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December 5, 2005, Monday, Hour #2

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	Supposed to snow big time in New York.
	Supposed to snow the Philadelphia tonight between three and seven inches, three and seven inches in the um Washington and Virginia areas.
	Yeah, you can see that stuff moving in there.
	And that the uh the Seattle Seahawks play the Eagles tonight on Monday Night Football, and they're gonna retire Reggie White's number uh in a uh I get probably a halftime uh ceremony.
	Uh nothing better than watching football in the snow, particularly when it's eighty-one degrees where we happen to be.
	Greetings, my friends, and welcome.
	Great to have you here.
	The EIB network and L. Rushball back at you.
	Two more hours of broadcast excellence, and we are uh ditto camming the whole program today.
	We're into our second hour.
	I'll tell you what, I feel like I've been away for a week.
	This was such a jam-packed weekend.
	I got back late last night.
	I was in New York Friday afternoon, Friday night went to dinner at uh at Patsy's with some friends.
	I got up Saturday, I flew into Kansas City because I went to Stroud's on Saturday night, since they're uh moving their current location, closing it down on December 31st.
	I hadn't been there in so many years.
	It was just it was fabulous.
	George Brett sitting on my left, my friend Mike Hartley from Hawaii sitting on my right, their wives are all there, and Brett, we're all just uh ordering obscene amounts of food except for me.
	You know, I'm eating responsibly.
	Like Brett and Hartley said, but I want my own bowl of green beans.
	Don't bring this giant platter out.
	I want my own bowl of green beans.
	The waitress said, What about you?
	I said, I want my own bowl of gravy.
	It's um uh food is just it's just delicious, and it it tasted exactly the same as the last time I'd had it.
	Well, we waited.
	We waited for about half hour, I think.
	Yeah.
	Uh no nobody hey, nobody.
	That's right.
	I'm a man of the people.
	I went in there and and uh we're standing, they brought us some fried shrimp.
	You ought to these gigantic fried shrimp about which we had the big economic lesson here long time ago.
	People wonder why the biggest shrimp in the world are in Kansas City when there's no shrimp there before they're shipped in.
	At any rate, um, yeah, there's one one guy uh uh tapped me on the shoulder and said, very young guy, he said, I just want to tell you my father, his mother, uh your biggest fan.
	And and I smiled back and said, Oh, so you don't listen and started laughing.
	He said, No, no, no, no, I do too.
	I said, I'm just it's everybody tells me their parents are big fans.
	And uh he it was uh he was a police officer in Kansas and they said, You want me to surrender here?
	You know, I I the way prosecutors are going, I felt like surrendering at Stroud's just for the hell of it.
	Uh but every and a we were sitting eating dinner, a woman came up and tapped me on the shoulder.
	Would you would you sign this?
	And I said, sure, and I signed it.
	She said you think your buddy George was signed?
	It's up to him.
	So she tapped him on the shoulder and he signed it.
	And uh she said, Thanks so much.
	Thanks so much.
	I I I I appreciate you doing this.
	I I just I didn't know if I should.
	I said, That's okay.
	Be be you were courageous.
	More than Democrats are.
	Way to go for it.
	I I don't blame you a bit.
	That was a fabulous time.
	Everybody in there was just this tremendous, and flew out of there late Saturday night.
	Uh, had uh had some golf yesterday and and puts it all over.
	And I really, it was short night last night, and I really it was so jam-packed that I uh it was cold in both places.
	Oh, the wind chill in Kansas City was 22 degrees when I went to the airport.
	Um getting back on the airplane.
	It was just I'd forgotten.
	It's it's it's it's it's it's bone-chilling cold.
	People live there year round are used to it, and I was at one time.
	Okay, Hillary Clinton, there were several loud calls to bring the troops home during a speech by Senator Clinton in Chicago on Saturday.
	She was in town to inspire young people to get involved in the political process, and they must have heard her.
	It was uh uh news report here by WLS TV Channel 7 in Chicago.
	She first had to speak over the shouts of some of those young adults.
	This audio soundbite number 13, Mike.
