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June 16, 2005 - Rush Limbaugh Program
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June 16, 2005, Thursday, Hour #2
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Yeah, I'm I'm sitting here thinking, folks, if this treatment uh that we are continuing to uh uh meet out to detainees, uh prisoners of war, terrorists in waiting at Gitmo.
If the word of how they're being treated keeps getting out, we're gonna have Al-Qaeda people surrendering all over the world trying to get in the place.
They're treated better then they live in their own countries.
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Speaking of the website, we uh we have uh you know we've opened our Club Gitmo uh resort paradise section of the website where you can check it out and uh just just see some of the amenities and things that go on.
We're even offering, and these are flying out of the EIB store like hot cakes.
They may be our hottest selling item ever, the e the uh Club Gitmo t-shirts.
They're I mean, they're really moving out of there, Mr. Sterley.
I just got a report in the last hour.
We've got two of them.
They're the the same shirt, but they have different things uh printed on them.
They're 1995, they come in small up to double X. Uh one t-shirt says uh Club Gitmo on the front, and on the back, your tropical retreat from the stress of jihad.
And the uh other t-shirt says Club Gitmo on the front, and on the back says my Mullow went to Club Gitmo, and all I got was this lousy t-shirt.
We might even add slogans so that you can get you can buy one or both, by the way.
Uh, and we're working on other items to add to our Club Gitmo gift shop as part of the EIB store.
While you're at the website, you have a chance they have to do it now, but at some point know that it's there.
We had a court hearing yesterday on this uh never-ending battle, uh, in which I'm forced to give up my privacy to prove my innocence uh regarding my medical records, the state attorney's office here in Palm Beach County, continuing their quest to see all of them, or arguing about what they get to see pending uh depending as a result of all these appeals.
But we filed a motion for the hearing yesterday that um it's a long motion, it's uh one point nine megabytes, it's over 40 pages.
But you legal beagles will love it all.
For those of you who just want to read the bare minimum of this to get an idea of what this is really all about in this so-called charge of doctor shopping.
Uh uh read pages two and four through nine.
Page two and then pages four through nine, uh, and it'll give you a uh uh just a tremendous understanding of what this is all about and and how bogus it all is.
Uh there are also a couple newspaper stories that we have published alongside the motion that both are pretty good uh uh rehashes of what happened as far as they go.
One's in the Palm Beach Daily News, the others in the Palm Beach Post.
Uh the AP story and the night ridder story that went out yesterday, both of them uh night readers not bad.
It just it it folk it just it misses the point.
Uh and the AP story was just uh it was useless.
It was absolutely useless.
And it was the uh it was the first one that went out, and it's probably what most of you have seen.
So if you've read that and looked at it, you don't have any idea what happened uh yesterday.
Just go look at our motion and look at those two newspaper stories at Rush Limbaugh.com and they're right in the upper right hand uh corner, uh or near the upper right hand of the uh of the homepage at W.rush Limbaugh.com.
The telephone number, if you want to be on the program uh today is 800 282-2882.
The email address is rush at eIB net.com.
I want to go back because I know uh listening patterns are such that some may not have been listening last hour who just tuned in recently, such as this hour.
I want to play three sound bites from Time Magazine reporter Michael Duffy.
Once again, Duffy, and we had one of these sound bites on Tuesday, uh, but all three of them I want to play for you now in sequence.
Last night on Hardball on MSNBC, Michael Duffy of Time uh appeared with Matthews to talk about the situation with the detainees at Gitmo, and this is what he said.
Most of my emails running are from people who are calling me and saying, What so what?
Why aren't we pulling their Fingernails out.
Why, you know, why you're talking about stuff that's relatively modest and within the rules, and you seem outraged by this.
We're not outraged, we're just reporting it.
But the most of the email traffic is uh essentially from conservatives who say, so what?
Let's do more.
Why are we doing who cares what they're doing?
Let's just do more of it and get as much intelligence as we can out of these guys.
