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Aug. 11, 2025 - Rudy Giuliani
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The Rudy Giuliani Show: Monday, August 11, 2025
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Good evening.
This is Rudy Giuliani and this is the Rudy Giuliani show.
Well, you know where we are on Mike's TV.
I was with Mike this weekend.
Boy to.
Again, boy, did we have a, I mean, first of all, it was a very serious event.
So I don't know, it feels strange to say we had a wonderful time at a serious event.
But I guess that's good, right?
If you had a wonderful time at a serious event.
The event was put on by the Gateway Pundit, and it was to honor people who stood up during the purges, which was what I guess we could come up with a lot of names for the Biden era.
The Dark Ages, the end of democracy in America, the cessation of democracy in America, the interruption of democracy in America, whatever it was.
But he had, they had there well known and then not well known people who went through unfair, underlined the word unfair and exaggerated from what I'm saying, because I'm not conveying at all, I mean, I'm not even conveying at all what they did to these people, some of the J six people in particular.
But in any event, they were there and they were being honored by the gateway pundit, which really was at the cutting edge of bringing all this out and didn't back down one inch, not one inch, the gateway pundit.
was, I felt behind me 100%.
And not just me, but my friends, Bannon and Stone and Papadopoulos and Carter Page and you name it.
They had the thing figured out from the very beginning.
And it was a wonderful event.
And it wasn't just, you know, everybody patting themselves on the back, a little of that, you know, a little bit, just a little bit.
But everyone turned themselves to practical discussions about how we go forward now that we haven't won the battle.
The president has given us some very significant victories.
We're going to have to continue it, particularly with regard to election integrity and the restoration of the functions of democracy, mostly in the courtroom and in our justice system.
So we'll be talking about that over the course of the week.
We'll have a couple of guests on, and we have clips for you so that you can share in it.
I speak at and I go to lots of conferences, not so much now.
I used to go.
100 a year.
And I find them much more useful than most people do.
I know you have to sit through the boring speeches and but some things always develop when you get experts i thought this was one of the very best ever so the whole have to have my eternal admiration and of course it was in las vegas and uh Ted and I and Dr. Maria got a chance to go to the Mob Museum, which I've never seen.
And we'll give you our comments on that and also on something a little more a little more Upper class, let's call it, upper the Hoover Dam.
We were thinking of getting to the Grand Canyon, but we couldn't quite make it.
We took the Red Eye back.
Marie is doing a show live tonight, right?
Oh, yeah.
Okay.
So at 9 o'clock, when you finish with me on X, go over and watch Dr. Marie.
See how she looks after being on the red eye.
Myself, Ted, and Dr. Marie were all on the red eye.
And we took off at 10 and we came in at 6.30, right?
Yeah.
It was good.
She slept a bit.
I didn't sleep one bit.
I watched You know which great singer?
Johnny Cash.
And I have to tell you, kudos to Joaquin Phoenix and Reese Witherspoon.
What a great job of playing those two characters.
And how about Joaquin Phoenix and her?
I think she did too.
But certainly Phoenix sang for the great singer.
Now, I am a very big critic of popular music.
Not all of it.
I like some of it immensely.
But I'm very sensitive to the voice because I grew up with opera.
Johnny Cash had one heck of a bass voice.
God gave him a very big voice and boy, they didn't have to use it.
Like Sinatra had a beautiful, beautiful middle level baritone, but was a student of Puccini, believe it or not, and understood melody.
All these people are much better musicians, you know, like Lady Gaga, who is not exactly, you know, someone whose music I understand completely, but that woman is a genius with regard to music.
I mean, she was when she was a kid.
I knew her when she was a kid.
A lot of these people, a lot of these people, there's a reason for their success.
And then every once in a while, there isn't.
Don't put them all together.
Don't put them all together.
Go.
As the Godfather said, man, you should see the book I got.
You guys are going to be, you're going to love it.
You know, I use the Godfather expressions all the time.
I now have the complete, the complete screenplay of Godfather 1 and 2 with annotations.
Like, it's like the Bible.
I will not.
But afraid God will get mad at me.
I can put it on the same shelf with my Bibles.
