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Sept. 18, 2025 - Rudy Giuliani
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The Rudy Giuliani Show: Thursday, September 18, 2025
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Good evening.
This is Rudy Giuliani, and this is the Rudy Giuliani show on Lindell TV.
And uh let's um let's welcome the president back from Great Britain in what was another unbelievably successful, extraordinary reception.
It is without any doubt the best reception ever given by Great Britain to a president of their former colony.
Might have been hard to do, or maybe it wasn't possible in earlier days.
Wonder if George Washington would have gotten this reception from George the Third.
Hmm.
But President Donald Ray Trump got the best reception ever from King Charles the Third.
And it was um it it had both um symbolic significance, it had political significance, and believe it or not, it had cultural.
And in some ways, one might say spiritual significance, which we'll discuss uh uh with you.
But uh we have we have with us who who is um I believe at the White House, so she's there for the return.
Oh, well, she's not here yet.
I thought she was coming on right away.
But if we if we would put this up, Ted, you'll take a look at the president.
That's a um that's the that's the dinner, uh, the the grand dinner two night two nights ago, and that's the president uh reading uh his statement to to uh King Charles the third, which is always a remarkable, remarkable thing.
You're seeing them walking now, reviewing the guard, which you know, for President Trump brings him back to his high school days when he was at the New York Military Academy.
This is all, I mean, some people love this.
Some people don't love this.
If you've been a cadet and an important part of your life, you just adore this stuff.
And they know that.
So they put out everything for them.
And of course, we learned this from the British.
Remember during the revolutionary war, we didn't know how to march.
They did.
We had to get uh we we had to get help from Poland and from France to teach us how to march.
Uh Koskiusko, Lafayette, DeCalb.
They all trained our soldiers to march.
We could shoot, we could run, we could hide, we could spy, we could ambush.
And we sure as hell could fight, but we couldn't march.
And you can see they probably still march better.
Although I don't know.
I've been to many of those um marches at West Point before a football game when I was the U.S. attorney, and believe it or not, West Point was in my district.
And I would go to a uh particular football game every year with the with the with the uh commandant uh the soup superintendent.
That's right, the superintendent.
I know the president loves it.
I know it.
I know he just loves that.
And um so there were a number of there were a number of events.
I think you saw them all.
Uh they were quite beautiful.
They really uplift the spirit of the English people, they have plus the spirit of the American people.
They do a lot of symbolic things.
And some people will say, Oh, it's only symbolic.
We're gonna we're gonna get beyond them.
Well, I fix my um my um bulletproof vest.
That's what I tell people this is.
So there's actually the whole money.
If I take this off, my back just falls up, it goes like that, because I have a broken back, and this holds the broken back together.
And if people say, Well, if you take it off, what happened?
I said it's very simple.
One part of my back goes that way, the other part of the back goes that way, and then it takes a long time to put it back together again.
How is it how long is it that I've been recuperating?
About two weeks now.
Yeah, we're we're uh we're now over two weeks.
We have my friend Wayne uh came over today.
Wayne Simprini was the head of the Republican Party in New Hampshire, and my chairman when I ran for president of the United States, and he's a he's a great New Hampshire person, and he's also a tremendous cook.
We already have been treated to a tremendous lobster dinner by him.
But he brought over all this homemade Italian food.
He said, I didn't think you'd be ready for this yet.
I said, You have leftovers for days.
Is there anything left?
Ted.
There's a little bit left.
Not much though, not much though.
We're trying we're doing our best to make it stretch.
We're trying to get Wayne on the show.
The guy is a font of unbelievable historical knowledge.
I mean, he goes back to the Reagan primary.
And wow, there's such history here.
These people in New Hampshire are very shy.
They weren't when I wasn't running.
Well, now let's go to Kara who we haven't talked to in a few days.
Oh, I had to see her.
There she is.
Hey, Mr. Mayor, nice to see you.
You must have been lonely for a couple of days.
I was, I was lonely.
I love coming on your show.
And I'm here tonight actually waiting for uh that's why I went requested to come on quickly because President Trump is arriving back at the White House.
He should be back around 8 p.m.
So we want to try to get out there.
About 8 p.m.
Did he land?
Did he land at Andrews?
He should have, and then he gets on Marine One and he comes and lands here on the South One.
And we're hoping he'll ask some questions.
Well, he'll take some questions tonight.
Is there anything you particularly would want me to ask the president tonight?
If he does, I'm crossing my fingers.
Stop and talk to journalists.
Well, we'll be we'll be we'll be waiting.
You let us know.
We'll we'll somehow get you on.
But uh tell tell us about it.
