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Feb. 6, 2007 - Rush Limbaugh Program
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February 6, 2007, Tuesday, Hour #3
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And greetings to you once again, thrill seekers, music lovers, conversationalists.
All across the fruited plan, Rush Limbaugh, the final hour of broadcast excellence this week is hosted by me.
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This is uh story from the UK Times.
There's so many great stories coming out of the UK these days.
This is the Times.
Telling someone they're fat shows a kind of contempt.
A court said on Tuesday.
The Suwan District Court find a hospital administrator identified by initial J, 300,000 won.
Wait a minute.
This is not the London Times.
This is uh I don't know, it's it's Thailand?
By gee, by G Stuk.
Well, anyway, what happened is a hospital administrator uh uh was fined 300,000 won.
What what currency is won the country uh?
Anyway, if we're making derogatory comments about one of the nurses at his workplace, the 60 sear old 66-year-old hospital guy, uh, told a 38-year-old nurse last January in the hospital lobby in front of her colleagues.
How can you nurse someone when you're so fat?
You're a patient too.
And if you don't look after yourself, you'll die.
Many people have been convicted of showing contempt by swearing at a person, but it's difficult to prove contempt when a person talks about another's appearance.
You know, we we keep track of these things all across the country and the globe because they will spread uh and eventually become commonplace, particularly with Supreme Court so focused on foreign law.
Oh, it's Chinese.
It it no W-A-W-O-N is the not J-U or Y-U-A-N.
Uh W-O-N is the these names are not Chinese.
Uh I'm guessing it's Thailand.
Bangkok.
Do you know, folks, something about Bangkok?
There are more prostitutes per capita in Bangkok than any city in the world.
And I find that just I've always found that fascinating.
We look at at the Bangkok uh just who would believe it.
Senator John Carey, this is a story from yesterday's stack, keeps to himself around the campus of the New York Times.
He's always rushing somewhere, head down, disappearing into elevators, a Senate loner for 22 years.
Mr. Carey seems all the more isolated now as he darts past the media hordes around the next set of presidential seekers.
Colleagues that include Hillary and McCain and Barack Obama, even in the best of times.
Now, this is the New York Times writing this.
Even in the best of times, Mr. Carey's face hung droopy and funereal.
One of the most weary faces in American politics today.
Mr. Carey, the Massachusetts Democrat, who was the exit poll president elect for a few hours in November.
The exit poll, it's South Korean currency.
We just it's South Koreans.
That's a story out of South Korea.
Uh the uh uh the exit poll president-elect for a few hours.
Who has ever been called that?
The New York Times refers to John Kerry as the exit poll president-elect for a few hours in November 2004 endures the particular pariah status that his party reserves for its losing nominees.
Outsiders time won't let me.
John Kerry.
The exit poll president-elect for a few hours.
In 2004, New York Times with an editorial today.
You know, we've been watching.
We've been watching the price of corn, ladies and gentlemen.
It's causing uh poverty, strife, near riots in Mexico, uh, as the uh the food staple at tortilla is skyrocketing in price.
The New York Times editorial today's entitled The Price of Corn.
Uh and basically, to summarize the editorial, they don't care a whit about the Mexicans who are struggling with rising tortilla prices.
They don't care.
Energy efficiency and energy alternatives.
That's the key.
We need ethanol, and their advice is to basically eat less.
Eat less food that uses corn.
The current price of corn, 323 a bushel, more than half again what it was a year ago, beginning to bring to mind the record five to five forty-five a bushel set in July of 1996.
It's tempting to assume that the effect of sharply higher prices is confined primarily to the ag sector, but where corn is concerned, we are all part of the ag sector.
The historical cheapness of corn has driven it into nearly as every aspect of our economy in the form, most familiarly, of corn syrup.
The low price of corn over the past half century lies at the very foundation.
Get this of America's historically and unrealistically low food prices.
Not only is gasoline too cheap in this country, now corn is and always has been, according to the New York Times.
But we are entering a new dynamic now.
