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July 26, 2007 - Rush Limbaugh Program
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July 26, 2007, Thursday, Hour #1
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Welcome to today's edition of the Rush 24-7 podcast.
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Oprah Winfrey.
I didn't get around to mentioning this yesterday.
260 million dollars that she earned uh last year.
That's more than a quarter of a billion dollars for those of you in uh Rio Linda.
And we we can only wonder, uh, ladies and gentlemen, how much more would she have earned if she were not African American?
Well, we're such a racist country, Mr. Snerdley, how much more would she have earned were she white?
You have to you have to you have to wonder about these things.
By the way, nobody was even close to her on television, and the next closest was the Simon is it Crowell?
Is that how he pronounced it?
Because I don't watch American Idol.
Uh Simon Crowell is how I pronounced Crowell.
Cowell, whatever.
All right, well, he was next at 45 million dollars.
And then he had a TV anchors in there.
He's uh it's one of the judges, and he's uh owns, I think, part of the program, American Idol.
And then you've got um we got uh the TV Katie Courick, I think was next at 15, and then uh Charlie Gibson and the rest of the guys.
And I just, you know, whenever these uh what whenever we hear of the salaries and the total compensation packages of big-time CEOs, the drive-by's always tell us uh what the janitors at Exxon Mobil are making, uh, or or what the secretaries are making.
See, some of the um uh underlings.
I wouldn't I wonder, wouldn't it be interesting to know what Oprah's producers make?
Uh, wouldn't it be interesting to know what Katie Courick and Charlie Gibson's producers make?
Some of the underlings here uh within the uh within the drive-by media.
All right, uh ladies and gentlemen, uh lots going on today, but I I have to lead off with this.
There is in the current issue, maybe it's on their website, uh, which is where I got it.
Yes, it's on the website.
It is the most unbelievable story about Michael Vick and how Atlanta is royal over what has happened.
The uh the story is by Jack Wilkinson.
And it says here, special to SI.com.
Uh Jack Wilkinson is a guest columnist for SI.com.
He lives in Atlanta.
His latest book is Game of My Life, Atlanta Braves.
And of course, it says here it's in major bookstores now.
May I may I read you some select excerpts from this sports illustrated story about Vic, Michael Vick and the indictment, the dog fighting and so forth.
Quote, I tell you this is a big scar for the city, said Bill McCloskey, the manager emeritus at Manuel's Tavern, the venerable in town bar where politicians, journalists, cops, actors, sports authorities, and neighborhood nabobs are either scratching or shaking their heads over the federal indictment of Vic.
This said Bill McCloskey is bigger than Ray Lewis.
Bigger than Ray Lewis.
May we get serious here for just a second.
Whatever Vic's accused of doing, and remember, these are just accusations so far.
We've been here with the Duke Lacrosse case amazes me that this and I have warned people, all of these indictments, these charges that come down from prosecutors.
I have told you we are inclined as human beings to believe what law enforcement says.
They never lie.
The drive-by media says sources close to the investigation.
Say, blah, blah.
And we've seen in the Duke Lacrosse case and a couple of other high profile examples in the last year or so that uh some of these charges never pan out.
The Duke case, I mean, ought to have everybody said, wait a second, just wait a second here.
But in in Atlanta, this is bigger than Ray Lewis.
Now, what was Ray Lewis had had a had a double murder charge hanging over him after a bar fight or some something had happened uh during Super Bowl week in Atlanta back in the uh in the 90s, and he was on trial for it and he ended up turning uh state's evidence against people.
He was eventually uh I I forget what it was acquitted or plead out, pled uh plit out of it.
I'm not I'm not sure it works, but a guy died.
A human being died in the Ray Lewis incident.
And Ray Lewis of the the Browns, well, the the Baltimore Ravens, art model, the owner immediately went into action.
I love Ray Lewis, Ray Lewis a great guy, Shannon Sharp was a teammate, tight end, Ray Lewis, a great guy.
This is all bogus, blah, blah.
Everybody surrounded the wagons around Ray Lewis, and he played.
He played in that season following all of this.
I think his trial was in the spring.
He ended up playing.
Vic has been told to stay away from training camp, stay away from everybody.
The Falcons were thinking about suspending him for four games and maybe cutting him.
Uh Nike has refused that they're going to hold off on the latest Vic sneaker.
