Rudy Giuliani - America's Mayor Live (818): U.S. Forces Seize Oil Tanker Off the Coast of Venezuela

Dec. 11, 2025 - Rudy Giuliani

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America's Mayor Live (818): U.S. Forces Seize Oil Tanker Off the Coast of Venezuela

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	America's mayor live.
	And here is Kara Castranova, who stayed with us for a little while.
	Although she's trying to get out there to the Christmas.
	There's a Christmas fair and it's Christmas.
	Christmas fair that reminds you a little bit of Europe, I think.
	New York.
	New York.
	So the president was it yesterday or the day before.
	This was, why do you think he said this?
	I think they're weak, talking about Europe.
	I think they're weak.
	And he put out, he put, it's about the same time that he put out his strategy, his foreign security, national security strategy, in which he almost didn't mention Europe and emphasized our hemisphere and defending us in our hemisphere.
	So I have a theory as to why he did it, but I wanted to see what you said.
	I would rather hear what you think.
	I try to analyze these things, but I do think that the president does think that Europe is weak to a certain extent.
	Yeah.
	I think what he's trying to do is push them.
	I think he's trying to light a fire on them.
	And think about it.
	He's already gotten them about a third of the way there.
	So England and France are now saying they'll put troops in Ukraine.
	Now, two years ago, they weren't going to put troops anywhere.
	They are trying.
	I don't know if they're going to make their 5% of GDP, but they all have increased.
	They've all increased their money to NATO, except for stupid Spain and Ireland that contributes nothing.
	All the rest of them have stepped up, some a little more than others.
	He's got Germany thinking very seriously of the problem of Russia.
	So I think this is tough love.
	I think that's what we're doing.
	Yeah, maybe he's just trying to encourage them to be strong by calling them weak.
	The president has some unusual ways.
	And he says they're his best friends, right?
	So he's like, I mean, he's friends with all of them, even the ones that have different political, like Sturmer, who's very left-wing.
	He's very, very friendly with.
	I like him very much.
	He's terrific, but he's very weak.
	But I think he's needling them because he wants them to step up and play a bigger role.
	After all, no matter how strong we are, the more allies we have that are strong, the stronger we're going to be.
	Why should we carry the whole burden?
	No, for sure.
	Against a China and a Russia and who knows who else that we're going to have to contest, these countries that are totalitarian countries, we need some very, very strong democracies.
	And it seems like the only one we have right now is Israel that can really fight.
	Tell you who can really fight too, if you let them go is Japan.
	Japan.
	Getting Japan armed is scaring the hell out of the out of the Chinese.
	Really?
	Well, the Chinese historically are frightened of the Japanese.
	Japanese have always found a way to defeat them.
	Right.
	I know that the prime minister there now, who seems like she's the first female prime minister, is making a mandatory four-day work week, which I thought was interesting because people are so stressed out.
	They're having heart attacks, committing suicide, and having strokes that she figures this is a national security threat and people do better work on four.
	I think they should do that here in the U.S. Really?
	They tried that in France, but they found out that they were actually only working two days a week in France.
	Instead of four?
	I feel like in the U.S., people only, when they have a five-day work week, they're really only working four.
	Everybody kind of takes it off on Friday.
	It would be tough on the teachers' union if they had to work four days a week.
	Maybe teachers.
	The DNC is throwing an all-out fit.
	The DNC staff have to do.
	Oh, when they called them in, when they said that the DNC people had to come and work in the office.
	Crazy.
	Well, it's a party that is totally dedicated to dependency.
	Why would you expect them?
	I'm sure it's racist.
	It's a requirement to come to work, right?
	I'm sure it's racist.
	And inhumane.
	I mean, we have they have Biden did a great job of making America more dependent than it's ever been in its history.
	We have a dependent dependency level where we could be defined as a socialist country.
	Right.
	We got some people not working.
	No, I sometimes feel like there is a lot of socialism in this country.
	Already.
	I mean, a lot.
	So it's something that I think has to be scaled back.
	Did you hear my question for the president two days ago?
	With the pipe bomber.
	Oh, yes, With Jocelyn Ballantin, which I was glad he knew her name.
	Actually, I was very happy to hear that.
	Jocelyn Ballantyn, Mr. Mayor, is a prosecutor at DOJ that was really instrumental in railroading a lot of people like General Flynn and Emrique Tario and Proud Boys and J Sixers and coercing false testimonies out of them, literally getting interrogating them in ways that were obviously not constitutional.
	So now she's on the pipe bomber case and people are wondering why, why this person who is a, you know, is a known person at DOJ that's broken the law and that was really, you know what she did?
	So this is what she did.
	That's so evil and President Trump needs to be aware of.
	She's still the justice problem.
	She's still there.
	She's in charge of the pipe bomber case, the new pipe bomb case.
	She's the lead prosecutor and they conducted an interrogation that was four hours long.
	We know lawyer is available.
	No lawyer was there.
	So she's the one that went to Enrique Atario and said, I want you to sign this piece of paper right here that says President Trump knew that the Proud Boys were coming to commit seditious conspiracy and you told Roger Stone and he told President Trump.
	This is literally what she wanted him to say in law.
	She wrote up a fictitious one.
	Especially it's called a damn lie.
	And she said to Enrique, if you do this, you could go home today.
	Like we just need your like, you know, so she literally, this is the type of prosecutor she is.
	Exactly.
	Why do they keep her?
	We don't know.
	So I brought that to President Trump's attention with that question just to put it out there into the universe.
	Why is this person in charge of such an important case like the Proud Boys trial?
	I'm sorry, like the pipe bomber case that everybody's talking about.
	Of course, yeah.
	She can't be trusted.
	She's going to mess it up.
	So he said, I know Jocelyn and we're looking at her.
	We're definitely looking at her.
	And I was like, wow, he's heard about her.
	Someone had mentioned it to him, I guess.
	The AGA should have gotten rid of her.
	She should have been immediately ejected as soon as President Trump came in, along with another FBI agent, Hornick.
	His name is, I believe, No Hannock, who again, a lot of people came out after J6 and said that, you know, they were being pushed to lie and they were being threatened with decades in prison and saying, if you just tell this little lie on the J6 committee or whatever, we say, and go with the story and go with this, then we'll go easy on you.
	They were all upset about the FBI agents who are being penalized.
	I don't know how they're being penalized for having kneeled for Black Lives Matter.
	I don't know why they weren't fired for Black Lives Matter is a communist organization.
	Its first or second objective is to get rid of the nuclear family.
	It's anti-American, anti-Semitic, anti-everything that's decent.
	And at every single rally they have, they encourage the killing of police officers.
	Also, their advisory board is made up of numerous police killers who have been paroled by Andrew Cuomo.
	Since Andrew Cuomo signed the easy parole law when he did the bail law and the discovery law that has all these criminals on the street, 47 police killers have been released from prison and they're walking the streets in New York.
	Crazy.
	And you know what they do?
	They go and advise Black Lives Matter because Black Lives Matter, one of their prime things is to encourage people to kill police officers.
	Yeah, it's very upsetting.
	Why do they say, you know, pigs in a blanket frying like bacon?
	Every, every parade, all their, all their peaceful parades, peaceful parades where they burn buildings down right I i'm trying to find a parade they've had when somebody didn't bring a parade is a nice way of saying the riot parade.
	The other night somebody had that very famous CNN thing on, with that little fat guy they have at CNN.
	What's his name?
	CNN or OR or, I don't know which one is the little fat guy?
	Oh, Brian Stealthy.
	Where is he?
	CNN was now, I don't know.
	So he's, he's standing there and he's saying well mostly right, that's the classic.
	Right behind him it looks like Rome is burning.
	It looks like Nero has got I know it's so crazy burn Rome.
	And it turns out that it actually was the boy mayor of Minneapolis who had a really hard time eating that Somali food the other day.
	Right, he really looked like he had a real hard time with that Somali.
	But he's a little baby, that guy.
	He's the guy who gave up the police station right, which I will never forgive him, nor will any cop in America.
	I know it's pretty bad.
	Well, I think he cost police lives by doing that.
	I think he encouraged uh um, he.
	Criminals feed off stuff like that, like what am I going to get away with and what i'm not going to get away with?
	And that's why uh, the broken windows theory about stopping them real quick.
