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Sept. 22, 2025 - Rudy Giuliani
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America's Mayor Live (761): Charlie Kirk's Memorial Service was a Spiritual Revival for America
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Good evening.
This is Rudy Giuliani, and this is America's Mayor Live.
And we're live from Dover, New Hampshire, which is one hour from Nashua, New Hampshire, where a murder of horrible proportions took place yesterday.
That's making national news that we'll discuss with you later.
Because it does involve a man who was extraordinarily brave and gave up his life to save his daughter and his child.
You see, we've got a hell of a lot of great Americans.
A hell of a lot.
Well, yesterday's memorial service.
I don't, it was one of the most moving experiences.
And just at the right time.
You know, I've been concerned for quite some time Which means four years, five years.
Certainly since 2020 April.
When uh the government and governments, the state governments in particular, kind of intimidated people not to go to church for Easter, Catholics and Protestants, not to go to church for uh the Jewish holy days.
Oh, synagogue, I'm sorry.
Um, and when they did that, I I was doing, I don't know if I had started my podcast yet.
I was doing ABC Radio.
I think I was doing my podcast now.
And I was like really shocked, and I was doing a show with Dr. Maria every Sunday on ABC, highest rated show.
And she and I both had the same, we were like in shock.
I expected the uh, you know, the big shots, the bishop of St. John the Divine, uh, the bishop my friend, uh, Cardinal Dolan, the bishop in Los Angeles, the chief rabbi in New York.
So they'd all get together and say, hey.
This is exactly what we need, God.
Do you do you know how we got through 9-11?
It wasn't, it wasn't uh the government, it wasn't Giuliani, it wasn't uh, it wasn't whoever you want to give it to, right?
It was God who got us through.
All those people went to church like crazy.
I never went to more masses in my life, even when I was at Alta Boy.
I and if I wasn't going to a mass, I was going to the Lutheran church in flushing, or the or the synagogue in Stance Point.
These men believed in God, and I was so I don't know the right word.
Happy's not the right word.
It's too weak, overjoyed would get closer to it if I use joy in its biblical significance.
I thought the dedication of that ceremony to our great hero, our great patriot Charlie Kirk, to God, was brilliant and done so legitimately.
Look, you see on the screen, Erica.
I don't know Erica.
I knew Charlie for 10 years.
I don't know Erica.
All I see is what I see.
And then you don't know how many widows I've dealt with, how many women I've dealt with in that situation.
Couple of hundred.
This is a great woman.
This is a great Christian.
There's so much to what she said, but I'm not simplifying if I tell you the single most important thing she said is what she did.
She forgave the man who took her love away, the love of her life.
She forgave the man who took away her children's great father.
They were clearly majorly in love with each other.
More importantly than that, these were two very, very intelligent adults, and they understood how good together they would be for the development of these children.
And he's taken from a one shot and he bleeds out by this animal.
Thank you.
and she forgave him Father, forgive them for they not know what they do.
That man, that young man, I forgive him.
Thank you.
I just told Ted It gets me even now, having seen it now four or five times.
What a beautiful young girl.
What an unbelievably beautiful relationship.
You know, I knew the relationship somewhat.
When they had their first child, I said, I sent Charlie uh congratulations.
I just saw this picture, he looked so happy.
I'm a father, I can tell when they're really happy and they're not.
He was really happy.
It's like the completion of his life.
What a nice thing that the completion of your life is being a dad.
You know how difficult that was for her to do that?
Thank you.
That is everything she has inside of her.
But it happened for a reason that you I don't care how cynical you are, I don't care how atheistic you are, I don't care how what a prick you are.
If you don't realize that that's an act of great love, in a concept of love that if you if you're having trouble with it, you probably don't understand.
And you should say to yourself, I'm gonna have a much healthier life if I can start understanding this kind of love.
We're talking about God's love here.
And did you see how it inspired the people in the crowd?
Now I probably, if I don't know obviously everyone in the crowd, but I've I've been working on Trump rallies from the first one.
I'm the one who called Donald Trump on January 6th, and I said to him, Mr. President, this is not our people.
We don't do this, we don't riot, we don't burn, we don't do stuff like that.
They do.
What did you do?
Isn't this last couple of days or week indication of that?
We got the biggest shock we would get short of our great president being killed, and in some ways, there's a there's a pathos to this, there's a there's a uh uh emotional hit to this of the man being so young with so much ahead of him, and two little babies that he adored and a beautiful wife that he wanted to take care of.
You I don't care if you're Republican, Democrat, liberal, conservative, you don't see that the tragedy in this.
Oh my goodness, go for help.
You're not a human being.
You're something, but you're not a human Being if you don't see it.
Well, there are times in which you can take an act of great significance.
And you can rise it to a level like that.
Obviously, you can't see up there that fire.
You can rise it to a level like that, right?
And the reality is that's what she did.
She got many people in that audience, even if it was for a few minutes, but it may last, including for me.
She got them to think differently.
Erica.
That's what Jesus used to do.
Huh.
He went around, he went around, he went around the cotton the confines of Judea and Samaria, and with his actions with his with his preaching and his parables and his miracles and his courage and the love that he showed.
He shook people up to begin to see God.
We can't subject God to all the proof that we subject logical, more logical human version ideas.
A lot of which aren't all that logical and aren't all that accepted, but we accept them.
When we go beyond to the area we don't understand, which is the spiritual area.
We don't have that gift, we don't have that capacity.
