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March 7, 2007 - Rush Limbaugh Program
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March 7, 2007, Wednesday, Hour #1
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Welcome to today's edition of the Rush 24-7 podcast.
And greetings once again, ladies and gentlemen, music lovers, drill seekers, and conversationalists all across the fruited playing Rush Linboy here on Wednesday, the middle of the week.
Hump day, as it's popularly known.
Those who have a five-day work week.
Looking forward to three hours of broadcast excellence, the telephone number 800-282-2882, and the email address is Rush at EIBNet.com.
A little bit of an organizational challenge today.
I've got all of yesterday's programs sitting over here in its uh set of stacks, and uh, we've got things that have uh uh been you know accumulating for today's program uh sitting in front of me.
I want to start today with uh with the Scooter Libby verdict.
Uh there's just an incredible amount to say here.
I want to go through it as uh as quickly as uh as I can to get on to some other things here, but uh it this this this this whole trial and the verdict and the uh the aftermath the way the media's playing this uh have uh serious consequences uh for the for the future.
And I want to address uh some of these things with you in a semblance of order.
And I want to start with uh with this uh with this juror, uh what's his name?
Uh Dennis Dennis Collins.
It turns out uh that in the jury selection phase before Dennis Collins' name came out, he was identified as having worked with Bob Woodward.
He was identified as being a neighbor of Tim Russert.
Both would later testify in the case.
So this juror, who I have uh no doubt uh took over the jury room and and ran this whole show, uh, lived near Russert, worked with Woodward and at the Washington Post, and now on Larry King Live said last night he plans to write about this.
I bet he took copious notes in there.
And of course, if you're planning on writing about something, it's far better to write about a conviction than if you have to write about an acquittal.
What's sexy about writing about an acquittal here when you are a Democrat, a registered Democrat as a juror was, a former jury, and people saying, well, how how did he end up on the jury?
Um I asked that question myself to people last night who uh were able to answer it.
And the answer I got was people close to the uh Libby uh defense trust, the uh people that were raising money for his defense fund, said you would not have believed this jury pool.
We we had move on dot org people in the jury pool.
We had we had as many leftists as you could think of, and we used up our strikes.
By the time they got to this guy, we had no strikes left, no peremptory challenges left.
Uh and uh and we ended up being stuck when he was on Larry King Live last night, and Larry said, Dennis Collins, you're gonna write about this.
I am gonna write about it.
I'm not quite sure what the format or where it will be.
Um I'm told I haven't seen it that uh he's already written about it.
Uh this morning he's got some piece already up at the uh Huffington Post.
You know, as I'm wondering, did he did he have contact with the Huffington people before the trial ended, or did they get hold of him after the trial ended?
So you've got you got a guy that worked with Bob Woodward.
You've got a neighbor of Tim Russert's.
Both would testify in the case.
Now says he's gonna write about it.
I bet he took careful notes of events.
All of this was uh was a stage.
The bottom line here, when you look at what everybody, when you look at Fitzgerald, and we'll have comments about his press conference yesterday because he told some some some real laughers uh that there nobody in this case shines.
I still did this like I told you yesterday that this the the unearthly difference that the differing groups of people can have about a singular truth, the singular truth that Joe Wilson is not credible, that Joe Wilson is an out and out confirmed liar.
The Senate Intelligence Committee no less said so about him.
The Washington Post said so today in an editorial.
And yet the liars are getting rich and getting famous, and Tim Russert has convicted Scooter Libby.
Tim Russert, who said yesterday, I take no joy in this, was the same Tim Russert who said when the indictment came down, uh we felt like it was Christmas morning.
Uh The defense was not allowed to skewer Russert uh to try to damage some of his credibility.
One of the things that Russert had said was that he did not, and he's got a law degree.
He said he did not know that uh grand jury uh testimony, uh people that were summoned to testify before grand juries were not allowed to bring lawyers in there.
When in fact the defense had tape of Russert saying just the opposite on Meet the Press and on other television shows three other times.
They were not allowed to introduce that, which will be one of the things that uh no doubt will be on appeal.