	Don't let the, don't let the rally simmer.
	Get it over with right away.
	When they start getting filed yeah, first moment they're violent, let's arrest them for the easiest possible crime, throwing a rock, breaking a window?
	You arrest enough people for breaking windows.
	They're not going to stop burning buildings down.
	No, I agree, they're too.
	They're too uh, easy on them especially.
	I don't even know how you can debate it.
	I I, I took over a city that used to have riots for the hell of it, New York with Al Sharpton handling it.
	How sharp was there?
	All eight years that I was there, he never rioted on me.
	The little fat guy that knew where I would have put, would have right.
	Well if, speaking of New York, what do you think?
	A new governor, uh candidate Bruce Blakeman's entering the race.
	So now we're gonna have a primary.
	I'm in a little bit the same position.
	The president is uh, he's, a very good friend, Bruce.
	Bruce uh, was a big supporter of the president, so so was Elise.
	I'm very friendly with Elise, love Elise and uh.
	But Bruce was an enormously big supporter of mine, not only as mayor, but when I ran for president.
	Yeah, he's a great guy and he's doing a great job uh, but I, I just wish they conduct this in a very careful way.
	Um, I mean, she does have the lead right now and if he can't break into it, then you know, let's get together.
	What he could do is deliver Nassa in a much.
	So do you think he would?
	Would he would ever concede to lieutenant governor?
	Maybe, maybe that would be a great ticket because um, I mean, the way you win, the way a Republican wins in New York, is to run up.
	The vote in the suburbs and upstate Pataki may have actually been down to only 30 the first time he ran against Cuomo.
	Second time he was at 30.
	They usually think you have to get about 33, 34, 35% in New York for a Republican to win.
	Right.
	But if you pick up enough votes in the suburbs in upstate New York, obviously that's nothing come down.
	And you do have a ticket of her and him.
	He'll pull a hell of a vote in Nassau County.
	Yeah, Nassau County.
	I promote Nassau County, you know, and they come out and vote.
	And so does Suffolk.
	And Suffolk.
	He'll do very well in Suffolk.
	She's an upstate.
	He could win that.
	He could win the primary with Nassau and Suffolk, though, if they come out enough.
	That's my assessment.
	I like both of them.
	They're both good candidates, and I'm happy with either one.
	But Bruce is a strong candidate.
	Bruce is a very strong candidate.
	He's not a, it's not just like a fly-by-night.
	Right.
	He's a likable guy.
	It's so much different than the, you know, Merrill situation where it's just Curtis and there's nobody else.
	Yeah.
	In this case, we have two good candidates, and who knows if anyone else?
	I heard there might be a rumor someone else might enter the race, but I don't know how much time they would have a three-way primary, which could be interesting.
	Well, you know, primaries aren't so bad.
	Even tough ones.
	Yeah, no, I don't mind that.
	They really, particularly if you're the more unknown candidate.
	It helps with name recognition.
	It helps with getting your policies out.
	And I don't know if she'll be the candidate.
	Well, it forces.
	She's such a dope.
	I mean, if some Democrats.
	Oh, Doco, right?
	I heard it might be the Stelgato guy.
	Yeah, possibly.
	I can't imagine a Democrat couldn't run against a Rompita.
	She's an idiot.
	Right.
	She's not the smartest.
	And I'm still furious about those wind turbines that they still have come into Long Island.
	So I'm hoping the Republican will shine some light on that.
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	Because they're going to destroy Long Island, which is obviously a big part of New York.
	Well, enjoy the parties.
	I will.
	I'm going to go to the fair outside right now, but hopefully I get invited to the big White House party tomorrow night.
	And if I do, I'll let you know.
	This gives us a chance to say Merry Christmas.
	And we just appreciate so much what you do.
	And I appreciate you too.
	Thank you so much, Mr. Mayor.
	We're doing great.
	She's terrific.
	Yay.
	God bless her.
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	We deal with small farmers because they like to know who we're dealing with.
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	You should know all Arabica beans.
	No Robusto.
	All Arabica.
	They're going to go into the roaster, and it'll get roasted for about 20 minutes or so.
	Oh, my goodness.
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	This is what goes into Rudy's coffee.
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	Well, welcome back.
	So it looks like there are Democrat fraud scandals all over the country.
	Maybe there's an epidemic.
	Maybe this will be the new pandemic.
	Democratic fraud.
	And you'll finally figure out why we waste so much money.
	I've told you forever.
	And I'll tell you one more time.
	The budget of New York City is the same as the budget of the state of Florida.
	The only difference is Florida has 22 million people and New York is 8 million, 8.5 million.
	So is New York giving four or five times better service than Florida?
	No.
	In many respects, it's giving worse, has a worse school system.
	That's a big part of the budget, isn't it?
	And you look at the cleanliness and lack thereof of these cities.
	And there isn't a city in Florida that's as dirty as some of the cities in New York.
	So, and then if we start comparing the state budget, the state budget under Governor Hopel is two and a half times the state of Florida.
	And the state has Florida has two and a half million more people than New York.
	So what's New York spending all that money on?
	So don't let anybody accuse you of being a fool.
	They're stealing it.
	All right.
	They're stealing it.
	The money is there in order to pass around graft, bribes, what do you want to call it, kickbacks.
	It's been part of New York for 160 years.
	It's built into the DNA of a New York Democrat to be a crook.
	I don't mean the people who vote.
	I mean the people who become judges and have to pay off or in some ways make a contribution to the party to the Democratic county leader.
	And the Democratic County leaders generally are not, you know, nature's noblemen.
	Maybe I'm a little jaded because I put so many of them in prison.
	I remember doing an investigation with highway commissioners.
	I couldn't, I mean, it was like shooting fish in a barrel.
	Offer of money, they took it.
	The FBI was getting, you know, the FBI, we had undercover, othercover people doing it.
	They were getting lazy.
	It was like they weren't even, you know, it's like if you have a dog that's really hungry, the minute you put the money out, they were grabbing it before they even knew what they had to do.
	So, yeah, to see a $1 billion minimum fraud among the small or the really small Somali community in Minneapolis is an outrage.
	But it isn't at all surprising, nor is it unusual.
	You've got one now under investigation in Maine.
	Maine.
	Now, you couldn't find anything much different than the Somali community, Little Mogadishu.
	and Maine, right?
	And in Maine, it's the SNAP program.
	So you see, all of these are like, see, the Republican Party is half a Robinhood.
	Do you know what half of Robin Hood is?
	Robin Hood used to steal from the rich and give to the poor.
	The Democratic Party steals from the people and gives it to themselves.
	The poor is then cut out and they remain poor forever.
	Because if you do an analysis of this, we just go, let's not go all the way back to Roosevelt.
	Let's just go back to Lyndon Johnson, the great society.
	If we go back to the great society and we add up all the money that was put in Harlem, Bedford-Suyveson, in Los Angeles, in Florida, in all these poor neighborhoods, in Baltimore, where the congressman before he died stood up and said, no one's done anything for this community in 25 years.
	He was the congressman for 25 years.
	So yeah, nobody did anything for the community.
	You.
	Oh, and he died worth millions.
	Gosh, I wonder how that happened.
	So did Charlie Wrangel.
	I wonder how that happened.
	I can tell you when I took over home, the so-called black politicians in New York had done, there's an Italian word for it, Ugats.
	And they all were millionaires.
	And none of them began as millionaires.
	And nobody else at home is a millionaire.
	They were all starving.
	There's been enough money given to those communities so they could be Monaco twice over, all of them.
	And the money's gone in the pockets of the people they vote for and their friends.
	There's a whole big group that comes along.
	It's like the homeless fraud then became the illegal alien fraud.
	And you wonder why they offer so many incentives for all these illegals to come to their city, because they come with big federal contracts, which are emergency contracts.
	And an emergency contract means a no-bid contract.
	And a no-bid contract means the mayor or the governor can pick whoever the hell he wants, like the guy who contributed to his campaign.
	And then that guy, Matt, that guy, particularly if there was any way to do add-ons in the contract, by the time they finished, the contract is three times what it originally was.
	See, then you need a Republican to come along to fix it.
	You say, well, how did I fix that?
	I fixed it this way.
	I would penalize you.
	I restructured the contracts.
	They put them back the way they used to be.