Things happen in this universe that are beyond us, that we do not understand.
Now you you may, if you're uh uh just a uh a die in the wool hateful kind of atheist, you're gonna say, well, you know, that's of course that's true, but it's gonna take us time to understand it.
It's two thousand years ago there were things we don't understand, a little more knowledge we understand it.
Okay, okay, okay, I got it.
But I gotta tell you, take the warning of a far wiser man, which is you just fell into the you fell into the you fell into the Marx trap, the Satan trap, uh the trap that created original sin.
And that is that uh I'm not gonna accept anybody smarter than me, even if we call him God.
So we we we can go back, and Charlie was enormously well-versed in this, you know that, and it's the core of our Western civilization wisdom, which is why it he was so powerful, because somewhere in you, if you're a product of Western civilization, all the things I'm talking about exist.
So the explain the creation of the world.
And we don't, and we don't scientifically prove it.
If we can't scientifically prove it, what other realm is there?
And then here's where faith and God and the and the signs that God gives us begin to shape what we're doing.
And I'm gonna tell you, because this is a quite a statement, and I'm not making it lightly.
What she did last night is a sign.
God guided her to do that, God gave her the strength to do that.
You you you can watch this woman struggling with it.
She didn't want to forgive him.
That audience didn't want her to forgive him.
I bet those people that rose up, half of them probably agreed with her, and the other half just respected her for being better than them because they couldn't do it.
Confession.
Father.
I won't tell you my confessor because he might go question him, but I'm talking to him now.
I'm not there yet.
Get my hand on this guy.
I don't know what the hell I do to him.
No, I've been with too many murderers, and I'm I'm exaggerating that for a fact.
I know what I would do with him.
Uh, but would I let him off the hook?
No.
And I am legitimate about the fact that we have to have different reactions.
I don't mean me now as a citizen, but if I were the prosecutor, I can't forgive everybody.
I've got to hold them accountable for the crimes they committed so they don't hurt more of God's people.
So when the president disagrees with her respectfully, the better President better disagree with her.
We're gonna have a lot of murderers running around like we do in Democrat cities.
Right.
And uh she was able to marshal her anger very quickly.
So Robert Kennedy forgave uh the guy who killed his father.
Some of his family did, some of his family didn't, which has created a rift in the family.
But that took 20 years, and I I can see either point of view on that.
I can understand that.
I'm a prosecutor.
Now I don't forgive all that easily.
But I understand that.
I understand what my Lord and Savior was teaching me.
I've got to have it in my heart.
But when you're a government official, it's just a little more complicated.
Because you're acting for so many, and we don't know yet what really works and what doesn't work to protect human life.
We know a lot of it, but on this very deep, deep subject of homicide.
And particularly when we start getting homicide into the area of mental illness, mental aberration.
You know, there's a there's a great person to read about this that is not a scientist, not a psychiatrist, not all hung up in the different ways of analyzing this.
And I spent a lot of time reading about this, and that's Fyodor Dostoevsky.
He's a great novelist, probably wrote one of the greatest novels ever, Crime and Punishment, and then about four or five of them, pretty close to the greatest.
I don't care if you're Russian, German, English, there's some great English translations of it.
Probably you can't get the power of Joy Stoevsky other than in Russian, because I've had Russians read to me some of the parts of it that I really like in Russian, and wow, it knocks you out of your chair.
But Dorsaevsky was an anti-communist at a time in which the Bolsheviks were taken over, and he saw something about communism, which I think is brilliant.
He saw the fact that they were going to excuse crime, that they were gonna help create the Chicago's and the New Yorks and the Washingtons and the they could infiltrate a party if they have done so successfully with the Democratic Party.
These people were gonna do what you you you can't figure out why they do it.
Why do they let all these criminals out?
Because they're supposed to create chaos, so that we go we we change our form of government, and we become a one-nation government, and you say, Oh, that's but they hate us.
Why do they want to burn Abraham Lincoln and and uh and George Washington and Thomas Jefferson if they don't hate us?
It really isn't they hate us, we're in their way.
So they'll come up with any excuse, any reason.
The the atrocities of our American founding fathers with regard to slavery, pale in comparison to what the Islamics did to the black people.
And We have black uh Islam.
None of those people who invented black Islam ever get ever gave a thought to the fact that no one has killed more black people than the Islamics.
Or for a longer period.
Well the memorial service yesterday, I hope you watched it was riveting.
I found much of it enormously interesting, but I found the concentrations on God of the worldly.
And one of the most spiritual exercises America has ever gone through.
I don't know the impact of it completely.
You don't know that until a year from now.
I'd be very disappointed if the impact wasn't very profound.
Leading a lot of people back to God before the memorial.
Without apology.
There you go, please play it.
They've heard enough.
Yeah, he did what was right for our nation.
And so on that terrible day, September 10th, 2025, our greatest evangelist for American Liberty became immortal.
He's a martyr now for American freedom.
I know I speak for everyone here today when I say that none of us will ever forget Charlie Kirk.
And neither now will history.
And as much as it was an important part of my life, I have talked more about Jesus Christ in the past two weeks than I have my entire time in public life.
His deep belief...
One of the things he wants us to take away from this, from all of this, is the following.
His deep belief that we were all created, every single one of us, before the beginning of time, by the hands of the God of the universe, an all-powerful God, who loved us and created us for the purpose of living with him in eternity.
But then sin entered the world and separated us from our Creator.
