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June 30, 2005 - Rush Limbaugh Program
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June 30, 2005, Thursday, Hour #3
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Having more fun than a human being should be allowed to have.
Every day here on the EIB network and the Limbaugh Institute for Advanced Conservative Studies.
Great to be with you, ladies and gentlemen.
An hour to go here we oh no, don't sneeze, don't do it.
Uh I take one of those Claritin D things every day.
Used to be prescription, other over the counter, and they normally work, but sometimes I think I've weathered this one.
I was on the verge of sneezing, and that's just not polite.
Anyway, as I was saying, the telephone number, if you want to be on the program today is 800-282-2882, the email address rush at EIBNet.com.
How long ago was it, uh, ladies and gentlemen that the Democrats decided that they needed some help communicating.
So they went out and got this George Lackoff guy from Berkeley.
Lackoff rhymes with uh I mean it's been months, has it not?
And can we safely say that they haven't learned anything yet?
This is assuming Lackoff has something to teach them, but they think he does.
He's been showing up all over the place for I don't know how long now.
Lackoff has a post or an article, whatever you would call it, at the uh the fledgling and little uh read.
Uh actually, this is one of the best kept secret websites out there, the Huffington Post.
Uh and in it, he talks about Rove.
And he says, Rove rides again with the help of the Democrats.
Lackoff says for a while last week the Democrats were doing better at framing the issues.
The poll numbers showed that Bush's approval number was down, that around 60% of the voters had turned against the Iraq war, that support for Bush was lower but still pretty high on the war on terror.
They correctly recognize in the numbers that the public had begun to separate Iraq from 9-11, and they recognize the relevance of the Downing Street memo in showing that it's a it's don't George, did you not hear what Tony Blair said yesterday?
Oh, the Downing Street number.
At any rate, in short, the Democrats had begun to use the basics of framing issues in terms of their own values and principles, the lessons arising from research at the Rock Ridge Institute, whatever the hell that is.
But then sadly, writes Lackoff, they lost it.
Carl Rove outsmarted a Democrats again, and he used the most basic trick in the book to do it.
The first lesson of framing is not to activate the other guy's frame.
You imagine a Democrats, you imagine John Kerry sitting in a class with this guy as the professor.
So Lakkoff says to the Democrats in the class, well, the first the first lesson here, class, is a first lesson of framing, not to activate the other guy's frame.
Oh, wait a uh question about what does that mean?
What does it mean?
Well, here's what Lakhoff says.
It means negating a frame activates it in the minds of hearers.
As Richard Nixon found out when he said I'm not a crook, and everybody thought of him as a crook.
The very title of my book, Don't Think of an Elephant makes the point.
If you negate a frame, it reinforces the frame.
Oh, I see, so it's like saying don't think pink.
Rove managed to link Iraq with 9-11 again and to delegitimate the Democrats in the process, and he did it with a Democrats' help.
Rove achieved this brilliantly in one sentence.
Conservatives saw the savagery of 9-11 and the attacks and prepared for war.
Liberals saw the savagery of the 9-11 attacks and wanted to prepare indictments and offer therapy and understanding for our attackers.
When the Democrats took debate, Rove reeled them in.
Here's what he achieved.
He changed the context of discourse from Bush's disaster in Iraq to support for Bush in the wake of 9-11.
Wait, he lists 10 points.
I'm not going to read all tens, but here's number seven.
Moreover, using the word liberal and not Democrat, Rove made it look like any Democrat attacking his remarks was a lily-livered liberal.
And that the party had been taken over by weak needed chickens.
Anybody against Bush's use of the military.
Now, I'm gonna I'm gonna make a point here.
For you Democrats listening in.
I don't know how much you're paying Lackoff to uh guide you through the linguistics of politics, but you may as well hire the first person you see on Seventh Avenue in Manhattan because that's what everybody thought.
Everybody figured this out.
Rove uses the word liberals, and the first thing that happens, every Democrat in the world stands up and starts protesting.
They have spent their whole last ten years trying to come up with a new term for liberal.