	I gave you a bonus for getting it done early.
	And the stupid New York Times, who's never run a business, said, that's terrible.
	Why would you pay them?
	Why would you pay them more money for getting it done early?
	They don't work as hard.
	Because cost overruns usually mean in New York City and the New York Times, it's too stupid to pay attention.
	You spend three to four times, three to four times more than you originally thought.
	New York City sold the Columbus Coliseum three times and the money just ended up in the pockets of the Democrats.
	I sold it once and then ended up in the pockets of the taxpayers.
	And I got a committee, an outside committee to pick the best one.
	And not that it was done on purpose, but Donald Trump lost that bit and has never said a thing to me about it, which is why I knew going in that all this stuff was made up and garbage because he knows how to conduct himself.
	He conducted himself in New York in a very, very dignified way.
	And a lot of the real estate people do.
	A lot don't.
	And you get to know the difference.
	And you structure contracts when you're honest very, very differently.
	I didn't pay overruns.
	I paid for getting it done early.
	If you had a one-year contract and you got it done in eight months, I gave you a bonus.
	Assuming you did a good job.
	And I never picked.
	I'd always have a committee pick because I didn't want any argument that I was favoring anyone.
	And then when it was done, I would go over the plan to make sure it was a good plan.
	If it was a good plan, then I'd get rid of it and have to go pick a game.
	But that's the kind of thing we have to, that the reason our government is out of control at the local, the state, and the federal level, you know, when they say waste, fraud, and abuse?
	A little bit of waste.
	A little bit of fraud.
	And a lot of corruption.
	Straight out and out corruption.
	So in Maine, in Maine, they have, this is, they have a large scale theft of SNAP benefits.
	Now, SNAP is food stamps.
	And in Maine, which is a rural place to a large extent, you got a lot of poor people there who are freezing to death.
	And these people don't mind stealing from them.
	In June, a Lewiston man was charged with Medicaid fraud as part of a nationwide operation.
	And it turns out now that they're starting to move into the millions and millions of dollars.
	And it's connected.
	This was the Gateway Community Services not-for-profit.
	And please watch the not-for-profits very, very carefully.
	They have all these nice names like feed the poor, feed the downtrodden.
	Who they're feeding are the Democrats who come into politics with no money and leave like Pelosi worth hundreds of millions of dollars.
	Everyone who leaves that way should get investigated thoroughly.
	They should have me train the investigators.
	Do you know getting them really honestly?
	Like I'll talk to you like I talked to my old prosecutor buddies.
	It'd be like shooting fish in a barrel.
	And the thing about politicians was always much easier than mafia or businessmen.
	They crack, they rat really fast.
	Boy, they don't want to spend a day in jail.
	I mean, so you, I mean, you can crack them, which is why the Comey investigation of Hillary Clinton was a complete fraud.
	Comey knew how to do that.
	I taught him.
	Comey didn't interview anyone in the grand jury.
	He didn't arrest anybody.
	How about the guy who smashed up the how about if you if you arrested him and prosecuted him and tried to get a four or five year sentence on him?
	You think you might have read it against Tiller?
	You're damn right he would have.
	That's how a prosecutor makes a case.
	How did we get John Gotti?
	How did we get John Gotti, Ted?
	John Gotti.
	I mean, we got his number two man to testify against him.
	Sammy the Bull.
	Sammy the Bull.
	And then four or five others came along and made it a really good case.
	But the way you work a case like that is, and that and that's what they were trying to do to Trump.
	And they couldn't crack anybody because nobody would lie.
	That's what they did to poor metaphor.
	Put him in jail and put him in solitary and brought him out every 10 days and said, weren't you the go-between between Trump and Putin?
	He said, I never met Putin.
	I don't know Putin.
	You got it all wrong.
	You think I have connections with the Russians.
	I have connections with the Ukrainians who favor Russia.
	And because of that, you think I have connections with the Russians because you're not only crooked and dishonest, you're sloppy.
	You're a bunch of lazy, sloppy bums.
	That's what you are.
	And so Maine, apparently, this Maine thing is going to spread into a number of other, a number of other states so that SNAP benefits are going to go the way of Obamacare.
	Now, if you look at the studies that have been done on Obamacare, I don't know if any of it is actually spent on health care.
	I don't know if, I mean, I'm exaggerating a little bit, just a little bit, just a little bit.
	How about the following?
	60% of those getting the Biden bigger subsidies.
	So what did Biden do in the Anti-Inflation Act?
	He took the already very, very large Obamacare subsidies that were taking the price of insurance and driving it all the way up and failed to accomplish any of the objectives that Obama had.
	You know, you can keep your insurance.
	No, you can't.
	You can keep your doctor.
	No, you can't.
	The price is going to go up.
	No, no, it went up three times.
	So when he did the Anti-Inflation Act, he moved the subsidies all the way up.
	That's the money they were trying to preserve with the government closed down.
	We're talking about something that over a 10-year period will be a trillion dollars.
	So 60% of those who were getting these bigger subsidies, who were the people in the five times poverty, this is meant for poor people, now five times poverty.
	60% of the people who got the bigger subsidies had misreported their income in order to get it.
	According to the Biden IRS, six out of 10 were cheating.
	Six out of 10.
	That's a lot.
	Then, then insurance brokers who you weren't supposed to even use in this situation.
	Insurance brokers got a commission if they signed somebody up for Obamacare.
	So a massive fraud started where insurance brokers were signing up people, but not telling them and grabbing the commission.
	One guy got convicted.
	I said convicted, not charged. with pulling down for his company $233 million in phony commissions for people that didn't have insurance or didn't want it and didn't need it.
	They had insurance at work.
	They had other insurance.
	They just took the name and sent it in the way they cheat on voting.
	That's why I knew for sure they were cheating on voting because it's almost a habit.
	You get like that.
	You become a habit.
	$233 million.
	One guy signing him up for insurance.
	This is what we're fighting about.
	They did a test back in 2024.
	I don't know how Biden, well, I guess the Oto Pen didn't catch this.
	But the Government Accountability Office did a test in 2024.
	And the test created make-believe fake consumers who applied for Obamacare and therefore got enrolled, but they weren't real.
	They were fake and then started collecting money for health care that never took place with about $148 billion.
	Do you know that during the process of enrolling these undercover fake people, the Obamacare program didn't catch a single one, which means they have no, they means they vet the people for government health insurance the way they let people vote with no identification and the way they let people come into the country.
	Now, what does that do?
	That's ruining your health care.
	That's the reason your healthcare has gone through the roof.
	Sure, sure, pharmaceutical companies hurt.
	And yes, doctors and hospitals hurt, but it's peanuts compared to the cheating the Democrats are doing.
	I don't know of a doctor that's cheating to the extent of 233 million, just one insurance agent.
	I don't know of a whole group that's doing $148 billion in fictitious coverage.
	I mean, those numbers are off the charts, just like the billion dollars with the Somalis.
	And boy, they're bringing that culture over from Somalia.
	And there's nothing racist about it.
	That is absolutely reality.
	And I can tell you that from the UN.
	The UN, half of the UN is made up of criminals.
	And you want to come and check the records of the New York City Police Department, you will see that.
	And then they disproportionately are perverts.
	A lot of times, we even have to show up there and they're beating the hell out of their wives or girlfriends or mistresses.
	Or worse, let's move into, you know, daughters, stepdaughters, that kind of garbage.
	But they come from garbage countries.
	These aren't, these are, these are criminal enterprises, these countries.
	Somalia isn't a country.
	It's a criminal enterprise.
	And that's true of about half the countries in the United Nations.
	They're dishonest.
	And I'm probably low.
	So thank God we got a president who's awake to it.
	But we have a political party who's fighting it like crazy because this creates a cash cow for them.
	It's hard for you to accept.
	And I know it was hard for me to accept even that they're that crooked.
	And you probably think I'm exaggerating because I'm a Republican.
	No, it's the other way around.
	I'm a Republican because they're so crooked.
	I was a prosecutor.
	I was a Democrat.
	And I was investigating the great society programs.
	I couldn't find in one program, I couldn't find any money going to any poor people.
	This is a game, not a game.
	It's a cruel game.
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	Mr. Piers Morgan.
	We'll get to it.
	We're back on the air, Mayor, but we'll definitely get to it.
	That's for sure.
