol.
Simon Crowell is how he pronounced it.
Crowell, Cowell, whatever.
All right, well, he was next at $45 million.
And he had the TV anchors in there.
It's one of the judges, and he owns, I think, part of the program, American Idol.
And then you've got the TV.
Katie Couric, I think, was next at 15, and then Charlie Gibson and the rest of the guys.
And I just, you know, whenever we hear of the salaries and the total compensation packages of big-time CEOs, the drive-bys always tell us what the janitors at ExxonMobil are making or what the sex retaries are making.
Some of the underlings.
I wonder, wouldn't it be interesting to know what Oprah's producers make?
Wouldn't it be interesting to know what Katie Couric and Charlie Gibson's producers make?
Some of the underlings here within the drive-by media.
All right, ladies and gentlemen, lots going on today, but I have to lead off with this.
There is in the current issue, maybe it's on their website, which is where I got it.
Yes, it's on the website.
It is the most unbelievable story about Michael Vick and how Atlanta is roiled over what has happened.
The story is by Jack Wilkinson, and it says here, special to SI.com.
Jack Wilkinson is a guest columnist for SI.com.
He lives in Atlanta.
His latest book is Game of My Life, Atlanta Braves.
And of course, it says here, it's in major bookstores now.
May I read you some select excerpts from this sports illustrated story about Vick, Michael Vick, and the indictment, dog fighting, and so forth.
Quote, I tell you, this is a big scar for the city, said Bill McCloskey, the manager emeritus at Manuel's Tavern, the venerable in-town bar where politicians, journalists, cops, actors, sports authorities, and neighborhood nabobs are either scratching or shaking their heads over the federal indictment of Vic.
This, said Bill McCloskey, is bigger than Ray Lewis.
Bigger than Ray Lewis.
Maybe we get serious here for just a second.
Whatever Vic's accused of doing, and remember, these are just accusations so far.
We've been here with the Duke LaCrosse case.
Amazes me that, and I have warned people, all of these indictments, these charges that come down from prosecutors, I have told you we are inclined as human beings to believe what law enforcement says.
They never lie.
The drive-by media says, sources close to the investigation say, blah, blah, blah.
And we've seen in the Duke LaCrosse case and a couple of other high-profile examples in the last year or so that some of these charges never pan out.
The Duke case, I mean, ought to have everybody say, wait a second, just wait a second here.
But in Atlanta, this is bigger than Ray Lewis.
Now, what was Ray Lewis had a double murder charge hanging over him after a bar fight or something had happened during Super Bowl week in Atlanta back in the 90s.
And he was on trial for it, and he ended up turning state's evidence against people.
He was eventually, I forget what it was acquitted or plead out, pled out of it.
I'm not sure what, but a guy died.
A human being died in the Ray Lewis incident.
And Ray Lewis, the Browns, well, the Baltimore Ravens, Art Model, the owner, immediately went into action.
I love Ray Lewis.
Ray Lewis, a great guy.
Shannon Sharp, who was a teammate, tight end.
Ray Lewis, a great guy.
This is all bogus, blah, blah.
Everybody surrounded the wagons around Ray Lewis, and he played.
He played in that season following all of this.
I think his trial was in the spring.
He ended up playing.
Vic has been told to stay away from training camp, stay away from everybody.
The Falcons were thinking about suspending him for four games and maybe cutting him.
Nike has refused.
They're going to hold off on the latest Vic sneaker.
But to say that this is bigger than Ray Lewis, where a guy died, maybe that two people might have been stabbed in that incident.
These were dogs in Vic's case.
Here's another one.
Brian Malouf, the proprietor at Manuel's Tavern.
This is embarrassing to the city.
It sure lets us know about Vic's character.
The wrestler, Chris Benoit, that's nothing.
That's in print, and it's in Sports Illustrated.
The wrestler, that's nothing.
He killed his son.
He killed his wife.
Then he hung himself.
Hey, so it sure lets us know about Vic's character.
The wrestler, that's nothing.
Don't get me wrong.