No, we're progressive.
No, we're moderates, no, we're forward thinkers.
They just you you call them liberals, and they say you're engaging in a personal attack.
Their proper response would have been, who you talking about, Mr. Rove.
But no, they all stood up and they said, I resent that.
He has to apologize.
He better resign.
Bush better get rid of him.
And now they want Rumsfeld.
Now they want Rumsfeld to chide Rove.
Some Democrats in the House want Rumsfeld to say that Rove was wrong.
What should liberals have learned from reading the Rock Ridge Institute website and don't think of an elephant?
Uh uh Anyway.
The point is that that it it Lakov here has been trying to teach these guys, and they are not learning.
Folks.
And here's more evidence.
This is a story.
I've got two of them here.
From the uh from the Boston Globe today.
Democrats struggle to find one voice on a rock.
Is that not perfect coming after this lackoff piece at the Huffington Post?
House and Senate Democrats, sensing an opportunity in President Bush's sagging poll numbers and an increasingly unpopular war, have held a series of it's not uh.
Stay the course, here Rush.
Uh uh have held a series of long closed-door meetings over the past several weeks to find a common position and a sharpened political message on the Iraq war.
This is unbelievable.
They're still having meetings now behind closed doors to come up with a consensus about what they all think.
Can I offer some help here?
You know, you Democrats, you liberals, what just listen to me.
I will tell you who you are, and I can do it inside of 10 minutes, and I do every day.
I perfectly identify you.
I know you better than I know the back of my hand.
I know all I know what you're gonna do before you do it.
I know what your policy positions are.
I know what your position on any issue is going to be.
I know who you are.
The fact that you won't admit it is a problem you've got, but this idea that they got to sit around behind closed doors and come up with a consensus and stay on the same page.
What is a Democrat ever off their reservation?
Tell me, who are the Democrat Chuck Hagels and John McCain's and Lindsay Graham's?
Can somebody give me a name?
Who are they?
No, Lieberman's not off the reservation on this stuff.
Occasionally he goes off the resident, but no, no, you can't predict it.
You can't bank on it.
But who are they?
What is this?
It's a joke.
Sitting behind closed doors to come up with what they believe.
They they are the most this all this whole thing is a sham.
From the I don't care if it's ABC, CBS, CNN, ABC, B, whoever, New York Times, Washington Post, John Kerry, they all say the same thing.
We do it every day here.
We put montages together.
Here's a Democrat saying something, here's a press member saying something, followed by another Democrat, followed by another reporter, followed by another Democrat.
They say the same thing.
Somebody's churning out the talking points.
And they're all following them.
It doesn't matter who says it.
Teddy Kennedy says nothing different than Robert Byrd, who says nothing different than Chuck Schumer, who says nothing different than Nancy Pelosi, who says nothing different than Harry Reed, who says nothing different than Howard Dean.
That's just my reaction to the first paragraph of this story.
Here's the next paragraph.
Some participants in the meeting said that Bush's failure to articulate an exit strateger in his speech on Tuesday might only uh not only underscored the need for Democrats to devise their position, but they acknowledged that within the party there are fundamentally different views on the war.
The case for an exit strategy is only growing stronger every day, said Representative Matty Meehan of Massachusetts.
The lack of consensus was evident at two and a half hour lunch meeting with House Democrats earlier this month.
Some argued for immediate and full withdrawal, while others countered that troops should be withdrawn more gradually, and some said there should be no timetable according to House members who attended the meeting.
Doesn't matter.
It's all about various forms of retreat.
Don't you people understand what you sound like?
We need to get out now.
No, we need to get out soon.
No, we need to get out later than soon.
No, we don't need a timetable.
I don't know what we You all sound like you want to give up.
You all sound like the French.
You all sound like you want to surrender.
It's just the differing degrees that we hear you say it.
Do they not get this, folks?
They must not.
What's the next paragraph?
We have people who are coming at this from a lot of different places, said Maxine Waters.
It's getting better because members are responding to the polls and asking the right questions now, but we have to bring more attention to this.