Now, you know, I, ladies and gentlemen, I I have uh along with a lot of other people have referred to the drive-by media as a bunch of libs, and they are, there's no question, but I think we need to go further now, and I think we need we need to just come out and out say that the the drive-by media today is nothing more than uh a branch office of the Democrat Party.
They are Democrat Party activists.
Now, you may think that this is distinction without a difference here, but uh uh I think it's profoundly different than just saying they are a bunch of libs.
I know Democrats are libs too, but uh these drive-bys in Washington, especially New York, Washington Axis, throw Boston in there as well, uh, have just become Democrat activists.
Here you've got you've got uh Russert, uh, who's worked with Democrats.
You got Chris Matthews, he's a Democrat too.
You got a Democrat juror.
Uh you got Chris Matthews on television pushing this as a Democrat, using all the things on the on the on the uh side of this case that are not factual and not true.
Uh some headlines, Washington Post Libby verdict deals blow to Bush administration.
New York Times Jim Rutenberg, White House already on the defensive, takes another hit with guilty verdict.
Uh also the New York Times, a judgment on Cheney still to come.
What do we have here?
We have the media rooting for more charges, even though Fitz Fong said that the uh investigation is closed and has been inactive since prior to.
He did say, hey, if somebody comes forward and says something, well, we'll go further.
Well, that clearly meant if Libby decides to come forward now and give up Cheney.
Fitz Morris, or Fitz Fitzfits Fitzfit, whatever, said Fitz Fong said that he he mentioned Cheney's name over and over in court.
Uh he mentioned it yesterday, uh, it made it clear to the jury he really wanted to get Cheney out of this, and Libby is all he could get.
He really wanted to get Chamey.
This this verdict and this trial, as the Washington Post is even forced to admit today, had nothing to do with the war in Iraq.
And furthermore, the trial produced no information about the war in Iraq.
Zilch, zero, nada.
And yet, as I predicted, because I know these people, last night on all the cable network channels, all we heard about was how this totally debunks the Iraq war.
Bush lied, people died, confirmed all that.
It did no such thing.
It is stunning.
It is profound just how devoid of fact the Democrat Party from Dingy Harry to Nancy Pelosi on down to their allies in the drive-by media are pushing a fraudulent version of not only the trial, but of what the contents of the trial were and what the meaning of the verdict is.
So we have the media rooting for more charges, rooting for more guilty verdicts, rooting to destroy Republican officials, rooting to destroy this White House.
And in the process, they don't even really care if it damages their own profession.
And they're out there saying, well, you know, we're a little worried now.
Um sources may not be as open with us.
Uh-uh, day.
Well, they don't really they must mustn't be worried too much about it.
Uh, because to them the end justifies the uh the means in all of this.
It's it's just it's uh it's it's incredibly frustrating.
Uh and very sad, ladies and gentlemen, to see all of this come down the pike.
Uh now you turn on Conan O'Brien the other night, and guess who shows up on Conan O'Brien?
Another fraud, Al Gore.
NBC's now using comedy shows to advance the Lib Democrat advan agenda here.
Al Gore, who is in the process of being discredited and is is uh is already a laughing stock with millions of Americans is becoming an even larger one with all these carbon offsets and this uh you know now he's got PETA out there saying, hey, Al Gore, you can't be a meat-eating environmentalist.
You gotta give up meat if you want to be a genuine environmentalist.
The people are nuts.
We got people out there now saying that you there are there are uh uh uh green ways to have sex.
There are ways to have sex that will improve the environment or not damage the environment.
These people are idiots.
They are living, breathing, literal idiots out there.
And of course they are credited with care and concern and all of the uh great compassion.
But here's the problem.
The libs and the Democrats have created a permanent part of our government.
Courts, the bureaucracy, institutions of higher learning, and the media.
They have taken control of much of the country's basic fabric.
And what it means is that it's becoming more and more difficult to reach them through elections.
Even if we win elections, we don't get rid of the liberal establishment that is in academia, for example.
We don't get rid of the liberal establishment that is in the drive-by media.
And more and more we don't get rid of it uh where's as it's taken root uh in the courts, and of course, the bureaucracy.
We talked about this yesterday.
People were saying, well, you know, Bush is the boss of all these people CINAH State Department.
No, he's not.