It's not really nothing.
There was obviously some mental illness there, the depression that that man had to suffer from to take your own life, your wife, and child's lives, even with steroids.
But this is almost like some sick Roman blood sport that Vic did.
This is just horrible.
And Hunter Malouf, he's 12 years old, and he's the son of Brian Malouf.
Yeah, this is going to make me change my wardrobe.
I kind of felt like throwing it away when I heard the news.
Rabid Vic fan proudly wore Falcons jersey with Vic's name and number seven number, but no more.
There was a picture of that cute little dog on the news, and they killed it because it wouldn't fight.
That's just evil.
I like dogs.
So you have two instances here.
The Ray Lewis situation where a murder took place.
And we still, I don't think we know who actually committed the murder in that situation, but Lewis was in the bar when it happened.
It was very controversial.
A human being died.
The Chris Benoit situation, where three people died, one of the three killed the other two, and this story in Sports Illustrated says, well, the Vic thing is far worse.
It's just far worse.
Now, can you come up, ladies and gentlemen, in your own minds with a reason why people are thinking this way?
What do you think, Snerdley?
Why are people thinking this way?
Absolutely right.
After all of these abortions in this country for all of these years since 1973, this Sports Illustrated story, and I think they probably think they're breaking new ground.
This is a testament.
This is an illustration to the devaluation of human life that has occurred throughout our culture.
Now, I understand, and I understand how people are upset with Vic if all this stuff is true, because it was cruel.
I mean, they kill these dogs and hang them and electrocute them and this sort of thing.
You see, animals differ from human beings in the human psyche in that animals represent the essence of innocence, except pit bulls.
One of the things that people are leaving out of this is a pit bull is not the essence of innocence.
A pit bull is as much a predator as any dog you're going to have can be.
But I'm not saying they need to be eliminated or killed.
Don't misunderstand.
I'm just saying we all have a tendency.
We see a picture of an animal and went, ooh, essence of innocence.
It's like a baby because we feed pets, especially.
They can't take care of themselves after we've domesticated them.
They love us, give us unconditional love.
How could you treat the essence of innocence that way?
Oh, fine and dandy.
I understand that psychologically.
But to have a major sports book, what have I told you about these sports media?
There's every bit as liberal as the news drive-bys are.
And to have a story here where Atlanta citizens are quoted as saying the Vic thing is far worse than the Ray Lewis thing.
And then the wrestler thing, why?
Don't get me wrong.
It's not really nothing.
But I mean, there was mental depression there going on and so forth and so on.
The whole story, and we will link to it at rushlimbaugh.com, is just over the top.
Atlanta reeling.
Vic's alleged crimes, alleged crimes are worse than Ray Lewis and Chris Benoit.
It just shows you how human life has been so devalued in our culture.
Here, what kind of person does this sort of thing?
What type of man not only breeds dogs to fight, but then kills the losers in the most horrific of ways?
Strangulation, drowning, electrocution, even slamming the pitiable animal against the ground.
And has another city suffered such a one-two-three combo to its sporting solar plexus in recent memory as has Atlanta?
I tell you, it's a big scar for the city, said Bill McCloskey, manager emeritus at Manuel's.
This is bigger than Ray Lewis.
Quick timeout.
We'll be back.
It's bigger than Chris Benoit.
Back after this.
All right, here are the details on the Ray Lewis situation.
I had forgotten some of the details.
This is from June 5th of 2000, is when this happened.
And it's in the CNN Sports Illustrated, which is the SI website.
A judge on Monday approved a deal allowing Baltimore Ravens linebacker Ray Lewis to avoid murder charges and jail time by pleading guilty to a misdemeanor in testifying against two co-defendants.
He pleaded guilty to obstruction of justice.
And the Superior Court Judge Alice Bonner sentenced him to 12 months probation, the maximum sentence for a first-time offender.
The terms of the sentence, Lewis cannot use drugs or alcohol during the duration of the period, blah, blah, blah.
He had he went ahead and played.
