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Dec. 22, 2006 - Rush Limbaugh Program
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December 22, 2006, Friday, Hour #1
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Welcome to today's edition of the Rush 24-7 podcast.
Well, Merry Christmas, everybody.
Ho, ho, ho, and all that.
Despite long odds, we are here today at the EIB Network and the EIB Southern Command.
We're here on time, and as far as anybody is concerned, it's been as smooth as silk this morning.
But it was only mere moments ago that we had to put out a fire started by a candle with some cheap stuff that was supposed to be Christmas tree branches.
Flammable.
We caught it in time.
We're here.
Live from the Southern Command in sunny South Florida.
It's Open Line Friday.
And I'm going to tell you there's more smoke in this place than all of the cigars I have smoked here over the years combined.
Fast action by me and Brian Snerdley on the cleanup.
And we're all seated and ready to go here on Open Line Friday.
800-282-2882.
The email address rush at EIBnet.com.
What do you got?
What did I say that's not right?
If I hadn't started shouting fire, you guys wouldn't have known it.
You're off in your oblivion there eating your chocolate-covered pretzels.
800-282-2882.
And if I hadn't gone in there to see you about the, we had a missing UPS package.
We've been trying to track that down.
And if I hadn't gone in to see what you were doing about that, nobody would have seen the smoke until it was too late.
And then ahead of the curves, you know, my instincts have never failed me here.
I looked out there.
I said, a candle can't be smoking like that.
I've never seen a candle.
So I walked out there and we had about one of these Christmas tree, well, four candles sitting in their little, I don't know, cheap little black holders, and the candle wax dripped over into the decorations, which should not have been flammable, but they obviously were.
So anyway, we got it all put out with fire extinguisher.
Brian did that, tried to put it out with his shirt first, realized too big for that.
Got the fire extinguisher, and Snerdley was out trying to clean the black soot off the windows and just smeared the windows even worse than they were.
But I'm just kidding.
It was fast action.
All right, you know the rules open line Friday.
When we go to the phones, the program is all yours.
You can talk about whatever you want.
I don't have to care about it.
Monday through Thursday, of course, I don't talk about it unless I care about it.
But on Friday, and this is a giant career risk that I take, but I take it with pride and excitement and eager anticipation.
So whatever is on your mind today, questions, comments, complaints.
Remember yesterday in the last hour of the program, we featured a stack of Christmas stories from the Associated Press that were designed to convince everybody that everybody's miserable and angry and that there's nothing happy about the holiday season as it has unfolded.
And we've got some similarly troubling news to report to you as well today.
We're going to try to have fun lighthearted and take ourselves into the Christmas weekend in the best possible spirit in that light.
The stories that the Drive-By Media run continue to make me chuckle.
AP has a story called Traditions Are Important.
Now, this sort of like reminds me of the Time magazine cover back in the 90s that it was a cover.
New studies indicate that men and women are actually born different.
Now, for somebody to consider that to be news, cover story news, what must they have thought before they read the study?
Along comes this story from the Associated Press, traditions are important.
It must shock them enough that they think it's worth doing a fairly long story about.
Tradition often trumps the trendy during the Christmas season.
People send traditional Christmas cards through the mail far more than they send greeting cards by email.
Most people think it's okay to have Christmas decorations at public buildings, even though it occasionally draws protests and lawsuits.
See, most people think it's okay to have Christmas decorations at public buildings, even though it occasionally draws protests and lawsuits from the offended.
But clearly, even though most people think it's okay.
So we've got the tyranny of the minority that's being acknowledged here.
And I detect, you've got to read between the lines here.
I know how to read the stitches in a fastball.
And this little paragraph here is the lead of the story.
Most people think it's okay to have Christmas decorations at public hearings and public buildings.
They're surprised by that.
That shocks them.
There are obviously people in the drive-by media.
The left obviously think that most Americans don't want to offend anybody with their traditional Christmas behaviors, characteristics, celebrations, decorations, and so forth.
It just means they're going to be working harder on this in ensuing years.
Many people long for the days when businesses routinely told customers Merry Christmas rather than the more politically correct happy holidays or seasons greetings, but nearly half are not bothered by the broader greeting.
Yes, my friends, it's a poll.
These are the findings of an APAOL news poll.
