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March 7, 2007 - Rush Limbaugh Program
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March 7, 2007, Wednesday, Hour #2
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Hey, welcome back to the Rush Limbaugh program of the EIB Network sizzling today.
We're in charge of the thermostat.
We're turning up the heat here in the kitchen.
It's great to have you with us.
The telephone number if you want to be on the program today, 800-282-2882, and the email address is Rush at EIBNet.com.
I got a note during the break from a uh friend of mine out in California.
Dear Rush, you know, Wilson could possibly be indicted for lying under oath to the uh that bipartisan Intelligence Senate Committee, uh, in my opinion.
That's if he was under oath.
Uh I I don't know that his testimony was under oath before the Intelligence Committee, but it was so long ago.
I uh Why they're they're they're worried about unionizing these uh these uh airport screeners.
That's that's another just we'll get to that in in just a second.
But the second point is interesting.
I said, I'd love to interview Joe Wilson and ask him one quels question.
Did Valerie ever tell you that you had ruined her career?
And you know, I had never thought of this.
Here we are sitting here incredulous, trying to understand the behavior of Joe Wilson beyond the fact that he's a 60s liberal political activist.
Beyond that fact, we've always assumed here that the Wilson Play marriage is one of hunky dory, never-ending love, and they get along fine and they're this unified team and they're out there working uh to uh destroy the Bush administration and so forth and so on.
But the question is a valid question.
Did Valerie Plame ever tell you, Mr. Wilson you had ruined her career?
Meaning the importance behind the question is that uh Wilson had a role in uncovering Wilson is the guy that went public.
Wilson is the guy that would drive it around town with his wife and the picture and his high sunglasses and the cover of Vanity Fair and so forth.
And when all this broke down, you know, marriages or marriages.
The question really is, I wonder if Valerie really chewed this guy out for destroying her career, and he's on a mission now to uh try to make amends.
It's interesting.
Well, only to me, perhaps, but in the sense that we just assume these two assume these two are the unified couple here, more of a political operative couple than they are a traditional American married couple.
Um the point is who knows what goes on behind closed doors, and we know that many different things motivate husbands and wives in relationships and marriages to uh behave in certain fashion.
And we know this guy is not innocent in uh in in disclosing his wife's existence, and he's out there lying through his teeth about all this, and they had to mount a campaign here to cover it up, and the drive-by is I don't know they love Wilson personally,
it's just that Wilson allows them to continue with their whole charade, and all of this is about the pre-war intelligence being cooked and made up and manipulated, and therefore the whole Iraq War is unjust was a lie, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.
I want to deal with this one too.
Dear Rush, what's the deal with Libby being Mark Rich's attorney for his pardon?
Fitzgerald investigated pardon.
I'm confused.
What else do we not know about Fitzgerald?
Look, folks, getting a lot of these.
Rush, you idiot, you're missing the point.
This is this is personal.
Fitzgerald wanted to get Libby because Libby was uh Mark Rich's pardon and uh uh a lawyer for the pardon and uh Fitzgerald was was angry when when Clinton pardoned.
You guys, I know everybody's looking for some secret, some hidden meaning.
But let me tell you if you don't understand what this is about, this is about criminalizing conservatism.
This is about criminalizing Republicans.
This is about destroying the Bush administration.
This is not about getting scooter Libby because he was represent uh it was uh a lawyer for Mark Rich.
If Fitzgerald's angry about that, then the guy to go after is Bill Clinton.
Because Bill Clinton pardoned him.
Clinton was going to pardon him everywhere around us who the lawyer was.
There may be something personal there, but believe me, and we listen to what Fitzgerald said.
Fitzgerald didn't want he wanted Cheney, and this is as close as he could get.
And don't be too smart by half out there, folks.
Understand what this is.
This is a coordinated effort to destroy the Bush administration, to destroy the war in Iraq, to discredit it and further discredit the whole war on terror.
This is the Democrats owning defeat.
There may be other personal things with Fitzgerald.
He's a prosecutor.
He's got to get a conviction.
He had all this power.
He was granted power that no previous independent counsel had ever been given.
To investigate all these years, come up with nothing, doesn't look good.