We cannot be silent.
Oh, you're responding to the polls.
Another thing I could tell you that you do all the time.
You you you Okay, so they're responding to the polls.
What do we have here so far?
They're still holding meetings to find a position.
Their position, no matter how they slice it, equals some degree of retreat or defeat or surrender.
We gotta keep listening to the polls out there.
And then there's this.
Senate Democrats had a similar meeting last week, which ended with senators agreeing to demand clearer goals from the Bush administration, but disagreeing on what the goal should be.
So the Democrats met behind closed doors also to try to figure out what to do, and they were all in unity when they said the Bush needs firm goals.
Somebody said, Well, what are ours?
Well, they don't have any goals other than retreat.
Various forms of retreat, defeat, and surrender.
Liberals such as this is not liberals such as Dennis Kucinich.
Uh, who wrote this?
Rick Klein, note to Rick Klein, Boston Globe.
They're all liberals.
Did you see them all react to Carl Rove?
Gosh, this is unbelievable.
I can't believe these people that write this stuff graduated from a journalism school.
Liberals, such as Dennis Gusinich have demanded an immediate withdrawal of troops.
New York Senator Hillary Rodham, who is eyeing a run for president, warned that an intense public debate over Iraq could bitterly divide the nation, as happened during the Vietnam War when there was conflict in the streets.
And she knows what our previous caller knows that no Democrats win on an anti-war agenda.
Is there any more of this I wish to explore?
Um Democrats see discontent with Bush as a powerful tool to use against implicant Republicans in next year's midterm and congressional elections.
Okay, so how do we hear this?
Well, can we just review this piece?
Democrats in the House, Democrats in the Senate met behind closed doors, holding meetings to find out their position.
When you listen to them discuss the contents of their meetings, what you learn is that their position is one form or another of retreat.
Then you learn that Maxine Waters is urging and praising members for responding to polls.
Then you learn that the real purpose of the meeting is to sit there and calculate how can we use the war to win the election in 2000 six.
Now, you guys can go to Lakov's class all day.
I'm gonna give you one bit of advice.
I'm gonna I'm just gonna give you some learning here.
If you want to use the war, which it's just another issue, it's no different than social security to them.
It's no different than tax cuts or tax increases.
It's just gosh, how can we use this?
How can we use this?
Let me tell you.
Act even if you have to act.
Just act.
I don't know it's gonna be hard.
Because what is this?
This is 2005, and those elections are basically 14 or 15 months away.
If you can do it for 15 months, Democrats.
I personally have my doubts, but if you can do it.
Act.
Because I know it'll be an act.
Act like you want to win it.
Now I know this is controversial within the uh liberal and Democrat Party circles, winning the war, because many of you think that's unfair.
It's an ignoble, unjust war, and we have no right to even be there.
So you have to act.
But just, you know, and I'm I'm not charging you anything here.
And I'm I'm enraging my audience by giving you this advice.
But I'm confident you will not listen to it.
You'll not take it.
I'm also confident you can't pull off this act for longer than maybe a day, much less 15 months.
But you might look at the war out there, and you might realize who's fighting it, and you might actually try to convince uh the American people that you too want to win it.
Think of the possibilities.
Yeah, about to have a seizure here, folks, over the absolute idiocy I am reading.
And Democrats keep talking to us about their principles, yet they have to go behind closed doors to come up with some, and then they can't when it's all over, except various forms of retreat.
On the second page of this story by Rick Klein in the Boston Globe, and I, you know, they you you have to know that the Globe publishes this and it dead serious.
This is a great piece of journalism, I'm sure they think it's serious reporting.
Well, Democrat polity uh party and its policies.
They don't realize Saturday Night Live could not write this story.
The greatest comedy writer alive could not write this story because the key to the humor in this is trying to pass this off as somehow substantive.
Because later on in the story, on page two, which I'm holding here in my formerly nicotine stained finger.
You you will not believe this.
They quote Ashley Wilkes, Wesley Clark, who said, Now remember what the point of the story is.
Democrats struggle to find one voice on a rock.