The prosecution's case against Ray Lewis suffered setbacks when key witnesses provided conflicting testimony.
Look, this is not about Ray Lewis.
I've got no brief against Ray Lewis here.
This has all been resolved, and he's done what he can to rebuild and hone his image as one of the great linebackers in NFL history.
It's just this story, the people in Atlanta say, oh, this is bigger than Ray Lewis.
Nobody is, you know, a human being has not died in his Michael Vick situation.
And it's just amazing to me that people can sit there and make this judgment when nothing's been proved yet.
Nothing has been established.
These are all still allegations from the BBC.
This is BBC and Wikipedia.
The BBC website said that Ray Lewis, who had originally, and I'm just getting this out there because I want the record established because I had forgotten some of these details.
Ray Lewis, who had originally lied to police about his proximity to the incident, the murder, pledged was a knife stabbing, pled guilty to obstructing justice, but was acquitted along with his co-defendants of murder.
Acquitted but not exonerated.
That's what the BBC says.
And he was fined a quarter of a million dollars by the NFL, which at the time was the largest fine that they had ever handed out.
So, anyway, those are the details on the Ray Lewis situation.
Sammy in Hot Springs Village, Arkansas.
Nice to have you on the program, sir.
Welcome.
Hey, Rush, how are you doing?
I just had to call in.
I turned on your monologue.
I listened to you almost daily for the last, I guess it's about 18 years.
I just wanted to, one of the things I want to tell you was I'm about as conservative as they get, but there's two issues you and I have always kind of disagreed on.
I think, although over the years, I think you've softened on the animal rights thing.
But getting back to what you're saying about abortion, things like that, I've always been one of these conservatives.
I just didn't care one way or the other.
I had no opinion on it one way or the other.
Never was a single issue voter or something like that and just didn't care.
Animal rights, getting to the animal rights thing, I'm not a big sports fan.
To be quite frank with you, I quit following a lot of professional sports just due to these things.
What do you disagree with me about?
Well, about the and initially, when you'll get to my point on that, my point is that I guess after spending about two and a half decades in law enforcement, I realized that humans are basically evil and that animals have, in other words, for some reason in my life, as I've hit my upper 40s, mid-40s, I've began to, you know, in other words, let me just put you this way.
This big guy, I didn't know who this guy was until this came on the news.
Wait a minute, Sammy, none of this matters.
And I'm really not interested in your resume.
You said you disagreed with me.
Okay.
And my point was, I believe since abortion was legalized that human life in this country has been devalued.
You probably think, no, it's always been evil.
Human beings have always had a tendency to be evil.
Is that what you're going to say?
Well, I just say that from my personal, I think I see what I'm getting at is that I see why people are drawn to animal cruelty things like this.
It's because they can't, you know, you have your pet, your pet is good, it depends on you for companion.
It's just a company.
I understand that.
I understand.
I made that point.
Animals are the essence of innocence.
I understand why people are upset if this is all true.
Well, we know the dogs are elected.
We know that, I guess, we don't know yet.
That's just the allegiance.
All this is in the indictment.
We really don't know anything yet.
But if that's true, yes, I can understand why people have a gut wrench about that.
That's fine and dandy.
But for people in Atlanta, Sammy, to come out and say that is bigger than incidents where human beings are killed just stuns me.
And the only way it can be the case, the only way it can be true, is if people think the dogs' lives here are more valuable and are a greater loss than the loss of the three members of the Chris Benoit family and whoever it was that was stabbed in that incident where Ray Lewis was involved.
You have to think that the loss of these dogs is a greater loss to society and is something more painful than the loss of human beings.
I understand the psychology of why people associate themselves with animals, essence of innocence and all that, but I think there has been a devaluation of, well, I know there has been.
Kvorkian, you had we're deciding on who lives in this country based on the inconvenience their lives cause to the living, both when they're in the womb and when they become elderly.
And that can't happen unless, and we always say, well, we're doing it because they would want it this way.
They either wouldn't want to be born into poverty.
And Mr. Sterley, I'm not trying to get abortion calls start.
