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This is Rudy Giuliani, and this is the Rudy Giuliani show.
And we are broadcasting to you from Palm Beach, but behind us, we have the city of Tehran.
And we do because, gosh, who knows?
I mean, who really knows?
Oh, no, I don't want to do that.
Okay, we'll take care of it later.
All right.
Now, who really knows what's going to happen and when it's going to happen?
Today, we did have some arms shared, went back and forth between the United States and the country that everyone, not everyone, a lot of people think we're going to attack Iran.
An Iranian drone got too close to an American, to the, I think probably to the Abraham Lincoln.
Now, that's a big mistake.
You know, the drone's about this big, and the Abraham Lincoln is bigger than Iran.
And the people on the Abraham Lincoln tried to tell it, you know, go away, go away, go away, go away.
And then they yawned and shot it down.
I don't know if they did it from the boat.
I think I heard they did it with an F-35, which had to be for practice.
One guy wanted, one guy named David, you know that?
He was an ensign.
He wanted to do it with a slingshot, but they said that would be too embarrassing.
The Jews had once done that, you know, in that part of the world.
And they never got over it.
So they said they would use something, you know, to make it sound like it was important.
So they sent an F-35 up there and destroyed the drone.
I wonder if we destroyed it like completely, or we were able to recover parts of it.
Huh.
Well, we'll find out.
We'll find out because then we'll find out what kind of drone was it.
We might even know.
Was it a surveillance drone?
Was it a drone equipped with arms, with bombs, with guns, or both?
Was it a drone intended for taking pictures?
Or was it a drone intended to attack or a drone intended to do both?
That would make a little bit of a little bit of a difference, I guess.
Did the Iranians really think we were going to get near the ship?
That's.
They must be living in another world.
That's what happens if you read the Quran too much.
You end up in another world.
When you read the book of death and killing, you end up in another world.
Particularly when you've convinced all the assholes in the West that it's a book of peace.
A U.S. Navy fighter jet shot down an Iranian drone that was approaching the aircraft carrier USS Abraham Lincoln in the, and they call it the Arabian Sea.
Yeah, I mean, it can be called a lot of different things.
You want to show it on your map?
Show it on your map.
They call it the Arabian Sea.
Lots of right off Saudi Arabia, we're talking about?
Yes.
Well, yeah, you could call it that.
You could call it that.
I mean, the Iranians like to call it the Persian Gulf for obvious reasons, but isn't that the big battle?
Is it Persia or is it Arab?
So you can come up with either name for it.
The ship, the ship is, I don't think it's moved.
So let's see where it was yesterday.
We're talking about the Abraham Lincoln, right?
So if you want to take a look here, it was, you see it online?
The USS Abraham Lincoln carrier strike group?
Yeah.
There it is.
It's in the Arabian Sea or the Persian Gulf.
And the drone approached, the drone aggressively approached the aircraft carrier with unclear intent and continued to fly toward the ship despite the escalatory measures taken by U.S. forces.
Very operating.
Typical, I mean, all that does is sort of suggest that if this attack takes place, it'll go the same way as the last one did.
When I'm not sure they fired a shot, did they?
Questioning whether they just wanted to submit or the Israelis had done such a good job on them, they didn't have anything left.
The Shahed 139 drone was shot down by a F-35C fighter jet from aboard the Lincoln, as you which I think is a lot for that stupid thing.
Okay.
The Lincoln was sailing about 500 miles from Iran's southern coast.
Yeah, that's not even as close as Begram Air Base was that Biden gave away.
That's smart.
Real smart, Biden.
Got a nice airbase 400 miles from Iran.
Now we got to have a boat 500 miles away because you gave it away.
Because the American people so far really can't stand, can't quite take the fact that you really are, we really had a president who was a traitor.
But we did.
You don't take all that money from China and Russia and not be a traitor.
You don't give away an airbase 400 miles from China, 500 miles from Russia.
I'm sorry, it was 500 miles from Iran.
The same as the ship.
It was closer to China.
So that's what's going on in Iran.
Plus, as we will explain to you at the 8 o'clock show, where we have some of our guests who have expertise on this, for some reason that I'm not completely, well, I think I mean, I understand.
I guess I don't, I find it difficult to accept.
We're going to have more negotiations with the reign of terror.
It seems to me we've really wasted our time for 47 years negotiating with them, but nothing like wasting a whole more time.
And we'll see.
What could that yield?
Where do people stand on it now?
Both the allies and our enemies and the so-called press.
