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Dec. 22, 2006 - Rush Limbaugh Program
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December 22, 2006, Friday, Hour #1
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Welcome to today's edition of the Rush 24-7 Podcast.
Well, Merry Christmas, everybody.
Ho ho ho ho and all that.
Despite long odds, we are here today at the EIB Network and the EIB Southern Command.
We're here on time, and as far as anybody is concerned, it's been as smooth as silk this morning.
But it was only mere moments ago that we had to put out a fire started by a candle with some cheap stuff that was supposed to be Christmas tree branches.
Flammable.
We caught it in time.
We're here.
Live from the Southern Command in sunny South Florida.
It's open line Friday.
And I'm going to tell you there's more smoke in this place than all of the cigars I have smoked here over the years combined.
Fast action by me and Brian, Snerdley on the cleanup, and we're all seated and ready to go here on Open Line Friday, 800-282-2882, the email address rush at EIBNet.com.
What do you got?
What did I say that's not right?
If I hadn't started shouting fire, you wouldn't you guys wouldn't have known it.
You're off in your oblivion there eating your chocolate covered pretzels.
800 282-2882.
And if I hadn't gone in there to see you about the we had a missing UPS package, we've been trying to track that down.
If I hadn't gone in to see what you were doing about that, nobody would have seen the smoke until it was too late.
And then uh head of the curves, you know, my instincts have never failed me here.
I looked up there.
I've never seen a candle, so I walked out there and we had about one of these Christmas trees well four candles sitting in their little uh I don't know, cheap little black uh holders and uh candle wax dripped over into the uh into the decorations, which should not have been flammable.
Uh but uh they they obviously were.
So um anyway, we got it all put out with fire extinguisher.
Brian did that, tried to put it out with a shirt first, realized too big for that.
Got the fire extinguisher, and uh and snerdily was out trying to clean the uh the black soot off the windows and just smeared the windows even worse than they were.
But I'm just kidding.
It was fast action.
All right, you know the rules open line Friday.
When we go to the phones, the program is all yours.
I mean, you can talk about whatever you want.
I don't have to care about it.
Monday through Thursday, of course, I don't talk about it unless I care about it.
But on Friday, uh, and this is a giant career risk that I take, but I take it with pride and excitement and eager anticipation.
So whatever is on your mind today, questions, comments, complaints.
Uh remember yesterday in the last hour of the program, we uh featured a stack of uh Christmas stories from the Associated Press that were designed to convince everybody that everybody's miserable and angry, and that there's nothing happy about the uh holiday season as it has unfolded.
Uh so it's the the and and we've got we've got um some similarly troubling news uh to report to you as well today.
Want to try to have fun lighthearted and and uh take ourselves into the uh the Christmas weekend in the best possible spirit in that light.
Here's uh the the stories that the drive-by media can t run continue to um uh make me chuckle.
AP has a story called Traditions Are Important.
Now, this this sort of like reminds me uh of the Time magazine cover back in the 90s that was it was a cover.
Uh new studies indicate that men and women are actually born different.
Now, for somebody to consider that to be news, cover story news, what must they have thought before they read the study?
Along comes this story from the Associated Press.
Traditions are important.
Must shock them enough that they think it's worth doing a fairly long story about.
Tradition often trumps the trendy during the Christmas season.
People send traditional Christmas cards through the mail far more than they send greeting cards by email.
Most people think it's okay to have Christmas decorations at public buildings, even though it occasionally Draws protests and lawsuits.
See, most people think it's okay to have Christmas decorations at public buildings, even though it occasionally draws protests and lawsuits from the offended.
But clearly, even though most people think it's okay.
So we've got the the tyranny of the minority that's being acknowledged here, and I I detect that you gotta read between the lines here.
I know how to read the stitches in a fastball.
And this little paragraph here that is the lead of the story.
Uh most people think it's okay to have Christmas decorations at public hearings and public buildings.
They're surprised by that.
That shocks them.
There are obviously people in the drive-by media, the left obviously think that most Americans don't want to offend anybody with their traditional Christmas behaviors, characteristics, celebrations, decorations, and so forth.
It just means they're going to be working harder on this in uh ensuing years.
Many people long for the days when businesses routinely told customers merry Christmas rather than the more politically correct happy holidays or seasons greetings, but nearly half are not bothered by the broader greeting.
Yes, my friends, it's a poll.
These are the findings of an APAOL news poll.
I think we should stick with the traditional things we were raised with, said Melanie Sadler, 31, bringing up her family in Livingston, Tennessee.