Uh but to to say that to to say that this is bigger than Ray Lewis, where a guy died.
Maybe that two people might have been stabbed in that incident.
These were these were dogs in Vic's case.
Here's another one, Brian Malouf.
The proprietor at Manuel's Tavern.
This is embarrassing to the city.
It sure lets us know about Vic's character.
The wrestler, Chris Benoit, that's nothing.
He own That's in print, and it's in Sports Illustrated.
The wrestler, that's nothing.
He killed his son, he killed his wife, then he hung himself.
Hey, sir, can it sure lets us know about Vic's character?
The wrestler, that's nothing.
Don't get me wrong.
It's not really nothing.
There was obviously some mental illness there, the depression that that man had to suffer from to take your own life, your wife, and child's lives, even with steroids.
But this is almost like some sick Roman blood sport that Vic did.
This is just horrible.
And Hunter Maloof, uh, he's uh twelve years old, and he's the son of Brian Malouf.
Yeah, this is gonna make me change my wardrobe.
I I I kind of felt like throwing it away when I heard the news.
Um rabid Vic fan proudly uh wore Falcon's jersey with Vic's name and number seven number, but no more.
There was a picture of that cute little dog on the news, and they killed it because it wouldn't fight.
That's just evil.
I like dogs.
So you have two instances here.
Uh the Ray Lewis situation where um a murder took place, and we still, I don't think we know who actually committed the murder in that situation, but Lewis was in the bar when it happened, it was very controversial.
A human being died.
The Chris Benoit situation, where three people died, one of the two, one of the three killed the other two, and the and the and this story in Sports Illustrated says, well, the Vic thing is far worse.
It's just far worse.
Now, uh, can you come up, ladies and gentlemen, in your own minds, with a reason why people are thinking this way.
What do you think, Snerdly?
Why are people thinking this way?
Absolutely right.
After all of these abortions in this country for all of these years since 1973, this sports illustrated story, and I think they probably think they're breaking new ground.
Uh, this is a testament, this is an illustration to the devaluation of human life that has occurred throughout our culture.
Now, I understand, and and I understand how people are upset with Vic if all this stuff is true, because it was cruel.
I mean, they could kill these dogs and hang them and electrocute them and this sort of thing.
But see, animals differ from human beings in the human psyche in that animals represent the essence of innocence.
Except pit bulls.
This is one of the things that people are leaving out of this is a pit bull is not the essence of innocence.
A pit bull Is is is is as much a predator as uh as any dog you're gonna have can be.
Uh and and but I'm not saying they need to be eliminated or killed.
Don't misunderstand, I'm just saying we all have a tendency.
We see a picture of an animal and when, ooh, essence of innocence.
Because we feed pets, especially can't they they take can't take care of themselves after we've domesticated them, they uh love us, give us unconditional love.
How could you treat the essence of innocence that way?
Oh, fine and dandy.
I understand that psychologically.
But to have a major sports what have I told you about these sports media, there's uh every bit as liberal as the as the news drive-by's are.
And they have a story here where Atlanta citizens are quoted as saying the Vic thing is far worse than a Ray Lewis thing, and then the wrestler thing.
Why that's not that's uh don't get me wrong, it's not really nothing, but I mean there was mental depression there going on and so forth and so on.
Um the whole story, and we will uh link to it at Rush Limbaugh.com is just it's just over the top.
Atlanta reeling Vic's alleged crimes.
Alleged crimes are worse than Ray Lewis and Chris Benoit.
Just shows you how human life has been so devalued in our culture.
Here, what kind of person does this sort of thing?
What type of man not only breeds dogs to fight, but then kills the losers in the most horrific of ways.
Strangulation, drowning electrocution, even slamming the pitiable animal against the ground, and has another city suffered such a one-two-three combo to its sporting solar plexus in recent memory as has Atlanta.
I tell you, it's a big scar for the city, said Bill McCloskey, manager emeritus at Manuels.
This is bigger than Ray Lewis.
Quick timeout.
We'll be back.
It's bigger than Chris Benoit.
Back after this.
All right, here are the details on the uh Ray Lewis situation.
I had forgotten some of the details.
This is from uh June fifth uh of 2000 is when this happened.
Uh and it's in the what's CNN Sports Illustrated, which is the uh S.I. website.