There are there are career lib people in those agencies that have been there for years, they're gonna stay there for years, they aspire to these kind of jobs.
No matter who you elect, you don't get rid of them.
No matter who we elect, you don't get rid of college presidents and faculty.
No matter who we elect, we don't get rid of the media.
So, and this is this is it, this is uh actually a very strategically well done move on the part of the left.
Uh they have made sure that elections can't touch them.
They've made, they've done everything they can because they can't trust elections.
They don't trust the electorate.
They don't trust the electorate to empower them.
Uh uh it's it's it's just what it is.
Uh, and it's it's gonna require an ever-increasing vigilance uh to continue to educate as many people in this country as to just what has happened over a number of decades, what continues to happen.
The media is pushing uh for this prosecution.
They pushed for uh well, they're pushing for the Cheney to be included, and they pushed for the Libby prosecution.
They pushed during Watergate, they pushed during Iran Contra, they pushed back during Clinton.
In fact, uh, we have a little uh little sound.
What do I want to go here?
Let's go to number five.
We have a montage here, Katie Kurick, Robin Roberts, and Kelly O'Donnell.
Now, now listen, this is all from last night and this morning uh as they report the Libby verdict.
Skidder Libby is convicted in the CIA leak case, the highest ranking White House official found guilty of a felony since the Iran Contra scandal.
The highest ranking White House official to be convicted since the Iran Contra affair.
The highest ranking White House official convicted since the Reagan era and the Iran Contra scandal.
Notice what they left out of there.
There were dozens of convictions in the Clinton era.
Remember Webb Hubble, just for one.
How about Clinton himself?
He was not technically convicted of perjury, but a federal judge found him in contempt of court for it, and they withdrew his law like look at the penalty Clinton got.
He lost his license to practice law in Arkansas.
Yep, yep, yep, yep, yahoo.
He had a fine of something like $90,000.
Yep, yep, yep, yep, yahoo.
Uh he uh uh uh was uh his privileges to argue before the Supreme Court were taken away, which he had never done, and which he had never attended.
Scooter Libby is going to prison.
So they they uh you know push push for all this.
They prosecution, they push during Watergate, push during Iran-Contra, pushed back during the Clinton impeachment.
Uh drive-by media that uh has become Democrat Party activists need to remain uh our focus.
That and uh any, any individual reporter.
The bottom line is that what happened with Scooter Libby was an injustice.
The liars are getting rich and famous.
Libby was crushed by a rogue prosecutor trying to make a name for himself and actually targeting someone else.
And that would be Vice President Cheney.
A brief time out, folks.
We'll come back and continue, share with you some of the other sound bites on this, some of the other interesting items in the news, actually about it, right after this.
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Joe Wilson.
Last night on Larry King Live, King said, What do you feel?
How do you feel tonight, Joe?
Valerie in particular will sleep better tonight than she has the last several nights.
It proves that the system works, that this is a nation of laws, and no individual is above the law.
I think the judge and the prosecution and the uh and the jury acted uh in the very best um best manner of uh of American citizens doing their civic duty.
You are a sick psychopathic liar, sir.
You are just sick.
You are living a lie.
I don't even know if Joe Wilson understands it anymore that he's living a lie so immersed in it is he.
This trial was not about his wife.
This trial was not about him.
It should have been.
This trial was not about anything to do with outing her as a CIAA.
There is no reason Valerie Plame should have not been sleeping well up till the verdict, and there's no reason why she should be sleeping better last night and tonight after the verdict, because this was not about her.
Nobody, Joe Wilson, was charged with leaking her name.
We know who did it, and your best buds with the guy who did it, Armitage.
Talking about, you know, Fitzgerald goes out there yesterday and says, We people have come forward and tell the truth.
You have Mr. Armitage, are you listening?
Uh Mr. Fitzgerald, are you interested in who had the truth?
No, you didn't even subpoena the guy.
You knew who it was.
The Justice Department knew who it was before this all started.
This trial had nothing to do with Iraq.
It has nothing to do with Joe Wilson and uh and and uh his wife, other than the independent counsel attempting to convince the jury that it did.
And of course the jury fell for it.
Hook line and sinker.