I mean, there's a number of ancillaries here that fit, but don't mistake what this is.
The drive-by's participated in the bait and switch that this whole trial was about.
And Fitzgerald played him like a violin.
He couldn't have got what he got in that trial yesterday, that verdict if it weren't for the drive-by media.
Make no mistake, and he knew it.
Now moving on with this.
Interesting from the Wall Street Journal.
Just a couple of excerpts, an editorial today entitled The Libr Libby Travesty, the Bush administration owes the former aide a pardon and an apology is the title.
Mr. Libby did talk to some reporters about the administration's case for war in 2003, and he did mention Ms. Plame in some cases.
So the jury apparently decided that when asked about those conversations by the FBI and the grand jury, he had lied about his own sources of information about Joe Wilson and his wife, in other words, and get this.
In other words, Scooter Libby has not been convicted of lying to anybody about the case for war in Iraq or about Mr. Wilson or his wife.
He has been convicted of telling the truth about Wilson and Ms. Plame to some reporters and then not owning up to it.
Says he told or learned of it from Russert, and Russia says, no, I never talked to him about it.
Nobody in this case disputed anything that would have been said about Wilson and Plame and so forth.
This is a key point.
Scooter Libby's been convicted of telling the truth about Wilson and Plame to some reporters, but then not owning up to it in the grand jury and to the FBI.
He told the truth about him, and that's what's being made criminal.
Telling the truth about critics.
You can't do it, apparently.
Administration cannot respond to its critics.
One tragic irony is that if Mr. Libby had only taken the Harold Icky's grand jury strategy and said I don't recall, he probably never would have been indicted, but our guess is that he tried to cooperate with the grand jury because he never really believed he had an Ing to hide.
This may also explain why Libby never retained an experienced Beltway attorney until he was indicted.
None of this has stopped critics of the war from trying to blow this entire case into something far larger.
Senate Majority Leader Dingy Harry Reid hailed the conviction as proof of the White House, tried to manipulate intelligence and discredit war critics, but the charges against Libby had nothing to do with intelligence.
And Wilson was himself so discredited by the summer of 2004 that the John Kerry campaign dropped him as a spokesman once the Senate exposed his deceit.
I had forgotten that.
Giant light bulbs went off in my brain and my head when I read this today in the Wall Street Journal.
Wilson was so discredited by summer 2004, all these lies he's been out there telling, that even the Kerry campaign dropped him as a spokesman once the Senate exposed his deceit.
Now moving on to the prosecutor, Mr. Fitzgerald.
This is from the Just One Minute blog.
Some comedy classics from Independent Counsel Fitzgerald.
From the New York Times, he did an interview.
He said, It's inconceivable that any responsible prosecutor would walk away from the facts that we saw in December 2003 and say there's nothing here, move on.
We can't tolerate perjury, he said, adding that the truth is what drives our judicial system.
If people don't come forward and tell the truth, we have no hope of making the judicial system work.
Well, let's see.
Richard Armitage read about Ms. Plame in a document marked Tom's Secret, leaked it to Bob Woodward and Bob Novak.
After the Novak column came out, Armitage confessed to all that, but forgot to mention the Woodward leak, and he kept on forgetting until the term of the grand jury had expired and Libby had been indicted.
At Woodward's urging.
Armitage then came forward secretly.
Not indicted, not even investigated.
The AP filed a Freedom of Information Act request and found the Woodward appointment right there on Armitage's calendar for June, but Fitzgerald apparently never did.
Walk on by wasn't interested.
Armitage was not part of the administration that they could nail Cheney with, and that's what Fitzgerald wanted.
When FBI investigators came calling, former presidential press spokesman Ari Fleischer took the fifth, held out for a use immunity grant, which he got in January 2004 from Fitzgerald.
He then confessed to leaking to John Dickerson and David Gregory of NBC, but he denied linking to Walter Pinkus.
He also claimed to have learned about Miss Plame during a lunch with Libby, as well as on Air Force One a few days later while paging through some classified documents.
Walter Pinkis, Washington Post, contradicted Ari Fleischer's claim, as did Libby.
Diggerson contradicted in print, but was never asked to testify.