I think we're getting away from what's important in life.
We forget why we have Christmas.
When people say happy holidays, it turns the season more commercial.
Here's some of the interesting things the poll found.
People were four times as likely to send traditional Christmas cards as opposed to send greeting cards by email.
They were twice as likely to call somebody on the phone with holiday greetings as to send an email.
People are divided on whether it's a good thing or bad thing that businesses often greet their customers by saying happy holidays instead of Merry Christmas.
About half 48% said it's uh it's good, and almost as many, 42%, said that it is bad.
Now, why is that so high?
Why are 42% think it's not good to be greeted with Merry Christmas in a in a business?
Well, obviously, these are very sensitive people.
Uh the new pacifists among us who uh who think that it might offend somebody.
Might hurt somebody's feelings.
So we can't, you know, we're gonna we're gonna learn to accommodate everybody, which means we have to learn to accommodate uh various minorities.
And I'm talking about numerical minorities here, uh not racial or ethnic.
Seventy percent uh of the people in the poll say that they will use the internet for Christmas shopping as much or more as in past years.
Nine in ten people say it's appropriate for public buildings to have Christmas decorations.
Nine in ten.
And yet we can't do it.
Without a whole lot of hassle and argument and lawsuits.
The poll of a thousand adults was taken December 12th through the 14th, and has a margin of who cares with the margin of error.
The growing popularity of the internet is not keeping shoppers away from the stores, the uh poll suggested.
And mailing traditional Christmas cards remain very popular, though not as much among young pipes.
Uh, those over fifty were much more likely to have sent traditional Christmas cards than those in the 18 to 29 uh age group.
Bottom line, AP stunned here that so much tradition thrives and lives at Christmas time, so much so that they felt the need to do a story about it.
Brief time out, we'll come back, get to your phone calls, and are we having trouble with phone calls?
Is that the next thing you haven't told me?
It can't be the fire, and it can't be UPS.
So what's gone wrong with the phone lines?
We can't figure it out.
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800 282-2882 breaking news out of Raleigh, North Carolina.
W R A L T V there.
Channel 5 is reporting that the district attorney Mike Nifwong has moved today to drop all rape charges against the three Duke University Lacrosse players.
That's all it says on their website.
I am looking at it even as uh uh uh doing the program here.
That's all it says.
It's a Christmas miracle.
It's uh uh well it's a it's a it's obviously a great Christmas present for these guys, but there's this is there there's there's gonna be much more to this uh in the ensuing days here.
Durham District, because where do these guys go to get their reputations back now?
Where do these guys go?
What look at all that happened, the lacrosse team was shut down.
Uh I mean, i this is uh uh this whole thing has been a travesty.
And Nyf Wong apparently, if this little blurb on the uh Channel 5 Raleigh, North Carolina website is uh is accurate, has uh uh dropped the charges or has moved to drop the charges against the three Duke Lacrosse players today.
Uh that's all well and good, but this still, you know, how did this happen in the first place?
Our criminal justice system is designed to protect the innocent.
We all know how this happened.
It was politics and it was race.
Now, speaking of Duke University, I had a story here in the stack uh that I was going to share with you today uh before I even knew that the uh little blurb was going to run that Knife Wong is dropping charges.
This is from the Raleigh News and Observer, dogged by months of damaging news stories about the lacrosse scandal, Duke University has launched a costly campaign of alumni dinners, national surveys, and aggressive recruitment.
The effort, which includes a 12 city tour by the president, Richard Broadhead, and an entourage of faculty and students is part of a larger push to blunt publicity generated by gang rape allegations involving lacrosse players.
The charges resulted, and they get listen to this.
The charges resulted in an embarrassing examination of the school's social and academic culture.
That is not what was embarrassing about this.
What was embarrassing was the inexcusable way and the cowardly way that the uh the the the faculty and the administration at Duke University responded to the allegations.
What was embarrassing was the way the faculty responded.
How they threw their customers, the students, under a bus driven by a politically motivated district attorney.
They didn't question it at all.
This is this is just typical.
I I I this is this kind of thing makes me cringe.
Um all of the all of the circumstantial evidence from the moment this case was announced cast doubt on these charges.
Everybody had doubts about it, but look at what happened.
This is a great drive-by media example.
Drive-by show up, and they start launching all kinds of ammo and stuff and get everybody on fire.
They just incendiated a place.
And the uh we had stories about how these are wealthy, white, privileged elitist athletes, and how they're automatically they've got to be guilty.
Why this is a racist society, and why this is Durham, North Carolina.
