Welcome to today's edition of the Rush 247 podcast.
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Welcome.
All you conversationalists across the Fruit of Plains, as Rush would say.
Good uh good day to have you here on Friday the 13th.
And it is Friday the 13th.
It is openline Friday, of course, so you get to uh pick the topics.
But just in case you are uh starstruck today and you don't know what to say, I have picked a few of them for you.
Let's see what topic could we possibly talk about in talk radio today.
Corn futures?
Possibly.
I mean, is there anything I I this is one of those stories.
Welcome to the program, uh Rush Out Today.
He'll be back on Monday, and so, and not only is Rush out, but something strange has happened.
So is Snerdley, and so is HR.
And so we're sitting uh the whole show is coming to you from Los Angeles today, which is uh a whole different twist, so I don't know if you'll feel it.
This kind of a left coast uh approach to the whole thing, but anyway, you might turn your radios facing west.
It might it might get you better reception as we uh we zoom across the country with you on this Friday the thirteenth.
That uh tricks uh what how do you say that tricks a decaphobia?
I don't know, maybe Don Imus now is thinking that he might think it might be a bad number.
What I mean, this is one of those stories, ladies and gentlemen, boys and girls, and we've got we've got, of course, Imus, but we've got really the first hour should be the apology hour.
Because we not only have uh Don Imus and all the apologies that he has uh expressed, but we also, of course, have um what's his name?
Nyphong, the uh the uh Mike Knife.
The yeah, Duke rape case, uh lacrosse players at Duke, and he's apologizing like crazy.
And so we've and we also then have, and and I thought, do I want to do this today?
And and you know me, folks.
We've been doing this together for many, many years here on the Rush Limbaugh program.
Uh but one of the things that um you know me from is the fact that I'm my real life is I'm a financial person and I do this talk show stuff as kind of a I don't know, a sickness, a hobby, something I don't know anyway anyway.
I've done it for a long time.
And um, and so I thought, well, financial, and there's this whole story coming out of the World Bank about Paul Wolfowitz.
And so I thought, oh man, the audience isn't gonna.
I start coming up with with the World Bank stories, and people are gonna go, what is he talking about?
But Paul Wolfowitz, if you don't know this story, and Wolfowitz, of course, is one of the former Bush administration officials, one of the ones the media loves to call, the drive-bys like to call uh one of the neocons, and so he goes over and takes a position ahead of the World Bank, and now he's in trouble over there.
And the Wall Street Journal today editorializing about it said they thought it would take about a year.
Well, they're off by a few months, but that the uh the left is trying to push Wolfowitz out the door at the World Bank because of his girlfriend and uh pay package that he got for his girlfriend.
And so he's apologizing, and he's about ready to be run out the door because the board of directors, which is group of uh government people from around the world, are meeting.
They met last night.
They may say something while we're on the air here today.
Uh but they have a big meeting coming up this weekend in Washington, the World Bank and the uh IMF, and so uh we've got we've got Imus being run out the door, we've got Nightphone being run out the door, and we've got Wolfowitz just about ready to be run out the door, and everybody's apologizing everywhere.
So this first hour, even though it's open line Friday, it might help if you just if you need to apologize for something, this would probably be a good time to do it.
Phone number to join the program 1800-282-2882 as we go through the program.
Where do you want to start with Imus?
Where do you want to start?
I mean, this story about everything that can be said has been said, I think.
I mean, it's just it's one of those where I think we all have our positions on it.
Uh This isn't the end of Don Imus.
I predict this will not be the end of Don Imus, even though he's 65 years old.
He's been doing this for 40 years.
I wouldn't blame him for one second if he did not say, you know what?
Don.
I'm finished.
I've made my money.
I've I'm comfortable.
I I have hopefully he hasn't spent all his money.
And he'll move on from there.
He's actually, he's an old Sacramento radio guy.
Did you know that?
He started at Croy, an old legendary station in Sacramento, so he also comes from Sacramento.
Not from there, but that's where he worked at one time.