A judge on Monday approved a deal allowing Baltimore Ravens linebacker Ray Lewis to avoid murder charges in jail time by pleading guilty to a misdemeanor in testifying against two co-defendants.
He pleaded guilty to obstruction of justice.
And the Superior Court judge Alice Bonner sentenced him to twelve months probation, the maximum sentence for a first-time offender under terms of the sentence, Lewis cannot use drugs or alcohol during the duration of the period, blah, blah.
And he went ahead and played.
Uh he uh the the prosecution's case against Ray Lewis suffered setbacks when key witnesses provided conflicting testimony.
I look at uh this is not about Ray Lewis.
I I'm I've I got no brief against Ray Lewis here.
This has all been resolved, and he's done what he can to rebuild and and uh hone his image as one of the great linebackers in uh NFL history.
It's just this story, the people in Atlanta says, Oh, this is bigger than Ray Lewis.
Nobody is, you know, a human being has not died in his Michael Vick situation.
Uh and and it's uh it's just it's it's just amazing to me that that that people can sit there and make this judgment uh when nothing's been proved yet.
Nothing has been established.
These are all still uh allegations from the BBC.
This is BBC and Wikipedia, the BBC website said that Ray Lewis who had originally and I'm just getting this out there because I want the record uh established because I had forgotten some of these details.
Uh Ray Lewis, who had originally lied to police about his proximity to the incident, the murder, pled guilt was a knife stabbing, uh pled guilty to obstructing justice, but was acquitted along with his co-defendants of murder.
Acquitted but not exonerated.
That's what the BBC says.
And he was fined a quarter of a million dollars by the NFL, which at the time was the largest fine that they had ever um uh handed out.
So uh those are the details on the Ray Lewis situation.
Sammy in Hot Springs Village, Arkansas.
Nice to have you on the program, sir.
Welcome.
Hey Royce, how you doing?
Uh good sir.
Uh had to call in.
I turned on your monologue.
I listened to you uh almost daily for the last uh I guess it's about eighteen years.
Um I just wanted to one of the things I want to tell you is I'm about as conservative as they get, but there's two issues you and uh I have always kind of disagreed on, I think, all the all the over the years I think you've softened on the animal rights thing.
But The getting back to what you're saying about abortion, things like that.
I've always been one of these conservatives.
I just didn't care one way or the other.
I had no opinion on it uh one way or the other, never was a single issue vote on something like that, and just didn't care.
Uh animal rights, getting to the animal rights thing, uh I'm not a big sports fan.
Uh to be quite frank with you, I quit following a lot of professional sports just due to these things.
So what do you what do you disagree with me about?
Well, about the and initially when you were uh here I'll get to my point on that.
My my point is that uh I I guess after spending uh about two and a half decades in law enforcement, I realized that humans are basically evil and that animals have uh in other words, I uh for some reason in my in my life as I've hit my upper 40s, mid-fors, I've I've I began to uh you know, in other words, let me just put you this way this big guy, I didn't know who this guy was till this came on the news and I mean.
Wait a minute, Sammy, none of this matters, and I'm I'm really not interested in your resume.
You said you just you said you disagreed with me.
Okay.
You and you s you you what my point was I believe since abortion was legalized that human life in this country has been devalued.
You probably think no, it's always been evil.
Human life who human beings have always had a tendency to be evil.
Uh that what you're gonna say?
Well, I I just say that in from my personal I think I see what what I'm getting at is that I see why people uh are are drawn to animal cruelty things like this.
It's it's because they can't, you know, you have your pet, your pet is good, it it it depends on you for companion.
It's just a companion.
I understand that.
I understand I even made I made that point.
Animals are the essence of innocence.
I uh I understand why people are upset if this is all true.
Well, we know the dogs were electric we do we know that I guess we we well, we don't know yet.
That's just the LGL, all this is in the indictment.
We really don't know anything yet.
But if that's true, yes, I can understand why people have a gut wrench about that.
That's fine and dandy.
But for people in Atlanta, Sammy, to come out and say that is bigger than incidents where human beings are killed, just stuns me.
And the only way it can be the case, the only way it can be true is if people think the dogs' lives here are more valuable and are a greater loss than the loss of the three members of the Chris Benoit family and uh and whoever it was that was stabbed in that incident where Ray Lewis was involved.
You have to think that the loss of these dogs is a greater loss to society and is uh is something more painful than the loss of uh of human beings.
