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May 7, 2025 - Rudy Giuliani

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America’s Mayor Live (663): CONCLAVE 2025 DAY 2—Inside the Process of Selecting the 267th Pope

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	This is Rudy Giuliani, and this is America's Mayor Live, and no pope.
	That means no pope yet, which of course is understandable since they just got in there.
	And I think, except for some meditation and prayer, maybe even a sermon by the...
	I think the first thing they do is vote.
	It's like getting an initial vote right away.
	So it would be almost impossible that you'd get two-thirds vote on the first ballot.
	When you consider you probably have a lot of favorite Sun candidates at a convention, meaning you may not ultimately vote for your best friend.
	You'll vote for one of the three or four or five major ones, but maybe that first vote you want to give to the guy you were in the seminary with, or the cardinal you'd become very close to, or one that you believe is the most qualified, but you know that he's not going to get majority support.
	So it's very unlikely that on that first ballot you would get a pope.
	So although we covered it on the earlier show, since we have like a big, big new audience, let's just bring you up to date on what's going on.
	I mean, this morning, the Cardinals all assembled.
	It would have been about 4 o 'clock our time, about 10 or so their time, maybe 9.30, 10, their time, for mass.
	In the Pauline Chapel, which is right to the, as you enter the Sistine Chapel, a gigantic hall outside.
	It's the chapel to the left.
	Now what you're watching there is one of the most dramatic ceremonies of all.
	That is the ceiling of the doors of the Sistine Chapel.
	Ain't nobody going to be allowed out of there.
	And if they do go out of there, like God forbid they're sick, they don't go back.
	They can't go back.
	And what's the Latin phrase that's inscribed?
	I'll have to go.
	Oh, we haven't got it.
	Okay.
	I have it here.
	Comment below if you know it.
	I'm sure actually a lot of our audience does.
	I bet.
	Yeah, tell us the phrase.
	Oh, those Swiss guard uniforms are quite gorgeous.
	I must say.
	So, they are...
	They're engaged in the voting now.
	And maybe I should just review with them one time the...
	Some of the frontrunners here.
	The candidates, the frontrunner candidates.
	Let's see.
	So who's the...
	The current favorite remains Cardinal Peraline, correct?
	Do we have the...
	We do.
	So we'll start with the top guy.
	I would say Cardinal...
	The top one is Pietro Parolin, who is the Secretary of State, Italian.
	He's one of three Italians on the list, which is kind of unusual because I don't think there is going to be an Italian pope.
	But Pietro Parolin right here, he's the Secretary of State.
	He is considered one of the liberal candidates, although he might be more middle-of-the-road than liberal.
	He gets the liberal designation.
	Because of his negotiations with China and allowing China way too much discretion in the selection of bishops, having way too much to stay, which led to about a year, year and a half standoff between the papacy and the red Chinese government.
	Exactly what we're doing allowing the red Chinese government to have opinions on the church they want to destroy is a little ridiculous.
	But that's Parolin, and he's the Secretary of State.
	And you would have to consider a one-worlder, World Economic Conference, although more institutionally committed than the next one, Luis Antonio Tago, who is a complete, possibly more progressive, more left-wing, more willing to change the church than Francis.
	And he was a very, very big supporter of all of Francis' changes in the church, including a very big opponent of the Latin Mass.
	I can't imagine that Parolin, being an Italian, is an opponent of the Latin Mass.
	If he is, then there's really something wrong with him.
	Matteo Zuppi is the third, and he is also a carbon copy of Francis, it said.
	So you got your first three candidates.
	All of whom are non-traditional, which is kind of sad because the church needs a correction to reestablish its roots, particularly since that's where its new people are coming from.
	If you want to make a cold, hard-headed decision on how to build a church of Christ, the new people they're getting, including not just in Africa, but in America.
	We're coming to them for stability, because with all of the problems that France has created, you take a look at all the problems in the other establishment churches, and the Catholic Church looks like, excuse the expression, a rock.
	Even a wobbly rock is better than no rock at all.
	If this church were to stabilize on a set of very firm moral principles that have been their moral principles for 2,000 years, The church would grow.
	I mean, it's growing already, but it would grow dramatically.
	Now, the last three that have the very small numbers are the conservative candidates, probably in the reverse order.
	Peter Turkson is probably the most conservative because, by and large, the African bishops and archbishops are fiercely conservative and extremely loyal.
	They stood up to the Pope when the Pope said you can bless gay marriage.
	Now, I'm okay with it.
	But I understand why the more conservative religious people wouldn't be.
	And also, he is a very, very strong supporter of the Latin Mass.
	Isn't that funny?
	An African is a bigger supporter of the Latin Mass than Zuppi and Paralene, two Italians.
	So, right away, he becomes my candidate.
	And I liked the other one, too.
	I think Turkson has taken over for, remind me of the name of the other African, the Ghanaian bishop.
	Sarah.
	Sarah.
	It's because he's 79. Which, you know, maybe he's not the healthiest guy.
	A guy 79 wouldn't be bad if he lived four or five years.
	But a guy 79 that dies in a year or two would be a terrible mistake.
	So it may be that Turkson, who looks rather hardy here, and we saw a picture of him actually signing.
	And he looks like he's in good shape.
	I think he's about 75. He's not a baby.
	But that's almost exactly the right age.
	I would say that they're going to look for a Cardinal that can give him anywhere from seven.
	Six minimum, 10 maximum.
	I don't think they're sufficiently stabilized to want to pope for 15 or 20 years, which counts out maybe the best candidate.
	Right.
