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March 12, 2024 - RadixJournal - Richard Spencer
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In the Eye of the Beholder

This is a free preview of a paid episode. To hear more, visit radixjournal.substack.comFriend-of-the-Show Candace Owens joins us to drop the BOMBSHELL of the century. Brigitte Macron is now officially the latest in a long line of women that conservatives suspect of being a secret tranny. No, Candace wasn’t actually a guest, but in all seriousness, this is an exciting Tuesday call that calls attention to oth…

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Oh, Brigitte Gate.
No, what's happening with Brigitte Gate?
Supposedly, there's no evidence that Brigitte Macron existed before she was 30 years old.
And supposedly, she transitioned at the age of 30 and was previously Jean-Luc.
Are you serious?
Candace Owens has a tweet about it right now.
Of course she does.
Okay, so I saw someone tweet about this, and they were showing her face and saying, oh, she looks like a man.
One thing that I've noticed, I mean, this has been like a long-term trend on social media, is this like weird speculation about liberals, about they're really...
men and it's like everyone's a man, like Taylor Swift's a man, like Jennifer Aniston's a man.
It just becomes bizarre.
Oh, my God.
Okay. Yeah,
I remember seeing this stuff about, this was like early QAnon theorizing in 2010 or so, involving Michelle Obama.
Yeah, being a man.
And I think the whole, anyway, it seems to be a misunderstanding of like sexual dimorphism in Africans.
But anyway, let's go.
This is crazy.
I'm talking crazy, crazy, crazy, crazy, crazy.
Stop everything.
Pay attention.
If you're driving, pull over.
Just kidding.
You don't have to pull over.
You can keep driving, but you just prepare yourself for what is happening right now in France.
So let me give you guys the background.
Emmanuel Macron is the president of France.
He is married to Brigitte Macron, okay?
Her love story has always been extremely weird and extremely creepy.
She is 70 years old, allegedly, and he is just 46 years old.
So already right there, you have a 24-year age gap between them.
And at the very least, just looking into their love story, you're looking at what might be, because they changed the age throughout the years, a story of pedophilia.
I'll tell you what their official narrative has been.
The official narrative is that when Emmanuel was just 15 years old, he was a drama student at a school.
And his teacher was Brigitte.
And while he was very young, they somehow managed to fall in love.
That would have made Brigitte way too old to be falling in love with.
You know, just as an aside, to use the word pedophilia, particularly in the context of France, to describe a relationship between a teacher and a 15-year-old, I think is a bit much.
I don't know.
It's a bit moralizing on her part.
I mean, look, I obviously...
I think that an adult...
Let's switch the genders.
An adult male who seduces a 15-year-old or a 16-year-old or even an 18-year-old certainly is his class, his student or something.
Absolute. That is a no-go jail.
But then to equate it with child molesters or something, it is just simply wrong.
It's a different thing.
Men and women.
Don't play by the same rules when it comes to sex, and this is just another example of that.
Exactly. Yeah, like Trump and Melania, they have the same age gap, but nobody really complains about that.
Right. Because honestly, they probably don't need to.
She's an adult.
Yeah. And again, I would also say that, again, let's go to the Brigitte Macron gender swap.
You see this a lot.
It happens more often than you would imagine.
But these 25-year-old girls who become teachers and they have sex with their 16-year-old student.
Again, obviously, firing offense to say the least.
And probably some jail time should be in there.
You're making school a...
You're disrupting the whole concept of school.
Teaching and mentorship.
You're really subverting that in a very bad way.
That being said, I'm sorry.
The notion that that 15-year-old boy is traumatized for life, give me a break.
I mean, just come on.
Anyway, I won't say any more.
It's just the fact that we're just calling all of this pedophilia, it just seems wrong.
They're separate terms for separate things.
And to associate that with some, like, wicked person who is abusing children or, I mean, I don't know.
It's just, I don't know.
I won't dwell on this.
Like, where was she when I was in high school, right?
Yeah, exactly.
You're not going to be traumatized.
Now, obviously, she should be punished legally for that.
Needless to say, fired.
Sure, and I probably wouldn't marry her.
She's not a monster.
Yeah, like these people who absolutely abuse, traumatize, and physically harm children.
Those are fucking monsters.
That 25-year-old teacher is, I don't know what to describe her, a slut.
There are other words that we have in the English language.
Yeah, but nevertheless, it does point to a certain kind of ubiquitous decadence in the culture, right?