Now, the the thing about this bite here uh is you're talking about stuff relatively modest within the rules, and you seem outraged by this, we're not outraged.
Why are you out?
If you're not outraged, why are you running the story, Mr. Duffy?
All of this, by the way, comes from that erroneous Newsweek story about the Koran being flushed down the toilet at Gitmo.
That's what started all this.
Great example of how left-wing propaganda germinates and flowers and spreads like fertilizer all through the society.
Seth, the classic case of it.
Great illustration for you young budding political scientists to learn how the left inculcates their message into the minds of as many unsuspecting citizens as possible.
Mr. Duffy, if you're not outraged by the story, you're just reporting it.
What are you leaving out?
You're only reporting one side of this.
You're only reporting something, and it's totally out of context, by the way.
But if you're not outraged by it, why is it rate so many words?
Why does it rate the cover?
Uh now the next two bites are really telling.
This was last night on Hardball.
It's a short bite about nine seconds.
And Michael Duffy of Time Magazine here is uh basically talking uh well, he's answering a question.
Matthew says, Well, well, we're talking about making them stay there until they do die, right?
I mean, that that that question alone is absurd.
Well, yeah, we're gonna keep these prisoners there till they're dead, folks.
That's the that's the Getsy Game plan.
Keep them there till they're dead.
This was this was Duffy's reply.
One of the things we also learned is that these guys are really good at resisting interrogation.
They're really good at it.
They've been trained.
They know how to throw back every trick, every psychological trick.
Really good, really, really good at resisting interrogation, really good at it.
They've been trained.
Listen to him two days ago describe the 20th hijacker, the subject of the time cover story at Gitmo.
He's a weirdly innocent guy.
He doesn't he asks, for example, his captors whether the planets revolve around the sun.
He wants to know about dinosaurs and how they died and what they were.
He clearly has no knowledge of where Cuba is.
He thinks it might be in Florida.
He doesn't exactly sure where Florida is either.
Stop the tape.
He sounds like he's a graduate of the American public school system to me.
Has very almost no understanding of the United States or the U.S. government or the Constitution or the Bible or Christianity.
He he's childlike uh in his uh ignorant and in an oddly 18th-century way, you know.
So that that emerges uh from that the the hijackers, 19 of whom have died, and we'll never really get to know were children.
Children who had been, you know, convinced that this was a good way to spend their time.
We'll never gonna get to know them.
They're just children, and we won't we won't be able to understand uh why they did what they did.
Childlike, childlike innocence.
Weirdly, weirdly innocent.
See, Mr. Duffy, uh this is why the American people are increasingly disgusted with what's called the mainstream media.
Here you have Time magazine and all the others running with stories intended to undermine the war effort.
There's no doubt that that's the purpose.
But they pretend, as you just heard, that that's not at all what they're trying to do, but there's no context for their stories, historical or otherwise.
Duncan Hunter's revelations.
Duncan Hunter should not have had to be the one to trot out the food.
If there was honest reporting of what's going on at Gitmo, we would have learned this in Mr. Duffy's story.
Or whoever wrote it, we would have learned it in Time magazine.
We would have learned the way they're being fed.
We would have learned about the five prayer sessions of the day.
We would have learned about the free Qurans.
We would have learned about all kinds of things that are being done to make these people comfortable and be tolerant of their religion.
We're more tolerant of their religion than we are tolerant of Americans' religion in this country.
We're more encouraging of their religion, but none of this is in the Times story.
There's no context here.
Duncan Hunter's revelations would won't be reported the way the attacks on our efforts are in Time Magazine.
Or already the press is saying, well, didn't Duncan Hunter go too far?
Trying to make the Republican case here.
Didn't he go too far?
Went too far, he just reported what goes on at Gitmo.
The Same thing as Time Magazine did.
Why didn't it time go too far?
Why can't we say that time and newsweek went too far?
If we're going to assume by virtue of the template that Duncan Hunter and the Republicans went too far.