And where is everybody on it?
And what do they think is going to happen over the course of the next four or five days as we lead to that meeting, which will be in Abu Dhabi on Friday with Jared Kushner and who else will be with him?
In Abu Dhabi, Abu Dhabi, we'll get that list for you.
I think Jared's already there, I think.
I'm just wondering if it's the secretary.
You talk about the Russia-Ukraine.
Who?
On Wednesday, Russia, Ukraine, and the U.S. will be meeting in Abu Dhabi.
But who's it?
That one?
Witkoff and Jared Kushner.
So then I think Friday will be Witkoff.
I mean, I'm a little confused.
Now, Witkoff is Ukraine, right?
Yes.
But it's Witkoff Iran, too.
I believe there were talks of that happening.
So as of now, Friday is going to be Jared and Witkoff, the same group that are negotiating Iran.
So they are going to be in Abu Dhabi on Wednesday.
And then it's going to hold over.
And then on Friday, they're going to have a meeting on Iran, who might very well be hit before that.
And then Friday in Istanbul is where Mr. Witkoff and Jared are going to meet with Iran's foreign minister.
As of now, sir.
Then I have it wrong.
They're going to be in Abu Dhabi for the meeting.
They're going to be in Abu Dhabi for the meeting with Ukraine and Russia to try to settle that thing.
And then they're going to be in on Thursday, on Friday, they're going to go to Istanbul, where they're going to be with the Islamic extremist Erdogan, who pretends not to be and is a complete scoundrel and crook.
And he'll be hosting that as a very, very strong behind-the-scenes supporter of the regime of terror and himself a murderer.
Abbas Ira Gachi.
That's Iran's foreign minister.
Hopefully, we never get to that.
Hopefully, by that time, we've taken out the regime of terror.
That would be a better solution.
But we'll get to explaining that.
That's actually.
So, what does this tell you?
Iran wants to change the venue to Oman.
Martinio Oman, and they don't want to be in Turkey?
That is the link.
They can't do better than Turkey.
Well, Oman, they control.
Oman, they've been controlling for some time.
And Iran wants to do that.
They want to talk to the U.S. alone.
If they do this in Turkey...
What does that mean, alone?
Alone without Erdogan.
Turkey is going to include several countries as of now.
But the countries, I mean, these are the countries that have been trying to talk the United States, I think, out of attacking Iran.
So I don't know why they want those countries missing.
They think they're going to be more persuasive without countries that, I mean, for better or worse, the president has a good relationship with Erdogan.
If I were Iran, I would want Erdogan there.
Or Iran wants specifically just wants to talk to Trump, maybe.
Well, Trump's not going.
Trump's not going, but they want to talk to the U.S. knowing that they want to get their focus solely on Trump after seeing what the president was murdered in Venezuela.
Doesn't make any sense.
It doesn't make any sense to not have countries that he has a good relationship with.
He has a good relationship with, I don't know about the country.
He's got a good relationship with Erdogan.
He's got a good relationship with all of the Arab leaders, including Salmon.
Could it be Israel?
They don't want Israel involved.
Israel's not involved.
So in Turkey, Israel was not going to be alone.
Does Israel have any relationship?
Which does...
Yeah, Israel's not going to be...
Israel has not been at any of these talks, and I seriously doubt they'll be at any of these talks.
So this has nothing to do with Israel.
They really do think that on their own, they can do magic with Witkoff and I think probably Witkoff is the one they see they see.
I hate to say this, but I mean, they see how Putin sort of appears to have like spin him around his finger, and maybe they figure they can do the same thing.
I don't know if that would do any good.
And I'm not sure if Putin really did that.
I mean, at times it appeared that way, but I'm not sure he really did.
Okay, so today we're going to get to that at eight, and we're going to have a whole presentation on that and show you how they can get to about three or four different positions, all of which are up for grabs right now.
The president met with Gustavo Petro.
Now, Gustavo Petro is an unfortunate, tragic selection for a country that until a few years ago was really our best ally in South America,
maybe one of the strongest countries in South America, wanted to become a model for how to overcome both terrorists and drug dealers in the 12 or so year really war that they had against the FARC, which is the terrorist group and the cartels.
And they defeated them.
And then they made a critical mistake with really their version of a rhino who allowed the FARC and the terrorists to re-enter government if they confessed, gave up their arms, and were good boys for a few years.
Well, now they've re-entered.
To a very large extent, Gustavo Petro is a creature of theirs, and he is about as rotten a world leader as you can find.
