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This is Rudy Giuliani, and this is the Rudy Giuliani Show on Lindel Television Network.
And behind me is the Puzzle Palace, otherwise known as Congress.
But in fact, I'm in Palm Beach, Florida, which is the second White House, correct?
Right?
I would say that's right.
And I have come up with a new concept for my show because of the president.
Last night, I got the show already.
We had to change it at the end.
This time, same thing.
It happens to me all the time.
I've tried to tell him not to do this to me, but he doesn't listen to me.
He thinks world affairs and national security is more important.
And so I've decided we're going to go on a delay, Ted.
We're going to have like a 10-minute delay so we can change anything I say.
If we end up bombing Iran, you know, I mean, at any time, but in any event, if any event, if you can figure out what we're doing, you're good.
I don't even think a leak would do any good here because there's a leak one way, there's a leak another.
There's a leak that we want peace.
And the president very much wants peace.
There's a whole headline in the Wall Street Journal saying the president wants peace.
There's the headline in the post saying the president's going to give him hell and hit him in a way that they've never been hit before.
Both of those are out there.
Both of those are possible.
Both of those create for the media an opportunity to say the president doesn't have a plan.
The president doesn't know what he's doing.
Isn't that the way he's supposed to fight a war?
Do you think that President Grant would announce two days before, so President Lee could read it in the Richmond, whatever paper they have in Richmond, President Grant intends to attack five miles from where he's going to begin his attack,
five miles from where the left flank of Lee's largest army.
And then over the next two days, he's going to do evasive maneuvers, hoping to fool them.
Well, this is the way we were conducting wars when we started embedding the press.
We were conducting wars for CNN.
This is the way you conduct a war.
This is the way we conducted the Second World War.
We stole their signals.
We created signals of our own.
We sent them phony signals that they thought they were signaling each other, the Germans did, and we would put them into traps.
Eventually, we got caught with that.
Hitler found out.
So Hitler changed his signals.
And Hitler came the closest to winning the war on what would have been a brilliant military maneuver had it worked.
While we were, well, we were plowing through France and we got to Paris.
Eisenhower announced we will be in Berlin by Christmas.
This was the millisecond.
By Christmas, we were engaged at the border of France and Germany at a place called the Bulge.
We lost more soldiers in the Bulge, Americans, than the entire rest of the war, including the Pacific.
We were stopped there for three months.
There was serious concern that we might have to do some kind of, if not ceasefire, pull back a little and regroup.
We didn't get there by Christmas.
We were at the Bulge at Christmas.
But you know who got there right after Christmas?
One of the greatest generals in American history is the left wing has demeaned and defamed, and that was George Patton.
George Patton had been left out of the D-Day invasion because Marshall and Roosevelt didn't like him.
Eisenhower wanted him.
Eisenhower knew that Patton was his best general.
Maybe his craziest, but his best.
Well, he calls up Patton.
He says, George, I need you to get to Paris as soon as possible because we ain't getting there and we got to get there before the Russians.
He says, okay, general.
Four days later, he calls up from Paris.
We're in Paris.
We got the whole, I mean, we're in Berlin.
We got the whole place.
And then he sat there for two months waiting for the Russians, going crazy.
He wanted to take the whole place.
He wanted to go into Poland and keep Russia out of Poland.
But the communists around Roosevelt, who at that time was probably getting pretty close to where Biden was when he left.
Certainly by the time Roosevelt left, he didn't know who the hell he was.
And we waited.
We just sat there and we waited for the communists to take all of Eastern Europe and put them into persecution, torture, murder, and the Cold War.
Well, we don't have a Roosevelt, and we don't have a bunch of communists around this president.
We've got a president with a clear mind, a great love of America.
He's surrounded by an incredible team that has conducted a war that if he were only treated marginally fairly, this could be one of the greatest victories in American history.
I mean, we have completely devastated that place.
And only because we're humane human beings, they're hanging in.
I mean, if he wanted to spend two days leveling Tehran, maybe he could.
Tehran would look worse than the Roman Forum, the entire city of Tehran.
And then tell me how they're going to conduct a government.
Tell me how they're going to do anything at the Gulf of Hormuz.
They're threatening now to take down ships in the Red Sea.
So the president has made it clear that he wants peace.
He wanted to give it every chance.
