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Sept. 13, 2006 - Rush Limbaugh Program
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September 13, 2006, Wednesday, Hour #3
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I tell you what, time is zipping by here, ladies and gentlemen.
We're already at a final hour of our busy broadcast today from the Excellence in Broadcasting Network, E.I.B., a network named by me and after me.
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Uh Drudge has a little blurb here of a Robert Novak column that is going to be published tomorrow.
When Richard Armitage finally acknowledged last week that he was my source three years ago in revealing Valerie Plame Wilson as a CIA employee, Armitage obscured what he really did, Novak claims.
Novak, attempting to set the record straight, writes this.
First, Armitage did not, as he now indicates, merely pass on something he had heard and that he thought might be so.
Rather, he identified to me the CIA division where Mrs. Wilson worked and said flatly that she recommended the mission to Niger by her husband.
Uh former ambassador Joseph Wilson.
Second, Armitage did not slip me this information as idle chit-chat as he now suggests.
He made clear he considered it especially suited for my column.
Let's go back last week on the CBS Evening News, I think it was Thursday, Armitage being interviewed by uh CBS reporter David Martin.
And Martin says, So what was it that made the light go on to you, Mr. Armitage?
I was reading a newspaper column again of Mr. Novak, and he said he was told by a nonpartisan gunslinger.
I almost immediately called Secretary Powell and said, I'm sure that was me.
I always thought that sounded odd.
I mean, you know you told Novak, and then you read it in a newspaper and you say partisan not a partisan gunslinger, and you think it's you when you know it's you.
And Novak is saying, this is this is this is more obfuscation.
This is not at all what happened.
And then uh uh he goes, he went on to say in the interview that it was uh uh Patrick Fitzgerald, the special prosecutor, that told him shut up and not say anything about this all during the uh nearly three-year period that this is dragged on.
So again, Novak writes first Armitage did not, as he now indicates, merely pass on something he had heard and that he thought might be so.
Rather, he identified to me, the CIA division where Mrs. Wilson worked and said flatly that she did recommend the mission to Niger by her husband, former Ambassador Joseph Wilson.
Harry, they're still out there lying about that.
Second, writes Novak, Armitage did not slip me this information as idle chit-chat, as he now suggests.
He made clear.
He considered it especially suited for my column.
Well, that's even stranger when he's saying, well, I've read Novak's column as partisan gunslinger.
Oh, my God, it might be me.
Well, he knew it was him all along.
Novak also slams Armitage for holding back all this time.
Armitage's silence for two and one-half years caused intense pain for his colleagues in government and enabled partisan Democrats in Congress to falsely accuse Carl Rove of being my primary source, Novak explains.
When Armitage now says that he was mute, because of Special Prosecutor Fitzgerald's request, that does not explain his silent three months between his claimed first Realization he was the source, and Fitzgerald's appointment on December 30th.
Armitage's tardy self-disclosure is tainted because it is deceptive.
Hmm, makes me wonder what Armitage was thinking.
Going out there and speaking, knowing that Novak was going to contradict him, or could if he wanted to, and has apparently, in a column that is uh that is going to run tomorrow.
I mentioned this earlier.
This is an associated press story.
World has tapped just 18% of global oil supplies, according to a Saudi executive.
The world tapped only 18% of the total global supply of crude, says Abdullah S. Juma, president and CEO of the state-owned Saudi Arabian oil company, better known as Aramco, said the world has the potential for four and a half trillion barrels in reserves.
That's enough to power the world at current levels of consumption for another 140 years.
Giant, see, I told you so here.
Oil executives are also saying this, but of course, nobody's going to report this because the drive-by media and the libs action line on this is hybrids and alternative fuels.
We've got to get away from it, Mythilimba.
We just have to because they're running out of oil.
It pollutes the even if we're not running out of oil, it's polluting that's causing global warming and blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.
Well, he went on to reiterate uh the world has only consumed about 18% of its conventional potential.
When nations uh Rex W. Tillerson, by the way, the chairman of Exxon Mobil, sss.
That's a hiss.