	We've got uh 13, 14 and 15 here.
	Let's start with 13.
	You know, I have to say that I appreciate the passion and the intensity that you feel about Iraq.
	I share it, and you're here expressing your opinion, but let's make sure that people have a chance to be part of a dialogue, and I do not believe that they want to hear from you at this moment.
	Whoa!
	In case you could you hear what the protesters were chanting in the background?
	The protesters were chanting or shouting troops out now, troops out now.
	She was only this is I don't know if it's a sister soldier moment or not.
	Because but because she sh well, people don't want to hear from you now.
	People here in this hall don't want to hear from you now.
	This is not gonna stand her in good stead.
	Uh uh obviously somebody in her camp still thinks triangulating this war is going to uh uh eventually stand her in good stead, and for that to work, for that to work, she's gonna have to she's gonna have to try to go get votes of people, uh, not in the Democrat base.
	Now we're talking about after the nomination, well, even during the nomination.
	She's gonna have some some uh pure anti-war candidates that oppose her in the nomination.
	But it's tough to find a center on the war to triangulate, which is what she's trying to do.
	They're they're protesting Hillary, they're protesting Hillary Rodham Clinton, they're protesting anybody.
	This is what the left doesn't understand these these so-called I don't know who these Democrats are that are in blind uh denial, utter denial of just what their base has become and just who their base is.
	But they're out there shouting troops out now, troops out now.
	Some of them tried to shout her down.
	Some and you heard her, she was in full screech there.
	And the last time we heard her sounding like that's when she's railing against Bush, talking about how she defines patriotism now.
	You know, she sounds like everybody's first and second wives in these sound bites here, just yelling and screeching and all this sort of going absolutely berserk, and it's not professional.
	It's not something that sounds like the uh the the confidence and the and the uh presence of the world's smartest woman.
	She was saying, G get give me a chance and I'll address that if you will be quiet.
	So listen to this again.
	Listen to Soundbite 13 again, then we'll play you a couple of uh sound bites for how the uh uh television and radio stations in Chicago reported this.
	Here is Mrs. Clinton, practically as soon as she hits the stage.
	You know, I have to say that I appreciate the passion and the intensity that you feel about Iraq.
	I share it, and you're here expressing your opinion, but let's make sure that people have a chance to be part of a dialogue, and I do not believe that they want to hear from you at this moment.
	Mm-hmm.
	I don't believe they want to hear what Hillary's saying is I don't want to hear from you at this moment.
	That's what she's saying.
	She's telling me, shut up.
	I don't care about you, I don't want to hear about you, I don't want to hear from you now.
	That's what she was saying to him.
	Now let's go listen to the coverage of this.
	She was heckled by protesters in Chicago.
	Now, when Bush or Cheney get heckled, it's national news.
	This was only reported locally on television in Chicago.
	This is how WBBM TV covered it.
	The protesters interrupted Senator Hillary Clinton during her keynote speech at Roosevelt University.
	"You count now!
	You count now!
	You count now!" The protesters shouted at Senator Clinton, demanding she joined a call for the immediate withdrawal of troops from Iraq.
	But she told them that while she has deep feelings about the war, the audience was not there to hear them.
	And last night, the senators stopped in at the crowbar for benefit for her uh 2006 reelection campaign in New York.
	Our country needs you, and we need you to be involved and caring about all kinds of issues that are going to make a difference to the world uh that we're gonna live in.
	Crowd of well wishers cheered on Senator Clinton.
	I don't know, I guess he did some dancing there and didn't let her presence get in the way of a good time.
	Yeah.
	So uh that's that's how TV covered it, not not nearly like it would have been covered uh uh if it were Bush uh or or Cheney.
	Our country needs you, we need you to be involved in caring about all kinds of issues that are going to be making a difference in the world that we are going to live in.
	So she's out there, she's fundraising for all this, make no question about it.
	She's fundraising for a New York re election bid, fundraising for her presidential bid uh at the same time.
	Quick timeout.
	Do you know that some oil executives are very, very worried that oil prices are gonna fall fast and maybe too far.
