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Dec. 22, 2006 - Rush Limbaugh Program
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December 22, 2006, Friday, Hour #2
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It's open line Friday.
Yes, here I am, my friend, serving humanity amidst billowing clouds of fragrant aromatic first and second hand premium cigar smoke.
We got all the other smoke out of the broadcast complex.
Had a big fire here this morning, a Christmas display, caught flames, When candle wax leaked on stuff that was flammable that shouldn't have been.
But all is well now.
We survived, and we are here.
Open line Friday.
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Questions, comments, complaints, jokes, whatever.
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I think we broke this story in terms of broadcast media.
We uh first to hear about it from the uh Channel 5 website in Raleigh, North Carolina.
Rape charges have been dropped in the Duke Lacrosse case, the DA down there, Mike Nyfong.
You talk about dumping news when nobody's paying any attention.
Well he thinks.
Well, but I mean, this is this is uh he could have done it Christmas Eve, uh, did it today.
He had a conversation with the accuser yesterday, and the accuser uh told him, told his investigator, uh, that she couldn't testify with certainty that she was raped.
Which just that that makes this even more incredible.
So uh anyway, the rape charges have been uh have been dropped, but the uh DA, Mike Nifong said he plans to proceed with kidnapping and sexual assault charges against the three players.
My guess uh this sounds to me like he is gradually trying to withdraw from this thing rather than do it all at once, um, trying to save a little face here and make it look like they're gonna say they still did something.
They maybe not in a rape her, but they kidnapped her, and there was definitely some sexual assault in there.
So uh it's definitely moving backwards for Naif Wong now.
And of course, without this woman's testimony, he couldn't have gone forward on the rape charges anyway.
And it's gonna, and they you know, uh the lineup was uh was a f was a fraud the way that was all handled.
Um and and the I don't know.
We had a story in the first hour, the Duke University's mobilizing its uh uh uh marshaling its forces to try to repair its image, and uh its image needs repair only because of the way Duke reacted to this.
Uh just assuming and presuming guilt at the first moment this case was charged, or even alleged before it was charged, uh, and throwing its own students under the bus.
And now they got to spend a whole lot of money to recapture their image because their recruitment is down.
Uh number of students.
And if you're a student, why would you want to go to Duke when you've got an administration like this?
You're the customer when you're the student.
And it is throw you under the bus at the first sign of any to protect their sacred image.
Uh this has been just an embarrassment from the moment it started, and there have there has been more than reasonable doubt from the moment this all started.
But this is again terrific example of how the drive-by media can get people all worked up into a chaotic frenzy.
Uh, with presumptions of guilt uh that were fueled by bigoted and prejudicial opinions.
White guys, rich white, oh, yeah, everybody plays lacrosse.
Why, they're elitist.
They're rich, they've gotten everything they want.
They've never had it tough.
They think they can rape people, particularly black women.
Get away with it.
Well, not anymore.
That's what drove a lot of the thinking in the drive-by media that these guys had to do it.
All it you know, with liberals, never forget this, folks.
It's not the nature of the evidence that turns them on.
It's the seriousness of the charge.
And in the drive-by media world and in the liberal world, this just fit a template that better than anything could.
The template consists of America is a bigoted, racist nation.
America is guilty of bigotry and racism and sexism.
The poor struggling to feed her kid dancer comes up and says she was raped and is trying to feed her kids and he got raped by these guys.
And of course, this is well, of course she did.
Well, why would she lie?
I mean, the seriousness of the charge.
Oh, what a great story we've got here that proves that the South and America are still in sin.
Still flawed, still imperfect.
It was just it was just made to order for the nature of the evidence was irrelevant.
It's the seriousness of the charge.
Let's go to the audio soundbites, the Sandy Burgler case.
You know, it's uh we got some some sound bites here on how this is being reacted to in the uh drive-by media, and also some some more details here from uh research that we did uh going back to 2004 when this thing all broke.
Surprisingly, CNN did a fairly good report on this uh situation room with Wolf Blitzer.
We have a montage of the reporter's report.
Her name is Kelly Arena.
In 2003, Berger snuck papers out of the archives building, all of them describing the Clinton administration's reaction to a terrorist plot to attack in 2000.
He says he walked out of the National Archives building with the documents stuffed in his pockets.
It was dark, and he headed this way.
He looked up and down the street, and then back at the windows of the National Archives Building, then at the Department of Justice, which just happens to be across the street.
There was some construction going on right about here.