Here's what Wesley Clark said.
It's not realistic for Democrats to have a coherent voice.
Well, there is some truth.
Let me give you the rest of the quote.
It's not realistic for Democrats to have a coherent voice, Clark said.
The president's a commander-in-chief.
It's his job to create the strategy for success.
It's the Democrats' responsibility to surface the issues and to hold them accountable.
Uh this may be the first half of this quote, may be the first intelligent, realistic thing that Ashley Wilkes has said since he decided to run for president, when he said it's not realistic for Democrats to have a coherent voice.
Now the Democrats are trying to find a coherent voice.
They're coherent.
We're trying to find a single voice, one policy or whatever.
And Clark says, no, that's not up to them to have war.
If you don't have an opposition, if you don't, if you don't disagree, you can't.
Well, I don't even need to finish the blanks for you there.
That's just this is who they are.
Now we stay with the Boston Globe.
It is a gold mine today.
The uh next piece is a column by Joan Venaki.
And whereas the first piece was all about how the Democrats can't figure out what to say and all that.
Joan Venaki thinks no, they've already figured it out because their headline, Democrats buy into Bush's war.
And here is just an excerpt.
Here was a rare expression of candor concerning the Iraq War, or there was on Tuesday night, and it didn't come from President Bush, it came from Senator Kerry.
Kerry, who served in Vietnam and who was interviewed on Larry King Alive after the president's speech, was asked by the substitute host Bob Costus if he and other Democrats were too docile and too compliant in the weeks leading up to the invasion of Iraq.
Kerry replied, Well, many of those questions were raised, but not enough, and I plead guilty.
I've said this in public too.
See if you notice he always says this.
I have said this publicly, too.
It's uh it's a defensive mechanism.
It's it probably never has said it, but he thinks nobody can prove it, so he's gonna claim he said it.
Many of the questions were raised, but not enough, and I plead guilty, and I think a lot of people in the party would.
But when Kerry was asked by Costus, is Bush getting an unfair shake?
Kerry said, To some degree, I think that's true, and I've said that publicly.
When did he say that in public?
When has he ever said in public that Bush to some degree is getting an unfair shake?
Kerry said, We've made progress.
No, I don't believe it is the test today, but it could become a quagmire if we don't make the right choices soon.
So here's a guy that was going to call for impeachment hearings before the uh Downing Street memo, backed off of that, wrote an op-ed in the New York Times on Tuesday saying this what Bush better stay tonight.
And he better come clean, he better tell the truth.
And then he says, Well, I think he is getting an unfair shake, and I've said that publicly.
We're making progress in Iraq.
Carry flip-flopping again.
So folks, I mean you Democrats, move on.
527P.
You can have them.
I just got something very puzzling in the email.
It says application approval number 8917.
So if you get something in the email says you application approval, must mean you have applied for something, right?
Only I didn't apply for anything.
Says, hello.
We sent you an email a while ago because you now qualify for a much lower rate based on the biggest rate drop in years.
You can now get $325,000 for as little as $615 a month.
Bad credit?
Doesn't matter.
Low rates are fixed no matter what.
What I What I don't understand about if if I if I needed $325,000, I'd I'd cash a check and go to the bank.
What are these people sending me these notes for that I can buy it for $600?
Why would I want to buy $325,000 for $615 a month?
You know, I gotta wonder about some of these marketers out there.
I just happened to see that.
When I saw approval, I said, What did I apply for?
I don't remember.
Uh get this from the Washington Post.
This is Sturdley's in there with his hand this hand.
Here's the headline of the story.
Mexican stamps racist, civil rights leaders say.
The man what a day this is.
The Mexican government issued a series of stamps yesterday depicting a dark-skinned Jim Crow era cartoon character with greatly exaggerated eyes and lips, which infuriates black and Hispanic civil rights leaders for the second time in weeks.
Mexican uh postal officials said the five-stamp series features Mamin Penguin, a character from a comic book created in the 40s because he's beloved in Mexico.