And so God took on the form of a man and came down and lived among us.
And he suffered like men.
And he died like a man.
But on the third day he rose, unlike any mortal man.
And then, and to prove any doubters wrong, he ate with his disciples so they could see and they touched his wounds.
He didn't rise as a ghost or as a spirit, but his flesh.
And then he rose to the heaven, but he promised he would return, and he will.
And when he returns, because he took on that death, because he carried that cross, we were freed from the sin that separated us from him.
And when he returns, there will be a new heaven and a new earth, and we will all be together, and we are going to have a great reunion there again with Charlie and all the people we love.
Thank you and God bless you.
This is not a political war.
It's not even a cultural war.
It's a spiritual war.
Faith and family first.
There is a God, and as Charlie would say, it is not us.
We're sinners saved only by grace in need of the gospel.
You see, we always did need less government.
But what Charlie understood and infused into his movement is we also needed a lot more God.
Boy, did that have to be said for a long long time.
Pete.
Marco.
That was a brilliant exposition of the core truth of the Christian religion.
Mr. President, your acknowledgement that he's in a different category.
Martyr is a is a person that dies for his face.
Not just his country, that's a patriot.
Well, he's sure a patriot.
But he's a martyr too.
You you you You've understood for a much longer time than people realize the spiritual realm in which we live.
You've known it since I've known you.
But it's developed in a way in which you, much like JD said, and me, for that matter, are much more comfortable about talking about it now.
And it also, I think, and this is an interpretation, and excuse me if I'm being too personal.
I think what happened to you brought you to God big time.
And I think what happened now to your good friend, you love this man.
Charlie Kirk.
I know what it would do to me.
I can look in your eyes and I can tell what it's doing to you.
Mr. President, you you moved your neck, didn't you?
You're alive.
Young Charlie.
31 years old.
Two beautiful children, a wife that I don't know, like an angel.
Loved him without limit.
He loved her without limit.
You could look in his eyes and see he loved being a father, Mr. President, like you do.
But you've had seven, how long old is the president?
79?
You've had 79 years of life.
My goodness, one of the most consequential lives in the history of America.
I've had 81 years of life.
Not as consequential, maybe, but pretty good.
This man was cut off from what we were able to do at 35, you know, 40, 45, 50, that's when I was mayor.
We never got to see what Charlie had to contribute.
Might have been more than you or me, who knows.
I'm ready to accept that.
Is that a tragedy?
I don't know.
I don't know if I could stop crying about that.
On the other hand, did what happened yesterday?
Did it ignite what I'm hoping it did?
When they say a revival, I want to put it in capital letters, neon lights, and did it shake us back into understanding we have to rely on him.
We don't understand everything.
We don't know everything.
We do need help.
We've got to use our minds to figure out what's required of us.
And then we got to be honest about it.
And we have to forget we gotta make more money or less money.
Oh many people can we save?
How many people can we help?
Can we deliver our people from the unbelievable threat of communism?
How many of our people have become communists?
Gosh, oh my, I have a poll here that young people are more socialist than anything else.
I don't know if I believe it.
It comes from a socialist organization.
But maybe then I get to see certain kinds of kids, like the ones that Charlie.
You know, I have an awful lot of kids coming up to me saying they understand, they see it, they love.
But then I don't know if I get to see everything.
I mean, I'm I'm I'm extraordinarily realistic about this.
I gotta I have to make a point about a man that I know.
I wouldn't think of him necessarily as being this heavily affected by this.
I like this man very much, by the way, so is my son.
His name is Lefty.
That could sound like a gangster in the 1930s, right?
I'm lefty.
I'm I'm not gonna shoot you.
No.
Lefty is lefty is one of the greatest golfers of all time, Phil Mickelson.
And he's a lefty golfer.
About the only one who could compete, not always win.
Yeah.
But could compete and occasionally win with Tiger Woods, which is a hell of a thing to say.
Nobody ever better than Tiger Woods.
Maybe Jack.
But you can't tell because they were in different eras.
They use different equipment, different balls.
It's a little like it's a little like comparing Joe Lewis, Rocky Marciano, and um Tyson.
And and no, not about all knock Tyson out.
He was too small.
Cassius Clay.
You got it.
Cassius Clay may have knocked all of them out.
Also known as Muhammad Ali to use non sports fans.
Those three.
Well, I wonder if our three.
If you knew who was gonna win, you're smarter than I am on boxing, and you're not.
I can give you odds on who had a better chance of winning.
And I will tell you that Mohammed is pretty close to that group.
I could give you a million reasons why he isn't in it.
Well, let's pick up the boxing conversation here, maybe maybe before the end of the show.
But that's a good question for that's a good question for our uh audience.
Who would win?
Who was the first who is the early boxers you'd mentioned?
Joe Lewis or uh or Cassius Clay, who you got?
Is that those the two choices?
Cassius Clay would not have been able to deal with Joe Lewis.
First of all, he's a different class.
He would not have been able to hurt him.
But Joe Lewis was much bigger than him.
Well, let's pick that up because we have a guest, and I wonder if she's a lefty on the on the golf course.
Joining us now, the one, the only Dr. Maria.
Hi there, how are you?
Dr. Maria, we're we're here to talk to you about the Nashua uh shootings, and then of course the amazing disclosure about probably the product that more Americans use.
Tylenol is like a prolific product, isn't it?
Does everybody use it?