Berger says that he went through the security fence and he placed the documents under a construction trailer.
Then he made his way back into the building to continue his work.
When Berger got the documents home, he cut three of them into small pieces and put them in the trash.
Two days later, when he was confronted about the missing documents, he says he tried to find the trash collector, but had no luck.
At first, Berger said he must have removed the documents accidentally or inadvertently.
Later on, it came clean.
If it had happened to them or anybody else, they would not have gotten away with this without having spent some serious time in jail.
She put that in her report on CNN.
That's me from yesterday's program.
Now, you know, of course, Burglar was out there saying that was inadvertent.
Um accidentally.
Hiding them underneath this uh this construction trailer.
Uh yesterday had several callers here uh challenging me on my speculation of what the document was.
Berger himself admitted it in the Washington Post in 2004, I think in uh dates are June 20th, 21st, or July 20th or 21st, whatever it was.
It was the Millennium After Action Review.
And, you know, all the details around this uh document theft may not be known for years.
Uh but you can go back and research some various things that have been written about this uh in 2004, and you can learn quite a bit.
Uh previous statements and testimony suggest the Clinton administration was well aware or should have been of an Al-Qaeda cell operating within the United States in 1999.
It was suggested that the administration act to take it out.
Not only did the Clinton administration fail to act, they failed to pass that information along to the incoming Bush administration.
John Ashcroft made this clear, this much clearer in his testimony before the 9-11 Commission.
Now, in a in a in a we don't want to say perfect world, but in a different world, all of this involving Sandy Berger and Al-Qaeda and all of these cells that the Clinton administration knew were in the country and didn't do anything about and didn't pass the information on to the Bush administration should be devastating to the candidacy of Hillary Clinton.
She should be asked about this at every campaign appearance.
It was thought, by the way, that this whole thing with Sandy Bergler would be damaging to the Kerry presidential candidacy.
Why?
Because Sandy Burglar was an advisor to the Kerry campaign at the time the theft took place.
And the uh the Democrats were fighting an image of being weak on terrorism, an image that they have earned and an image that survives to this day.
Burglar was working for Kerry at the time.
So the theories that were running around, uh-oh, maybe he did something here to spare the Democrats any embarrassment that could impact negatively on the Kerry campaign, or that he was legacy protecting uh for Bill Clinton and the entire Clinton administration.
Anyway, brief time out, more audio sound bites and some background on this when we come right back.
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All right, here we have uh first uh we got four basic uh stories here on the Sandy Burglar thing, just to remind you and put it all in um in context.
The uh National Security Council's uh Millennium After Action Review, this is the document that Sandy Burglar went in and took and did things to uh declares that the United States barely missed major terrorist attacks in 1999 with luck playing a major role.
Among the many vulnerabilities in homeland defenses identified, the Justice Department surveillance and FISA operations were specifically criticized for their glaring weaknesses.
It is clear from this review, the National Security Council Millennium After Action Review, that actions taken in the Millennium period, Y2K, should not be the operating model for the U.S. government.
People have seen that that portion of the document, that's what it says.
And this takes us back to the uh the thwarted attempt to uh have a terrorist incident at LAX, thwarted uh by an on-the-spot customs agent.
And the Clinton people were trying to say, and we had a quote from Clinton yesterday, a little soundbite from 2004.
Oh, yeah, well, we did a great job on that.
That plan really worked well, and we got it.
But the plan had nothing to do with it.
It was just a just a good agent, uh, extremely competent agent.
Now, in March of 2000, the Millennium After Action Review warns the prior administration, Clinton, of a substantial Al-Qaeda network and affiliated affiliated foreign terrorist presence within the U.S. capable of supporting additional terrorist attacks here.
Furthermore, fully 17 months before the September 11th attacks, the review recommends disrupting the Al-Qaeda network and terrorist presence in America using immigration violations, minor criminal infractions, and tougher visa and border controls.
None of this was done.
And this leads to uh conjecture that Sandy Burgler went in and tried to doctor the document somehow so as to make this not appear the case.
Byron York writing it to National Review Online in May of 2004.
Justice also knew, Justice Department also knew that the Clinton administration had done an after-action review of the Millennium Matter, a study conducted by none other than Richard Clark.
The review was a scathing indictment of the last administration's actions, said the administration source talking to Byron York.
It was exactly how things should not be run.
And in fact, Richard Clark himself is quite critical of the handling of the Millennium plot in his book Against All Enemies.