	And not because of his name, but because of his age.
	Pizza bottle.
	Oh, he's younger.
	65. And look at him.
	Look at the shape he's in.
	And he's also about 6 '2", so he's going to get one of those big robes.
	And he's the patriarch of Jerusalem, who offered himself in exchange for the hostages.
	He said, "I'll let you Muslims take me." And that group of Muslim, Hamas, they hate Jews, but they don't like Christians very much either.
	Muhammad told them to kill both, by the way.
	He didn't make a distinction between the Jews and the Christians.
	Hated the Jews completely for one set of reasons, hated the Christians for another set of reasons, and hated everybody but the people that converted or gave them money.
	And Peter Erdo is from Hungary and also clearly an institutional supporter of the Latin mass, wants to keep the moral values of the church, does not want them.
	Wokerized.
	I made up a word, Tim.
	Well, it makes sense to me.
	That's a new word we're going to use.
	Yeah, going woke.
	Wokerized.
	We were surprised last night by the attack on...
	Well, let's take a look.
	That's the way it works.
	Wow.
	Is that a real picture?
	That's a real picture.
	Wow.
	It's a real picture.
	That's what it looks like.
	Empty.
	It's quite beautiful.
	And you can see up here Michelangelo's frescoes, including the creation.
	Imagine he did it on his back.
	Italians are so talented.
	Particularly from the hills outside of Outside of Florence, like my grandfather came from.
	You know, many of the Cardinals, when they walked in, were doing this.
	The Cardinals were.
	And we were just there about five weeks ago, and my head was hurting.
	I walked all the way from the back to this little place back here.
	I walked all the way from here, you know, from the back.
	This is the private part.
	This is the chapel part.
	There's a gate, and then there's the public part.
	So you walk along here.
	And I walked all the way up to there, and I swear to God, I must have bumped into five people because I was walking like this.
	I can imagine.
	And how do you not take photos when you're in there?
	I don't know, but you're not supposed to.
	I think everyone.
	I bet some of these cardinals have.
	I'll dig out a few when we have them.
	I'm not sure I want to show them because I think the Monsignor who gave me...
	Prayer beads from John Paul II might be angry at me if I took the pictures.
	No, he can't be angry.
	He was with me when I did it.
	Yeah.
	Yeah, yeah.
	But then somebody came up eventually.
	Somebody else could.
	Somebody else.
	One of the guards came up eventually and said, you're not supposed to do that.
	Maybe you didn't hear him.
	It was after we came out.
	Sorry, I don't speak Italian.
	I wouldn't be able to.
	No, we didn't say it in Italian.
	That would be my way.
	How do you not?
	They must know.
	People are.
	I think God would understand.
	God will let that one slide.
	That's the three rows.
	Short, medium, and tall.
	So if it's Pizzabala, that's going to be the one right here.
	Or maybe Paraly.
	He looks pretty tall, too.
	But if it's Toggle, it'll be this one.
	And if it's Turchin, it'll be that one.
	The other ones on the other side, are those if we elect a kid?
	Those are tiny.
	That's his stall.
	Oh, those are just shirts on the other side.
	Yes.
	But this is the main...
	The robe, the vest.
	The cardinals wear red, and he wears white.
	Right.
	The pope wears white.
	Well, they'll have all those ready.
	They'll have a nice Italian tailor ready to go.
	Italian tailor will make sure that they're just right.
	You would guess, unless maybe...
	Does a new pope maybe get to bring their own tailor?
	Let's say a cardinal has a tailor, right?
	If you have to Francis, it would be...
	Frowned upon had a tailor.
	I don't think Francis had a tailor.
	I have a feeling he didn't.
	You start to look like the kind of people that work for the State Department.
	Yeah, they'll have one there.
	Foppy State Department type people.
	Right, yeah.
	You know they've got their own tailors.
	Oh, of course.
	They're doing good because they're so ridiculous.
	Well, and also, I think, is Prada still doing the shoes?
	Are they going to go back to Prada?
	He never wore them.
	Well, I know Francis didn't.
	Francis wore sneakers.
	Really?
	Can we go back to the Prada shoes?
	I have a feeling nobody's going back.
	It'll be tough to go back.
	I will.
	If anybody went back, it would be Paralene, who's the Secretary of State.
	He's probably got it.
	The State Department in the Vatican is like our State Department.
	It's filled with a bunch of pretentious phonies.
	Yeah.
	Right.
	I think it happens when you're a diplomat.
	You're constantly selling yourself.
	Right.
	Even if you're a cardinal, you're selling out to the Red Chinese.
	Well, I'm very curious, Mayor, on what sort of internal politicking is going on over at the Vatican tonight and tomorrow.
	If you want my, and please don't use it for betting.
	I would feel very bad if you did.
	If you want my analysis, if it happens tomorrow morning, it's going to be Paralino Taggart.
	The minute you get to the next two ballots and it's not them, it can start to move away from them.
	And here's the problem they have, right?
	The progressives, and this could be very dangerous because then they come up with another progressive.
	But the progressives have the majority of the votes.
	They have 46, 50. They have 57% of the vote is going to progressive candidates.
	But it's three of them.
	So they may very well shoot themselves down, but somebody else.
	But if those 57 are voting for those three because they're progressive, then they're going to be available for second-tier progressive candidates, not for liberal candidates, not for conservative candidates.
	The conservative vote on the board.
	It's 24%.
	And when are they going to start calling racism from the left?
	It's the Africans.
	They don't like the Africans.
	I mean, if I could do a campaign here, I'd start with the racism thing.