For people who can't take any NSAIDs, which is non-steroidal uh type medications, then we often have them take acetaminophin.
I just caution people to say that today's um press conference was about Tylenol, it was about acetaminophin.
Acetaminophen is the compound that's in the brand Tylenol, but bear, B-A-Y-E-R, also has products that have acetaminophen.
So we're talking about the compound acetaminophen and cautioning pregnant women not to use it, basically.
There unless you have an extremely high fever that is not going down with Advil or Ibuprofen, then maybe your doctor will suggest it if you're pregnant.
But other than that, the data is showing us the research is showing us that there is a strong, they're not going as far to say definitively it causes autism, but certainly all the research is showing this, and we've known it for a very long time.
Studies have been published, peer-reviewed, but it never got attention.
It never got to anybody putting a black box warning on it or anything else.
Doctor, is the reason?
I don't know, it's hard.
For me, is the reason for this money?
It can be.
Pharmaceuticals are a multi-billion dollar industry and a lot of people sell their souls for money.
I hate to say that.
I would like to think people in healthcare are altruistic all the time, but that is not the case.
We've seen the CDC fail us.
We've seen the FDA fail us.
Remember, the FDA is the people who told us in the 70s, put margarine.
Remember this?
What?
Margarine instead of butter.
They kept telling us, oh, no, no, no.
Butter is so bad for you.
Use margarine.
Well, decades of its use have led to chronic diseases because because it has a lot of trans fat.
It is terrible for you.
So we have to really look at the people who are holding on to the old ideas in the old ways with a skeptical eye because they haven't always had our best interests in mind.
So is Robert F. Kennedy Jr.
Isn't he wonderful?
In the way, I don't know that I I'm not gonna say he's right all the time.
You're a scientist, I'm not.
He's not a scientist, but he's got the balls to take them on.
He's got good instincts, I have to say.
But he's also got the ball.
No, but some of these other people would be like, I'm afraid of Johnson and Johnson wouldn't even do fine, fine, I am sure.
But he is getting harassed like crazy.
I am positive of it, and I do feel empathy for that.
That's why as leaders in healthcare or whatever the industry is, you have to lead with values because there's lots of temptations, there's lots of ways to say, you know what?
If I don't go along to get along, then I'm not gonna have a job in three or four years when this administration is done.
It takes boldness, you have to put those values, those principles above yourself, your own meat.
You you really have to think of patience first, consumers.
Yes, we gotta get to very unusual thing.
A murder you told me there were no such thing as as murder in New Hampshire.
You know, Dr. Maria, Dr. Maria is I don't know if the people in New Hampshire realize this.
I mean, the people who they should pay like a fortune for being a for being like a just a natural public relations per you, you can be at a restaurant in Chicago, and someone will come up to you and say, Where do you come from?
New Hampshire.
Oh, New Hampshire's so beautiful.
Have you ever gone to the White Mountains?
Have you ever gone?
Unbelievable.
It's like you're you're a travel guide.
You know, and we should all love our states, right?
I I'm a person that believes in state rights.
I love a lot of things that we stand for here in New Hampshire, live free or die.
We don't have a state state tax, we don't have a sales tax.
You know, we have very, very minimal gun laws, so the citizens can can protect themselves, and we really believe in the second amendment right.
Do we have some problems?
Yes, we have very, very low crime.
Maybe it's because we all carry a gun.
I don't know.
But Saturday night.
You got two democratic senators, though.
We have two democratic senators and two democratic congress people.
It's it's almost unheard of because we're all Republican at the low at the state level.
Republican government.
And you got a Republican governor, Republican governor, Republican House, and a Republican Senate and a Republican executive committee.
We're all that's kind of weird, isn't it?
No, the we we know for a fact that the college students, you know, we have an Ivy League college here as well as many other colleges, and they they're allowed to vote in our elections if they seek residence, as our constitution of New Hampshire says, and that's debatable.
If they're only here four years, is that really residence?
But anyway, so they come from communist New York, California, Chicago, wherever they have a group of communists, they come there and they screw up beautiful uh new New Hampshire.
Yeah, they tend not to vote in the local elections, but with presidential races or or US senator or US Congress, they start hearing the names and they do get involved in those.
That's why we see a democratic uh congressional.
Does somebody organized them?
I believe so.
Yeah, the the Democrat just until recently, the uh chair of the Republican committee here in New Hampshire never got paid.
It was all volunteer, and for decades and decades, the Democrats had the more money, and they had paid people.
We just recently started paying our chairperson of the Republican Party because I spent the summer here.
I'll be here another three weeks or so.
I love it.
It's a beautiful state.
The people are the people are so nice.
Yeah.
Even even the crazy Democrat people are nice.
Yes.
You know, growing up, Rudy, you couldn't tell the difference between a Republican and a Democrat here.
And you never really talked about it.
Hey, you a damn you're a we all wanted the same thing, right?
We we never wanted taxes here.
We want safety and we wanted good schools.
Both sides wanted that.
Changed a little now, though, right?
I beg your pardon?
Changed a little now.
It is.
There's a little taint, there's a little radicalism in the Democrat Party, and the more if you will, normal Democrats are not holding those really radical people accountable.
And they tend to be transplants from other states.
They tend to be.
Yesterday, you'll be very happy with this at nine o'clock mass.
We'll show the pictures tomorrow, Ted.
Nine o'clock mass at St. Mary's in Dover.
It's about three quarters full.