He has now, and this is what I'm talking about in changing things.
He has taken his original offer of Friday until Friday to settle everything with Hormuz.
And he's extended it for 10 days until, and now he's come up with even a time.
April 6th, 2026, at, is that 6 p.m. or 8 p.m.?
I can't see it.
8 p.m. Eastern.
I better get better glasses.
8 p.m. Eastern Time.
8 p.m. Eastern Time.
If I were one of those guys who's hanging on by the skin of his teeth, I'd write that down in my calendar.
What day of the week is that?
I'd check the day of the week.
I would.
Yeah.
So now we have between now and then to work out these terms.
So in a manner of speaking, there are negotiations going on.
They're not what we think of as they're sitting down in a big room in Pakistan or Oman or US or and Jared and Steve are on one side of the table and the terrorist monster murderers are on the other side of the table.
They all are.
I mean, I don't know how Steve and Jared do this.
They're sitting right across from mass murderers.
Some of them I know because I've been involved with this damn thing since it started and very deeply involved for the last 14 years.
The one who's running things now, who lies about everything, was the mayor of Tehran for eight years.
He probably killed more of the MEK members than anyone.
When you see the MEK members on my show, when I put them on, you got about a one in five chance that one of their relatives was killed by him.
And he worked directly for Soleimani.
Moderate?
Yeah, moderate, like hell.
So that's what we're faced with.
So we sent them a 15-point plan.
In all fairness, the 15-point plan is unconditional surrender.
It's as bad, if not worse, than Russia sent to Ukraine when they basically said Ukraine had to give up its army, Ukraine couldn't defend itself, Ukraine had to give up territory that Russia hadn't taken.
The Ukraine couldn't be part of NATO.
Ukraine couldn't have an army.
Russia has since actually changed it a little.
So we took what we did back in March of a year ago and we added to it.
I won't go over all of it.
We went over all of it last night, but just think about this.
What we said to them is, of course, you got to do away with your nuclear program.
But since they can't be trusted, we have to have unfettered access to all of their facilities.
And the ones that we identify, Fordot and Natans and Ishfahan, we have to determine that they've been deprived of any and all nuclear material and have been blown up to such an extent that they can't be used for that for the foreseeable 20 or 30 years.
They also have to be open to immediate and constant inspections by the IAEA, who they shut out for two years.
They cannot, and here's this, this will be a very, very big debate.
They cannot do anything to extend the length of their missiles.
In fact, they have to virtually stop missile production.
They'll be allowed to do missile production under our direct.
We'll do it for them.
They're going to have to buy their missiles from us.
And they'll be for defensive purposes because we'll make them just for defensive purposes.
They have to, of course, open the Gulf of Vormuz, which will be run by a committee, not by them.
Of course, you know who the chairman of the committee will be, right?
He's the chairman of all committees.
I think, this is not in the 15 points, but if you listen to him carefully today, he wants a lot of oil from them.
You know he likes to get paid for all this money that we're spending.
So they come back with a proposal that's just the opposite.
They come back with a five-point proposal that says that there has to be an absolute end to the war.
There has to be, all sanctions have to be over.
They should be allowed to continue to enrich uranium at lower levels, but that's where we started, right?
At lower levels.
And we have to guarantee that we're not going to take any more military action against them with no provision for, you know, should they break the agreement.
So these are two non-starters, right?
At the same time, so that's the peace part.
You would think that the Arab countries, right?
Saudi Arabia, particularly Qatar, who's been playing two sides against the middle.
Emirates, who has not been playing two sides against the middle, and has and should be rewarded greatly.
If we have an ally there, aside from Bahrain, it's the Emirates.
And frankly, the Emirates, of course, is a much more powerful ally because it has an army.
Of course, Jordan and Egypt also.
You would think they'd be saying, okay, we're getting hit so hard.
Let's make a peace.
Let's make a peace.
Let's make a peace.
Well, the foreign minister of the Emirates today made a statement saying, in essence, there can't be a peace with this regime.
It has to be gone.
That we, the EAU, can't live in peace with this theocratic regime in Iran.
Who does that sound like?
Sounds like B.B. Netanyahu wrote that for him, right?
Isn't that what Netanyahu has been saying for 20 years?
Saudi Arabia hasn't gone that far.