Because, you know, Duffy, Time Magazine, they should have reported what Hunter revealed before Hunter revealed him, if his news organization was seriously balanced, and then they think that we're so stupid.
They tell us uh what we're reading and hearing isn't biased or one-sided or incomplete that they're merely reporting information.
They deign to tell us that they're not biased.
Once again, insulting everybody's intelligence because everybody knows that they don't understand how they come off to people.
They really don't understand how we see them, and that's one of their problems.
Same thing with the Democrats like Dick Durbin.
All right, a quick timeout.
We'll be back.
We will resume right after this.
Okay, let's go to the phones because people have been patiently waiting.
Welcome back to the award-winning Rush Limbaugh program.
And Martha in Chicago.
Great to have you with us.
Thank you.
Um Rush, it's a privilege to speak with you.
I am outraged by Senator Durbin.
I have to tell you, I live in Illinois.
I am a community college professor, and as such, uh dues are taken out of my paycheck and contributed to this man's campaign.
On top of it, I have a son in Iraq and a stepson in Camp Pendleton awaiting deployment to Iraq.
So the whole thing just infuriates me.
I got an email uh in my members' mailbox, a subscriber side of the website mailbox from uh a woman who said, get off of this.
Stop talking.
You're never gonna change Durbin's mind.
You're not gonna, you're not gonna change the liberals' mind.
You're not gonna change the she called them traitors, the traitors' minds on this.
Get on this uh we're we're losing the talk about Bush's agenda as you keep talking about this.
And the w uh maybe some of you all uh also have that point of view.
Martha's call here is why we're talking about this.
She's got a son.
Absolutely.
You know, uh I've got a subject around the hallways at my college, and I see some of my liberal arts colleagues with anti-Bush stuff in their offices, on their doors, on their windows, all kinds of stuff about Abu Ghraib and the horrors, and I and I'm just I can't even tell you how frustrating it is to know that my.
Well, you don't have to tell me because we all know.
We all know how frustrating it is, and I'm I uh I uh you don't have to tell us.
But I'm not trying to persuade Durbin.
In fact, I say I will hope he doesn't apologize.
He's speaking for the Democrats.
He's exactly he's telling us who the Democrats are, folks.
I mean, it's one thing for me to sit here and tell you who I think they are.
Even though I'm right, when you hear it from somebody like Durbin, what more needs to be said?
This is who they are.
They have contempt for victory, contempt for the U.S. military, contempt for our superpower status, and contempt for the soldiers.
We're not supposed to be winning this thing.
If we were getting shellac, they'd be happy.
They really would, because it would be redounding negatively to Bush.
That's all of this is already this is electoral politics to them, folks.
They're putting that above everything else.
Uh the reason we continue to talk about this is we're not trying to change any liberals' minds.
That's not the point.
It'll happen.
What we're trying to do is inform people.
This was said, what Durbin said was said at 7.16 Eastern time on Tuesday night on the floor of the U.S. Senate.
And I doubt that too many people were watching.
And uh it didn't take long for what he said to reverberate uh throughout the country.
Here's Todd in Raleigh, North Carolina.
Great you called, sir.
Welcome to the program.
Hey, Rush, thanks.
It's a pleasure talking to you.
Uh coming from a Democrat.
Well, we're honored, sir.
Thank you.
Well, you know, uh it just goes to show there are Democrats out there that do not believe this rhetoric.
I don't think it's helpful, uh, first to the Democratic calls, and certainly to Americans.
Um, you know, I think people have already forgotten it's only been four years of what's happened to us.
And uh You know, I think that's right.
I I I think that as a Democrats count, they go from eight to twelve.
They forget nine and eleven.
You know, one, two, three, four, five, six, seven, eight, twelve, thirteen, fourteen, fifty.
There's no nine, there's no eleven in the Democrats' uh uh numbers anymore.
I don't know how they could forget it, but it's I think it's it's it's probably required in order to think this way.
