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April 24, 2007 - Rush Limbaugh Program
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April 24, 2007, Tuesday, Hour #1
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Welcome to today's edition of the Rush 24-7 podcast.
Well, thank you, Johnny Donovan.
I know it's always a drag when Rush isn't here, but he gave you a heads up.
And I'm happy to be here with you, knowing that I believe Rush should be back in the chair tomorrow.
I'm not in his chair this time.
I'm in my own chair, as Johnny Donovan mentions.
I'm here in the Golden Tower of the Fisher Building at WJR Radio, coming to you from the Midwest campus of the Limbaugh Institute for Advanced Conservative Studies, where there is never a final exam, but we are tested every day.
Paul W. from Detroit, Michigan.
Motown, the Motor City, home of the growing life sciences corridor, and the largest supply of fresh water in the world.
Just as a note.
Our executive producer, Cookie Gleason, Chief of Staff HR Kit Carson, Engineer Mike Maymone, and you, the best-informed radio audience in the country listening in on this, your favorite radio station.
Couple of news notes that you may have picked up on by now.
Maybe you haven't.
Let me point them out to you or go through them very quickly.
There is that report out now that says sales of existing homes plunged last month by the largest amount in 18 years.
A real estate trade group blaming the drop on bad weather and problems in the subprime mortgage market, or at least that's what they hope it is at this point.
Consumer confidence numbers reported down with the impact of rising gas prices, getting much of the blame.
In Michigan, we've had our problems.
While the rest of the country was doing very well and booming, we had our own little problem, recession, depression, call it what you will.
But there are people who have been trying to sell their houses in Michigan for a few years.
There's concern people won't get even close to what they paid for their house.
And it appears that this is starting to be looked at as a possibility across the country.
So one wonders what we have in store.
We didn't enjoy, and certainly the mainstream media, institutional media, didn't make a big enough deal out of the economy when things were going very well.
As things start to go south, we're going to hear lots and lots about that.
So you might want to tie yourself to trees.
No big surprise here when we hear that China is about to surpass the U.S. as the world's top emitter of greenhouse gases this year.
And the only surprise for some, the scientists who keep track of this sort of thing, is that it's happening now rather than they thought maybe about 2010.
I thought it happened already because having been to China a couple of times, and I think I may have mentioned this to you before when sitting in for Rush, it's so dirty there, you can't even imagine it.
You can't, when I tell you it's dirty or somebody who goes there tells you it's dirty, you think you know what they're talking about.
When I tell you you can be down across a street and not see the tops of buildings, not because it's fog, but because it's smog and pollution, you might start to get the idea of how dirty it is there.
People were cooking alongside of the road with coal.
And you know what coal can do and what it has done.
And now Beijing has refused to put any limits on their greenhouse gas emissions.
And that will allow them to increase nearly unchecked.
And do you know what that will do?
It will affect us.
It will erase any gains made elsewhere in the world where people are sacrificing because they believe this is a major problem.
Look, I know how Rush feels pretty much about this.
I think I know how a lot of people think and feel about this.
I'm kind of in the middle on this.
There's no question in my mind that we, man, affect this earth.
And what we do and how we advance and grow affects the environment, affects this earth.
And some of it isn't such a great effect.
Some of it's a much better effect.
I am not in the school of shutting everything down, but I'm also not in the school of saying nothing's happening.
Something's happening.
We're having an effect.
Schools out on what that is, what it means.
I don't think that it means that we have to follow what Cheryl Crowe wants us to do.
Cheryl Crowe and her efforts to protect us all from global warming one toilet tissue square at a time.
I don't think that's what we have to do.
I have to tell you, it's the first time I've ever really, or at least lately, laughed out loud, was Rosie O'Donnell on The View pointing out her problem with Cheryl Crowe's efforts to, in fact, protect us all from global warming, one toilet tissue square at a time, when she screamed out, Cheryl, have you seen the size of my Derrier?
Although she didn't say Derrier, as you probably know by now.
And though she is excellent at pointing out the obvious, Rosie had a good point there.