I think we should stick with the traditional things we were raised with, said Melanie Sadler, 31, bringing up her family in Livingston, Tennessee.
I think we're getting away from what's important in life.
We forget why we have Christmas.
When people say happy holidays, it turns the season more commercial.
Here's some of the interesting things the poll found.
People were four times as likely to send traditional Christmas cards as opposed to send greeting cards by email.
They were twice as likely to call somebody on the phone with holiday greetings as to send an email.
People are divided on whether it's a good thing or bad thing that businesses often greet their customers by saying happy holidays instead of Merry Christmas.
About half, 48%, said it's good, and almost as many, 42%, said that it is bad.
Now, why is that so high?
Why if 42% think it's not good to be greeted with Merry Christmas in a business?
Well, obviously, these are very sensitive people, the new pacifists among us who think that it might offend somebody, might hurt somebody's feelings.
So we can't, you know, we've got to learn to accommodate everybody, which means we have to learn to accommodate various minorities.
And I'm talking about numerical minorities here, not racial or ethnic.
70% of the people in the poll say that they will use the internet for Christmas shopping as much or more as in past years.
Nine in 10 people say it's appropriate for public buildings to have Christmas decorations.
Nine in 10.
And yet we can't do it without a whole lot of hassle and argument and lawsuits.
The poll of 1,000 adults was taken December 12th through the 14th and has a margin of who cares where the margin of the growing popularity of the internet is not keeping shoppers away from the stores, the poll suggested.
And mailing traditional Christmas cards remain very popular, though not as much among young people's.
Those over 50 were much more likely to have sent traditional Christmas cards than those in the 18 to 29 age group.
Bottom line, AP stunned here that so much tradition thrives and lives at Christmastime, so much so that they felt the need to do a story about it.
Brief time out.
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No, Christmas Eve Evie.
800-282-2882, breaking news out of Raleigh, North Carolina.
WRAL TV there, Channel 5 is reporting that the District Attorney Mike Nyphuong has moved today to drop all rape charges against the three Duke University lacrosse players.
That's all it says on their website.
I am looking at it even as doing the program here.
That's all it says.
It's a Christmas miracle.
Well, it's obviously a great Christmas present for these guys, but there's going to be much more to this in the ensuing days here.
Durham District, because where do these guys go to get their reputations back now?
Where do these guys go?
Look at all that happened.
The lacrosse team was shut down.
I mean, this whole thing has been a travesty.
And Nifwong, apparently, if this little blurb on the Channel 5 Raleigh, North Carolina website is accurate, has dropped the charges or has moved to drop the charges against the three Duke La Crosse players today.
That's all well and good, but this still, you know, how did this happen in the first place?
Our criminal justice system is designed to protect the innocent.
We all know how this happened.
It was politics and it was race.
Now, speaking of Duke University, I had a story here in the stack that I was going to share with you today before I even knew that the little blurb was going to run that Nyphuong is dropping charges.
This is from the Raleigh News and Observer.
Dogged by months of damaging news stories about the La Crosse scandal, Duke University has launched a costly campaign of alumni dinners, national surveys, and aggressive recruitment.
The effort, which includes a 12-city tour by the president, Richard Broadhead, and an entourage of faculty and students is part of a larger push to blunt publicity generated by gang rape allegations involving lacrosse players.
The charges resulted.
Listen to this.
The charges resulted in an embarrassing examination of the school's social and academic culture.
That is not what was embarrassing about this.
What was embarrassing was the inexcusable way and the cowardly way that the faculty and the administration at Duke University responded to the allegations.
What was embarrassing was the way the faculty responded, how they threw their customers, the students, under a bus driven by a politically motivated district attorney.
They didn't question it at all.
This is just typical.
This kind of thing makes me cringe.
All of the circumstantial evidence from the moment this case was announced cast doubt on these charges.
Everybody had doubts about it, but look at what happened.
This is a great drive-by media example.
Drive-by show up and they start launching all kinds of ammo and stuff and get everybody on fire.
They just incendiary the place.
And we had stories about how these are wealthy, white, privileged, elitist athletes, and how they're automatically, they've got to be guilty.
Why?
This is a racist society.
And why this is Durham North Carolina?
We know what Durham North Carolina is.
This is a South.