Spokesman for the Mexican embassy described the depiction as a cultural image that has no meaning and it's not intended to offend.
You know, the Mexicans are saying, the Mexicans say, hey, look, we never got upset when you created Speedy Gonzalez.
You know, Speedy Gonzalez always was the good guy.
Speedy Gonzalez always won at the end of the episode.
Um let's go on to global warming stuff.
I mentioned this to you earlier, because this is just this is this is a riot.
This is uh what one of this is from uh it's I think it's live science, and this is from live science, and the third one is new scientists okay, two of these from Livescience.com.
Global warming makes sea less salty.
You uh you won't want to drink water straight from the ocean any time soon, but the salt content is on the decline, a sign of potentially worrisome consequences that scientists can't accurately predict, and they can't explain either.
Since the late 60s, much of the North Atlantic Ocean's become less salty in part due to increases in freshwater runoff induced by global warming.
Fresh water runoff is now because of global.
I thought the sea level was gonna rise because icebergs were gonna melt.
Anyway, now for the first time, researchers have quantified this freshwater influx, allowing them to predict the long-term effects of a conveyor belt of ocean currents.
Climate changes in northern hemisphere have melted glaciers and brought more rain, dumping more fresh water into the oceans.
One of the expected high profile consequences is a rising sea that will swamp coastal communities, but there are other possible effects.
It goes on and on and on and on and on.
And then you get to the end of the story.
A study last year concluded that an altered conveyor belt could actually plunge the planet into global cooling.
So the whole story is based on this conveyor belt that's causing the seawater to get less salty, and it's global warming that's causing it.
But now this same conveyor effect is going to lead to plunge the planet into global cooling.
All right.
That yeah, well, what do you mean we can fix this one?
How are we going to fix this one?
Mm-hmm.
Snerdly says to fix this one, just take our salt and dump it in the ocean.
Oh, yeah.
Next time you take cruise ship down to Aruba, just take a whole bunch of box of mortal salt and pour it in.
Well, that's not exactly what it is, Mr. Snerdley.
It's Brian, but it's not.
But we don't want to solve the problem.
The point the point is that the conveyor belt is gonna is gonna cure global warming.
This is the Earth fixing itself.
We don't have to do anything, is the point.
That story doesn't make it.
That's just my intelligent conclusion.
Global warming story number two.
From from live science senior writer Roy Britt, global warming.
Just keep churning this crap out, folks.
I mean, global warming might create lopsided planet.
What is this say?
Uh extra precipitation.
Expected as a result of global warming.
Really, no.
If it rains more, it's not global warming.
Extra precipitation expected as a result of global warming could create a lopsided world in which sea ice increases around the South Pole while the far north melts away.
A new study illustrates the difficulty in predicting.
Why write the story?
I'm supposed to go play golf this afternoon.
They can't tell me if it's going to rain today or not.
Well, Rush, there's a 60% chance sometime after 3 o'clock, that's the best we can do.
Well, here we are predicting salt levels, conveyor belts, global warming, plunging temperatures.
For Antarctica, the new study concludes, the extra precipitation will mean deeper snow, which will suppress sea ice below it, making it thicker over time.
The idea runs counter to a study earlier this year that found glaciers in part of Antarctica are melting rapidly.
So uh the the well, they contradict themselves in this, because all the rain caused by global warming is gonna increase ice around the South Pole, and yet ice at the South Pole is melting.
And huh?
No, no, no.
Don't the the South Pole, they say is melting now.
It may be.
I mean, these things, you know, you can't judge this in the in the course of a two or three human generations.
You've got to judge this in terms of thousands of years.
But since we're alive now and we all might die, we have to get a handle on this.
No, the the prevailing global warming theory is that the the uh the uh Antarctic ice sheet is thinning and breaking off, and glaciers are roaming around out there, and we may have to go rope them in and bring them back and you know, nail them back together to down there to save the planet.
This doesn't even account for the story I had earlier in the week.
They're gonna put this giant ring around the equator of uh space dust or spacecraft to reflect the sunlight back out to the uh out into space.
Do you remember that one?