Gregory's not been asked to testify and has been silent on his role.
And yet, here's Fitzgerald saying we can't tolerate perjury.
The truth is what drives our judicial system.
There's a lot of truth out there he ignored, such as who leaked her name.
This investigation should have never begun.
Once that was known, but for reasons that we've discussed.
Uh he couldn't afford for it not to go forward.
From his press conference yesterday, Fitzgerald said this.
And if people would step back and look at what happened here.
When the investigation began in the fall of 2003, and then we got appointed to the special counsel the end of December 2003.
What's now clear is what we knew at the time.
By the by that point in time, we knew Libby had told a story.
That what he had told reporters had come not from other government officials, but from reporter Tim Russert.
It's also now public that by that point in time the FBI had learned that in fact Russert did not tell Libby that information.
In fact, Russert didn't know it.
Tim Russert could not have told him.
But in January 2004, Fitzgerald learned from Ari Fleischer that David Gregory had received a leak on the morning of July 11th, which certainly gave Russert time to chat with Gregory and then with Libby.
And Gregory works for Russert, Russich's the bureau chief.
Did Fitzgerald call Gregory to verify Fleischer's testimony?
No.
Why not?
Who knows?
Ask Fitzgerald.
My guess is that he figured Gregory would only undermine the case he was constructing against Libby, and building that case was more important than learning the truth.
This is again from just one minute blog.
Fitzgerald didn't want any information in court that would discredit his his his uh effort to get Cheney, Libby, Rove, whoever he was really trying to get.
But it boils down to the fact that um Libby ends up being guilty for telling the truth about Joe Wilson, and then not being honest about who he told and what.
It's it's just it's it's it's maddening and it's absurd and it is a discredit to the criminal justice system.
Uh all this talk about we can't suborn perjury, we can't, we can't have the we can't, the criminal justice system can't survive lies.
I don't know whether they're lies, but there are so many people who had facts to blow this case out of the water that were totally ignored, and they didn't come forward until after the grand jury's term had expired and the indictment had come down against Libby, such as Armitage.
And Armitage today is a hero in Washington, along with Joe Wilson and his wife.
They're gonna get rich.
They're gonna probably have a movie about Wilson and his wife, Hollywood will eat this up.
And meanwhile, a decent guy's life is destroyed and his family destroyed, and is facing 25 years in prison.
Now, the federal guidelines uh for this sentencing uh indicate 18 months of three years would be the likely term if he's sentenced to jail at all, could be house detention.
Who knows what's going to happen.
This is up to Judge Reggie B. Walton, also not a bright light in this whole affair.
Back after this, stay with him.
And we're back.
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Yesterday we played audio sound bites for you of uh Harry Reed and Nancy Pelosi saying essentially that this was nothing.
Uh we need to get further.
This is it's about time somebody in the administration was uh found guilty of all this.
It was really, really shameless.
A guy's life has been destroyed, he didn't do anything.
He didn't do anything.
His life has been destroyed, and that is forgotten in all of this.
Even in Washington, even among Republicans, we Everybody's talking about the process here, including me.
We're talking about the process.
A guy's life has been destroyed.
A harmless, unassuming loyal guy just loves uh I first heard about Scooter Libby back in the early 90s.
Uh, and I've never met him, but everybody I've talked to about him just loves the guy.
He's funny, he's engaging, he's a hard worker.
Um it's an injustice.
This is Libby never did anything to anybody, never went out and said anything about anything to anybody.
He's just out there trying to defend his administration against a bunch of lies being told by an absolute pathological liar, Joe Wilson.
And his wife.
So the guys, the editors at National Review today have a nice editorial on Dingy Harry.
They write that Reed's reaction to the Libby verdict perfectly illustrates the fantasy version of events that has marked the entire Valerie Plame Wilson Leak investigation since its earliest days.
Reed said it's about time somebody in the Bush administration had been held accountable for the campaign to manipulate intelligence and discredit war critics.
If that's what Harry's been waiting for, the Libby verdict shouldn't satisfy him.
Libby was charged neither with manipulating intelligence nor with discrediting critics of the Iraq war.