But I don't know where he's going to go, but he's going to wind up someplace else, I predict.
I don't think the reason why is I don't think anybody wants to have their career ended, whether they're a talk show host or whether they're a banker or whatever you do, nobody wants to have a long, illustrious, successful career ended on a black note.
On a tarnish on some sort of smudge.
And so I suspect he'll be picked up by somebody else somewhere sometime.
He'll certainly get the offers, I think.
And of course, there is our old friend satellite radio, where uh he might I mean there's all kinds of places for him to go.
And remember there was a couple of other radio guys out there that were that were thrown out the door by the same folks, Opie and Anthony, and they went out the door because they had that sex episode over at St. Patrick's Cathedral.
They're back.
They're back.
So you have you have a marketplace, and because of the fact I am a financial guy, I am a business guy, first and foremost, I come from the world of business.
I look at this and I go, there's there's two issues why this is such a big debate.
And I will and this isn't obligatory, but I I don't like what he said.
I think it was wrong.
I don't like to go to comedy clubs because of all the four-letter words.
I'm not a prude.
I've been in the army.
I know I know a lot of four-letter words.
I just don't like to spend my money to hear people say them.
I think it was despicable what he said.
Yet at the same time, I think the big hubbub about all of this is because of two things.
Number number well, first of all, is the focus is on the accusers.
Al Sharpton and Jesse Jackson are two guys that uh you love to hate.
I mean, there's a lot of people that just don't like them.
And for lots of good reasons, because of the fact they're very hypocritical.
They've gone out and they've said things and they've done things.
And yet they turn around and throw stones at Don Imus.
So the focus for a lot of people to argue this is not about Imus, but about Sharpton and about Jackson.
And I think that's wrong.
I think it's the wrong way to argue your point.
I understand it's emotionally easy to do that, but that's really not the way to argue the point.
The the place, the second part of this, what I come from is again, the marketplace.
The focus should be on the marketplace.
Is it commercial or is it not commercial?
Commercialism.
You've got I don't buy rap music.
I don't buy I don't I don't like the lyrics that are in rap music.
Some people do.
Now people are calling for rap music to be banned.
In fact, if CBS and CBS radio was really going to get serious about all of this, why don't they go ban all that music on some of their radio stations where they make millions of dollars?
No, I know, they're not going to do that.
But where I mean the term ho, first of all, I mean, folks, I don't know what what it was when you grew up.
When I grew up, I never heard the term hoe.
I heard hooker, I heard horror, but I never heard ho.
And where did the term ho come from?
It came from it came from the the rap artist.
It came from and that's there's a lot of the lyrics that we can't even say here on the radio.
So if it's commercially successful, if there's an audience to buy it, it should be allowed under the way we do things in this country to be able to be said.
Should it be set on the airwaves?
No, I don't think so.
But should it be available?
Can people go out on the street corner in this country because of the First Amendment?
You can go out there and call anybody anything you want.
You might get a mouthful of knuckles from somebody.
But you can, and there's a buyer for rap music.
And there's a buyer for Don Imus.
And as long as there are enough buyers of rap music and enough buyers for Don Imus, they should still be able to go out in this country and sell whatever they want to sell.
Now for the radio, good grief.
What happened to the simple, simple, simple uh turn it off?
There's an off button.
If you don't like something, don't patronize it.
But but if you don't like rap music, but somebody else does.
What's it your what's it what's it why are you allowed to tell somebody else what they can and cannot buy?
What they can and cannot consume.
And that's the problem I'm having with this whole thing is that from a commercial standpoint and from the marketplace standpoint, let that decide.
And this is where I have some problems.
MSNBC, I kind of understand why they dumped Imus.
And the reason why they dumped Imus in my guesstimate is, oh, I'm sure they were wringing their hands and fussing on what to do until somebody from sales came in the door and said, Well, we've lost a whole bunch of advertisers.
We've lost a whole bunch of money.
Not coming back.
And to me, that was that was a legitimate reason to say, well, if there aren't going to be advertisers or big advertisers of the money, if we're going to lose money on this thing, then let's get rid of it.