The virtue of Ashcroft's testimony is that he came out and said it.
This National Security Council Millennium After Action Review declares, this is Ascroft uh speaking in his testimony, declares that the United States barely missed major terrorist attacks in 1999 and cites luck as playing a major role, according to Ashcroft's testimony.
It's clear from the review that actions taken in the Millennium Period, Y2K should not be the operating model for the U.S. government.
World Net Daily, a piece from 2004.
In testimony before the 911 Commission in April, uh John Ashcroft pointed to a National Security Council document now at the center of the FBI's investigation of Sandy Burglar, urging the panel to ask why its warnings in blueprint to thwart Al-Qaeda plans to target the U.S. were ignored by the Clinton administration and not shared with the incoming Bush security staff.
So we've got I'm on the third source here.
We've got four sources, basically all analyzing the Millennium After Action View the same way.
That it was blind luck, well, no offense to the customs agent in Seattle, but it wasn't any federal policy that led to the uh breakup of that attempted terrorist incident of LAX.
Uh it was just uh, you know, a competent agent.
Uh, that the Clinton administration uh knew of an Al-Qaeda presence, didn't do anything about it, and didn't pass on the extensive nature of the Al-Qaeda existence to the uh Bush administration.
Uh drafts of the sensitive NSC Millennium After Action Review, this is still World Net Daily, on the Clinton administration's handling of Al-Qaeda terror threats during the December 1999 millennium celebration are reported to be among the documents still missing from classified materials Berger removed from a secure reading room.
Uh now again, we're we're go you go back to motivations.
What would Berger's motivations be?
He was working for Kerry at the time.
And he could have been trying to get something out of there that would show up in the 9-11 transcripts or hearings or testimony that would make Democrats look soft on terror and uncaring about it, which would thus confirm an image that the Democrats have earned and thus negatively impact the Kerry campaign.
Or he could have been just going in there and trying to preserve the legacy of the uh Clinton administration in uh their lack of effort in fighting terrorism, or it could have been a uh combination of the uh of the two.
And then finally, Sandy Burglar used weasel words like inadvertent and accidentally discarded to wish away criminal acts that jeopardized national security, and which were likely done to protect the Clinton administration from facing the tribunal of history and to save Kerry's presidential campaign, uh, which Berger served as uh an advisor.
Uh Berger would uh have disgraced himself and his comrades less had he simply refused to comment.
So uh this this one got swept under the rug.
Uh and uh Berger's buddies are coming, oh, he's such a great guy.
He's a little disheveled and uh this sort of thing.
But this is serious.
And the Clinton administration, don't forget, has the documents.
They've got all the memos in his presidential library.
They have all of the originals, they've got the drafts that went into making the final memo.
Landmark legal foundation has asked through uh Freedom of Information Act requests and uh uh the government papers act or whatever for the for release, and the Clinton Library has not released them, and they don't have to.
Uh presidents can hold on to these things for twelve years if they are, quote, classified relate to quote national security, which is a you know, cover for letting the government do much of anything and former presidents keep much of anything uh private.
And my only theory on this is is that if if Clinton had such this great record on tra uh terrorism and fighting it and uh spending so much time on it, then that document would prove it.
And he would want it out.
And you combine this, and he doesn't want it out, because obviously it doesn't indicate that uh they spent much time or care on this at all, subject of terrorism.
Second thing is, if you just remember their reaction to the movie Path to 9-11, uh uh it it it they didn't want that movie airing because the movie uh depicts this incident in Seattle with the customs agent as uh as it accurately actually happened.
Uh doesn't give credit to the Clinton administration.
In fact, the whole period of time in the 90s covered by the movie Path to 9-11 makes it clear that the Clinton administration was not nearly as focused on it as they wanted everybody to believe, and as they would like for everybody to be able to be made to believe today as they're trying to construct a legacy.
As I say, uh, Berger he admitted to it he got a misdemeanor and a $50,000 fine.
His security clearance has been revoked, but he'll get it back just in time to serve in Hillary Clinton's administration if she wins and if she so wants him to be a member of her staff somewhere.
He'll get his security clearance back about the same time, sometime in 2009, maybe late 2008.
I'm I'm not sure about the exact date.
Uh this is something she needs to be asked about throughout.
And you know it's not going to happen.
Uh in a different world if she were a Republican and the exact scenario we're gonna Democrats are going to spend all their time as much as they can investigating Bush the next two years once they get into office.