Uh I understand the psychology of why people associate themselves with animals, essence of innocence and all that, but I I I think there has been a devaluation of uh well, I know there has been a Cavorkian.
Uh you had uh we're deciding on who lives in this country based on in the inconvenience their lives cost of the living, both when they're in the womb and when they become elderly.
And that can't happen unless and and we always well, we're doing it because they would want it this way.
They either wouldn't want to be born into poverty, and Mr. Snurdley, I'm not trying to get abortion call start.
Folks, let's not I'm just I'm just establishing my reasons here for uh for uh and trying to explain to me my literal incredulity uh at some of the comments in this sports illustrated story.
Sammy, thanks for the uh thanks for the uh uh phone call.
This is John in Atlanta.
Nice to have you, sir, on the EIB network.
Hey, Rush.
No, uh I know you're sitting there, you're saying we should not pass judgment against Michael Vick because nothing has been proven.
But I ask you the O. J. Simpson trial, nothing was proven.
He was not convicted.
Therefore, my question is do you think O.J. Simpson is a murderer, a killer.
Well, a lot of stuff was proven.
And the jury just said screw you.
It was a lot of stuff was proven in the O come on, folks.
No, I what are we doing proven, but he was a convicted.
A lot of stuff was proven in the O.J. case.
The jury just said, screw you, LA.
Jury nullification.
Find out what it like.
There's hardly any time.
There was a trial.
There was the presentation of evidence.
That hasn't happened in the Vic case.
You have to ask.
Yeah, I've read I didn't read all eighteen pages.
Well, go ahead and read that, and then you can go ahead and pass judgment against Michael Vick like already passed judgment.
I am I am I am trying to share with you my experiences.
I look d does the does the Duke Lacrosse case mean anything to you.
Absolutely.
There was no evidence.
There was no evidence whatsoever.
It was the point is that we you like you, you read the 18 page indictment, and he's guilty.
It done.
It's over with.
Law enforcement's never wrong.
Law enforcement would never ever try to convict somebody who didn't do anything.
Do you hear what Emmett Smith said about this?
Emmett Smith, the uh Hall of Fame running back, or soon to be Hall of Fame running back with the Dallas Cowboys.
He said, you know, I know how these guys work.
This, they're pressuring Vic to get the guys really behind this.
That's what that's what Emmett Smith did.
Emmett Smith, I know Emmett Smith, he's a smart guy.
And he thinks that the uh the the the best way the feds can get the people they really want here is to go after the high profile guy.
Now you have to say that's possible.
We know that this is how things actually work.
Get Vic to cop out to tell people uh in law enforcement what was really going on there, make him the target, make him the subject because he's high profile, pressure his life, his future is career for him to do uh unload the goods.
Anything's possible here is the point.
We just don't know enough yet.
Start concluding things.
All right, I I have checked the uh checked the email.
By the way, why am I the most dangerous man in America is because I'm right.
Uh I'm the most dangerous man in America to the left and to the Democrat Party.
All right, uh apparently, even though I am a highly trained broadcast specialist, and even though I am a master communicator, apparently some of you are misunderstanding what I'm saying here.
I got an email from a friend.
I thought you'd be all for yanking Vic from the team.
I know nothing's proven, but doesn't look like you'll be anything but guilty.
I'm not defending what Vic is alleged to have done.
And I'm not suggesting he shouldn't be thrown off.
The Falcons can do what they want.
The NFL can do what they he's an employee there.
They've got I'm not I'm not objecting to that at all.
I'm offering analogies, comparisons.
I remember now, I am reacting here to a couple of statements by people in the latest sports illustrated that this with the dogs is worse for Atlanta than the Chris Benoit thing where he killed his wife and son and then uh hanged himself.
And uh in the Ray Lewis situation where somebody died in a bar after midnight with a knife.
This is uh though those things are nothing compared to this, we've got people quoted as saying.
Uh put this in perspective, um I'm gonna try, it's probably just gonna infuriate some of you even more.
Uh I read it was just the other day, there was a there was a story about uh somebody got oh, somebody was shooting cats, stray cats with a BB gun.
And been charged with a felony.
In the in the meantime, the city, it was Indianapolis.
Yeah, this guy, as I said, his NFL career is over if he wants one.
He's shooting shooting cats with a BB gun.
Because he was they were bugging him.