Why why do you think Durbin's saying this?
Well, I again I think it's to score political points, and I don't agree with it.
This should not be a political issue.
This should be something that that we're all on the same page.
You know, there were a lot of us that supported Bush and his actions uh militarily and continue to do so.
In fact, I think he hasn't done quite enough.
So um, you know, we're out there, and um, you know, we're not all in the same uh boat.
But it it's political, and I I do think it's very unseemly.
Well, I'm appreciate your call, Todd.
Thank you uh very much.
Let's let's assume he's right that Durbin's trying to score political points.
Just think of that.
I mean that kind of comment is designed to score political points.
You then have to say and ask yourself, well, who?
And when you answer that, what do you learn?
You find out who the Democrats are.
You you find out who they think their constituents happen to be.
And and it's it dovetails with every prediction I've made about the direction they're headed and uh and and what and what they're doing.
You know, the the um it's interesting, mister Mr. Snerdley has sent me a uh a question here says, uh liberals defend the worst of our society.
They want death row abolished, they defend the terrorists who attack us, they want Gitmo closed.
Who won't they defend?
Who are the dregs too low for the Democrats to defend?
Uh good question, Mr. Snerdley, but I would also add something to it.
They are defending the worst of our society and they defend the terrorists who attack us.
Who do they support in the process?
The same people.
Who are they supporting by defending prisoners of war who are essentially members of the enemy, who are they supporting?
Here's uh Sam in Baltimore.
Hi, Sam.
I'm glad you waited with me.
Hey Rush, I'm humbled to speak with you.
Thanks for having me on.
You bet, sir.
Thank you.
I just wanted to add one point uh to the last two callers.
I'm from the south side of Chicago.
I'm living in Baltimore right now, I'm in the military.
And uh Durbin, he's a wingnut, he's crazy, but he's actually doing his job because there's a lot of his constituents who think the same way.
And uh I hear it all the time when I go home.
I I'm a conservative, I like talking politics, and I would say 70% of the people that I get into it when I go home with, they believe the same thing.
And uh they ask my family, how can you stand to have a son in the military and be associated with these kind of things?
So he's actually doing his job.
He's echoing his constituency, it's a shame.
That's right.
That's a great another way of saying it.
He's doing his job, it's just who they are, and this is who he's got to speak to to keep his uh political ratings up.
That's exactly right.
But these idiotic constituents of his who believe this stuff, where are they learning about it?
Where where are they sucking up all this information?
Well, we all know the answer to that.
They'll believe any negative bit of news about this country that they are reported on, that they're seeing that they that they they see.
And this takes me back to a question I asked a couple weeks ago.
I don't understand.
I mean, intellectually, I can understand it politically and maybe emotionally, but intellectually, I don't understand the mindset.
I don't understand the the life circumstances that cause so many Americans to blindly automatically blame their own country regardless of the conflict.
I don't understand it.
You can chalk it up.
Well, there's the the sons and daughters of Democrats, college professors are teaching them this.
Fine, but they have their own ability to think.
Maybe that's it.
Maybe they don't.
Maybe they are the true mind numbed robots.
Jeff in uh Claremont, New Hampshire, you're next on the Rush Limbaugh program.
Hi.
Hi, Rush.
Uh, long time listener.
Uh you were talking they were talking about the 20th hijacker before, uh, you know, being an innocent child and all.
Yeah.
And he doesn't know anything about the world or about the universe or anything around him.
He does know that he hates America.
He doesn't know why.
Uh and now the future terrorists will know why they h hate America, thanks to uh Senator Durbin.
Well, I see your point, but I I think Mr. Duffy is the one who sounds rather childlike, to tell you the truth.
Duffy sounds like the five year old at the zoo.
Hey, mommy, look at the tiger.
Can we go back to Tiger?
Can we do that to Tiger?
He's but this to say that a guy who hates the country is willing to fly airplanes into our buildings has to have been told something about this country, has to have some kind of hate.