You know, I have four or five Bibles because I like to look up the different way they're translated the jewish bible the protestant bible the king james version uh the dewey rames version which is a catholic version the various ones well i mean the big news is is the uh and i i think the president's playing with this a bit this is will they let zelensky be part of the uh will he be in the room that matters or not you know the song from hamilton right
the room that matters and who look they kept aaron burrow and he killed hamilton he was so bitter about it that is the reason he did it maybe at some point we'll play a little bit of the room that matters.
They're doing a revival on Broadway.
Maybe that's why I thought about it.
They're doing a revival on Broadway.
Not a revival.
They're doing the 15th year.
And for the summer, they have the original cast, including Mr. Miranda, who wrote it.
Oh, wow.
Who is the son of one of my former commissioners, by the way.
I have somewhere on the cutting room floor a documentary on Hamilton that we should put together, Ted.
Let's do it.
You know what I did?
I went to the places in New York City where Hamilton And I show you what it looks like now, and then I take you back and show you what it looked like then.
Yeah.
Including his last home, which is remarkably similar to Gracie Mansion for a very, very special reason.
He was a partner with Archibald Gracie, who was the man who built Gracie Mansion, in something known as the New York Post.
So, if you was the Linsky, the first.
Would you buy a ticket to Alaska for Friday?
But they got to be careful with their money.
You know, you know how we're careful.
We like to.
Mayor?
Yeah.
I think he's got to pay the extra to make it refundable.
Yeah.
You know, we're probably putting a tariff on it.
We're probably putting a, I mean, knowing Trump and knowing how I took your joke, didn't I?
Trump is probably up to the price.
So you get a little more money out of it than we're getting.
I'd get a refundable for sure.
I'd insure.
Sorry, man.
I kind of took your joke there.
What?
I kind of took your joke there.
Right?
I was, I was saying that earlier.
Is Zelensky going or not?
And you said, well, he better get his, he better get his flight refundable.
You should have seen all the women around this guy this weekend.
I couldn't even, I mean, doctor Maria and I. Dr. Maria and I, you know, we couldn't find him.
Well, you too, I'm going to put, I'm going to, he would get them to do stuff for him.
Well, I'm going to add Dr. Maria as the other really good wingman.
All of them.
Yeah.
I think Dr. Maria.
Oh, come on.
I go to this conference.
I'm with the mayor.
Dr. Maria.
I'm the mayor of Giuliani and Dr. Maria.
Because all the women sort of, after she gave her speech, yeah, they don't want to talk to her.
Her speech was fabulous.
Yes.
It was fabulous.
And we have a, we have a, we'll play a little bit.
So we have some of that maybe in the next show.
But after that, all of the younger women, and this happens a lot from the time she was a CEO and a teacher, they kind of gravitate to her so they gravitate to her and we can't tell are they gravitating to her or they're trying to meet ted you know a little bit but then ted walks away with them so ted is single so stop all the gossiping and stuff like that so is zelensky going to be invited or allowed to come in or not i mean i began i
began i began the uh the red eye at 10 o'clock last night with a fairly strong either quote or leak out of the white house saying he wasn't and then i woke up this morning i didn't wake up i went i started to try to go to bed and I saw the president say something about he may come in for the, there'll either be a second meeting or he may come in for the end of the first meeting.
So maybe they'll have like a buzzer system.
Okay, time for Zelensky.
Boom.
Right.
Come on in.
Sorry, this is not a laughing matter.
This is probably the most important meeting.
But Alaska, of course.
I was wondering, where are they going to do this meeting if they're going to do it in the U.S.?
Alaska, obviously.
not even cold there right now.
Actually, they're still in the big,
very quickly.
And this one was tough.
But it's beautiful.
You have to go to Alaska.
I know a lot of people think of Alaska is beautiful.
It's beautiful.
I mean, if you go in the winter with the snow, it's a dreamland.
And if you go in the warmer seasons, you have the combination of the greenery and the snow and the mountains.
And you can see who created the earth when you go to Alaska.
So here's how it lines up.
And I'm thinking that probably on Wednesday or Thursday, Ted, we'll do a little panel discussion like we do for elections in which we see what everybody thinks will be the outcome and the points of contention so people can follow it more easily.
Yes.
What do you think?
Let me warm you up to it as I am trying to keep myself awake with coffee.
I'm sorry.
So here's the hard to figure out who blinks on this.