Well, there has been talk recently about refining ethanol from sources other than corn.
That would take a while.
So at the moment, what we are trying to do is gratify those appetites from the same resource.
Agricultural land, no matter how prices go, how high they go, what will need to change isn't the amount of corn acreage available.
What will need to change is the size of our appetites.
This, folks, is a heartless, heartless attack on poor people around the world who rely on corn as their food staple.
The New York Times is basically saying, pht you, because we need the corn for ethanol.
And we need higher prices on corn so people will eat less of it.
Uh what was this business week?
And they're February 5th.
Food versus fuel as energy demands devour crops once meant for sustenance.
The economics of agriculture are being rewritten.
Greg Borboom raises 37,000 pigs a year on his farm in Marshall, Minnesota.
Those hogs eat a lot of corn, ten bushels each from weaning to sale.
In past years, he has bought feed for about two dollars a bushel.
But since late summer, average corn prices have leapt to nearly $4 a bushel.
To reduce feed costs, he sells his pigs before they reach the normal 275 pounds.
He keeps them warmer so they don't do I wonder how that's working this week.
Remember, he's in Minnesota.
He keeps the pigs warmer so that they don't devour more food, fighting off the cold.
Still Greg Borboom hopes just to break even.
It's been a pretty tight squeeze on pork producers the next eight months will be really, really tough.
The spike in the price of corn that's hurting Boar Boom and other pork producers isn't caused by any big dip in the overall supply.
In the U.S. last year's harvest was ten and a half billion bushels, the third largest crop ever, but instead of going into the mouths of pigs or cattle or people, an increasing slice of that supply is being transformed into fuel for cars.
The roughly five billion gallons of ethanol made in 2006, consume nearly one-fifth of the corn crop.
If all the scores of factories under construction or planned to go into operation, fuel will gobble up no less than half the entire corn harvest by 2008.
And then you wait and see what the tortilla price does.
Ha!
You think that my God, it's immigration's gonna skyrocket the numbers we haven't seen.
Corn is uh caught in a tug-of-war between ethanol plants and foods.
One of the first signs of a coming agricultural transformation and a global economic shift.
It's a long story goes on with more numbers and so forth, but the basic point is.
I mean, in 2010, 2008, half the corn crop will be going to your automobile and other fuels.
I'm telling you, we're gonna have riots over this stuff in these poor countries.
It's gonna happen, and it's it's these liberals that have a oneness with the common man and the poor.
They blame the United States for stealing all the world's resources, raping the planet of all its goodies so that we can engage in slothful, lazy, rich lifestyles.
And for this we need to be punished.
We are but what?
Uh 5% of the world's population, they say, and we use 25% of the world's goodies.
We need to be taught a lesson.
And so they um we ought to be taxed, and we ought to assign a Kyoto Accord, we'll help out the third world, the poor people of the world, and very the same liberals who want us to go into alternative fuels, the ethanol like this are gonna result or cause the result to be that the poor will get even poorer, the hungrier will become more famished.
And the price of tortillas will equal that of caviar.
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This is Louisa in Chicago.
Your next hello.
Hello.
Um, Rush?
Yeah.
I was just wondering, I mean, I know you just talked about alternative fuel in the in the form of coal, but you know, I was thinking just alternative fuel in general.
Why are you so against it?
I mean, these people are trying to, you know, do things, make things you know, new inventions, whatever.
And I think that isn't that part of America, the way that they just try to do things.
And you know, I've I've heard you talk about, like, say, for instance, um, solar energy.
And the reason why you don't like solar energy is because you don't want panels on your roof.
But, you know, this just sounds like never said that.
Where where are you picking this stuff up that I've said?
Oh, this was this was a couple years ago.
I remember you saying that.
And I was like, why on earth is he saying that?
Because I s what I said was when I bought a house in Sacramento, it had solar panels on it.
Oh.
They were mandated.
Oh.
Had to be there, and I was told it was going to save on all the electricity.
And it didn't make it, it didn't save anything.
It was it was just a bunch of field do-gooderism that uh that that never amounted to anything.