I understand that business decision.
What I'm having troubles with is over at CBS.
They said it was based on the uh language coming out of uh CBS is that they based it on all these discussions that they had, and that the discussions were the issue.
Uh, where is this?
Uh Les Moon says there has been much discussion of the effect language like this has on young people, particularly young women of color trying to make their way in this society.
That consideration has weighed most heavily on our minds as we made our decision.
I'm sorry, I don't think Les Moonvez made his mind up on that sort of stuff.
I would hope he would make his mind up, and I suspect he did, based upon the business side of this, of whether or not they could in fact continue to run this program with an audience, and with an audience you'll get advertisers.
And I also think it's somewhat disingenuous, don't you, that there's uh everybody knew that hired Imus, what he has said on television for the last ten years and what he has said on radio for the last 40 years, and where why didn't they not fire him before?
Because they made lots of money on him.
He's been on radio for 40 years.
Now the other thing well I need to take a break.
The women at Rutgers by the way I understand why they would be upset.
They were called a really, really, really bad name.
The thing about this is what what's twisted about the way these things turn out is that I didn't know anything about Rutgers women's basketball.
I didn't know anything about the women that played for Rutgers.
And now I do.
And now I'm pretty impressed.
These are some really exceptional young ladies.
And they went up to the championship, the national championship for best well they lost to Tennessee, but but still, I would think the women at Tennessee who won the championship are going, hey, what about us?
Because we don't know anything.
I don't know anything about the women of Tennessee, but I sure know about the women at Rutgers, and wow, what a what an impressive group.
Speech is complicated, and that's my point about this whole about this whole subject this hour.
Speech is very complicated in the world we live in today, in the workplace, the First Amendment, what the rules are, who can say one thing but somebody else can't.
We'll take a break and come right back.
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My name is Tom Sullivan.
This is the Rush Limbar Radio Program.
Welcome back.
Tom Sullivan in for Rush today.
He'll be back on Monday.
He's got a long weekend this weekend.
Off on a secret venture of fun.
He'll, I'm sure, discuss all of this with you as he gets back.
Tom Sullivan's sitting in for Rush.
And uh, of course, IMIS is the uh topic.
Really, it's more than that.
We've got Apology Hour going because there's all kinds of apologies.
Big apologies in the news today.
We've got coming up later in the program, um this whole business.
I'm I'm gonna I'm gonna need some help on this one.
Why are politicians running for president of the United States refusing to go on a program with Fox?
So this uh I've never seen a presidential candidate uh presidential race where a television network is the issue of the pres is an issue in the race.
I mean, it should be about the war and about the economy and not a television network.
So we've got that, and then I've got some financial things for you as we go into uh later in the program.
But we've this whole business about speech.
Let me just let me just briefly and quickly.
If you take a look over the last um I don't know, twenty years, something like that, twenty-five years.
Speech has become much more complicated in our world that you and I live in today.
I'm not sure if it's the same all around the world, but it certainly is in this country.
What can you say?
What can't you say?
What can you say with a smile on your face?
What can you say to your to in the workplace to people that you work with?
What can't you say?
Why can one person say something, but you can't say that same thing.
Why uh w speech has become very, very complicated.
And the problem that that I'm having, and I presume a lot of you are having, is that speech the rules aren't fixed.
And so you and I are going out into the world every day, never sure if whether or not we're going to I mean, I don't sit around and lose sleep over it, but you're never sure of whether or not you're gonna say something that's going to offend somebody or make somebody mad.
And and so where and uh yes, of course you have the First Amendment.
You can stand and say anything you want to say, but can you say that same thing?
You can say it on a street corner, but can you say it in your place of work?
I think you leave your First Amendment at the door when you go to work.
I think the person who owns the company gets to tell you what you can and cannot do at work, how you dress, how you look, how you talk.
I do.
I think it's um how you treat your customers, how you treat your co-workers.
So I think the First Amendment is is fine, but in the workplace, I think the rules switch over to whatever the boss wants you to say or not say.