All you gotta do is say Chairman ExxonMobil libs go boo.
Murderer, polluter.
When nations uh threaten to stop this flow, it stocks stops economic progress worldwide, Tillerson said.
Uh he said that the uh world demand for oil will increase by 50% in the next decade.
So this is uh this is bad news for the uh for the liberals out there, ladies and gentlemen, for the church of the environment.
Uh technology continues to find better and more efficient ways to extract all that we need and better, more efficient ways to use it.
Uh and of course, all this has to do with the market rather than regulations from government forcing any kind of change.
Um of course, I also think that as always, nature, which to me is God.
Well, I happen to believe in creation, and nature is not mother.
Uh yours, mine, or anybody else's.
Nature is God.
Uh and I always think it's better left alone, not regulated by a bunch of know nothing human beings who think they can do it better than God.
Uh one one would think that uh all of that efficiency would be hailed by the evangelists of the environmentalist wacko movement.
But of course, this is bad news to them.
All this oil is gonna depress them.
Bad news, global warming and uh and all of that.
We got lots of oil, lots and lots of it, without their regulations, without their doom and gloom.
Uh and the church of the environmentalist wacko is now going to be turned up side down.
Have you heard about this new Oh, by the way, I just uh Drudge just uh just posted this.
Apparently, Air America is gonna file for bankruptcy.
Uh this week or next, they'll continue to operate, but I knew that was coming.
I've been hearing the rumblings.
Uh financially bankrupt.
Yeah.
They've been morally bankrupt since they started, but I mean, before they started, but financially bankrupt.
Um now the the drive-by media is just is just having uh sort of like a uh a uh vagina monologue moment here with the uh with the announcement that Gloria Steinem and Jane Fonda and Rosie O'Donnell have mounted a radio talk show network to uh to uh uh challenge me.
And one uh one of the stories here uh I've got to find this, get the right uh uh determination here, because the story I have is some newsmax, and what I want is the AP story on this, because it's all about how they've Got three stations that uh broadcast straight up.
You might be able to hear them five miles up, but you can't hear them ten feet outside a tower.
Let's see, where is it?
Uh ah, here we go.
Greenstone launches all women radio network.
Greenstone Media, a radio company whose founders include social activist Gloria Snyder and actress Jane Fonda has launched an all-women all talk network across the United States.
They got three stations.
Four.
They they pick off they got they've got four stations now.
Uh and you know what what they say about it is incredible.
They say that women are leaving talk radio in droves because it leaves them this that leaves them wanting.
They don't like people like me.
You women don't.
And they're leaving music radio because that's getting boring, and they want to go to all talk women radio put on by Jane Fonden and uh and Gloria Steinem.
But guess what it is that they're gonna offer?
They're not gonna offer bra-burning classes, they're not gonna talk about militant feminism or any of that.
They're gonna talk about children and cooking and home ek.
Feng shui, they're gonna do feng shui.
We did a morning update on this.
The icons of the feminist movement are gonna do a women's talk radio network, basically, which is in seventh or eighth grade home economics class.
Now, what does that tell you about what's become of the feminist movement?
And I I I have to say there already is a hugely successful uh uh women's talk radio network out there.
One woman does it, Dr. Loris Lessinger.
Uh but you know, folks, can I tell you something?
I I often don't indulge in this inside baseball kind of talk.
I leave that to others.
Because I stick to the issues here.
But isn't it amazing if if I if I just may do this for a moment before we go to commercial break.
In 1988, when the EIB network debuted on 56 radio stations, nobody gave it a chance because it had never succeeded in the daytime before.
Syndicated radio was always at night when they didn't have to sell advertising.
They used it as a loss leader.
So um at the time in 1988, we had ABC, CBS, NBC, and CNN.
And that was it.
We also had the Democrats controlling Congress with Ronaldo's Magnus leaving office and George Bush 41 assuming office.
Well, here we are in 2006.
And virtually every Democrat thinks and has thought for a while, that if they are to reverse their plummeting fortunes, they have to find a way to succeed in radio.
They tried Governor Kumo.
They tried Jim Hightower.
They tried Gary Hart.