Oh, yeah, I want I want you to I want to give I want you to give me your impression of the trip.
How how did it go and what uh what do you think?
It was great.
I mean Mr. Mayor, I I thought it went really well, and it was uh, you know, really a red carpet rollout for President Trump in the first lady, and it was like nice to see Melania having a nice time.
You could see she was really in her element.
Uh, you know, be looked beautiful, obviously.
She was interacting with the Queen, with the uh Princess of Wales.
So she was having a lot of fun.
It was nice to see, and even Pierce Morgan, he really studies the royal family, said he's never seen anything like this, this red carpet that was rolled out for President Trump.
And it's historical because it's the first time a U.S. president's had two state visits with the king and a queen.
So it's pretty uh outstanding.
And uh I have some clips.
This is the president uh getting on Marine, I'm sorry, Air Force One when he was leaving England, and now like I said, he's coming back here to the White House.
So please check out the president a little while ago boarding the plane.
I don't know if we have that clip.
Hopefully we do.
Oh, we don't have that?
Okay, so that's okay.
You can imagine President Trump boarding the plane, uh, Mr. Mayor and he didn't trip like Joe Biden, so that's the good news.
But President Trump also did a a big brief.
There was a briefing today he did uh with Keir Starmer, a joint presser, uh the Prime Minister.
And there was a lot of questions asked.
And obviously Jimmy Kimmel is one of the big topics.
Everybody's talking about Jimmy Kimmel being fired.
And President Trump said he had he was fired because he had bad ratings and a number of other things.
Take a listen to President Trump today at that briefing talking about Jimmy Kimmel.
Well, Jimmy Kimmel was fired because he had bad ratings more than anything else.
And he said a horrible thing about a great gentleman known as Charlie Kirk.
And Jimmy Kimmel is not a talented person.
He had very bad ratings, and they should have fired him a long time ago.
So you know, you can call that free speech or not.
He was fired for lack of talent.
A lot of public debate, Mr. Mayor.
I uh last night I tried to find to see what they're going to put on in place of his show.
I didn't know where to find it, because I've never watched it.
I think he's a good idea.
I didn't watch it either.
I think he's a distinctly stupid little jerk who's not funny at all.
I'm I I didn't even know he was left wing until you know he started getting crazy.
I remember when he started as a comedian.
I didn't know where they found him in a garbage can or something.
Right.
You probably remember comedians back when before they were political, when uh you know they realized that everybody likes jokes and they just didn't pick out one political party, which it seems to be the trend now.
So hopefully that will take a turn after p uh these comedians realize that uh it's not popular anymore to do that to continue to divide the country, Mr. Mayor.
So good news on that front.
That show is right now suspended, maybe permanently canceled.
That's the news there.
And it seems like President Trump is happy about that.
And then there was another question asked about the auto pen.
I think that it was Brian Glenn.
Uh as you know, we broke this autopen story at Lindell TV, Mr. Mayor.
So the update on the autopen, which I know is important to you because we all know Biden did not sign any of those pardons.
So this is President Trump talking about the auto pen today.
Is there any update on the auto pen?
Yeah.
It's just gotten worse from their standpoint.
He's he uh the people that used it, and one in particular one person was never told by Biden to do it.
Only spoke to Biden twice, and that was just uh talking about the weather, not talking about any order.
And he was taking uh orders from people other than Joe Biden.
Joe Biden wasn't giving those orders.
You know, Joe Biden didn't believe in open borders.
He didn't.
I've known him for a long time.
He was never the brightest bulb in the ceiling, as we know.
You can go back 40 years ago and you'll see that.
Go back and take a look at the hearings on Justice Thomas, and you'll see that very much.
Uh but he didn't believe in open borders and all of this nonsense that they're peddling now, which is why they're not in office any longer.
It's uh it's a shame.
The autopen was uh illegal, it was illegally used.
He never gave the orders, he never told them what to do.
And I guess the only one he signed, or one of the few he signed was the pardon for his son.
But you had the uh Congressman.
So he goes on, Mr. Mayor, and on, and I know that you know the president loves that topic because obviously it wasn't Biden who signed those, and the only one he probably really cared about was his son Hunter, because obviously they were committing crimes and cahoots together.
So uh, you know, they go on.
Uh you could check that out that full clip on rapid response about the president's response to that, but it really it culminates with him saying that he does think that people will be held accountable.
So we are definitely looking for forward to that, Mr. Mayor.
Well, I think it's gonna be quite a remarkable trip, and we'll have uh we'll we'll we'll pick it up when he gets when he gets in, and then we'll probably have some more tomorrow as it all sinks in.