Folks, let's not, I'm just establishing my reasons here for and trying to explain to him my literal incredulity at some of the comments in this Sports Illustrated story.
Sammy, thanks for the phone call.
This is John in Atlanta.
Nice to have you, sir, on the EIB network.
Hey, Rush.
No, I know you're sitting there.
You're saying we should not pass judgment against Michael Vick because nothing has been proven.
But I ask you, the O.J. Simpson trial, nothing was proven.
He was not convicted.
Therefore, my question is, do you think O.J. Simpson is a murderer, a killer?
Well, a lot of stuff was proven.
And the jury just said, screw it.
A lot of stuff was proven in the O.J. Come on, folks.
What are we doing?
Why was he proven?
But he wasn't convicted.
He was.
A lot of stuff was proven in the O.J. case.
The jury just said, screw you, L.A. Jury nullification.
Find out what it like.
There's hardly any doubt.
There was a trial.
There was the presentation of evidence.
That hasn't happened in the Vic case.
You have to ask.
You've read the 18-page indictment.
Have you read the indictment with all the evidence there?
Yeah, I've read.
I didn't read all 18 pages.
Well, go ahead and read that, and then you can go ahead and pass judgment against Michael Vick like I already passed judgment.
I am trying to share with you my experiences.
Does the Duke La Crosse case mean anything to you?
Absolutely.
There was no evidence.
There was no evidence whatsoever.
It was concerned.
The point is that like you, you read the 18-page indictment, and he's guilty.
It's done.
It's over with.
Law enforcement's never wrong.
Law enforcement would never, ever try to convict somebody who didn't do anything.
Do you hear what Emmett Smith said about this?
Emmett Smith, the Hall of Fame running back, or soon-to-be Hall of Fame running back with the Dallas Cowboys.
He said, you know, I know how these guys work.
This, they're pressuring Vic to get the guys really behind this.
That's what Emmett Smith did.
Emmett Smith, I know Emmett Smith.
He's a smart guy.
And he thinks that the best way the feds can get the people they really want here is to go after the high-profile guy.
Now, you have to say that's possible.
We know that this is how things actually work.
Get Vic to cop out, to tell people in law enforcement what was really going on there.
Make him the target, make him the subject because he's high-profile, pressure his life, his future, his career for him to unload the goods.
Anything's possible here is the point.
We just don't know enough yet to start concluding things.
All right.
I've checked the email.
By the way, why am I the most dangerous man in America?
It's because I'm right.
I'm the most dangerous man in America to the left and to the Democrat Party.
All right.
Apparently, even though I am a highly trained broadcast specialist, and even though I am a master communicator, apparently some of you are misunderstanding what I'm saying here.
I got an email from a friend.
I thought you'd be all for yanking Vic from the team.
I know nothing's proven, but it doesn't look like he'll be anything but guilty.
I'm not defending what Vic is alleged to have done.
And I'm not suggesting he shouldn't be thrown up.
The Falcons can do what they want.
The NFL can do what they, he's an employee there.
They've got, I'm not, I'm not objecting to that at all.
I'm offering analogies, comparisons.
Remember now, I am reacting here to a couple of statements by people in the latest Sports Illustrated that this with the dogs is worse for Atlanta than the Chris Benoit thing where he killed his wife and son and then hanged himself.
And the Ray Lewis situation where somebody died in the bar after midnight with a knife.
Those things are nothing compared to this, we've got people quoted as saying.
To put this in perspective, I'm going to try, it's probably just going to infuriate some of you even more.
I read just the other day, there was a story about somebody got, oh, somebody was shooting cats, stray cats with a BB gun, and been charged with a felony.
In the meantime, the city, it was Indianapolis.
Yeah, this guy, as I said, his NFL career is over if he wants one.
He's shooting cats with a BB gun because they were bugging him.
City of Indianapolis euthanized over 7,000 cats last year.
But they did it humanely, Rush.
They didn't shoot.
I know they did it humanely.
Fine, okay.
But we do this all the time.