He is, but he's also a slimy little coward that I can't, I think the press wasn't allowed in.
I would imagine the president slapped him around a few times.
But do we have any readout on what happened?
Kara, we have Kara standing by.
The whole purpose of this meeting is to get this guy to stop sending drugs in the United States and stop reviving Colombia as a drug capital, which he's doing.
And I really do think there'll be somebody else.
Well, he's, I don't even sure he's running for re-election.
We have Karen.
Go ahead.
Carol, are you there?
Yes, Mr. May, how are you?
Do you have a sense of how the meeting with that little slimy drug dealer went?
Well, it seemingly went well.
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According to President Trump, he made a statement afterwards that we, quote, had a very good meeting.
I thought he was terrific.
Reuters also reports that Trump called the meeting, quote unquote, very good.
So President Trump always able to get along even with the worst of people.
As you know, they met privately.
Reporters were not allowed in the room.
That was at the request of Colombian officials.
They met for roughly two hours, and that meeting, like I said, was closed to the press and there was no joint press conference like you normally see in the Oval Office.
And their focus was counter-narcotics, regional issues, including drug trafficking, tensions involving Ecuador, and energy questions tied to Venezuela.
As you know, there has been months of public friction between the two leaders, both sides signaling today.
Trump describing the meeting, like I said earlier, as very good, and Petro saying in a press conference later that it went well and that their differences didn't surface face to face.
So seemingly, they're going to reset and potentially be able to start renegotiating some things.
As you know, they didn't have nice words for each other as we came into this meeting between these two leaders.
Mr. Mayor, I have a couple clips just to remind the audience how they feel about each other.
The first one is: well, let's just start with Trump today talking about the meeting.
Even though there were no reporters in the room, President Trump did make a statement afterwards, after during another announcement when there were reporters there.
Take a listen.
Was your meeting with Gustavo Petro earlier today?
And did you come to any agreement on counter-narcotic efforts?
Yeah, we did.
We worked on it and we got along very well.
He and I weren't exactly the best of friends, but I wasn't insulted because I never met him.
I didn't know him at all.
And we got along very well, and we are.
We're working on that.
We're working on some other things too, including sanctions.
And we had a very good meeting.
I thought he was terrific.
Yeah, he was very good at work.
So, President Trump.
It's hard to read that, isn't it?
It's really hard to read President Trump, and I think he just wants the best for America.
And if he could get this guy to acquiesce, you know, this is a far left, the first far, quote-unquote, far-leftist leader that Colombia has had in a long time.
He's a socialist, somewhat of a globalist, and has criticized President Trump often.
He met with Biden, I believe, two or three years ago, or rather with the Autopen, and that didn't really go so well either.
But they had a lot more in common than President Trump does with this man politically, at least when it comes to their political ideologies.
But President Trump famously said he needs to wise up where he'll be next.
And I had that clip to remind the audience of what President Trump said about Petro a few weeks ago.
Take a listen.
Over the weekend, are you talking about with Zelensky or with them?
With Zelensky.
And us.
And you said in an interview yesterday that you think it's time for Zelensky to start accepting things.
What things are you talking about?
I think he has to be realistic.
And I do wonder about how long is it going to be until they have an election?
It's democracy.
It's a long time.
They haven't had an election in a long time.
It's losing a lot of people.
And it's possible that the people, you know, if you look at the polls, I will say 82% that was a poll came out.
82% of the people are demanding a settlement be made.
Ukrainian people.
They want to see a settlement.
And I understand that they're losing thousands and thousands of people a week.
They want to see it ended.
And I do say, you know, at what point, when do they have an election in Ukraine?
That's not casting dispersions on anybody, but they do have a massive corruption situation going on there.
And they do say, you know, when are they people are asking this question?
When do they have an election?
Are they going to have an election?
Or are they going to just keep it going like this?
That was not the right clip, Mr. Mayor.
It was the wrong clip because they are having an election.
In fact, that was a reminder of Ukraine and how President Trump was able to obviously attack.
Right.
So that's Ukraine.
But could we try?
We'll try one more time.
Like, let's try the one that's labeled as Petro must wash it.
Petro, was that Petro?
Petro wash?
Okay.
Okay.
So to remind you, Mr. Mayor, President Trump said Petro has to watch his ass.
I'd rather the president say a curse on your show, but that was a clip of a curve.
I don't think it's a curse.
Right.
It's not a curse.
He said he has to watch his ass.