And a good combination of elderly people and little families.
We had two guys right near us that had three children each.
I love it.
The guys were having trouble taking care of the guards.
God bless them.
We needed your help.
The two guys, three guys are trying to come.
We're gonna send Rob to help, but it'd probably scare him away.
We need it with a little help.
I remember my son once to St. Ignatius Loyola Church.
I thought I wanted to get him to school there because of the Jesuit priest, and the priest was going and doing the blessing, you know, at Easter.
So the guy's going like this to him.
My my son has a little bunny, and he throws it at him.
Well, you know, Andrew, you can see Andrew doing that, right?
Well, you know, it's funny.
The Andrew, I know is that.
We got him like we got him kind of banned at St. Ignatius when he was five, four.
Well, he's a he's a very professional man now, but I do hear the stories of him when he is a child.
Do I love him?
Yeah.
So Saturday night here, and so I'm in Manchester, New Hampshire, which is the largest city of the state, uh uh the city in the state, which isn't big, right?
You had eight, nine million people in New York City.
I got probably maybe 120,000 in Manchester.
The second largest is Nashua, which is 20 minutes south of me, and it's much much closer to the Massachusetts line.
And nice area, residential area that had a country club, Sky Meadow Country Club, a former employee.
He worked there uh a year ago.
We don't know if he was dismissed.
What happened?
We have no knowledge of that at this point.
23-year-old Hunter NATO goes into the country club, and it's kind of two sections, one with banquet halls that they have weddings and receptions, and the other the regular restaurant.
So he comes in, he's all in black.
Per some witnesses, he had a mask.
Other witnesses just describe the all black without a mask.
So uh he comes in and there was like a host.
I'm entitling him a host, but there was a gentleman, an employee outside the banquet hall where there was a wedding reception.
They were just about to go to the dance floor to crack the plates.
They were a Greek, they were Greek.
So he shoots that guy.
That that guy, no name disclosed as yet, in critical condition in a Massachusetts hospital.
Instead of entering that reception, wedding reception, he decides to go into the restaurant.
One of the first tables is a man, a 59-year-old man, descent D Cesari, who is there with his wife and his daughter.
Robert D. Cesare.
Yes, which sounds Italian, by the way.
Yes, it probably is.
And he um his daughter is getting married there in six weeks.
So he's having a lovely evening.
Here's the one gunshot, coming into the restaurant.
He gets up to protect his wife and child, gets shot in the face and dies.
Um he put his bot.
We should really he put his body on top of his wife and child.
That's my understanding.
Yeah, Yeah.
Yeah, yeah.
He protectively threw himself in front of his wife.
And I gotta tell you, his wife is a beautiful woman.
And he also put pulled his daughter in.
Yeah.
And he knew he was taking the bullet.
As this guy was yelling.
He was yelling Palestine.
And right now there's no other suggestion, a motive.
But your attorney general, a republican, can't figure out figure out what the putative motor is.
The the the prima facie motive, the one that's the most obvious so far, could be subject to change, but we're afraid we're going to offend people if we lay out what the reason is.
Well, the guy was yelling it until we hear something of the contrary.
The reason he did it is he's completely consumed by having been brainwashed into the fact that the Hamas is a human organization.
It isn't.
Rape women, kill children, kill Jews, eliminate Jews.
What America is doing on the side of Hamas is one of the great examples of how sick we are.
Yeah.
Yeah.
So he yelled at in other things.
Why is it charged with second-degree murder?
Why not first degree murder?
Well, apparently, I you know, I don't know why it's I don't um know why it's first degree, but he did say, meaning our attorney general John Fromella said that there may be more charges coming.
But to me, and it could be I'm misreading his words, but I felt he was a little dismissive of the free Palestine wording.
Many, many witnesses said it, so it's very credible.
But he was like, I think he was just trying, meaning the shooter, I think he was just trying to create chaos.
What does that mean?
Like he's just yelling things for the hell of it, like he literally just I mean, he doesn't have many facts, he's got a fact.
The guy's announcing his motive.
Free Palestine, boom, boom.
He he shot four people, so uh but he's announcing his motive, yeah.
Until we find out that he's crazy, but that really wasn't his motive.
We have something in the law called prima facia.
That's how does it appear now?
Yeah, so how does it appear now?
What does that mean, Mayor?
It means you can disprove it.
It means it isn't subjected to beyond a reasonable doubt.
Ten other motives could come along.
But unless you unless you're not going to investigate the things that are presented to you, you can't hide your head in the sand.
I'm worried, and I'm a you know I'm a conspiracy theorist at heart.
You got a family there that's very anti-Jewish that ran that state.
And did this guy come out of anything having to do with the prior governor?
He he did work, he was the attorney general.
Forget it, yeah.
There was some talk anti-Semitic, it's disgusting.
There was some talk that our current governor, Governor Ayott, was not going to uh confirm him, but the executive council all voted.
Yeah, so I just want to wrap up on this.
Look, I've been I'm 81 years old, I've been at it too long.
Doesn't take me a long time to figure this out.
The old man who got fired by Mrs. Bush hated Jews.
Oh wow, that's awful.
That's about he he destroyed our party's growth with the Jewish community because by the time Reagan finished his second term, we were beginning to grow.
Reagan and his first run had a number very similar to Trump in the Jewish community, and along came along came this guy and Baker, and it was over because the two of them have serious problems.
I'm a Republican, they can't do anything to me.
I can say it.