City of youth uh of Indianapolis euthanized over 7,000 cats last year.
But they did it humanely, Rush.
They didn't show I know they did it humane.
Fine, okay, but we do this all the time.
I if you if you s if you sat down to uh dinner last night and I guarantee whatever you ate was probably electrocuted first.
Be it a chicken.
Uh I when I was a kid, one of the first field trips we had was to a slaughterhouse, and I will never forget the pigs being electrocuted behind the head, behind the ears, and then hoisted up and uh well, you've you know, being slaughtered.
But we're doing that for food, Rush.
We're doing that for food.
We weren't doing that for sport, but it still we do it in greater numbers than Vic ever did.
But these are dogs, Rush, these are pets.
I understand, I understand the psychology.
How many, how many Katrina, hurricane Katrina victims abandoned their pets while skedaddling out of town, those that could leave and did.
What do you think?
Should what what what what's what are we to think of those people and their uh attitudes and hearts?
Uh all I'm saying here, and I'm not defending what happened up there.
I'm just you'd understand.
For the sports illustrator to have a story with people thinking that that's far worse than instances where human beings die.
Uh I I sorry, that I note.
I notice I take note of it.
Here's Anna in Van Buren, Arkansas.
Nice to have you on the EIB network.
Hey Rush.
Hey.
Love you a lot.
Want to tell you that I really agree with the fact that you view this as a devaluation of human life.
It's a symptom, it absolutely is.
But what I want to do is kind of set you straight, and I want you perpetrating the myth about pits.
Um I'm a veterinary assistant and have been for many, many years.
I've owned a pit bull.
And do you know not one pit that I have ever encountered have I ever had a problem with?
It depends on their ownership.
I have when we have a pit come into the office, I'm overjoyed.
When we have a Chihuahua come in, I want to throw a muzzle on it.
Yeah, well, those are little ankle biting yappers.
I understand all of those things that they look like they're gonna die of a nervous breakdown.
The problem is though, we've been bitten by Chihuahuas, by Dachshunds, by Chows.
They have the very same temperament as pit bulls, which is territorial and aggressive.
All right, all right.
I know where you're headed.
So you're you're gonna say the pit bull becomes what it becomes because of the owners.
Well, all dogs do.
All dogs do.
Every single one of them.
And I just I understand why people are afraid of 'em.
They're big, they're powerful, and without being socialized and properly cared for, they are dangerous.
Just like Rottweilers or Children's.
Oh yeah.
But if the Chihuahua is the size of a pit bull, my God.
We mean deep trouble.
So what I'm saying is that the personality of the dog depends on the owner.
Most of the time the the pit bulls we have that we know are gonna turn out bad are because their owners are usually I understand what you're saying.
You're right.
I I did sort of indict the breed.
Uh there's no question.
Is it close to a predator as you can get?
I just have never I've never seen uh well Doberman's look I don't want to uh let's let's let's I I don't I don't want to spend all day with uh uh people calling defending their breeds, their favorite breeds.
I know you love your dogs.
I love my cat.
I've had dogs, I understand all this.
I'm trying to keep this focused.
And apparently it uh I'm the only one that uh thinks this is any big deal.
Apparently every call has been arguing with me about this.
Here's uh here's what is this Ram in Los Angeles.
Ram, you're next on the EIB network.
Hello.
Hi, Rush Pleasure to be with you.
Uh can you hear me okay?
Yeah, I hear you just fine, Ram.
Okay, great.
Uh I think the humans have a greater connection to animals because animals don't have the ability to ponder over consequence.
They don't have a choice, you know.
Once they're trained, it's due.
They don't have the ability to stand back and defend themselves.
They can't take a gun and shoot the human to dead.
But a human has the ability to choose.
They have the ability to figure out what is consequence.
Uh what what's your belief on that?
What are you saying here, Ram?
Uh uh that it that that uh it's worse to kill these dogs because they have no defense.
There's no choice.
They they have no choice.
Like Chris Benoit's son could have resisted the pills that his dad gave him and uh not strangled him, and then he could have run out of the house and and Chris Benoit's wife uh somehow could have escaped and she wanted to.
But the dogs can't do that.
That's that's true.
You're you're absolutely you're absolutely right.
But Chris Benoit also had the choice not to kill his wife and son.
He has that choice.
