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A lot of people say, what is this Wenho Lee thing?
I haven't heard about it.
Let me just give you the details of the story very quickly.
A federal it's from June 28th, so it's a couple days ago.
Federal Appeals Court on Tuesday of this week upheld civil contempt of court findings against four journalists who refused to reveal their sources for stories about former nuclear scientist Wen Ho Lee.
He has filed a lawsuit alleging government officials leaked information about him to reporters, violating the privacy act in pointing to him as a suspect in the possible theft of nuclear secrets for China.
The federal court did not abuse its discretion in finding the journalists in contempt for reviews to answer questions under oath about their sources.
This from three appeals judges.
Here are the four reporters, H. Joseph Abair of the Associated Press, James Risen of the New York Times, Robert Drogan of the LA Times, and Pierre Thomas, formerly of CNN and now of ABC.
Uh AP will ask the full nine-member appeals court in Washington to review the case.
The appeals court reversed a contempt finding against New York Times reporter Jeff Gerth, saying there was insufficient evidence against him to uh sustain such a conclusion.
The legal troubles for these four reporters face fines of $500 a day come at a time of increasing hostility for the news media in the courts.
Now I've said earlier that I think this Valerie Plame business and Judy Miller and Matt Cooper going to jail.
Judy Miller, really over the top, because she never even wrote a story about this.
And I know the law of those laws, the law of the law, but you know, it's to me.
But this is a different thing.
This you had government officials linking leaking absolute BS.
I folks.
It's it's it's about time this stuff was brought to an end.
Let me just put it this way.
It was about time that high government officials stop hiding behind this sheath of anonymity to be able to leak a bunch of absolute BS.
And in this about people, and in this case, it got Wenho Lee fired and it destroyed his reputation, and he's totally innocent.
The federal judge uh involved in his case issued an apology to him for the United States of America from the bench.
It's almost unprecedented for that to happen.
And these four reporters were the vehicles used to make all this happen in the minds of the public because of their high anonymous sources close to the investigation or or whatever, high government officials.
You know, and so this it's this anonymous source business that is at the uh at the root of the recent hostility toward the media, make no mistake.
Well, one of the many roots of uh recent hostility toward the uh toward the media.
Now, I want to share with you something that our old buddy F. Lee Levin posted at National Review Online last night, because the Democrats are still out there, as you've heard in the first hour, still out there trying to make the case that President Bush is lying through his teeth when he says that 9-11 and Iraq have a connection.
He's never said it.
The Democrats are trying to convince everybody he said it.
The press may believe he said it.
I I think that they look at things these days with such blinders on, they get they get a template in their head, and they don't hear any.
The template becomes a boundary, and anything that contradicts a templary just bounces off of it.
It is stunning, like there's no connection between Al Qaeda and Iraq.
There's ten years of evidence.
You can't get a mainstream press reporter to get it, to understand it.
They won't see it because they're blinded by whatever else is uh is in front of their face, and that is Bush is lying.
Bush is lying, Bush is lying, Bush is lying, Bush is illegitimate, there were no weapons of mass destruction.
The Supreme Court selected him in 2000.
There's such a blinding rage that facts do not permeate.
And so they they're out there from members of Congress to certain members of the press are all trying to pass off this notion that Bush is lying now, not only about weapons of mass destruction, but he's lying about the fact that Iraq had something to do with 9 11.
He never said it.
He didn't say it Tuesday night.
So Levin went back and read the resolution that these members of Congress demanded.
There was already a resolution that they all signed, granting the president total power to do whatever he had to do to respond to 9 11 shortly after 9 11.
Then the 2002 campaign, the midterm campaign came along.
And right in the middle of the campaign, the Democrats got some polling debt in it, and they learned that they're very weak in the minds of the public when it comes to national defense.
So they started talking tough and they started demanding this and demanding that.
They wanted a new resolution.
They said the previous resolution that was signed and passed after 9 11 didn't cover Iraq.
They wanted to go on the record.
This was in the middle of the campaign, maybe September of 2002, when this all started.
This is when they should have been talking about their kitchen table issues and so forth for the midterm elections in 2002.
Instead, Bush said, okay, you guys want to do a second resolution, go right ahead.