	Yeah, that's right.
	Right here.
	Some oil executives worry that prices may fall.
	Meanwhile, Helmut Head Dorgan's still out there talking about his windfall profits tax.
	We'll have a lot more on all this coming up after this.
	You heard Hillary Clinton shouting, We don't want to hear what you...
	You have to say now I understand why you I it sounds like this.
	I'm sorry to ruin this Christmas music, folks.
	It just struck me that.
	I'm really sorry about that, but that's what she sounded about.
	Here it is, uh, April 28th, 2003 in the Southington, Connecticut, speaking at the Democrats' annual Jefferson Jackson Bailey dinner.
	I am sick and tired of people who say that if you debate and you disagree with this administration, somehow you're not patriotic, and we should stand up and say we are America that we have a right to debate that disagree with that administration.
	Okay, okay.
	So you see, this is this is when she gets agitated, she gets heated up, and probably pretty frequently.
	This is what people can expect her to sound like.
	Well, you know, that's a good point.
	Mr. Sturdley says, what if people are not allowed to disagree with her?
	Who because whoever allowed these anti-war people into her Chicago appearance are probably already fired.
	It's not supposed to happen at a Clinton event.
	No dissent.
	Nobody opposing the Clintons ever gets into these things.
	Nothing like this is supposed to happen.
	This is a total breakdown in uh in operational planning.
	Total breakdown here in the setup.
	People in the advanced team totally screwed this up.
	Normally what happens like this, you get arrested.
	Remember this couple in Chicago when Bill Clinton went in there.
	I think their last name was Kelly, I'm not sure yet, but um woman shouted at Clinton as he walked by, you suck and Secret Service uh arrested her.
	I mean, you're not yeah, you can, as far as Hillary's concerned, you can disagree with the administration all way along, but you can't disagree with her.
	That's not permitted.
	Let's go to the phones.
	People have been waiting patiently to go to Los Angeles.
	Jim, you're first.
	Welcome to the program, sir.
	Thank you, Rush.
	I you know, I think you should have a new title.
	You're the the great mirror, because you reflect everything that these Democrats say and and point it right back at them, and then they have to deal with it, and that's a great public service.
	So thank you.
	Thank you, sir.
	You know, I disagree a little bit about Ramsey Clark being there because I really feel he's he legitimizes uh the rule of law above the Koran, and that's something that is very important in that area of the world.
	We need to show that the rule of law is more important than the Koran.
	And Ramsey Clark will help provide that type of uh image for this trial, and give credit to the prosecutors, because the first case that they're gonna try is a murder case where he slaughtered all those people and and the defense of it's an unjust war isn't gonna come into play in that case.
	Now, even if it does, well, America was right to go in there, and we have the ability to take that on and prove it.
	So give credit to those lawyers.
	You know, Teddy Roosevelt said, Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait.
	Wait, hold it, hold it, hold it just a second.
	I want to make sure I understand.
	By give credit, you th you are you are suggesting that Ramsay Clark's lunacy, that Lamb Ram Ramsey Clark's own dementia will give credit to the notion that Saddam got a fair trial when this is all over.
	Yeah.
	Okay, so your concern is that you're worried about what people think.
	No, I I think it's a good idea.
	You you if this is gonna become a circus, I just want to this is going to become a circus before it's all over with.
	Here we have Matt, would you have suggested Ramsey Clark defending somebody like him at the Nuremberg trials?
	Absolutely.
	Because the rule of law is the foundation of our country, and it is so important, and if it's the foundation of that country, then the Quran is secondary, and that way people can live and abide by laws.
	You keep mentioning the Quran.
	Well, you may be more informed than I on this trial, but what's the Quran got to do with this?
	Are they trying him according to the Quran?
	Well, the Quran is how they rule themselves and their government.
	It's not just a religion, it's really a form of government.
	So if we can take separate church from state in in that area of the world, then we can have a country we can deal with, and the rule of law and liberty will uh be far more important than here's the here's the here's the the problem I have with that.
	The Quran's the rule of law, Saddam should have been executed by now.