Scooter Libby is on trial for his freedom for uh a a process crime that is just irresponsible and incompetent uh and knife hong like if you ask me.
And meanwhile, Sandy Burglar walks free with constant praise about what a great patriot he is and what a great guy, just a little disorganized and disheveled.
All right, back to the f Oh no, I've got a couple sound bites here.
I want I want you to hear.
First off, the um where was this?
This is last night on CNN, the Situation Room with Wolf Blitzer.
Uh guests are the forehead, uh Paul Bagella, Democrat strategist and member of the Clinton war room.
Uh, and uh Republican strategist Bay Buchanan.
They have this discussion about uh Sandy Burglar.
The key here, I think, is what this exposes is a man in the Clinton administration, a top fellow national security, to was deliberate in his effort to make certain documents were destroyed that would have obviously been incriminating to Clinton.
Not in criminal.
Do you think that this man went in there and stole documents and destroyed him that would make him look good or make the Clinton look good?
I'm sure it's sure it cast him and his boss, my form wasn't a bad light, but that's different from saying it was evidence of criminality.
No evidence of criminality.
I mean on whose part.
Paul was burglar who uh confessed uh when it was all a uh a misdemeanor.
Donald Trump still firing away at Rosie O'Donnell.
She didn't say much yesterday.
Trump was on uh let's see, Larry King uh last night.
King says, does she have a point in pointing out that you were setting yourself as a moral judge of this girl when there were more moral questions about you?
How do you react to that statement?
I think I'm a lot better on the morality front than Rosie.
I mean, take a look at Rosie.
What do you have?
The best thing Rosie has going is her girlfriend, Kelly.
Now, if Kelly ever leaves Rosie, she'll never find another one, believe me.
Because who's gonna want Rosie?
How would you like to have to kiss that good night, Larry?
I wish I'd have seen this so I could see King's face uh when he was presented that option.
Then last night on extra Trump, I mean, just get we got music in the background of this one.
Trump just kept pounding.
Living with this pig face is very tough.
And her life is a mess.
She's a mess.
Believe me.
Her girlfriend cannot be happy.
You look at that mess that she's got to look at every night, that she's got a kiss every night.
She can't be thrilled kissing Rosie O'Donnell.
What's worse than that?
Admit it, folks.
Admit it.
Part of you enjoys somebody saying this about Rosie O'Donnell.
Um, you know, it's gonna be it's gonna be very interesting.
These are these are some pretty vicious comments.
These are some pretty vicious comments.
Uh uh far more vicious than anything I've ever said about anybody.
Uh but we'll see.
We'll see how this affects Trump uh down the road.
Probably not.
He's a loved figure.
He's a great media get, and people are afraid of him.
In uh in uh on a number of levels.
All right, Tom in uh Kennewick, Washington.
I'm glad you waited, sir.
Welcome to the EIB network.
Christmas dido's rest.
Thank you.
Thank you very much.
Hey, I have a great open line uh Friday question for you.
Do you still have in your possession the gurgling wide mouth bath pitcher that you had on the Donahue show with you in the early nineties?
Yeah, it's uh it's up in the display case at the uh studio in the EIB building in in uh Manhattan.
The gurgling cod.
Gurgling cod.
The gurgling cod was given to me as a gift when I first went to Boston, and it uh it was sold at a department store, and I'm having a metal block trying to rem remember the name of the of the department store.
But the reason they call it a gurgling cod is that it is a pitcher.
Uh it's white porcelain, I think, white something, and you you fill it half full with water and pretend to be poor.
You don't have to pour it out.
Uh you it just it just before the water even begins to Pour the water gurgles because of the acoustics in the shape of the uh the vase in the shape of the gurgling cod.
And it makes the funniest noise when you do this.
And uh that's why they were they they gave it to me, and then we all started making jokes about um uh this is Senator Kennedy underwater and so forth, especially since it was given to me in Boston.
Yes, I thought it was I thought it was great, Raj.
It was uh I just have been wondering if you still had that.
Yeah, where do you s we you where did you uh Well, you must be you must have been listening for a long time to have heard me do that on the radio.
Well, actually, I uh had to disobey my mother and listen to you on the radio because I I told her about you, and she's like, uh, you he's not he's you shouldn't listen to him.
So I went ahead and did it anyway, and I actually converted her over to you.
But um it was I started listening to you when you had about two hundred and fifty radio stations in the early nineties.
Yeah.
And I've been uh the young souls full of mush.