Rope a dope again, allowing the Democrats, permitting them to drop what they thought were their strong suit issues and pick up their weak issue and try to make a thing out of it.
So the um the joint resolution was actually signed on October 11th, 2002.
Among others, here are the signatories, Harry Reed, Hillary Rodham, Charles Schumer, Chucky, to those of you in New York, Chris Dodd, John Kerry, uh, he served in Vietnam, by the way.
John Edwards, Joe Biden, and Jay Rockefeller, among many other Democrats, voted for the October 11th, 2002 congressional joint resolution authorizing the president on his discretion to go to war.
Here, and this is the this is the crux of it.
Listen to what the resolution said.
Whereas members of Al Qaeda, an organization bearing responsibility for attacks on the United States, its citizens and interests, including the attacks that occurred on September 11, 2001, are known to be in Iraq.
Whereas Iraq continues to aid and harbor other international terrorist organizations, including organizations that threaten the lives and safety of the United States citizens.
Where the attacks on the United States of September 11th, 2001 underscored the gravity of the threat posed by the acquisition of weapons of mass destruction by international terrorist organizations, blah, blah, blah.
Not a single news person bothered to ask any of the critics of the president's speech the other night how they can square their offense at the president's linking terrorism to the war against Iraq when they did the same exact thing in their own resolution that they demanded.
They demanded a chance to debate another resolution to write one, and they did.
And you'll note of the three whereas what comes last, weapons of mass destruction.
What comes first?
Let me read it to you again.
Whereas members of Al Qaeda, an organization bearing responsibility for attacks on the U.S., its citizens and interests, including the attacks that occurred on 9-11, are known to be in Iraq.
Whereas members of Al-Qaeda are known to be in Iraq.
Again, Harry Reid, Hillary Clinton, Charles Schumer, Chris Dodd, John Kerry, John Edwards, Joe Biden, Jay Rockefeller, all voted for this.
Whereas Iraq continues to aid and harbor other international terrorist organizations, including organizations that threaten the lives and safety, they were so hell-bent on showing the American people that they were Rambo.
They were so hellbent on showing them that they were Schwarzenegger, they were the terminator, they were tough guys too, that they authored this thing and then signed it.
Now it's listen to them to this day.
The president what?
The president lied.
The president's making things up.
The president is making it all up.
There was no Al Qaeda in Iraq, and there was no Al Qaeda Iraq connection in 9-11.
There was none of that.
President White about weapons of mass destruction.
They all agreed back then.
They all authored this resolution, demanded it.
Now, a responsible media would be going to these people and saying, What the hell are you talking about?
Back on October 11th of 2002, you signed this resolution.
You wrote it and you signed it.
What are you talking about?
What are you talking about?
No.
When these people say something, the press duly says that's what they say and forces everybody to react to what the Democrats are saying.
It gets even better.
Let's go to audio soundbite seven and eight.
Uh Mike.
Last night on Hardball with Chris Matthews, and it's going to illustrate a lot.
We got two bites here.
He talked to Howard Dean, Dr. Dean.
And Matthews said, last night, the president said the war in Iraq is part of the war on terrorism.
What did you make of that, Governor?
There are terrible foreign terrorists over there.
They have been drawn to Iraq where they were not there before because we put our troops there.
So you could debate the wisdom of that.
The other people that are creating the mayhem in the streets of Baghdad are people who are uh fighting for their country.
There are local people who disagree with their occupation.
So Howard Dean calling the terrorists in Iraq people who are fighting for their country who disagree with our occupation.
This is the leader of the Democratic Party who says that he may as well say they're the the the modern equivalents of our founding fathers.
Well, we know this is not the case.
We know that the vast majority of the quote unquote insurgents are nothing more than terrorists, are coming into Iraq from the Syrian side and from the Iranian side, primarily the Syrian side, and there's some coming in from Saudi Arabia as well.
But it gets better.
The next question from Matthews.
Do you believe the president still trying to perpetrate the myth, the notion that it was Iraq that attacked us on 9-11?
Chris, he has not one time done that.
This is what I mean about these people wearing blinders and having a boundary around them so when facts intersect, the template that is the boundary just rejects the facts.
They've got this template set up.