Not the fanciest way to describe part of the anatomy.
Right.
And I believe I was there that day, and my mouth sort of dropped to the floor because, you know, I love hearing President Trump speak like a regular person.
And I do think that Petro changed his tune.
President Trump also said, and we do have that clip.
This was earlier this week.
As you know, President Trump had a phone call with Petro earlier this month, and he believes that he changed his tune after he saw what happened to Maduro, Venezuela.
So now he's changing his tune.
So here is.
If we could slip him out of, we know Colombia a lot better than we know.
I mean, the American military virtually hand to hand fought with the Colombians to remove the FARC, to remove the cartels.
We know Colombia.
I know Colombia.
I reduced crime in four Colombian cities under two different Colombian presidents.
So you want to pluck him out.
It'd be pretty easy.
Yeah.
So President Trump sort of insinuated that at a depressor.
I'll just reiterate what he said.
I would bet that President Trump has more support in Colombia than he does.
Very close.
Very, very close.
As you know, Colombia has always been a U.S. ally and relies on the United States.
It's a right-wing country.
It's a conservative country.
It's our best ally until these communists took over and FARC people.
And they're trying to get back their dominance in drugs, which they've ceded to Mexico.
I mean, they were the dominant country for cocaine.
They probably have the best cocaine on their farms.
They still have the best cocaine.
That's their famous.
Mexico now controls it, a lot of it.
They don't.
I think they're trying to get it back.
Right.
So the president feels, and you could listen to his words yesterday regarding the change of tune, he feels, and Petro's change of tune.
So take a listen to President Trump really quick from yesterday.
Yeah, please.
He's been quite critical of you since you spoke back in January after the Maduro raid.
What would you like to hear from him tomorrow in terms of drug trafficking in Venezuela?
Well, we're going to see.
I mean, he's been very nice over the last month or two.
He was certainly critical before that, but somehow after the Venezuelan raid, he became very nice.
He changed his attitude very much.
So putting the law of God, I think, into some of these Latin American leaders.
After Venezuela, he became very nice.
And there was some stuff on social media of this Petro, Gustavo Petro, the president of Colombia, putting out a cryptic tweet.
I was reading that he said goodbye to his mother before he left Colombia as if he might not come back.
I guess he was afraid he might be arrested here in the U.S.
So it's being a little dramatic on social media with a picture of his mother who he said goodbye to before he left Colombia to come here to the United States.
And he's safe.
The president didn't arrest him.
That's not the way it works.
See, mom, he's going to be back.
The little criminal will be back.
He'll be pumping a lot of money in that he gets from the drug trade for you.
It'll be okay.
Don't worry.
It'll last a little longer.
Not much.
And there's some pictures.
If you guys could flash those pictures, Jason, of the little unusual that he didn't open it to the press, huh?
He showed him the auto pen, though, Mr. Mayor.
As you can see, the auto pen picture behind.
So this picture is of President Trump hosting the Colombian president.
He showed him the walk of presidents and passed by the auto pen.
This was all shared on social media by Gustavo Petro.
He has a lot of followers.
Apparently, he's a social media influencer as well as the president of Colombia.
And this was something that President Trump gave him when he left.
It says, a great honor.
I love Colombia.
Signed President Trump addressed to Gustavo.
So that's them shaking hands.
And that's that picture that everybody gets upon leaving the White House that the president usually sends them off with.
So it seemed like they had a good meeting where at least things will be able to reset.
The personal insults were not traded.
As you know, President Trump didn't have good words for him.
And he was all but accusing President Trump of pretty much war crimes.
So, you know, hopefully we'll see some progress from here.
Obviously, Colombia is an important ally in this region of the world.
So I think President Trump realizes that, but part of his strategy is intimidation when it comes to some of his foes.
And I think it was strategic.
And I think that it worked in this case because Gustavo did a press conference, a press conference afterwards.
It was about an hour too long.
It was in Spanish.
I tried to listen to it and understand, but really just nothing but nice words for President Trump and nothing negative in saying that he wants to be able to work with him moving forward.
So good.
Well, there'll be a real test of it.
I believe, I may have it a little bit off, but I believe the primary election is in March, coming up in about five weeks.
And they have two major conservative candidates and two major left-wing candidates.
And then a lot of smaller candidates.
And then they have a runoff, which will almost absolutely be necessary because there are four candidates that are all capable of getting 15, 20%.
And somebody has to get 50% for there not to be a runoff.