It is bizarre how common it is.
In Florida, you have all these women that are sleeping with their students, right?
So it does speak to some kind of general decadence.
Yeah, I mean, it's a rabbi raping a child, doubtlessly.
That's obviously true.
But it's nevertheless, it's a little sort of unsettling.
There's something wrong with the society, essentially.
Yeah, I would agree with that.
I mean, look.
I mean, look, it is like a sort of 1980s music video fantasy.
I forget where you sleep with the teacher.
Hot for teacher.
Hot for teacher, yeah.
And so everyone can understand it from a kind of hot-blooded American sort of bacchanal perspective of like, yeah, hot teacher.
And there's something healthy there, obviously.
Yeah, there is.
In fact, we look back to those days and say, wow, that's relatively healthy, right?
When we look at the days today, which are relatively sexless and porn-saturated to the point of sexlessness, essentially.
Nevertheless, it does point to a problem.
It points to a symptom that we could say is a relatively mild symptom, right?
It's not the worst thing that's occurring today.
But it is, nevertheless, very odd.
Women being that sort of sexually aggressive is another thing that's sort of interesting about it, right?
Yeah, well, that's what I was about to say.
If you look into some of these stories, like if you go down to paragraph three of some of these stories from Florida, Texas, or whatever this is happening, You'll see that she was texting him and that they started sharing Snapchats.
I think there's also something to the fact of a lot of these girls who are 25, they're almost contemporaries with a 15-year-old.
And so they're like, oh yeah, what's your handle on Snapchat?
Or whatever.
And it's like, no, no, no.
That's... You know, you can obviously be friendly with students.
A lot of my teachers were very, they were kind of fun and friendly.
But, like, you're sexting each other?
I mean, like, what?
Well, in some cases, you're three years removed from wanting to date the high school or whatever.
Like, they're three years away from that mentality.
So they're still in that mindset, right?
And now they're a teacher at a college, or rather at a high school.
So, I mean, four years, I guess, would be the appropriate duration.
But college has some similarity to high school.
There's athletes and so forth, and there's a social hierarchy.
It's less, depending on how large the school is, if it's a large school, that's less salient.
People find their little groups and whatever.
Smaller schools, it's probably more similar.
I didn't go to a small school, but it's probably more similar to high school in a lot of ways.
So they're still kind of in that mindset as these young teachers.
So it does seem to naturally follow that they're going to be attracted to the popular kids at high school, right?
Yeah. I guess it's kind of a cliche, but I think part of it is sort of the porn culture as well.
So there's something forbidden about it, right?
And a woman showing sexual aggression and so forth.
Porn provides a lot of models for that, right?
So I think that that could be part of it.
This also says something about the right-wing media ecosystem, where they're so humorless on this issue, and they're so quick to condemn and oversimplify it as pedophilia, which technically it might be, but they just want to see pedophiles everywhere.
and Chinese everywhere.
They just fixated on those two things.
It's an unhealthy fascination, no doubt.
All right, let's keep going.
I want to hear.
...or 14-year-old, depending on which article you're reading.
But yes, apparently she was just so moved from his depth, this little boy's depth, and the poetry and the way that he would write, that they fell in love, so much so that the now first lady left her then-husband, despite the fact that they had three kids.
Okay? So that's the background story.
Nobody cares.
Doesn't matter.
It happened so long ago.
Now she's the first lady.
We should celebrate her.
Uh, no.
Some major update now happening.
Major, major updates.
Let me tell you about how I happened upon this story.
There was just an article that was published in the Daily Mail.
Here is the headline.
The proof France's first lady wasn't born a man.
What? I was going, what?
So I, of course, instantly read it, because what a bizarre thing that you're even needing to present proof that Brigitte Macron was not born a man.
And embedded within the article, they showed two photos, and I'm going to show you right now.
This is the first photo.
This is allegedly Brigitte Macron when she was a little girl sitting on her mom's lap.
But when I saw this photo, the first thing I noticed was that the person on the far left, the boy, that actually looks like Brigitte Macron.
I'm taking you guys through my thought process.
I saw this and I was like, it actually looks like she might actually be the guy.
Maybe she's a dead ringer for her brother.
But I don't see any resemblance there with the little girl.
Let me show the second photo debunking.
This is just ridiculous.
There is actually a really remarkable resemblance between my nephews and my daughter when they're one and a half or something.