I'm not against any alternative fuel.
Okay.
What I am what I'm against is the way the people who present the idea to you are able to seduce you into thinking that there's some magic formula for an alternative fuel that's gonna enable us to get rid of oil.
And that is not the case, Louisa.
Uh I'm all for entrepreneurism and ingenuity, creativity.
But so far in the alternative fuel sector, we haven't seen anything that will come anywhere near replacing fossil fuels.
Okay, but but wouldn't you say then instead of like mocking them and stuff, we say, well, back to the drawing board.
You know, let's just I mean it's a good try.
Like, I remember you saying something about didn't like the electric car because it didn't go fast enough.
No, because nobody wanted it.
And and Al Gore and Washington were trying to mandate that people buy the thing when nobody wanted it.
That is not entrepreneurship.
That's big government forcing people to do things that they don't want to do that hurt their lives.
It's all all that's embodied in global warming.
Look, I am not here to praise good intentions.
Yeah.
I am here to praise good works.
I am here to praise and support things that actually work.
If somebody has the great intention of getting rid of oil and they come up with something like recycled bubblegum and people like you fall for it because they care and they're trying to clean the I worry about you falling for this kind of stuff.
We are a growing, burgeoning economy.
We have people who have needs and demands.
This country cannot afford anybody telling it that we ref we have no room for growth, that we are too rich, that we are too prosperous.
This country leads the world, it protects the world, it feeds the world.
We have that is our leadership requirement as the leaders of the free world.
We need to make sure that we remain big and strong so that we can defend the rest of the world as well as ourselves.
And I am all for alternative fuels, and I am all for clean air, and I'm all for clean water.
But if somebody's going to come up with a cockammy idea that is designed to get unsuspecting people to support higher taxes, big government, and clunky lawnmower cars that nobody wants to drive, I am not going to praise their intentions.
I'm going to try to alert people like you that you are being had.
They're trying to blame you, Louisa, and the way you live for the pollution and the damage and all this, and they want you to change your lifestyle or revise it downward on the basis that you are making some great contribution to fixing all the messes that you as an American have created.
And I say, bunk, it's not happening.
That's not the r reality of the way this country is or our people.
And if somebody comes up with a genuine alternative fuel, and I'll tell you when this is going to happen.
When somebody finally is able to tell us that we've only got, say, fifty years of oil left, that's when you're going to see people get cranken.
But right now, fossil fuels are the are the fuel of the engine of freedom and democracy and world economy, and there's nothing that's going to change it for 200 to 300 years, if then.
Okay, but okay, just remember that what Thomas Alva Edison tried 150 times to make the perfect light bulb.
So we have to at least give these people a chance to do that.
By the way, back to the drawing board again.
Wait a second.
Yeah.
You are not listening to me because if you were, you would have already agreed with me, you would have apologized and say that you now see the world in the right light.
But you keep going.
I don't want government mandate, for sure.
Well, you may not want to, but you're gonna get them with this kind of head in the sand attitude.
I'm trying to help you here.
Now look, Thomas Edison, 150 times to make the light bulb, right?
Something like that.
Guess what they're doing now?
Thomas Edison is a villain.
Thomas Edison's light bulbs only burn five percent of the energy they use.
They're terribly inefficient.
You've got to go get these new fluorescent light bulbs and put them in your house so that you don't pollute the planet, Luis.
Are you gonna go do that?
Are you gonna say Edison sucks?
Edison was disaster for this country.
You're gonna say that because that's what they want you to say next.
No, no, I I call them curly Q light bulbs.
I think they're kind of cute.
And it's just weird because they they tell me that it's gonna save me 45 dollars, but I'm sitting there saying 45 dollars over what amount of time.
I I'm never because they don't spend it.
Hang on, hang on, hang on.
You are a reclamation project worth sticking with.
Uh don't go away.
Uh and that's that's what we deliver here on the EIB network.
It is up to you to accept it.
Hello.
Welcome back.
Uh my good friends, uh as usual, talent on lawn from God.