But censorship is something outside of the workplace.
And that's where I know Rush yesterday was talking about this.
All right, let's go get let's go get television and radio and let's get it cleaned up.
And let's make sure that the language is clean and that uh clean is going to be defined by whom?
The Al Sharptons of the world.
I mean, his track record isn't uh clean, so I don't know if he who's gonna be the arbiter.
And then from there, of course, we once we get TV fixed and we get radio fixed, then we go to Hollywood.
And we gotta make sure those movies that keep coming out that do have an impact when you keep pounding a message on somebody's head.
That's marketing 101.
It works, it gets a message through, and it changes society.
So we need to go in and we need to start having this arbiter.
Go to Hollywood and start telling them what they can and cannot make in their movies.
And of course the books.
You've got to go there too.
So speech is complicated.
The rules are not fixed.
They're confusing.
They keep changing.
And that's where we are.
800-282-2882.
Let's start with uh Bob in Lancaster PA.
Bob, hi, you're on the Rush Limbaugh program with Tom Sullivan.
Hey, how are you doing, Tom?
I'm doing great.
I want to pull my two cents in here about this whole speech and how you know racism and all that good stuff.
I'm kind of gifted.
I've I've known five generations of my family.
Um we're Irish, not a big deal.
Um I was gifted, you know, I knew my great grandparents, my grandparents are still alive, my parents.
Um I'm 36 now.
I got kids of my own.
And I'll tell you what, there's a lot of years there where I can tell the difference of how my great-grandparents and grandparents talked about blacks and how things have gone through the generations that it got to the point where my kids, it's not even an issue to them anymore.
They don't even ever hear it.
I know.
I and I wish we had we're up against the clock, but but I want to bring up what you just brought up is about how the rules of speech has also changed.
And maybe because Don Imus is 65, he grew up in a different speech pattern.
We'll talk when we come back.
And I just want to say I'm s I'm I just I I want to say I'm I'm just sorry.
I'm just sorry.
I don't know what I'm sorry about, but I thought it was an appropriate time for all of us to be apologizing for what it's uh for those of you just joining the program, Rush is out today, he'll be back on Monday.
Tom Sullivan's an in for rush.
And um, because I I am I am such a believer.
I am such a believer in the free market.
I'm such a capitalist.
The free market fixes all wrongs.
And even though Les Moonvis did not pick up the phone and call me directly for my advice, what I would have done in this situation was call in Don Imus and Al Sharpton and put them in the same room with me, and I would say, Listen, Don, you're on suspension for two weeks.
No pay, by the way.
What you said was horrible.
But we know that you've been saying horrible things for a long time, and we've looked the other way.
Thank you very much for the revenue.
Actually, it wasn't that much revenue.
I'm kind of surprised by the low numbers.
But anyway, I digress.
I get back to so so I say, Don, after two weeks, you come back on the air.
And Al, after two weeks, I'm gonna keep your business going too, because it's going to give you something to keep rallying around.
It's going to keep your business.
You're going to be able to go out there and raise all kinds of funds for your organization.
The national, I can't remember the name of his organization.
Anyway, he will, and so it keeps it going, if it keeps going, but we'll leave that to the people.
We'll leave that to the audience.
We'll leave that to the customers and the advertisers.
And so you go out there, and two weeks later, Don, if you don't get your audience back, and the numbers, if the numbers go down, and the advertisers therefore start demanding less, they don't have to pay so much for the for their advertising.
Then guess what?
We're gonna throw you out the door.
You gotta reach a certain level of audience, and you gotta reach a certain level of advertising revenue, or you're out the door.
And Al Sharpton, for you, that gives you something that you can then go out and you can campaign to have people not listen.
It gives you something that to rally around too.
So everybody gets to go out there and compete for you, the customer.
And if you don't like what Don Imus said, then don't tune in.
If you want to support him, you tune in.
But that's sadly that choice has been taken away from us.
The marketplace does not get to determine.
John in uh Washington, John High, you're on the Rush Limbaugh program with Tom Sullivan.