	Well, welcome back to America's Mayor Live from Washington, D.C.
	And we have another one of our very special guests who's on the show nowadays mostly remotely.
	Remotely.
	So now we have her live and it's very exciting to have her with us.
	We have Justine with us and Justine, your title, you know, you're just doing so much great work.
	We're going to go with MRC TV host.
	Yeah, yeah.
	Just seeing you do really good work.
	It's so good to be back in person.
	I miss you guys so much.
	And I miss you.
	I miss all hanging out in New York.
	Now we're all in the swamp, but we're draining it once again.
	And it's so good.
	Kara was right when the most busiest, the greatest time of the year is in DC.
	It's December.
	It's like the one time when DC is just like not a ghost town.
	Not as nasty as it usually is.
	Yeah.
	The parties, right?
	Very important that you get invited to the right party.
	You know, D.C., D.C. didn't used to be like this.
	D.C. was a party town, you know, 12 months of the year.
	Yeah.
	At one time.
	I mean, there were all kinds of parties, and Democrats and Republicans would go to them together.
	I mean, they'd fight on the floor and then they'd go get drunk together.
	Yeah, things used to be exciting once upon a time.
	Even during the first administration, the first term of administration, everyone got to congregate.
	Even Democrats who didn't like President Trump, they would still congregate in Trump Hotel because it was so exciting.
	Everyone was there.
	And then, of course, Biden came in.
	And I spent the first two years of the Biden administration in DC.
	Yeah, exactly.
	That's how it was.
	It was.
	Yeah, exactly.
	And the roads, everything was blocked off because Nancy Pelosi put a giant barricade around the Capitol, the White House.
	Oh, but normal people, we weren't protected.
	You can't walk.
	She probably invested in the company that was doing that.
	And she and her husband made a bundle out there.
	And the joke, Nancy, please don't send the family up to New York.
	She'll like find any reason.
	That's what they do.
	They're just so terrible.
	But it's so good to see people finally coming back because it was very lonely.
	It was like this scene in Beauty and the Beast where at the beginning, where all the everyone turns into pots and pans.
	When the Democrats took over, it was kind of like that.
	Everyone turned into a stiff.
	Right, right.
	Well, I mean, the tone is set very much from the top.
	And when the top is falling down walking upstairs, it's tough to have some kind of tone.
	It is.
	Or when he sees dead people in the audience.
	Oh, this congresswoman.
	She died two weeks ago.
	No, no, you don't go that way.
	You go this way.
	You go this way.
	This way.
	This way.
	Yes, being manhandled up the steps.
	Okay.
	One step, two step.
	Yeah.
	But it's so good to be back.
	The golden age is back.
	And we're actually doing things, accomplishing things, even having a real controversy, controversy about bills and about changes and about policies.
	And like the argument of the Supreme Court the other day was very, very exciting because if they decide to roll back these independent agencies, they will have cut very much into how we are already a socialist country and we're becoming more and more of a top-down country.
	I mean, the government was supposed to have three branches: legislative, executive, judicial, no more.
	These independent agencies have been referred to as the fourth branch of government.
	You can't create a fourth branch of government.
	Only the Constitution can do that.
	And you've got the media too, but we just defunded that.
	PBS and NPR.
	That was basically a separate branch of government because they were being funded with taxpayer money to spew leftist Joe Biden talking points.
	And it seemed under Biden that there were more branches of government than there were people in this country.
	So Justice Jackson, during the argument, Justice Jackson, during the argument, justified why she doesn't know the definition of women.
	She also doesn't know the def.
	She doesn't understand separation of powers in the constitution because she says she said during the argument that you have to have these non-partisan experts to control key parts of the federal government.
	Well, i'm sorry uh, justice Jackson, but there's nothing in the constitution that provides for non-partisan experts.
	And when the non-partisan experts uh, can't define what a woman is, that's beyond partisan.
	That's it's, it's at the twilight zone.
	And what's democratic about a non-partisan expert?
	Nobody selected the non-partisan expert, yeah.
	Who's in charge of picking them?
	Yeah, and all of these agencies exercise legislative and executive power and nobody's elected them.
	They're put in for a term of years and they're protected from removal and they become little potentates, big potentates, and there's a certain amount of corruption involved money corruption, and there's a tremendous amount of ideological corruption, and and it's all in the name of democracy.
	That's just the opposite of democracy.
	It's what?
	What is a communist government?
	It's a top-down government.
	It's a government where everything accumulates to the top, because they decide how much money you get.
	You know, you don't.
	You don't own anything.
	They own everything, everyone.
	They decide where Justine goes to school.
	They, they look at Justine at 12 years old and they say oh, Justine can be a doctor.
	No, she can't be a doctor, she can't be a sanitation worker.
	Yeah, you know, they decide I can't be a doctor.
	Just like, just like in Virginia, you know, the parents asked the Virginia school Board say parents have nothing to say about the edge.
	But what do they know about the education?
	They're children, they're just parents.
	It's uh, they're our children, comrade.
	Yeah, they belong to the state.
	You've a, you've.
	You will come with me a little child or two and we will take you pennants.
	We don't like pennants.
	They step into your homes.
	Yeah, this was, this was Hitler, this was Stalin, this was Lenin.
	This is uh um, Terry Mcculf yeah, the governor who actually broke this issue open beautifully when he admitted it and said oh, the parents don't know anything about education.
	This the experts have to decide.
	Funny story, I went to college with Terry Mikuloff's daughter and uh, she was uh, let's just say she wasn't the the kindest.
	Uh, we were at the point.
	We were in a political debating class and the room, the professors are all slanted to the left, but she was the, the Terry Mikuloff, Democrat spewing, Democrat talking points.
	I was, of course, on the right and you had the socialists, the socialists who hated Israel.
	Uh was very much of a Mamdani type and we got to the point.
	I don't the fact that I would end up agreeing with the socialists on the fact that she was just terrible to both of us.
	That's the one thing.
	Maybe the, maybe the uh two of you had never slept in the Lincoln bedroom, but her old man was selling it, you know, for uh 250 a donation.
	Yeah, what a disgraceful, what a what a disgraceful thing that was.
	So I really Really do think the degradation of government to trash happened with the trash presidency of Clinton, who came from trash and brought it into the White House.
	And in Arkansas, he was, he and Hillary were taking, you know, whatever they could get, whatever they could grift.
	And when they got into the White House, man, they started taking big money.
	And then when they started with the foundation, which is a complete scam, they were taking a fortune.
	Do you know the biggest contributor to the foundation, biggest contributor, is Ukraine?
	Not surprised at all.
	And that's why there's a Democrat, Ukrainian social and such a media push.
	Yeah.
	And Zelensky knows the whole thing.
	One of the reasons I think the president, and he'll never say it, but I think one of the reasons why the president has such a problem with Zelinsky knows what a crook he is.
	I mean, Zelensky is, I know what a crook is, I can tell you in detail what a crook he is.
	He's sitting there as the president of a country where the prior president took so much money that he's letting him keep that could have been used so he didn't have to take money from us to run the war.
	And we're talking about over $100 million in bribes.
	It's why.
	Koroshenko.
	That's why he beat him 70-30.
	He's got all the documents.
	They're sitting right there in the files.
	He's got all the documents on Biden.
	He could open up Biden's offshore bank accounts if he wanted to.
	Can you imagine that conversation with Joe and the Ottopen?
	Maybe he had to talk to the AutoPen.
	He would say to the Oto Pen, if you don't give me the money I want, I'm going to show him the other pictures that Giuliani doesn't have.
	Uh-oh.
	Because I got them in my files.
	Because they had a complete file on Joe.
	They know exactly how the bribe, the bribe went to save Burishman.
	They know all about whatever extra money was involved in it.
	I have one of the laundered transactions.
	And I have a woman who's willing to testify to four or five more.
	FBI never interfered.
	They're even willing to let her stay there and maybe get killed.
	It's just, it's so backwards.
	And they attempted to kill Shokin, the prosecutor.
	They poisoned him, which is their preferred method of.
	See, if it's a poisoning, it was always a Russian.
	And if it was a baseball bat, it was an Italian.
	Yeah.
	That was the way it worked.
	Like the baseball bat.
	That's more direct.
	That's more where we're from, Jersey, New York.
	Poisoning is just so.