And we know that racism lives.
And we had this poor black woman who was just struggling to feed her baby by stripping and showing up at parties like this and so forth.
The presumption of guilt from the moment the charges were filed establishes a point that I have been making since my own little run-in with criminal justice.
And it is, and this is, by the way, this is not political.
There is in our society this total respect for law enforcement.
They have infinite credibility.
If they say, if they leak any details of a story to the drive-by media and the story results with the phrase, sources close to the investigations, everybody just believes it.
Because everybody has a very high opinion of law enforcement.
Why would they lie?
I mean, they're out there catching bad guys.
They are the one thing that protects us from total anarchy.
Why would they make it up?
Why would they lie?
So it's just a natural predisposition on the part of all of us to accept what law enforcement says as gospel.
And I think in this case, this is one of the most glaring examples of that that there could have been.
And it was epitomized and led by the sheer panic at Duke University.
I call these students customers.
These students pay or are on scholarship.
They're doing something to earn their way into this university.
And the first mention of any of these kinds of charges, the university, still, I wonder if they're going to still do their image campaign.
I wonder if they're still going to do this.
I wonder if they're going to do their 12-city tour with the president and an honourable faculty at part of their larger push to blunt publicity generated by gang rape allegations involving lacrosse players.
Duke officials are not going to say how much the image makeover costs, but its reach is extensive.
I've told trustees going to take two to five years to recover.
Recover from what?
They didn't do anything, unless you want to say that kids having a party in their house is bad for a university's image.
And I think that's going to be a tough sell.
I don't think anybody out there expects that everybody at Duke is in bed by 9:30 at night and up by 6 or 5, hitting the books, working out, going to practice or what have image they have to rebuild?
The image they have to rebuild is that they are not open-minded.
The image that they have to rebuild is that they're reactionary and that they're maybe not willing to accept the word of their students.
They shut down the whole lacrosse operation over this.
The signs that Duke's recruitment efforts could take a hit from the lacrosse fallout.
This story was published, by the way, today.
The university's early decision applications dropped by nearly 20% this fall, and officials can see the decrease was related partly to the scandal.
The regular application deadline isn't until January something or other.
So it's all for naught.
It doesn't mean anything.
Duke would not have a reputation to have to repair if they had just sat back and let this stuff play out, or maybe if they had instead aggressively sought the truth themselves And not presume the guilt automatically.
See, this is, you talk about guilt.
It was precisely that that made the Duke administration react the way it did.
Oh my gosh, it's got to be true.
White guys, black girl.
Oh, that's got to be true.
Not because they're administrators, because they're liberals.
And that's just the way they look at these kinds of things.
And so now Nyphong is dropping the charges or has moved to drop the charges.
The defense is saying this, by the way.
But it's all over the website, WRAL Channel 5 and Raleigh.
And now the cable nets are starting to pick up the story.
Luke in Lexington, you're next.
Welcome to the EIB Network, sir.
Hello.
Hey, Rush, Mega Didos from Lexington, Kentucky.
I always knew that you dealt with hot topics, but not enough to catch something on fire.
Yeah, well, I just want you, I tried to blow it out, too, and that did not work.
Yeah, those are hot air on a fire does not do anything good.
Accelerate usually.
Hey, I wanted to ask you a Christmas question.
Yeah.
My favorite Christmas album is The Christmas Song by Nat King Cole.
Yeah, I love that.
I love that.
I wondered if you had a favorite Christmas album.
You know, there's so many of them that I grew up listening to, and I don't remember them all, but I do love that one.
Some of the Carpenter's Christmas songs were just absolutely superb, too.
But look, I mean, I'm a Mannheim Steamroller guy.
That's true.
And I, you know, at the time that I encountered and learned about Mannheim Steamroller was in the 1980s when I was in Sacramento.
And there was just a tremendous sentimental attachment to it.
I know I was, well, I don't want to get, I was traveling 35,000 feet on a crystal clear night on a trip to California from New York, and I knew my father was dying.
And this music connected me with God.
This Mannheim Steamroller, and I've told Chip Davis of the group this, it's going to be with me for the rest of my days.
Back in a sec.
Okay, have some more details now.
They're trickling out.
All the charges have not been dropped in the Duke La Crosse case.