Well, we know what Durham, North Carolina is this is a South.
And we know that racism lives.
And we had this poor black woman who was just struggling to feed her baby uh by uh stripping and uh showing up at parties like this and so forth.
The presumption of guilt from the moment the charges were filed establishes a point that I have been making since my own little run-in with the criminal justice.
And it is, and this is, by the way, this is not political.
They're just it there is in our society uh this uh this this total respect for law enforcement.
They have infinite credibility.
If they say, if they leak any details of a story to the drive-by media, and the story results with the phrase uh sources close to the investigations, everybody just believes it.
Because everybody has a very high opinion of law enforcement.
Why would they lie?
I mean, they aren't there catching the bad guys.
They are the the one thing that protects us from total anarchy.
That what why why would they make it up?
Why would they lie?
So it's just a natural predisposition on the part of uh all of us to accept what law enforcement says as gospel.
And I think it in this case, this is one of the most glaring examples of that uh that there could have been, and it was it was epitomized and led by the sheer panic at Duke University.
Uh I call these students customers.
These students pay or are on scholarship.
They're doing something to earn their way into this university.
And the first mention of any of these kinds of charges, the university still I wonder if they're gonna still do their image campaign.
I wonder if they're still gonna do this.
I wonder if they're gonna do their 12 city tour with the president and an honorage of faculty uh part of their larger push to blunt publicity generated by gang rape allegations involving the lacrosse players.
Duke officials are not gonna say how much the image makeover costs, but its reach is extensive.
Uh I've told trustees going to take two to five years to recover f recover from what?
They didn't do anything.
Unless you want to say that kids having a party in their house is bad for a university's image, and I think that's going to be a tough sell.
I don't think anybody out there expects that everybody at Duke is in bed by 9 30 at night and up by six or five, hitting the books, working out, going to practice or what have what image they have to rebuild.
The image they have to rebuild is that they are not open minded.
The image that they have to rebuild is that they're reactionary and that they're maybe not willing to accept the word of their students.
They shut down the whole lacrosse operation over this.
The signs that the Duke's recruitment efforts could take a hit from the lacrosse fallout.
This story was published, by the way, uh today.
The university's early decision applications dropped by nearly twenty percent this fall, and officials can see the decrease was uh related partly to the scandal.
The regular application deadline isn't until uh January something or other.
So it's all for naught.
It doesn't it mean anything.
Duke would not have a reputation to have to repair if they had just sat back and let this uh stuff play out, or maybe if they had aggressively sought the truth themselves, uh and not presumed the guilt automatically.
See, this is you talk about guilt.
It was precisely that that made the Duke administration react the way it did.
Oh my gosh, it's gotta be true.
White guy's like, oh, that's gotta be true.
Uh, not because they're administrators, because they're liberals.
And that's just the way they look at these kinds of things.
And and uh so now Knife is dropping the charges or has moved um to drop the charges.
The defense is saying this, by the way.
Uh, but it's all over the website uh W R A L Channel 5 and Raleigh, and now the uh cable nets are starting to pick uh pick up the uh of the story.
Luke in Lexington, you're uh you're next.
Welcome to the EIB network, sir.
Hello.
Hey, Rush, Mega Diddle from Lexington, Kentucky.
I I always knew that you dealt with hot topics, but not enough to catch something on fire.
Yeah, well, I just want you I tried to blow it out too, and that did not work.
Hot air on a fire does not do anything but uh usually.
Hey, uh, I wanted to ask you uh a Christmas question.
Yeah.
Um my favorite Christmas album is the Christmas song by Nat King Cole.
Yeah, I love that I love it.
You had a I wondered if you had a uh favorite Christmas album.
Uh, you know, there's so many of them that I grew up listening to, and I don't remember them all, but I do love that one.
Um I the some of the um some of the Carpenter's Christmas songs were just absolutely superb too.
Yeah.
But look, I mean, I'm uh I'm a manheim steamroller guy.
That's true.
Uh and I you know the the at the time that I encountered and learned about Manheim Steamroller was in the nineteen eighties when I was in uh in Sacramento, and uh there was uh just a uh tremendous sentimental attachment to it.
I I know I was I was um well I don't want to get I I was traveling at 35,000 feet on a crystal clear night on a trip to California from New York, uh and I knew my father was dying, and this music connected me with God.
It was uh it was it's it's it that this Manheim steamroller, and I've told Chip Davis of the group this it's it's gonna be with me for the rest of my days.
Back in a second.
Okay, have some more details now.