Last night on uh nightline, Wilson reacted to the verdict.
I look at the prosecution and the conviction of Mr. Libby, um, much as uh I would look at the prosecution and conviction of Al Capone.
He was convicted of tax evasion, but that didn't mean he wasn't a racketeer.
Scooter Libby did not leak your wife's name.
Scooter Libby is not who put your wife's name in play.
You did, Mr. Wilson, when you listed her in your own entry in the in the book, Who's Who in America.
How he gets in there is a inconsequential matter to me is still curious, but nevertheless, uh Libby had nothing to do with this.
What are you guys feeling good about Libby going down for?
Libby had nothing to do with it's just confirms or perpetuates the lie that the Wilsons are living.
Here's uh here's Tim Russert last night on the NBC Nightly News.
Brian Williams talked to him and uh said the title Star Witness was applied to you.
What's your reaction?
I take no joy in this, Brian.
It was not our doing.
We didn't ask to be involved.
Uh, but when you are asked to testify under oath, you tell the truth.
Uh I am concerned that that we not create a pattern of having journalists called forward in cases in the future.
Well, of course.
Of course.
Drive-by's want to be able to drive by.
Drive-bys want to be able and drop the bombs and keep going.
Drive-bys want to be able to drive by, lob rounds into crowded room, and then drive on.
The drive-bys don't want to be stopped.
The drive-by's don't want to be interrogated.
The drive-by's don't want to be questioned.
The drive-bys don't want any analysis of what they do.
They don't want any investigations of what they do.
They don't want any hearings into what they do.
No, no, no, no.
They just want to drive on by after lobbing all the ammo and the explosives into a crowd, creating a huge mess, sometimes destroying people, and they just head on down the highway in the convertible, ready to do it again.
Tim Russert said he takes no joy in this, but remember when the indictment came down, it was Russert who said that they all felt like it was Christmas morning when the indictment came down.
Now back to Joe Wilson.
Um and for those of you on left uh who are automatically predisposed to to not believe anything anybody says other than people on your side, let me read to you from today's Washington Post editorial, which is subheadlined The Serious Consequences of a Pointless Washington Scandal.
The fall of this skilled and long respected public servant, Scooter Libby is particularly sobering because it arose from a Washington scandal remarkable for its lack of substance.
It was propelled not by actual wrongdoing, but by inflated and frequently false claims, and by the aggressive and occasionally reckless response of senior Bush administrations, administration officials culminating in Libby's perjury.
Joe Wilson was embraced by many because he was early in publicly charging the Bush administration had twisted, if not invented facts in making the case for war against Iraq.
But wait till you hear what else they say about Joe Wilson.
That's coming up right after this.
I know.
Thank you, ladies and gentlemen.
Welcome back.
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I have two Washington Post stories today, both indict Joe Wilson as a lying fraud.
And the Post says in an editorial he'll be remembered as nothing more than a blow hard.
Listen to this.
And remember who we're talking about here.
We're talking about the single credible source the left has on this.
Joe Wilson.
The left, I think, is as psychopathically involved in a in a in a lie as an alternative reality as Wilson and his wife have become.
Mr. Wilson was embraced by many because he was early in publicly charging the Bush administration had twisted, if not invented, facts in making the case for the war against Iraq in conversations with journalists, or in a July 6, 2003 op-ed, he claimed to have debunked evidence that Iraq was seeking uranium from Niger.
He suggested he had been dispatched by Mr. Cheney to look into the matter and allege that his report had circulated at the highest levels of the administration.
However, remember now I'm reading to you from the Washington Post.
A bipartisan investigation by the Senate Intelligence Committee subsequently established that all of these claims were false.
A bipartisan investigation.
Senate Intelligence Committee established that every one of Joe Wilson's claims were false.
And that Mr. Wilson was recommended for the Niger trip by his wife, Mrs. Plaim, or Ms. Plame, not the vice president, not the administration.
How many of you watched any cable news last night and heard any of this referenced?
None of you heard any of this referenced.
When this fact that uh Wilson was recommended for the trip by his wife, along with Miss Plame's name was disclosed in a column by Robert Novak, Wilson advanced yet another sensational charge that his wife was a covert CIA operative, and that senior White House officials had orchestrated the leak of her name to destroy her career and thus punish Mr. Wilson.