They've been on it so long, they actually believe Bush has all along said that Iraq had something to do with 9-11.
He has said just the opposite.
The president has said publicly in press conferences, in response to questions.
No, we don't think there was a connection between Iraq and 9-11.
I don't know how plain it can be.
I do not know how more plain spoken the president could be.
And yet listen to these guys, and he's lying, and he's saying something else, and he's operating on a myth.
And here's Dean's response to this.
Sure.
I think the president made a terrible, terrible mistake in getting us into Iraq.
And now we really have a big problem in our hands.
We have a security problem that we didn't have before.
Now the president trying to is trying to make this into a war on terrorism.
It is a war on terrorism in the sense that there are certainly international terrorists in Iraq.
The point is there weren't any to speak of before we got there.
No, they were all making tracks to get into the United States and other nations where we had installations.
This is this is it is impossible to conceive of the of the mind processes of these people.
It is just impossible.
You have to be blinded by such rage, paranoia, and defeatism to come up with this kind of thinking to justify your positions that it is beyond my ability as a rational, logical person to explain this to you.
Back after this.
Stay with us.
Half my brain tied behind my back just to make it fair.
And we're all interested in fairness here.
It's the Rush Limbaugh program of the EIB network, and this is Jenny in Rockford, Michigan.
Hi, Jenny.
Homeschooling dittoes, Mr. Limbaugh.
Thank you very much.
I have to disagree with you, and I never thought I would do that, but I have to disagree with you.
I think that the reason why we're having the discussion that we are today is because there is no consequence for reporters in their reporting when it's alive, when it's inaccurate, when it's supposed, when it's nothing more than a whim or a poke at a balloon.
They want to get a rise out of somebody that want to just get printed because it's controversial.
There is absolutely no consequence.
And when there's no consequence, there's there's not they're not going to change anything.
They're not going to change that behavior.
It's a fine line.
In the case of Judith Miller and Matt Cooper, the law is the law.
I I know.
The uh, you know, the the the if they go to jail, it's gonna be cut be because they refuse to follow a court order.
The court has ordered them to turn over a list of their confidential sources.
Uh and that is the law.
I I understand it.
And I you know, I said earlier the Valerie Plame thing is no big deal.
It isn't in the big scope of the it was when it first happened.
You have to remember why the Democrats were hoping it would result in Carl Rove going to jail.
Right.
The Democrats hoped they were going to be able to tie this back to uh to Rove.
The White House called for this investigation since they were accused here.
They're high levels of the administration, but there have been no charges or anything.
I understand the reporters that they they face law like everybody else, and they've got to be, you know, the court order says you're gonna tell us who your sources are to say nope, okay.
You're in contempt of court.
And they've been getting plenty of time to think about it.
So that's a it's a it's a fine line here.
And I know that if it were if the situation were reversed, these people couldn't wait to see me go to jail.
Well, and the problem with me is I really don't think it's a fine line.
I think that if you're a conservative, you have to toe the line.
And you're constantly justifying yourself and justifying your argument and backing it up with evidence and backing that evidence up with evidence.
And if you're a liberal, you have this carte blanche ability to just throw anything out there if it sticks, it sticks, and if it doesn't, it doesn't, and if it sticks, well then look, it's stuck and it's a story, and it might have led to something, but if it doesn't, well, we can just push that under the rug.
I try not to personalize these things, Rob.
I really really do, but uh in this case I have to respond personally.
You are not telling me anything I don't know.
And you're not telling me anything that I've I have uh I've I've faced personally, uh all of this unsourced anonymous sources and sources close to this or s sources close to that, and you wouldn't believe the amount of BS that's out there, and they can hide behind it and they can and they can uh And they wrap themselves in the First Amendment as though they know, I know, and there's no I know what you're saying about there being no consequences.
You make a powerful point.
I will uh I will I will I'll admit that.
I it it is you know when you come down to it, the law's the law on this.
Well, that's why we read the Limbaugh letter, and at least we we uh know the truth when we read it.
Well, it uh points out one of the the problems if the press wants to understand the problem they've got, uh, and I don't think they do.
I I think that it's not just the press, it's just it's the whole left.
I think there's such a an arrogance and a condescension there, uh, an elitism, if you will.