He he doesn't have to kill uh that his wife and his child.
I think he's Well, I know, but and Michael Vick had the choice not to do what he did to these dogs, but the difference you're saying is the dogs had no choice in avoiding it, but Benoit's kid and wife might have had a choice in avoiding it, but failed.
And so killing the dogs is worse because they sat there and let themselves be killed.
They had a choice.
That's what you're saying.
They didn't they did not have a choice.
The animals did not have a choice.
Oh, but but did you think Benoit's wife and son had a choice?
To to get away, yes, I think to get away if they saw a sign.
And why did they sit there and allow themselves to be killed?
Uh they probably were under some kind of uh uh as you said, a drug.
Well, yeah, I don't I've read the toxicology.
The kid had Xanax, which is ten times as powerful as Valium.
Yeah.
Uh and and the wife had a lot of stuff too, but but they had a choice not to take that stuff.
Yeah, well, maybe it was forced down their throats.
You never know.
I mean, it could have he could have drugged them and could have hurt them in some other way, you know, impacted their mental uh capacity.
Thank you.
Fascinating.
Fast if Ram, thanks.
Uh thanks for the phone call.
Fascinating.
Ram just uh just hung up out there.
Uh Bayside New York, this is Vinny.
Vinny, uh, welcome to the program, sir.
Maha Roshi's Great to be talking to you again.
Nice to have you back here, Vinny.
Listen, I think conservatives are easily as outraged about this as liberals.
That's number one.
Uh number two, it's not surprising.
This is a visceral reaction from who's turning this into a partisan issue.
No, no, I'm I'm I'm not.
I mean, uh, you had mentioned something about how liberal uh sports illustrated was and the uh you know the sports media in general, and I agree with that.
I'm just stating as a conservative and and I am an ultra conservative, I am I am above outrage.
I want to see Michael Vit Michael Vick, if he's guilty.
I want to see him get the full extent of the law.
You know, apply to him number one, number two.
Um, I don't necessarily see this as a devaluation of human life.
I think you're reading just too much into this.
I think one thing is one thing and this is another.
Uh this recalls that case out in California a few years ago or um where a man had a uh highway altercation with a woman and he took her little shih tzu or whatever it was and threw it into oncoming traffic and the dog got killed.
Do you remember that?
Uh no.
Well, it caused uh nationwide outrage.
I mean, it was on every uh major news program, and people were just so outraged because of the bigger.
I must have been on vacation when that happened, because I don't I don't remember the actually actually threw a shihtsu in the uh in the oncoming traffic.
Well, I don't know if the dog was a shih tzu, it's a little tiny.
Well then why did you say it was a shih tzu?
Because look at what look what my whole part my my whole point is.
That's just that.
Absolutely not, sir.
I uh I leave all the uh good lines for you.
I'm here to make the host look good.
Right.
But uh you have, unwittingly.
And as as far as what the people in Atlanta are saying about this is worse than Ben Warren said, it's not just an error of judgment.
But that's the that's what happens when you have a visceral reaction.
You say things and that you think about later and you realize, hey, you know, that was really quite silly of me to say, but look, people associate their pets as human beings practically.
This is not weird to me what we're seeing about this.
This was cruel, wanton evil.
I agree it's cruel.
But these people in Atlanta are acting like the degree to dre degree of cruelty here uh uh dwarfs the uh degree of cruelty in the uh in the other circumstances.
Uh okay.
Uh look, Vinny, I have to run here.
EIB obscene profit center timeout, but I'm glad you called.
Thanks so much.
Uh we will be back and continue here in just a second.
Okay.
I was hoping I wasn't going to have to do this.
But it is clear to me, ladies and gentlemen.
I think also what's happening, probably many of you out there who understand precisely what I'm saying, and that's why you're not calling.
Those who are up in arms over what I'm saying or don't agree, those are the ones uh who are.
All right, so let me let me fire with dead aim right between your eyes.
Okay.
What if I were to say to you, those are Michael Vick's dogs?
And that was his property.
And whatever he wants to do with them is his choice.
Is his right.
Don't we have politicians telling us that women can do that with their babies in the womb?
Where's the outrage over that?
Well, we don't see it.
When you do, though, if you ever see a picture of one of these late-term abortions, then you'll be as mad.
But I mean, on the one hand, this is all I mean about devaluing life.
We can sit there and casually talk about how liberated we are.