Saudi Arabia has said, we're not going to allow you to hit us anymore.
And we are responding.
So that hasn't yet involved their using their rather decent-sized air force against them.
But they have opened several bases that we weren't using before.
And they are now defending those bases.
So even though I don't think we acknowledge this, you've got two of the Arab countries, Saudi Arabia and the Emirates, that are right now contributing to the effort against the war.
And they are advising the president, shock of all shocks, not to make a deal.
Turkey, Pakistan, Turkey, Pakistan for sure, are doing the opposite.
They are advising to make a deal.
And I believe Turkey wants to make a deal because Erdogan wants to become Iran.
He's always wanted to become Iran.
Erdogan would like to see a deal.
He knows the country, whatever deal they make, the country's gone for 10, 15 years.
In that period of time, he feels, I think, he can assert himself as the top Muslim murderer in the Middle East.
And he is not as evil a man as Ayatollah, as the Ayatollah, but this is like saying, you know, let's put the Shah back instead of the Ayatollah.
So one guy killed 10,000 people and the other killed 100,000.
Our European allies, however, oh, they want peace.
Give Iran anything they want.
I think Macron would give him his wife if he had to.
France basically has a ceasefire in which France seeds everything ready at the start of every war.
And it's just a question of will they sign it in a day, two, or three.
It is true that Macron sent, Britain didn't even do this, a ship to the Persian Gulf theoretically to help us, but it isn't going to be used until the hostilities are over.
What good is that going to do us?
Why don't you get your damn ship out of there?
So, in essence, to sum it up, what you might have expected, which is the European countries urging us to get rid of this threat, particularly since Iran, when it sent its missile to Diego Garcia,
that is 2,500 miles from Iran, showed that it has the capacity to reach much of Europe.
And you know, they did it just for that purpose.
You would think they would say, well, we've got to get rid of these guys now because we're going to have to live with this forever if we don't get rid of it now.
Just the opposite, because they have been so Western Europe is so demoralized, so useless.
It's worse than anyone has described.
And the Arab countries, the president has made, and Israel has made a lot of progress with them.
And Iran, in hitting them, thinking they would get them to urge Trump to back off, it had exactly the opposite impact.
So it's going to be very interesting.
The president, the forces on the president are amazing, right?
So he's got the European allies saying, we can make a good deal.
We can get it open.
He'll have a big win.
The world economy will go back to wonderful things and you'll have a great 2026 election.
And you got the Arabs saying you can't trust these guys.
And if you solve something with them now, more than likely by the summer, you're going to be back into this again.
Because we know them better than anyone, and that's what's going to happen.
We got them on the ropes now.
Why don't we knock them through the ropes?
So big decision, difficult decision.
One of the most difficult the president has to make.
Don't you think, Ted?
I do, Mayor.
And we found out today what exactly this gift from Iran was.
And that is in cut two, President Trump explains.
Go ahead.
Let's do that.
They said to show you the fact that we're real and solid and we're there, we're going to let you have eight boats of oil, eight boats, eight big boats of oil.
This was two days ago.
And they'll sail up tomorrow.
That was three days ago.
And I didn't think much about it.
And then I watched the news and they said, a very good anchor, actually.
Happy to be Fox.
But I watched it and they said, something's unusual happening.
There are eight boats that are going right up the middle of the Hormo Strait.
Eight big tankers are going loaded up with oil right through.
And I said, well, I guess they were right and they were real.
And I think they were Pakistani flagged.
And I said, well, I guess we deal with the right people.
And actually, they then apologized for something they said.
And they said, we're going to send two more boats.
And it ended up being 10 boats.
I hope I haven't screwed up your negotiations, but I thought it was appropriate to say because I did taunt you the other day by saying they're going to give us a present.
The coffee's talking too off to the side.
I don't know how I interpret that.
May I just be very blunt?
I don't really give a shit if they send oil to Pakistan.
Pakistan is on their side.
You tell me they sent that to Europe or they sent it to Israel.
And then I'd say, okay, yeah, sure.
Or it was an American ship that went through.
I don't know what's going on.
I've got to tell you, I am confused as hell.
Meanwhile, they are saying that if that, and I don't know exactly what the threat is.
I know what they're threatening to do.
I don't know what the action point is.