And I think many people are poo-pooing Cheryl Crowe's idea.
But there are lots of them out there, and they're going to be stuffed in our face.
I've got to watch out which whole line of way I say this.
Let's just say that there will be more great ideas like that one coming our way.
There are some good ones.
Why not change light bulbs if it's cheaper and better for the environment, if it costs you less money?
Why not find fuels that make it easier for us to not depend on countries that hate us and want us dead and that happen to maybe be better for the environment, although we maybe haven't found that yet, since there are some concerns about different kinds of pollution from ethanol and different concerns about the cost of crops from using them for ethanol, and then having problems in third world countries where they can't get enough food,
but will have plenty of gas and ethanol.
All kinds of things to be concerned about.
Of course, here in the motor city, it can't go without saying, and it should be noted, as it has been across the country today, that Toyota is now the world's number one auto seller.
That's for one quarter so far, the company saying it sold more vehicles than General Motors in this first quarter of 2007.
That's the first time ever, ever, ever, ever.
Toyota sold more than 2.3 million vehicles worldwide between January and March, while GM sold 2.2 million.
While the figures represent only quarterly sales results, they do foreshadow a tough challenge for GM as it fights to hold on to its title as world's top automaker.
That claim is staked on annual production figures.
Toyota obviously has a leg up right now.
They're the world's number two automaker.
They say they're going to produce more vehicles this year.
GM says they're going to produce fewer vehicles this year.
And Toyota's been gaining on number one GM for some time, and it's only a matter of time before it eclipses the Detroit rival, the American rival, General Motors.
And that time looks like it might be here right now.
Rick Wagner's been on this program with us when I set in for Rush Schlimbaugh before, the head of General Motors.
And we invited Jim Press to come by today, the head of Toyota, an American, first one put on their board in Japan, the most powerful American in that company's hierarchy.
Jim Press is a great guy, a wonderful guy, and he's not available today.
And one reason, although this is not the reason given, one reason is they're not going to rub it in anyone's face.
They're just going to keep looking ahead and trying to produce cars that you and I want, cars that you and I will buy.
And they also don't want a backlash anywhere because they're beating General Motors.
And I don't think there'll be a backlash.
Maybe there'll be an opportunity for us to produce even better cars.
They're very, very good right now.
More cars that you want.
You've heard this before.
Have you noticed how many times news stories come out and they get recycled and they come back out again and again and again?
Here's another one, but it's such a good one.
I want to pass it along again.
Eating dark chocolate's good for you.
You've heard that before.
There's nothing new there, but at least in this latest study in the Archives of Internal Medicine, the April 19th issue, eating dark chocolate may be almost as effective at lowering blood pressure as taking the most common anti-hypertensive drugs.
The analysis included four studies of black tea, one of green tea, and five of dark chocolate.
Four of the five studies on chocolate found reduced blood pressure after eating.
None of the tea studies showed significant benefit.
The magnitude of the effect of eating three and a half ounces of dark chocolate a day was clinically significant, comparable to that of the beta blockers you're taking.
Don't stop taking them and eating dark chocolate without talking to your doctor first.
Now, they put this report together saying, look, these were short studies.
The results may not apply to habitual use.
But it is dark chocolate, by the way.
Milk chocolate doesn't have the same effect.
So start to learn to enjoy dark chocolate next time around.
Russia's saying farewell to Boris Yeltsin.
Ceremonies filled with symbols that reflect the changes that transformed the nation during his eight years as president.
He went in with a bang and kind of came out with a bang, only one was a positive bang, one was a negative bang, dead at 76.
David Halberstam is dead, and that was shocking news to anyone who ever had the opportunity to speak with him, to know him, to interview him, and the wonderful job he did with his writing.
He was just 73, involved in an automobile accident.
He quit journalism as a reporter in 1967 and wrote 21 incredible books, including The Best and the Brightest, which you should pick up today if you have not and read it.
And if you have, read it again.
We are going to be talking a little bit later about some issues with a guy that we like very, very much.