Putin.
and his minions, who I like to call the Politburo, but there's something else now, put out a statement about two days ago.
about their reasonable position on peace.
Their reasonable position on peace is that Russia get to keep all of the country it took away from Ukraine with an illegal invasion, that it also get about, it's less than a third more.
in three of the provinces where they have not taken the entire province that they weren't able to capture militarily but they should just be given it because they illegally invaded a country and then went ahead and conducted a war more like terrorists than an army, including just the other day in Kherson where they killed children.
Nobody points out.
The press is really not on Putin's side, but for some reason they let him skate on the killing of men, women, and children.
He is doing it 10 to 1 compared to Israel.
And he's doing it purposely.
I mean, there's no doubt.
When you see the buildings that he hits, you've got to be a jackass not to realize that they're trying to.
frighten and cower the Ukrainian people into submission.
So the Russians say, give us all the land.
Give us the three or four additions that we want.
And we'll make peace.
But you can't join NATO.
And you can't enhance your defenses.
And you can't do this and you can't do that.
So that would be unconditional victory for Russia in the territories they captured and expanded.
It wouldn't be unconditional victory in the sense that it was everyone's thought that what he really wanted to do was take all of Ukraine.
And I think everyone thought he could do it because here you have the big Russian army against little Ukraine.
Well, we have to say Ukraine for all the confusion of it, fought a gallant fight to save their homeland.
And for centuries, Ukraine was split between affection for Russia and affection for the West.
And I'll tell you what Putin did.
They all hate Russia now.
Even the ones that are Russian.
And I talked to a lot of them.
I even met a group.
That's the picture or the interview.
I'd like to see if you could get from Dr. Maria.
We were, we were in the, we were in the, um, It's like a little luncheon place at the Grand Canyon.
And these two people come up to me, they have a bit of an accent, and they say they're lawyers and they're here for a short while, and I'm a hero of theirs.
So I don't know if they just do that because they want a picture or whatever.
But I always say yes.
I'll tell you why sometime.
Always say yes.
And Maria, they're a very nice young couple.
Just quintessential 30-year-old nice couple.
And I said, sure, sure.
So I stood up, and the couple we were with moved aside a little.
little and i think uh either dr maria or one of them said you know where did you come from and they said ukraine Wow.
Then he told me he was a lawyer in Ukraine.
Then he told me he worked for Victor Shogun.
What?
He worked for Victor Shogun.
Do you know who Victor Shogun is, ladies and gentlemen?
He's the prosecutor that Biden had fired.
So now I know I really am a hero of his.
Yeah, yeah, we got everything.
Oh, good.
Okay, good.
And he's willing to come on.
And, you know, the thought haunted me all day and last night into today.
This beautiful young couple are going back.
And I said, where do you come from?
Zaporizhzhia.
I don't know if you remember, but on Friday I alerted you to an attack by Putin on a civilian target in Zaporizhzhia where they killed two children and injured ten adults.
And it was a purely civilian target.
So of course it gave me a chance to ask about that.
And I said, and for some reason, I didn't think they were attacking Zaporizhzhia with the same intensity that they were attacking these areas in the provinces that they're trying to expand or Kharkiv, which is driving them crazy that they can't take it.
But it turns out, he says, I said, how is the city?
I mean, is it as bad as Kharkiv?
He said, I explained to him that I have this emotional connection to Kharkiv.
And he said, no, we're not as bad off as Kharkiv.
But to make us know we're in a war, particularly recently, they've been hitting us every day.
It's not like a massive attack.
But he said, for example, the attack that I was talking about was actually a little worse than that because they don't pick up the international press.
Who knows?
He said it was actually just two children that were killed, just two children.
I'm sorry I said that.
I did not mean to say it that way.
But it was a significantly more than 10 that were injured.
The 10 that were reported were life-threatening injuries.
He said, we're in fear of that all the time.
In some ways, like when you're in a situation like this, he and she said both that we know our friends in other places like in Kiev.
are under much more pressure than we are.
Or if you go over to the east, even more pressure.
So even though we have bombs falling on us, we feel...
He's a lawyer.
We went quite significantly into Biden's corruption, which I've read the file.
You wouldn't even have to, all you'd have to do is just put all the documents in the file and evidence.
We'd start our Rico case to recover $20 million.
He didn't take 10, he took 20.