We're smarter than everybody else, we're better than everybody else, we're more important than everybody else.
There is a little bit of, hey, you can't hold us accountable to these laws that Jolapions to.
Who who do you think you know?
We're we're we're defenders of the Constitution here.
No, no, the defenders of the Constitution are in Iraq and Afghanistan.
If you uh you want to get down to it.
But this this constant use of uh unnamed anonymous sources.
Look where got newsweek.
Uh and and uh and look how the media circle the wagons to protect Newsweek uh after that.
And they they circle the wagons any time any of their uh cherished members uh do something wrong, they'll circle the wagons and try to come out with stories to prove that they're wronged member of the club was actually right, which is what all this club gitmo stuff is about, folks.
All this all this reporting on Club Gitmo about how it's a hor torture chamber down there, it's all because of the Newsweek story.
And they're I told you it's gonna happen.
They're circling the wagons trying to make sure that Newsweek uh is ultimately proved right because they do think that if Newsweek goes down, it's bad for all of them.
That's another thing, it makes it unlike real life America.
In this sense, if in a normal business setting, you've got time and U.S. news that compete with Newsweek, okay?
So Newsweek does something wrong.
In the in the business world, you'd have time and U.S. news exploiting this to the end of the earth, trying to destroy Newsweek to get its advertisers to get its readers and to grow your own public.
When you're a when your competitor makes a goof up like this, but oh no, no, no, not in the mainstream press.
It's circle the wagons time.
Because even though they write for time, or they write for Newsweek, or they write for U.S. News, doesn't matter where they work, they all have the same template.
They all have the same agenda, they all have got the same view of things, and so they're all Indians in the same TP.
And if that TP is attacked, they all got to go on and circle the wagons of the buffalo or whatever uh and protect each other.
And it it just it ought to go to show you there I don't even think there's much competition.
Particularly in the in the elite print media.
Uh look, they circled the wagons around Dan Rather.
They did everything, they had all kinds of honorary dinners for him and gave him the Peabody uh award for great news coverage on Abu Grab.
Um it's not it's not just the um it's not just the print side.
Uh I it th but the the uh notion that there are no consequences uh for their mistakes uh that's a that's a powerful point because they're uh they're other than losing audience, but they don't seem to care about that.
I mean, they are losing audience, but they don't seem to care.
It's the most amazing, they don't even care about that.
And they say, well, the audience is too stupid.
Well, we don't want those people if they're not smart enough to know how good we are.
That's just it boggles them up.
I couldn't, I wouldn't have survived if I had that attitude.
I I you people would have never heard of me.
It's just break time, uh be right back after this.
Don't go away.
Tickling those 88s with talent on loan from God.
And back to the phones.
Trick, one more here before we get back to the uh stacks of stuff.
I go to Washington, Missouri.
Hello, Cliff, you're next.
Hey Rush, thanks for taking my call.
You bet.
Hey, Russ, I'd like to comment on the president's speech the other night, if I could.
I seen kind of like a shift in strategy.
I think he was preparing a nation for what I see as a long haul.
And I was wondering what you thought about that.
Well, uh okay, I'll be glad to tell you, I distinctly remember when the pre president first spoke after 9-11.
And then I remember when he spoke to the nation the night we launched our attack against the terrorists at the time in Afghanistan.
And I remember on both occasions, he said it's gonna take a long time, that this war may and probably will last longer than his two terms, his presidency.
He said at the time, if he were fortunate to get a second term.
I have never been under the illusion that this is gonna happen uh overnight.
I don't know where people are getting the notion that it was.
Now, some people, I well, actually I do.
I think some people are somehow failing to see the linkage between Iraq and the war on terror.
They see the war on terror to Afghanistan as the war on terror, and then they see the war in Iraq as the war in Iraq.
And then they see the president going on the aircraft carrier and saying, job well done, uh victory is ours, whatever the science said.
And so then they they they see, okay, the war on terror is in Iraq is going on in Iraq in Afghanistan's ongoing, but in Iraq, uh President already said we claim victory, but yet it's still going on there.
I don't have any trouble with these distinctions.
The purpose of going into Iraq was to get rid of the Hussein regime and to get our hands around the weapons of mass destruction.
And we accomplished it.