And in fact, he's been on before when I've been sitting in, Frank J. Gaffney Jr.
We'll talk a little bit about his film that PBS won't allow us to see, at least right now, Islam versus Islamists, Voices from the Muslim Center.
We'll talk to Frank about that coming up in just a little bit.
And interestingly enough, we find that today is the day in 2007 when the median income of women finally catches up to the 2006 median income of men.
That means where we have a 12-month year, our 2006 ended, it's just now ending for women.
They have a 16-month year to make what we make in a year.
What's that all about?
Well, we're going to talk about that with a woman who has made a lifetime out of helping women with their money.
Susie Orman is going to check in with us.
She's got some interesting thoughts about this, a brand new book.
And this is a woman who used to live in her car and now has worked her way to great success helping all of us, but specifically keying in on women and their money.
In fact, she's up next here.
This is the Rush Limbaugh Program.
I'm Paul W. Smith.
All righty, as we continue here, the Rush Limbaugh Program.
I'm Paul W. Smith.
Rush should be back in the chair tomorrow.
You can go to rushlimbaugh.com or call 1-800-282-2882.
No matter what we're talking about, you're always welcome to join in the conversation.
And you may want to join in the conversation regarding this, women and money, and what may be something that still continues to be very, very unfair or not.
Being conservative, that's all about giving everyone a fair chance, a fair opportunity to take advantage of their advantages and not hold certain things against them, whether it be their race, their color, their creed, their sex.
We have the story out today.
You've probably heard it by now, that this is the day where in 2007, today, women finally have caught up with what men made in 2006.
They just had to work four extra months to do it.
And a study out from the American Association of University Women Educational Foundation, women earning 69% of what men do 10 years after leaving college.
One quarter of that gap, 31% in pay difference.
They can't figure out what it's from.
Even after controlling for hours, occupations, parenthood, and other factors known to affect earnings, there's that 31% in pay difference that is chalked up at this point, likely due to sex discrimination.
That's about 8 cents on the dollar.
A woman who's been helping women, all of us, really, but women specifically, with their money, has a brand new book out called Women and Money, Owning the Power to Control Your Own Destiny.
And I spoke with Susie Orman about this book not long ago and thought, this is a book that lots of people need to know about and can take advantage of.
And I thought that today kind of tied in nicely with your book and what you're trying to do, Susie.
Welcome to the Rush Limbaugh Program.
Oh, it's so nice to talk to you again, Paul W.
It's so nice to talk with you, Susie.
And I immediately thought when I heard what was going on here with this gap again, I thought of you.
And I'm wondering, because you have pointed out in the book, Women and Money, that women do have to take some responsibility for their current lot.
Yeah, it's true.
It's, you know, in the book, I make an argument that even though women are making more, we're still not making more out of what we make.
So we're not only not making more out of the money that we're earning, we are not being as aggressive.
We are not being as firm.
We are not going in there and being as good as a negotiator as we have the ability to be when it comes to the wages that we are paid.
We settle, we settle what we do with money, and we settle what we get paid.
We put ourselves on sale, and it is just that easy.
Is it then, then part of the gap sounds like it would be because corporations, they're not discriminating against women, but they're from a business angle saying, I guess, if we can get labor at a cheaper price, why not?
And if women are more apt to accept lesser pay for the same job, then the corporations are using that to their advantage.
Again, there's no way for me to know for sure, are corporations discriminating or not?
Chances are they probably are on some level.
But we as women have got to take responsibility for letting them discriminate against us.
When you run a business, you want to make sure that you're making money not only for yourself.
If you're a public traded company, you want to make sure that you're making money for your shareholders.
How do you do that?
By making sure that you have profit margins, that you don't pay more when you can pay less.
And if somebody is willing to take a job for less money and do even better work for it, that's a wise decision when you look at it from a business perspective.
Is it a wise decision as far as a personal decision for a woman to do?
No, it's not.
But if she allows that to happen, if she doesn't ask for more, if she doesn't ask for what is a man getting paid for this exact same position, if she doesn't ask those questions, if she's not as aggressive as she should be, I hate to say it.