Well, we have a couple more clips if you have time.
I got two more quick ones for you.
And then I have one question for you.
So the historic tech deal.
Obviously, the president was in was there to do business, and he met with Keir Stormer.
He had a lot of fun, and it was so nice to see them having fun, really, because this president worked so hard.
But meeting with Keir Starmer, his signing this historical historical technology deal is uh what this next clip is about.
So take a listen.
We have also just signed a historic technology prosperity deal, one of a kind to ensure our country's lead the next great technological revolution side by side.
In fact, we just left the business leaders, the biggest in the world.
Some are in this room right now.
And uh that was quite a uh meeting we had on business and trade and technology.
This trip has galvanized three hundred and fifty billion dollars in deals across many sectors, and we're committed to ensuring that the UK is a secure and reliable supplier of the best AI hardware and software on earth.
And we supply that and we'll make sure we supply it in quantity to the UK.
We also are joining forces on quantum computing and nuclear power, a natural partnership for close allies.
So that was about that technology deal, and it's important the president continues to do business around the world.
And lastly, Mr. Mayor, the president again spoke on Charlie Kirk, uh, his funerals this week, and as you know, that will be in Arizona on Sunday, where the president will give a eulogy, and there'll obviously be high security at that event there in Arizona.
Here is President Trump speaking about Charlie Kirk today in Great Britain.
Can I sign this hour?
Can I sign this?
The deal's no good, I'm blaming you, Scott.
That'd be great.
It's a great honor.
That that was the wrong clip played, Mr. Mayor.
That was them signing that tech deal.
But you could imagine what he said about Charlie Kirk.
It was all nice things, obviously.
And really just thanking the British for the condolences because so many Brits were apologizing and uh expressing condolences to the president because they knew how close they were.
So that was his response to the British people.
Thank you so much for showing you care and for your condolences, Mr. Mayor.
So that was President Trump today, and that's pretty much a wrap-up of that very successful trip that he took overseas to England.
And uh for the first time it looked like he was having fun doing it.
And my question for you is if the president stops tonight and speaks to journalists, what would you like me to ask him?
You know, I believe that he did something uh to uh with this trip that is so necessary for us.
Um remember the old saying, a journey of a thousand miles begins with a single step.
We have to put Western civilization back together again.
The best way to do it is that trip.
America and the great and Great Britain recognizing our common heritage as English countries.
Countries that have an English heritage, a Greco-Roman heritage, a Judeo-Christian heritage, because uh lot of other countries follow behind that.
And uh I'd like to see them be the two great defenders of Western civilization.
It's time for us to be unembarrassed about Western civilization.
You know, Obama hates Western civilization.
The Democrats hate Western civilization.
All they do is teach how horrible we are.
It's the greatest civilization the world has ever seen.
It saved more lives, it's brought more people out of poverty, it's created more decency, and we wouldn't even have the concept of humanities if we didn't have Western civilization.
And the only civilization that really values human life to is Western civilization.
And these two men are two of the biggest leaders, the United States of America and England of Western civilization.
And when England and the United States are together, it's going to be hard for Europe not to follow on.
And now you put Europe, the United States, and Great Britain together, and that's the civilization that saved the world.
And we got to put it back together again, and we have to be proud of it.
And we have to share it with other people.
You know, other countries come here for our civilization.
And we bring up our children to hate it.
We don't, our teachers do.
I would like him to say that I reestablish the bonds.
When we say the special relationship with England, that's not just a trite saying.
That's a thousand years in the making, of which we're only about 400 years of that.
Right, for sure.
I don't know if you're...
That's a heck of a state of the president carrying on.
Not too many people have Shakespeare.
It's true.
Everything you're saying is absolutely correct.
Yes.
And I quick question.
I I'll be in the U. I'm going to be in the UN, New York.
I don't know if you're going to be in New York next week for the General Assembly, but President Trump will be speaking on Tuesday.
So I'm going to try to try to be there.
I'm going to try to do that.
I would love to interview you in person.
Okay, so I'm I'll be there.
I'll let you know.
And uh hopefully you will too.
So there's a lot going on next week at the UN in New York, which I know we both love.
So hopefully I will see you there, Mr. Mayor.
And have a great show.
Let's see.
Let's see what Let's see what happens tonight.
But uh see see if uh see if he thinks he really re-established very, very strongly the bonds between the United States and Great Britain so that we can be the we can go out front like the defenders of Western civilization that we have to be.
But we have to re-establish all our young people how important Western civilization is.
That's what they're missing.
Thank you.
Thank you, Mr. Mayor.
English history, like Roman history, like Greek history, uh something for the ages.