He's been told something.
Right.
And he and he knows he knows enough what not to say, too, so he's definitely been told what how to act and in case he ends up in the resort.
Precisely.
But your point about if he's if he's truly ignorant, he'll be educated after listening to Dick Durbin.
And after listening to Harry Reed and after listening to Senator Dodd and all these other Democrats talking about the horrors of the gulags at Abu Ghab and the death camp at Gitmo.
They are certainly learning about America the way liberal Democrats would love for them to learn about America.
Isn't that right?
They're learning what liberal Democrats want them to know about this country.
We'll be back.
A man, a legend, a way of life.
Ralph Peters, a brilliant military man, whose next book is New Glory Expanding America's Global Supremacy has a column today in the New York Post.
Oh, I would like to share with you excerpts.
The demands to shut down our Guantanamo lockup for terrorists have nothing to do with human rights.
They're about punishing America for our power and success.
From our ailing domestic left to overseas America haters, no one really cares about the fate of Mustafa the murderer or Ahmed the assassin.
The lies told about Gitbo are meant to undercut U.S. foreign policy and embarrass America.
The Gitmo controversy is about many things, from jealousy of the United States and outrage that we refuse to fail, to residual anger that we won the Cold War and exploded the left's great fantasy of a dictatorship of the intellectuals.
But the one thing the protests aren't about is human rights.
Except, of course, as a means to slam the United States.
And by the way, I'm sure Mr. Peters means this when he says that part of what's going on at Gitmo, the criticism of Gitmo, is due to residual anger that we won the Cold War and exploded the left's great fantasy of a dictatorship of the intellectuals.
the one thing the protests aren't about is human rights except of course as a means to slam the United States torture?
who and when?
Quran abuse?
I'd rather be a Koran in Gitmo than a Bible in Saudi Arabia.
Illegal detentions?
Suggest a better way to handle hardcore terrorists.
Maltreatment, spare me.
The food the prisoners receive is better than what I had to eat in the army.
Another thing, would it be more humane to incarcerate the declared enemies of civilization in northern Alaska rather than on a Caribbean beach?
Has the Bush administration made mistakes regarding Guantanamo?
You bet the biggest one was attempting to placate the critics.
By launching a new investigation every time a terrorist had a toothache, our government played into the hands of its enemies.
The truth is the terrorists and their defenders have something in common, and it's not courage, which is one quality violent fanatics don't lack.
It's that neither can be appeased.
Any concession only increases their appetites.
The Clinton administration's reluctance to respond to terrorist strikes encouraged al-Qaeda.
If the Bush administration closed uh Gitmo, any alternative holding center would be attacked just as rapidly and dishonestly.
If we put our captives up at the four seasons, we'd be condemned because somebody smelled bacon at breakfast.
You can't negotiate with terrorists, and you can't reason with ideologues, whether they're Islamist fanatics or pathetic old lefties fishing for a cause to give meaning to squandered lives.
Terrorists, French and German neo-Stalinists, and our own democracy hating intelligentsia are not interested in facts.
It's all about the comfort of belief.
Let's get this straight.
Nothing we could do would appease those who feel a need for our country to fail.
We must stop trying to satisfy them.
There's a military maxim that applies to all the nonsense about Gitmo.
Don't let the entire battalion get bogged down by a sniper by attempting to respond to the wild charges leveled by those who offer no solutions themselves, who have no interest in solutions, we've allowed anti-American basket cases from Harvard Yard to the German Parliament to create an issue from nothing.
Oh, and thanks to the mainstream media for assuming that our country is always wrong.
There is a culture of torture in the world.
Blessedly, America isn't part of it.
When a few of our troops make mistakes, they're punished.
Given the magnitude of our task, the unprecedented conditions we face, it's remarkable that our errors have been so few.
What should enrage every decent citizen is that the real torturers, from Zimbabwe to China, from Syria to North Korea, get a pass from the political left.