We now rejoin Louisa in Chicago.
You are being unusually contentious with me, despite the fact I'm taking valuable broadcast time to teach you that I'm not what you think.
I haven't said what you've been told.
Oh.
I'm sorry, I I didn't mean to be contentious.
I hope that's not a bad thing.
Well, mildly contented.
I mean, I've I've I've given you, I mean, uh wisdom, brilliance here.
And you d but but but you keep arguing, you know, like we're married.
Oh, no, no, no.
I'm just I'm just thinking, I mean, I'm I'm with you on on the fact that I don't want government to tell me to buy an electric car.
I'm I'm absolutely with you on that.
But by the same token, I don't want to discourage the people that are making the electric car because maybe sometime in the future they might come out with something better.
You know, that will go fast and that people will like.
The only thing that's gonna discourage the people from making the electric car is people not buying the electric car.
And people aren't and didn't buy the electric car, and so they were discouraged from making it.
But you know what?
That's called the market.
Right.
You know, there there are people that make products all the time that the country rejects.
And they might have had the greatest intentions in the world.
Uh-huh.
But but look at you know there they're just some realities that that we face here in this country.
Uh we are such an affluent country and we are so prosperous.
We have so much economic opportunity here that uh a record number of people are trying to access their piece of it and in the process the whole economic pie is growing.
And the people that are talking about reducing uh various aspects of American life, particularly in energy, are really trying to limit that growth.
It's like conservation.
Uh I've had calls from people say, Why are you against conserving energy?
I'm not.
Not at all.
But don't substitute conservation for growth.
We're not gonna have the energy needs we need in ten years or fifteen by simply conserving what we use today.
We're gonna have to find new sources of energy.
We're and and look at uh you've got people who claim that we need to end our dependence on foreign oil.
They are the same people that will not let us drill for oil uh within our own borders or right off our own borders in the Gulf of Mexico or in uh off California or in Alaska.
They are hypocrites.
And they are not they're they're statist, they are interested in having you feel as guilty as you can over your contribution to all this pollution and global warming and uh destruction or whatever, so that you'll go along with these newfangled ideas that don't work uh and uh and then go along with higher taxes and a bigger government through put limits on your lifestyle, i.e.
your freedom, all premised on the notion that this will make the world a better place.
It might.
It might.
And then and then um you know, as far as the corn is concerned and stuff like that, hopefully next year there'll be more corn growers so that the price will go down.
You know.
You know the the U.S. government controls this.
Oh, they control it.
They pay farmers not to grow crops.
It's called subsidies.
Oh God.
I hope they I hope they're I really do.
I hope that I hope we grow more corn.
And I you know what?
I hope we discover more oil.
You know what?
I hope you become a millionaire.
Oh, wouldn't that be wonderful?
And I j I hope the world loves each other someday.
I I hope we all get along.
Okay.
Well, I I'm not an environmentalist we echo.
I'm just trying to figure out I know you're not, but you're they're they're they're roping you in.
Okay.
You you might you you are one and you don't even know it.
You're buying hook, line, and sinker into all the trying to tug your heart with your emotional heart strings, and they're succeeding.
Sorry about that.
You think I'm the bad guy.
You think I'm against alternative You think I'm against it.
There's nobody more pro-America, pro-growth, pro-opportunity, pro-freedom than I am.
There is nobody who wants the best for every American than I do.
Okay.
All right.
Then tell them go back to the drawing board.
All you have to do is listen.
Okay.
They're not they're they're not interested in what I just said.
They don't believe that most Americans can achieve great things.
They look at most people with you know condescension and contempt.
That's why they think they need big government and benefit programs to help them because they can't do it themselves.
Well, I'm not for benefit programs.
You realize people aren't they're not smart enough, Louisa.
If people were really smart like the Liberals are, they'd are all we'd all be driving these little Priuses and these uh hybrids.
And we'd be driving the electric car.
Well, we're so stupid we refuse to.
So because of our stupidity, they're gonna make sure we end up on them anyway by making sure there's nothing else to be able to buy.