And okay, there were other civilizations and other histories.
Uh except the uh Greeks and the Romans and the English seemed to have the capacity to do something that others couldn't do, preserve it.
Of course they could write.
He could write.
And they understood the value of writing.
And from Aristotle, they understood that the importance of deductive reasoning.
And from Moses, they understood the importance of moral law.
And from the Greeks, the Romans, and the English, they understood the importance of civil law and property.
And from Jesus Christ, they understood the importance of human life.
And then we can go on and on.
But we're all one part of a civilization that's under massive attack.
It's the aim of the communists, going back to Karl Marx in 1849, to destroy the one civilization that can crush them by the weight of its accomplishments, Western civilization.
They have nothing like that.
And what you saw there is one of the high points, one of the glories of Western civilization.
When they say the British Empire, you know, imp did this and that.
But every good thing comes a bad thing, but every step in life is a step back.
A lot of the world wouldn't be civilized today if it wasn't for the British.
They'd be eating their fingernails for dinner.
So God bless you, our forefathers, from whom we receive so much.
And with whom we have stood shoulder to shoulder to fight in a way that no others ever have for the freedom of men and women.
Great trip.
Great trip.
Practically unbelievable trip, where we can go over the trade agreements and the money and the idea that our European alliance was gonna was gonna shatter with Trump stronger than it's been.
This is got to go back to Roosevelt and Churchill.
Wow.
All right.
Well, the tragic catastrophic, historic slaughter, and assassination of your good friend, Charlie Kirk and mine, and the presidents.
And a wonderful dad and and and father.
Oh, it's a laws that we're never going to be able to accept.
But the laws.
I don't know the right way to say this.
Charlie, you're up there in heaven.
Please understand this.
You have already uh pushed us through barriers in getting beyond and reversing, as the president has already done, the march toward communism that Democrats are very, very deliberately taking us on.
And you've uh just about uh you know taken certain parts of it and really now turned it around.
And you're revealing aspects of this evil philosophy that they have that many people just never got to see.
It is, of course, uh dreadful.
That the only way we do that is because we lose you.
But at least we're doing it.
Uh the the the the statements of these people trying to denigrate what happened to you are uh are so horrible that only the most uh uh perverted of people can accept them.
And therefore the people that are not just with us, but the people that are that are on the fence realize what we've been fighting for for a long time.
They realize what it was like for you, for me, uh, to be uh secretly surveilled by the FBI that we both probably adored.
I I I couldn't believe the FBI secretly put me on a list, never told me about it for three, four years, searched all of my emails, and why do they do it?
Because I was Donald Trump's lawyer.
Then they crashed into my house, crashed into my law office, destroyed my law practice, discarded my security business.
Uh they ended up finding no crimes.
They never gave me a penny of compensation for the millions they caused me.
Uh nor have they done it for our friend uh Mike Lindell, right?
Or I can I give how many can others can I give you?
Hmm that they've economically crushed.
Tell you what they didn't do, slimy little bastard.
They didn't emotionally crush me.
They made me stronger.
I mean, I'm ready to fight to the end.
I've not given up this country to these slimes.
And it's the slimes that killed you.
I I don't know what the plot was, I don't know what the plan was, but I do know it was a plot, and I do know it was a plan.
And why don't you stop the bullshit all of you?
Stop it.
And so was the president.
Stop that bullshit too.
And FBI start investigating it for real.
This trial is a joke.
This is what you came up with.
You had all this time to invest.
This is what you came up with.
What was the guy traveling to Europe for?
Did you not bother to find out the answer?
Well, in any event, uh let's begin with the crime itself.
All right.
So a crime, oh, I don't know.
I used to teach criminal law, and I used to teach investigations.
Oh, I don't know.
Crimes are pretty simple, right?
The most complicated crimes.
Who did it?
Right.
Was it planned?
And three, why?
Otherwise known as motive.
Well, according to, according to that uh unfortunately not very funny uh little jackass who has made millions on television because a lot of people have bad taste.
Uh and now there's nobody that watches them, so a lot less people have bad taste.
Uh he said it was done by MAGA.
Now I have lots of documents sitting here.
Uh one of which is something he, I'm sure he wouldn't be able to read.
Uh reading is probably beyond him.
It looks, I mean, if it is, he hides it because he sounds very stupid.
And I uh I agree, I have to agree, I very rarely listen to him.
I this is really true.
I never found a little shit funny.
Never.
I found nothing manly about him and nothing funny about him.
Um like a little snip.
Um this affidavit was filed to to uh to launch the highest uh charge in the state of uh uh Utah, and that's the charge of first degree murder, which carries with it the penalty of life in prison and death.