	So they found that surprises, surprises, but nobody will really report it.
	Hamas is preventing the food that's going into, that's going into Gaza getting to the kids.
	Even now, even now, they just caught them holding up massive amounts of food.
	Baby formula.
	Baby formula.
	So the babies will die.
	So then they can have a higher death count.
	It's a this whole genocide thing.
	I just did a special on Fuentes.
	Fuentes and Tucker and Tucker accuse Israel of genocide.
	And there's no evidence at all that Israel wants to eliminate the Palestinians.
	They got 2 million Palestinians living in Israel.
	If they wanted to kill the Palestinians, they kill them.
	They want to get rid of Hamas.
	Thank you.
	Because Hamas wants to kill us too.
	Thank you for killing them.
	The sad thing is, is that a majority of people in Gaza support Hamas and they would continue supporting Hamas.
	And you have anyone.
	They don't have a choice.
	They have an opposition.
	They just kill one of them.
	They just kill one of the leaders of the opposition.
	Hamas.
	funny thing is was right after the peace deal came to be, there were videos of Hamas executing other Gazans who, as you said, who opposed Hamas.
	And maybe used to support Hamas.
	And like happens with these extended wars when you lose, they became disillusioned.
	They stopped drinking liquid.
	And they realized their own government was basically using them as death props.
	They're a death cult.
	And I remember the legacy media, they reported these videos claiming, oh, look, Israel is killing a bunch of Palestinians.
	When of course it turned out that it was Hamas.
	If you have a child, right?
	Or two children.
	They take your two children and they put them in front of a general and they get your child killed.
	And you're a Palestinian, unless you're really crazy.
	You now figured it out, right?
	Yep.
	You now figured it out.
	So there have to be a certain number of Palestinians that have figured it out.
	We have to hope so.
	The unfortunate part is that.
	It's hard to separate them.
	It's hard to separate them.
	And with UN sponsored quote unquote education, really indoctrination, young kids, Gazan kids, four-year-olds, right from when they're toddlers, they're taught to hate.
	They're taught to hate Jews.
	They're taught to hate the West.
	They're taught to kill.
	Taught to hate Americans.
	Yeah, the terrorists, their adults, their parents, their teachers.
	They will dress them up in weapons and bullets and put them on stage and have them cheer about how they're going to kill the Yehudi, which means kill the Jews.
	And it's beaten into their heads.
	So it's almost as if it really is.
	They have no chance at a normal life because they've been so programmed.
	And it's with UN education that used to be sponsored by American taxpayers until President Trump came back into office and changed it.
	He changed it at first in the first administration.
	Then, of course, President Biden restored all this funding to what ended up in Hamas's hands and toward the UN.
	And then President.
	A lot of the Somalian money, as the Secretary of State said on Sunday, they know money went to Hamas from the Somalians in America.
	They just don't know the amount.
	But money definitely went there.
	The question is, was it a quarter of it?
	Was it all of it?
	Was it most of it?
	Well, I'm sure they took their share too.
	But Hamas, I mean, if you think about it, I mean, the guys in Qatar are multi-billionaires.
	And now they're paying influencers, or it seems they're either paying them or they're inviting them on these lofty influencer style trips.
	Oh, come join us.
	Come look how beautiful Qatar is.
	And it's so funny.
	The same influencers who used Israel for two years as a scapegoat saying anyone who dares to take a trip to Israel, oh, well, they must be getting paid by the government.
	It's a propaganda trip.
	These guys are going to a murder, flying to a murderous regime.
	And they're taking pictures, flashing the middle finger off.
	They're basically saying, F you, America, look at us.
	And they have photos of themselves with their cocktails.
	Meanwhile, you have indentured servants, right, just down the block outside of their pearly gates.
	And it's just so funny, but also so sad how they just can't see toward the end of their, past the end of their nose.
	They can't see that they're doing the same thing, if not worse than what Conan O'Brien did.
	Remember when all those fancy elitist celebrities tried to conduct that Haiti is great already campaign?
	This was a few years ago because Conan O'Brien went out in his resort.
	Don't the Clintons have all the money that was going to Haiti?
	I think the Clintons took all that money.
	Didn't they?
	Yeah.
	Talk to a Haitian cab driver in New York and ask him what he thinks of the Clintons.
	I would like to.
	That would be a great idea.
	Finish what you're talking about.
	Well, he's Connor O'Brien sipping on a cocktail and he's on a little floaty.
	And look how wonderful Haiti is.
	Yeah, meanwhile, people are being starved, tortured.
	And it's the same, it's the same thing that these so-called right-wing influencers are doing.
	And it's just so rich because they've criticized, rightfully criticized our celebrity establishment, celebrity elite and media elite for doing the same thing for years.
	Now suddenly they got a little bit of fame and they realized if they can blame Israel and target Jews every day and make a career out of targeting Jews, that they can make a lot of money and get a lot of likes.
	They can grow their Twitter profile, their Instagram profile.
	So they've gotten bit by the grifting bug.
	So they're no different from everyone they claimed to stand against.
	Well, I just finished a three-part podcast on Nick Fuentes and analyzing him and giving people a chance to listen to him to make a determination of whether he's just a performer, a grifter trying to make money off this, or he's really consumed with hatred.
	And I really urge people to get it and look at it.
	But I do have to say, last night, and this was after I finished it, it's already out.
	I listened to Piers Morgan interview of Nick Fuentes.
	And Piers Morgan, I don't know if they give awards for it, but you get an award for it.
	It was a brilliant, brilliant interview.
	It could qualify as a brilliant cross-examination because what he did was he had ready all of the contradictory material that he could bring up like that.
	The trick to a good cross-examination is to organize it.
	So the minute the personalized, you can show them, oh, yeah, you weren't at McDonald's tavern.
	Who is that a picture of?
	Me.
	What does it say on the top?
	McDonald's tavern.
	And would you read the date on it?
	It's the date of the murder, right?
	So, but he did this brilliantly.
	He got him to say in this interview, he got him to say, I'm a racist.
	Yeah.
	He said, I'm a racist.
	Then, then, then he basically proved that he was a misogynist.
	He doesn't know what it is.
	He doesn't know what a misogynist is, except women are fat, women are ugly.
	Women are impossible to live with.
	Women are very simple.
	At the same time, they don't work.
	And he's virgin.
	They don't want to.
	He's 27 years old.
	He's never had sex.
	And then, of course, Piers Morgan got off one of the funniest lines of all because he and he's very bitter.
	I think he hates women more than Jews.
	I think so too.
	When he gets to the women, like, I'm not so sure the Jewish Hitler thing isn't a bit of an exaggeration.
	He practically is a woman.
	But the women thing is when he starts talking about women, he gets all worked up.
	Wow.
	And they're this and they're that.
	And they won't work.
	And they want you to do chores.
	They want you to do chores.
	It's terrible.
	And they're all ugly.
	I mean, I still can see.
	I mean, not all women are ugly.
	I mean, it would be crazy.
	I think he was pulled off mommy's tee a little bit too early in life.
	I think he was maybe a little bit abused.
	Well, Dr. Morgan has his own diagnosis.
	He looked at him.
	He said, well, maybe this is better because he never got laid.
	Simple.
	Or people claim he might be.
	He denied it.
	He said, I'm not gay.
	Well, well, okay.
	He's not gay.
	He's never had sex with a woman, never been intimate with a woman, never had a girlfriend.
	The thing is, he never lived with a woman, but he's an expert on women.
	He hates women more than women hate women.
	And you really have to hate women if you hate them more than women hate each other.
	During the course of the interview, let's play a clip.
	He hates the Jewish people.
	He said some nice things about the Jewish people.
	During the course of the interview, he kind of loves Hitler, but he said some bad things about Hitler.
	And he actually did admit there were over 6 million people killed during the Holocaust.
	About women, he didn't back off at all.
	They're just terrible.
	So, yeah, let's play a little of this.
	Okay.
	Well, I prefer me.
	No, no, no, no, okay.
	I'm only kidding.
	A prominent conservative in America has to say about Adolf Hitler.
	Now, what do you mean by Hitler is very fucking cool?
	Because I think he's very fucking a monster.
	And that's a clip.
	I think he's very fucking a monster.
	Do you hear yourself?
	Yeah, I mean, can we all grow up?