They've tried I mean the list goes on and on.
Air America was supposed to be the salvation.
Now it's going bankrupt in the answer.
That doesn't mean anything.
That's okay.
They serve their purpose.
Now progressive radio is firmly established.
Tom Dashell, after the 2002 elections, talked to some experts and was appalled when he learned that Democrats actually listened to this program and others, and have on occasion changed their minds and become conservatives.
So it's it's just it's sort of undeniable that when the liberals think of their waning fortunes, they blame it on me and conservative talk radio, and think if they are to reverse those fortunes, they somehow have to find a way.
I mean, everybody.
Whoopi Goldberg is doing.
People have never done radio before, doing everybody's got to get a radio show.
At least satellite people, everybody is doing a radio show.
And in 1988, radio was thought to be dead.
Was thought to be on its last legs, other than the long-haired maggot-infested FM types.
AM radio certainly was thought to be dead.
And now everybody wants to be on it.
All the libs have got to have their radio show.
It's more important to have a radio show than it is to address the United Nations, as far as they're concerned.
We'll be back.
Stay with us.
Don't go away.
Righto, back to the phones now on the EIB network.
Uh Michelle in Dearborn, Michigan.
Thank you for waiting, and welcome to the EIB network.
Hi, Rush.
Uh, I've been a longtimer since your uh program was here in Detroit on TV.
I'm a right-wing conservative, and I'm also a Muslim.
And I took a sense to the um Islamic fascist, not because of the word fascist.
Um it's because they're associated with Islam.
You can call them subhumans, call them murderers, call them fascists, call them whatever you want, but they're not Islamic.
Um you said something earlier that they are marching to the orders of the Quran, and I just like to correct you on that because they are not.
No, no, no, no, no, I know that, but that's what they say.
Right.
That's right.
You're right, I agree with you there, but the Quran does not condone the in the killing of innocent people.
And uh I just like to quote something Benjamin Natanyahu said one time, because he's a very uh influential man also, and he understands the region.
He said that they've taken one of the world's greatest religions and they've hijacked it.
And I think that's what they've done.
Well, I think I think I everybody that's uh informed on this understands that agrees with it.
Uh and uh th I think the term Islamo fascist uh it has roots in the way they Al Qaeda, the Taliban ran Afghanistan and how they run Somalia and other states when they do run states.
Uh but you know, let me ask a question about it.
Netanyahu says uh what he said and you quoted him.
Can you explain to me?
I'm I'm I'm just gonna take the occasion of your call here, and I don't even mean this personally.
I'm just trying to learn.
When you have these statements made by I don't care who the Zarkawi, al Zawahiri Bin Laden, it doesn't matter the the the guy at the at it that runs Hezbollah.
Why is there no outrage from people like you who reject what they say?
Why don't you stand up?
What is not you, but why why isn't there a a mass worldwide uprising condemning these people?
You know, I I I understand what you're saying, and actually there is a lot of rejection to what they say, but I think people are just not heard.
They're not heard, pe you know, the news media doesn't come and actually ask these people what they think because I personally am a Shi'ite Muslim, and if I go to certain parts of the world, you know, some par I could be killed because they consider me an infidel.
Even within the own my own religion.
It just goes to show what kind of people we're dealing with here, and it's n not all people believe me, most Muslims in the world don't ascribe to what these people are.
And they have nothing to do with Islam.
They're they're ashamed to our religion and they've put a black eye on our religion, and it's just not fearing.
You're a really intelligent man and people look up to you, and sometimes we go if you tell somebody you're a Muslim, they look at us like we're like kind of like the Ebola virus.
And I just was like you sometimes to make your listeners understand that Muslims aren't like that, that this is not what we ascribe to.
Yeah, you know, it uh I I uh I can understand what you're saying, but when you look at the names and the pictures of people that hijack airplanes or who get caught hijacking airplanes, uh uh i it's in mistake unmistakable uh that that they are uh well I don't know, Muslim, uh uh Arabic, Egyptian or what have you.
I mean it's it's you know, redheaded Irish people are not hijacking airplanes and flying them into buildings.