They hate Jews.
That's terrible.
Baker is more uh uh oil man, Jews get in the way of his making money.
So does it the other guy, he's Lebanese.
A lot of Lebanese Catholics are extremely pro-Jewish.
But he's he's he's the other way around.
Every time I'd hear him on television, I would say, What the hell are you talking about?
Stupid.
Never mind.
So I just want to finish up on this shooter, then I gotta go to my show.
Um, so he shot other people.
Now people were panicking, obviously, and they were trying to get out.
There was a lot of there was nine ambulances requested.
So people got hurt, I think, in other ways besides the shooter.
But it took brave people, two people tried to attack the shooter, one hitting him over the head with a bar stool, which scared him enough to make him run.
He was caught by the Nashua police department in 30 minutes in a residential area.
We do not know the gun, although I have it on good sources that it was a handgun.
It was not a rifle, and it was a handgun.
So we'll shot three people.
I think he shot four people.
One died, once in critical condition, and um I I think two may have been treated and released.
It's been very, very sketchy.
It's been like pulling teeth trying to get information.
So doctor, uh, since you're the local expert, um, what kind of police department do they have there?
You know, I think um, I don't know, Nashua as well as my own city, but I would I would assume they're competent.
You know, they caught the the shooter in 30 minutes.
So and there was a lot of confusion in the beginning.
There were the the first call they had, it was two shooters.
Um, so there was a lot of how many homicides have they investigated?
Well, above anywhere else, and we have very few homicides, but Nashua and Manchester are gonna have the numbers.
Yeah, you don't do too bad in Boston either, by the way.
Yeah, yeah.
So you got it like a completely out of control, nut mayor, and don't you have some kind of mental institution to put her in so she doesn't ruin Boston?
Mayor Mayor Wu in Boston.
I can legitimately say she is a racist.
She is um Asian.
Oh, I thought she was mentally ill.
I'm sorry.
Yeah, she is that too.
She's terrible for Boston.
She does not like white people.
She had a Christmas, yeah.
She had a Christmas party last year or the year before, where uh no whites were allowed, and her staff accidentally sent the invitation to a couple of white people, and she said, No, you're not allowed.
This is for people of color only.
So she's a terrible, terrible human being.
And Boston is such a beautiful and historic city, which by the way, even though Massachusetts, right?
You know, we fought a revolution over taxation without representation.
Our history is magnificent.
It's it's all in Boston, and we tended, even though it's always been very blue state, they tended to have a Republican mayor, and now they have this radical left-wing nut, and she is up for re-election.
I think it was you and I doing the Boston Freedom Trail.
I think you got a picture of it up.
Umites get out or or F U C K Whites.
People should be killed or something.
F U C K Whites, I believe it said in this is the environment.
Beautiful woman.
She encourages.
So what what is she?
Is she some kind of communist or something?
I don't even know how she came through the ranks.
I don't know if she started, I don't know, Boston politics as well.
I know the the mayor of Boston right now is a whack-a-dood, and the governor they have Healy, is another whack-a-doodle.
They don't like ice, they like their illegals, they seem to like the violent ones because when Tom Holman went into Boston, this is so disgusting, Mayor Giuliani.
Almost all of them, they put their Pictures up.
Rape of a child, rape of the next one, rape of a child, the next one, kidnap, rape of a child.
It is the most sick and perverted of in the lowest of all society.
You know what's fight to keep that and put their citizens, lawful citizens at risk is beyond me.
Doctor, it's really extremely disturbing that in a place like Boston, which is the create, you could think of it as a cradle of democracy, and Virginia.
Even New York wasn't New York was too Philadelphia.
Philadelphia.
Yeah.
Boston, Philadelphia, and Virginia.
Yep.
I hear this is a New Yorker saying that we were too conflicted.
Yeah.
Like Sea Talk it.
We had great patriots.
Love Sea Talk it.
Love it.
We had great patriots who may have saved the war, by the way.
Yes.
But in any event.
How do we end up with these anti-American haters?
I don't know if Wu could be worse than Mandami.
I mean, I don't think she's a communist.
I don't think she's a communist.
I don't know.
She might be.
You know, they all seem to believe in that Marxist theology, and they're implementing it.
They've been implementing it in our school systems for decades.
So it's it's just a tough thing.
But we're gonna keep on top of what's going on in Ashua because if this free Palestine, if this kid was radicalized, we need to have more information.
You're gonna cover that on your show.
I am so I hope people I'm gonna finish it 901.
I'll hold him to the exactly 901.
If you don't switch, if you don't switch to Dr. Maria, I'm gonna come and haunt you.
You know, Mayor, you you must have said that on a prior show because I actually got some notes from people.
Oh, the mayor told me to watch your show, and I'm glad I did.
Well, they are you terrific, you're terrifying.
Once they watch you once, I have no problem.
Thank you, Mayor.
Take care.
I will almost, I'm almost finished, and then Ted and I'll go and have a two-hour discussion, right?
Ted.
Well, you're gonna watch my show.
Oh, yeah, we gotta be quiet during the show.
Your show will be your show will provoke a two-hour discussion.
And as she told us, there's a picture of Hunter who they have charged with murder, 23-year-old Hunter NATO.
Hunter who NATO.
That is a this is the guy who was yelling, free Palestine.
Yes, and we can't figure out what his motive was.
Right.
Until he gives us a new one.
Why don't we stick with the one he's telling us?
Right.