	Can we all grow up?
	He murdered 12 million children.
	He murdered 12 million people.
	What is very fucking cool about that?
	Tell me.
	The edits, it's just cool.
	The uniforms, the parades, it's cool as a guy.
	you look at World War II and it's fascinating and it's interesting and it's compelling and it's cool expression of you know a six-year-old when they get their first like choo-choo train Yeah, but at least they're not mean.
	Yeah.
	This guy is mean and cruel.
	Go ahead.
	Play a few more.
	He also laughs.
	He laughs about the Holocaust.
	The fact that it's exaggerated.
	At one point, Piers reads a letter that was written by an English friend of his who is a noted author who lost family in the Holocaust on both sides.
	And it's a really, it's a really touching letter.
	And he's, it's really a letter to Fuentes about why don't you rethink this?
	Because this is so harmful to so many people.
	He actually lost people to Hitler and to Stalin.
	And this guy claims to love both.
	Yeah, he said he loved him.
	But, you know, that wasn't the first, a lot of people thought it was the first time he said that he loved Stalin when he said it to Tucker.
	He's actually said that I have on my podcast, I have him explaining in detail why he loves Stalin.
	I mean, it's a really well thought out thing.
	It's just pretty between, I mean, there's always a debate who killed more people, Stalin, or for him, doesn't matter.
	He loves them both.
	Yeah.
	It's well, he loves them.
	Oh, because they wear cool uniforms and they look super badass because he seems to be searching for a role model, a male role model, someone he could never be, a man he can never.
	And he was hoping that Trump was like that.
	And now Trump just he's against Trump now.
	Of course, because he disappoints him now.
	Because to much of the left's discontent, Trump is actually pro-freedom.
	He's the opposite of Hitler.
	He's everything.
	He's the embodiment of everything that people like.
	And he likes Jews.
	And the left hates Jews.
	And the Fuentius types on the right, they hate Jews.
	And you get this horseshoe.
	I actually remember my first day of college arguing with my leftist professor because he drew a line on the board and he said, Politics is a line.
	You're either this way, you're on the right, or you're fascists, or you're on the left and you believe in freedom.
	And I said, wait a minute, no, no, no, it's a horseshoe because you have fascism, communism, you have Nick Fuentes, and you have the young Turks or the Mamdani types.
	And the same people who support Nick Fuentes actually went out and celebrated Mamdani at his victory party.
	And they're right here, right here at the bottom.
	They believe in the same thing.
	They hate Jews.
	They hate America.
	They'll both tell you that they love Stalin.
	And even the left, even the leftists will call you Hitler all the time.
	They love Hitler.
	They love him.
	And they use the Holocaust.
	They use Nazism.
	It's Holocaust inversion.
	And they always used to preach, we need to punch Nazis, but in the name of punching Nazis, now they're shooting Jews in the streets of DC.
	Yeah.
	You got a little more?
	Yep.
	Yeah, I'm just going to play what I have.
	It's all completely out of it.
	The reason we're doing this is we want to convince you that this is not entertainment.
	This is not a joke.
	This is not funny.
	There's nothing sort of just a little.
	This is a very, very dangerous kid.
	What do you think commits the vast majority of the mass shooting?
	I'm sure it's white people.
	Right.
	So how do you feel about that?
	I think that white people do more anti-social violence.
	I think black people participate in more gang violence.
	I think that's the difference.
	What's the difference to the victims?
	There's no difference to the victim, but it's a different kind of crime and it's a different proportion also.
	Do you know what percentage of white people are school shooters?
	I know that the vast majority of mass shootings in schools in America this century were perpetrated by young white men.
	And I'm just proportional.
	What he had said was before this, which is astounding, that he would not live, he would not live in a community with black people.
	And if he sees black people, he walks on the other side of the street.
	Yeah, we need that part.
	And he does that because they all, they all, a large number, he didn't say all, a large number of black people kill people.
	So what Piers was trying to get him to do was to define a large number.
	And, you know, and it is true proportionately blacks kill more, but it still is not anywhere near the vast majority of black people.
	That's absurd.
	It's how he ropes you in because he'll take a real point, a problem that there is a problem with modern American black culture.
	There is a problem with crime that has never been addressed by the legacy media.
	They'll just switch the races and blame white people.
	But at the same time, he does this thing that you learn in improv when you're a theater kid called Yes and.
	Okay, yes, we're going to take this truth, this kernel of truth, and then we're going to go to the extreme and generalize an entire race and start cheering on segregation.
	That's what's evil.
	And he knows what he's doing.
	He's not intelligent, but he's clever.
	Oh, he is.
	He is.
	He may, in his own way, he may be a certain kind of intelligent, but I also think there's something wrong with him.
	I think there's something emotionally wrong with him, but the hate, the hatred is too much.
	But I think there's something also a little wrong with the thinking.
	Chemical imbalance.
	Yeah, I really do.
	And I'm not saying that lightly.
	I've watched him very probably 50 hours of them now.
	And I used to used to prosecute people like that.
	So this is a hater.
	I mean, this is not even the normal political nut job.
	This is a hater.
	This guy, the only thing, the only saving grace with him, I think, is he's saying the things that a lot of these mass shooters write and don't tell anybody.
	So if you look at their diaries, they have in their diaries the kinds of things he's expressing.
	And maybe the fact that he expresses it makes him less dangerous.
	Here's where he becomes more dangerous.
	He encourages other people.
	I mean, when you can get on television and make statements like that, even if you're rebutted, all of a sudden, a lot of people who are very, very disturbed start to think this is acceptable.
	The thing is, I always get worried about the slippery slope because the left would always use a similar argument to try to censor anyone on the right saying, well, speech leads to violence.
	Violence is violence.
	Speech is speech.
	This is why it always reminds me of the Nazi rally in Skokie, Illinois.
	Back when the ACLU was useful, when they actually believed in the First Amendment free speech, and they were objective, they understood, yes, the rally is hate-filled.
	It's disgusting.
	It was intentionally in a Jewish neighborhood, but we have to let bad people spew, use their speech, so then we can expose them for the evil that they are.
	Because you make a very good point that it almost seems like this is not the, definitely not the first time, but first time in a while since the Overton Window of Thought was like this, where a young man, someone, Gen Z, is spewing this stuff, getting it all out there.
	And it's not just confined to a hidden diary of a shooter, which I think is much more dangerous than when you let these people just spew.
	Then it wakes up the normal people.
	Unfortunately, most people online don't seem to be normal.
	The loudest people are always the craziest.
	But it's, I hopefully this serves as a wake-up call for a lot of normal people to say, okay, there is a huge problem here.
	There's a huge problem with people banking off the hardships and the concerns of young men, just like you had these leftist, blue-haired, angry militant feminist comrades baking off the concerns of young women, and they're getting men and women to hate each other.
	And it's if you put the Fuentes types and the socialists, the Momdani types in a room, and you just completely took away their names, their identity, you just like mixed up all their statements and you put it out on a sheet to like a random person.
	You ask them, did Nick Fuentes say this or did Anna Kasparian from the Young Turks say this?
	People wouldn't be able to figure it out because they're saying the same exact things.
	Got a few more?
	We're working on how about Anna Kasparian who got ripped apart?
	Yeah, we'll find her.
	You got that one?
	Yeah, I don't have it.
	She got taken apart really, really well.
	Which part of that did you want?
	I gave you the, I gave you the, remember, I gave you the article.
	And she's such a horrific, angry, loudmouth.
	Like whenever she shouts into the screen, which is every time she opens her mouth, I think I, I feel like I can see that.
	Why are they so angry?
	Why are they so angry?
	That's a great question.
	It's partially because, as you said, there's something wrong with them.
	There's something in their own lives that they can't solve.
	And the more wrong you get, and if you know in the back of your head that you're wrong and your argument is based in feelings, the angrier you're going to get.
	Because if you'll give you, I'll give you an example.
	I'll give you an example of probably one of the core things that didn't create anti-Semitism.
	It existed for a thousand years before, but exacerbated it terribly and led to the pogroms in Europe.
	And that's Christ killer, his blood be on us and our children.
	So in the hunt, in the Tucker interview, Tucker actually says, in arguing that Israel is conducting genocide against the Palestinians,
	that the Jews in Israel have blamed all of the Palestinians for the acts of a few, and that he doesn't agree with blood libel, to which Fuente says, I agree with that.