And there was no, there was, I don't, I don't think there's anything particularly wrong with declaring victory.
That was the mission objective there.
So we are in the process of then rebuilding and re-establishing Iraq as a functioning democracy for lack of better term.
I mean, a country with self-determination with open and free elections, rebuilding the infrastructure, and bam, oh, here come some terrorists coming into the country.
Um additional terrorists, because we know that Al Qaeda has always had links to Iraq.
And so the war on terror shifts.
Nobody thinks the war on terror was over when Afghanistan was subdued, do they?
Haven't yet heard anybody.
No, they can't nobody.
Mr. Snerdley, don't even try.
The Democrats have been out there saying the war won't be over until we get bin Laden.
Now, there may have been some, you know, jerks out there saying the war on terror was over with Afghanistan, but nobody anywhere that has any credibility whatsoever is saying that.
The war on terror was never over after Afghanistan.
So there's a new front in Iraq.
Now, the best I can think that the opposition come up with is this argument.
Well, yeah, it's an Iraq, but it wouldn't have happened in Iraq if we hadn't gone in there.
Well, we didn't go in there specifically to battle terrorists.
We went in there to rid the world of weapons of mass destruction because terrorists could get a hand on those, and then we'd all be up a creek.
What folks, what are the okay, then I say that, remind everybody of that, then I know what the response could be.
Well, yeah, but there weren't any Western weapons of mass destruction because Bush lied.
I can't win with people that think like that.
We've got a reality that's right in front of our face, and we got people, Nimrods, who refuse to see it.
I don't know how to deal with them.
It makes no sense to me whatsoever.
The fact that it makes sense to them is the biggest mystery of my life, other than why are we all here?
But the say that with humor, folks, don't get upset out there.
Um of this is so logical to me.
If you have a basic understanding that we're the good guys, and there are people that want to wipe us out.
Now, if you come from a different position, that we're the lone superpower, and therefore we're the bad guys, and we deserve what we get, or we have no right to defend ourselves, then maybe I could begin to understand the convoluted way you look at things.
But I will never be convinced you're right about the convoluted way you look at things.
This all makes total sense.
There has not been a shift.
The president hasn't shifted at all.
He's been utterly consistent.
You know, I look at, and I a lot of you people think, well, yeah, Rush, but you know, all you are, you're just a shill for the White House.
Oh, you do and just sit out there and regard state, whatever.
Wrong.
I've got a story here that I literally don't understand.
1.2 billion dollars in aids to aid to Africa for malaria.
We're just keep piling on more aid to Africa.
It's not the answer to the question.
And I'm saying, why are we doing this now?
And I think the answer is PR for live eight.
What PR for live eight?
This concert coming up Saturday over in Paris.
Want to get in on all this worldwide recognition.
White House responding to all these claims, we don't do enough.
We do so much for Africa.
You know, there's a story.
I have it in the stack here.
I forgot where I don't know if I even printed it out, but some African expert.
Oh strangely enough, folks, it's Tina Brown's column today in the Washington Post.
And even stranger than that, it makes some sense today.
Yes.
Tina Brown is writing about how she's sick and tired, and granted she had a show that didn't work, but she's sick and tired of watching the same old thing repeated on cable television.
The same pointy headed intellectual guests, the same politicians, the same format, the same arguing back and forth, same BS.
They're not getting expert guests, they're not, and she talks about some guy who's an expert on Africa that you never hear about because he's too boring on television.
But he's come up, look, Africa's had troubles for the longest time, and people look at Africa romantically and think it's just waiting to be fixed.
He said the problem with Africa is the smartest people leave.
The smartest people in Africa leave and they come to the West or they go to other regions of the world, they go to Europe, they get educated and they stay there.
They don't stay there.
They leave Africa.
He says a brain drain, a number of other things like this in the point.
And that's something that makes sense.
So here we're the idea that we don't give money to Africa, we don't support Africa, we haven't assisted Africa.
Hell's bells, folks.
We're in a process.
We still can't nail it down.
We're in the process of nailing down how many, how many billions, billions, billions over just the last 20 years that we've dished out there.
So I just, you know, all of these things uh disagree with the president on immigration, disagree with the president on some of his domestic policies in the first term, education, all this spending on education, where is it getting us?