If terrorists behead defenseless captives on video tape, it's simply an expression of their culture.
But if a handful of U.S. troops play an ugly round of candid camera, why that's a new gulag.
As someone who takes human rights seriously, I'm appalled by the lack of sympathy the left feels toward the victims of any regime other than the Bush administration.
Let's shout it to prisoners everywhere.
If you're not harmed by an American, your suffering doesn't count.
The left's hypocrisy is immeasurable.
The grandchildren of those who defended Stalin are mortified that Saddam Hussein will stand trial.
By taking such irresponsible voices seriously, we grant our critics a strength they otherwise lack and simply help them keep their lives alive.
No matter what our country does, we will never please a global intelligentsia, outrage at all their theories came to nothing.
We can't satisfy Al Qaeda.
We can't please those discontented souls who need to blame the U.S. for their own personal inadequacies.
It's time we stop trying.
What should our nation's leaders say about Guantanamo and our treatment of captured terrorists?
A lot less than they are.
When commons are unavoidable, try this.
We're human.
We make mistakes.
We fix those mistakes and we move on.
Nothing will divert us from our mission of defeating terror and keeping our country safe.
Ralph Peters, the Git Mo Cocktail.
It's in the New York Post today, and we will link to it on our website tonight if you want to wait for them to see it.
Bob in Verona, Wisconsin.
Glad you waited.
Welcome to the program, sir.
Thanks a lot, Rush.
Uh my comment was as I was listening to uh Durbin's comments, it reminded me of the Clinton administration when they were talking about gun control, and Wayne Lapierre uh made that I think a famous comment that the Clinton administration was willing to tolerate a certain amount of death in this country in order to uh get gun control uh into the culture.
And it seems to me that this is not much different.
That uh Dick Durbin and uh Democratic uh leadership have decided that uh or concluded that they can uh tolerate a certain amount of American deaths, civilian deaths, uh Iraqi deaths, uh, in order to um uh as a purchase price, I guess you could say for the reacquisition of their lost political power here.
I I get your point, but I I I I don't I wouldn't say they're tolerating it.
You're being too kind.
Okay, well, um This kind of stuff that they're saying, they're not they're not they're not trying to uh they're not tolerating the abuse.
They're trying to make it worse than it is.
They are trying to say that we are vicious, that we run death camps.
They are already attempting to turn public opinion against the war.
Why?
Obviously, they want public opinion turned against the war.
They don't want people supporting the war on terror or the war in Iraq.
Why?
They must not be for victory.
Why aren't they for victory?
Well, they'd probably that would accrue to the Republicans.
Can't have that.
Here's Wayne Lapierre's comment by this, if you're wondering what he's talking about.
I think this is on uh Stephanopoulos's show.
Uh on uh the the the this week with Stephanopoulos.
I think it was ABC.
I don't know who was hosting it, but it was back during the Clinton administration.
I don't think I've lost track of when Stephanopoulos took over the show.
But uh this this is what Wayne Lapierre had to say.
I do.
I mean, Koki, let me define the level of dishonesty that this man is capable of.
And I've been in this town for twenty years through the political storms.
He could have had a bill last summer that included mandatory safety locks with the sale of every gun, included checks at all gun shows on all gun sales with a 24-hour delay, included juvenile Brady, where violent juveniles would be forever prohibited from owning guns, would even have included Diane Feinstein's import ban on high capacity magazines.
And he killed it all over the issue of a 72-hour wait.
I mean, I've come to believe he needs a certain level of violence in This country, he's willing to accept a certain level of killing to further his political agenda.
And the vice president, too.
I mean, how else you can can you explain this dishonesty we get out of the administration?
That's Wayne Lapierre NRA talking about the Clinton position on gun control.
Uh and that's what the caller was uh referring to, that the liberals today must have the same kind of mindset, willing to tolerate a certain level of defeat in order to get their power back.
Uh defeat of the U.S. military, defeat of the uh of the country.