The threat is that they're going to start bombing boats in the Red Sea.
And that's the Red Sea is much more open.
It doesn't have a narrow passage like the Strait of Hormuz.
It would be much easier for us to defend that.
I almost don't think it can go through the Red Sea.
About one-third of the American Navy is in the Red Sea right now.
So this may be a hollow threat.
And they said that the passageway connecting the Red Sea and the Gulf of Eden could be next if the United States makes any attempts against Charge Island.
Now, both sides are putting out two somewhat or very contradictory messages, right?
No, I shouldn't say that.
The U.S. is putting out contradictory messages.
One is we're very interested in peace.
Number two is we just continually send more and more of our Navy and now our Army and our Marines there.
The latest group are 3,000 airborne officers of the 82nd Division.
Now, these are paratroopers who are trained as special forces operators.
So they're not just paratroopers.
Let's call them paratroopers plus something more similar to the CLT.
They do very specialized things.
Almost too much for Charge Island.
You don't need them for that island.
We've taken out, on that island, we've taken out all of their ammunition, all of their armaments, everything they could use to stop us, fight us.
We left the oil alone.
We think.
Obviously, you could always have made some mistake.
Well, this 10 days thing, Mayor, remember, about 10 days before the initial strikes, the president had said, and it was the headline of one of our shows.
President Trump says decision to strike Iran could come within 10 days.
He said that on February 19th.
And the strikes took place February 28th.
So this 10-day thing now, I can't help but thinking of that.
Well, they think of it.
If you read the Asian papers and you read the European papers, they are very, very clear that the Iranians don't know how to interpret it.
The Iranians are very, I'm sure they have groups that contend with each other.
And there's a group saying, isn't he doing the same thing to us that he did last time?
Twice he's done it.
Twice he said, we have very good negotiations.
And then he, you know, Israel and then the United States bombed the hell out of him and killed their Ayatollah.
Is he doing the same thing again?
That's the question.
And we'll have cover more at eight o'clock because now.
So, I want you to notice when you say the Pakistani ships, mediators from Turkey, Egypt, and Pakistan are pushing for a meeting between the U.S. and Iranian officials as soon as possible.
The Arab countries are against it.
Foreign Minister Abbas Aragachi says they have no intention of negotiating.
But apparently, he said something different to them.
So, we don't know.
We don't know.
We don't know what's true from the Iranian side.
But the president did say that this time they better not lie.
Because last time when he said they were starting negotiations, they denied it.
And so, let's see what happens now within the next eight, 10 hours.
Are they going to agree that we are in discussions?
Right.
It'll be interesting to see the next comments from Iran's foreign minister, who has been the face, the face of the regime, especially since the Ayatollah was killed almost a month ago now.
At the eight o'clock show, I'll give you a sense of his back.
I'll give you a little of his biography.
I mean, these people appear with these names you can't pronounce, but they are actual human beings, and they have extraordinarily frightening records.
I mean, it's hard to say who's killed more.
Right.
So, at the eight o'clock hour, when we go on X, I'll put that aside and we'll take care of that.
And I'll also point out: I saw that the president's not going to CPAC.
Now, I assume that's because he doesn't want to take his mind off of the war.
Right.
We have Mike Lindell with us, who is the chief operating officer of Mike Lindell TV, as you know.
And Mike, I believe, is at CPAC.
Hold on, here I am.
Hello?
Oh, Governor.
Hey, I'll tell you, it's the loudest it's been here.
I'm going to read your lips there, Mr. Mayor.
Okay.
We're having a great time here at Lindell TV at CPAC.
And everybody's been asking me.
They're all praying that I win governor of Minnesota.
And I told them I've got a new plan.
We're going to do rallies all over Minnesota, mini-rallies.
And we're going to invite great speakers to come out like Mayor Rudy Giuliani.
And they're all going crazy here.
But seriously.
And in Minnesota, what they're doing, everybody, the GOP, since I won't go by their endorsement, because I believe that we got to have a lot of resources to win this, and I'm going to be able to raise it nationally because Minnesota is the tip of the spear.
And what they've been doing is they don't let me speak at their events because I won't go by their endorsement.
I'm going to go with the people.
Right now, Mayor, I'm polling number one in Minnesota.
This is what the people want.
And then we get there and you get to these debates.