They're trickling out.
Uh all the charges have not been dropped in the Duke Lacrosse case.
The rape charges have been dropped against all three, but the um uh DA said that he plans to proceed with kidnapping and sexual assault charges against the uh the three players.
He's simply dropping the rape uh charges.
And there's a reason for that.
There isn't any evidence of rape uh in any of the DNA testing.
Uh the contradictory statements the accuser's friend has uh has really just destroyed her whole concept that the accuser's pregnant is uh got got pregnant two weeks after uh the alleged rapes took place.
But Nyphon's not dropping the whole thing.
Um plans to proceed with kidnapping and sexual assault charges against the uh three players.
Nyfwang's investigator interviewed the uh the uh victim, the alleged victim, yesterday, and she told investigators that she couldn't testify with certainty that she was raped.
This is the first time Nyphong spoke to her.
So um she picked him out.
What can't be certain she was raped?
She couldn't testify with certainty she was wait a minute.
That doesn't jive with anything that we have been taught about rape.
You get raped, you know it.
This is still a mess, uh total mess.
This is a safe uh some sort of a uh face-saving move, obviously.
Also breaking news from ABC News.
They uh are reporting that they have learned that Al Qaeda operatives in Greater London are being encouraged to strike during the Christian holiday.
Well, why not?
Of course we deserve it, ladies, and we deserve to be hit, particularly on the highest Christian holiday.
Well, we deserve to be hit.
Absolutely.
I mean, that's we need to get our just desserts for all these years of poisoning the world and dominating the world and destroying resources and creating havoc and causing pollution.
We deserve everything we get.
Seth in uh Del High, Louisiana, you're next on the EIB network.
Hello, sir.
Hey.
Hello.
Yes.
Hello, do you hear me?
I hear you.
Let's go.
Okay.
Um I wanted to know if it was more the police, the prosecutors leaking this information, because my understanding it was more the prosecutor's office leaking all this information, not the police.
Wait, in this particular case?
In the Duke Rake case.
Uh look.
It's both.
You think?
Well, of course.
It's not the DA himself.
I haven't got people in the office that'll leak.
I mean, the the the it's the this whole thing's been done in the media.
The whole purpose of this was to put it in the media to help Naiphong's primary re-election chances last spring.
I agree with that.
And you can't get it in the media unless you leak it.
My understanding it was the prosecutor's office that was uh making all the uh press announcements uh and the like.
Well, Naiphong is making some press announcements.
There's no I thought you were asking me about leaks.
Leaks.
Well, press announcement is not a leak.
I understand that.
All right.
So uh well, I'm stu uh uh now I'm confused.
Are you asking me if it's cops that leak and the prosecutor didn't, or vice versa, or the both?
What I'm saying is my understanding is it was the prosecutor's office that leaked all the information, not the police.
Uh okay.
Uh are are you bouncing off the fact that I have just said that law enforcement leaks things and law you're interpreting law enforcement as police?
Yes.
Ah, okay.
Uh law enforcement is everybody wears a badge.
The DA has a badge.
He doesn't wear it, but they all have badges.
He is the boss of the cops.
He's the boss of the police chief, in a sense.
Well, the sheriff, uh, sheriff's department.
He can uh he he's he's above them in his office, gets the information and decides whether or not to prosecute a crime, and the collection of that evidence ends up with him in a situation like this in his office, and so uh law enforcement can be anybody.
Cops.
Uh DA, uh PR person of DA's office, who knows?
It could be a secretary, leaks can come from anywhere, and they do.
It's the name of the game.
Uh Dave in Corona, California.
Welcome to the EIB Network Sur on Open Line Friday.
Rush, thanks for taking my call.
This is something I feel very passionate about, and uh it's very important to me in near and dear as when you said uh the schools are more than happy to uh uh hang their customers out to dry.
Uh uh i it's always been more the rule than the exception with with with any public publicly funded education in America.
Um I I think it's amazing that a lot of people don't even realize how much money goes into education and who's happy with it, who's who's pleased with it.
And I'd like to talk a lot about uh what I think the root problem was with the system is.
Firstly, you're absolutely right.
People have no clue how much money goes into education.
Um I think that they would be stunned if it could be explained uh in an in an understandable way to them.
But it's it's like, well, we're gonna increase the defense department by uh 99 billion dollars.
Nobody can visualize that.
That's not a simple number.
I mean, Ted Kennedy and um and the president uh in the in his first term signed an education bill that uh spent st spending through the roof, uh something to the tune of seven hundred billion dollars, then we have the no child left behind, that costs some more money, and still every year and every campaign, we need more money for education.