So then there'll be a runoff in May, probably between the top conservative candidate and the top liberal candidate.
And one of the conservative candidates is asking that they have kind of something like a convention like we have so that they can get to some kind of consensus on having one conservative candidate.
And of course, you can see how important that would be because then the conservative vote wouldn't get fractured, even in the, and you might be able to win in the first round.
So let's see what happens.
One more quick thing.
The president of Colombia did tell President Trump, quote unquote, names of who he's saying are the real CAPOs.
He said, go after the CAPOs.
And he said that he handed Trump, quote unquote, big names, emphasizing these are the big fish that President Trump should be targeting.
The proper names and aliases of major criminal bosses living abroad, including in the United States, according to Petro.
And he said that a lot of them are living in Miami, Dubai, and Madrid.
So this is according to the president of Colombia.
He said he gave those names to President Trump.
Don't know how credible it is, but this is something that was reported.
Look, this guy himself was part of that underworld.
So he probably has spent a good deal of his life ratting.
So he probably had people that he can do that with.
Right.
You can see how much admiration I have for him.
No, you don't like him.
I can tell.
You don't like bad guys, Mr. Mayor, because you're a good guy.
He's going to be out, but there are two others that would be equally as bad that could get elected.
And then there are two others that could really, actually about three or four others, which is the unfortunate part.
I could actually turn it around.
And the three or four have to get behind one.
And then we could have, I mean, we could have virtually an all-right-wing South America the way it's going.
Right.
With Venezuela taken care of, and if Cuba just dies of its own weight, which it looks like it's doing, there's not going to be much left of left-wing in South America.
It's going to be gone.
Looks that way.
That could be coming in the news.
And that's the effect of having a very, very charismatic president who can talk to people, including him.
Yeah.
Well, good work.
Anything else?
No, just President Trump, you know, had a busy week.
Like I said earlier today, he announced something happening to do with rare earth minerals.
There's a project he's doing where the United States will be stockpiling and making sure that rare earth minerals are something that we have now and in the future.
So that was announced today.
You know, President Trump is leaving on Friday to go to Mor-a-Lago.
He has a cabinet meeting tomorrow and an intelligence briefing.
So a lot of stuff always busy here, even in the snow and the ice.
It's freezing cold in Washington, D.C. Very lucky that you're not here right now.
Everybody's cold.
Believe it or not, I'm sure it's not as bad.
It's pretty freezing cold in Palm Beach.
It's very fast.
I could only imagine.
Of course, but it's like at freezing.
Yeah.
So 34, 35.
So is he having a meeting down here over the weekend?
Does he have a meeting coming up?
I don't believe so, but I do believe he has some events that he's attending at Mar-a-Lago over the weekend.
He'll be staying there and then coming back to Washington, D.C. on Sunday night, as always.
Another busy weekend.
Okay.
Well, we'll be talking during the week.
Thank you.
Thank you, Kara.
Good job.
Well, we'll take a short break and we'll be right back.
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Well, welcome back to the Rudy Giuliani Show on Lindell TV.
Maybe our foremost common sense well-known intellectual in America is Victor Davis Hansen, who you see often on Fox and Newsmax and elsewhere.
And he writes prolifically for anybody that will take his very, very brilliant writings.
And his base of operations is Stanford.
But in some ways, there are an awful lot of people that are brilliant in what they've been writing and doing.
But he maybe summarizes it the best.
And he has a very good article today raising an issue that you might find hard to just accept, but I don't think you will if you just think about it.
From the beginning of this movement toward sanctuary cities, and sometime I'll trace the real beginning of it.
I mean, I understand it from when it was a benign and a concept acceptable to the federal government.
In fact, in my role as Associate Attorney General, there were times I accepted it.
But it had nothing to do with, first of all, it had nothing to do with protecting criminals.
Right.
And it had nothing to do really, ultimately, with protecting the illegal who came into the United States.
It had to do with the most really onerous collateral consequences of it to people who would otherwise be hurt by the presence of so many, the inability of the federal government to expel or deport.
So here is the example.
400,000 illegals in New York during roughly that, during most of the time I was a U.S. attorney and mayor.
So that's a 12-year period, 13, 14-year period.
Oh, maybe it was 4,500 or 3,700 or, you know, 370,000, something like that.
Here's the problem.
The federal government, including the federal government I was in charge of under President Trump, the best they ever did in deportations there were about 2,000.
No matter how much you fought for more judges and more this and more that, that's the most you could get.
And there's only a certain amount that four or five judges can do.