And the one gal goes, well, you know, she's the speaker of the House Republican running for governor.
And she says, Lisa Damon, she says, well, I'm going to, about a year and a half ago, I brought up Brud and the Democrats bought me.
I said, well, $25 billion was taken out of Minnesota in Fraud.
Maybe you should have yelled a little louder.
So, I mean, this is disgusting what's going on here.
But I'll tell you, the fraud, everybody, is the biggest blessing Minnesota ever had.
I mean, you can, because now we have all these corrupt politicians are going to go to prison.
They're going to go to jail.
We're going to free up Minnesota, bring back our good economy we used to have here.
Now we have the highest corporate tax in America, the highest income tax.
We have the biggest fraud, although their president says there's a lot more elsewhere, which I believe.
But now it's going to be, it's going to be okay.
Five years ago, if I said ban Sharia law, I was a racist.
Now with the fraud, everybody can say it.
When I'm governor, I'm going to ban Sharia law.
It doesn't go with our Constitution.
And Mayor, this is right up your alley.
They ask me, how are you going to make Minneapolis safe again?
I say, I know a guy, the greatest mayor in the history of the United States, made New York the safest, the safest city in the world.
I used to go to New York when you made it a safe city.
It was amazing.
And you have that blueprint.
I'm going to be picking your brain and saying, hey, we need help here in Minneapolis.
You have to get police to arrest people.
You have to put criminals in jail for a very long period than not.
It's really tough.
I mean, nobody ever thought of it.
And if somebody committed rape, instead of putting him out in Greenland like a guy, a Democrat just did in Long Island, you put him in jail for the rest of his life.
You see what he can't rape again.
That's how you deter crime.
Or if you have a guy that's committed 30 or 40 robberies, you don't put him back out on the street for the rest of his life because you're going to prevent a thousand robberies.
It works really well.
Professor named James Q Wilson wrote this in the 1970s.
And you've told me, I'll tell you, believe that.
Mayor, you've told me, I can't hear you real good, but you've told me so many stories because I'm going, how did you do this?
How'd you make it safe?
You guys, you back law enforcement.
I remember you put the precinct right in the middle of Times Square.
I'll tell you what, right now in Minneapolis, you guys, and I want to tell this for the country when we talk about illegals.
In Minnesota, we have over our felons that are in our prisons.
They're the murderers, rapists, the illegals that have committed felonies.
We pay $85,000 a year to house them, $110 million.
We're paying this taxpayers of Minnesota.
Now, here's what I want to tell everybody.
Every illegal that comes into this country breaks a law, almost everyone, within 90 days.
And what laws do they break?
It's usually a driving law.
They drive you legally or they maybe they steal something, but when they break that law, that gross misdemeanor or misdemeanor, they get arrested.
They get brought down to the jails.
Now they've already committed two crimes then.
All you got to do is call up ICE and say, hey, we got some more.
Let's ship the felons back.
They're due their time in their own countries.
They ship them back.
And it becomes a filter to filter them out out of our country.
And then I'll tell you, there's also another factor to this.
The ones that are here that haven't broke a law, there's another person breaking the law, and that's the employers that are paying them cash.
In Minnesota, it's absolutely, it's unbelievable how much cash is going out where these employers are not paying taxes with their businesses.
My pillow and other businesses in Minnesota, we are paying our taxes and our employment taxes and our workmen's comp and all these taxes.
But you know what?
Those employers are going to go to jail on my watch.
They're sitting there paying cash to these illegals, probably paying them a little bit of cash too.
They need to go to jail.
They're their enablers.
So there's so many things.
The last thing, Mayor, I want to bring up because it comes up in Minneapolis.
Minneapolis has the best protest laws in the United States, but we don't follow them.
You can't, in Minneapolis, you can't, you have to get a permit to protest.
It's all been ignored by our corrupt politician.
You protest, they stop people in the middle of the road, you stop people on sidewalks.
When ICE was here, when they left, the protesters were in the middle of neighborhoods asking people for IDs to make sure they weren't ICE and that they lived in the neighborhood.
How ironic is that?
You can't make this up.
So, what you're describing to me, in the words of the great American philosopher, the Yoji Barrow, is deja vu all over again.
I began enforcing the license laws for protests.
Nobody even knew what they were.