But aren't aren't the Priuses um the you know but I mean there's a limited quant quantity of Priuses, and that's why I mean I I heard that there's waiting lines for the Prius' already.
There are a lot there are a lot of gullible people who want to do their part to save the world.
Yeah.
They want and and by and they want status.
And driving a Prius and saving the world and not contributing to pollution makes them feel pretty good about themselves.
But it's not there's nothing realistic about it.
It's a purely emotional purchase and use.
I know I know with the Prius, um I I was tempted to to buy one.
Incredible.
I don't believe it.
The thing the thing the thing is is that it's so expensive that I don't think it would out it would um you know counter the cost of the gasoline.
So No, it doesn't it it wait till you have to replace the battery, Louisa.
You may as well go take out a second mortgage.
What?
What how old how old are you?
Me?
Oh, I don't like to talk about age.
I'm 40-ish, how's that?
Wow, you sound so much younger.
People tell me I have a young voice over the phone, yeah.
People tell you have a young voice on the phone.
Do you talk to a lot of people on the phone?
Um sometimes.
Yeah, it's it's I in my job I do, yeah.
All right.
What what color's your hair?
Oh my goodness.
I'm a brunette.
I kind of figured that, yeah.
It sounded like you're you sound like you're a brunette.
Oh, okay.
Five, six.
Four or nine.
Four nine.
That explains everything.
It explains everything.
That explains all of this.
Explains what?
No, uh but it just it just does.
It just explains everything.
Uh look it, I I've really enjoyed this.
I I hope some of this stuck.
Because I really am trying to help you here.
I'm I'm I'm I was speaking to you with the bottom of my heart.
I truly believe everything I said to you.
I do not.
I am not opposed to alternative fuels that work.
But I'm t how about these clods, these clowns that want windmills over the place, Louisa, except where they live.
Do you think this country can survive on windmill power?
I think the Dutch tried that.
The Dutch tried it, didn't work.
Windmills are now something only in portraits.
Uh-huh.
But but windmills could could be, you know, in addition to.
In addition to what's the matter with that?
I mean, if as long as they're trying, I mean, let them try.
What the heck?
What's up to you that whether they're trying or not?
I'm sorry.
No, you're not.
You know exactly what you're doing.
We love you.
We love you.
This has been a lot of fun, but try not to do too much damage to the country, okay?
I I'll try not to do it.
I'm just I'm just trying to evaluate things for myself, and just trying to just trying to evaluate things.
I think you've no, you you're past the evaluation stage.
You've got your you're made up.
Your mind's made up on this.
We've lost you.
You you've gone over to the the dark side.
No.
I hope not.
You have.
You don't even know it, but you have.
It's what I'm trying to tell you.
You fit the mold.
You have they have reached out and they have grabbed you, and you are substituting good intentions for progress.
Oh.
Oh well, I'm sorry.
I hope there's more corn growers next year, though.
So there is more corn growers next year.
That's Yeah.
Yeah.
so that they can benefit from a higher place.
How do you explain this to you?
Yeah, well, you know, I I hope they print more dollars.
Oh, God, no, I hope not.
I hope not they don't print more dollars.
I don't want to.
Well, I was just why not?
No, God, no.
It's inflation.
Well, wouldn't more corn.
Wouldn't more corn cause more inflation in corn.
Um, the thing is, if there's more corn, then the price will go down, right?
Because of the economics, right?
Well, that's not happening.
But right now it isn't.
But in the future, when more people are gonna grow corn, you know.
Let me tell you what's gonna happen with this corn business.
I just told you half the corn supply is gonna be used for uh for automobiles, and there's gonna be riots in the third world because those people it corn is like their bread.
It's like their wheat.
Uh and people in Mexico make four bucks a week.
Uh you have to pay three bucks for a tortilla?
Yeah.
You may as well just, you know, open a tortilla stand in a healabend, uh uh not healing, yeah, yeah, heal of in Arizona, Show, Arizona, whatever.
Uh, because they're coming.