We have nobody to blame but ourselves.
So it's a matter of women allowing inferior pay for superior work to happen.
That maybe they think that if they don't take that job or keep that job, some other woman would be more than happy to take it for lesser pay?
Possibly.
Now, is it, again, easy?
I keep using this word easy.
Is it easy to turn down a job when you really need money?
No.
Is it easy to say, you are going to pay me this, or I'm walking out the door?
No.
But is it right to do that?
It absolutely is, because if we are going to rewrite the story that history has handed us, the story always being, we're paid less, we're not valued as much.
You could get more out of us for less money.
If we're going to rewrite that story, we're the ones who have to start to do it, and we have to do it now.
Again, it's not easy.
It's not simple, but it's right, and we have to start doing it.
Well, I'm wondering how you fight through that.
What suggestions, Susie Orman, you might offer very specifically for women to fight through that.
This is all great.
What you're saying is absolutely correct, but you're also saying, as you did a moment ago, it's not easy to walk away from a job.
We need our jobs.
You need your jobs, and that's why it's important that you always put yourself in a financial situation where hopefully you don't have credit card debt.
You do have eight months of an emergency fund.
You do have knowledge over the money that you have.
So whenever you need to leave so that you can value yourself, you have the ability to do so financially speaking.
There's a woman in Northern California, I'm sure she'd be more than happy to come on the program where she was in this exact same position.
She was hired.
She was hired for under what she was worth.
We then worked with her in terms of she read the chapter in the book, You Are Not on Sale.
She came to a program that I had given for the PBS special that I did.
And she went into her boss's office and she said she wanted a raise.
He came back and said, okay, we'll give you a little raise.
Now, she should, normally she would have said, I want to know the rest of the story.
So I want you to stand by.
We have to take a break.
You got it.
And we will get the rest of that story.
We'll also talk about how, at least in my opinion, single men were discriminated against in the workplace.
Married men got bigger raises.
And we want to hear from you at 1-800-282-2882.
You speak directly with Susie Ortman.
1-800-282-2882 on the Rush Limbaugh program.
I'm Paul W. Smith.
Thank you, Johnny Donovan.
You can reach us at 1-800-282-2882.
1-800-282-2882.
And also rushlimbaugh.com.
We're talking about Equal Pay Day.
Wait a minute.
If today is Equal Pay Day, boy, am I in the right job.
Hmm.
We'll have to take that up with the team a little later, I guess.
Women and money, owning the power to control your own destiny.
What does Susie Ormond feel about this?
A woman who lived in a car.
She lived in her car.
But she has turned all of that around with her books, her television work.
She's done a great job, and she's here helping us out.
And she was in the middle of a story, Susie, about the woman who went in and said, I deserve more money for this job.
And the boss said, okay, well, we'll give you a little raise.
And her name is Karen, and she was very grateful that her boss was going to give her a little raise, but she deserved more.
She then asked for more.
She not only asked for more money, she said she wanted stock options.
He goes back again.
He comes back and says, I'll give you a 5% raise plus stock options.
That's far more than we normally would have given you.
Once again, she says, I'm sorry, but I deserve more.
I have done this.
I have done that.
She was very calm about it.
She was very firm about it.
She wasn't emotional.
She wasn't hysterical.
She had conviction because she knew her own worth.
In the very end, she got an 8% raise, more stock options.
And here's the clincher.
When all this was over, her boss came back to her and said in all the years he had been doing this, and it's a major corporation, he had never had a woman come in with such power in such an unemotional way and ask for what she deserves with such a way that he had no choice but to give it to her.
Well, there's a huge lesson for us all.
You know, in all areas of our business life and our personal life.
Yeah, she was willing to leave, however, because she wasn't going to put herself on sale anymore.
She knew her worth.
She had the ability financially.
She didn't have a lot of money, but she had enough to go, and she was not going to stay somewhere where she was undervalued.
Good for her.
I want to get to some callers here.
1-800-282-2882, a unique opportunity to speak with Susie Orman.