So this is a pretty authoritative document.
Um it's kind of cagey, it doesn't give away everything.
Uh actually uh the prosecutor and the governor have given away more than this document does, but it does give you the key facts.
So is this gonna be a hard case?
Are we really gonna have a hard time figuring out who did this?
Well, if we do, then everybody here is gonna have to have remedial education because here's how long it's gonna take for us to figure out who did it.
We're gonna look at the transcript of the conversation between the killer and his girlfriend, boyfriend, girlfriend, in between friend, who is asked, did you do it and says I did it?
So that that fills in number one.
Who who did who did it?
Who did it?
Well, who said they did it.
This is one of those cases where we have who said they did it.
What's his name?
Mr. Robinson said he did it.
Oh, he not only said it on that transcript you have up there, he also said it to a relative.
He also said it to a friend.
Oh gosh, he left a joke on Discord saying he did it.
It was a joke on Discord that he left there.
Discord did a lot to pick that one up, right?
But they're really they're really sharp on making sure they're not used as a conduit for messages about murder, aren't they?
Good old Discord.
Man, we don't want too many of those people killing themselves because uh nobody will be using it, but maybe it's exciting if they kill themselves.
And what the heck?
There are a certain number of people that are prone to killing themselves, so don't get in the way of our billions by trying to restrict us.
Oh, Discord is shitting in his pants now.
And and the other one read it, particularly when he was described as a redded kid.
The ready kid committed murder, read it.
Um, so who did it?
Come on, who did it?
Who did it?
Well, don't give me well and don't do it.
Stop being a jackass lawyer.
Answer the question.
Tyler did it.
Is there a question?
No, Tyler Robinson.
Robinson who did it come forward and said, I did it.
Tyler Robinson.
Right.
Uh was it planned?
Yes.
Yes.
How long?
They tell us in the chat.
I believe he said weeks.
Yeah.
Now, who tells us that?
The murder.
Tyler Robinson.
Okay.
So we gotta we're gonna have a problem with this.
Tyler Robinson tells you I did it.
We take hours to prove how long he planned it.
He said, oh, about a week.
Okay, so now now we have the murder.
And we have you know what that's called.
You all do.
You know it from watching law shows.
Pre-meditation.
Pre-meditation, pre-meditation is the basis for electrocution, firing squat.
Hanging the bastard.
Yeah, premeditation gets you to death penalty in a state like Utah.
That's a real state that values uh the lives of innocent people over the lives of murderers who would be allowed to stay alive so they could murder more people.
He doesn't deserve sympathy.
Number three.
Oh, oh, oh, all the left wing, all the left-wing uh American hating communist loving jackasses on TV making millions.
There was no clear motive, no obvious motive.
There was no mo, there was no motive.
No.
He he didn't have a motive.
Poor little Tyler.
The only person that's nicer than him is Mr. Mangiuni.
I mean, he he he was extraordinarily brave.
He shot the guy in the back.
And he was handsome.
And we really like people who shoot themselves in the shoot people in the back.
Well, what was the motive?
There was no motive.
Now let's excuse these people because they're all a product of communist influenced uh American education.
Which means they have deficiencies like they can't, well, they can't add, but they can't read.
Because the lover of uh Robinson, Twiggs, who is a man by every who is a man by the standard of the last two to three thousand years, who, based on the standard of the last 10 years, thinks it could become a woman.
Um by just thinking it's a woman.
Uh there are people that that are that are being treated for the same thing, just slightly different version of the same illness called schizophrenia, and it's when you live in a grossly unrealistic world, like you think you're Christopher Columbus, which means you worry all day, your statue is gonna get taken down.
Um just in case, oh, by the way, just in case you we don't want to rely on the male who says they're either female or going to become female.
Apparently, the parents have given a statement or one of the relatives that he said there's too much evil spread by Robinson.
What is that statement?
I'm trying to train you to be lawyers here.
Come on.
What is that statement?
Or how about the following?
Make it easier.
I can make it easier.
Robinson says to his uh lover, the furry one.
Yes, yes, yes, they were also furries.
Don't ask me to describe what furries is, and don't ask me to go beyond the little suggestions there are that it's a sexual perversion.
I do know what means you dress up like an animal.
And I have seen children do that.
And I guess I've seen people on Halloween do it, but I haven't seen people do it seriously and really take it serious.
Nor have I seen it become the basis for sexual activity, nor do I want to.
But in any event, apparently Twiggs is a furry, and he's become he's becoming a furry.
I mean, in fact, if they wanted to be a furry, fine.
Go work it out.