	If if a Quran's the rule of law, but the the the Quran, what they're operating on, Saddam already should have met the seventy-two virgins along with that guy in Pakistan that our CIA drone took out.
	In fact, those 72 virgins should have been used up by now.
	Uh if you ask I I think I understand your your point, but I I I pulled Ramsey Clark's lunatic.
	Ramsey Clark's not over there trying to defend Saddam.
	Ramsey Clark is trying to embarrass the United States.
	Ramsey Clark is seeing to it that Saddam's exonerated.
	Ramsey Clark's purpose over there is to embarrass the Bush administration.
	He's not doing what he's doing for the lofty goals of separation of church and state and the sense of justice in Iraq.
	He's got one purpose.
	And the fact that Democrats in this country are not denouncing him, that they're not distancing themselves from him is proof positive of what his mission is all about.
	Ramsey Clark is part of an anti-American organization.
	This uh Code Pink and these other groups, international answer.
	This is this is not about this is not about a fair trial.
	This is gumming up the works.
	This is about making sure there isn't a trial.
	This is about make sure intimidating everybody over there involved in the prosecution gets cold feet and lets this thing go.
	I I I disagree with you totally about this, but particularly on this idea that you know having some wacko lawyer pull out all the stops, and still Saddam being found guilty somehow gives credibility to the process.
	That that that I just uh this whole notion of of doing for you know courting world opinion on this stuff, screw that.
	You know, it's about time to start doing the right thing.
	The Republicans in Congress could take this advice too.
	You know, we asked this eternal question since when did they forget who elected them?
	Since when did they go to that town and forget what they were elected to do?
	Since they started being concerned what people in that town think of them.
	That's what happened to him.
	Dick Army has a great piece, the opinion journal.com yesterday about this.
	I'll get to it here in uh in just a moment.
	I'm just telling you, you you whether it's a nation, whether it's a neighborhood, whether it's an individual, you start doing everything you're doing because of what other people's opinion of you is.
	You can be dead certain you're not gonna end up doing the right thing over half or more of the time.
	Scott in uh Burleson, Texas, your next sir.
	I'm glad you waited.
	Welcome to the program.
	Uh thank you, sir.
	Long time listener.
	Uh the whole with the whole Kerry statement, uh it's that's just complete completely ridiculous, sir.
	Uh we there's a village um that we regularly put patrolled, and there's a small uh young child, young boy, stung by a uh scorpion a number of times, a deadly scorpion, sir, and uh we actually gave is the the village doctor didn't know what to do with it, and so we actually gave him aid and saved his life.
	And and I don't know if that's terrorism, but uh Scott, I want to s I want to stop you.
	I want to stop you right here.
	I don't want you to have to call this program humiliate yourself by having to defend yourself against charges by somebody that may have dementia.
	We all know that you are not a terrorist, Scott.
	We all know that you have not snuck into the homes of Iraqi citizens brutalizing women and children under the cover of darkness.
	In fact, we know that many of you have been gunned down, passing out children to candy.
	We know that many of you have been blown up, being faked out by kids, sent out by terrorists.
	You've been trying to do good things, and a lot of that has gotten some of you killed.
	You don't need to call here and defend yourself, and I'm not gonna let you do it.
	I'm not let I'm not gonna let you descend to that level having to defend some outrageous charge that you are nothing but a terrorist.
	We all know you're not.
	Well, I I never I I realize, and I I I realize I don't have to defend myself and I don't have to defend my brethren in arms.
	But it it's it boggles my mind that how a man uh scratch that a yellow bellied coward such as Terry uh is so predominant predominant in America, where in a country that prides itself on its courage and its heroism that a man who is repeatedly turned turned his back on his troops, on his men, on his country, okay held up on these high states.
	Okay, now that's great.
	You've just you've spelled it out real well.
	Do you know what you've just described?
	A modern day liberal democrat in the United States of America.
	That's who they are.
	That's exactly who and what they are.
	And there's nothing patriotic about it.
	And as you said, there's simp there's certainly nothing courageous about anything Senator Kerry happens to be saying no matter where he goes.