Right, I understand that.
But my point is is that they're a minority in the religion and they're not Muslims according to what we believe.
Um if you follow the Quran the way it is, these people are not Muslims.
They're subhuman as far as Well, but okay, then tell me this.
They're out there quoting the Prophet Muhammad all day, saying that Muhammad is telling every Muslim to kill every infidel, and that that was that's that's what Mohammed's mission was, and that they're just following the mission, and it is people like people like you who are being untrue to the faith.
That's not true because they're being untrue to the faith.
The prophet does never has never said to go kill innocent people.
He's never ascribed to that.
Nor does the Quran.
If you read the Quran, it's a very um it's a very peaceful book, and it teaches never to kill an innocent human being.
Not even an animal are we supposed to kill.
And what they're saying, I don't know where they get their ideology from.
Maybe it's rude rooted in lunacy, I don't know, but it's nothing to do with our religion, and I just like people to understand that.
Okay.
Well, I I appreciate the call.
I do think that what we have is a a radical ideology.
I I I think these people are hiding behind a religion to avoid any criticism and to guarantee themselves some sort of freedom, religious freedom, their beliefs are religious beliefs, so you can't condemn them.
Um you can't you can't uh imprison them for it, the These kinds of things.
It's pr it's pretty uh uh brilliantly conceived, especially to deal with uh an enemy com that that is governed by Western values such as the United States uh and the UK and Western Europe uh in that sense but but they they uh they are Islamic uh they're roots.
I mean I I've I've read enough to know what their founding uh uh positions are and how where they where they came from and that uh the grand mufti of uh of of Jerusalem met with Adolf Hitler back when and there is a you know there's a there's an anti Semitic aspect or a hatred of Jews aspect uh to these people and so forth.
I understand you feel being tarred by it uh but there got there has to be something to wake this country up as to who these people are and what they stand for and I think that's one of the reasons for the term okay back to the phones we go and we have Katie on the phone from Arlington Virginia Hi Katie nice to have you with us.
Hello Mr. Couldn't be better thank you.
Um yesterday you had talked about the Jim Moran rally in Arlington for nine eleven and you had mentioned the screaming girl and that was me.
Um and I just wanted to give you some more context to why I had such a violent outburst this this is fabulous.
Let's say what well let me let me uh let me play the sound bite that we had yesterday it's internet quality but it you will uh you will hear a woman who now we know is Katie uh interrupt Moran and then she's gonna give context here's the bite that happened it was Monday night in Arlington Virginia.
There are more people around the world who hate America and what they think it stands for than even life itself let us let us resolve.
All right so you said this isn't political and I got an email from some guy who said he heard you say that and also that there were people in the crowd telling you and others to be quiet that what happened to you and others who lost people on 91 that weren't important that uh that let the congressman speak.
Is that true too?
That is true.
Um I had actually said I was really upset because almost within less than a minute I mean maybe twenty seconds he got on the stage.
He he started thirty minutes late too which I thought was incredibly disrespectful.
But when he was finally on the stage he about twenty seconds into it he star well first of all he started saying that he was so proud of Arlington because we all came together and we all worked together and we were all one and then he said but on the national stage we haven't been as successful.
And then he went into international and started talking about Iraq literally within twenty seconds of his comment and I just felt my blood starting to boil.
I just wanted him to be a generic politician.
I wanted him to say a few kind words about the dead and let me go about my day.
That's really all I wanted from him and all I expected from him.
But when he started talking about the war or basically just how how hated we are I just felt my blood boil.
And I just burst out I said um my brother died on nine eleven you creep don't make this political and I I regretted it.
I felt so embarrassed for having just had such a violent outburst but but I just could not stand it.
He was so repugnant.
He was so disgusting he um like I said he started late he was just rambling about the the the war and I just felt like where's the mention of the victims of that day.
It was the fifth anniversary some mention of the victims would have been nice.
Did somebody actually say to you or to somebody else the that you heard it's been said to uh what happened to the victims is not important and you're not important let the congressman speak.