Oklahoma City, hello, Jeff, you're next on the EIB network.
Hello.
Hey, Rush, Megadethos.
Thank you, sir.
Listening to your show since I was eight years old, and now I'm 21.
So you have grown up with EIB.
Yes, sir, I have.
You know, the comments yesterday from Dick Derman are just, I mean, there's outrageous.
Uh these liberals are constantly patronizing the greatest generation and using scare tactics into getting them to vote for the Democratic Party.
And and and at the same time, they're comparing their grandkids to the evils that we fought in World War II and the Cold War.
Then they criticize Bush for getting 1,700 of them killed.
I mean, they talk about hypocrisy, but you know, Rush, this is the ultimate hypocrisy.
Uh, you're right, these Democrats really will do or say anything to uh gain power and undermine the president.
Well, you're right.
You're you're right on the money out there, Jeff, because this is my point on Monday of this week.
The Democrats out there lauding the greatest generation, buying up Brough's book by the by the crate.
The greatest generation, but when it comes time to learn from the greatest generation, do they?
Nope, we got to go back to the Vietnam War, and we gotta look at the United States through the template of the Vietnam War and assume that the things that they say we did in Vietnam we're now doing in Iraq and on the war on terror, and at Abu Ghab and at Gitmo, rather than taking advice and learning from the experiences of the World War II generation.
They say they're the greatest generation, but that's where it stops.
Emulating them they do not allow.
Back after this, stay with us.
Time for little C I told you so here.
Uh, let's go to audio soundbite number eleven.
This is John Conyers from Michigan uh on C-SPAN's Washington Journal today.
And a caller called and said, please find someone, a prosecutor, arrest somebody in the Bush administration, get him to talk.
Get someone to talk.
We need a deep throat.
We need somebody to take this administration and put them where they belong, in trials in courts where they're not giving the people a chance in Guantanamo.
Please do that today.
Start investigations, arrest people, charge them.
They will talk.
I guarantee they will talk.
What we're starting is an inquiry, and that's how all things start in this government.
I happen to be around when Watergate started.
It starts by asking questions.
And we have a number of questions that have to be resolved.
And uh you can't go into war uh unless you're telling the truth.
And if you go into the to war under false pretenses, as it's beginning to come out that President Bush may have done, uh, we've got a serious problem on our hands.
I predicted this to you people.
This is about the Downing Street memo, and this is about uh Conyers gonna have a hearing today.
No Republicans allowed.
It's not even official.
It'll just be a bunch of libs, the press will cover it, though it's like a big deal.
But you see, it's Watergate.
We gotta look at this presidency through the prison of Watergate.
There's uh been some sort of misleading going on, some crime has occurred here.
President's a crook, and we're gonna find it out.
Well, you start by asking questions.
So this is who they are, and they're being who they are, and letting everybody in the process know.
Here's Paul in Philadelphia.
Welcome, sir, to the EIB network.
Hello.
Hey, Rush, uh, keep up the great work.
Thank you, sir.
I uh I gotta tell you, I believe this is a huge miscalculation.
I have for some reason some of my dearest friends and family are liberal, liberal democrats, and they're telling me they think Durban is lost as marbles, and and whatever fingernails we're pulling out, we should take twice as many out of these guys down in Gitmo.
I mean, this is it's amazing that they think I I I think because the same bunch of people respond to move on.org, you know, email and and uh petitions, they think there's a lot of people who believe this, and and I think they're making a huge mistake because people are not gonna stand for this liberal democrat, conservative republican.
Uh Everybody I know thinks and and there's unfortunately a lot of liberals in that crowd.
I think uh they uh they're all saying the same thing.
We're whatever we're doing at Gitmo, we've got to do twice as much.
Yeah, I think that's an excellent point.
I I actually do.
I I I I don't know how many liberals are out there uh saying what your liberal friends are, but uh I do th it's obviously some, and I think the point that you made that people like Durbin hear from these wacko cook lib websites and think that it represents millions of people, and they think they have to respond to it.