	Yes, sir.
	Yes, sir.
	Well, I I I just I just want to make sure the American public doesn't have any inkling, any shadow of a doubt what our troops are doing, and and there's no way that they don't.
	They don't.
	There may be a few crackpot dolts on the far left who think of you this way, but you can put the whole number of them in a thimble.
	And we are back, serving humanity, El Rushball with a half my brain tied behind my back just to make it fair.
	Uh which one of you guys was it that sent me the Lincoln Chafee story uh earlier today, Brett that was Brett.
	All right.
	There is because I I want uh uh what did you say?
	Yeah.
	Um it's just amazing, and I want to juxtapose it with the piece from Dick Army uh from uh yesterday on the Wall Street Journal's opinionjournal.com.
	Why are Republican leaders governing like Democrats?
	Is his uh question.
	And the Boston Globe piece on uh on Link Chafee is how the Republicans are embracing it.
	The Republicans are praising Link Chafee.
	We need Link Chafee to hold on to our majority.
	And so you read this, you read these two things, and you you just want to throw your hands up.
	You just want to throw your hands up.
	We'll get to all that in due course as well, as well as some oil executives worrying that prices may fall.
	I can't wait to hear what some people are gonna say is a reason for this.
	Here's Don in Dubuque, Iowa.
	You're next, sir, on the EIB network.
	Hello.
	Rush, hi.
	I can't tell you how much of an honor it is to talk to you.
	I don't care what else I get accomplished today.
	It won't make up for it won't come close to being able to talk to you.
	God bless you for what you do.
	Uh thank you very much, sir.
	I appreciate that.
	Uh I've been listening to you for fifteen, twenty years, however long you've been on.
	But uh the reason I call this, you know, it would be nice if uh the uh senators, the congressmen we send to Washington would step back and take a look at what Candy Rice said to the Europeans uh just the other day.
	Uh she said, hey, our purpose is good, our our cause is great.
	Uh we're going to going to interrogate these terrorists.
	Uh and we're they're so afraid in Washington to just say this stuff is necessary, what we're doing there instead of cowering and saying, oh we got to we gotta be kind to these terrorists.
	We cannot interrogate them.
	I know, and it's not just it's not just Democrats.
	We we've got McCain out there trying to come up with this there's no torture bill claiming there won't be any compromise on it, yet he's talking to the White House about it.
	Uh it it the whole the whole uh template is wrong.
	I I agree.
	It seems the Republicans are not they're listening to the people who have never voted for them anyway.
	You know, why don't they listen to the people who put them there?
	Because they think the mainstream press is more powerful.
	And they're responding to the mainstream press.
	I hate to I hate to say it again, Don, but that's who they're responding to.
	They're responding to the press.
	And right now the template is we're evil, we're barbarians, we're running secret prisons, we're torturing people, uh, and we're losing the war anyway, and we don't deserve to win it if we're gonna be torturing people.
	You have to understand journalists are not Americans anymore.
	Journalists are citizens of the world.
	Journalists do not choose sides.
	Well, they do.
	Often enough, it's not us.
	It's not their own country.
	That's how you get to be an elite journalist and have the the objectivity to understand your country can sometimes be wrong, and particularly when a Republican runs it.
	And so that's that's the big test.
	And so the Republicans, that's where they live.
	They see all this, they think it's important what the Washington Post, New York Times, all the three networks say, and that's why they respond this way.
	And of course, McCain, McCain's just his own his own explanation.
	Uh McCain's, you know, McCain's building up an interesting agenda on which to run for president.
	I have that here.
	I'll got a lot of stuff in store here as the program unfolds today.
	You make an excellent point.
	Condi went all over the world to the Europeans, and we're not backing down.
	We're fighting a serious war on terror, and we're going to continue to do as long as we're uh leading the United States, this is the way we're going to deal with it.
	Rush.
	Yeah.
	Yes, sir.
	God bless you.
	Oh, thank you, sir.
	I'll do my best.
	Some say it just comes naturally.
	I say it's hard work.
	In fact, she did.
	She told she told some of these Europeans today, say stodgy elitist pointy headed uh academics.