I enforced them and I took a city that had two or three major riots, including a pogrom before I became mayor.
And in eight years, we didn't have a violent riot.
In fact, we didn't have a violent riot for 20 years until a Democrat Communist got in.
You know, you know, you know, Mayor, I can't hear you that going.
Of all times, they got these Patriots singing on stage.
I'm going to go join them and sing with them, I think.
But I will, but I want to say this: I speak tomorrow morning here at CPAC, and I want to give people a message of hope in the morning.
I want to give people a message of hope for these midterms.
And I'll tell you, everybody, we need to pass that Save America Act.
It has to get passed.
Our president knows the most important thing is our elections to secure our elections, or everything else will be in vain.
Mayor, thank you for you being part of Lindell TV.
You're a hero.
Can I make one recommendation as your unofficial campaign manager?
What's that?
Don't stay.
What you're doing is great.
Do that.
Do what you're doing now.
You know how you're doing.
I'm pretty stubborn.
I don't think I'll be changing anytime soon.
Nick, I keep.
I know you called me up when I decided to run everybody.
The mayor called me up.
He says, Now, Mike, they're going to attack you like you've never been attacked.
And then he thought for a minute, well, maybe it'll just be the same as it's been.
God bless you, Mayor.
That enthusiasm.
Thank you, sir.
You get all over that darn state, but I'm happy to help you.
Wow.
God bless you guys.
God bless you.
We're going to take a short break and calm down a little.
I mean, wow, that enthusiasm is just what you need to bring out the vote.
And of course, this is not this year.
So don't get confused.
Oh, is it this year?
Yes.
Yes, it is this year.
Wow.
Oh, my goodness.
Wow.
Right.
It's not the presidential year.
It's this year.
Okay.
Well, now he's got the right enthusiasm.
That's right.
Well, we'll be right back.
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Welcome back to the Rudy Giuliani Show.
Well, in Los Angeles, of all places, there was a very interesting and a very important decision.
And it was a decision against social media, Meta and Google specifically.
And the decision was a very large verdict.
Mounts to about, when you count the punitive damages and everything else, six to seven million dollars.
Brought on behalf of a 20, now 20-something-year-old girl who, starting at a very young age, became addicted to social media and then had any number of terrible things happen to her.
She started using it at six years old.
And I think she's now 17.
During the period of time that she used it, she was bullied at school.
She had problems at home.
She had clinical depression.
She had body dysmorphia.
Now, the case also involved thoughts of suicide.
And these cases have all been lost in the past.
And they've been lost because of a law called the Communications Act of 1934 that was amended in the 1990s.
And the act gives immunity to the social media that is not available to the broadcast channels.
And the immunity is that they cannot be sued for their content.
So, for example, if they say that Mary John Smith put a picture up of her committed murder on CBS,
and they know that she didn't commit murder, or they didn't do any kind of research, you can sue CBS.
As you see, Trump has.
It's hard, but you can do it.
Same thing happens on Google or cannot sue.
You might be able to sue the person who did it.
Let's say I put it on.
You could sue me, but you can't sue the company.
Now, that was done when the internet was beginning so that they could develop.
And then at the right time, when they became big enough, there would be a code of conduct that would be established like we have for broadcast.
Now, that's not the very best either, but at least it exists.
That has never happened.
Republicans promise to do it.
Democrats balk it.
And quite honestly, Republicans don't push very hard because it's hard to tell who has legitimate views on this and who's getting paid off by one of the richest industries in the world.
I mean, this could mean substantial loss of money for that character, Zucker Zucker Pucker, what's his name?
Zuckerberg?
Zucker Duberbooper.
Zuckerberg.
Zucker Ballots.
I think of him, I think of all the 400,000, the 400, yeah, the $400 million he spent on putting ballot boxes only in Democratic areas and was a material part of the worst election fix in American history.
I don't know if you saw him before Congress.
He looked to me like, I spent a lot of time in court looking at people, how they reacted, both as a prosecutor and a defense lawyer.
Jesus, this guy looks so guilty.
It was unbelievable.
So, but here's what the lawyers, here's what the lawyers for, how do they describe that?
They describe her as KGM.
The plaintiff is Kaylee.
I don't think that's actually even her name.
So that she's protected against who knows what, right?
And she's still only 17.