	You better vote for Turks.
	Right.
	That's how the left operates.
	You're saying Sarah looks angry?
	What are you saying?
	The African bishops are the most friendly.
	They're smiling all the time.
	They're smart as hell, you know.
	These people are all like three, four, five language people.
	Yes.
	Oh, right.
	Three-quarters of the cardinals speak at least three languages.
	And the top guys do like four or five.
	Which is more common outside of the U.S., I will say.
	Yeah, it's more common outside the U.S. And, of course, they're training in the seminary.
	Allow us for that.
	They got a lot of time to study.
	You know, I wish.
	That's why one reason to keep Latin is just to have a common language among those.
	Well, I think the training in Latin certainly helps them master all the Latin languages very quickly.
	Yeah.
	So now you've got four or five languages.
	Yeah.
	It certainly helps with English, with English vocabulary.
	What do you think the common denominator is down there?
	What language do you think?
	Latin.
	Well, not every cardinal.
	No, it's Italian, actually.
	Yeah, so I would say.
	Basically, if you become a cardinal, you learn Italian.
	Don't you think they still, for the most part, know Latin?
	I actually believe that that is not the case.
	No, if you're a cardinal now, chances are you went to the church 40, 50 years ago.
	But it has been like, no, not everyone, like in some of these areas, they don't have a good Latin education.
	These are cardinals, though.
	Well, I know, but that's what was funny was Pope Benedict, when he said something in Latin, You could gauge the reaction among the Cardinals and who knew Latin and who didn't.
	Because there would be a reaction, like he would say, pretty crazy, not crazy, but important news.
	It could be this group of Cardinals that might be a little less.
	It's interesting.
	Depending on how you evaluate this, he, Francis, appointed non-traditional Cardinals.
	Right.
	He didn't appoint a cardinal in Los Angeles.
	He didn't appoint a cardinal in Chicago.
	Do you think we have a transgender cardinal?
	Yes, in small cities.
	Being a cardinal often meant going to the seminary and having, as a student, going to the seminary in Rome.
	American cardinals go to the American college in Rome.
	If you graduate from that college, you probably got a 70-80% better chance of being a cardinal.
	It's a little like going to the military academy.
	Right.
	And that's true all over the world.
	They have academies at Rome.
	Like those African cardinals, those are all extremely well-educated men.
	Right.
	And where would they be educated?
	They're educated in Rome.
	They're educated in Rome from what age?
	Maybe from college on.
	Okay.
	Maybe high school even.
	Yeah.
	They make a decision early on, the ones that they think have a future.
	And they bring them to Rome.
	Right.
	And from early on, they become multilingual.
	Yes.
	And from early on, they learn the Vatican.
	Yes.
	And it's like they have connections.
	Right.
	From way back.
	List of cardinals.
	There's a very good book that you could also read.
	It's very old.
	It's called The Cardinal.
	And it's about a cardinal of Boston.
	And he is educated in Rome.
	It also was a movie that wasn't successful, unfortunately, that didn't do well and did not do a great job to the novel, which was one of the great novels of the 1950s.
	It's called The Cardinal, and it describes the history of this fictitious Cardinal of Boston and explains, again, what happened in Rome because he's educated in Rome.
	So, the India, Pakistan, are they going to have a war or aren't they going to have a war?
	Here's what happened, right?
	The...
	Oh.
	The...
	Mayor.
	Yes.
	Before we start this new subject, I do want to mention we have a very special guest.
	Oh, who do we have?
	And he's been on for a couple of minutes.
	Your longtime friend.
	I'll let you do the introduction.
	Oh, is Joe already?
	Mr. Joe.
	DeGeneva.
	There he is.
	One of our great lawyers.
	Joe DeGeneva.
	Viva il Papa!
	Are you betting on this or do you think it's sacrilegious to bet on it?
	I was actually thinking it might be a cardinal from Africa, but it looks like the fix is in for the progressives.
	You look at the betting line, they've got about 56% of the vote.
	I would take a Cardinal, any one of them from Africa.
	They're all nice and traditional.
	Yeah, well, I'm afraid the numbers aren't there, but it's going to be fascinating to watch it.
	By the way, a great movie that Victoria and I just watched last night is called The Conclave.
	Oh, yeah, yeah.
	I think it's a great movie, except for the ending.
	It gets a little weird, right?
	Yeah, but who knows who he made at Cardinal?
	You think we're going to have a pope that has ovaries?
	I don't know.
	It's hard to tell these days.
	I wanted to ask you, Joe, what you thought of Senator Tillis and his effort to block U.S. Attorney Martin from your old job.
	Joe was one of the greatest U.S. attorneys in the history of the District of Columbia.
	And it's a little different than U.S. attorney anywhere else.
	So I was a U.S. attorney in New York, and I did only federal prosecutions, federal cases.
	The U.S. attorney in the district is a district attorney, too.
	That's right.
	He's the district attorney for a big city, and he's the U.S. attorney for a big federal government.
	And it's a tough job because you have to be two things.
	So what do you think?
	Why is Tillis doing this?
	Well, Tillis is a very strange senator, and he suffers from January 6 syndrome.
	He was present in the Capitol that day and took particular umbrage at all of the events and has apparently never gotten over it and has not sought counseling to get out from under it.
	And I'm watching him object to Ed Martin because he represented.
	Because Ed represented January 6th defendants is ludicrous.
	What would he expect people to do?
	Not be represented by a lawyer?
	What I think Tillis is he's not a sophisticated senator.
	He's kind of a guy who really lacks the depth necessary to be a senator.