	I don't agree with it either.
	Meanwhile, there must be 20 videos of him leading speeches, including one in front of a turning point when he got thrown out, in which he talks about how the Jews killed Jesus.
	That is evidenced by the quotation in St. Matthew's Gospel, in which the Jewish crowd says, his blood be on us and our children.
	Now, and he claims this is like a Christian dogma.
	Of course, he misses the biggest point of Jesus, which comes one chapter later, which is to forgive everyone.
	He says, he does a blanket forgiveness, spent his whole life giving parables and stories about how you have to forgive and turn the other cheek.
	That's the much bigger message that come.
	And it wasn't something Jesus said, something the crowd said.
	Finally, the whole idea of a blood libel is insane.
	It's, you curse me, and I accept the curse for me, and then I can pass it on to my children, and then they can pass it on to their children, and they can pass it on their children for 2,000 years.
	The whole idea of it is insane.
	An intelligent person, you'd have to be a sorcerer to think that there's something called blood libel.
	I mean, that whoever those people were that said that, if they were all Jewish, if they were some sect, they were some Romans and some Jews, when they said, his blood be on us and our children, it meant nothing except they accepted it.
	They can't accept it for their children, and they can't pass it on for 2,000 years.
	And the idea.
	And if you think that, there's got to be something wrong with you.
	The idea.
	There's something really seriously wrong.
	You think there's a blood libel?
	I mean, maybe you think there were witches running around too.
	He probably does.
	I mean, that's what Candace is basically at that level.
	But to believe she got completely off a rock, hasn't she?
	She thinks that the French government is out to out to kill her.
	She like coordinated.
	What does she have with Charlie Kirk's wife?
	Seems like a jealousy.
	A lot of people are saying that.
	It's crazy.
	Stuff she says about that poor girl.
	She released text messages with Charlie from before he met Erica from when he was still dating someone else.
	And she's gushing over Charlie's former crush when he was like probably my age at the time.
	That is not something that would ever come out of someone who claims, oh, they were Charlie's best friend.
	We just don't need people like this defining our movement in any way.
	I mean, so we spent a lot of time in the last four or five years complaining about Democrats who don't have the courage to stand up against the SPOD or Mamdani, right?
	Or whatever.
	Well, we got to stand up against it.
	We don't have as much of it, thank God.
	We've got a couple.
	Fuentes is the worst.
	And it isn't cancel.
	It isn't canceling him.
	We're not taking him out of any legal position or whatever, but it's our club.
	And we have a right to define who is and is not in our club because it defines us.
	I'm a Republican.
	And as a Republican, there's certain things I believe in.
	And I'm sorry if this guy is going to be considered a leader of the Republican movement.
	I'm going to join some other movement.
	Because this guy should not be allowed.
	This isn't a joke anymore.
	And it isn't a discretionary thought.
	You could be for low taxes, high taxes, but to actually believe is blood libel.
	I think we've got to push into craziness.
	It's a growing cancer.
	And you're right, the left never stopped it because they're so self-absorbed.
	They can't look in a, they can't, they like looking in mirrors, but they can't self-reflect.
	Well, this little moron doesn't.
	Maybe he does realize.
	I don't know.
	But in the 15th and the 16th and the 17th century, in Eastern Europe in particular, when they read the Matthew Gospel, people would leave the church and go beat up the Jewish people.
	They didn't wait to hear Jesus say, you know, forgive, forgive them all.
	They didn't wait for that.
	They didn't wait for Jesus' statement of forgiveness.
	Before they got a chance to hear that, they went out and beat the crap out of people.
	What kind of Christians are those?
	Those aren't Christians.
	Those are animals.
	Animals who are insane.
	Like I said, to think that somebody can pass on a curse for a thousand years.
	You're crazy.
	You're crazy.
	Nick, you're out of your effing mind.
	Well, at the crux of it, I mean, the idea that you can pass on whatever perceived sin your ancestors or you committed onto everybody, that is inherently a communist talking point.
	That's how they have the rule of law in North Korea, that you will forever be a prisoner because of the crimes of your grandparents.
	Well, the Romans are equally, if not more, responsible for the death of Jesus.
	They executed.
	I'm an Italian.
	I had nothing to do with it.
	It's not on me.
	That's like saying like everyone in New York.
	I don't even know them.
	They go back 2,000 years.
	That's like if Nick Fuentes were to like tie all Italians with the good fellas.
	Yeah.
	With the good fellows.
	He probably does.
	Yeah.
	He probably does.
	His father, he got really upset at the beginning that Piers was attacking his father because at one point he told the story about his father, that his father in New Jersey would not go to restaurants that were either owned by blacks or there were a lot of black waiters because he didn't like being with them.
	Well, good luck going out.
	So Piers said, well, maybe that's where you got it from.
	And then he got all insulted.
	Don't attack my father.
	You shouldn't attack my father.
	That's a low blow.
	He brought it up.
	He brought it up.
	No kidding.
	And isn't it logical?
	And then he said, well, I was only kidding.
	So who knows what the truth is.
	But it sounds like he grew up being trained to be a racist.
	Roger.
	It sounds that way.
	I mean, if his father, if his father didn't like going to restaurants because there were black people around because he didn't like black people touching his food or something, what kind of there are crazy people.
	I mean, unfortunately, there are.
	Maybe he had his education sponsored by the UN growing up, like a Palestinian child.
	Look, we've made a lot of progress, Republicans have, in becoming a party of all the people from being a party that was considered too, you know, too exclusive and too much for very rich people to have this little creep hurt us.
	Let's play one more clip before we send everybody over to Dr. Maria.
	Okay.
	This is Anna Kasparian with Bill.
	If you had to live in the Middle East, so tomorrow, Anna, you got to go live in the Middle East, where would you live?
	You can pick one city, any city.
	You can, you know, as far away as, say, Pakistan, you could live in Karachi.
	You could live in Cairo.
	You could live in Amman, Jordan.
	You seem to love Lebanon.
	I mean, Beirut's nice when the bombing's not happening and the assassinations have stopped.
	Or you could live in Syria.
	I hear that's wonderful in the summer.
	Well, we now have Al Qaeda terrorists leading Syria.
	Or the Houthis, I'm sure, would make room for you.
	Tel Aviv, or the West Bank, Ramallah, Ramallah, I think is wonderful for like a little, in the fall, it gets lovely.
	Where would you live?
	What city would you live in?
	Where do you think you'd be comfortable in that dress?
	I'm sure it would not be comfortable in this dress in any of the various Middle Eastern countries that have been destabilized by Whitey.
	Listen.
	Are you?
	You're blaming Islam on Whitey?
	I'm not blaming Islam on whitey, but what you're saying is still we destabilize that That's why you can't wear that.
	Did we not destabilize?
	We were funding terrorist organizations in Syria during the Syrian civil war, starting under the Obama administration.
	Did that not destabilize Syria?
	No, what's destabilized?
	It looks good.
	I know it looks good.
	You're saying you can't wear that dress in Syria because of Whitey destabilizing?
	I didn't say that.
	Okay, that's what it's about.
	Okay, okay, great.
	But the United States did destabilize various Eastern countries.
	Are you going to deny that?
	And I went about the dress, and you went right to destabilize.
	So is that why you couldn't wear that dress?
	Why couldn't you wear that dress?
	Why couldn't we?
	You want me to talk about jihadism and Islam, but like why won't you?
	I mean, I don't believe in jihadism, which is why I'm furious.
	It's not just the United States just had Al-Qaeda terrorists.
	It's not just jihadism that is preventing you from wearing that dress.
	Are you saying every Muslim is a jihad?
	I don't think they are.
	Bill, Bill, Bill, Bill.
	Okay, let's go.
	Why can't you wear that?
	Let's focus for a second.
	No, you won't.
	You won't answer this question.
	You know, we'll conclude with this.
	But I believe this is our biggest, our biggest gap.
	And one, if we don't overcome it, we're going to be overcome.
	And that is we don't honestly deal with the Muslim religion.
	We don't explain to our people what the Muslim religion really is.
	And we don't have an expectation that Muslims who want to be part of a civilized society have to extricate themselves from that.