Libby told the truth about critics.
This is nothing to do with what the Democrats think that it's about.
They've they've they've all succumbed.
They are all living a huge lie, they and all of their supporters.
Libby's conviction followed from two sentences that he uttered in two conversations with two individuals, and neither sentence had anything to do with manipulating intelligence or discrediting a run-of-the-mill blowhard war critic.
When the words valer plame passed the lips of White House aides, it was only to set the record straight after a dishonest partisan accused the Bush administration of lying.
That would be Wilson, who claimed the office of the vice presidency sent him to Niger.
His wife recommended him.
George Tennant knew this.
George Tennett had an axe to grind, could have ended all this, but he was lazy and wouldn't get the truth out from the CIA about who actually sent Wilson.
But it even came out in the trial that the vice president's office didn't send Libby, comes back, writes this op-ed, full of lies, and the White House says, Well, who is this guy?
And they set out to find out.
Because Bush's stubbornly ill-informed political opponents persist in basing their attacks on discredited statements from the discredited Joe Wilson.
A brief recounting of the facts is necessary yet again.
New York Times columnist Nick Christoff wrote on June 13th of 2003 that President Bush's claim that Saddam Hussein had sought uranium in Africa, quote, had already been flatly discredited by an envoy investigating at the behest of the office of the vice president, unquote.
In fact, the claim wasn't discredited by the envoy who wasn't sent at the behest of the vice president.
These two old and false assertions form the basis of the accusations that Harry Reed leveled yesterday.
Reed doesn't have to take our word for it.
At the recent trial, it was revealed that Valerie Plame recommended her husband be sent to Niger before the vice president even inquired whether there was any additional intelligence about the uranium claim.
As for manipulating pre-war intelligence, Senator Reed should run his poisonously partisan version of events, events past his former colleague, Democrat Senator Chuck Robb.
In its March 2005 report on pre-war WMD intelligence.
The Silberman Rob Commission wrote, quote, the United States government asserted that Saddam Hussein had reconstituted his nuclear weapons program, had biological weapons and mobile biological weapons production facilities, and had stockpiled and was producing chemical weapons.
All of this was based on the assessments of the U.S. intelligence agency.
They didn't manipulate anything.
And a Democrat on the committee makes this point, and Dingy Harry's ignoring that.
The commission found no evidence, and they said this, that policymakers, i.e., Bush Cheney, pressured intelligence analysts.
They did find that unpressured analysts poorly served policymakers.
According to the commission, the intelligence community failed to explain to policymakers how much its assessments were driven by assumptions and inferences rather than concrete evidence.
And of course, in his closing statement, Fitzbong talked darkly about a cloud over the vice president.
Got his weather patterns wrong.
The cloud is over Joe Wilson.
Back after this.
Glad to.
Happy to make the complex understandable.
We do it every day here on the EIB network.
Another email and a reply to it and then back to your phone calls.
This is an email, or this is subscriber to Rushlinbaugh.com objecting or questioning my assessment that Scooter Libby's life has just been destroyed.
Dear Rush.
Scooter Libby's life destroyed.
This is a temporary setback.
Ollie North came out pretty good after he got the GOAT tag.
Libby will get a good gig at Fox News Channel.
He'll be the go-to expert on inside administration.
True, this would be a S deal, but I think Scooter will be all right.
This is precisely my point.
We look at all of this because we're not personally involved, and we look at it in almost a cavalier way and in a in a in a way that simply examines the process.
Scooter Libby has just been convicted of a felony.
Four felonies.
Scooter Libby, in the eyes of the law, is no more than a common human debris shred defendant.
Look at how he's being tarred and feathered and distraught.
I know the drive by is now starting to be coming up with some sympathy for him, but as I also predicted yesterday.
But in the eyes of the law, this guy's every bit the criminal that anybody else has been killed.
For felonies.
If you don't think that Scooter Libby and his wife didn't sleep last night, if you don't think that his family is upset, you don't you think Scooter Libby grew up the kind of guy he is ever thinking he would run afoul to the law in this way?
I guarantee you he didn't.
And this is not part of the game.
This is this is not, you know, somebody says, Well, you know, I'll work for you, Mr. Cheney, and I'll even go to jail.