This is just a...
Candace is just, I think this is actually all absurd.
This is probably just Kremlin propaganda, to be frank.
I already got skeptical, but let me just put that aside and hear her out.
Another young photo, allegedly, of Brigitte Macron.
What I thought when I looked at this photo, that this looks way too new to be a photo of a 70-year-old when they were a child.
Now again, these are my thought processes.
When I then read the article, there was no debunking whatsoever.
They just were calling people that were saying otherwise, far-right, you know, all the typical buzzwords, far-right, conspiracy theorists, racist, sexist, it's homophobic, it's anti-Semitism.
Just the thing that we are all now able to immediately move through, these names don't mean anything anymore.
It's interesting she said that, actually, because she's now, she's kind of like equating...
Calling someone far right or a racist, calling them anti-Semitic.
I don't think previous conservatives would have done that.
Oh, definitely not.
This makes me want to look further into the alleged theory.
Go ahead.
Oh, I was just going to say, like, the title of this, Insane, this is the biggest political scandal in human history.
I don't know.
I can think of some others.
Yeah, you know, there's a huge problem here, because it's sort of a kind of exaggerated problem of what...
Red Ice Hat, for example.
Like, the production values of Daily Wire are very professional, but there's still lack of quality control.
They just let the schizos get on there.
Because, honestly, some of the stuff Candace Owens has done, I think, is sort of brave and, like, cool.
But she doesn't have a producer saying, okay, this is bad shit.
This is bad shit.
This is legit.
Yeah, right.
And that's the problem with a lot of these demagogues.
And I would include, for example, Nick Fuentes.
As much as we may have a kind of affection for Nick Fuentes, he could really benefit for a producer who's saying, okay, this is great stuff.
This is great.
Don't go there.
That's bullshit.
You know what I mean?
Yeah, it's content control.
It's being an editor.
Yeah. And I think just the credibility of suffering here is the problem.
There needs to be kind of more nuance, and then they can start persuading intelligent people.
Yeah, of course, I understand.
They're not going to do it.
No, I don't think they will, but maybe the next evolution of them will do.
Because I think what I'm seeing is the problem is that, again, you have these content creators who are basically kind of, I mean, Candace Owen is like off the leash, right?
In some ways, we love it because we're like, oh, okay, great.
Yeah, she's going after Rabbi Schmule or whatever, yeah.
But on another level, it's just like, it's just half the shit she's saying is just bullshit or is just invented or fabricated.
Yeah, right, but that's...
It gives the credibility of the good stuff that she's doing.
Yeah, but that's how these people make their clicks, you know?
Candace Owens, Crowder, Tim Pool, they just like make...
Look, they still can get their clicks.
They still can get their clicks is what I'm saying.
They just need quality control and I think they're lacking it.
I agree with Alberto on this.
I think...
What I've seen over the past five years is this QAnon-adjacent quality to mainstream conservatives, where they often will use the same buzzwords.
They're not quite QAnon, but they might as well be, in effect.
Someone even like Sean Hannity is kind of outmoded at this point.
So, I mean, I obviously agree with what Mark's saying.
Like, we need quality control.
I understand everybody as well.
I understand your point.
Right? So, yeah, there is this sort of populist, there's this kind of love of conspiracy theories that's popular, and even aliens, and all this kinds of shit, where people are able to kind of clickbait that.
Yeah, I mean, this is just how these people make their living.
What I'm describing is the kind of experiment that has not yet occurred, right?
So, in other words, Daily Wire has shown that they have the technical proficiency to create high-end productions, right?
Evidently. So they can show professionalism in the technical realm and in the marketing realm and so forth.
But in terms of the content control, content generation and control, they've shown themselves lacking.
So honestly, and you're right, you're right.
A lot of this stupid shit is popular.
But again, the experiment that I'm describing has yet to be run.
And I think that if you just took some of the talent they have now, even Candace Owens, you just had a producer basically rein her in, sort out the bullshit, and sharpen her legitimate arguments,
then the thing would just be next level.
You know what I'm saying?
In any case.
Yeah. Shale oil billionaire fundamentalist wackos from Texas fund this whole thing.
At some point, someone should talk to them.
I think some of these people are just lost.
You can bring a horse to water, as they say.
I get that, but if they have so much money, they could have another little brand and just experiment with something that's a little more sober.
Not something that's radical.
I obviously agree with what you're saying, but the types of people who do this, at the end of the day, they're like trumped up white trash.