	She said that some of the intel that we have uh cr uh uh uh generated, learned from interrogating these people have saved their lives, so quit complaining.
	That's what she told a Europeans today.
	What we've doing is saving your lives.
	So stop complaining about it.
	We're gonna continue to try to save your lives and the lives of as many free people in the world as possible.
	Here's Chris at Olympia Washington, you're next on the EIB network.
	Hello, sir.
	Dido's rush.
	You know, this isn't a profound thought, but um I'll leave those to you.
	But what I'd like to say is um I hope you remember the last time Americans stormed into a peaceful house, you know, in the pre-dawn dark hours to terrorize a women and children.
	Let's see.
	Hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on.
	I'm gonna talk about this.
	I want to think about this.
	I love these kinds of challenges.
	When was the last time?
	What was the question?
	Last time Americans stormed into a peaceful house.
	A family's home, a peaceful home in the dark hours of the night to terrorize women and children the way the left claim that we do.
	Well, Uh well, let's see, the Waco invasion was in daylight.
	That's close.
	Uh so we're not counting that just because it happened in the daytime.
	We have to do it.
	Janet Reno said Janet Reno and Bill Clinton did the same thing in uh uh in Florida, right n right near there.
	Um so yes, it's a Democrats who terrorize and brutalize women and children under cover of darkness.
	Excellent point, Chris.
	And they and they ripped that that innocent boy from from that home, that family, and and took him back and delivered him into the hands of a tyrant, a leftist tyrant, a communist.
	And I think the reason why they um they defend tyrants so much is because they have so much in common.
	The left has so much in common with the tyrants and the dictators and the thugs that I think that's why they they secretly defend them, and that's why Ramsey Clark what would JFK or Bobby Kennedy do in that same situation in nineteen sixty?
	What would Ramsey Clark?
	Wait, wait, wait, wait, well, hold it.
	Hold it a second.
	Okay, I'm mad.
	Well, no, wait a minute now.
	That's actually a great question because in the New York Times over the weekend, uh Theodore Sorensen and Arthur Schlesinger Jr.
	Yeah actually wrote a piece about what would JFK do I think Iraq.
	If it JFK were never not and Ramesh Ponuru at National Review Online had a pretty good answer.
	Well, if JFK were president during this period of time, the first thing I I gotta find it because I have to paraphrase it, but the first thing he would have done would be go hire the mob to try to take out Saddam.
	Uh then he would have tried to see our CIA to send a fake cigar that would explode in uh in uh what's his name, uh Hussein's face.
	Uh and then he would have betted one of the one of the mafia's uh uh mistresses, uh Judith Exner, or a whole bunch of them, uh and and we know what JFK would have done.
	You know, if these guys are writing this story, what would JFK have done trying to recreate Campbell out here?
	If we can't because there's no current Democrat.
	What would John Kerry do?
	Cut and run.
	What would John Mertha do, cut and run?
	What would Ted Kennedy do, cut and run?
	So they can't write that piece.
	So they had to go back to JFK.
	Now, I'm not trying to put JFK down, please, because I love JFK and his tax cuts, ask not for your country, what uh that's not what your country can do for you and all that.
	But um, if you look at what he tried to do with Castro, let's face it, we had the Bay of Pigs, and then we had the exploding cigar, then we had a mob hired to take him out, or so such was the story.
	Uh and and and then uh a number of other things.
	Then Judith Exner, we know what what JFK would have done.
	What were you gonna say JFK would have done?
	Well, that's just it.
	He he defended freedom where where he could find freedom to defend.
	And you know, I think the the remnants of that are Lieberman and Zell Miller, and I think that they don't have a national party anymore.
	And I think that uh you know, I think that that's why the Republicans have maintained this power for ten years, and hopefully we won't falter at this point.
	Let me tell you something.
	As I said last week, the Democrats haven't won over fifty percent of the popular vote in a presidential race since uh 1980.
	And uh and and they're they're not on track to do so anytime soon.
	But one other correction, this is a national party.
	It may not very big, very big at the moment.