Her latest book is Women and Money, Owning the Power to Control Your Own Destiny.
You also have a plan in that book on it's called the Save Yourself Plan, if I remember.
Yeah, I love that Save Yourself Plan and everybody.
And just because Rush isn't here today, we'll give it to you all as a gift.
You all go to saveyourself.com.
You put in the password 701.
All of you can open up.
We're going to pay you to save.
Let's change the savings rate of the United States of America.
You put $50 in every month into a money market account, money market deposit account with TD Ameritrade, 12 months.
In the 13th month, you will be given $100.
So all I'm asking you is...
No other gimmicks, no other strings attached.
I just...
That's it?
That's it.
So here's what we're doing.
In the book, I do have what's called the Save Yourself Plan.
I'm asking you to give me one day a month for five consecutive months.
If you do so, the subtitle of the book, Own the Power to Control Your Destiny, will become true.
But every single woman needs a savings account she can call her own.
And as well, not just women, men too.
The reason Karen, my friend, was able to tell her boss, I'm leaving, is because she had money in savings.
Women, we don't have that.
So therefore, TD Ameritrade has stepped up to the plate to help save the savings rate of the United States of America.
I'm not paid from them.
This is no endorsement to you.
It sounds like a commercial for them, but it is.
I know that honest to God, I'm not making one penny.
Even if they buy books to give to their employees, which they did, I don't make a penny of royalty on those books.
All I've asked them to do, which they did, was if anybody wanted to open up a savings account, it's called the Save Yourself account, if they deposited at least $50 a month every single month for 12 consecutive months, could the money be FDIC insured?
Could you pay them about a 4.6% interest rate?
Could you charge them no fees, no commissions on that Save Yourself account?
And in the 13th month, would you give them $100?
And they said yes.
And tens of thousands of people have already done it.
So we're starting to change the savings rate.
Excellent.
Good job, Susie Orman.
Quick note, because I mentioned something before the break.
Then I want to get to our callers at 1-800-282-2882, the Rush Limbaugh program.
I'm Paul W. Smith, InfoRush, Susie Orman, our guest.
And that is, I remember as a single man being discriminated against and being told, this is years ago, but by management, well, he's married.
We have to pay him more.
Well, you know, but how many years ago now are we talking about?
I want you to think about it.
How many years ago was that?
Do you see?
Today, 51% of all women are living alone.
Today, many women are making more than their male counterparts.
Today, it is the norm in many situations for a man to be the stay-at-home dad.
Kristen, who works for me at times, her husband is the stay-at-home father.
Mary, who works for a corporation, her husband, Al, is the stay-at-home father.
I guess I just wanted, I wanted it to be clear, because I know there are other men out there that had heard that over the years, that it isn't just women or hasn't just been women who might feel that they were being discriminated against because of the job experience, the hours, the occupations, the parenthood, the other factors that are known to affect earnings.
It has gone both ways.
Obviously, it has to end, and we're working toward that.
But as you're saying, people have to take some personal responsibility.
Let me get to some callers before we run out of time in this break.
Marie is in Rockland County, New York.
You're on the Rush Limbaugh program.
I'm Paul W., and this is Susie Orman.
Marie.
Hi.
I could tell you that as a woman, I am, or I have earned as much as men.
I'm now self-employed and earning probably a lot more than most people.
My secret, I got an education.
I did it in the science field.
Despite being intimidated by the fact that there were only men around me, I still majored in science because I enjoyed science.
I wasn't going to be afraid of it.
And I went ahead and did it.
I have graduate degrees in chemistry.
I took opportunities afterwards.
I was not afraid to get up and move someplace.
If I had to move and get an apartment in a different city, I did it.
And if I had to, within a job, sidestep and move to another opportunity because I saw I wasn't getting anywhere, I did that.
I wasn't going to be afraid to move.
I wasn't afraid to take an assignment that was a little off what I did.
Because of that, I was able to get different opportunities with the whole breadth of experience that I was getting.
And I started more gaining respect, speaking up.
I got money.