I have to be brutally frank.
Is this your investor appeal?
No, it is my investor appeal because I separate yourself from the jumped up white trash.
Yeah, like separate yourself.
Do something actually worthwhile.
I don't think we can appeal to these folks.
But anyway, let's keep watching.
And I did.
And holy smokes.
So the quote-unquote conspiracy theory is actually a three-year thorough investigation that was conducted by journalists that were working with genealogists.
It was published in six issues.
I'm sorry, my French is not that good, but yes, they published six issues unpacking what they had discovered after a three-year investigation.
And here is what they are saying, right?
So again, I'm going to say allegedly, but this is what they have published.
Their theory is that the first lady, Brigitte Macron, was actually born Jean-Michel.
So Brigitte is actually John Michael.
John Michael lived as a man for 30 years.
Fathered five children, okay?
And then transitioned at the age of 30 to become Brigitte.
Okay, now I'm just going to show you this before and after photo, just right here.
They actually used, as a part of their investigation, Chinese software.
And this is a side-by-side.
It is such a dead ringer.
It's crazy to me.
That you would not say that these two individuals look alike.
This is potentially the same individual age.
So on the left, what I'm showing you is John Michael.
On the right is a photo of the first lady, okay?
Now, I will tell you why this has legs and why I'm going to encourage you to read the very long document that I read, which we will include in the link in bio.
The first obvious thing, the first obvious reason that I am very much believing what they have published It's because the first lady is simply unable to produce any photos of herself throughout the first 30 years of her life.
Guys, how easy to debunk this.
If you say, Candace, no, actually, you lived as a man for 30 years.
I lived for 30 years.
I'm going to show you every photo of every year that I've lived.
Here's me in college, right?
Here's me while I was pregnant with my children.
Here's me and my husband on our wedding day.
There would be so many photos that Brigitte...
Should have at her disposal if this is false.
They didn't have Instagram in the 40s and 50s.
Nope, they're just calling everybody wrong and backwards and transphobic.
Just produce the photos.
Instead, the only photos they have produced that are circling in the media are the photos that I just showed you.
And as I said, the first photo, she looks more like the John Michael, who she claims is actually her brother, who she won't just present to the public.
If that is, in fact, your brother.
Please just go on a walk with him so we can capture it and say, ah, no, she just happens to look like her brother.
Here's John Michael.
No, John Michael has disappeared.
The genealogist just can't find a single trace of John Michael since Brigitte came into the public space at the age of 30. So John Michael existed for 30 years, according to the genealogist, okay?
And then John Michael stops existing and Brigitte exists.
But Brigitte doesn't exist for the first 30 years, okay?
The second photo, the one that I said to you looked a little too recent for an alleged 70-year-old.
Well, yeah, they were able to debunk that.
That's actually a photo of her daughter.
Her daughter, Trephane.
You can see now side by side.
Of course, that is her daughter.
It's a dead ringer for her daughter.
So why would you colorize a photo and make it black and white and try to pass it as yourself?
When it is, in fact, your daughter.
I'm sure somebody will say, well, it didn't come directly from the First Lady.
It is very obvious that they are trying to dissuade the narrative by producing these two photos, which are easily debunked.
How is that debunked?
It just looks a lot like her daughter?
Yeah, it's called, like, you look like your children.
Did they debunk that, like, forensically?
Or are they just saying this looks like her daughter?
This strikes me.
I am...
Extremely skeptical of this.
No, she's just saying, oh, this looks like her daughter.
Oh, we debunked it.
And by the way, all these photos that we have seen, oh, well, they're fake, too, for some reason.
And yeah, like you said, people just didn't have as many photos back, you know.
Yeah, like I've seen photos of my...
Yeah, it was kind of an event when you took a photograph.
I mean, my...
My mother, she was alive.
I think my parents were married in 1969 or 1968.
I can't quite remember.
But yeah, she was alive in the 50s.
It was just kind of different.
This is just bizarre.
And again, if you want to forensically debunk that photograph, but just saying that it's a dead ringer, give me a break.
As I've said, there are these kind of remarkable things.
I've noticed it like my...
One of my nephews, so my sister's son, when you see photos of him and then of my daughter, it's like, oh, wow, look, there's such a striking resemblance.
It's a dead ringer.
It's not now, obviously, as they've grown.
But that's just a completely ridiculous argument.