Well, uh I that that's that's gosh, I I just I was just up there the other day and I just saw it in the display case, and I just I don't I never the dis the play c the display case is laid out so perfectly.
Cookie is made it so beautiful.
I don't touch anything in it, it's got some great I gotta get that thing out of there and just bring back to life the gurgling cod.
Because it's uh especially for those of you watching on the ditto cam, you can see it.
It's just funny.
I don't know why it, but it is.
It when you when you hear the noise that this thing makes, you have to make sure you don't fill it.
Uh you can you can make the move toward pouring it without any of it actually coming out of the gurgling cod.
Uh but as the water moves inside this thing, it uh and it it it gurgles and it it sounds like somebody trying to talk underwater.
It was it was a great and you know, Rash, I just want to say thank you for being who you are.
Um a lot of where my ideology and growing up has come from listening to you and from my parents.
Um a lot of what I know about um Ronaldus Magnus has come from you, and so I didn't have a chance to call you at Thanksgiving, but I just wanted to, you know, my mom got me a subscription to your website yesterday, and I'm here at work hooking it up, so you know I just want to say thank you, Rush.
Well, that's awfully kind of you.
I th I thank you very much.
But I have a question.
You've intrigued me.
Yes, sir.
When you were a young skull full of mush, by your own admission, mere moments ago on this program, your mother would not let you listen to this program.
You had to sneak around your parent to do this.
And now your mother is a convert.
Could you tell me how this happened?
Um actually yeah, I've got to be careful because um she's listening right now as I'm talking to you.
So um well then in that case, tell the truth, and then you well, I can't say that.
Um what is it?
So yeah, go ahead.
Did give us the story.
Okay, what had happened was I was uh over at my grandma's house and I was just kind of rolling around the uh radius dial, and I came across you, and you had just finished playing um the phlanderer um piece on Ted Kennedy, and I was I thought it was the funniest thing, and so I told my mom when she picked me up, I was like, You've got to listen to this guy.
And you know, his name's Rush Limbaugh.
He's the funniest thing, and he's making fun of Ted Kennedy.
And um she was she's like, Oh, really?
So then she listened to you the next day, and when she got home from work, she's like, I don't think you should be listening to him.
He's not a very nice man.
He's kind of dirty on some of his things.
But I went ahead and listened to you anyway and finally something I don't remember what it was, but she finally listened and realized that you were pretty good too.
So that's good.
She came around.
I I don't know how I went from not being a very nice man to somebody it's okay for you to listen to, but I will uh I'll take it.
Look, I I I appreciate all you you said.
I've uh I sort of blows me away when people uh say those kind of things to me still, but I I appreciate it more than you know.
Thank you and thank your mom, and as a Christmas present to both of you.
From the archives, may as well dig it up.
Ted Kennedy swimming around.
Even as I speak, ladies and gentlemen, we are taking a couple pictures of the gurgling cod in the display case in the studio at the EIB building in Midtown Manhattan.
We'll have it on the website uh sometime later this afternoon.
John in Los Angeles, glad you waited.
Your next open line Friday.
Hi.
John, you there.
Yeah, yeah, I'm here.
Can you hear me?
Yeah, I hear you fine.
Oh, Okay.
The topic that I wanted to discuss was something you left off on yesterday, which was uh the Swift Company immigration rate.
It is such a farce.
And I say that because I have personal knowledge of major, a major company in the Los Angeles County area that I've written ice about.
I've spoke I've written to Chertoff and and gotten response.
And they do nothing.
What's the force of the farce about it?
What's the farce?
The farce is if they really want to crack crack down on illegal immigration at these plants, why not go to a place that has the number two at the very least number of illegal immigrants working.
And that's Los Angeles.
You have not heard of a crackdown in any major city where illegal immigrants are.
Especially in in Los Angeles.
In California, period.
Well, that is an interesting point.
So you think it's all a bunch of B.S. I'm looking here.
I've got some of the immigration stories in the stack here.
I can't believe it.
I'm going through them trying to find them now.
I just uh put them in there.
They'll there's stories that'll uh that'll ama Oh, look at this.
UN agencies warn of impending North Korea food crisis.
They've had a food crisis in North Korea for 25 or 30 years.
Uh anyway, hang with me here on uh uh Okay, and then and then Rush, when you look at the type of companies that they're cracking down on they're nothing.
I know Hey, hey, hey, SWIFT is the number two beef and pork uh packer and producer in the country.