We need more money, and the the the return we're getting on the investment certainly doesn't match uh what we should be getting.
We had far greater education results at all levels in grades years and years and years ago when we didn't spend nearly as much money on it.
Uh what's your theory about what went wrong when?
Well, i i it's not a theory.
Uh no child left behind was a good act, and I I I memory serves screp, but that's that's the one by uh uh President Bush, right?
That's correct.
Okay.
That one was the one that the teachers' unions were very, very, very upset about.
And I think it's the best thing Bush has done is uh as uh in his presidency, and that is to put metrics on the performance of teachers.
Everybody out there that's listening to this program is measured in answers to a boss that says, including you, uh that says uh you need to do X, Y, and Z during your job, and it's measured based on you know how many calls you get, how many customers you get, how many listeners you have.
But public education is not measured by how much they teach.
They're measured by attendance.
There's only one thing every school in America does, and that is take attendance because they're paid on attendance.
That's right.
Everything else is negotiable, including teaching students the ability to read.
They can get paid and not even teach somebody to read, but as long as they get attendance, they get paid.
If they don't do attendance, they don't get paid.
Precisely right.
This is this is uh there are many reasons for this, but one of the primary reasons is that unions negotiate these contracts, and uh unions are very politically involved and they can extract a lot of uh uh give back for the money that they donate to various candidates.
Exactly right, exactly right.
And uh the teachers union in in America is one of the hugest unions because there's so many people in it, there's so much money in it.
And I think the American public is mostly uh uh ignorant to it because I don't think the media wants to touch it.
I think you're one of the few people that would even be brave enough to bring it up.
Uh uh and this is a huge, huge thing.
I I think the drive-by media wouldn't even be as as bold as they are if education was better in America, and I I think it's great that people like President Bush and and other funding is being tied to how much people learn and how much uh people teach.
But let me ask you huge resistance to it.
Let me ask you this, Dave.
We're talking with Dave of Corona, California.
Um I always like looking at motivation.
Uh when in when in discussing things like this.
You just laid it out pretty well.
Uh there is uh i there is very little accountability for teachers in this country today based on what they teach.
Whereas everybody else's job performance is rated on their productivity or their achievement or accomplishment.
In school, as long as the attendance is there, everything is considered to be hunky-dory because of the payback for it.
Now, why do you think this is?
Aside aside from the fact that you you can cite a couple of unions here and there which negotiate contracts for their workers that give them more time off, more vacation time, shorter work days and so forth.
Um that that's that's we all know this.
I've gotten in trouble even for saying it, even uh after we've proven it to be true in the case of a couple unions.
But besides that, Besides the uh desire of unions to always get more money for less work, what do you think the motivation is for not teaching people to read?
What do you think the motivation is for not caring about results in school?
You don't need a motivation.
You don't need a motivation.
The only thing you need is a lack of observable productivity.
If you take any workforce, it doesn't matter how important your job is, it doesn't matter how uh a valuable or or how much people believe in their job.
If you have a system where where workers are not measured based on how much they work, and they're not rewarded based on how much they work, everything becomes political.
If you talk to any very competent teacher, they will express a lot of frustration to you about how the system works and that how they could do an exceptional job in inspiring students to learn and inspiring students to overachieve, and there's no reward for it.
And the question is why?
Well, because they're members of unions.
That's the one thing.
A union negotiates contract for masses of groups of people, and whether the individual worker uh or teacher outshines any of the others are still going to get paid the same based on the union contract.
So that's uh that's that there isn't any financial motivation aside from what your union is going to give you uh to outshine or do anything uh no financial motivation to do anything better.
There might be uh devotion to career, but this leads me to the next question.
Most people uh in this country for the longest time, and I think many of them still have uh uh of a glowing opinion of the public schools, and they believe that people in the education system from the top down are genuinely interested in educating American children.
No, I I don't think they believe that at all.
Who doesn't believe that at all?
Who doesn't believe it?
I I think for the most part, people don't believe it.
You you'll talk to people, and all of these people will say, we need more money in education.
Education's very important.
You won't hear a lot of glowing uh enthusiasm for the job that we're doing.
I think a lot of people acknowledge there is a problem in education.
Nobody understands what that problem is.
Well uh th those two might not totally accompany each other.
If they realize there's a problem, they have to have some idea why.
But look, let me take a break because I've I'm I'm up to it on time, but I've I'm gonna find a different way to phrase the question.