And of course, my brother,
I asked him about the war, and I asked him about, could he give me some guidance on, since obviously this was a very intelligent guy, and he was now in private law practice, he's a defense lawyer.
And he was a prosecutor, was a defense lawyer, like in America, where that happens a lot.
And he said that, well, he actually asked me.
not to repeat it.
He asked me not to repeat it because he wants them to go in with the maximum, you know, the 100% position so that if they have to compromise, it's from 100%, not from 50%.
Very smart.
But the real issue is, would they give up territory?
And I personally, with a tremendous amount of affection for Ukraine, but a great desire not to have a world war, believe that a compromise would be acceptable and a victory for Ukraine,
given the fact that the original goal of Putin was to just, you know, kind of like be Hitler and roll into Sudetenland and just take it.
And everybody sits there scratching their heads.
How did he take it in two days?
He walked in and he's lost 250,000 Russian troops in a country that he's 10 times the size of.
Russia, we're not giving anything back.
And we want one more.
The smart money says that last thing I told you is the negotiable part.
We want some more.
Although there's some more that they want, some of it's very valuable property.
It's some of the property that has the rare minerals and the rare earth.
So that might be their give.
The president made an indication that Ukraine might have to consider giving back some territory, but it would have to be a trade.
He didn't concede it.
He said that would be something that would have to be discussed.
The Europeans got together yesterday and in a very friendly way came back to the president with support for the Ukrainian position.
They should not be allowed to take any territory because it violates international law.
It sets a precedent for people just stealing territory from others.
And it is, it's not a violation of the letter.
It's a violation of the spirit of our agreement with Ukraine when they gave up nuclear weapons that they would be protected against such a thing.
And then there's sort of an addendum, I don't know if it's part of the official part or the unofficial part, which said, but if you have to, then it's got to be a very strict territory for territory trade.
In other words, you can't give them everything and they've got to give back.
I may be imposing my position on theirs.
It sounded to me like it is entirely different than mine.
They're going to have to give back as much territory as they keep.
and it has to be as valuable.
They can't give Ukraine back the crap and keep all the rare minerals, in other words.
And they don't get any additional territory.
What they didn't win, they didn't win, and that becomes the border, and that is the final border.
Is that doable?
I don't know.
I don't know, but I'm going to...
know where russia is and is controlled by communists and islamists and who knows what else clowns And they're just marching right in and taking the rest.
Particularly if they impose.
disarmament on Ukraine, no NATO, no anything.
Since these are going to be the final borders, and that is what we're getting Putin to agree to, then Ukraine should have complete protection that they're not going to be double crossed again, because they are being double crossed and even having to give up this land.
And here's where it gets tough.
I think the president would be firm on the first part.
European troops there.
And maybe with a kind of American backup.
American backup, meaning we'll sell them arms.
When we sell them arms, we sometimes give them advisors, that sort of stuff.
And NATO will not be bound and bullied by Ukraine, by Russia.
And they're not going to be allowed to say you can't be in NATO.
That's the one where I detect a little more weakness on the Trump administration's part, on the NATO part.
Not the European.
troop part, which was his idea in the first place.
Now, both of those, Putin is going to disagree with.
So it's going to be very, very interesting to see who gives on what, if there's any give at all.
And we have a Reykjavik where, you know, Ronald Reagan just walked out on Gorbachev.
And if he walks out, then, you know, all the gloves are off and our tariffs should be monstrous and we should give the Ukraine.
weapons that will jeopardize Russia to such an extent that it's going to have to cave in.
Which is, I mean, it was a totally different situation with the reduction of nuclear arms but Trump got after nine months exactly what he wanted and more by walking out and then increasing our military budget to such an extent that Gorbachev wrote I think in his second attempt at a biography America spent us into oblivion well we're gonna take a short break and we will be right back Whether
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Oh, no.
Welcome back to the Rudy Giuliani show.
And as I was telling you, this is all going to be over territory and how it gets divided, subdivided, and the conditions.
it's going to be done and then it's going to be over conditions of security so that this doesn't happen again to Ukraine and they are largely in two different planets right now about both.
Could it turn out that by the end of the weekend, next weekend, they're together?
Yeah, it could happen.
And we're going to assess the chances of that as we get a little closer to it.
But if you would, I'll show you, I'll show you what I'm talking about in these provinces.