They're coming.
And just remember what they're trying to do to Thomas Edison with these stupid fluorescent light bulbs.
They want you to think they want you to run around with a placard, downtown Chicago saying Edison sucks.
I have to run, Louisa.
Okay.
Call back any time.
Okay, thank you.
You bet.
Gave it everything I had.
I gave it everything I had.
What could I have done better, Mr. Snerdley?
What what it was could it uh uh attitude adjustment?
Could it be more patience?
Um it was hopeless, right?
It was a lost cause.
See, these are the things that but you stick with this, folks, because uh you never know.
A light will go off, not a fluorescent, an Edison will go off in her head uh six months from now, a year from now, and she'll be out there with a rush babe on board signed in her car.
You know, George Will has a column today called Inconvenient Kyoto Truths.
He points out that Clinton was the first to bring the Kyoto treaty.
Well, he didn't bring it.
Well he did bring it.
The Senate failed to ratify it, and the final vote was uh 95 to nothing.
Fifty-six of those ninety-five senators have voted against the Kyoto Protocol are still serving, and two of them are John Kerry and Barbara Boxer.
That is an inconvenient truth.
And his point is Bush, if he wants to let the world be really entertained, send the Kyoto Accords back to the Senate and let them start debating it again.
And let all these pro global warming, environmentalist wacko libs in the Senate, start debating it.
They voted against it when Clinton sent it up in 1995.
The uh research on it since then uh recommends it be voted against even more so than in 1995.
Uh as this little paragraph about ethanol and corn, ethanol produces just slightly more energy than it takes to manufacture it.
But now that the government is rigging energy markets with mandates, tariffs, and subsidies.
Ethanol production might consume half of next year's corn crop, which I told you moments ago.
The price of corn has already doubled in a year.
Hence the tortilla turbulence south of the border.
Forests are going to have to be cut.
Will fewer trees mean more global warming?
To clear land for growing corn, which requires fertilizer, the manufacture of which requires energy.
So because we're gonna go to ethanol, we might literally have to grow more corn, might have to and to cut trees and so forth to do it, which means we're gonna be doing everything the global warming people say we shouldn't be doing that leads to global warming to come with an alternative fuel.
That's cool, maybe.
Never tasted it.
But uh it's not the answer.
Corn producers love it, though.
I everybody has a self-interest in this stuff, folks, but you can't reward good intentions alone.
Uh Mark in Lancaster, Pennsylvania, welcome to the EIB network.
Hello.
Hi, Rosh, how are you doing?
Fine, sir.
Uh charter member of the vast right wing conspiracy, by the way.
Well, you're talking to the Mr. Big.
I have one of your mugs.
Thank you, sir.
Um I had I had a question.
Uh last night I was at work and I was eaten my lunch, mining my own business, and right away a couple of liberals start jumping on me.
Well, George Bush is an idiot.
Wait a minute.
What uh they just came you're just eating your lunch, doing nothing, you're not even talking to them, and he has jumped you?
Yeah, um, I'm sitting there reading the newspaper, and you know that well, we started talking about football, and then this guy's an Eagle fan, and I'm a cowboy fan.
And he says, uh uh yeah, he's he what do you expect from a cowboy fan and a George Bush lover?
And I said, What do you mean?
He said, Well, I I hate Bush.
I said, Well, give me a reason why.
Why why why do you hate Bush?
You know, and I learned this from you, you know.
I'm trying to trying to draw him out.
But and he couldn't give me nothing.
And then we get into Iraq and the economy, and I, you know, I'm giving him all the facts on the economy, you know, how it worked with JFK and Reagan and uh and Bush here, you know, you cut the taxes and stuff, and they can't give me nothing back.
So I start getting I get I get too wound up.
I'm too passionate about it.
I need to know from you how do I keep myself calm so I can argue with these people, because I just want to slap them in the head.
It doesn't sound like there was much of an argument if they weren't saying anything.
No, there's not, but but you you you can't convince them.
You know what I mean?