So what did that mean?
That means that any sensible mayor, Republican or Democrat, and in those days we didn't have communists like DeBasio and whatever this guy is, an Islamic extremist and communist that we have there now.
They had to recognize the fact that you were stuck.
Let's call it 400,000.
You were stuck with 398,000 illegals, no matter what you did, because the power, and we recognize the federal power, superior power under the supremacy cause of the federal government to deport is only with the federal government.
New York City can't go hire 50 judges and deport people.
I would have, if I could have.
So you have to come to a conclusion.
What do I do with these 398,000 that's left over?
Well, I mean, the simple solution that my predecessors came to and I came to, and maybe I came to it with more enthusiasm than they did because I saw it as a U.S. attorney, is to concentrate on the criminals, the extra criminals, the ones who committed and the most serious ones, part of the career criminal program.
So I wasn't going to waste a precious deportation slot on some guy who was working in the bank of a restaurant for 10 years.
I was going to waste it or use it on a drug dealer or a rapist or this or that or another.
Now, maybe I was in a little better position to put together a program like that because I have been chasing all of them for five or six years as a U.S. attorney.
And with Bratton, I developed a Comstat system that could identify them precisely and a career criminal program that pulled in a lot of them.
But here's where Sanctuary City started.
Oh, gosh, maybe in the 70s or 80s.
Here's where it started.
Because you had so many left behind, mayors, including mayors of New York, and it may go back before go back to Lindsay or I kind of tend to think it was Koch.
Conscience was the one I dealt with when I was in the Justice Department.
And here was the deal.
If you were illegal and you put your child in school, we didn't have you prove that you were legal to put your child in school.
And here's the reason we did that was we didn't want the children of 390,000 illegals running around the streets of the city, uncontrolled, unsupervised.
That would have taken a population that had its criminal elements, but as is not true now, but was true then, that was less as a percentage than our naturalized and born here Americans.
In other words, they had less crime.
They would probably have forced them into more crime.
That wouldn't have been too smart since we can't get rid of them.
Number two, if they reported and were responsible for the arrest of criminals, mostly drug dealers, because that's the areas where they were being exploited, we would not turn them in as witnesses.
And then if they turned out to be really effective witnesses, we might even become advocates for their being regularized.
And third, if they came into a hospital with a serious illness, a truly serious illness, not, you know, check on my cold or take care of my diabetes or like they've been shot.
We're not going to say, show me your papers or you let you die here.
So that was it.
If in that process of that, somehow we found out you were wanted for a crime, we turned you over.
We uniformly turned over people with detainers to such an extent that ICE existed at our jails, thrown out by the communists, by the way, recently.
In other words, your ICE agents, in those days, immigration agents, I'm sorry, immigration agents, they would work at our jails, particularly Rikers Island.
And when a guy who had just spent six years for rape, but was deportable to Columbia came out, he never saw outside of the prison.
So that in the interim, he can rape three or four more people like he can do now in New York, in Minnesota.
Just that alone to me is indefensible, inhumane, indecent.
You should be impeached at a minimum and arrested and prosecuted as an accessory.
Like these judges who let them out, like let out rapists when they should be turned over to ICE.
And that's where it started.
When, I don't know when, I was out of office by the time the breakdown occurred, and it switched very subtly from the federal government agreeing that there are certain things that would be silly to waste their resources on.
But I don't know if it, I can't imagine they ever agreed to not turning over criminals.
Now, could they have done that in the lawless Obama administration or the lawless Biden administration?
Yeah, they could have.
So now it's something totally different.
Now, I believe it's completely against the law.
I believe it's an obstruction of the federal criminal laws that violate about 10 different statutes.
Victor Hanson-Davis describes it as something that we haven't seen in this country since the Democrat Party came up with the idea of secession.
He said they have effectively seceded from the Union and do not believe that they can be required to follow a law they disagree with that's a law of the federal government.
The southern states disagreed with slavery.
They were not going to agree with it.
They would agree with every other law, but not that one.
Minnesota disagrees with the immigration laws and will not enforce them.
Now, the immigration law says, you may not like it, but here's what it says.
Just like the people in the South didn't like any law that said you can't have slaves.
It says that if you enter this country and you don't properly present yourself, or you enter this country, get a visa and stay over, to the extent you don't have your papers, in either case, you're illegal and you are subject to immediate deportation.
That's what the law says.
And if agents are required to enforce that law, you only can relieve them of that burden, not by frightening them with these squads and trying to run into them with seven-ton trucks and getting into fights with them while you have a loaded gun.