Yes after I had turned to go a man grabbed my arm and in retrospect I should have you know shoved him away but he grabbed my arm and he said you're not important your brother's not important let the congressman speak and I was at that point I started crying and I just fled why did you go in the first place?
Um ironically because I didn't want any drama at the Pentagon.
I just I feel very vulnerable.
I feel very I I still feel very sad.
I don't feel like I've moved on a whole lot and I just wanted something extremely low key and this this memorial was near my house and I thought you know I'll just walk over there it'll be very low key.
I'll Is Moran is Moran your congressman?
He is.
And funnily enough, my boyfriend has actually written two letters before um before this, telling him that he's got to keep the partisan stuff out of it because he sends out these newsletters where all he does is rant about Republicans.
And my boyfriend John has actually written him and said, you know, you represent all people in the district, not just Democrats, and try to keep that out of it.
But this was the final straw.
I just felt so like he's just absolutely worthless.
Well, have you voted for him, Katie, before you I no, no, I've never voted for him.
I vote Republican.
Uh well that's good.
But I think I you know, I uh there's always good in everything that happens if you dig deep enough to find it.
And in this I would say the good is that um you and probably a lot of other people found out just who Moran and his cohorts are.
To have a to have a a nine eleven memorial, which by the way, Democrats will soon thereafter complain about the president turning political.
Your congressman goes on and starts talking about how there are more people around the world who hate America and what they think it stands for than even life itself.
Uh this guy has a hate America problem himself.
He probably talking about himself and projecting it to all these other people.
Well, I certainly feel like he his only reason for life at this point seems to be to to disparage the president in our foreign policy.
And I felt like the that was just the wrong place.
I didn't want to hear that.
I just wanted something simple.
I wanted something about the victims, and I certainly didn't want to be told that my brother wasn't important.
What about the what was the reaction of others in the crowd?
Not to what happened to you, but what he was saying overall.
Um I think m for the most part people were pretty respectful.
They were just standing still.
I heard a little grumbling f um a little bit closer to him, but you know, I I didn't really see any outbursts or anything.
And when he got to to the part about, you know, we're so hated in the world, I just lost it.
Don't blame you.
Glad you did.
What you did was not a violent outburst because all you did was utter words.
But I you know suburban Washington is is becoming uh uh uh and has been for a while, it's getting even worse, extreme liberal.
Very much so.
Oh yeah.
When during the um the campaign the election campaign, I would walk down the street and there were literally carry people just on every corner, and I kept thinking, what happened to my little town, my little conservative Virginia town?
But it's not like that anymore.
It's extremely liberal.
Well, Katie, you went out there and you expressed your point of view, and there's no reason you shouldn't have.
Uh he didn't even acknowledge it, right?
He just went on.
He just went on.
Yeah.
But a couple of people were mad at me for for disrupting.
Like I said, the guy told me that I wasn't important and my brother wasn't important, which I mean well, it was clear i he was exactly right.
We weren't important there.
Um and and certainly to Jim Moran, we were not important.
Um what was important was getting his message out, which is that America sucks and Iraq is a mistake.
Right.
And so when uh and when John Boehner says it's apparent that the the some Democrats are more important or more concerned with protecting terrorists than they are with the American people, these people go nuts.
Democrats go crazy and act totally offended and outraged.
And yet, guys like Moran are out there talking about how terrorists hate the country and others hate the country.
And it's our fault that they do.
And I wonder why they come under such criticism, and I'm sure that he was probably a little stunned in the crowd that he drew to have a reaction like yours, too.
Well, I just I could not be quiet, and you're uh absolutely right.
I mean, he he's such a hip uh hypocrite, all of them are, it seems like these days.
I just wanted after nine eleven, I just wanted a very strong united force against the people who did this to my brother and the three thousand other people.
That's all I wanted, and I haven't got that.
I haven't got anything.
You're not gonna get it when you go to hear Jim Moran speak.
Um Katie, I'm gonna tell you that Jim Moran is part of this fringe m I don't know even how fringe it is.