I'll I'll even I'll even be convicted of this is not what these people plan for.
You get wrung up by the federal government, and you get a prosecutor with uh limited power pursuing you.
You try it, folks.
You see what it's like.
Sit there and say, Oh, scooter will be fine, he'll be on Fox News channel.
Even if Scooter Libby is pardoned, he is going to have a cloud over his head for the rest of his life precisely because of that.
There's no good thing or good way out of this.
Yeah, there are some pie may not serve jail time if he does, they may not serve much.
But we're still talking about a very real possibility the guy's gonna go to jail.
How many of you would sign up for that?
My only point here is this is real people, and this guy is on our side, and he has been he has been convicted of felonies because he's a Republican and because he was defending the policies of an administration that the majority of the people this country voted for.
And he was defending this administration against a pack of lies told by a psychopath and his wife.
Scooter will be okay.
You're overdoing it.
Scooter will be okay.
He'd be on Fox News channel or doing it now.
Yep, yep.
If Scooter Libby wanted to be on Fox News channel, he would have gone into journalism.
If Scooter Libby wanted to be on Fox News channel telling the truth about whatever he's an expert in, he would have signed up for that.
That's not what Scooter Libby set out to do.
And I'm not so sure he will end up on the Fox News.
I'm not sure something he wants to do.
I don't, as I say, I don't know him.
But the fact that so many people look at this in an impersonal way and just chalk it up, well, that's Washington.
That's part of the problem.
If this is just Washington, then something about Washington is poisoned and needs to be fixed.
And guys like Libby and Cheney and Rumsfeld et Hall, Condoleezza Rice Have been working tirelessly in a yeoman effort to battle the fact that the left is trying to take over this country, institution by institution after institution, insulating themselves from election results so that even when Democrats lose, they still run these institutions.
You think it's no big deal to be a convicted felon?
Put yourself it's it's hard to do if you haven't been pursued by law enforcement, particularly feds.
Uh but you think this is going to be fine.
Do you think Scooter Libby had the money to pay off these lawyers?
You think he's got the money to pay off the money for the lawyers for his appeals.
He has to go out there and do fundraisers and so forth.
Think Scooter Libby's going to earn 40 million dollars in a lecture circuit in six years like Bill Clinton did.
Frosts me here, folks, is one of our guys, a human being who's been railroaded by a judicial system that's designed to protect against this very thing happening.
It's absurd.
It is an outrage.
It is an injustice.
And he's not going to just be okay.
He'll get through it, and he'll be looking back at this portion of his life at some point, obviously.
But this is, if he gets the right kind of people around him, he'll be able to keep this in perspective and build on it and so forth.
And in one sense, if you want to say it'll be okay, I understand what you mean.
But, you know, this is not a win.
This is not one of these things that's a building block to other great things.
Unless it's played properly.
But, I mean, even if he's pardoned, there's that cloud over you when you get pardoned.
Because when you get pardoned, and I guarantee the Bush administration is not going to pardon him anytime soon.
They're going to wait for the appellate process.
The last thing they want to do is pardon him.
Particularly now, Bush has still got to govern for a year and a half.
He's got a lot of things on the plate.
And this appeal process is going to take another year.
So there's not going to be a pardon before that.
I can't imagine that there would be.
Because the best of both worlds here is for the appeal to be granted and Libby to win it.
And then...
Then we're in good shape.
But if the appeal's granted and uh, or if it's not, either if it's not granted or if it is granted and it loses, uh, then the soonest there'd be a pardon would be December of 2008.
Uh, when there are no consequences.
The Congress leaves and nothing can be done about it, and no hearings and so forth.
That's and that's traditionally when presidents issue pardons, the bulk of them.
Uh Bush has already issued some, of course, during the course of his administration, but uh even so a pardon says you did it, but the president let you off the hook.
Still did it.
He's still got the clutch.
You still, you know, it's wiped clean, but you were convicted of four felonies.
Lawrence in St. Petersburg, Florida, I'm glad you waited.
Welcome to the EIB network, sir.
Thank you, Rush.
Rush, you left one uh adjective out, uh, disgraceful.