	Bigger than you think.
	This is the Democratic Party, the American left, and there are a lot of people.
	Thank you in this in this party, you bet, who s who who who disagree totally with the notion Saddam is worthless.
	They think Bush is the bad guy.
	But I love these two examples.
	Here's Kerry talking about American troops terrorizing X, Y, and Z, and yet, on American soil, Janet Reno twice terrorized American children and a little boy, once in a daytime with a branch Davidian invasion, the Waco invasion, and then the Alien Gonzalez.
	And that related stormtrooper dead house one night went in there with armed weapons and so forth and stole that little boy out of the little house and sent him back down to the Cuban dictator, Fidel Castro.
	Yeah.
	Interesting.
	Okay.
	Great, great illustration.
	Keep coming up with these things.
	What do you mean I'm in for it now?
	I attacked that idiot Kerry.
	But I didn't attack JFK.
	I love JFK on a couple things.
	But if you're gonna go back, all I'm saying is if if Sorensen and Schlesinger have to write a piece New York Times, what would a Democrat do?
	They have to go back almost 45 years to find one that might give us a chance.
	They can't go back to Jimmy Carter.
	They can't go back to McGovern.
	They can't go back to Clinton.
	What would Bill Clinton do?
	Because we know that Clinton led to all of this by not doing enough about it.
	They can't go to Kennedy.
	What would uh what would John Kerry do if he were they can't use a modern Democrat?
	That's the whole point of the piece.
	That's the that's the real upshot of the piece.
	What would JFK do?
	Okay, fine.
	If you say that there's only one Democrat in the last 50 years that we can look to for real leadership on this, say JFK, fine with me.
	It wasn't me that attacked JFK.
	I'm just quoting Romesh Penuru, but I happen to agree with him.
	It's a great piece.
	It's two or three little lines.
	I'll see if I can take it up.
	Back after this.
	Stay with us.
	Here's what Ramesh Ponuru said.
	National Review Online in response to Sorensen and Schlesinger Jr. in their New York Times piece Sunday, what would JFK do?
	Rabesh says the answer's obvious, isn't it?
	He would have tried to make Saddam's beard fall out, and if that didn't work, he would have hired Sam Giancana to put a poison pill into his Chevis Regal and Soda.
	And while Sam was away, he and Judith could get on with things.
	Well, this whole piece that these guys wrote is an attempt to equate Vietnam and Iraq and then also build up their great hero, JFK.
	Both of them worked for him.
	But it's it's just it's the funniest thing about it to me is that you still have these two guys that got to go back 45 years to even get close to a Democrat who might have had a pro-American view on this, who said what did to get rid of Saddam Hussein.
	But they don't even take it that far.
	You know, the Vietnamese were not trying to kill all non-Muslims the world over.
	The Vietnamese just running their own country and so forth.
	This the idea that there's any sort of similarity or comparison between uh the war on terror or Iraq and and uh in Vietnam is uh is just it's plain silly.
	But by the way, Chuck Schumer, according to Newsmax.com, this is uh sure to Schumer say this.
	Yesterday on WABC TV is behind the news, a local Sunday show in New York, is predicting failure.
	Chuck Schumer predicting failure.
	Don't you just love these guys?
	Aren't they inspiring?
	Senator Schumer predicting failure.
	He's just trying to distance himself between uh himself and Hillary, because he is the senior senator there, but nobody knows it.
	So Schumer predicting failure for Iraq's democratically elected government complaining the vote next week to determine the new parliament is being imposed on the Iraqi people by the United States.
	There'll be no government in Iraq the way we're trying to structure it now, he said.
	They're gonna have these elections, but that's sort of being imposed on them.
	Let's face the music.
	There's three groups in Iraq, and they all hate one another, the Kurds, the Shiites, and the Sunnis.
	As long as these groups are asked to come together in any army, an army, they're not gonna fight as a cohesive force, and it won't be a cohesive government.
	So we're imposing freedom.
	We're imposing democracy, and now we're imposing elections.
	Way to go, Senator.
	You just these people just keep outdoing themselves.