Get yourself a damn good psychiatrist, see what you can do with it.
Just don't kill anybody, huh?
So here's here's the little here here's the little uh thingy here.
Robinson to Twiggs uh when he was um when he was emailing her or texting her, texting her, Ted, would you say?
With these checks, uh chat messages.
Chat messages, okay.
So he's chatting with her.
Um, and now he's on, he's on the run at this point.
He's already, he's already committed uh probably already the worst crime of the century.
One of the worst crimes in our history it will be.
Uh and he is very calmly and coolly trying to figure out how I can get away with it.
Which there goes the insanity defense jerk.
Gone.
Robinson says, I'm still okay, my love, says to Furry, but I'm stuck in Orum for a little while longer.
Yeah.
Shouldn't be long until I can come home.
Kind of I'm gonna probably have a nice cat meal or something.
What if furries eat?
Do they eat cat food, dog food, rodent food?
Well, we know that they need kitty litter boxes, that much we know about them.
Oh, okay.
They need kitty kitty.
Well, he has to bring the kitty litter home.
Yeah.
Should Shouldn't be long until I can come home.
Sorry, Robinson.
You ain't going home.
But I gotta grab my rifle still.
To be honest, I had hoped to keep this secret till I died of old age.
I'm sorry to involve you.
Twigs.
You weren't the one who did it, right?
Robinson.
I'm sorry.
I'm sorry.
Twigs.
I thought they caught the person.
Robinson.
No, they grabbed some crazy old dude.
Then interrogated someone in similar clothing.
I had planned crime.
Adds to premeditation, negates the defense of insanity.
Key word here.
We should underline a prosecutors.
I had planned, I think that goes in my summation to the jury.
I had planned to grab my rifle from my drop point.
Drop point.
Seems to have this thing down to a science, huh?
But most of that side of town got locked down.
It's quiet almost enough to get out.
But there's one vehicle lingering.
Rational enough, smart enough, sane enough to realize that if he walked out, there was a risk, not a reality, but a risk that he'd be caught.
That's a calculating, shrewd person who is operating with a warped, perverted, sick, sinister, satanic mind, but sane.
Twig says, and thank you, Twiggs, for drawing them out.
Why?
Just in case we're going to get confused as to whether this motive or not, Robin says, why did I do it?
Oh.
Twigs, yeah.
Now, stop.
Why did I do it?
The next thing that said is the motive of the crime that every one of the left wingers, including Dickerson, that completely false idiot of a reporter and hater of America, and uh jerk off who said that uh that it was done by MAGA and some of these women.
Uh, there's no motive, not a clear motive.
Go stuff it up your non-brains.
Why did I do it?
Yeah.
So our killer is now gonna supply the motive for us.
Here it comes.
I had enough of his hatred.
Some hate can't be negated out.
He goes on and explains it in greater detail.
Hate is a motive.
Hate directed at the person you killed is specific motive.
We just got past motive.
Uh the murderer, who did it?
Miss Tyler Robinson.
Was it planned?
Yeah, for a week.
What was the motive?
He hated.
Charlie.
All in writing.
Was it premeditated?
Next question.
Twiggs, how long have you been planning this?
A bit over a week, I believe.
And then at the end, uh he indicates his uh absolute specific knowledge of the serious criminality of this and of the consequences of what he's doing, which makes him sane, by saying, delete this exchange.
Cover it up.
Because I am fully cognizant of the fact that it incriminates me, which means I am of sound mind.
You can be a sound mind and be the most evil person in the world.
He may be.
I think the questions raised about whether or not this was some major change in one year or two years to this totally sinister satanic-like creature was actually over that one year or over an entire lifetime.
And although the parents get credit for turning them in, the parents still have to be looked at very carefully at What did they know and when did they know it?
This monster, they they they raised this monster.
Uh he there's nothing you could have done to stop this guy.
There's nothing I could have done to stop him.
There's nothing Charlie could have done to stop him, nothing President Trump could have done to stop him.
Only a couple of people that are gonna stop this guy if they had uh well.
That's a good question.
But it's one that has to be examined and answered, and uh no, because they uh turned him in, doesn't get him off the hook, nor does it get her off the hook because she appears not to know that he did it.
Uh I'm gonna accept that at its word.
That's not a game she's playing with me.
I mean, if these detectives did sound an awful lot, like they had developed like a little bit of a romance with her.
She's being fully cooperative.
Welcome to first of all, I've never met anybody fully cooperative in a criminal case.
Everyone I ever dealt with.
You had to go through about three levels of lives before you got the truth.
Particularly, you know, I never dealt with furry people, but I just don't know if they're the most forthcoming.