Uh so there's no shillack going on here.
I'm just, I'm just when it comes to the war in Iraq and the war on terror, he has been as consistent on it as anything.
In fact, he doesn't change his mind about anything.
That's one of the things that now the left gets mad at him.
He won't even change his mind.
He won't even say sorry, he won't even admit mistakes.
Now he's got his beliefs, and he's out there trying to ram them through.
He's trying to accomplish things.
You know, and but when it comes to the war in Iraq and a war and terror, nobody that I know ever thought it was going to be over by now, and nobody I know that's got a scintilla of intelligence, thought the war on terror was over when when uh when Iraq was quote now.
Nancy Pelosi said the war, I take it back.
There is a glittering jewel of colossal ignorance.
I should have known it resides in the leadership of the Democratic Party.
Nancy Pelosi said last week the war in Afghanistan's over.
And she's trying to make the point that the war on terror is over, and now Bush is trying to say the war in Iraq is the war on terror, which it is, because That's who we're fighting.
So a long answer to the question out there, Cliff, but no, I don't think there's been a shift at all.
Jack in Columbia, South Carolina.
Welcome to the program.
Oh, it's gonna be hard to follow those words of wisdom there, Rush.
Well, it's always hard for a caller to follow the host.
I understand that, but uh you can do it.
That's why you were chosen.
Well, my take on this Lee reporters not wanting to give their sources is what if they do not have any sources?
They just made it up on the fly to get some name recognition.
Oh no.
It's a it's it's sorry.
No, that that's an interesting, that's an interesting point.
The Sacramento B just just uh just reported that there were 43 people, sources, instances, whatever, that a fired reporters could uh that they couldn't account for in her writing over ten years.
She just made it up.
We know this happens.
Janet, what's her face, made up a drug addict and got up, got a got a what about a pulitzer out of it?
Yeah, Janet, Janet Cook, yeah.
We know that what's his name of the New York Times?
Uh Jason Blair.
Uh we know Stephen Glass of the New Republic.
His people are all over the place, just literally making it up.
Dan Rather.
Dan Rather not only made it up, but had somebody forge some documents for him.
He knew.
And still thinks it's true.
In fact, yes, that's the point.
It in fact he knows this story is so true, he went and made up the facts to uh to convince everybody.
So your point is what if there are no anonymous sources?
Well, they just made it up.
Well, that and also if I was a reporter and I got burned by a high-ranking administrative source and I got called before a federal judge and was held in contempt, I would burn the anonymous source down with me instead of hiding behind some kind of protection simply because I couldn't admit the truth.
That's what people were saying after the newsweek boondoggle on on Bibles at Club or Korans at Club Gitmo.
Okay, so somebody administration really set Newsweek up.
Why don't you burn that source?
No, you've you you're doing a great job of following the host here, Jack.
Well, thank you, sir.
You're doing a great job.
Now, this is not to say that these four reporters in a win-hole Lee case made it up.
But it has to be thrown out as a possibility.
He has to conclude it may be possible.
The New York Times had to fire people for this.
Washington Post, I don't know what problems they've had in this regard.
Um but i it's I think there's an AP reporter in there too.
Um in this case, it probably is a high-ranking government.
It was the Clinton administration.
I it probably was somebody at government.
There probably is a source.
Uh but don't forget when you're in the media, mainstream press in Washington, and the administration is the Clinton administration, your high-level sources are your drinking buddies.
Your high-level sources, you know, they're the ones you go chase women with.
Your high-level sources, your f your or they may be the women you chase.
You they are your friends, is the point, and you don't want to burn your friends.
You may take them up privately.
What the hell are you doing setting me up?
You're not gonna burn them.
Because a high-level government source one time may be one next uh administration.
It's such an incestuous pool out there, folks.
It just is.
This is kind of funny.
This is from The Hill.
Representative Steve Israel, a Democrat from New York, organizing a letter with other House Democrats.
Asking asking Defense Secretary Rumsfeld to repudiate Carl Rove's recent comments about the liberal response to the 9-11 terrorists.
Israel was among several other Democrat lawmakers who spoke spoke out this week in uh in in floor speeches.