Anyway. Say major red flags.
Rather than just producing what should be ample evidence of your existence for the first 30 years of your life, they're suing.
Yes, the first lady actually sued two of the journalists that were involved in producing the story.
Brigitte Macron, here's a headline from The Telegraph, Brigitte Macron sues women who claimed that she is transgender.
Something to note is what exactly Brigitte is suing for.
She's suing them for violation of privacy.
So, yeah, I don't know how it is in France, but this is a difference between the UK and the United States.
Yeah, definitely.
Yeah, people will sue you for libel and slander in the UK.
It doesn't happen in the United States.
So I think that's why Candace Owens is so surprised that someone would do this, right?
Right. What is her position on Michelle Obama.
Wasn't that a conspiracy theory?
This is sort of like an interesting and strange vein of conspiracy theory, where they think that some guy, some woman is really a man, and vice versa.
Yes, I have seen this on Twitter, and if you ever click on one of these tweets, you'll get served more of the same for the next month.
You have to actively say, please stop.
I'm not interested.
There is a cottage industry of, like, they'll show some photo of Taylor Swift, like, performing on stage, and she'll, like, turn around and her crotch area will, like, kind of vaguely look like there's a penis there,
but there's just, you know, plausible explanations, like...
She's turning, and it kind of has that, or there's a microphone.
I don't know.
There's so many...
It's like a fold in the fabric or something like that.
Exactly. That's the most plausible explanation.
And they're like, look at this.
What do you see here?
It's just...
I think a lot of these people...
We've had social media-induced schizophrenia, basically.
That's affecting millions of people.
Yeah, and some people then, and maybe this is also its own sort of form of schizophrenia, but people will look at Candace Owens and be like, oh yeah, well she was doing some good anti-Zionist stuff, and now she's coming up with these sort of strange conspiracy theories that are baseless and crazy.
Maybe she's false opposition.
She's deliberately developed to make the kind of anti-Zionist position seem schizophrenic, right?
Yeah. Right.
You know, she may as well be talking about UFOs now, and therefore anti-Zionism will be connected to UFOology and so forth, right?
But again, that might be its own sort of schizophrenia.
I mean, the simpler explanation might be this chick is just kind of generally batshit, but gets, you know, a broken clock is correct twice a day, right?
In any case.
Doesn't Candace kind of look like pretty kind of man-ish to you?
Just look at the screen right now.
Yeah, look at that jawline.
I mean, I'm sorry.
I genuinely don't think she's a man, but it's kind of like, maybe you should take a look at yourself in the mirror there.
We could start speculating.
The burden of proof is on Candice.
She has to prove to me that she is not, in fact, a man.
Where are the pictures of her as a child?
The transsexual...
As he or she strikes you, right?
Yes, exactly.
She's wearing a turtleneck, hiding the Adam's apple.
Yeah, exactly.
Why are you wearing that turtleneck?
One of the funniest scenes in 90s comedy was the Austin Powers scene where he's with Basil Exposition, which is kind of...
He's like, welcome, Austin.
I'd like to introduce you to my mother.
He's like, that's not your mother.
It's a man, man.
He's punching.
I don't know.
Pretty hilarious scene.
I guess you had to be there.
Okay, we'll continue.
Rights, plus illicit use of her image.
What does that mean?
That doesn't mean anything.
Like, why don't you say you completely lied and I can prove it and I'm going to ruin your entire lives?
Which you would just have to show, again, pictures of your first 30 years of life.
But no, this is really just a tactic to pretend as if these journalists didn't produce concrete proof to substantiate their claims.
Now, the two journalists being sued, by the way, are Amandine Roy and Natasha Ray, and they were eventually punished with symbolic fines for, I guess, invading the privacy of the First Lady.
It's going to get even crazier, though, because journalists that worked on this case were also threatened.
They sent the police to threaten them while they were conducting research.
Natasha Ray, the woman that was...
Punished with a symbolic fine.
As she was conducting research, she reached out to somebody to ask some questions about the First Lady's upbringing, the first 30 years of the First Lady's life.
And then what happened as she was examining these inconsistencies in the story was the police burst into her home on July 13, 2021.
They then took her into custody without being summoned.
On the pretext of a complaint that was filed by one of the individuals that she had reached out to, Catherine Audoy.
She was then released after five hours of tough interrogation with a lesson.
And you shouldn't be doing this.
They tried to humiliate her.
They tried to threaten her.