	And you see it in an issue like this.
	There was a way to handle this.
	I think Tillis has become an embarrassment.
	But I don't know if Ed's going to make it or not.
	They say that Tillis has support among some of the other...
	Should I say rhinos or whatever?
	I mean, some of the other not terribly loyal senators.
	Right.
	I feel very, very...
	All of them have decided to stay quiet because they don't want to offend Trump.
	And they're happy to have Tillis do it.
	The problem for Ed is that Tillis is on the Judiciary Committee.
	And if he loses Tillis, he can't get out of committee.
	Well, I particularly am offended for the grounds on which he's doing it.
	Because it's showing no...
	He hasn't educated himself on all of the new facts that have come out about January 6th.
	That cast a tremendous doubt on the narrative that was created.
	I mean, for example, somebody should be investigating the murder of Ashley Babbitt.
	I don't know if he is, but he should be investigating the murder of Ashley Babbitt.
	There's no statute of limitations on homicide.
	That's correct.
	And that homicide case is as good as the day I gave it to them.
	Maria and I boxed up all the evidence we had and gave it to the U.S. attorney then in the district because I said to myself, They may cover up a lot of things, but they won't cover up a murder.
	Well, they did.
	And also, a lot of those cases, you know the QAnon shaman?
	If you look at that, the cops were laughing at him.
	And they opened the door of the House for him to get in.
	They opened it and let him in.
	How is that a trespass?
	The guy opens the door to the House.
	I think the case that bothers me the most is Ashley Babbitt.
	The captain, Captain Bird, who shot her, if you look at his history with the department, he left his gun in a bathroom in the Capitol.
	He had all sorts of problems as an offertor, and yet you see him constantly promoted.
	He got hundreds of thousands of dollars in payments.
	They they hit him for seven months down at one of the Air Force bases around the Capitol to quote unquote protect him.
	I think that case should be reopened.
	I agree with you 100%.
	Well, I'm glad.
	And give my regards to Vicky, huh?
	Will do.
	We'll see you soon.
	You bet.
	All right.
	Now, there's one great lawyer, I'll tell you.
	That's the reason the Teamsters Union has straightened out.
	You just saw him.
	We brought the case right at the end of my time as U.S. attorney, the civil case.
	In fact, it was brought by Randy Mastro, who is now the chief deputy mayor in New York under Adams.
	And he was my chief deputy mayor.
	And Randy and I brought the case against the Teamsters.
	And the judge entered, you're now aware of what these injunctions are, the judge entered an injunction, ultimately, that they were mafia-controlled and therefore removed their entire board.
	And we were allowed to appoint independent, neutral board members, and they remained with the Teamsters for about seven or eight years with Joe in charge.
	And he converted them.
	Not only did he do that, Central States Pension Fund was the major investor in Las Vegas.
	The major investor in Central States Pension Fund were not the pension funds of the teamsters.
	It was the illegal drug and gambling money of the mafia, which is how the mafia controlled most of the casinos.
	The famous deal with Frank Sinatra that you have to perform there five times a year.
	So, he broke that all.
	Got the mafia money out of the central state venture fund, got the mafia out of Las Vegas, and it wasn't turned back to them until that was all certified.
	And now you can disagree with it as a union, but it's a straight, honest, and it's always been a patriotic union.
	Even when it was mafia, it was very American and very patriotic.
	It was never one of the communist unions like the teachers.
	So he did a great job.
	That's Joe DeGeneres.
	So we're going to take a short break and we'll be right back.
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	Well, here we are back at St. Peter's.
	Here we are back in Palm Beach.
	America's Mayor Live, and that, of course, is the square of St. Peter's.
	Now the Cardinals are resting.
	They should be.
	It's five hours later in Italy, right?
	Six.
	Six hours later.
	So six hours later, it's the middle of the night.
	And they'll be up again, you know, four in the morning.
	And it probably is going to wake me up because I want to see if they're going to do two in the morning.
	They're doing two in the morning, two in the afternoon from now on.
	Oh, is that right?
	For us, our time.
	So what time is the next vote our time will be?
	You're saying two to ten?
	Eastern time?
	Yeah, the next vote, our time will be...
	Let's go back from noon.
	So what time?
	That's 6 in the morning for us?
	Oh, exciting.
	Right in the morning, bright and early.
	So they're going to take 2 before lunch, and they take lunch at 12 or 1 Italian time.
	So that's right, Mayor.
	The next vote will take place around 10.30 a.m. local time.
	That's 4.30 a.m. here on the East Coast.
	And then probably everyone two hours later.
	And they're expecting the second round around noon.
	Around noon.
	Yes.
	And then they're going to take lunch.
	And they're going to come back late then.
	Then they're going to come back around 4 o 'clock.
	Yep.
	4 or 5 o 'clock their time.
	Right.
	If neither vote is successful, the ones we just mentioned, the next two ballots will take place around 5.30 p.m. and 7 p.m.
	Their local time at the Vatican.
	So that would be around noontime, right before noon and at noon, our time.
	Right.
	That would be about 11.30 and 1 p.m.
	So basically, it's three days, two ballots in the morning, Italian morning, two ballots in Italian early evening, late afternoon, early evening.
	Then that repeats itself.
	Two ballots, two ballots, two ballots.
	After three days of no Pope, They are permitted to and recommended, they don't have to do it, to take a day off.
	Yes.
	And a day off for prayer, not for campaigning.
	Right.
	That day off is going to be handled like a retreat would be handled.
	Right.
	Where there'll be even sermons given to them.