Another sensational charge, none of which is true.
Yet it forms the actual foundation for all of the drive-by media's reporting on this story before, during, and after the trial.
They persist in making the trial about all of these lies.
The partisan furor over this allegation led to the appointment of Patrick Fitzfong.
Yet after two years of investigation, Mr. Fitzfong charged nobody with a crime for leaking Miss Claim's name.
In fact, he learned early on that Novak's primary source with Richard Armitage, an unlikely tool of the White House.
He was against White House policy.
The trial has provided convincing evidence there was no conspiracy to punish Wilson by leaking his wife's identity, and no evidence, in fact, that she was covert.
Yet the thrust of reporting by the drive-by media is just the opposite.
That there was a conspiracy in the White House to discredit Wilson by exposing his wife's covert status to destroy her career.
It's All lies.
A jury came to a conclusion in this case, having been told this set of lies by the prosecution, or having been implied by the prosecution.
No convincing evidence.
The trial was not about Iraq.
No evidence that there was a conspiracy to punish Wilson from the White House.
It would have been sensible for Mr. Fitzgerald to end this investigation after learning about Armitage.
But instead, like many Washington special prosecutors before him, he pressed on, pursuing every tangent in the case.
In so doing, he unnecessarily subjected numerous journalists to the ordeal of having to disclose confidential sources or face imprisonment.
If I may take a break on this, the drive-bys were pushing this.
The drive-by's wanted this.
They wanted this independent investigation.
Like look at PMS NBC.
Verdict puts new focus on Iraq.
It does no such thing.
The verdict has nothing to do with Iraq.
Now the drive-by's are going to act like it does.
The Democrats are going to act like it does.
They are acting like it does.
And of course, the administration will go defensive and react as though it does, but it doesn't.
We are truly in the twilight zone here.
Mr. Wilson's case concludes the Washington Post has been besmirched or has mismirched nearly everybody it touched.
The former ambassador will be remembered as a blowhard.
I wonder why the Washington Post thinks that.
He's a hero.
I almost muttered an F-word obscenity there.
I'm really frosted about this, folks.
I'm doing my best to restrain, but I am I can't tell you how frosted I am, but I am literally frusted about this.
This Wilson is the biggest sicko fraud come down the pike in I don't know how long, and he's a hero, and he's getting rich.
The liars and the guilty are getting rich and they're becoming famous.
They're being held up as icons by a sick political movement known as liberalism and its political party, the Democrats.
Not going to be remembered as a blowhard.
They're going to do everything they can to get his picture on a dollar bill.
Mr. Cheney, Mr. Libby were overbearing in their zeal to rebut Mr. Wilson and careless in their handling of classified information.
That's I'm not even going to go into all that, but uh, because we we we've done it, but uh I still don't know where it's written that the White House cannot respond to its critics.
Mr. Fitzgerald has shown again why handling a uh or handing a Washington political case to a federal prosecutor is a prescription for excess.
Mr. Fitzgerald was at least right about one thing.
The Wilson Plaim case and Libby's conviction tell us nothing about the war in Iraq.
But don't tell that to the drive-by media.
Don't tell that to the Democrat Party, because this conviction tells us everything at just the tip of the iceberg, Howard.
Oh, yeah.
Even though Fitz Fong says there's no further investigation, it's uh it's it's uh it's it's over.
Unless somebody else comes forth with some uh you know earth-shattering information.
Is it just the tip of the iceberg, Howard Dean's out saying?
Now, another Washington Post story, this by Walter Pinkis.
Um, but this not published today.
I want to go back to this whole business of British intelligence.
And the uh the sixteen words in the President's State of the Union speech in which he talked, and they took him out, by the way, apologize for my guess, uh, talking about the uh uh uh Iraqi effort to purchase yellow cake uranium from Niger.
Now remember, this is uh Thursday of July 15th of 2004.
For example, British intelligence based its pre-war 2002 assessment that Iraq was seeking uranium in Africa on reports that Baghdad had made such inquiries in the Congo and in Niger more than two years earlier, according to the Butler report.
This is the this is somebody working for the United Nations.