This is four wacko stories in one week.
A giant space ring.
They want this planet to look like Saturn.
They want to create a giant ring at the around the equator to uh to uh shield or shade the equatorial and and uh and tropical areas of the planet uh and thereby cool them off uh and to stave off global warming.
The downside they said to this is that these particles that we launch into space that make up the ring, and it would cost over a trillion dollars to launch all this stuff up there.
Basically put stage space junk up there.
But maybe even 13 trillion.
I forget it it the price tag is outrageous.
But the problem, the real only problem they said, the only problem is that when it's nighttime on that part of the planet where it's nighttime, the sun will be reflecting off of the space ring and lighting up the nighttime sky to the tune of the full moon or more every night.
You don't think that would screw up the animals?
You know, animals the moon, they don't understand clue what it is.
Sea turtles would be hardest hit.
I mean, you know, these things we're not supposed to have light up there because in the baby turtles hatch and they'll go the wrong places, they'll be totally confused.
You'll have sea turtle babies trying to jump into the sky to get to the light.
They haven't thought this through.
They really haven't thought this through the here's here's now the last global warming story.
Uh soot blamed for global warming underestimate.
We are underestimating the real global warming because of the soot up there.
This is from New Scientists.com.
Global warming looks set to be much worse than previously forecast, according to new research.
Ironically, the crucial evidence is how little warming there has been so far.
I'm not kidding.
That's what it says.
Global warming looks set to be much worse than previously forecast, according to new research.
Ironically, the crucial evidence is how little warming there's been.
Three top climate researchers claim that the greenhouse gas is already in the atmosphere, should have warmed the world far more than they have.
The reason they've not, they say, is that the warming is being masked by sun-blocking smoke, dust, and other polluting particles put into the air by human activity.
So we're saving ourselves and we don't even know it.
But at the same time, we're making asses asses out of these scientists because their predictions are not coming true.
Damn it, it'll be getting warmer up there.
We got global warming.
It's going.
The story tells me that there is no global warming.
There should be, but there isn't.
The soot's there.
We shouldn't be putting soot there.
If we weren't putting a soot there, the scientists would be right, folks.
We will pay for this.
Anti-soot legislation or what I'm just telling you, just doing a show prep, come across this stuff.
If you want to believe this absolute wacko science, you be my guest.
But don't ever ask me to be a signatory, folks.
It's just literally absurd.
Back after this.
Stay with us.
Okay, uh welcome back, folks.
Uh Rush Limboy here, having regained my composure after having shared with you these four uh global warming stories.
Now Bill and Kenosha, Wisconsin.
Nice to have you, sir.
Hey Rush, thanks for taking my call.
You bet.
I just uh retired.
I've been in Special Forces for twenty-some years, and uh we've spoken before.
I thanked you for your help uh as we were fighting the war in Iraq and mentioned that the Democrats were busy talking the war down, it would result in a longer war and more casualties.
But I think the counter to uh their position on Vietnam and the Quagmire is the Klagmire term was actually coined under uh John Kennedy by uh David Halberstam's review of of the situation.
And of course, out of that time when the numbers began to decline and we could no longer recruit, uh Johnson was forced to remove the uh student deferments, which caused the protest on campus, drove Johnson from office.
And uh the big hope for the 68 election for the Democrats was to be Bobby Kennedy who was assassinated by uh what you might call an Islamic terrorist.
That gave us then Nixon, of course, the next campaign they waged was Watergate, and out of that we got Carter.
And the big thing that happened out of that was the birth of of worldwide Islamic terrorism under the state of Iran.
Wait a minute.
This is good.
I never looked at it all this way, but you're absolutely right.
Well, it it has to do with the way they direct everyone's attention toward what they want you to think about.
And with every picture, there's always a shadow, or there's a negative.
And the other side of all of these developments they wish to try to claim credit for show that there's a direct connection between Islamic terrorism, there's certainly some connection between something Islamic and Bobby Kennedy's assassination, and we've never bothered to get into that.
Right.