Okay?
So there's one of the more recent maps.
If I tell you all the colors, it's like to, it gets me confused.
So there are four, want the official name?
Oblast.
Call it a province, call it a county, call it a state.
The first one, and right up there, right next to Russia, is Luhansk.
Now, Russia has captured all of Luhansk.
All of it.
Donetsk, which is right south of it, they have captured all but maybe, not all but, they've captured, I'm looking at it, essentially, essentially, here's what Ukraine was able to retain.
Let me see if this will show.
They were able to retain that.
So that's about a 15% to 20% sliver part of Lujan's Donetsk and Zaporizhia.
Zaporizhia is the place I was talking about before, and Zaporizhia is, for some reason, they don't list it as Zaporizhia.
They're using the city names Mariupol and Melitopol, but that's where Zaporizhia is.
And Kyrsten, which is where they were fighting today, is down here.
they they want to they want it they want that they want that territory which when you put the three pieces together they want that given to them even though they didn't capture it and right now as of yesterday They were attacking in Zaporizhzhia And also all the way over here, if you see in Kherson.
And they did a major attack in Kherson, killed a lot of people just as Putin is making peace.
So that's what it's about.
And are they gonna be able to do a what would you say, khaki or tan or yellow, gold?
Green, green, tan, green, gold, whatever.
This part right here.
are they going to be able to do a deal there so that there are troops there and an And it would be good for them to meet the requirements of NATO.
It would be good for the people of Ukraine to do that because it would mean getting the hands getting the country out of the hands of the crooked oligarchs who of course aren't as bad as Putin, but almost as bad.
So that's that.
I borrow that from I borrow that.
Who says that's that, Ted?
Let's see if you can remember.
And that's That.
It wasn't And that's the rest of the story.
That's Paul Harvey, right?
You know who that is?
And that's that.
Oh, the movie.
it was a movie no no it's it's it's um the guy from uh the newsmax show at 10 we like him so much chris chris plant well he doesn't know that he's my friend and he's and that's that yeah and that's that every time every time he's beaten usually he does that when he's beaten the living daylights out of yeah and she's a great official left-wing right sacrificial left-wing defender and there's You're right.
And there's nothing else to say.
He nails them.
He gets them going.
The only thing I can tell you is if you are on the fence, he kind of wins the sympathy vote.
because they and The one democrat, yeah.
Jason.
Yeah, Jason is a professor and he comes in with a good score.
I'm going to give him that, right?
But when he's finished, they've your two friends do a real job on him.
Yeah, yeah.
Oh, right?
Oh, yeah.
The slap.
The slap.
Tell them who you work for.
Mercy, Mercedes Schlapp was my immediate supervisor boss in the 2020 campaign.
And she's always spoken so highly of the mayor.
And Mercy, we're going to reach out and get you on the show.
Oh, Mercy does a good job.
Yeah.
She's a big fan of the mayor.
She's a sharp.
She's sharp.
They have some extension.
Tony Schaeffer is on and they have some every once in a while.
Gordon is on.
And so they have some, you know.
You have not been on while I was on once when we were in Washington.
I feel like you did go a long time ago when I first started.
You have to be there live in Washington.
Yeah, we really did.
But we did do it once and I enjoyed it.
So now let's go to Israel.
I mean, it's amazing.
When you think about it, the president.
So BB has now worked out a plan for the occupation of Gaza on a transition basis.
And to explain it to you, you know, in a minute we'll go back to the maps as we have to, because it is about maps.
Think of his problem, right?
They want a ceasefire.
They want an end to the war.
Have they they effectively rendered Hamas a mere pittance of what it used to be?
100%, absolutely.
And they're continuing to do it while nobody's looking to Hezbollah and the Houthis.
You know, when nobody asks, they're just bombing the hell out of the people who want to kill them and us.
Thank you, BB, by the way.
So if they're going to rush him into having him make peace, which means he can't reach the goal that he believes he has to reach to protect his people, which is to drive out of their borders.
border areas, people who have a bond oath to destroy his people, the Jewish people.
So he has said, and this is after so many opportunities for Egypt to come in or Jordan or some combination of them, or even, I don't know if we ever thought of that, if we ever thought of.
I think we want to direct a modernization of Gaza.
I don't think America wants to occupy Gaza.