The rape charges have been dropped against all three, but the DA said that he plans to proceed with kidnapping and sexual assault charges against the three players.
He's simply dropping the rape charges.
And there's a reason for that.
There isn't any evidence of rape in any of the DNA testing.
There's contradictory statements.
The accuser's friend has really just destroyed her whole concept that the accuser's pregnant is got pregnant two weeks after the alleged rapes took place.
But Naifuang's not dropping the whole thing.
Plans to proceed with kidnapping and sexual assault charges against the three players.
Naifuang's investigator interviewed the victim, the alleged victim, yesterday, and she told investigators that she couldn't testify with certainty that she was raped.
This is the first time Ny Fuang spoke to her.
So she picked him out.
It can't be certain she was raped.
She couldn't testify with certainty.
She was.
Wait a minute.
That doesn't jive with anything that we have been taught about rape.
You get raped, you know it.
This is still a mess, a total mess.
This is a safe, some sort of a face-saving move, obviously.
Also, breaking news from ABC News.
They are reporting that they have learned that al-Qaeda operatives in Greater London are being encouraged to strike during the Christian holiday.
Why not?
Of course, we deserve it, ladies, and we deserve to be hit, particularly on the highest Christian holiday.
We deserve to be hit.
Absolutely.
I mean, that's we need to get our just desserts for all these years of poisoning the world and dominating the world and destroying resources and creating havoc and causing pollution.
We deserve everything we get.
Seth in Delhi, Louisiana, you're next on the EIB network.
Hello, sir.
Ditto, Thrash.
Hey.
Hello.
Yes.
Hello.
Do you hear me?
I hear you.
Let's go.
Okay.
I wanted to know if it was more the police, the prosecutors leaking this information, because my understanding it was more the prosecutor's office leaking all this information, not the police.
Wait, in this particular case?
In the Duke Rake case.
Look, it's both.
You think?
Well, of course.
It's not the DA himself.
I've got people in the office that'll leak.
I mean, this whole thing's been done in the media.
The whole purpose of this was to put it in the media to help Nyphong's primary reelection chances last spring.
I agree with that.
And you can't get it in the media unless you leak it.
My understanding, it was the prosecutor's office that was making all the press announcements and the like.
Well, Nyphong was making some press announcements.
I thought you were asking me about leaks.
Leaks.
Well, a press announcement is not a leak.
I understand that.
All right.
So, well, now I'm confused.
Are you asking me if it's cops that leak and the prosecutor didn't, or vice versa, or the both?
What I'm saying is my understanding is it was the prosecutor's office that leaked all the information, not the police.
Okay.
Are you bouncing off the fact that I have just said that law enforcement leaks things and you're interpreting law enforcement as police?
Yes.
Ah, okay.
Law enforcement is everybody wears a badge.
The DA has a badge.
He doesn't wear it, but they all have badges.
He is the boss of the cops.
He's the boss of the police chief, in a sense.
Well, the sheriff, Sheriff's Department, he's above them.
And his office gets the information and decides whether or not to prosecute a crime.
And the collection of that evidence ends up with him in a situation like this in his office.
And so law enforcement can be anybody.
Cops, DA, PR person at DA's office.
Who knows?
It could be a secretary.
Leaks can come from anywhere.
And they do.
It's the name of the game.
Dave in Corona, California.
Welcome to the EIB Network, sir, on Open Line Friday.
Rush, thanks for taking my call.
This is something I feel very passionate about, and it's very important to me and near and dear.
When you said the schools are more than happy to hang their customers out to dry, it's always been more the rule than the exception with any publicly funded education in America.
I think it's amazing that a lot of people don't even realize how much money goes into education and who's happy with it?
Who's pleased with it?
And I'd like to talk a lot about what I think the root problem of the system is.
First of all, you're absolutely right.
People have no clue how much money goes into education.
I think that they would be stunned if it could be explained in an understandable way to them.
But it's like, well, we're going to increase the Defense Department by $99 billion.
Nobody can visualize that.
That's not a simple number.
I mean, Ted Kennedy and the president in his first term signed an education bill that spending through the roof, something to the tune of $700 billion.
Then we have the no-child left behind.
That costs some more money.
And still every year in every campaign, we need more money for education.
We need more money.
And The return we're getting on the investment certainly doesn't match what we should be getting.