She's still technically a minor.
She was subjected to this for quite some time.
They made a motion at the very, very beginning to throw the case out because they said the case violates Section 230.
And that virtually has happened over and over and over again.
Her lawyers came up with a very interesting and creative argument that's very debatable, but very interesting.
It is, they're not suing for the content.
They're not suing for the dirty pictures they put up, the horrible scenes of murder, even the suggestions of suicide.
They're suing for negligence in the way they constructed their platform.
Not the content of the platform, but the way the platform is constructed.
The platform has things about it that lure you to remain on it, that keep you there, that bring you back to it.
So here you have this admittedly offensive conduct.
Let's say they're showing a story about a young girl who has body dysmorphia and is spending her time wondering whether she's a boy,
and they're pointing out how natural that is and how easy it is to change.
And it's much better if you change and you'll avoid suicide if you do.
What I'm telling you is not, this is not a hypothetical I am making up in my head.
These are the things they proved to try.
You can't sue them for that.
However, they then have on the rest of their program, they'll have things like they'll stop it in the middle at a very interesting point, and they'll say,
we'll be back in two minutes, and then we're going to show this to lure you to come back.
Or if they're going to go off to another day, they'll have a special day to come back.
And then they'll offer incentives to do that.
There are a group of about 10 devices they use, both Facebook mostly, but Google, who often is transmitting it for them.
They also have things that I don't understand because I don't use this, which will automatically get you into it.
Even if you don't want to get into it, they can slip you into it.
You know, maybe you ask a question about, maybe you ask a question about how you think you're overweight and what you should do about it.
Before you know it, you're starting to get all these suggestions that maybe you should have an operation or you should take medicines or there's something seriously wrong with you.
Or maybe this is a question of you don't like, you're not comfortable with your sexuality.
And it goes on and on and on and on.
So this court decided that that is a legitimate distinction, that they are not, Congress said you're immune from content,
you're not immune from creation of the overall platform.
Went to the jury, and the jury decided that within that context of rules the judge set up, they both were hit with $3 million damages,
regular damages and punitive damages.
Punitive damages are damages that a jury can award because you did something very much approaching a crime, something not just negligent, but something that was malicious.
They're going to appeal it.
Now, at the same time, there was a case in New Mexico.
It came down the day before, and it was a similar case, a little sketchy on the details again, because they wanted to be sensitive to the plaintiff involved.
And in that case, The jury in New Mexico agreed with the Attorney General, Raul Torres.
Now, this case was brought by the Attorney General, and it was brought on, but it would have to be, I guess, very solid evidence.
The legal theory may be debatable, but the facts are quite solid.
They put what they call a tween on.
In other words, a fake child, an undercover child, and punch it, put them on the social media, set up the criteria that they would prey on.
You know, maybe a young girl that is having trouble with weight, maybe a young man who's having trouble with self-image.
So they created the lure for the kind of people that they fish for to try to destroy.
And lo and behold, they came right after them, and they have all this stuff recorded.
One of them was bombarded by messages from creeps, testing out all kinds of possibilities, including encouraging suicide.
Exactly why people want to encourage other people to commit suicide is so sick that it gives you a sense of how the communists have succeeded in what Karl Marx always wanted to do,
to create a completely amoral society.
Because if you can complete a complete, if you can create a completely amoral society, one person can take it over and dominate it.
And that's where they're going.
That's why they're doing this.
As I've told you before, we've gone through years of watching this deterioration go on in our society.
You take abortion and when it started, although many people thought it was wrong, admonitio, I did, but some people thought, well, you could have like a compromise first three months, but then no.
Now we have abortion up to the moment that the child leaves the womb.
And we have, for some Democrats, a hangover period where if the child that they're trying to abort is delivered, you keep the child comfortable, but you don't take extraordinary steps to save it.
And when the mother becomes conscious, the doctor and the mother decide what happens to the baby.
Well, I'm sorry, but the doctor and the mother have now lost any right under any analysis of our law to make that decision because you call the decision they may make, if they don't keep her alive, murder.
Actually, in many states that still allow that, if someone were to shoot a pregnant woman who's eight months pregnant, it's a double homicide.
However, you can pull that child out of the womb and crush its skull.
And a doctor is perfectly fine.