You know, it's not nothing.
I know.
But I'm saying, in terms of the world.
For example, I have personal experience of say Johnson and Johnson, one of their companies that employ and have employees.
Okay, so I get your your point is they could do these raids every day and clean them all out, all these kind if they really wanted to.
This was just for show.
There you go.
That's what you think.
It is it is and and and like I said, it's it's all from personal experience and or knowledge.
Okay.
So they could do that, but they don't want to.
That's what I say, and and maybe we have had I can't tell you the number of times I've told this story.
I forget it's some uh uh an onion uh uh whatever uh in Georgia, some onion farm or some such thing.
Uh and in in a couple of other states too.
I think uh actually another meat packer in Ohio.
Or maybe it was Nebraska.
Yeah, it was Nebraska, and I forget it wasn't Swift, I forget which one it was.
And this now this goes back to um before there was ICE.
This is uh INS days, immigration naturalization service.
And these um these guys that do these raids.
And the owners of the company after the raids would call their respective senators.
And the senators would call the head of immigration and naturalization.
And he was told, look, I don't know what you think you're doing.
If you want to hold this job, and if you want to be able to put your kids through college, you're gonna cancel these raids.
I am not gonna have my constituents this upset at me.
You can't do these raids at this time of the year.
This is crucial.
Is it right before the harvest is right before whatever it was?
And the INS guy then ends up being threatened by senators in two different states representing their constituents, and so what's he gonna do?
I mean, he'd be obviously he's uh he's gonna back down a little bit and not make it as public uh what uh what his uh you know these raids uh have all been about.
Look at there's a as everybody knows when you start talking about illegal immigration, there's a sizable population percentage of population doesn't want to do anything about it.
Uh and and one one of the groups in the sizable I don't want to do anything about it population is business.
They love the cheap labor, and they they've put forth the notion that it's jobs Americans won't do.
We sort of uh uh uh put the myth to that uh yesterday is the SWIFT one of these Swift uh uh uh plants knew that the raid was gonna happen, and before the raid, they increased wages, benefits, and bonuses because they're gonna have to replace these workers.
I mean, in some places they lost a thousand workers, they're gonna have to replace them uh if they're to keep their productivity up, and they hired uh, as the story said, uh number of Caucasians to replace the illegal immigrants, the Hispanics, uh, who had been uh thrown out in the raid.
So it's not that Americans won't do the job, uh, it's that Americans won't do the job at entry-level, uneducated wage levels.
Uh, which the companies knew, which Swift seems to me Swift knew because they had to raise their wages in order to refill these jobs or fill these jobs vacated by the raid.
Uh so if you if you if you pay, uh there were and there were lots of people lined up to take the jobs uh as as well.
But there's a there's a good number of people want nothing to do with uh uh changing ill illegal immigration the way it is.
They benefit from it.
They don't consider it to be a problem in any way, shape, manner, reform.
And, you know, there's a bunch of people, uh, particularly in Arizona, uh J.D. Hayworth, of course there's a lot being misreported about his loss, and another candidate, the the the pro-immigration, the pro-illlegals, uh, or the the anti-listen, the pro-amnesty crowd, whatever you want to call them, are spinning these elections trying to say, look at look at what happened to candidates in border states who ran on a very heavy platform of fixing illegal immigration.
They got beat.
And in some cases, you can you can you could make the case persuasively to future candidates that this is a losing issue, despite the uh cacophony and the rage from people in the country who are upset about it.
Uh people that ran for office with that as their primary plank in the platform, some of them got shellac.
Not all of them, but all it takes is one or two for the opponents to point at, see, see, the country is not that upset about this.
It's being totally manufactured and so forth.
And it's just gonna create more and more doubt and a little fear on the part of future candidates to make it a big issue, because it didn't seem to be that big a one in uh in this last game.
It's certainly not one that propelled proponents of getting something done on border security to uh to victory.
Brief timeout here, thanks for the call, John.
We'll be back and continue in unoppos.
A week after the largest ever U.S. crackdown on illegal immigrants in the workplace, Hispanic leaders uh called yesterday for an end to such raids, saying immigration reform in Congress should be completed first.
This is the time to take action because families are being destroyed, said Rosa Rosales, president of the League of United Latin American citizens.
Uh she and others at a news conference called on federal officials to end the raid, saying the roundups harm people who are simply trying to uh support their families.
Almost everybody's trying to support their family.
There are some exceptions out there.
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