Um I'm talking about image, the image that education this country, you just said it yourself.
Uh everybody constantly kids got to get educated.
I want my kids to get educated.
And I when parents have a chance who can't afford it to get their kids out of public schools, they take it.
Why?
Why do they do this?
They know something's not right in there.
My question to you is with all this image that people have had of public education that it is fabulous, that it's important, and that people in it genuinely care about education.
Look at when I went to school, my my parents told me that teachers were always right.
They had the utmost respect for it, and so did I. Those teachers were brilliant.
They were not politicizing anything and they were not proselytizing and they were not indoctrinating.
And I'm going back to the 50s and 60s.
Something's changed somewhere along the line, that doesn't happen now.
It it obviously doesn't when so many graduates can't read the diploma.
As you brought up now.
The motivation for what's happening to the public school system on the part of people who run it is interesting to me.
Back in just a second.
And we are back.
It's open line Friday, Rush Limbaugh on the EIB network, and we're talking with uh Dave in Corona, California.
Dave, let me rather than uh asking leading questions, let me just tell you what I think is the answer to my question, you can respond to that, since our time is short.
Uh I don't I don't think that the lack of performance, either by students or teachers in the public school system is simply because there's no uh remuneration or compensation for excellent effort.
Uh I I think it goes deeper than that, and I think it goes to who runs public education.
And this is where you may get mad at me.
But I think uh with the the National Education Association is is well known to be politically active.
They have I used to have a sponsor, the uh the orange juice growers of Florida, and they they they mounted a national ban way back in the early 90s to uh to have the orange orange growers not advertise.
That had nothing to do with education.
They're a very political group, and they're very, very liberal.
And to liberals, Liberalism is the motivating thing in their lives.
And the education system is the greatest opportunity they have to get hold of young, impressionable minds, and to shape them into the worldview that liberals think is right and that everybody should have.
This is why Al Gore's movie is being shown to second and third graders all the way up to sixth graders, because they're trying to inculcate or indoctrinate in as many of these kids as possible in their minds.
That Gore's version of global warming is indeed fact because they know these kids are going to grow up, and the uh the the thing they're trying to get them tuned to is that government's great.
The bigger the government is better, uh, and rely on government for all the answers.
Uh oh, look at the multicultural curricula in all these schools.
Uh the founding of the country was uh uh well the discovery of the country was unjust and immoral, uh, and everything that's happened since then has been uh one giant crime from slavery to kicking up.
Yeah, yeah, I I I completely understand that that part of your point.
But the the thing is is that you're assuming that they're organized enough to understand even the basis of their goal.
And the problem is they don't have that much control.
Listen, listen, uh I I don't I there's a lot of, you know, most of what you say I absolutely don't respect.
I don't like our presidency.
I am about as far liberal as you can be.
I'm I'm a pacifist, my biggest hero is Gandhi, but but I don't even want to get into all that.
What I want to do is get into what I agree on and what I know.
I uh I failed out of high school at at the age of fifteen.
My my school counselor came to me and said, Look, you're too smart to be here and and to be on the five-year program.
We want you to take a test and get out of here.
And and most schools wouldn't care about that.
This is what he said word for word.
Most schools would not care about this, but we're more concerned about our graduation rate than to get funding for you to be here for an extra year.
So we want you to take a test and get out.
So he was saying he is the exception to the rule.
Right.
And and and the problem is is that when you don't have a workforce, i i imagine any job in the world.
Imagine your job.
And imagine your job had nothing to do with the amount of listeners that you got.
Imagine the commercials were guaranteed, paid every day.
Okay.
And the only thing you had to do was uh count paper clips on your desk every morning.
Well, your your workplace would turn into something completely politically motivated.
And it would be whoever could manipulate whatever power they had in your office would get a job.
We agree.
We agree.
You just don't know it yet.
Using the scenario you just described, if the commercials are gonna be there, and if my show is guaranteed, and it doesn't matter to me whether I have an audience, which by the way, that's my own constitution, that's not possible.
I I I I I could not work that way.
I just it's it would but if that scenario presented itself, I would have total freedom.
And if I happen to be an ideologue and nothing else, then I would use the forum I had if that's what I cared most about.
I'm telling you, I uh you you admitted you're a you're a liberal, and I understand that there's too much that's been going on in the public school system all the way up to major institutions of higher learning to just discount the notion that ideology and a desire to influence as many people as possible politically and ideologically is the driving force of the powers that run the education system.
Maybe the teachers couldn't care less about it, but they're they're part of it.
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