It's becoming more and more mainstream in the Democratic Party, who really think George Bush is responsible for this, who think George Bush is worse than the terrorists, and they have outrage, And I think they've descended into the stages of near insanity and this is this is uh reflected in the kind of things that uh that you had to hear.
But I think that's a good thing.
You you're not you're you're not gonna go to another Moran rally expecting anything to hear uh about unity.
No, no.
But I mean, don't you agree with me that on nine eleven you should at least spend a couple of minutes, maybe just a fraction of the time talking about nine eleven and the victims.
They can't do that because th th I agree with you, but politically.
Why not?
Why can't they?
Well, because the the the the terrorists of nine eleven are not the enemy.
Bush is the enemy as far as these people are concerned.
I'm not I'm not joking, I'm not exaggerating.
I said yesterday, at least one day a year they have to admit that it happened.
The Democrats, Katie, are trying to construct scenarios in the American people's imagination where nine eleven didn't happen, or that it was just a mere little episode that doesn't represent a war, that the real hatred for this country didn't start until Bush went into a rock and and and that uh Bush represents the problem.
So if they come out and start going getting into all this uh uh you know i feigned unity and so forth, they have to admit we've got a common enemy, and they don't.
The enemy to them is Bush, and I am not again exaggerating.
And that's why you didn't hear him doing it.
You're probably correct, but also I figured out why um you had said that they have to admit at least one day of the year that nine eleven happened, and I figured that out.
It's the same thing with Katrina.
They're congratulating themselves on their coverage of nine eleven.
They're not really mourning that day.
They're not they're not gonna be able to do that.
Exactly.
Very perceptive.
The television coverage was all about the personal remembrances of all the TV people that worked that day.
Right.
Nobody talks about the victims.
And I you know one thing I wanted to do, I wanted to get in Jim Moran's face and say, give me one name, besides Todd Beamer.
Give me one name who who of somebody who died on nine eleven.
And I just don't think he can do it.
I don't think he gets the fact that this is a you know, they were they were individuals, the the real people who died.
And I mean everybody was Todd Beamer, but not only not only that, they were the essence of innocence.
Those people died.
The people in the World Trade Center, uh and the two airplanes that hit the Trade Center and the Pentagon.
Those people died without the slightest idea of what had happened.
Can you imagine being in the Trade Center after the planes hit?
And you have no clue.
I mean, you might not even be no airplanes have hit.
I don't know if you've got power up there, but they but especially they didn't know why us.
Why us?
Why what they had they th they had literally no clue but the essence of innocence, like a like a newborn baby or baby in a womb.
The essence of innocence.
And they uh they they they went to their deaths dumbfounded.
Well, that's exactly true.
If you uh I don't know if you've listened to the um last phone call of Kevin Cosgrove, he was in uh the World Trade Center, and he's asking the dispatcher, what happened?
What where where did this fire start?
What happened?
And she doesn't tell him.
But he had no clue what had happened.
These people were completely innocent.
They were real victims.
I mean, and and that's another thing is uh terrorism did not end on nine eleven.
It it happens today.
I mean, I wake up with this this hole in my heart that just will not go away.
I mean, it's every day.
It didn't start on nine eleven.
That's the thing.
That's another the the the the the uh the the Democrats want you to believe that the war on terror started either when we went to Iraq or that terrorism started that day.
But of course during the nineties, that was a PC peachy keen decade, nothing really of any consequence happened there.
It Well, I'm glad you got this lesson.
I'm I'm I I was gonna ask you if it you didn't vote for Moran, though you obviously know who he is.
And you know what the Democrats have been saying for three years.
How could you not have known or been pretty pretty good guesser as to what was gonna come out of his mouth anyway?
Because I thought that he was had uh have a little bit of human decency and talk about the victims of nine eleven.
That's I mean uh yesterday was traumatic for me.
Uh sorry, nine eleven oh six was traumatic for me.
It was it was five years, and I I thought, okay, maybe even politicians have to have a heart.
They have to put this aside and say, yes, it was terrible.
It was a travesty, an atrocity.
What happened to those people?
And but he just didn't.
I mean, I was stunned.
It was like he was a robot.
He just he got up there within ten seconds, launched into his anti war tirade.