What we do want to do is help to guide them into becoming a great country because there's a wonderful position there.
And that one time, way back in the old days, there used to be just a wonderful place, that whole area, when the Philistines had it.
So Bibi has laid out five principles for people.
peace uh hamas disarmed Number two, all hostages freed.
Number three, I can't see that quite.
Can you read that, Ted?
The fourth one, if I get it absolutely right.
Israeli overriding security control.
Israeli security, but number five, a non-Israel civilian control.
Peaceful civil administration.
And that could be an Arab country or a group of Arab countries or whatever.
So that it isn't like Israel on the streets policing Gaza, but Israel would have overall control during the transition period to make sure that they don't go back to being terrorists.
Now, that's in the interest of Israel.
That's in the interest of the next group of people that the Palestinians and the Gazans want to kill.
Remember, all Palestinians are taught to kill the Jews and to kill us.
It's not just Hamas people in the schools that are being taught that.
It's both.
which is why overwhelming percentage of Palestinians agree with what Hamas did on October 7.
So the final...
And he has said in the past, like an Arab country or a group of them taking responsibility for that.
Now, that would really be good because part of this, believe it or not, is to get the Arab people to be nicer to the Palestinians.
They won't take them in Jordan.
They won't take them in Egypt.
They really don't.
They just want to use them, you know, as pawns in Iran.
They look down on them in Iran.
So that's what's going to be involved there.
And I think we're getting there.
I have a stronger, if we're comparing two negotiations, I have a stronger feeling that this one, although the odds are, That great American ambassador.
Mike Huckabee, by the way, slammed the President of, I'm sorry, the Prime Minister of England, Kyrus Starmer, over the British prime minister's condemnation of Israel's war in Gaza, claiming if the foreign leader had faced Nazi Germany in World War II, his nation would have been defeated because he would have been an appeaser.
Mike, God bless you.
There's a man of complete total principle.
And I tell you, having run against him for president, I was convinced that He's got all of the qualities that would make a great American president.
I think in the past I've touched my great affection for Mr. Huckabee.
He points out, did the UK surrender to the Nazis?
Did they drop food to them?
Ever heard of Dresden, Pennsylvania?
That wasn't food you were dropping, and you weren't giving them any warnings either, like Israel does.
If you had been PM, then England would now be speaking German.
It's good to have some people that can take on these adversaries, and it doesn't all have to be Trump.
And boy, the Collins don't get much bigger than the Reverend Huckabee.
Oh, yeah.
Oh, yeah.
You and the governor are very close to that.
We did our show there.
Those longtime viewers of America's America Live know that we did a, oh, I filled in for the mayor the mayor was doing a show with the governor and i filled in for you on america's mayor live from the governor's office we went down to went down to his studio and spent a couple days yeah but i became close to mike in 2007 2008 when we debated each other 11 times and we grew to really respect each other although
our political views were somewhat different particularly at that time i was he hasn't changed much i have i was probably more your typical uh moderate New York Republican with a very heavy emphasis on conservative with regard to foreign policy, particularly communism, and crime because of my role as a prosecutor.
And over time, I have become, I don't know if you can be more conservative than I am.
It's a process of maybe I was a late bloomer, but we're all watching the process of Churchill, which is if you're not a liberal when you're 20, you have no heart.
And if you're not a conservative when you're 40, you have no brain.
I love that.
I don't even know about that 20 thing, by the way.
Winston, I hate to disagree with you, Winston, but do you think that Winston Churchill looks like a bulldog?
In like, oh, no, but I don't mean that, but not a negative way.
No, no, no.
Oh my goodness, the ultimate bulldog.
Last night when I was,
So when I was, the place that I went, I, I, we got into a very crowded elevator and Maria thought it was a little tiny blue-nosed pitbull a puppy pitbull and she said it and by the way she loves pitbulls she has one and he's wonderful but the lady corrected her and said no no that was a English kind of like a boxer you know that little masculine face but
they're so cute and I looked at him and I'm saying to myself Put a cigar in that guy's mouth.
He looks just like Winston.
Just put a cigar in that dog's mouth.
He looks like Winston.
And by the way, you can see how, probably was eight months old, how smart he was.
Wow.
So Iran, the reign of terror, is now hiding their remaining scientists.
Now, I don't know if this is accurate.