It showed that British and CIA intelligence were relying on a similar, though less than conclusive report that Iraqi officials actually reports that Iraqi officials had visited several African countries in 1999.
When it came to Niger, whose main export was uranium, the uh JIC judged that uh Iraqi purchase of uranium could have been the subject of discussions, the Butler report said.
However, based on what was known in 2002, the Butler panel concluded that references In Britain's September 2002 dossier that Iraq was seeking to buy uranium and in Africa throughout Africa and its reputation uh repetition in Bush's State of the Union address in January 2003 were well founded.
The Brits have never recanted on their assumption that the Iraqis were purchasing uh uh nuclear materials, not just in Niger but in the Congo, which is why, in the President's 16 words, he used the word Africa.
So Wilson's wife gets him appointed to go over there and debunk this whole thing.
Wilson comes back, writes an op-ed in the New York Times, full of lies about it.
The lies exposed by a bipartisan Senate intelligence committee, uh intelligence committee, the Washington Post today basically throwing Wilson overboard, and yet he's hoisted as a hero throughout much of the drive-by media.
Um here, by the way, let's look, let's listen to Howard Dean.
This is last night on the CNN situation room with the Wolf Blitzer.
Uh Wolf says, You say the president would make a mistake in pardoning uh Scooter Libby.
Why?
That's been done before, as you know, especially around the Iran Contra uh times.
Uh the problem is that Scooter Libby now has a a great incentive to tell what else was going on in the vice president's office.
Don't forget, this is the tip of the iceberg.
This is about the president and the vice president trying to discredit people who turned out to be right about the war in Iraq.
Uh and uh they didn't Scooter Libby didn't do this all by himself.
The best way that the president has to shut Scooter Libby up before sentencing uh is to pardon him.
I hope that uh will not happen.
As those they they think the scooter's gonna flip, the scooter's got something to flip about.
As scooter's gonna flip and he's gonna give up Cheney, he's gonna give up uh Bush on what?
They lied about the we know that Wilson lied.
Don't trust me, it's in the Washington Post, the Senate Intelligence Committee, bipartisan.
Wilson lied, folks.
There was in fact the CIA later said that the stuff he came back and told him actually confirmed what had been uh in intelligence about uh Iraq and Niger, as the Iraqis were attempting to reconstitute their nuclear program in defiance of all those UN resolutions.
Uh tip of the iceberg, this is about the president and vice president trying to discredit people who turned out to be right.
Joe Wilson wasn't right about anything.
He hasn't been right about anything since, Howard.
You guys are living a lie.
You've told this lie so often to protect yourselves from an embarrassing vote.
You are now living a lie.
And you are living a lie in pretty much every aspect of your day.
And this is just the tip of the iceberg of the lie that Democrats and the media and the left in this country are living each and every day, and it is going to cost us unless something's not done about it.
We'll be back.
Stay with us.
We have more on Joe Wilson, then we'll get to Patrick Fitzgerald in just a moment.
But uh, I want to make sure phone calls in here because I don't want to have people waiting for an hour and a half or two hours here before they get to go on the program.
We'll start in Fredericksburg, Virginia with Susan.
Great to have you.
Nice to have you on the EIB network, Susan.
Thank you, Rush.
I have always had a desire to be involved in public service.
Always thought that I would run for office, maybe the Board of Education.
Maybe something like that, just to get involved with public service.
But I will tell you that when that verdict came in yesterday, I literally felt sick to my stomach.
And I'm thinking.
And people like me are watching.
People like me who are just, I'm a stay-at-home mom, husband's in the military, very active in my kids' school, would love to run for office.
Why would I?
Why would I put myself out there?
They're gonna they're gonna go through my taxes.
If they can't find anything on me, they'll make it up.
Just like they did on Skidderlibby, just with the what they did with you when you landed from another country and customs was waiting for you.
I can't imagine what your life is like.
You know, looking over your back, even though you're not doing anything wrong.
You know they're waiting for you.
Why would anyone why would anyone want you to make the public service?
Let me let me explain this to you.
I'll I'll I'll do this.
Actually, this is a this is a good question.
Um and I I uh I I'd like for you to change the term.