I don't get this.
You know, this is warped.
This is also warped law enforcement.
It leads you to not being able to solve crimes, it leads you to using illogical theories for dealing with crimes, which means you let people get away with enormous numbers of crimes, and that's why we have the crime rates now.
Crimes have to be solved based on logical principles.
So I don't remember the exact percentage, but it's way beyond a majority.
So the person who committed the murder is probably six.
I'm gonna say I'll make it modest.
60 percent, the person who logically you think committed it.
That doesn't mean you can put the poor person in jail.
It could turn out to be a horrible set of circumstances.
You gotta, but you investigate by hypothesis, working hypothesis.
Now, if you're a good detective, if you're an honest detective, if you're an American detective, you never get locked in.
I I never thought that anybody that was in my hypothesis, I had to prove it was the murderer.
I might be actually trying to prove he isn't the murderer.
I never wanted to prosecute somebody for murder they didn't commit, just so I could have a murder solved.
My record was too good to have to worry about that.
I could lose a few cases.
I've won so many.
It's the weak and the incompetent.
You can't have them in law enforcement.
Thank you.
Too much of it.
Too much.
Too much, too much, too much.
Well, we got ourselves another American hero.
Charlie Kirk.
You we put up a statue of Charlie, you take it down.
I'll get all the Italians in Brooklyn to come after you like it, like we do when you do a Columbus parade.
But I won't be with them because I have to have some plausible deniability.
Right.
But you ever see these guys from Brooklyn?
You little scary jerks.
Right.
Miranda Devine's column is fabulous today about Charlie's courage.
Oh, there's nothing, there's nothing that you should admire more than someone than courage, real courage.
You know, he wrote to Van Jones a couple of weeks, I don't know exactly when.
Why don't you come on my show, Van?
We can discuss things.
It'll be very respectful.
Jones admitted he was shocked by that.
Ah.
And here's what he said.
But after all the hate and celebrations over Kirk's murder, he decided it was important to share the truth about the young man's heart.
There's a quote.
I'm watching the whole country talk about civil war.
Censorship, justifying murder, Jones told the communist news network.
He was not for censorship.
He was not for civil war.
He was not for violence.
He was for dialogue.
Open debate.
When our public dispute started going sideways, he pushed for more civility, not more stridency or venom.
How typical it is, this is from Miranda Devine.
How typical that one of the last things Kirk did was reach across the aisle and offer grace.
Which is also a religious concept.
It's a pity Jones' fellow travelers like Representative Alexandria Ocasio Cortez don't share his dignity decency.
She took to the House floor to label Kirk dangerous, ignorant, uneducated.
Wow.
Is that calling the pot.
Is that the kettle calling the pot black?
Representative Elar Omar, the one married to her brother to come into the United States, said Kirk's legacy should be in the dustbin of history.
Hey, Omar.
Hey.
That's where yours should be.
You and your brother.
You and your brother.
Well this has been.
This has been an extraordinarily jarring experience.
And it should be.
When you lose a great man for reasons as irrational as this.
Reasons intended to undermine our democracy and our great form of government.
You have got to pay attention to it.
We will.
We're not going to let this go.
It's too important.
Our democracy and our country is at stake.
That is not an exaggeration.
I've known that for five or six years.
six years, as I saw, oh, kind of, you know, when I was a kid, I had to read Dante's Dante's Inferno.
And it's like I feel like I've seen the inferno.
I think Trump and I have.
I you know, I think we saw it different times, but I'm gonna tell you this when he came into office.
We knew it was very bad.
We know it's very difficult.
If you told me it was this bad, I would have said you're some kind of a nutty conspiracy theorist.
Now I will tell you what I think.
It's worse than anything that I have confronted or seen.
I expect worse to come out.
Please let me express here that I am in in in New Hampshire, and maybe we'll get a chance to go over there, Ted, to Robert Dichasari, who was shot dead in Nassau in New Hampshire at the country club on Saturday, as he protectively threw.
I want you to hear this, my friends.
This is what this is this is what it is to be a man.
Not some kind of bully, not some kind of you gotta let the woman do everything you want.
You're the protector, damn it.
Well going back to the animal species.
We're the protector with the hunter-gatherer.
We're not the bully.
They're smarter than we are.
I can look at him and his beautiful wife, and I can see that.
I can see it.
Robert DeCesari was shot dead at a Nashua New Hampshire country club on Saturday, as he protectively threw himself in front of his wife.
Shown with him in an undated photo and his daughter.
What a man!
What a man!
Robert, you're up there with Charlie.
The angels and the martyrs and the saints, they escorted you.
Not like somebody else just dying.
You know, look, they can be very good people, they'll go to heaven too.
You got a special entry, my friend.
You're like an old-fashioned guy, Robert.
You protect women.
Wow.
Wow, here he is.
I don't know.
I don't know if I got it any better than this, but here it is, right here.
Isn't she beautiful, his wife?
Imagine his daughter is beautiful, so I didn't see a picture.
He must have loved him so much, huh?
Well, he's with God now, like Charlie is.
Why do we have so much of this?
Because we have all these crazy left-wing...
This is not accidental, and we can do something about it, which is why I say I drive myself crazy.
I'm trying to figure out how do we change it.
This is not.
Some things are supernatural.
We're doing this.
We're creating this.
Because we vote for Democrats.
I'm not saying that because I want to wipe them out.
I want to fix them.