They want they want Rumsfeld to write row and say, Rove, you're wrong.
These Democrats didn't ask for therapy and they didn't want indictments.
They were with us that they wanted to go uh peddle to the metal to go get these guys.
Now, does this not tell you something?
These are the people that are trying to get Rumsfeld thrown in jail.
Rumsfeld has been sued by some group personally over torture.
It's a group that votes Democrat.
The Democrats in the House and the Senate before uh, you know, when they have hearings, are always trying to blame Rumsfeld for this and blame Rumsfeld for this, telling Rumsfeld they ought to resign.
Now they want Rumsfeld to repudiate Rove.
It's just Michelle in Chicago.
Hi, Michelle.
Welcome to the Rush Limbaugh program.
It's a pleasure to have you with us.
Hi, Rush.
Hi.
Can you hear me?
Yeah, just as clear as a bell.
Oh, good.
I wanted to thank you for the tremendous amount of respect that you show your audience, as well as the daily lesson in uh logic and clear thinking that we can take throughout our day and use for other things.
And I the the analogy you drew between the search in Aruba and the search for the weapons of mass destruction was brilliant.
That's just a small recent example.
But I I mean I've used my lessons from the EIB network in all areas of life, and I just wanted to thank you for that.
Well, you are more than welcome.
I appreciate your saying that, Michelle.
You're wonderful.
You're a gift to us, and um everything you say, you know, the arrogance of the laugh, to the there's a difference between arrogance and confidence.
That comes through crystal clear if a person would just listen to you.
You know, arrogance is sort of hiding from logic and just saying, no, it's me.
I can say what I want.
Whereas you, you know, you you're always acknowledging that uh your talent is on loan from God.
And I know it's I know it's tongue in cheek, but it's it's true as well.
You know.
One of the things I like to one of the things I like to do is tweak the lift.
I've known from the get-go that that small Nimrod-minded Democrats would think I was saying, I think I'm God.
Exactly.
Talent on loan from God.
And I I just love I just love tweaking them that way.
I love doing things to tweak the left to get them all upset because that's when they're funniest.
And you do a good job.
Wonderful.
Excellent.
Thank you, Michelle.
Appreciate you're very kind.
Carrie in Bakersfield, California.
Hello, sir.
Welcome to the program.
Oh, man, what a thrill to be speaking to the man.
Yes.
I think uh I don't know which half of your brain I'm speaking to, but um, somebody I want to talk to the whole thing.
But my my point is um the Democrats, for those of us that are over fifty, it's just kind of amazing that we're hearing this Vietnam thing rehashed over and over again.
Carrie tried it, of course, during the last election.
But uh holy smoke, uh if you just substitute the word Vietnam every time they talk about Iraq, or if you if you substitute uh uh substitute Ho Chi Minh for Saddam.
I mean, whatever.
I mean, they love Ho Chi Min.
It's exactly the same thing.
I mean, I'm I'm reliving this, I'm having my own uh groundhog day thing all over again.
But uh this is this is the same doggone stuff.
They've never won election uh running on an anti-war platform.
Tell me where that's ever worked, it doesn't work, and they just keep doing that.
Exactly.
They're their whole their whole playbook.
That's what's amazing to watch this.
Their whole playbook is a bunch of losing plays, no touchdowns.
Uh and yet they keep going, they keep going back to it.
Uh the Vietnam Work, I saw I was watching uh Brit Hume's Fox uh show, six o'clock, uh, one night this week, and uh they went back.
This is show prep for the rest of the media stuff.
They went back and they actually got all kinds of video of the Democrats and the press in press primarily the press, but but a lot of Democrats too, uh asking President Bush if this Iraq thing is just not Vietnam all over again.
Going back two and three years.
Uh they've been at it that long trying to because that's the glory days.
It was the the they called Afghanistan a quagmire after a while because not enough was going on there.
Uh and and so everything is yeah, the template of Vietnam.
That that's that's why you're seeing it out there, Gare, is because that's what they're reliving.
Because to them, that and Watergate, those those were the two things where they think in their past they have been most powerful uh and most influential.
And they're just you know, they're like a bunch of people that uh just can't get over the glory days and want to relive them over and over again because nothing new and exciting uh is as powerful or good.
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