The whole thing was much to do about nothing.
And uh, I guess that's behind us now.
But when is it time to fight back?
Well, I had this question yesterday, and somebody said, what can we do?
And specifically about this, it's very difficult.
The judiciary is uh is uh is an institution that you don't you don't elect federal prosecutors, you really don't elect the attorney general.
You certainly don't elect the U.S. attorneys.
You elect the people and the guy that appoints them.
Um that's that's specific uh to this issue.
Bush has been hammered to and fro.
He's turned every cheek that he has, and he's still getting hammered.
He's on complete defense since he's been in there doing taking the high road, doing the right thing.
It's obvious that he's not gonna do anything in the year and a half that he has left, but I have a solution.
I have an idea.
The presidential candidates get out there.
They've now got what a small bully pulpit and get out there and speak and tell the truth, and don't put up with any of this baloney, and go on offense.
Well, yeah, obviously.
We've been looking for one of those guys for how many years?
Well, how many opportunities is there going to be for somebody to step up to the plate?
Uh well, there's always gonna be opportunity for it.
The question is, how many of the right kind of people, people you're talking about, are gonna care enough to want to get involved.
You mentioned the presidential candidates.
I I would love to know what Giuliani thinks of this prosecution, because he was a Patrick Fitzgerald type prosecutor, folks.
Rudy was ruthless when he ran the Southern District of New York U.S. Attorney's Office.
I mean, he paraded Wall Street guys down in the courthouse in handcuffs.
He was mobsters, too.
He was he was a Fitzgerald kind of guy.
I'd like to, I'd like somebody to ask him, what do you think of this verdict?
You know, what do you think of this prosecution?
Because one thing, these people are a fraternity.
I'll tell you this.
I got, I was stunned yesterday.
I got an email, my subscriber email uh list from uh a guy who started.
I guess you can tell Rush by my uh uh email address, I'm a federal prosecutor.
I wasn't able to detect from his email address that he was a prosecutor.
I don't know what uh it his address about it would give that away, but he said, essentially, I don't have it in printed out, but I can very easily paraphrase it.
Because I was I was blown away by it.
He said, Look, I'm a federal prosecutor, and this whole thing is a travesty.
This whole thing is a joke.
And you are so right when you say that you have to fight back against the libs and the left.
And then he offered this, and of course, everybody's got their theories.
He said, I want to tell you when this case was lost.
This case was lost in the opening statements.
When uh Libby's defense team attempted to set up the notion that Libby was a fall guy for other people in the White House.
All he did, Rush, was confirm there was a conspiracy in the White House.
That's all he did.
When that defense lawyer stood up there and said, and then everybody knew why he did it, because he did it because you had a D.C. jury, a bunch of Bush haters, so they were trying to separate Libby from that crowd and and and get sympathy and make the jury think that Libby was being targeted by the evil geniuses inside the White House.
But in so doing, Rush, he said.
They allowed Fitzgerald to continue to make the point that there was this ongoing conspiracy in the White House to discredit and destroy and Libby had been thrown overboard.
And they mention it again in the closing, but never in the trial.
Never as part of the defense.
So once that happened, uh it was it was easy for the jury to believe what Fitzgerald was saying.
Uh he said, please keep my name quiet in private, and went, I of course, uh, of course will.
Uh what reminded me of this, though, is that these federal prosecutors are a um uh a fraternity.
Like many of you are are are just livid over the alleged injustice done to the two border patrol agents.
Well, I know some federal prosecutors.
I've talked to him about it.
Guess what?
Every one of them's defending that's that federal prosecutor to put those guys in jail.
They are a fraternity.
They're a big, big fraternity.
I haven't found a federal prosecutor yet dumping on the guy that sent the border agents to jail, but I did get an email from this guy saying that this case was bogus and this whole thing was, you know, just wrong.
So that's why I would like somebody to ask Rudy, what do you think of this?
Uh it'd be it'd be uh interesting answer.
I'm long here again.
Not much long, but a little long.
Got to take a break back in just a second.
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Tony in Cayokus, California.
Welcome, sir, to the EIB network.
Uh good morning, Rush.