Or if there aren't levels of motivation that they have to hide lots of things.
Now, it may be right, and that's what we'll find out.
But you can't approach it that way.
If you approach it that way, it's a self-fulfilling prophecy.
It's like when the FBI said the day after Butler County, and they said, can you give us some of the facts of what happened?
Oh, we can't.
We've just begun the investigation.
Well, was there anybody else about?
No, absolutely not.
We can rule that out.
Nobody else was involved.
Wait a second.
Wait one damn second.
You just told me you haven't investigated it.
But you can rule that out.
This is why the mayor solves crimes.
But they they think we're stupid.
They really think we're stupid.
And that trial is like uh scaring the hell out of me.
But I'm talking about the Roth trial in uh Vero Beach.
I think it's it Vero Beach.
That's where the Dodgers used to play.
North of us.
What?
Uh just north of us, yeah.
Yeah, yeah.
Vero Beach, right below Port St. Lucy where the Mets play.
Imagine those beautiful places having to have these kinds of trials in our society and our civilization.
How so the question now also becomes how many accessories?
I don't know if Twigs is an accessory.
I'm gonna tell you the truth.
You're gonna tell the absolute truth, but it would not, I would not tell my investigators this.
And my guess is she wasn't involved in the pre-planning.
But that's a 6040 guess, maybe 7030.
That doesn't remove one bit the enthusiasm, the the vigor and the energy.
Uh, I require my investigators and me to put behind trying to prove she was involved with it.
And then if we can prove she wasn't, or we can't come up with anything, she's off the hook.
She's just too damn close to it just to let us sink on your feelings.
And now, I also will say something in fairness because I think there's been well-handled investigation.
There's nothing like the two uh Trump assassinations, which are a disgrace.
Uh they may have done that to get more out of her.
Uh, you know, you play good guy, bad guy with these people.
And do you want the public part to be the good guy part?
But hopefully they also got a bad guy in there commercial trying to take apart what she was saying.
Like she wasn't forthcoming.
She had she had the confession from him for four or five hours before she turned it in.
Now, people say, well, can't she be prosecuted for that?
No, she cannot be prosecuted for that.
We're going to take a short break and we'll be right back.
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We got a few minutes left, and I uh I thought I would raise the question of accessories because they're of course that's gonna be a major question.
And it isn't all of these, and often the public is dealt with uh at best with a lack of transparency, which then leaves uh everybody suspicious.
And this one would be highly suspicious because first of all, as we pointed out in earlier shows, there were several uh uh several online messages that have been retrieved and preserved predicting uh the mur Charlie's murder.
That was that flew around with these uh uh queer groups.
And um and there, and then there was another very extraordinary uh suspicious one, and that's a group uh called uh armed queers.
It's a pro-gun SGBTQ group, which exists according to their purposes to advocate violence, violence, to achieve the aims of the LGBTQ groups, and they uh cite the Stonewall riots as an example.
The Stonewall Riley riots, I'm extraordinarily familiar with happened in my city 20 plus years ago, 25 plus years ago, uh when uh there was a major uh breakout of violence in a gay bar in Greenwich Village.
At the time, the gay bars were controlled by the Genovese crime family.
They were all owned by the Genoese crime family.
They were run by a guy whose nickname was Tony Stretch.
Uh and uh they were run by the Genevieve's crime family to extort uh uh well, first of all, they were run uh because they were basically since they were catering to what was then an illegal community, uh they could launder enormous amounts of money for the same reason they ran even larger amounts through Las Vegas, which by the way, I'm the one with Joe de Genova that broke up.
I broke up Las Vegas.
Not Robert De Niro.
Um and um so this was a rather weird thing because the mafia did assure that there wasn't violence in these gay bars.
They wanted these bars so there'd be a nice hidden source of enormous amounts of cash.
But you know that's not the only reason.
They could have done that anywhere.
What a great opportunity for extortion.
You think that scene in Godfather 2 where the senator shows up with the prostitute that has no family, and he either kills her or they make it look like a killed her, or they convince him, and they tell her, Don't worry, she has no family, she's a nobody.
We can make her go away.
Which indicates that they ran the houses of prostitution in Nevada.
They did.
And that's why they did it.
Yes, for money, but mostly because here you are, you have a bar on the west side of Manhattan, somebody walks in, a very fine-looking gentleman.
Oh, a Democrat appointee judge of a Supreme Court in New York County.
I mean, they're crooked as hell.
I mean, just pick one.
Um, or uh, or an important politician, or maybe a guy who runs a very, very big company that you could extort things out of.
And when in me, you may never do anything with it, but you got the picture of him in the bathroom, right?