Now, why a doctor would do that gives you another example of what's happened to the medical profession and how that has become completely amoral.
And amoral may sound better than immoral.
It's worse.
It means people don't know how to make choices.
They have no concept of the difference between good and evil.
They have no concept of principle or loyalty or decency.
They've got some ideological goal in mind, and that ideological goal allows them, because they're greater than God, to do anything they want.
I just described communists, and I just described very strict Muslims.
And you wonder how they get to work together.
That's how they get to work together.
They have the same operating principle.
Muhammad in the 7th century had the same operating principle that Karl Marx had in the 19th century.
They come together.
And we are suffering from that, you know, right now.
Now, here's the problem.
And it was done, it was a very short article by Professor Turley.
I think most of you know Professor Turley.
He's on Fox quite a bit.
He was on during the whole Trump trials.
And he is an excellent lawyer.
Speaks a lot on criminal law, but his real background is tort law.
Now, tort law, you might not know what that is, but that's the law of negligence.
That's the law that applies here.
He's skeptical that this will be upheld.
He's skeptical because he says that you cannot separate the way these lawyers and these two judges that accepted this interpretation, and a lot of judges have rejected it,
that the two concepts of content and creation merge into one.
So if you have immunity for one, you have immunity for the other.
I have not had the time to think about it enough to tell you my answer to that.
I know the answer I would like, which is that they should be liable.
And that's what Congress should do.
But here's where we're a country of laws and not of men.
We really have to interpret what the Congress wanted.
And this will go up on appeal in Los Angeles.
Probably going to get reversed if it goes up to the federal system.
The Ninth Circuit is the most liberal circuit in the country.
Not the worst.
The DC Circuit is the worst.
The other case, which goes from the Attorney General, who knows?
In any event, you're going to probably hear this argument in the Supreme Court next year.
These two cases will go to their respective courts of appeal.
Oh, let's just flip a coin and say one gets upheld and one gets reversed.
If that happens, it almost definitely get to the Supreme Court.
If they both get upheld, it will go to the Supreme Court because there's a lot of cases against it that the Supreme Court has to resolve.
Here's where we get into trouble.
If they both get reversed, it might not go to the Supreme Court because the body of law now is all the same, maybe wrong, but it's all the same.
Everybody thinks that you can just go to the Supreme Court.
The Supreme Court takes no more than about 6% of the cases like this that are presented to it.
Now, this is a much more interesting case.
This is a case that has wide consequences.
So the chances are greater than 6%, but they're not 100.
But we'll keep following it because they're onto something that is so necessary.
And sometimes it's very difficult to be a lawyer because the rules and the laws that are put in place were put in place at a certain time when people didn't see dangers.
Now you see the dangers and you just can't change the law like that to fix it.
The common sense answer here is real simple.
I mean, you've watched Zuckerberg testify and they were doing everything they could to get as many of those poor kids on there because they made money.
It's the same thing that they do with the trans people.
Why all of a sudden in the last 10 years have 100 times more kids decided they're having body dysmorphia?
Because if the kid decides he has body dysmorphia and you treat the kid the way honest, honorable doctors have been doing it for 100 years, 200 years, 300 years, you'll tell the kid this is a passing fancy.
Let's work on it.
And if it's really bad, they'll go to a psychiatrist and they'll fix it.
But if you want to make $5,000 or $10,000 or $15,000 or $40,000 when doctors are kind of feel they're getting cheated, well, you just talk the kid into taking the hormones that cost three, four, five,
six, seven, eight thousand with all kinds of bonuses from the crooked companies.
And then if you really want to score big, you chop off their genitals.
Or in the case of this young lady, you take off her breasts.
And these are doctors.
Remember how much we used to respect doctors?
Well, we'll try to have more uplifting stories on eggs.
We'll throw one in on baseball and we'll throw one in on the World Cup.
I am enormously ecstatic because the Yankees won their first game 7-0 last night, which means we're going to have an undefeated season.
And then we'll follow up a little bit on the World Cup that Andrew described to us really, really well last night because there's a team that has a chance to compete.
And it really is quite a kind of, remember the movie, Rudy?
Not about me, about the kid at Notre Dame?
This is kind of like a Rudy movie for this country.
And then we'll also get you up to date on the four changes that have happened since we started in our position on what we're doing about Iran.