If you sat down to dinner last night, and I guarantee whatever you ate was probably electrocuted first.
Be it a chicken.
When I was a kid, one of the first field trips we had was to a slaughterhouse, and I will never forget the pigs being electrocuted behind the head, behind the ears, and then hoisted up.
And being slaughtered.
Now, we're doing that for food, Rush.
We're doing that for food.
We weren't doing that for sports.
But still, we do it in greater numbers than Vic ever did.
But these are dogs, Rush.
These are pets.
I understand the psychology.
How many Katrina, Hurricane Katrina victims abandoned their pets while skedaddling out of town?
Those that could leave and did.
What do you think?
What are we to think of those people and their attitudes and hearts?
All I'm saying here, and I'm not defending what happened up there.
I'm just, you understand, for the Sports Illustrated to have a story with people thinking that that's far worse than instances where human beings die.
Sorry, that I note.
I notice I take note of it.
Here's Anna in Van Buren, Arkansas.
Nice to have you on the EIB network.
Hey, Rush.
Hey.
Love you lots.
Want to tell you that I really agree with the fact that you view this as a devaluation of human life.
It's a symptom.
It absolutely is.
But what I wanted to do is kind of set you straight.
I don't want you perpetrating the myth about pits.
I'm a veterinary assistant and have been for many, many years.
I've owned a pit bull.
And do you know, not one pit that I have ever encountered have I ever had a problem with.
It depends on their ownership.
When we have a pit come into the office, I'm overjoyed.
When we have a Chihuahua come in, I want to throw a muzzle on it.
Yeah, well, those are little ankle-biting yappers.
I understand over there.
Those things that look like they're going to die of a nervous breakdown.
The problem is, though, we've been bitten by chihuahuas, by dachshunds, by chows.
They have the very same temperament as pit bulls, which is territorial and aggressive.
All right, all right, I know where you're headed.
So you're going to say the pit bull becomes what it becomes because of the owners.
Well, all dogs do.
All dogs do.
Every single one of them.
And I just, I understand why people are afraid of them.
They're big.
They're powerful, and without being socialized and properly cared for, they are dangerous.
Just like Rottweilers or Chows or anything.
They're screwed to shreds.
Oh, yeah.
But if the Chihuahua was the size of the pit bull, my God, we'd be in deep trouble.
So, what I'm saying is that the personality of the dog depends on the owner.
Most of the time, the pit bulls we have that we know are going to turn out bad are because their owners are usually all right.
I understand what you're saying.
I did sort of indict the breed.
There's no question.
It's as close to a predator as you can get.
I just have never seen well, Dobermans.
I don't want to.
I don't want to spend all day with people calling defending their breeds, their favorite breeds.
I know you love your dogs.
I love my cat.
I've had dogs.
I understand all this.
I'm trying to keep this focused.
And apparently, I'm the only one that thinks this is any big deal.
Apparently, every call has been arguing with me about this.
Here's what is this?
Ram in Los Angeles.
Ram, you're next in the EIB network.
Hello.
Hi, Rush.
Pleasure to be with you.
Can you hear me okay?
Yeah, I hear you just fine, Ram.
Okay, great.
I think the humans have a greater connection to animals because animals don't have the ability to ponder over consequence.
They don't have a choice.
Once they're trained, it's due.
They don't have the ability to stand back and defend themselves.
They can't take a gun and shoot the human dead.
But a human has the ability to choose.
They have the ability to figure out what is consequence.
What's your belief on that?
What are you saying here, Ram?
That it's worse to kill these dogs because they have no defense.
There's no choice.
They have no choice.
Like Chris Benoit's son could have resisted the pills that his dad gave him and not strangled him, and he could have run out of the house.
And Chris Benoit's wife somehow could have escaped if she wanted to.
But the dogs can't do that.
That's true.
You're absolutely right.
But Chris Benoit also had the choice not to kill his wife and son.
He has that choice.
He doesn't have to kill his wife and his child.
I think he has that.
Well, I know, but.
And Michael Vick had the choice not to do what he did to these dogs.