We had far greater education results at all levels and grades years and years and years ago when we didn't spend nearly as much money on it.
What's your theory about what went wrong when?
Well, it's not a theory.
No child left behind was a good act.
And if memory serves correctly, that's the one by President Bush, right?
That's correct.
Okay.
That one was the one that the teachers' unions were very, very, very upset about.
And I think it's the best thing Bush has done in his presidency.
And that is to put metrics on the performance of teachers.
Everybody out there that's listening to this program is measured in answers to a boss that says, including you, that says you need to do X, Y, and Z during your job.
And it's measured based on how many calls you get, how many customers you get, how many listeners you have.
But public education is not measured by how much they teach.
They're measured by attendance.
There's only one thing every school in America does, and that is take attendance because they're paid on attendance.
That's right.
Everything else is negotiable, including teaching students the ability to read.
They can get paid and not even teach somebody to read, but as long as they get attendance, they get paid.
If they don't do attendance, they don't get paid.
Precisely right.
There are many reasons for this, but one of the primary reasons is that unions negotiate these contracts, and unions are very politically involved, and they can extract a lot of give back for the money that they donate to various candidates.
Exactly right.
Exactly right.
And the teachers' union in America is one of the hugest unions because there's so many people in it.
There's so much money in it.
And I think the American public is mostly ignorant to it because I don't think the media wants to touch it.
I think you're one of the few people that would even be brave enough to bring it up.
And this is a huge, huge thing.
I think the drive-by media wouldn't even be as bold as they are if education was better in America.
And I think it's great that people like President Bush and other funding is being tied to how much people learn and how much people teach.
But there's huge resistance to it.
Let me ask you this, Dave.
We're talking with Dave of Corona, California.
I always like to look at motivation when in discussing things like this.
You just laid it out pretty well.
There is very little accountability for teachers in this country today based on what they teach, whereas everybody else's job performance is rated on their productivity or their achievement or accomplishment.
In school, as long as the attendance is there, everything is considered to be hunky-dory because of the payback for it.
Now, why do you think this is?
Aside from the fact that you can cite a couple of unions here and there which negotiate contracts for their workers that give them more time off, more vacation time, shorter workdays and so forth.
We all know this.
I've gotten in trouble even for saying it, even after we've proven it to be true in the case of a couple unions.
But besides that, besides the desire of unions to always get more money for less work, what do you think the motivation is for not teaching people to read?
What do you think the motivation is for not caring about results in school?
You don't need a motivation.
You don't need a motivation.
No, no, no.
The only thing you need is a lack of observable productivity.
If you take any workforce, it doesn't matter how important your job is.
It doesn't matter how valuable or how much people believe in their job.
If you have a system where workers are not measured based on how much they work and they're not rewarded based on how much they work, everything becomes political.
If you talk to any very competent teacher, they will express a lot of frustration to you about how the system works and that how they could do an exceptional job in inspiring students to learn and inspiring students to overachieve, and there's no reward for it.
And the question is, why?
Well, because they're members of unions.
That's one thing.
A union negotiates contracts for masses of groups of people, and whether the individual worker or teacher outshines any of the others, still going to get paid the same based on the union contracts.
So there isn't any financial motivation aside from what your union is going to give you to outshine or do anything, no financial motivation to do anything better.
There might be devotion to career, but this leads me to the next question.
Most people in this country, for the longest time, and I think many of them still have a glowing opinion of the public schools, and they believe that people in the education system from the top down are genuinely interested in educating American children.
No, I don't think they believe that at all.
Who doesn't?
Do you believe that at all?
Who doesn't believe it?
I think for the most part, people don't believe it.
You'll talk to people, and all of these people will say, we need more money in education.
Education is very important.
You won't hear a lot of glowing enthusiasm for the job that we're doing.
I think a lot of people acknowledge there is a problem in education.
Nobody understands what that problem is.
Well, those two might not totally accompany each other.
If they realize there's a problem, they have to have some idea why.
But look, let me take a break because I'm up to it on time, but I'm going to find a different way to phrase the question.
I'm talking about image, the image that education in this country, you just said it yourself.
Everybody constantly, kids got to get educated.
I want my kids to get educated.
And when parents have a chance who can't afford it to get their kids out of public schools, they take it.