	No campaigning?
	You don't expect any campaigning?
	It isn't the same kind of campaigning.
	They don't like give out...
	Like pamphlets.
	They're not online and they don't make robocalls.
	This is Rudy Giuliani calling you in favor of Cardinal Turkson.
	I've known Cardinal Turkson for quite some time.
	He's a conservative like you and me.
	I love the Latin mass and he's going to let the Latin mass come back in.
	Don't you think these Italians are really jackasses when they're against the Latin mass?
	I do.
	I'm Italian and I'm embarrassed.
	So vote for Cardinal Turkson.
	And if he can vote more than once, please do it.
	That's a good copy.
	I like that.
	I'm voting for that guy.
	If I could vote.
	It's about time we have an African cardinal.
	That's right.
	I mean, what is this, racism of some kind?
	What's the fastest growing part of the Catholic Church?
	Is it Africa or Southeast Asia?
	You won't make a black pope?
	Right.
	Maybe we can get to some of those weak liberals.
	That way.
	Make him start feeling guilty.
	You can't campaign.
	We could go get one of those crooked Democratic types.
	God would forgive us if it was the will of the Holy Spirit.
	Well, these Democrats, all of a sudden, they're all big cats.
	Sometimes the Holy Spirit works in strange ways.
	Well, they're such devout Catholics now.
	You know, they're so offended by that Pope AI image, right?
	Because they're so devoted to the faith.
	Well, Mayor, on that note, speaking of great Catholics, I think you know the next gentleman we're about to have on.
	Yeah, I kind of like disagreed with this choice.
	This was the best choice.
	You're now going to see the best choice that President Trump made.
	That's right.
	And let's bring him on.
	Andrew Giuliani.
	Andrew Giuliani, who was appointed.
	Well, you know, I'm having trouble hearing you here.
	We're at the congressional soccer game, obviously pulling for the Republicans here.
	First, I guess, soccer game.
	We're not calling it football per President Trump.
	We're calling it soccer still, which is good.
	That was one of the first recommendations from the task force.
	This is soccer, and we're going to do great at soccer, but this is soccer here, and we're pulling for the Republicans tonight to make sure.
	They've got a few more goals than the Democrats over here.
	But it's very exciting.
	It was a great honor to have America's Mayor Rudy Giuliani at my swearing-in at the Department of Homeland Security.
	I guess it was less than a week ago now.
	To watch him dance his daughter on the dance floor to give his daughter away was certainly something special.
	And then to be in the White House yesterday, to be with President Trump, Vice President Vance, and many of the Cabinet members.
	To hear the start of this task force, how important this is from a safety and security perspective.
	I know there are a few people in American history that are more equipped to talk about the safety and security aspect of this than America's mayor.
	So I don't know if this would be an informal advisory position or whatever, but I think I'd like to ask you, would you be willing to be an advisor to the task force for the World Cup for the White House in 2026?
	I have a particular bias in favor of the director.
	Yeah.
	Yeah, I think it was the best choice President Trump made.
	Well, thank you.
	Thank you, Dad.
	You got a score?
	You got a score in that game?
	You got a score.
	Yeah, Republicans are up.
	I don't know if you can see it in the background.
	Two to one Republicans right now.
	So we're off to a good start over here.
	We got a ways to go.
	Two to one.
	I was kind of pulling...
	I was pulling for a shutout, to be honest.
	So I'm a little disappointed already.
	But as long as we get the win, then that's okay.
	Well, congratulations, Andrew.
	Congratulations, Andrew.
	And you're going to be in very good hands.
	Thank you.
	Hey, I love you when I can hear you.
	I can't wait to come back on more.
	And God bless you, Dad.
	God bless you.
	What a great choice.
	Love you, too.
	Well, Andrew is the director of...
	This is a position...
	From the Homeland Security, because it basically involves security.
	It was yesterday.
	Oh, yeah, we have pictures of it.
	We'll show it when we come back.
	So he's a director of the World Cup for America.
	And they're going to have something like a dozen venues.
	Now, you can't imagine.
	I mean, this is a security.
	I'm not going to say nightmare, because it's much worse than a nightmare.
	Think of one Super Bowl.
	Multiply it by 12. And not just one game.
	So in New York, I think there'll be six or seven games.
	So it's approximately 12 different Super Bowl locations and about four or five Super Bowl games in those locations on different days.
	That's the security that has to be provided.
	And you're going to have countries there that bring...
	Like, I did security for the Asian Games.
	I've done some Olympic security.
	And I've done security for big world events.
	Not just as mayor.
	I did that as mayor every year with 150 world leaders coming in for the U.N. But I did it as a business.
	And I used to describe it as like when you have an Olympics.
	Which sounds great, right?
	We're going to have the Olympics in Boston.
	We're going to have the Olympics in Los Angeles.
	We have the Olympics in Paris.
	You bring all the problems of the world there.
	Not just your problems.
	Because all the countries in the world are there.
	So if you have separatists on the border of Spain and France, they may decide to come and blow up one of the two teams.
	I mean, the last real terrible attack was on the Israeli team in Germany.
	It wasn't in Israel.
	Because the problems of the world come to that venue.
	And here's why Andrew has got one hell of a job and the people with it.
	They inherit an America thanks to the trade of Biden that has an unknown number of terrorists.
	We can't possibly have tracked down and recorded in any meaningful way the number of terrorists that came in over the four years of 15 million people coming in who we didn't know.
	And we have no idea how many of them were terrorists.
	It would have to be at least 500,000, 600,000.