But the difference you're saying is the dogs had no choice in avoiding it, but Benoit's kid and wife might have had a choice in avoiding it, but failed.
And so killing the dogs is worse because they sat there and let themselves be killed.
They had a choice.
Is that what you're saying?
They did not have a choice.
The animals did not have a choice.
But did you think Benoit's wife and son had a choice?
To get away.
Yes, I think to get away.
If they saw a sign.
And why did they sit there and allow themselves to be killed?
They probably were under some kind of, as you said, a drug.
I've read the toxicology.
The kid had Xanax, which is 10 times as powerful as Valium.
And the wife had a bunch of stuff, too.
But they had a choice not to take that stuff.
Yeah, well, maybe it was forced down their throats.
You never know.
I mean, he could have drugged them and could have hurt them in some other way.
It impacted their mental capacity.
Thank you.
Fascinating.
Fast if.
Ram, thanks for the phone call.
Fascinating to the Ram just hung up out there.
Bayside New York, this is Vinny Vinny.
Welcome to the program, sir.
Maha Rushi.
It's great to be talking to you again.
Nice to have you back here, Vinny.
Listen, I think conservatives are easily as outraged about this as liberals.
That's number one.
Number two, it's not surprising.
This is a visceral reaction from.
Wait a second.
Who's turning this into a partisan issue?
No, no, I'm not.
I mean, you had mentioned something about how liberal Sports Illustrated was and the, you know, the sports media in general.
And I agree with that.
I'm just stating, as a conservative, and I am an ultra-conservative, I am above outrage.
I want to see Michael Vick, if he's guilty, I want to see him get the full extent of the law, you know, apply to him, number one.
Number two, you know, I don't necessarily see this as a devaluation of human life.
I think you're reading just too much into this.
I think one thing is one thing, and this is another.
This recalls that case out in California a few years ago where a man had a highway altercation with a woman and he took her little shih tzu or whatever it was and threw it into oncoming traffic and the dog got killed.
Do you remember that?
No.
Well, it caused nationwide outrage.
I mean, it was on every major news program and people were just so outraged because they must have been on vacation when that happened because I don't remember.
Actually, threw a shihzu in the oncoming traffic.
Well, I don't know if the dog was a shihhzu.
It was a little tiny one.
Well, then why did you say it was a shihzu?
Because look at what.
My whole point is.
You just wanted to say shih tzu on the EIB next year.
Absolutely not, sir.
I leave all the good lines for you.
I'm here to make the host look good.
Right.
You have, unwittingly.
And as far as what the people in Atlanta are saying about this is worse than Ben Wine said, it's not just an error of judgment.
But that's what happens when you have a visceral reaction.
You say things that you think about later and you realize, hey, you know, that was really quite silly of me to say.
But look, people associate their pets as human beings, practically.
This is not weird to me what we're seeing about this.
This was cruel, wanton, evil.
I agree, it's cruel.
But these people in Atlanta are acting like the degree of cruelty here dwarfs the degree of cruelty in the other circumstances.
Okay.
Look, Vinny, I have to run here.
EIB Obscene Profit Center timeout, but I'm glad you called.
Thanks so much.
We will be back and continue here in just a second.
Okay, I was hoping I wasn't going to have to do this.
But it is clear to me, ladies and gentlemen, I think also what's happening to probably many of you out there who understand precisely what I'm saying, and that's why you're not calling.
Those who are up in arms over what I'm saying or don't agree, those are the ones who are.
All right, so let me fire with dead aim right between your eyes.
Okay?
What if I were to say to you, those are Michael Vick's dogs, and that was his property, and whatever he wants to do with them is his choice, is his right.
Don't we have politicians telling us that women can do that with their babies in the womb?
Where's the outrage over that?
Well, we don't see it.
When you do, though, if you ever see a picture of one of these late-term abortions, then you'll be as mad.
But, I mean, on the one hand, this is all I mean about devaluing life.
We can sit there and casually talk about how liberated we are.
1.3 million abortions a year, 11 pit bulls.