Yeah, Tom, uh, let me give you a scoop that I just heard about an hour ago on WMAL ABC affiliate here in Washington, D.C. But apparently there was some group called Media Matters, and they had one guy assigned to listening to Don IMUS's show.
That was his only job, and at 6 a.m. in the morning, he kind of picked up on that thing and he sent out a blast uh email to a hundred uh reporters uh around the country and uh informed them of it, and then also they got involved in uh notifying all the uh advertisers to cancel our advertisements and and they had a spokesperson that came on the Chris Kore show about an hour ago, as I said on uh AM uh talk radio in Washington, D.C. And that's a that's a real scoop.
Now the other thing, and and that that's the thing that caused it.
Yeah, Al Sharpton wasn't the first one.
He got it from uh some association of black journalists who received the information from exactly what you're talking about.
That group media matters.
Yeah, they the other thing is that two things happened this week and both involving college teams.
One, of course, is the girls' basketball team at at Rutgers, and the other was a team that didn't even get to play their season that got it canceled, that the coach got fired, and Al Sharpton and Jesse Jackson were both involved.
Imus did a lot of apologizing to everybody, but there's something missing.
I mean, Jackson and and and uh Sharpton were wrong, and they refused to apologize.
Yeah.
And you know, the the uh young uh woman at uh one of the players on the uh Rutgers team said she's been scarred for life.
Well, I would argue at least the three guys that had charges against them down at the Duke Lacrosse team are scarred for life.
One of the guys he had a job offer, one of them graduated last year.
He had a job offer on Wall Street.
I think it was like over $70,000 a year.
The offer was canceled when this thing hit the the news.
Yeah, I know, and and in fact there's a lot of talk about what's going to happen if they're gonna go after Mike uh Nyphong or whether they're gonna go after Duke University, which did suspend them from school, and uh they had not been found guilty of anything.
So there's a lot of questions too about the fact that yeah, they were right there defending this woman who now the attorney general of North Carolina says uh doesn't even know what she may actually believe.
She's very troubled young lady.
So I'm with you.
I I I mean it just you pick and choose your battles, but to me that's why I say you leave it to, at least in the in the era of not necessarily uh Duke University, but for broadcasting and for books and movies and everything else, uh rap music, if you don't like it, don't buy it.
It's just that simple.
I I it solves so many problems.
Bill in uh Stanton, Michigan, Bill, hi, you're on the Rush Limbaugh program with Tom Sullivan.
Hi.
How are you?
Good.
Uh what I'm calling about is it must have been two and a half, three weeks ago, back during the tournament.
I I know it wasn't the final game, it was either the semifinal or the quarterfinal or whatever.
I was going through the uh channels looking for something to watch, and I came across the uh uh Rutgers game, and I watched it for three or four minutes, and then I shut it off because the uh the look and the deportment and the sportsmanship uh that was being exhibited by the Rutgers team was so distasteful to me.
I probably am one of the three or four hundred people that uh were actually uh uh saw the game.
Yeah, I think you are.
Yeah, uh I have through all of this debate about uh Don Imus and all of that.
Uh if people had seen what I saw on television, uh the way these uh these girls were made up and and the way they acted, they looked more like they were representing a maximum security woman's prison rather than a major university.
Well, I I think you're right, Bill, on your comment about the fact that it not many people probably watched uh and and that's what I must had as his probable uh background on him too, was whatever he saw.
I don't know if he saw it.
It sounded like he saw it from his comments.
Um I've uh on the other hand have been very impressed by these young ladies in their in the way they've conducted themselves in the news conference, uh, in the way that they they're they're very articulate young ladies who are um not only really good basketball players, but they also have done very well academically.
I mean they're they're they're everybody they're everything that I think a lot of people would want their daughters and sons to be good people that are successful in uh in all kinds of different walks of life, whether it's athletics or academics or both in this particular case.
So I they may have looked rough, they may have looked uh like they played a rough game.
I don't know.
I can't, I didn't see it.