	It could be 2 million.
	How would we know?
	We never saw them.
	And why would we think the terrorists wouldn't take advantage of it?
	They wouldn't be terrorists if they didn't take advantage of it, or they wouldn't be terrorists we should worry about.
	The terrorists took advantage of it.
	The cartels, of course, managed it.
	And also, this will be exacerbated by the fact that the connection between ISIS and some of the terrorist groups and the Mexican cartels is an over 25-year connection.
	These are not, like, they weren't new to each other when...
	When we had that criminal president.
	They were doing this stuff back on 9-11.
	But the cartels weren't as sophisticated then.
	They weren't anywhere near as rich.
	And even the terrorist groups weren't as sophisticated.
	But they were paying the cartels money.
	I'm talking about bin Laden.
	They were paying money to come in over the Mexican border.
	And the only ones we ever tracked ever were over the northern border.
	If you think, well, they weren't coming in, they were coming in much more successfully in the southern border.
	At least we were able to get some kind of record of them from the northern border.
	I remember a major entry in the northern border that almost led to the canceling of the 2000 New Year celebration in New York, the Millennium Celebration.
	And that was bin Laden.
	That was while Clinton was bombing Serbia instead of responding to bin Laden.
	Bin Laden was bombing the hell out of us, including one of our ships.
	He declared war on us.
	And we paid no attention to him, and we decided to do something that really basically violates, maybe if not the light of the spirit of international law, which was to...
	To bomb Serbia in order to help the Muslim country.
	And really, we did it because Clinton was getting a lot of criticism for not having dealt with what was regarded as the Serbian attacks and inhumane treatment of the Bosnians.
	And that was five years earlier.
	Clinton didn't do anything about it.
	And Clinton was criticized for that.
	Well, that one, maybe he should have intervened in.
	This one, it was really just a war between two countries.
	We had no business being involved in it.
	There's a documentary that you should look at.
	Basically, his own people say that.
	Strobe Talbot, who was one of his major envoys, says this was a terrible mistake.
	Really bought on America.
	So when we say, like...
	Russia was the first invasion, the first invasion of a European country since Hitler.
	First attack by a foreign country on a European country with the United States on Serbia since Hitler.
	And don't you know that that's used against us?
	But Clinton was not paying attention to Ben Laden.
	I do not believe September 11 would have happened if Clinton had been Trump.
	If Clinton had done to Ben Laden what Trump did to Yemen over the last two months, when he took down the coal, that was an act of war.
	Not only was it an act of war, he declared war on us.
	You know what we did?
	Nothing.
	We defended the lives of our sailors.
	It was so important to Clinton that I guess it was hard to pay attention with bombing Serbia and having to deal with Monica Lewinsky.
	It must have been hard to pay attention to something like the safety and security of his country.
	You can see I'm very bitter about it.
	And I'm very bitter about it because they treat him like he was some kind of a president.
	We virtually didn't have a president.
	Not in terms of an average American president would have protected us against bin Laden.
	You take any one of those presidents in the 19th century whose names we forget, you think they would have allowed an attack on an American war vessel?
	I mean, Jefferson went to war for it.
	And we were a little teeny country then.
	I'm not even sure we had a Navy.
	We didn't have the Marines.
	From the halls of Montezuma to the shores of Tripoli, that's how we developed the Marines.
	Meanwhile, this guy had the biggest, strongest, most powerful military in the world.
	And he can't defend his men.
	Like, please take this seriously.
	This is not a partisan statement.
	This is a statement of a man who loves America.
	There's something seriously wrong with the modern Democratic Party.
	Not the many people who belong to it, many of whom probably don't pay attention, who are brainwashed.
	But the leadership, I mean, it's not confined to Biden or Obama.
	The whole deterioration, I believe, of morality and decency in the Democratic Party started with the guy that cheated his way through governor of Arkansas.
	I mean, there wasn't much money left in Arkansas after Bill and Hillary left.
	Slick Willie.
	Yeah, I mean, you can tell the stories of the shakedowns they used to do with her law firm, with her Rose law firm.
	You had to hire them.
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	But they had the media on their side.
	And the guy who committed suicide who knew the whole story about it?
	That was the beginning of the suicide.
	A lot of suspicious deaths around the Clintons.
	Anybody who possibly has evidence against the Clintons.
	And I'm not doubting their suicides.
	How do I know?
	Yeah, right.
	I mean, there are coincidences.
	30, 40, 50 coincidences.
	A lot.
	There's a lot there.
	So let's look at...
	I don't feel like I explain what happened in Pakistan.
	And India properly.
	And I am...
	There are two possibilities now, right?
	So we originally...
	Originally, there was a terrorist attack in Kashmir on Indian Hindus by a Muslim extremist terrorist group.
	That hailed from Pakistan.
	Now, Kashmir, there are two parts to Kashmir.
	There's the Kashmir that belongs to Pakistan, which is up here, okay?
	And you see this blue thing here?
	This is the Kashmir that's administered by India.
	Now, both of them claim it.
	And both of them will go back to the division that was made, a very stupid, dumb, almost as dumb as Clinton's decision.
	Over the Balkans.
	And I'm a very, very big critic, historically, of all of the European, including American, decisions to redraw maps, which go back to the Congress of Vienna.
	And I believe I could trace every major war over the last two centuries to those decisions.
	It's tragic.
	I mean, the one that we accept pretty easily and don't think about it much is that the treaty that ended the First World War, in spite of Hitler being a horrible person, but the reason we never take advantage of that is because of the ridiculous nature of that treaty and how punitive it was and how arrogant it was.