We hear about how they die.
And note, the pro-aborts do not want you to know any details about how abortions take place.
They don't want you to see it.
They don't want you to know it because they know what your reaction would be.
Still, we know that they take place.
But that comes under the rubric of women's rights and liberation and so forth.
In fact, this is one of the most sickening things about the feminazis to me is that they've been selling abortion since 1973 as an act of liberation for women.
That's the thing that's always made, sickened me about it.
But here we have 11 dogs, pit bulls, histois, massive outrage.
Now, I understand the psychological attachment, but is there, can you see any difference here at all?
Any find anything peculiar about the lack of outrage on the one hand and the total national outrage here over the dog thing on the other?
Also got a note, a friend of mine said the Chris Benoit thing, the reason why this Vic thing is being thought of as worse than the Chris Benoit thing is because Chris Benoit also killed himself.
Everybody in that situation died.
If he were still alive after having murdered his wife and daughter, then there would be profound outrage.
That may be true.
There may be some validity to that.
Here's Gary in, what is that?
Filer, Idaho.
Filer, Idaho.
Nice to have you, Gary.
Thank you for taking my call, sir.
Yes.
Just as you were reading the details of the story, it occurred to me that if you left the name out and the details are the same as what Saddam Hussein did, people have compassion on murder, torture, electrocution on Saddam Hussein did to countless victims that were human, that we have to hang Michael Vick for his dog victims.
Yeah, well, you can play this any number of ways.
You could also talk about how outraged people got over torture committed by American troops at Abu Ghraib and the alleged torture at Club Gitmo, where nobody died.
But yet there's all I'm saying is there's so many inconsistencies here in the degree of outrage.
And hey, you want a dog story?
Because I'm going to move on after this.
I'm going to move on.
I'm going to get out of here and I'm going to head on down to other stuff.
I mean, I'll give you an example.
New York cab drivers threaten strike over GPS systems.
Well, a trade body representing more than 8,000 New York taxi drivers threatening to call a strike over the city's plans to introduce satellite positioning systems in every cab.
Well, there's some things we don't need to say here, right, to understand why these people might be mad.
You could rename the program Track Your Local Muslim.
Track Your Local immigrants.
That's why they're upset about it.
We'll be doing something.
The underdog imperative, Winter Lewis, kids should not be shielded from competition.
We've talked about that a lot.
We got immigration news.
All kinds of fireworks occurred in the Senate yesterday, and Lindsey Gramnesty is now getting shellacked by Ted Kennedy.
Ted Kennedy not happy.
But here's a dog story.
A black Labrador that burrowed through smoking debris after September 11th and flooded rubble after Hurricane Katrina in search of survivors has died of cancer.
Owner Mary Flood had 12-year-old Jake put to sleep Wednesday after a last stroll through the fields and a dip in the creek near their home in Oakley, Utah.
Flood said that Jake had been in pain, shaking with a 105-degree fever as he lay on the lawn.
No one can say whether the dog would have gotten sick if he hadn't been exposed to the toxic air at the World Trade Center, but cancer in dogs that's Jake's age is quite common.
Was 12 years old.
But it's a sad story.
See, I mean, it's a horribly sad story.
We all just, ooh, a hero rescued dog.
If you want to feel better about it, it's Bush's fault.
Back in a sec.
I'll tell you: here's how we're going to wrap this up, folks.
We're just, from now on, we're going to change the whole concept of innocent until proven guilty to guilty until proven indicted.
There's no more innocent until proven guilty.
There's guilty until proven indicted.
By the way, Michael Nyfwong, disgraced former prosecutor, acknowledged today that there is no credible evidence that three Duke La Crosse players committed any of the crimes he accused them of more than a year ago.
We all need to heal, Nyfwong said.
It's my hope we can start this process today.
His apology came as a judge began considering whether to hold him in criminal contempt of court for his handling of the case.
Well, I bet this guy was going to write up one hell of an indictment, too.
Of course, these guys, these local guys, differ from the feds, and I understand that, business.
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