I got stuck up.
You're doing what Susie Orman is saying.
You did naturally what Susie Orman is suggesting now has to be done.
And I'm 58 now.
I retired three years ago, a millionaire.
And I am self-employed.
Marie, but I just have to say this to you, you know, because I've been listening to you and I'm loving what you're saying, girlfriend.
Do you know how many times, though, that you have just used the word that you weren't afraid?
You were talking to us, and maybe in a two-month-minute period of time, you used the word afraid about 10 times.
That you weren't afraid.
Most women are.
Yes, but that's the key.
Are women afraid to speak up?
Are women afraid to value themselves?
Are they afraid they will hurt somebody else's feelings?
And you said that it took you years, it was hard, but that you did it.
Now, isn't it true that one of the reasons you were able to do that is because you didn't have credit card debt.
You did have control over your money.
You had a side pool of an emergency fund, like a Save Yourself account, so that if you had to leave, you would be okay.
All of which I generated myself.
Yes, but that's the point.
I'm not saying women can't do this.
I believe, listen, most women graduate today with higher grade point averages than men.
In your area, in engineering, women, that's the one area that when women graduate, they're actually being paid more than a man the first year out, according to the study that Paul has been citing.
But 10 years into it, they're being paid close to 10% less.
10 years into it, I was being paid probably 10% more.
But because you weren't afraid to ask for it, is that correct?
See, but the thing is here, you guys don't, you're not thinking about this, but these stories generally are brought out to make men feel guilty and to make women feel they've been taken advantage of and put down by big business.
And what we're hearing here, at least from Marie's standpoint, is that's not at all the case.
No, I worked with only men for a lot of the departments I worked in were all male.
Yeah, Paul, men are great.
This isn't about men.
Men didn't do this to us.
Would you agree, Marie?
Absolutely.
Would you agree that the women that you know, your other friends that are in possibly similar situations as you, maybe in the same field, that they didn't get paid as much because they didn't go for it themselves?
That is true.
And a lot of friends of mine went into more classic fields of either teaching or other fields that are classically women's fields because they were afraid to go into the sciences.
They felt they would have to compete directly with men.
It's a self-imposed fear.
I was determined to go into a field that I thoroughly enjoyed, and I would be better at, obviously, because it is a field that I thoroughly enjoy.
And then that would mean that neither one of you would be at the Equal Pay Day Rally in Washington, D.C. today.
No way.
They're going up to the U.S. Capitol building, West Lawn, and they want to hear from members of Congress who will pander to them, who are supporting legislation to address the continuing wage gap.
Here's what I really think would change a lot.
I really would love to see, I know this is never going to happen.
I know I am dreaming here.
But I would love to see corporations have to post what they are paying every position.
I would like it not to have to be secretive, where you sign a confidentiality agreement that you're never going to tell anybody what you are making because it is that very confidentiality agreement, that exact agreement, that allows somebody to get paid more than somebody else.
Listen, I don't care if it was a woman being paid more for a position than a man or a man being paid more of a position as a woman.
If it's the exact same position with the exact same qualifications, you should have the same pay for that.
Hey, Marie, enjoy being a self-made millionaire.
Enjoy your retirement years.
We'll come back with Susie Orman back to your calls at 1-800-282-2882, the Rush Limbaugh Program.
I'm Paul W. Smith.
I'm just going to guess that that isn't the piano playing cat currently on the internet, that music.
Unless it's a new release by the cat.
I'm not sure.
Susie Orman is with us.
Her latest book is Women and Money, Owning the Power to Control Your Own Destiny.
You have this unique opportunity to speak directly with Susie here on the Rush Limbaugh program, 1-800-282-2882.
You can go to rushlimbaugh.com.
In fact, that's where you should check in on a regular basis because there's always lots of good stuff there.
And the team that works on the webpage, the top team in the world, in the industry, and there's lots to find there, including communicating here.
As we're communicating with Susie Orman and Debbie in Olympia, Washington.
Debbie, Paul W. here, In for Rush.
Oh, hello.