	It just basically created countries.
	In the Middle East, in Europe, with built-in animosity and a definite future of war.
	It's as if we had accepted the two-state solution in Israel, which comes out of Clinton also.
	You would have 20 years of war.
	You have a country.
	You set up a country called Palestine.
	That is committed to the destruction of their neighbor.
	And a country that has to destroy Palestine before Palestine destroys them.
	Well, this is what we've been doing.
	This is what arrogant Europeans and Americans, mostly of the State Department variety, they've been drawing lines for people in countries they know nothing about.
	They believe they do.
	And the ones with English and European accents sound like they're very smart, but they're not.
	They're really very dopey.
	So here's what they did.
	India was made up of all of this, right up to the China border.
	It was all India.
	However, in India, there was a minority Muslim population and a majority Hindu population.
	And when they existed as a colony of...
	The United Kingdom, Britain, the British Empire.
	There was turmoil between them, but not outright warfare.
	When they fought for and obtained, you know, through Gandhi, right, their independence, the UK decided they were going to draw the lines for them.
	And I believe, and I'm going to have to go back and check this, I believe Churchill, this is his one big mistake.
	He did something you should never do.
	He set up a religious country.
	He set up a country based just on religion.
	So he took all of or made available to all of the Muslims in India.
	He cut out a piece of, two pieces of India.
	One on the eastern side and one on the western side.
	That also is hard to believe.
	I mean, they're separated by about 800 miles.
	And he said all the Muslims can go live there.
	Leave India and go live in that part.
	Of India, which is now going to be called Pakistan.
	Well, many left.
	Many didn't leave.
	But what's left behind was tremendous anger.
	Anger by the people that were forced to go to Pakistan and thrown out of their country because they were Muslim.
	And anger by the Indians that a portion of their country was taken away.
	A big portion of their country was taken away from.
	Up here.
	The status of Kashmir, the blue area here, was never resolved, and there was a big war between Pakistan and India over it.
	And the war was settled, and Kashmir was considered an autonomous zone, but India was put in charge of it.
	So it's never been resolved.
	The Pakistanis and the Indians do not agree on who controls Pakistan.
	The Indians control it.
	So several weeks ago...
	The 20-plus Hindus were killed by Pakistani or, yeah, Pakistani Muslim terrorist group.
	This goes on all the time, but this was a large number, and it was right in the open.
	And the Indian government, quite rightly, said we have to retaliate for that.
	And they retaliated yesterday, and they retaliated big time.
	They hit 70. Seven or nine targets.
	They hit one, two, three, four, five, six, seven, eight, nine targets.
	And the targets are all along the border between Kashmir and Pakistan.
	And they hit what they believe are terrorist encampments.
	And they believe they did not hit...
	They say they didn't hit cities.
	They didn't on purpose hit civilians.
	And the aim of it was to basically do what Israel did, to render useful the terrorist encampment.
	And these were major airstrikes, and they were highly successful.
	Operation Sindor.
	Now, you have to understand both these countries.
	India, Pakistan have armies.
	Both these countries have been at war with each other, major wars and small wars.
	And both these countries have nuclear weapons.
	But don't think that both these countries are equal.
	India is much more powerful, much richer.
	If they have nuclear weapons, there's no question that India's are of an advanced variety.
	Pakistan, just scratching.
	And the armies are also.
	Not equivalent at all.
	India, first of all, much bigger, not only richer.
	And India has been at war since it started.
	Now, they used to be an ally of the Soviet Union, India.
	And we were an ally of Pakistan.
	When the Muslim extremists started to develop, Pakistan now was used the way Bosnia-Herzegovina was used.
	Somehow our State Department favors Bosnia-Herzegovina over Serbia, even though two of the 9-11 terrorists came out of Bosnia-Herzegovina.
	Pakistan was used big time as a training ground for Islamic terrorists all over the world.
	So they have their own internal Islamic terrorist groups to terrorize India, and then they contribute to the Islamic terrorist movement all over the world.
	And they're a great place to go and train.
	So it was used by bin Laden.
	It was used by all the major terrorist groups.
	So it became a haven of terrorism.
	Because of that, and because the governments of India became more conservative and capitalistic and wanted to move out of the socialism that kept them one of the poorest countries in the world, over a period of time, the alliances switched.
	And the period of time was from about, under Clinton.
	Clinton through Bush.
	The alliances switched.
	Pakistan became a big ally of Russia and of China.
	Anti-American.
	India, increasingly one of our stronger allies.
	And under Modi, big time.
	Now, you have to credit Bush with making the key deal.
	I was in India to celebrate that.
	The key deal that flipped that.
	And that was allowing India the peaceful use of nuclear weapons.
	We still object to their nuclear weapons, but we allow them the peaceful use of nuclear weapons.
	And it actually was very, very brilliant to do because it has us involved in their nuclear security.
	So now we've had two hits, right?
	We had the terrorism hit.
	So Pakistan got a shot at India.
	India hit back the way Israel hits back.
	You know, the terrorist hit was of one dimension that they did was unbelievable.
	They just basically, they took out, I think, every terrorist installation they know of.
	And they did it quickly, and they did it surgically, and they have a much better air force.
	And also the level of corruption in Pakistan, even when they were an ally of ours, was disgraceful.
	I mean, many of the corruption cases that led to the Foreign Corruption Act come from Boudou during his reign in Pakistan.
	Even though he was an ally of ours, all of our American military industrial complex in order to build airports and airfields were paying them off like Big time.
	I mean, major amounts of bribes.