Well, don't expect to convince they're not even gonna even if you did convince them, they wouldn't give you the pleasure of n of uh of uh letting you know that you've convinced them while you're there.
Well then do I even waste my time even Yeah, you're wasting your time.
If you if you want to talk to you if your objective is to change their mind and persuade them, you're wasting your time.
The old saying, when you get into an argument with a fool, it's tough to tell the difference who's the fool.
Yeah.
Because when you get into an argument with idiots, you automatically have to go down to their level.
You have to be an idiot to talk to an idiot.
Right.
Well, I know I know you've you've talked before about you you gotta let them gotta let them discover it.
You know, you gotta let them for themselves.
It's a long process.
These guys may have closed minds and you may have opened them up now and then with what you said, but the best way to do it is is uh not not challenging them personally or calling them names or insulting McNabb or or any of that.
I didn't do that.
Well, there you guys an Eagle fan, right?
Yeah.
Uh so you know it's it's it's it's a tough thing.
I I um uh you you might even try, guys.
I don't want to talk with you about this.
Why not?
Well, it we're not gonna go anywhere.
You believe what you believe, I believe what I believe, and nothing I can say is gonna change your mind.
If you want to walk around ignorant and dumb uh and wrong and all this stuff, I've uh it it's a free country.
Feel free.
Okay.
That sounds good.
I gotta try and remember that.
Yeah, just uh and then if you do start discussing these things, uh just put it in the sense here's what I think.
And here's what I think, here's what I think.
Don't ask them questions, don't uh and and don't respond to well woo, don't don't accept the premise of any of their questions and don't don't ever go on defense.
Stay on offense, and I don't mean to be aggressive, but just here's what I think, this is what it is.
What about Bush and a ru.
Don't get off track.
Well, what do you mean with a bush in a rough?
Well, Bush like then Nate set the terms of the debate, and you and that's not you know, especially if their premises are false.
Why why waste your time with that?
And then just trust that you've done your best to express what's in your head.
I would advocate anybody do this anyway because it will help you uh uh to articulate what you think uh uh rather than just think it.
I mean, when you can speak what you think, that's where you do persuade people, and the more you do it, the better at it you get, and the more confident you get talking to dunderheads like this.
Yeah, and and I do.
I mean, I I have I get your letter, and I you know I read the news, I'm passionate about you know, I read plenty of books on president and you know I love Reagan.
In fact, I'm a Reagan Limbaugh conservative, just so you know.
Well, remember what Reagan did.
He just laughed at them.
Yeah, and I try to do that, but I just get so you know, you just get so mad at them.
I mean, how do you calm?
What do you do?
Give them the power to make you mad.
I know, and I don't want to let them see that.
Well, don't then.
Well, how do you how do you stay calm?
How do you what do you do?
Do you do you have a you do you hold your breath and count the number?
I don't know, no, no, no.
I don't I don't ever it doesn't get that far with me.
I just laugh at them.
Well, you know, I've just listened to your previous caller, and she sounded like a uh a seminar caller, by the way.
Well, I've got some people on that.
She was there's one reason that I kept her on as long as I did, you know.
No, I know.
You when people are making fools of themselves, you let them go.
No, no, no, no, that was not it.
Her voice.
One of the greatest radio voices.
Yeah, she did.
It's all about, yeah, but but no, she was she was even if she was a seminar caller, she might have been.
Uh she clearly called with an agenda and so forth, but still, it was an opportunity.
But in in my case, I'm not talking to her.
I've got twenty million people out there.
She's representing a point of view that a lot of people have.
So in explaining myself to her, I have the opportunity to explain myself to millions.
So she was she was a vehicle for me in that circumstance.
She was not just the focal point of my conversation.
Anyway, I have to run here.
Mark, I'm glad you called me back here and close it out in just a second, folks.
Ronald Reagan's birthday today, as we scan the horizon for the next Ronald Reagan.
All right, Roger Hedgecock here tomorrow and Wednesday.
Mark Belling on Friday, off to Pebble Beach for me.
Be back Monday.
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