And then you're in front of the judge, and you got a nice big crooked uh uh crooked uh slip and fall case.
Do you want 10 million dollars for nothing?
You go up to the you have somebody visit the judge on the way home, and they give them a little picture of him with the 12-year-old boy.
Uh this is none of this is fiction.
I lived uh through all this.
I proved all this.
The Stonewall riot was um sort of a reaction against all of that.
And and uh it was a horrible uh uh bit of violence, uh, but it was different.
There were equities on the part of the gay community, and and some exaggerated.
But it wasn't like this with these people.
I mean, I I was very close to the gay community as endorsed by the log cabin republicans.
I may have been the first Republican endorsed by them.
I believe they're entitled to their to rights and respect, and and I completely disagree.
And I completely love them.
They're wonderful people.
As long as they understand that it's for them, not me, and uh it it's this isn't something we proselytize about, this is something we live with in a dignified way.
Now, yeah, that thing we're looking at on uh on that's dignified.
No, no, no.
That's been grabbed by the communists who use this as a way to overthrow us.
They've taken it and they've radicalized it and they've uh made it insane, and they've made it, you know, just push it.
Uh uh first get them to accept uh gay uh homo, second, get them to accept gay marriage.
Third, get them to accept the absurd proposition that a man can go into a woman's bathroom.
Uh fourth, get them to accept the fact that a man can come in and box with a woman and become the heavyweight champion of the world that way.
Uh oh, yeah, get them, get them, uh, get them to agree that any time uh uh a man wants to say they're a woman, all they have to do is say I'm a woman, put a dress on and walk into a lady's room and rape the girls.
I mean, uh, get them to accept all that.
Now we have a society with no rules, we have an amoral society, and boy, you just made Karl Marx extraordinarily happy.
Now, here's the girl who girl, I'm sorry, I don't know what this one started as girl, boy, or furry one.
But this is it here.
Her name, her name, her name is Finnean.
Urmea Finnian.
She's the child of Iranian immigrants, uh, whose Instagram uh bio specifically says she's in favor of revolution plus trans liberation.
Uh they also are involved with these people, uh, out and out avowed communists.
Uh they had a uh big meeting 45 miles from the scene of the of the of the murder uh in which they uh demonstrated all uh different ways in which they could um in which they could defend themselves by the use of violence.
I don't know if Charlie Kirk was mentioned during this meeting, uh, but I do know this is an extraordinarily active group in Utah that the Utah police are very, very worried about.
Uh I also know that the moment that Charlie was shot, they pulled their website.
Are they connected with it?
Aren't they connected with it?
Do they have something to do with it?
Are they accessories?
I'll tell you who else is an accessory.
Bet my bottom dollar, Antifa.
And I will bet my bottom dollar that the reason the president put them on the list today or the day before is the FBI has come up with that in their investigation of this case.
You know the chow, chow, bellow, chow.
I'm gonna tell you how perfectly incompetent your news sources are.
There are very, very few of them that have picked up the fact that that for almost maybe over a hundred years, is also not just the anthem of the Italian partisans who oppose Mussolini, but hey, stupid ones who present the news to the American people, it's the anthem of Antifa.
Played in Utah hundreds of times.
It is much more likely that that's where Tyler got it than from Italian partisans.
I didn't think he was a student of Italian history.
The Antifa that operates in Utah uses that him.
That's what he's trying to convey with that.
Antifa.
And you can bet your bottom dollar, the FBI has them high on the investigatory list, and I'm gonna give you no evidence, just my unbelievably great instinct as uh the person who solved probably the who caught probably the worst criminals of the 20th century, who nobody else could catch.
They put Antifa on that list, but it can make it easier for the FBI to investigate.
Don't don't don't get all confused by what they've done with cash is a genius, and cash is a hell of a lot smarter than they are.
I gotta believe Cash said uh boss, put them on the list, time to do it.
They should have been on the list two years ago anyway.
Let's see if they don't show up in this thing.
Antifa, chow chow, bello chow.
The Italian resistance.
That's why you have to listen to us.
We're the only ones to give you the news.
They hide it, or sometimes they're so stupid they don't know it.
Well, we'll be back tomorrow?
You go over to now?
Right now, 8 o'clock?
We're gonna be on X. We got a lot of more of this stuff.
A couple more secret revelations that these morons haven't figured out, and uh a couple of propositions that we have to try to figure out.
So we'll we'll we'll see you tomorrow night.
God bless the Kirk family, all of his friends and family.
God bless America.
God bless those in in harm's way, and God bless President Trump, who probably is back from a glorious, very successful trip to Great Britain.
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