I wasn't like you said, one of the three or four hundred that saw the game.
But I uh I I don't I I don't think this is going to scar anybody there.
In fact, if anything, I think it's gonna help them.
Simply because of the fact that I did not know, and I presume a lot of you did not know anything about these ladies until all of this came out.
Again, I go back though and say I wish that we would have had the choice to decide.
I would love to have seen if the audience would have come back for Don Imus.
And we're not gonna know now.
Ferris and Hartford.
Hi, Ferris, you're on the Rush Limbaugh program with Tom Sullivan.
It's an honor to talk on the world's most listened to radio talk show.
Here we are.
Here we are.
And some of the callers today are starting to get to the truth of this.
Especially the fellow who exposed the Media Matters blast email to its uh willing accomplices in the uh in the left.
And this has nothing to do with J. Donald Imus.
This has everything to do with the show.
And that show was not made up of J. Donald Imus.
That show was made up of Charles McCord, a Christian Bible quoting uh man with character.
Bernard McGurk, who is a splendid conservative uh uh comedian, Rob Bartlett, whose imitations of characters from everywhere from Truman Capote to Bill Clinton made them and that show, not Donald Imus, but that show was despised by the militant feminist movement and specifically the militant lesbian wing of that movement.
And this has nothing to do with race, Tom.
This has everything to do with the destruction of hope among two generations of young American males who were attacked on the view this morning suggesting that the boys at Duke, if it was Duke University, am I correct?
Right.
That those boys, even though they were not guilty of this alleged rape by the lady who I would refer to as an H, who was a stripper, which the lesbians would like us to call a an exotic dancer.
I know, I know.
I got a lot of this in my local show where people say, wait, it doesn't matter what they do for a living.
But you're the woman, the accuser is out of her mind, apparently.
Uh the attorney general says that uh she uh the twenty-eight-year-old woman uh is troubled, saying she may actually believe the many contradictory stories that she tells.
Let's not focus on the characters involved in this.
This is a movement that is you're starting to get a look at the truth by the prior caller who who told you about the media matters last email.
If you're not gonna be able to do it.
Well, they've been around.
They've been around, they do stuff, um, they do stuff on this show all the time.
They're quote, they're going out, there's a there's a there's a group out there that, and we'll get into this next hour, but there's a group out there going after Fox.
And they have a group that monitors it sits around people that spend all day every day watching and recording everything that is said so they can go out and try and attack something that they disagree with.
And I'm going.
This is dangerous stuff.
This is very dangerous stuff because if you disagree with something, then we should ban it.
We should censor it.
It's sounding a little gestapo to me, doesn't it?
Doesn't it to you?
That's the beauty of what this country is all about is that you can say and I can say whatever we want to say.
We may get in trouble, we may get into a fight.
In the workplace, you may get fired, but you still have the right to go out and say what you want to say in this country.
Now I'm just sad that we're not able to get to the point where we're going to be able to uh decide whether or not the audience would go back and and uh and follow Don Imus.
I suspect that his audience would have been bigger than ever.
I suspect there's a lot of people who did not know that Don Imus was even on the air.
Believe it or not, even though he's a legendary broadcaster.
When we come back, I'll tell you uh they're running a poll over at uh the Wall Street Journal of whether Don Imus should get a second chance in radio.
And I'll give you some numbers about all of this and and uh even um Reason Magazine has a very interesting piece about how we've gone from Lenny Bruce to Reno 911 American humor, and how we all have laughed at some of these things.
800-282-2882.
My name is Tom Sullivan.
This is the Rush Limbaugh Radio Program.
Welcome back.
Tom Sullivan's in for a rush today.
He'll be back on Monday talking about Imus and uh Wall Street Journal poll.
Should Don Imus get a second chance in radio.
How do you think it's going?
How do you think it's going?
You think it's close?
You think it's uh it's not even close.
So which way is it going?
Seventy-two percent.
And they're and they're getting a pretty good large number out of this whole thing.
Seventy-two percent of the people at the Wall Street Journal poll says Don Imus should get a second chance in radio.