Why?
Why do they do this?
They know something's not right in there.
My question to you is: with all this image that people have had of public education, that it is fabulous, that it's important, and that people in it genuinely care about educating.
Look, when I went to school, my parents told me the teachers were always right.
They had the utmost respect for him, and so did I.
Those teachers were brilliant.
They were not politicizing anything, and they were not proselytizing, and they were not indoctrinating.
And I'm going back to the 50s and 60s.
Something's changed somewhere along the line.
That doesn't happen now.
It obviously doesn't when so many graduates can't read the diploma.
As you brought up now, the motivation for what's happening to the public school system on the part of people who run it is interesting to me.
Back in just a second.
And we are back.
It's Open Line Friday.
Rush Limbaugh on the EIB network.
We're talking with Dave in Corona, California.
Dave, let me, rather than ask you leading questions, let me just tell you what I think is the answer to my question.
You can respond to that since our time is short.
I don't think that the lack of performance, either by students or teachers, in the public school system, is simply because there's no remuneration or compensation for excellent effort.
I think it goes deeper than that.
And I think it goes to who runs public education.
And this is where you may get mad at me, but I think with the National Education Association is well known to be politically active.
I used to have a sponsor, the Orange Juice Growers of Florida, and they mounted a national ban way back in the early 90s to have the orange growers not advertise.
They had nothing to do with education.
They're a very political group, and they're very, very liberal.
And to liberals, liberalism is the motivating thing in their lives.
And the education system is the greatest opportunity they have to get hold of young, impressionable minds and to shape them into the worldview that liberals think is right and that everybody should have.
This is why Al Gore's movie is being shown to second and third graders all the way up to sixth graders because they're trying to inculcate or indoctrinate in as many of these kids as possible in their minds that Gore's version of global warming is indeed fact because they know these kids are going to grow up and the thing they're trying to get them tuned to is that government's great.
The bigger the government is, better, and rely on government for all the answers.
Oh, look at the multicultural curricula in all these schools.
The founding of the country was, well, the discovery of the country was unjust and immoral.
And everything that's happened since then has been one giant crime from slavery to kicking off.
Yeah, yeah, I completely understand that part of your point.
But the thing is, is that you're assuming that they're organized enough to understand even the basis of their goal.
And the problem is they don't have that much control.
Listen, there's a lot of, you know, most of what you say, I absolutely don't respect.
I don't like our presidency.
I am about as far liberal as you can be.
I'm a pacifist.
My biggest hero is Gandhi.
But I don't even want to get into all that.
What I want to do is get into what I agree on and what I know.
I failed out of high school at the age of 15.
My school counselor came to me and said, look, you're too smart to be here and to be on the five-year program.
We want you to take a test and get out of here.
And most schools wouldn't care about that.
This is what he said word for word.
Most schools would not care about this, but we're more concerned about our graduation rate than to get funding for you to be here for an extra year.
So we want you to take a test and get out.
So he was saying he is the exception to the rule.
Right.
And the problem is that when you don't have a workforce, imagine any job in the world.
Imagine your job.
And imagine your job had nothing to do with the amount of listeners that you got.
Imagine the commercials were guaranteed, paid every day.
Okay?
And the only thing you had to do was count paperclips on your desk every morning.
Well, your workplace would turn into something completely politically motivated.
And it would be whoever could manipulate whatever power they had in your office would get a job.
We agree.
We agree.
You just don't know it yet.
Using the scenario you just described, if the commercials are going to be there, and if my show is guaranteed, and it doesn't matter to me whether I have an audience, which, by the way, that's my own constitution, it's not possible.
I could not work that way.
But if that scenario presented itself, I would have total freedom.
And if I happened to be an ideologue and nothing else, then I would use the forum I had if that's what I cared most about.
I'm telling you, you admitted you're a liberal, and I understand that.
There's too much that's been going on in the public school system all the way up to major institutions of higher learning to just discount the notion that ideology and a desire to influence as many people as possible politically and ideologically is the driving force of the powers that run the education system.
Maybe the teachers couldn't care less about it, but they're part of it.
Okay, we got to take a top of the hour time out here, ladies and gentlemen.
It's normally scheduled, part of the programming format.
We will continue after the break here at the top of the hour.
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