Let them go back to the way they were when John Kennedy and Robert Kennedy were Democrats.
Deitra Sarri's mother said she still can't fathom that her son is dead.
And.
Of course you can't, Mom.
You weren't supposed to have to do that.
Well, we're gonna we're gonna keep on top of this.
Ted and I are gonna try to pay a little visit over there to get to the bottom of this more because let's face it, this is like America now.
This could happen anywhere.
But Democrats have any kind of influence.
And they have a lot of influence in Nashua.
Free Palestine.
But we can't tell why he did it.
Oh, gee.
you Thank you.
He also shot two more people.
There were 100 people in there at the time that he started shooting.
I have to mention that the United Kingdom and Canada and Australia.
Little puppets, right?
They're in favor of a Palestinian state.
Are you out of your F in mind?
They want to destroy the Jews.
Now I got a real problem with all three of you, you little bastards.
I'll tell you why.
They want to destroy Americans.
If you don't have America, you'd be starving to death.
Cut it out.
Stop this communist shit.
Two-state solution.
This has been crazy for 25 years.
I almost got attacked by a Muslim because I was against a two-state solution 25 years ago.
Except my female detective tackled him, turned him over, put the cuffs on him, and there he was.
I was thinking, maybe I could get some pretty good publicity, because he was running at me, and he looked like he was out of control.
I knew I could eject him.
I knew it.
He's like a little guy, and he was running around like this, like this, like he had no idea.
He had no idea that the mayor had a right hand.
I was ready to stick it right across the head of side of his face.
Instead of like boom, God wanted to see him bloodied up.
I shouldn't confess these things, should I?
There's a good article in the post saying the two-state solution is dead.
It's been dead for 25 years, but Bill Clinton, you know, kept it going because he was distracted.
The UK.
And all these countries that want a two-state solution.
You go figure it out.
I don't know what it is.
Is it to undermine the U.S.?
I really don't know.
I really don't know.
Well, there's a lot of other things we could cover that would show you the perversity of the world that we live in.
But I don't know if they're just superfluous examples.
Mr. Dietcha, sorry.
All of your relatives and your friends.
I don't know where the wake of the funeral is or whatever.
But my God, you're a hero, like the people who get the congressional mayor of honor.
Putting your body on top of your wife and your kid.
Wow.
Wow.
Wow, wow, wow.
Those of us who are patriots respect that.
Those who aren't don't pay attention to them.
They're sick people.
Somehow we're gonna have to solve it to keep this country together.
But knowing that we have people like you means we're gonna get through this.
It really does.
So now I want you to go over to Dr. Maria, who is going to give you more, a lot more detail on what happened here in Nashua, which I see as sort of a microcosm of what's going on all around the country.
Except this is even more unusual.
This is an exceptionally peaceful area.
And the fact that it's invading here is very, very frightening.
And we got a lot of Democrat influence here.
So you got a Republican governor, you got a Republican legislature statewide.
But federally, we got all crazy wacky Democrats who voted with Biden.
I mean, they they claim to be moderate, but they vote with Biden, they vote against Trump.
And they're fooling the people of New Hampshire.
We've got to fix that if we're going to fix America.
It is about politics, ultimately.
You know that, Ted, probably better than anyone.
So our our time here means that we're not gonna forget it.
We're gonna keep on top of this.
We'll come back and we'll go after this.
And it's a great state.
Meant a lot to the history of this country.
It remains still more stable and sensible than absolutely wacky Vermont, which is flying off the charts.
Idiotic.
Massachusetts with a governor and a mayor.
Wow.
Maine, I don't know.
They have governors up there.
They're not even sure they're governors.
Connecticut, man, they really brainwash the people of Connecticut.
They're like the people in New York and Chicago.
Must be that, must be that city dwellers are easy to brainwash.
Let's be something about it.
Now that I'm living here in the in the free state of New Hampshire and the free state of Florida, I think I'm much tougher than I used to be.
Okay.
Well, that's enough jokes.
909.
Go over to tell them exactly where to go.
I know she's not.
Lendell TV.
What?
London.
That's the best place to go.
You can get around Rumble too though, right?
And X. Okay.
Go see Dr. Maria.
God, go see Dr. Maria because maybe it'll help your throat.
God bless America.
It's our purpose to bring to bear the principle of common sense and rational discussion to the issues of our day.
America was created at a time of great turmoil, tremendous disagreements, anger, hatred.
It was a book written in 1776 that guided much of the discipline of thinking that brought to us the discovery of our freedoms, of our God-given freedoms.
It was Thomas Paine's Common Sense, written in 1776, one of the first American bestsellers, in which Thomas Paine explained by rational principles, the reason why these small colonies felt the necessity to separate from the kingdom of Great Britain and the King of England.
He explained their inherent desire for liberty, for freedom, freedom of religion, freedom of speech, the ability to select the people who govern them.
And he explained it in ways that were understandable to all the people, not just the elite.
Because the desire for freedom is universal.
The desire for freedom adheres in the human mind and it is part of the human soul.
This is exactly the time we should consult our history.
Look at what we've done in the past and see if we can't use it to help us now.
We understand that our founders created the greatest country in the history of the world.
The greatest democracy, the freest country, a country that has taken more people out of poverty than any country ever.
All of us are so fortunate to be Americans.
But a great deal of the reason for America's constant ability to self-improve is because we're able to reason.
We're able to talk.
We're able to analyze.
We are able to apply our God-given common sense.
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