But I also look, let's uh let's say that you're right about it, Paul.
Let's say that they think that this is their constituent base, and they've got a free and they got a feed off of it, and they've got to respond to it, keep their money coming in and whatever.
At what point do we then ask Durbin, do you really believe this?
Is this this just political?
Because it it's even worse if it's political.
If you don't believe this, it's even worse.
If you're willing to say these kinds of things about your country and you don't believe it, it's even worse, and it may be a small margin of difference, but it's even worse if you're willing to lie about this country as opposed to telling us what you think is the truth about it.
If if if what you really believe is that we're running death camps and that we're no different than Paul Pot and no different than the gulags, and no different than the Nazis in the way they hand ran their prisons, if you really believe that, okay, fine.
That's what you really believe, and we can measure it, and we can base that, uh, or use that to base our judgments and uh other things on you.
But if you don't believe it, and you're just saying it to satisfy the wackos in your party who do believe it, it could arguably be even worse.
If you're willing to put your own country at this degree of risk with our enemies, simply to satisfy the kooks that make up the base of the Democratic Party today, that is arguably worse.
Now the punk has weighed in not on Durban, but how do you tell them apart?
Howard Dean.
Terry McAuliffe, the former Democratic National Committee chairman, criticized Dean yesterday, saying that he should keep uh or stop launching personal attacks on Republicans and always keep it to the issues.
Asked what advice that he had for Dean McCaula told Tony Snow, I just think that sometimes you have to be obviously careful about how you say things.
I was one of the most partisan chairmen ever, but you know what?
I never made it personal.
It didn't make it personal.
The punk never made it personal.
He didn't make it personal.
He didn't say personal things about Bush.
Bush was a wall, Bush was the that wasn't personal.
Anyway, McCulliff said that his replacement was wrong to boycott the Fox News channel, which Dean described on Monday as a propaganda outlet for the GOP.
He said we ought to put people on Fox every day, McCallov said.
Well, you got a bunch of them working there.
Fox just hired Wesley Clark as a commentator.
Did you know that?
Yes.
General Clark Ashley Wilkes.
I would love to see Fox just once put up on their put up their graphic Ashley Wilkes instead of Wesley Clark.
Just once.
Give me a heads up so I can be the one to see it.
Make it a mistake.
I'll pay the fine for whoever does it.
Anyway, he said, you know, there are certain people in Democratic Party who say, oh, Fox is right wing, blah, blah, blah.
My point is that there are a lot of listeners that you have right now, Tony, who have an open mind who may consider voting for the Democrats, but if we're not on the air and on television putting our plan out there, then you're seeding the entire playing field.
And the punks right about that, except they're not putting a plan out there.
They are all over TV, but they don't put a plan out there.
Anyone know what their plan is on Social Security?
Anybody know what their plan is in the war on terror?
Anybody know what the Democrats' plan for national security is?
Does anybody know what the Democrats' plan on the economy is or on gas prices?
Anyone know?
Anybody know what they're planning?
They don't have a plan.
They don't have diddly squat.
Not only them one plan, they don't have any plans.
Because that's not what they're about.
They're totally about obstructing everything Bush tries to get done so that after eight years, they'll be able to say it never happened.
We'll be back after this.
Don't go away.
I have a list of the top contributors to Dick Durbin.
And they are anywhere from uh 44,250 down to 14,000.
Kirkland Ellis, McDermott, Will and Emery, the state of Illinois, AMR Corporation, which I think is American Airlines, Altimer and Gray, Clifford Law Offices, the Chicago Board of Trade, United Airlines, a Laborers Union, Northern Trust, Walgreen Company, Archer Daniels Midland.
All these people gave at least $14,000, some of them up to as high as $44,000.
And I just wonder if all these contributors agree that our soldiers and prison guards are Nazis and like Pol Pot and may as well be running a Soviet-style gulag.
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