And of course, this only made the public even more interested in the story.
She was also asked to produce a list of journalists with whom she had been in contact with.
The police also seized her phone.
That is not normal.
None of this should be happening in a story that, again, would be so easy to debug.
They similarly arrested a man named Eric Verhey, another journalist working on the story.
Similarly, had no charges.
They just wanted to question him.
I don't know, guys.
You tell me, what are you thinking?
If you're alleging that somebody was a man for the first 30 years of their life, why go through these efforts when you could just show photos?
But of course, obviously, to tell a lie this big, you'd have to have a very good memory.
This is actually something that Judge Judy used to say.
He used to love watching Judge Judy.
Okay, I'll just throw this out there.
I don't think this is necessarily the most plausible explanation.
First off, the police do question you sometimes.
You can get questioned by the police or the FBI.
You're not under arrest.
Maybe you shouldn't do it, because anything you say can be held against you, all that stuff.
But that happens.
And it doesn't...
I don't know.
Might they be investigating Russian influence on promoting a story like this?
Just throw it out there.
I was young with my grandma, and she used to say, you know, if you don't lie, you don't have to have a good memory.
But if you lie, you've got to have a very good memory.
And what keeps happening throughout the years of her being the First Lady, so since that's...
Richard, that's actually a great aphorism, though.
Yeah. That is actually a great aphorism.
If you lie, you have a great memory.
Yeah. And we can think of a kind of important example of that.
And the first lady tells a story about herself in her childhood.
The math doesn't quite math, right?
For example, she recalled living alone in the United States during Neil Armstrong's moon landing in 1969.
The only problem is that she would have been just 16 years old.
What? 16-year-old living alone in the United States?
But if the theory is true...
That she's actually Jean-Michel, who is eight years older, which would make the First Lady 78 years old today.
And that story would make perfect sense because, of course, you could live alone when you are 24 years old in the United States.
Again, there are multiple examples of the First Lady just being too young in terms of the past stories that she keeps telling.
Then there is the remarkably strange case of Brigitte's alleged ex-husband.
So just to remind you, Doug, your memory, the story goes, she was married, right?
And at the age of 40 years old, she fell in love so much so that she left her husband because she just loved this 16-year-old or 15-year-old or 14-year-old drama student so much.
She left her husband and her three kids to be with him, okay?
So it should be pretty easy to find her ex-husband But it turns out that they can't find that man.
Yeah, back when Emmanuel Macron was elected president, journalists all over the world, international journalists, were obviously prying into his background and her background, and they just could not find this man.
Allegedly, his name is André Louis-Auxierre, and internationally, they just couldn't locate him.
He is a banker, or was a banker, because now they say he died, just suddenly died.
But he was allegedly a banker, so it's very weird that there wouldn't be a trail for journalists to find him.
In 2017, during the presidential election, they tried to interview him, and it was all of their attempts in vain.
In fact, in an article that was published in French magazine, Gala magazine, they titled the article, As If He Had Never Existed.
That is in the year that he became president.
They were just like, hmm, this other guy doesn't really seem to exist.
It also seems to be the case that every time the press is trying to assist the narrative that he did exist, they keep accidentally showing photos of other men.
For example, in 2018, France 3 TV produced a movie entitled Brigitte Macron, Un Romane Francais.
And they showed this photo very quickly.
Featuring Brigitte and her first husband, André-Louis-Auxierre.
But it turns out that upon inspection, that actually isn't him.
It's actually an old faculty photo because it has been confirmed that Brigitte was a teacher.
Obviously, that's how she fell in love with young student Emmanuel.
And here is the full photo of the faculty.
Oopsies! We got it wrong again.
Guys, when I tell you that there is so much proof, Yeah,
I mean, again, something mysterious doesn't imply this claim that she's transgender, you know?
I mean, I don't know what's going on with her first husband.
Interesting question.
Well, let's accept the premise, though, that Macron's wife is a man.
It's pretty gross.
It's crazy.
Does Macron know?
Is he the real victim?
But also, what ultimately is the geopolitical significance of it?
The issues with France are not that Macron's wife is really a man.
Those are not the issues with France.
Those are not the issues that Europe are struggling with, right?
I mean, granted, it would be grotesque and shocking and say things about Macron, and it would probably darken my opinion of Macron.
But my opinion of Macron right now, and I view him politically, is mixed anyways, right?
But I'm critical of him.