From the other end of the spectrum, from your last caller's point of view, I am a waitress in Olympia, Washington.
I work at a very nice seafood restaurant and wait on a lot of legislators.
I waited on a few governors, and I'm very nervous.
Sorry, I'm a first-time caller.
Well, welcome, and don't be nervous.
We're all friends here.
I know.
And that's nothing to worry about.
I'm a huge listener.
I listen to this show every day.
So do I. Try to, at least.
Yeah.
Well, I just wanted to point out, and I argue about this all the time with my male waiters, they just get better tips.
They will get the big bonus tips daily.
You know, people will give them 30%, sometimes more.
And really, I think that's a good idea.
It's a perception.
It's a perception problem, Debbie.
People look at men when they're in those positions and think, now there's a professional waiter.
Unfortunately, they look at women in those positions and say, I wonder what else she does or what else she wants to do.
Yeah.
Well, I'm very grateful for my job.
I do pretty good, and I'm married and a mom, and it's been very good to me to have those hours, and the money I make is good.
But it's always, it kind of bothers me to see how people perceive men as, I don't know, they need the money more than I do.
It's a hard one.
Susie, I'd love to hear what you have to say to Debbie because thinking about that, and I'm thinking about how when I sit in a restaurant, do I feel different for a male waiter versus a female waiter who waits on me?
And I'm at what I'm really looking for, truthfully, Debbie, is the service.
And sometimes I actually give women waiters more of a tip than a male waiter, especially if I know that she is a mother, if she is a sole support of herself.
I really go out of my way.
So I'm just wondering, what is the perception that you give to the people that you wait on to kind of encourage them not to give you as much money as they should be giving?
Do you know what I'm saying?
What can you do, Debbie, to change that?
And rather than just saying that this is what other people do to me, where can we gain our power and say, what can I do to get people to pay me more to wait on them?
Well, like I pointed out, I do pretty well.
I usually make 20%, and I do get the bonus tips once in a while, but the men consistently, almost daily, get these, you know, the big bonus tips.
You don't see anything that they do differently than you do?
No, I'm very experienced.
I've been working at my restaurant for 15 years.
I've been waiting on tables for 25 years, and my service is excellent.
I mean, I have a bad day once in a while, but generally I'm very good.
And like I said, I do make, you know, they do give me a good tip, 20%, and I'm very grateful for that, but I don't get like, you know, the 30% tips like these male waiters get all the time.
And I just, you know, it just kind of bothers me.
They think it's because of them personally and their service.
And I said, no, it's because people see you, you know, they think you might have a bunch of kids and you're the father supporting your family when in reality, most of them are single guys that are just kind of partying up their money.
Well, you've given all of us something to think about, Susie Orman from her professional standpoint, and the rest of us, when we go to restaurants, paying attention to how we tip folks.
We have a tendency in our household to tip at least 20% and especially tip higher if the service is really good, whether it's a man or a woman.
But it's hard, too, to not tip at all when sometimes the wait person doesn't deserve a tip.
We still feel like we have to give a tip.
But be that as it may, we're going to wrap it up with Susie Orman, and I hope we can get to Cindy in Tampa, Florida with a final thought.
We continue on the Rush Limbaugh Program.
I'm Paul W. Smith.
Cindy in Tampa, Florida, basically summing it up.
We have to educate our daughters early on, Susie Ormond, so they don't fall into these same traps.
We do, but how do you educate your daughter?
You don't educate your daughter by words.
You educate your daughter by examples, which is why, Paul, probably this new book, Women and Money, is the most important book I have ever written in my life.
Life, it is changing how women think, act, and feel about money.
And when we change ourselves, we change how other people treat us.
And what I've seen from the book, I will have to agree with you, Susie, and that's saying a lot because you've done a lot of very good work in television, in your books, in videos.
And heck, you even have investment cruises coming up.
There's a lot going on in Susie Ormond's life.
Thanks for joining us, Susie.
Women and Money: Owning the Power to Control Your Own Destiny.
All right.
Coming up, Frank Gaffney.
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