Seventy-two percent.
I didn't know 72%, you could get 72% agreement on anything in this country.
So I mean that's see, this is where again, I'm not sure the big bosses sitting in the ivory towers of broadcasting America and even are in touch.
Because if you get a group of a small group of protesters to come into a city council chamber, they can change policy in most cities.
Even though the thousands, hundreds of thousands or millions of people live in that city may feel differently.
And I think that's what we've got going on here.
I I'm I know I'm repeating myself, but the marketplace is the place to go.
And and surprisingly.
Well, I mean, surprisingly behind this whole thing, which which drives me crazy, is I'm looking at this, I've got this USA Today story by David Lieberman.
And he says, This is how this is how bad the the sh uh MSNBC is doing.
There that apparently this IMA show in the morning is one of their one of their bright spots.
Says here in the um Lieberman piece, about 358,000 viewers a day watch the 6 to 9 a.m. weekday show on MSNBC.
Ladies and gentlemen, boys and girls.
I'm I work in a in a medium-sized city.
I have more audience on my little local radio talk show than Don Imus has across the country on MSNBC.
Yikes, something's seriously wrong.
Now the other question is, and if you go to Rush Limbaugh.com, there's an article right in the middle of the front page.
Who are they going to replace him with?
Is Al Sharpton going to be able to do the interview?
Is it going to be a black woman?
Better be.
Norm in Atlanta.
Hi, Norm, you're on the Rush Limbaugh program with Tom Sullivan.
Good afternoon, Tom.
How are you?
I'm doing great.
Thank you.
Calling you from what could maybe very soon be called the former capitalist country of the United States of America.
I hope not.
I agree, but you know, you've hit a home run.
It's not a capitalist society.
Other people are pulling the strings.
You know, my whole ish issue with this is the fact that what is Don Imus?
He's a shock jack.
And has been for 40 years.
This isn't anything new.
It doesn't it doesn't say that you have to like what he says, and I personally don't like what he said.
I've never listened to the guy.
I've heard about him, I've seen him on TV, I've been things.
But here's the deal.
He's kind of like that centerpiece on the washing machine.
He's an agitator.
That's what he gets paid to do.
Yes.
And in reality, Tom, the bottom line is that the guy who's crying in his beer this afternoon is gonna be Al Sharpton.
Because he he knows for the fact that Don Imus is of the world are the foundation upon which his world rocks.
Yep.
And you know, they can say what they want.
I know cry.
But the bottom line is without these guys, what are they gonna do?
He would have he would have been much happier, much, much happier if if I must had come back two weeks from now.
I'll bet you if you had if you got a real honest uh reaction from from Al Sharpton, it would be I whoa, yeah, yeah, yeah, I'll run him back on.
Because then he could then he could campaign to have them uh not be listened to.
Well, short break.
Right back, Tom Sullivan's hunting in for Rush Limbaugh, the Rush Limbaugh EIB Radio Network.
Welcome back, Tom Sullivan in with uh the Rush Limbaugh program.
Rush will be back on Monday.
Bob and the Bronx.
Bob, hello, you're on the Rush Limbaugh program.
Yeah, hi.
Uh uh I I really wanted to start out by saying that uh to me and to anyone with uh uh you know a set of ears and a set of eyes, it's crystal clear.
Uh we uh Reverend Al's uh double standards And uh Jesse Jackson's double standards.
Uh the the two so-called reverends, yeah, you know, I mean, all we have to do is look back at the Tawana Brawley uh I'm glad you brought that up, and that's what I was uh thinking when I saw the year from the Bronx.
I thought most of us don't know about the Tawanabrawley case.
Right.
Uh, but but that's where he where Sharpton, and we only have a few seconds here, so I don't have time to get into it here with you.
But for those of you in New York, you know the Tawanna Brawley case, you know that Al Sharpton 14 years ago made up all kinds of things, never apologized, never paid, and was r were supposed to give uh payment to somebody.
He never paid anybody anything for the for the damage he did to other people.