	They think they're really on a roll with this.
	And they think they got there.
	This is already a winner for them.
	I just I continue to maintain that they're simply redoing the McGovern strategy of 1972, which led to their giant loss in a landslide.
	What really got them to power was Watergate after that.
	I'm sure they're going to try to make a water gate out of something and impeach Bush if they can get us out of Iraq like they did in Vietnam.
	They're just revisiting their glory years in the past because they've got nothing to offer for the future.
	From the International Herald Tribune yesterday.
	Hold on to your gas guzzlers, folks.
	Cheap oil may once again be just around the corner, even as consumers worry about high gas prices and rising heating bills.
	Oil executives in London, Texas, and Saudi Arabia seemed to be concerned about a prospect of falling oil prices.
	In a recent speech in Singapore, John Brown, the chief executive of BP, spoke of a possible sharp drop in prices and called current levels unsustainably high.
	John Hoyma uh Hoffmeister, the head of Shell Oil in the U.S. said during an interview, this high price cycle is artificially inflated, and it can't be sustained.
	Now that quote's gonna oh, that's gonna titillate some people.
	Artificially inflated.
	I think most of that due to the futures market, but it's really the law of supply and demand here at work.
	The notion of a steep fall off in energy prices may seem far-fetched.
	Then they go in to give all the reasons why it may seem far fetched, and then the rest of the story talks about uh the predicting the future in oil is more art than science, but they're convinced these oil companies are.
	And the prices have been coming down, and they're coming down pretty fast.
	They're all they're under two bucks a gallon.
	Buck eighty-eight last I heard, uh, in uh Atlantic City.
	Uh, and and parts of parts of New Jersey.
	Uh, so and George Will had a piece yesterday, wind bag windfall.
	If Congress he starts off with a a a quote from Edward Gibbon in the History of the Decline and Fall of the Roman Empire.
	A locrian who proposed any new law stood forth in the assembly of the people with a cord round his neck, and if the law was rejected, the innovator was instantly strangled.
	If Congress had this rule, it's a people from ancient Greece.
	It would have been fatal to Senator Byron Dorgan, the North Dakota Democrat.
	He recently got thirty-four colleagues, none of them Republicans, to vote for his measure to punish oil companies for earning profits, which relative to revenues were unimpressive.
	Dorgan's measure also would have inflicted collateral damage on everybody who buys petroleum products and would have injured millions of Americans, many of them currently inciting Congress to smite the oil companies who don't know that they own oil stocks, here with an after-action analysis of a battle that has been fought before and will be again.
	None of us know much about what's happening with respect to pricing, said Dorgan, but quickly recovering from uncharacteristic humility.
	Dorgan joined Senate colleagues in exhibitionistic indignation about the fact that the five largest oil companies led by ExxonMobil's 9.9 billion had combined third-quarter profits of 32.8 billion.
	ExxonMobil, which has more than 50 billion of uh past profits invested in energy development projects, made 9.8 cents per dollar of sales, much less than the 21.2 cents made by a company selling another fluid that lubricates American life, Coca-Cola.
	Nevertheless, Charles Grassley, the increasingly eccentric Iowa Republican who chairs the finance committee admonished the oil companies to contribute 10% of their third quarter profits to augment existing federal subsidies that help some Americans pay their heating bills.
	Many of those Americans live in the Northeast and vote for liberals who in Congress write this narrative.
	By blocking much drilling in Alaska and offshore, Congress does nothing to improve the price of oil.
	Then Congress spends taxpayer dollars to soften the impact of the price, thereby encouraging consumption that raises the price.
	Then Grassley asks oil executives to join the moral grandstanding by squandering their shareholders' wealth, diverting it to protect oil customers from consequences of their representatives' irrationality.
	That's a long way of saying that these people are a bunch of hypocrites.
	They're the reason energy prices in this country are so high.
	They stand against drilling for our own independent supplies of oil.
	Then they demand the oil companies get rid of ten percent of their profits, many of which uh help average investors in America.
	It's just silly.
	And now with the price going down, the windfall profits tax failure was a good thing.
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