And congratulations on your Nobel nomination.
Thank you, sir, very much.
It's gonna be tight.
Don't expect to win.
I'm just happy to be nominated.
Well, it gives me a great deal of pleasure that you got nominated.
Thank you, sir.
Uh the point I wanted to make was that uh when the media pointedly ignores something, it uh gets my attention.
And one of the things is that uh there's a link between the uh Wilson Plame charade and the Clinton's dirty tricks operation.
Uh do you remember uh James Carville and Paul Bogali and Mandy Greenwald, they ran the Clinton's war room.
Yes, of course.
Well, um reporter Matt Cooper, who's a principal player in the uh Scooter Libby persecution, is married to Mandy Grunwald.
I know.
The whole Democratic Party is incestuous this way.
It uh it stuns me that the media doesn't address this issue.
Oh my gosh, you would be stunned to know who media members are married to.
They don't talk about that with any of them.
Do you remember the CBS info babe Rita Braver?
Yes.
I don't know where she is now, but she's married to a guy named Rob Barnett, who was a Clinton counsel, did all the uh Clinton books, uh so forth.
He's a he's an agent and so forth.
I mean, it the the the the can't think of any more off the top of my head.
Uh Dana Priest of the Washington Post is married to some true left-wing socialist activist uh that that runs a couple of uh so-called uh think tanks and so there.
It's you'd be amazed.
This is the fact that uh Matt Cooper's married to Mandy Grunwald is not unique.
I know what you're thinking is that there is a Clinton war room tie to all of this.
Yes.
Uh and yeah, I can understand you thinking it.
I'd like to see their uh phone records for uh the time period uh before and after uh Joe Wilson went to Niger.
Uh well, you're not uh we're we're yeah, I would too, but we're yes.
Let's let's delve into the realm of uh of possibility for crying out loud.
Chris Matthews, Democrat and the media, legislative assistant, big guy, uh chief of staff to Tip O'Neill.
Who was it that Russet worked for?
Was it Cuomo?
Moynihan.
Russert worked for Moynihan.
Uh uh it's a revolving door.
Stephanopoulos.
Uh is is uh running ABC News Sunday show and so forth.
Clinton administration.
Uh it's not just it's not just marriages.
The juror, this this the lead juror here, this Dennis Collins, used to write at the Washington Post.
He was a neighbor of Tim Russert.
He wrote for Bob Woodward.
He's on the jury.
It the the the media is not just liberals, they're they're Democrats.
They are Democrat activists.
Most of them are registered Democrats anyway.
Michael in uh Columbus, Ohio.
Hello, sir.
You're next on the EIB network.
Good afternoon.
Congratulations on your success and your excellence, Rush.
How are you doing?
Fine, sir.
Thank you.
Good.
Here's the short of it.
You know, we've got a serious issue in this country, and where you disappoint today with your Libby rant, and I get it.
I know where you're lined up, and I I appreciate your viewpoints, but whether it was Marcus Stewart, whether it was Bill Clinton, whether it's Scooter Libby, there's no more room in my life, and there should be no more room in the governance and the leadership and the the elite of this country to accept lying to get your way.
Scooter Libby didn't do anything wrong up until he decided to not be straight about what happened.
That applies to all three names that I just mentioned, and there's plenty of others.
And where you disappoint, for me at least personally, is your unwillingness to look that straight in the face and say unacceptable.
See, this is very selective.
Do you realize how many liars could have been called and put under oath by the independent council and weren't?
I I do I get that.
I get that.
No, you don't get that.
You're being very selective, and you're trying to tell me that I am basically uh constituting or or or putting up with an allowing lying and then mad because my guy gets caught at it.
I. Scooter Libby.
Uh and you're you're you're you're going on what we ought to be attacking here is the culture of lying.
I am trying to do the Democrat Party is living a lie, a series of lies.
And you would be better served, and so would the country people like you would focus on that because it's in the process of ruining this country and terribly disrupting your life.
Give me a break on this.
We'll be back.
All right, got to take a break here, folks, as uh we are at the top of the hour, but uh a few more Scooter Libby items will get those in the rest of the hour along with other exciting news items.
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