But I mean, here Today we now know that that the newly elected leader of of Iran, so to speak, the leader, so to speak, was one of the hostage takers.
So things have come full circle, and we're really in a confrontation with Iran in Iraq right now.
Well, if this is the way you look at it, I mean, this is admittedly a uh uh uh challenging view.
I mean, what are you uh are you optimistic, pessimistic, or you're just observing?
Well, no, I've I've been working against these people for twenty-some years.
I'm very optimistic.
But like Johnson's situation where in sixty-eight he had to uh uh not reinstate the draft, he simply removed the deferment from college students, which brought Tom Hayden and others to the fore.
Right.
Um we are s we are our numbers in recruiting are sagging.
I just left an assignment where I ran uh recruiting in five states.
And uh we had done well over that period of time, but it was before the the press cacophony and and and of our politicians too had convinced parents to tell their children that going into the service at this point wasn't a good idea.
Well, you know, I've that that there's no question that that happened.
I mean, I remember somebody when the first month report of uh failing to meet recruiting goals, uh we got a call about it, and and I you know, rhetorically speaking, he said, Look, if if if you saw the news every day coming out of Iraq, would you want to join as opposed to the emotion you would feel after an attack such as nine eleven when they broom that for the news, no longer show us any pictures of it and treat Iraq as an ignoble unjust war, what what right-minded patriotic American would want to join?
That and that's I I think that's one of the purposes of this kind of reporting is to impact negatively this recruitment, right?
That's that's right.
And and I think, you know, once they can negatively impact recruitment, we come to what we call a culminating point where our strength is no longer sufficient to support the operations overseas, and that's when we become vulnerable at home.
But you know, there's some other things, again, you know, they direct your attention in one way, you don't see these other things.
Professionals in our business have to know these things because it's how you must work against them at at the tactical and even at the strategic levels.
But um, for example, it even gets stranger, uh the the terrorism that we experienced under Reagan was really Islamic, but it was Iranian inspired, because the Palestinian terror that arose in the early 70s was effectively capped by the Israelis who kept it local after Entebbe.
But uh the the Hezbollah, which were the ones that hijacked our airplanes under Reagan, were really Iranian inspired back then too.
Now you remember we went into Grenada in eighty three.
Uh one of the leaders of the parachute assault, uh one of the first Ranger uh commanders to hit the ground was a guy by the name of John Abizade.
And he's now the four star who runs Cinecom and is a great man, but he's also of of uh I believe it's of Lebanese extraction.
I don't know the family background.
But I mean, uh again, here's here's an American of extraction from that area who's actually doing a brilliant job uh trying to counter this.
And and people like him don't get much press, but of course he stood up the other day, embraced uh senators who were really fairly out of the box, and and did what a soldier should.
I've got a minute here.
What is what what is the um is there anything beyond the obvious with the election of this new Iranian president?
I think that what you really have is that the election was stolen to put this guy in office because the West regards the the the secular leader of Iran as as somebody to deal with.
Really it's a figurehead.
They did not want another person who seemed to want to welcome reforms because of course the person that they had before this was thought as a reformer, and no matter what happens, there aren't any reformers over there.
We've got a nuclear program here, we're very proud of it.
He's not he's not gonna try to play games at all.
This there's no reformers over there.
No, the the his predecessor was to the to the radical mulas an anathema, and and the name slips me now, but he actually did allow for free speech in certain areas, but that business of drift is dangerous to a place like Iran, and it's also dangerous to China.
And those right now, I would predict, within the next few years are going to be our our greatest threats.
The one from Iran, we are experiencing already in that uh Osama may be in Iran, and Iranian terrorists of various types are coming across the border.
You see, this is the thing too.
Insurgents are homegrown people fighting to take their own country.
Terrorists come from outside, and they are they're coming in from other places, terrorists, not insurgents.
So we improperly talk about an insurgency.
When in fact the Iraqi people are are are going to get control of the insurgency.
Bill, I gotta go.
I'm I'm sadly I'm out of time, but you're exactly right.
I I can't thank you enough for the phone call.
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