One point three million abortions a year, eleven pit bulls.
We hear about how they die.
And note the pro-aborts do not want you to know any details about how abortions take place.
They don't want you to see it.
They don't want you to know it because they know what your reaction would be.
Still we know that they take place.
But that comes under the rubric of women's rights and liberation and so forth.
It's uh in fact, this is one of the most sickening things about the Feminazis to me is that they've been selling abortions since 1973 as an act of liberation for women.
That's the thing.
It's always it's always made sickened me about it.
But here we have eleven dogs, pit bulls, uh he's wa.
Massive outrage.
Now I got I understand the psychological attachment.
Uh but is there can you see any difference here at all?
Any any find anything peculiar about the lack of outrage on the one hand and the total national outrage here over the dog thing on the other.
Uh also got a note, a friend of mine said, the Chris Benoit thing, the reason why this Vic thing is being thought of as worse uh than the than the dog then the Chris Benoit thing is because Chris Benoit also killed himself.
Everybody in that situation died.
If he were still alive after having murdered his wife and daughter, then there would be profound outright.
That that may be true.
There may be some uh some validity uh to uh to that.
Here's uh here's Gary in uh what is that?
File, Idaho?
File, Idaho.
Nice to have you, Gary.
Thank you for taking my call, sir.
Yes.
Uh, just uh as you were reading the details of the story, it occurred to me that if you left the name out, and uh uh the the details are the same as what Saddam Hussein did.
People have compassion on murder, torture, electrocution on Saddam Hussein did to countless victims that were human, but we have to uh hang Michael Vick for his dog victims.
Yeah, well, you can you can you can play this any number of ways.
That's uh that's that's you you can you could also talk about how outraged uh people uh got over torture uh committed by American troops at Abu Ghrab and uh the alleged torture at Club Gitmo, where nobody died.
Uh and but yet there's it all I'm saying is there's so many inconsistencies here in the uh in the the degree of outrage and and uh you hey, you want another dog story?
Because I'm gonna move on after this.
I'm gonna move on.
I'm gonna get out of here and I'm gonna I'm gonna head on down to other stuff.
I mean, I'll give you an example.
New York cab drivers threaten strike over GPS systems.
Well, uh trade body representing more than 8,000 New York taxi drivers threatening to call a strike over the city's plans to introduce satellite positioning systems in every cab.
Well now there's some things we don't need to say here, right, to understand why these people might be mad.
Um we could rename the program, track your local Muslim.
I track your local uh immigrant.
That's why they that's why they're upset about it.
We'll be doing uh something the underdog imperative, Winter Lewis, kids should not be shielded from competition.
We've talked about that a lot.
Uh we got immigration news, all kinds of fireworks occurred in the uh in the Senate yesterday, and Lindsay Gramnesty is uh now getting shellacked by Ted Kennedy.
Ted Kennedy not happy.
But here's here's dog story.
Uh Black Labrador that burrowed through smoking debris after September 11th and flooded rubble after Hurricane Katrina in search of survivors has died of cancer.
Uh owner Mary Flood uh had 12-year-old Jake put to sleep Wednesday after a last stroll through the fields and a dip in the creek near their home in Oakley, Utah.
Flood said that Jake had been in pain, shaking with a 105-degree fever as he lay on the lawn.
No one can say whether the dog would have gotten sick uh if he hadn't been exposed to the toxic air at the World Trade Center, but cancer in dogs uh that's Jake's age uh quite quite common.
It was uh twelve years old.
But it's sad store.
See, I mean it's a horribly sad story.
We all just ooh hero rescued dog.
Uh you want to feel better about it, because it's Bush's fault.
Back in a sec.
I tell you, here's here's how we're gonna wrap this up, folks.
We're just from now on, we're gonna change the whole concept of innocent until proven guilty to guilty until proven indicted.
There's no more innocent until proven guilty.
There's guilty until proven indicted.
Uh by the way, Michael Nyphong, disgraced former prosecutor, acknowledged today that there is no credible evidence that three Duke Lacrosse players committed any of the crimes he accused them of more than a year ago.
We all need to heal, Nyphong said.
It's my hope we can start this process today.
His apology came as a judge began considering whether to hold him in criminal contempt of court for his handling of the case.
Of course, these guys, these local guys, differ from the feds, and I understand that, is it?
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