And I have no idea why they would put out the actual number of scientists they have left.
It just becomes like a checkoff for Mossad, right?
But they claim they have 15 top scientists who survived the attacks and they have been moved to secure locations in Tehran or among the or along the northern coast.
That's probably good enough for Mossad to find them in about a day.
And one of the Israelis who was questioned on this article that was written in the New York Post said one could consider them dead men walking.
And they are the people that are going to lead the resurgence of the now destroyed, conceitedly destroyed nuclear program in Iran.
Would anybody like to look at the odds that they're not going to make it to leading this resurgence that they're giving in Las Vegas on this?
They're not very good.
Now, Israel has a list of 100 people that are critical to the program.
I do not know if that includes the 14 that they have already eliminated.
Now, the group that we talk about a lot and we're very close to the MEK, the PMOI, it's like a combination of different groups.
They are now being slaughtered by the Ayatollah on the charge that they are giving up the information to Mossad about the location of these scientists.
And I'll say nothing about that other than I don't know.
Even though I've worked with them for 13 years, they don't tell me and I don't ask.
But the reality is that group has contributed so much to helping to bring down that regime, that when it happens, they're entitled to an award from the president.
And they are entitled to have their working group, which is made up of not just them, but a whole group of 40 to 45 year consistent opponents of the reign of terror and people who are willing to sign a 10-point program revolving around human rights,
the rights of women, a non-nuclear Iran, and Iran with a American English type system of justice, and Iran with guaranteed rights.
And that group known as, well, M.E.K.
Mujahideen El-Khalk, meaning dedicated to the people.
It's heavy.
headed by Madame Miriam Rajavi who I think you've seen her speaking speeches on this show and you have very frequently seen Ali Reza Sadadi who is their representative in the United States.
In fact, he was with us at the conference and everybody recognized him as being on my show and Dr. Maria's show.
They said, we know you.
Yeah.
Oh, yeah.
He's a swine.
This man is a very, very unassuming man.
Brilliant.
Brilliant.
But very unassuming.
I mean, he came this close to being killed in Arizona.
This close by them.
I was disclosed.
He was disclosed.
So, let's.
see what happens there and how much give there is.
I don't know if that's the right word, Ted, but how much flexibility there is to see if we can reach some kind of arrangement there because here unlike with Putin where you can do some rational calculations we're not dealing with rational actors here so It's a little hard to predict what they're going to do.
You just have to figure out what the right thing for you to do is just move ahead with it.
Move ahead with it.
Move ahead with it.
And don't let them delay too much.
That's their process.
which you say well how could they delay but then they're hoping that something else will intervene some other force will come along right not a bad prediction in in modern affairs there are so many competing i mean which is more critical ukraine or uh ukraine or or uh or uh the middle east
yeah i guess it depends on where you live but it's very hard so get ready to make your switch.
Go over to X. We're going to continue with the problems we're having with India.
We're going to talk about exactly what's happening in New York City, my city that's going communist.
I don't know what to say about it other than I have to talk about it.
We're going to talk about a big victory for male ballots.
And we're going to give you a little idea of what happened this weekend at this very, very exciting conference.
We'll give you the serious part and we'll give you the human interest and historical part.
So come over to X. It'll be on at 8 which is only five minutes from now and then after at nine whether we finish exactly at nine or not you go over and see dr maria or if you want to wait we'll get off with it enough time so that you can get a good sense of dr maria then i want to i mean i'm anxious to see how she's doing after a um after an all-nighter well please I
told the people in Ukraine, the people that we met in Ukraine, and we'll show you their pictures if we can get them from Dr. Maria, who might be off by now.
I'll show you their pictures on America's Mayor Live.
But we told them every night, almost from the beginning of this, we've asked all of my people, which I consider you to be my people, I hope, not being presumptuous, to pray for the people of Ukraine.
And I hope it's doing some good.
I also asked them to pray for the Jewish people and for the people of Israel.
And I asked them to pray for the Iranians who are being held as slaves by the reign of terror.
And of course, I asked them to pray for all the people that are in harm's way because of all these ridiculous conditions in the world and to pray for America.
And then the man who's done the most to move us out of the darkness into the bright sunlight and marching without hesitation forward, and that's Donald J. Trump.
But most importantly, let's all recite together.
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