You've got to comply with it and work real hard if you want to do the protesting on getting Congress to change that law.
Let Congress say that anybody that wants to come in can come in and doesn't have to present any papers.
Or somebody can get a visa and then stay forever.
If we're willing to say that as a country, then we've changed the law and federal law is different.
Until then, you can't decide to set up your own little federal government on something as important as this or anything.
So this is the article that he's written, where he says Lincoln and the preservationists felt they easily had the high moral ground of abolition versus the continuance of slavery, nor do they want a North America of fragmenting warring nations in the matter of Europe.
Some that had slaves, some that didn't have slaves.
Something similar is emerging over Minnesota, the South Carolina of our age.
Once sanctuary cities and states and counties had established the precedent that with impunity they could nullify federal immigration laws, what followed was a logical and mounting dissent into the current open defiance of the federal government.
Notice the word nullification.
Isn't that the word that comes from those days?
That their conception was that the Constitution gave them the right to nullify federal laws.
The Civil War was over the principle of the Union, inviolable, indestructible.
Once put together, can't get out of it.
Otherwise, it becomes a shifting, changing country that would surely be in the ash sheep of history.
And our greatest president, Abraham Lincoln, made that point, but that point was made with the loss of 700 or 800,000 American lives, 400,000 of them being people fighting to abolish slavery, who get almost no credit for that anymore by the left wing.
If you are going to condemn the United States for slavery, you have to make heroes, particularly of the white men who had theoretically nothing to gain from this except a great country, who gave up their lives and their future and any family and descendants in order to free the black men.
You say, well, not all of them did that.
But many of them did.
You might recall that, in fact, it was such a strong thing that Lincoln did the Emancipation Proclamation to rejuvenate the morale of the Northern Army because they started to doubt whether they were fighting to free the slaves.
And when he did that, they marched straight to victory.
So it is really unbelievably insidious, ignorant reading of history that the vast majority of those white soldiers were driven by anything stronger than the wonderful moral feeling that you're fighting for the freedom of human beings.
After all, that's what they were taught as Christians.
Slavery defies Catholic and Protestant Christian theology.
All men are created equal.
That doesn't derive from political philosophy.
It derives from the first book of Genesis, doesn't it?
That God made us in his image and likeness.
The first book of Genesis, also Justice Jackson, does tell you the difference between men and women.
And God, not me or a Republican, tells us there are really only two genders.
I created the men and women.
And then he emphasizes it again by saying, men and women, I created them.
He probably knew people like you were going to come along, and he would have to emphasize that there really are only two genders.
Now, that's been around for 3,000 plus years.
And all during that 3,000 plus years, even the most illiterate could tell the difference between men and women.
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Now, what does it say if you are on the Supreme Court and you can't, are you illiterate?
Stupid, uneducated, or have a, or does it portray a truly anti-Western, anti-American, strong philosophy and feeling that you're willing to act on with incredibly stupid Supreme Court decisions?
I don't know.
I thought she should have been disqualified as a federal judge when she couldn't define a woman.
I mean, if you can't define a woman, it's like the kids who graduate from college on Can't Ed.
Right.
Well, Victor, I hope you're interviewed on this.
Maybe we should try to get Victor and interview him on this and see if he can draw this out a bit.
Although, I mean, it's quite powerful in the concise way in which it's written, but there are a lot of questions that can be brought up about it.
And it kind of gives you a sense of how consequential the period of time that we're in where what they're doing with these sanctuary cities at the extreme at which they're operating them now is in fact setting up an opportunity to split our government apart.
And you ask me, well, why?
Well, ultimately, it gets back to the brainwashing that they have been subjected to, some of whom consciously accept it, some of whom don't realize it by the communists.
Minnesota, Minnesota has totally thrown aside reason.
It doesn't exist anymore.
And that is an objective of Marxism.
And it's one where you can check off the box.
They have succeeded in that.
And I guess the elections this year will determine if that insanity has spread to the entire state of Minnesota.
But it didn't last.
Well, I mean, Trump lost it, but he lost it kind of close, right?
Excuse me.
Now, how does Minnesota break down politically other than on this issue?
I mean, I know they have a Chinese communist governor.
They have a teenage-minded, silly, cowardly mayor in Minnesota.
They got a couple more of those all around the state.
I don't think St. Paul's too much better.
But would the state vote for all this?
I mean.
So that's going to be what we have to see.