	And they have to decide that they're better off being with non-Muslims who do not believe in killing people than they are feeling guilty or feeling obligated to or in some way enabling the ones who are dedicated to what Muhammad taught them.
	And they have to live up to the fact.
	They can't go around saying Muhammad was a great prophet and a great man.
	And we live by the example of Muhammad's life.
	Because if you live by the example of Muhammad's life, you're going to sleep with a nine-year-old and you're going to throw people into a mass grave and kill them.
	And you're going to go into a village and you're going to pick the 10 oldest people and kill them so you can take.
	I defy, and I haven't got anybody, I defy any Muslim scholar to find for me any place that was converted to the Muslim religion and not conquered to becoming Muslim.
	He was thrown out.
	He was thrown out of Mecca.
	And he came back and he conquered Mecca.
	He conquered the Arabs.
	Iran was Zoroastrian.
	He eliminated his successors performed genocide on the Zoroas.
	No more Zoroastrians in Persia.
	He imposed his religion on Iran was a Zoroastrian country.
	It was not a Muslim country.
	He imposed that religion on them by killing them.
	Hence, look at how many countries in the Middle East are Muslim, most of them.
	But the left and the Fuentes types are...
	By warfare.
	Yeah.
	He tried to do it to Europe and the Spanish finally drove him out.
	But he tried to conquer Europe.
	He may be conquering Europe now.
	Oh, yeah.
	He certainly.
	But I mean, he tried in the 16th century to conquer Europe.
	And finally, at the Battle of Lepanto, he was driven off the continent.
	And now he's back and he's conquering.
	I mean, when more kids are named Muhammad in England than Adam, we got a problem.
	And it's the only religion that no one expected it to reform.
	They're allowed to go out raping people in the UK, raping little girls.
	You can't say anything about it.
	You can't, or else you're a huge bigot.
	But every other religion, particularly Jews and killing is following the example of their founder, the prophet.
	The prophet was a perverted murderer who maybe had epilepsy and maybe he was nuts and maybe he didn't exist.
	Another possibility.
	But the reality is, if you read the Quran and you reorganize it into chronological order, it breaks down very nicely between the Muhammad who was trying to charm people into buying the fact that Angel Gabriel came and took him to heaven and gave him this great book that was written over a period of time, dictated it to him.
	And he came back to Mecca, his town, and he tried to convert the Arabs.
	The Arabs said, get the hell out of here.
	The most generous story is that he would have epileptic fits and they would mistake it for being possessed by the devil.
	And they thought he was a devil.
	The Arabs did.
	These were the urban Arabs who were educated.
	Then that didn't work.
	So we tried, I don't know if he tried the Jews next or the Christians.
	And they threw him out.
	And then the second group, let's say the Christians threw him out.
	And he went out into the desert and he started preaching to the Bedouins, who were completely uneducated, completely illiterate, had some kind of you know strange, weird religions where they would maybe sacrifice themselves, I don't know and they became his warriors and the next time he came back to Mecca he, he took it by killing people.
	That's how he spread his religion.
	He spread his religion by warfare.
	Then Genghis Khan did, then the Ottoman Empire did.
	There was no, they don't have a Moses, they don't have a Peter or Paul.
	They, they didn't.
	Uh, there's almost no teaching that goes on and they don't convert anybody unless they're prisoners in prison.
	And I don't get how black people become Muslims, because nobody's killed more blacks than the Muslims.
	The Islamic slave trade is five times what the Uranian slave trade was.
	Try being a black person in Gaza and you're, you're treated as a more than a second, let less than a second class citizen.
	Uh they, you want reparations.
	You get reparations in Saudi Arabia?
	Yeah, and they have.
	They have certain terms uh, for for blacks in Gaza, for blacks in the Middle East uh, but we've been American, young Americans have been so brainwashed because they believe that these people actually, they are actually preaching about uh quote, unquote, decolonization.
	They're not preaching about decolon, they never mean decolonization.
	They want to recolonize America uh, by reverting America back to the primitive ways of what the Muslim colonizers in the Middle East.
	They just want to conquer America with their, their primitive religion and culture and their culture that states that it's okay to molest young girls and uh, if you speak out about that, oh well, you're an evil colonist.
	Uh oh, how terrible was it that?
	Uh, you know the West because of that questioning that um, that was that was done so well by Marr.
	I went and got out of the Quran the 13 different um passages that explain what a woman can wear and what she can't wear, and they're very, very oppressive.
	Basically, she has to cover her entire body because she can't show any, she can't show her figure, she can't.
	I mean they, they.
	Obviously, if you read the Quran carefully, it was written by a perverted angel.
	If if if Gabriel, If Gabriel dictated this to, to uh Muhammad, you don't want Gabriel uh, being a, being a babysitter for your kid?
	I'll tell you that yeah, probably not, because he sounds like a perfect pervert, even worse than a?
	Uh, a stripper drag queen that the left loves to keep around kids.
	But people have got to tell the truth about the Quran uh, because then they threaten to kill you, but I don't care, they've already.
	They've already tried to kill me twice, so take another shot, assholes.
	All right, so the Deltv Dr Royal, we have got to, we have got, we have got to face up to this and we have got to get the good Muslims, of which there are plenty, but they, they're into this.
	We got to defend our, our people yeah, and I faced this with the mafia.
	I'll explain that sometime.
	There were Italians who felt that way too.
	It had nothing to do with the mafia, but because Italians were discriminated against, they would sort of mafia doesn't exist.
	Totally ridiculous to say that.
	You're never going to solve it by doing that.
	You're never going to solve it by saying that, like President Bush said, Islam is a religion of peace.
	It is not a religion of peace.
	It's a religion of essentially of war.
	It spread by war.
	That's the way it spread across the world.
	Didn't spread by the power of its message.
	It spread by the force of its arms.
	They can't whitewash it with some.
	You can make believe.
	You can make believe, but then they're going to come and bomb your twin towers.
	When you least expect it.
	Well, thank you very, very much, Justine.
	We had a great conversation.
	Thank you.
	It's great having you on live.
	All the time.
	And we want to ask you to pray for the people of Ukraine and pray for the people of Iran and pray for the people of Israel because they're right in harm's way right now.
	And of course, pray for us and for the president so that he has the strength to make the difficult decisions that he has to make.
	And we'll see you tomorrow night.
	And don't forget, go on my ex channel or whatever we want to call it and hit subscribe.
	And you'll get those podcasts about Fuentes.
	And I discuss a good deal of theology there too, because Tucker claims to be a theologian and he's a very, very bad theologian.
	He's got the religion all screwed up and reversed.
	And I think we do a pretty good job of straightening it all out because we have to be rid of this guy.
	I'm not talking about Tucker.
	Tucker is maybe redeemable.
	This guy is beyond the pale.
	And just like we felt that the Democrats had to throw out and have it, some of those horrible haters of the Jewish people and white people, this guy, we don't have to throw him out.
	He's already left.
	Let's stop talking about him.
	We've talked about him enough now.
	He got plenty of examples of what a hateful human being he is.
	Let's let him just go drift off to whatever stupid, crazy place he lives.
	God bless America.
	God bless America.
	It's our purpose to bring to bear the principle of common sense and rational discussion to the issues of our day.
	America was created at a time of great turmoil, tremendous disagreements, anger, hatred.
	It was a book written in 1776 that guided much of the discipline of thinking that brought to us the discovery of our freedoms, of our God-given freedoms.
	It was Thomas Paine's Common Sense, written in 1776, one of the first American bestsellers, in which Thomas Paine explained, by rational principles, the reason why these small colonies felt the necessity to separate from the kingdom of Great Britain and the King of England.
	He explained their inherent desire for liberty, for freedom, freedom of religion, freedom of speech, the ability to select the people who govern them.
	And he explained it in ways that were understandable to all the people, not just the elite.
	Because the desire for freedom is universal.
	The desire for freedom adheres in the human mind and it is part of the human soul.
	This is exactly the time we should consult our history.
	Look at what we've done in the past and see if we can't use it to help us now.
	We understand that our founders created the greatest country in the history of the world, the greatest democracy, the freest country, a country that has taken more people out of poverty than any country ever.
	All of us are so fortunate to be Americans.
	But a great deal of the reason for America's constant ability to self-improve is because we're able to reason, we're able to talk, we're able to analyze.

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