Get rid of public service.
That that that's that's one of these civics 101 terms that that uh and you hear a lot of people in public service, oh, I want to do public service.
I want to give back to my community.
I want to that's all BS.
This is activism, Susan.
When liberals join the government, when they join bureaucracies, it is activism.
It's not public service.
They're not out there doing anything to serve the public.
They're doing things out there to control the public.
They are attempting to amass power.
The reason why I am so upset over people like Scooter Libby, and I can the list is long is because there are courageous people on our side who are trying to stop them.
Ronald Reagan tried to stop them, and he did.
Richard Nixon tried to.
There's any number of them that try to stop them.
And they're willing to take the risks because they too believe.
It's not public service.
It's about activism on both sides.
It's about believing with passion what you think is best for the country and going to the places necessary to make those things possible.
In addition to people like Scooter Libby and Cheney and Rumsfeld and all these other people, Connoleza Rice, who are now public enemy number one, they are there precisely because they are doing what they think is best for the country and they are trying to stop this encroachment among the left by the left in all these institutions that are out of reach of elections, the courts, the bureaucracies, the agencies, um institutions of higher learning.
So forget that's why this is serious stuff.
And that's why Republicans and conservatives are being criminalized simply for being Republicans and conservatives.
It is now a crime.
This verdict means it's a crime to be a Republican.
And I understand what you're saying.
A lot of people who are wishy-washy about it, who do look at it as public service, they're gonna stay away from it.
Uh it doesn't pay that much either.
Doesn't pay that well, considered if talented people anyway, what they can get in the private sector.
So there are a lot of reasons for people not to go into it, but those that do are doing it because they understand they'll you'll never hear them say this for obvious reasons.
I can say it because I'm not among them.
They're doing it to try to head off this attempted takeover and hijacking of this country by the American left and totally remake it in ways that would make it appear unlike anything our founders envisioned.
And that's why I get so frosted about this.
One of the reasons that the Democrats politicize or criminalize policy matters in Washington is because they know that they can get juries just like this.
In Washington, D.C., you can make a Republican a criminal simply by being a Republican.
Now, this is going to require a little bit more sophisticated behavior on the part of Republicans and conservatives who go into all this, as you call it public service.
Um they have to know their targets, and you can't make friends with these people.
Uh, and as Clarice Feldman wrote, The American Thinker Today, you cannot deal with them by taking the high road and being, you know, go going through the down down the road of probity.
You can't sit there and say, as president, okay, anybody in my administration found guilty or of leaking is out.
You can't say that.
Bill Clinton would never say that.
If somebody in an agency tried to undercut the Clinton administration, that person was sought out, found, and dispatched, and gotten out of there.
Republicans are just not ruthless.
Conservatives are not ruthless in many cases.
So long we have been in the minority, so long we've been on the defensive that we think that we can forge a new way by getting along, by showing these people we intend them no harm or all of this garbage.
But people like Libby and others who engage this to fight the fight, uh, are not doing it for public service.
They're doing it because they believe in ideas, passionately so.
They are, if anything, serving the country and what their ideals for the country are.
You might want to say they're serving the public, but that's a it's a whole misnomer.
If you want to join the school board, the reason for doing it is not for public service.
The reason is because your school board screwed up and needs to be fixed, and somebody needs to stand up and say it's screwed up and fix it, and is willing to take the arrows that are going to come your way.
If you don't want to do it, then don't.
And I'm sorry to be yelling at you, I'm not yelling at you.
But if you don't want to do it, get out of it.
You say, how do what is living my I have a great life.
I never imagined I'd have a life like that.
Yeah, I'm a target.
I have to make modifications in the way I live, but I understand that I'm a target in many ways.
But as I've as I've said Susan countless times, after the incident you described and many others, I'm still here because you're still there.
I'm still here because my audience, who listen to me daily and know who I am and what I am, know that all the garbage said about me is untrue, and you've stood there and defended me.
And this is what doesn't happen enough in Washington with other public officials who get in trouble.
Conservatives run for the tall grass and don't want the prosecutor coming after them.
We'll be back in just a second.
Sadly, my friends, we have to stop for just a second, just a short while.
Lots more straight ahead.
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