They are actually, it's a better move for them than having everything be focused on all of the fraud that has been taking place.
So they would probably prefer this to the fraud.
Of course.
Do you think they manipulated this?
I mean, they needed the, from their point of view, the good fortune of somebody getting killed.
But, you know, think about it.
They were trolling around for this before.
I don't know if there were, we kind of looked and see if there were some others that we didn't pick up.
But the big one was when they tried to make a big deal out of the five-year-old that was arrested and then that backfired on him because he wasn't arrested.
He was given up by the so they were going for that one.
They were going for that one as a way of getting off the fraud.
They were hoping they get a big national.
That's why probably when the good situation occurred, they were all ready to operate.
They probably were getting ready on that one.
Yes.
The money was probably out, the groups together.
And I'm told that in Minneapolis, it's one of the best places to do it.
You have to bring in the least number of people.
Right.
That they have their own indigenous secessionists.
Yeah, it's basically a cottage industry.
And they've been training like the good woman and the good and the pretty guy.
We're all trained in de-arrest and all sorts of other things.
And you notice how they fool around with the photos too?
The picture they show you of good, it's about three years ago when she was, I think, straight and she was a kind of a housewife.
And she looks like the girl next door, very pretty.
The one you see recently, or the one you see in the cab of that car, looks like a truck driver.
You can't even tell the same person.
I mean, it can't be the same woman, but they never show you that picture.
Same thing with Pretty.
There's a picture of him where he looks like something out of the Adams family.
And then he shows up and his nose has been readjusted.
His smile has been readjusted.
And he looks very pleasant.
Yeah.
And how do they pick that good and pretty?
Right?
Yeah.
Yeah.
Maybe they think they were made for TV.
Made for TV.
But then if you look at their background, I mean, their backgrounds are not exactly impressive.
He has been described by numerous former associates as mental.
Right.
And she went off for a whacker.
I mean, she gave up her three kids or two kids.
She didn't have when she first got shot here.
Mother of three children.
What are the three children going to do?
Well, first of all, what is one child going to do?
Two children just have custody of.
And the one child that will be by herself apparently has been left by herself quite a bit as she trained to be a subversive.
She was trained to do this.
She belonged to an organization that she was very enthusiastic about.
Couldn't have spent too much time with her kid, mommy.
The other two, you lost to your husband.
Nobody's going to tell us why, because they protect people like you.
They protect people who obstruct the police, who try to create a division in our country so we split apart, just like they protect pretty and try to make them look pretty.
It's really amazing.
Really amazing.
Well, the Epstein case has all this stuff that has come out.
Apparently, Epstein may have had a child.
And Prince Andrew's all over the place with this.
Gee, that's new.
We didn't know that, did we?
There are a couple of people that have these strange relationships with him.
And honestly, as a lawyer, I can't tell.
I am extremely disappointed that my close friend, who's since departed, Ken Starr, looked like he was getting ready to do an operation in which they framed Trump, Wolf being the guy who was trying to snare him into that.
I'm sure Ken wouldn't have done it, but he could have easily played an innocent bystander there.
This guy, Wolf, of course he should be, of course.
The external proof that this guy lies for a living is massive.
And there's also a tremendous amount of proof that he was trying to get Epstein to set up Trump.
The problem is that Trump would never talk to him.
The Clintons are now going to testify.
They're very upset about it.
And they're going to testify.
But I don't know if this is going to work.
They're going to testify in their own terms, whatever that means, which means there's some things they'll testify about, other things they won't testify about.
And they look forward to setting a precedent that will apply to everyone else.
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Well, I don't really have to.
They could set up the precedent that he established in his first term, which is to lie your ass off and get away with it.
Or she did, which is to commit serious federal crimes like destroying emails and classified material and getting away with it.
So I don't know if that's not a precedent.
It's one they can ask to be followed, which is the law does not apply to the Clintons who began as trail of trash criminals in Arkansas, moved up to a good-sized criminal cell in the Lincoln bedroom, and then became world-class hucksters.
And now, along with Obama, the other billionaire who sold himself out, we honor them as having tried to destroy the United States.
Well, on that note, we're going to go over to X, and we're going to finish up a few of these topics, but we're going to get deeply into what's going on in Iran.
I think we're getting close to decision day.
Without jeopardy of some real problems, we can't put it off very much longer.
So pray for America.
Pray for those in harm's way.
And pray for a wonderful president that he continues to have your guidance because he knows that he's accomplishing this with your help.