I don't care that the guy's...
It's already sort of unusual if the guy's wife was so much older than him, right?
Well, yeah, it just seems coincidental.
Like you said, the politics is what really matters of it.
And this comes out like a day or two after Macron's made signals that he might enter into the war in Ukraine.
He might send material support to Ukraine.
Look, Macron made some bold statements where he basically said sending troops into Ukraine.
And I guess in this case he was...
Talking about French troops and not necessarily bringing NATO, you know, enacting the all-for-one clause of NATO.
I presume that, but I mean, it was a vague yet quite bold statement saying that we should consider this, not take it off the table.
And he actually delayed a meeting recently, I saw.
Due to these bold statements.
Now, when Macron was running against Jean-Marie Le Pen, I don't know if you guys remember the so-called Macron leaks, but there was forensic analysis done, I believe, it was done by a third party,
but I believe it was published by the Southern Property Law Center.
Now, we can have our opinions about them, or opinions about them particularly in the past, but I don't...
I doubt, actually, their analysis.
And the first person to use the hashtag MaconLeaks on Twitter was Jack Sobiak.
This is someone I've mentioned, and I am...
Extremely skeptical of this person.
He has this background in military intelligence.
He's a naval intelligence, in fact.
A lot of people have said he was run out of there or something.
Very odd person.
Someone who came out of the woodwork and was very, very interested in me in 2016 and talking to me and all that kind of stuff.
And then turned his heels and denounced me the next moment.
I am highly skeptical of him.
I've seen a video.
I could go find it.
But Candace was doing an earlier version of a show that she has on The Daily Wire called Candace.
It was almost like she was Oprah and she had a studio audience.
It was that type of style.
And she had him on.
And this was in 2022.
Right following the Ukraine invasion.
And she had him on as her GeoPaul expert.
And he was doing all the lines.
Ukraine isn't a real country.
It's just Russia.
Why do we care?
If we do care, we could start World War III.
Do you want to nuke the world over Ukraine?
All of the talking points were uttered.
And I just found it...
Or also, my favorite is, you know, there's this huge Nazi problem in Ukraine, and well, you know, someone's got to do something about it, all these Nazis running around.
You know, again, all of these things have little kernels of truth.
They might even be kind of like 30% correct or whatever, but they're propaganda.
And he was doing that with Candace, and kind of whispering in her ear is my thought.
So to go back to Macron leaks, Jack Posobiec claimed that he was on 4chan randomly and he saw this leak of Macron's emails.
So it was just random.
Now, there's also forensic evidence that the person who put that link on 4chan was either Weave himself or connected to Weave.
Now, look.
I can't verify all this forensic stuff.
I've forgotten my password, in fact.
I'm not quite that bad, but I certainly don't do digital forensics.
But I'm just going with them on this.
I don't think they're lying, and it just makes a lot of sense that Weave would be involved in this.
So they hacked Macron's email, and lo and behold, they put forth all these...
Emails about sex, toys, and wife-swapping, whatever.
There was nothing even that surprising for France, I guess.
But it was just throwing shit up against the wall to see if it can stick.
And again, Le Pen, etc., the far-right populists are at the very least highly sympathetic.
Pathetic towards Russia.
And at the very most, we can talk about Orban today, they just want to defund the war immediately.
So they're on Russia's side, and they might very well benefit from this.
You remember in Tucker's unbearable interview with Vladimir Putin, there was this weird situation where he said, where Vladimir Putin mentioned that Hungary has some claims in Ukraine.
Tucker asked him, well, would Hungary get some of these territories?
And he was like, oh, I don't know.
I never talked about this book.
It's just an odd moment.
And today, or yesterday, it was revealed that when Orban visited Mar-a-Lago, he was talking about Trump's I think?
basically to totally defund Ukraine so that Ukraine would just have to capitulate out of the necessity of surviving.
And that was his secret plan to end the war, basically.
Now, I think a lot of the world leaders are kind of reacting to this.
And Europe might be stepping up.
Macron might be making some bold statements.
So there's some weird tensions.
And all of, you
The fact that this might have been happening, the research might have been going on in 2021 and 2022, and I'll even grant, just for the sake of argument, that there's some kind of mystery involved of like, who is she?
Where's her husband?
Okay, I don't know.
But the fact that this is all coming right now, and the fact that it presses the hottest hot button of these conservatives, which is chicks with dicks, basically, I don't know.
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