And I I was just stunned.
I will I I I try to give Democrats at least the benefit of the doubt.
I try to believe that they at least have a point of view that they're trying to express.
They're trying to live by, but I just think they're creepy now.
I mean, I know that's horrible.
No, no, no, no, no.
You were you're Katie, you're a good person.
You held out uh all kinds of hope and you had uh you had an unbridled optimism uh expecting certain things going into this.
Uh and I I think I know you're Republican, you voted Republican, uh, as you say, but uh for those of you who have listened to Katie in this phone call, I think this is just a microcosm of the things that are happening acr around and across the country.
Uh uh people are slow to assume that Americans, some Americans, but actually not be interested in victory in a war.
I don't want to believe that.
But the more the Democrats talk, and the more these things happen, more and more people who don't want to believe it are confronted with it and have no choice, as in uh Katie and Arlington.
Katie, it's a great call.
Thank you so much for trying to get through.
We'll take a brief break, be back right after this.
Stay with us.
Say, Katie, if you're still out there and all the rest of you, a couple of uh stories from our Jim Moran archive.
Jim Moran, Congressman Virginia, Representative Jim Moran, Virginia Democrat, April 12th, 2000 is the date of this story.
Now says he may press charges against the eight-year-old boy who allegedly tried to steal a Congressman's car outside an Alexandria recreation center.
According to Moran, the boy claimed to have a gun in his pocket and threatened to use it when he demanded Moran's car keys last Friday.
Uh on uh on Tuesday, Moran gave his side of the story on the Today Show, describing how shocked he was to be accosted by such a young chow.
Moran said he didn't blame the child, he blamed the parents for failing in their responsibility to teach their son right from wrong.
As it turns out, the boy's parents blame Moran for the incident.
They filed a formal complaint accusing Moran of attacking their son after the boy told the congressman he liked his car.
He grabbed my little boy, and that's not right, said Alonzo Griffin in an interview with the Washington Times.
Moran says he grabbed the boy after the child demanded his car keys and threatened to shoot him.
Moran says he carried the child into the rec center and called the cops.
The child did not have a gun.
The uh Washington Times reports that several witnesses saw a beat red Moran carrying the boy, yelling and cursing.
At first Moran didn't intend to press charges, but now he says he may change his mind.
I had hoped that this boy would learn that this is not acceptable behavior.
But if the parents are not going to teach him that this is not acceptable behavior, then maybe the courts will.
The boy told the Washington Times he didn't do anything wrong, says it's the Congressman who threatened him.
He choked me and then cussed me.
I thought he was going to kidnap me or kill me.
All I told him was that I liked his car.
Now there's something missing in this story, is there not?
Um, what is the race of the little boy, miss?
Is uh uh uh yeah, uh the little boy, eight-year-old black boy uh and uh admiring Moran's car, and Moran assumes he's gonna steal it, then tells this story about how the kid threatened him with a gun when he had no gun.
Second story, this is from June fourth of two thousand four, longtime advisor to Congressman Jim Moran has lodged about the most damaging allegation that could be made about the Congressman from Northern Virginia at this point in the re-election campaign that he heard him make an anti-Semitic remark.
Last night the seven-turn Congressman said he's stupefied at the allegation by his former strategist and pollster Alan Seacrest, and called it a flat-out lie.
The dispute marks another unpredictable turn in the career of the Washington region's most talked-about congressman.
On Tuesday, eighth district democratic primary, uh Moran faces a challenge from Andrew Rosenberg, an Alexandria lawyer and so forth, and apparently gone out and made uh uh anti-Semitic remarks from a former uh according to a former advisor.
Moran is uh not the epitome of um virtue and morality, regardless.
Uh and is uh the evidence I think is clear that when Moran says something, it makes more sense to doubt his version of it.
Uh, including when he says that uh more people hate this country than love life itself.
Uh there's c plenty of evidence out there to doubt the honesty of Moran when he uh Democrat uh Jim Moran, Congressman, uh Democrat, Congressman Virginia, Dim uh Jim, Dim, Dim Jim Moran.
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