	So when people say, you know, the American military industrial complex, will you please go back to Eisenhower because he got it right right from the beginning.
	It's one of the major sources of foreign corruption through our military distribution of our military.
	And then when we say things like, oh, all that money we gave to Ukraine, they bought from American companies.
	That's how the kickbacks happen.
	McConnell was saying, I don't know if McConnell said that because he's demented now, or because given the fact that his father-in-law is rich as a result of the red Chinese, this has just lost all sense of perspective.
	And the old man has given him well over $5 million, and he's a billionaire because of red China.
	That's our former majority leader.
	But you don't know that, because they never report that.
	It's not important that you know that his father-in-law and the father of a cabinet member in two administrations is a Taiwanese who became a billionaire based on the Red Chinese government.
	Now, you know enough history to know that's impossible.
	A Taiwanese is not going to be favored and become a billionaire under the Red China unless he's a traitor to Taiwan.
	Right.
	Which he is.
	And if you take a look at McConnell's positions, he used to be very hard against China.
	Then he became, you know, a China sucker.
	Right.
	And if you want to know why he opposes Trump so much, that's why he opposes Trump so much.
	Cut out this other stuff.
	The old grandfather.
	I mean, they all hate him for going after China.
	All that China purchased.
	Business people and politicians hate Trump.
	He lost a massive amount of campaign money by going against China in 17 and 18 and 19. And I know some of the people who walked out on him.
	And here's one of the reasons I admire him so much.
	Basically told him to go to hell.
	He's our only president that's ever done anything about China.
	Now, in fairness, some at the beginning, I don't blame Nixon and Kissinger.
	That was an opportunity to take.
	It was even more justifiable than teaming up with Stalin to try to win the war.
	What I say, you get to the 90s, if you don't start seeing that it isn't working, that this idea that you're going to make China into a...
	capitalist country not so unrealistic there was a chance we could have made it into a capitalist country but that was going to convert to a liberal democracy well then you're starting to be really foolish and as people started to be foolish China started to spread money around so that if they started to think we should oppose China they would be they would be completely fooled right And Mayor, you know, bringing it back, including, you know, Keeping China in the conversation.
	With this India-Pakistan conflict, I don't know how much people realize that this is also kind of a U.S. versus China issue in terms of who's arming who.
	China now accounts for over 80% of Pakistan's armament, right?
	And we account for most of India.
	And we're most of India.
	So this is another...
	Also our training.
	We've done a lot to train the Indian Air Force.
	Right.
	And so that's another element of this conflict, right?
	It changes things from even like six years ago.
	So six years ago, there was a little skirmish.
	But it was enough at the time to cause great concern.
	Mike Pompeo, I believe, was woken up in the middle of the night at one point because of movement of nuclear armaments on both sides.
	This is not a time to be leaning on China.
	Right.
	But that's what Pakistan is doing.
	And isn't that what Pakistan is now doing?
	Yeah, but Pakistan's got no place to go.
	Pakistan leans on Russia.
	Russia's, you know, just getting by with the Ukraine war.
	They've got to go get North Koreans to fight the war.
	They're not going to be able to help Pakistan.
	You think China can help Pakistan?
	China is close to a major depression.
	You don't know it because they won't tell you that.
	But China was in deep trouble before the tariffs.
	And Xi Jinping abandoned completely Deng and the other policies that tried to, really what they were trying to do was to create a capitalist economy and a communist political system.
	Our hope was that if he created a capitalist economy, the lure of that and the overwhelming benefits of that that took Europe away from communism, right?
	Right.
	Would happen in China.
	And if you now look at Chinese history, that was never in the cards.
	Never.
	Even the Chinese moderates, who might not have been warriors like Xi Jinping, never intended to change the communist political system.
	They were all dedicated communists.
	Dedicated communists willing to accept a non-socialist economic system, but a communist political system.
	Now you go figure out what that is, and you're good.
	Right.
	But, and then when Xi came along, he just went right back to Mao.
	Right.
	Now we're going to be completely authoritarian.
	The small amount of rights that the Chinese were able to get after Mao, he's taken back completely.
	Right.
	And this is why you have to protest.
	I mean, the students are protesting, the merchants are protesting, and people are starving.
	I mean, the country is half a poor country.
	Right.
	And it's hard to...
	It's not America.
	It's not Europe, even.
	And it's hard to know, right, Mayor?
	How deep are these protests?
	What kind of trouble is Xi in?
	We know he's having issues.
	There's no reason to defer to him.
	Yeah, and like you said, they're not in any position to back up Pakistan in a growing conflict with India.
	There's no way.
	The one place I would like a little more time to make sure we're ready is Taiwan, but I really do think if we had to defend...
	Look, we can be diplomatic and say, are you going to defend Taiwan?
	Well, we don't have an absolute obligation to do it.
	We'll have to consider.
	Of course we've got to defend Taiwan.
	Right.
	Defending Taiwan is defending the Philippines, Japan.
	Those two could be our strongest allies in the next decade.
	Right.
	Japan, Israel, the Philippines.
	Vietnam.
	Your allies come to a great extent when you share common enemies.
	India?
	India, Japan, and the Philippines are in much more conflict with China than we are.
	I mean, China has taken away from the Philippines their ocean.
	They call it the South China Sea.
	It's just as much the South Philippines Sea as it is the South China Sea or the South Japan Sea.
	Right.
	You think I don't realize that?
	Yeah.
	That's why I don't understand this Cardinal Tagle who's Philippine and pro-Red China.
	Oh, he is.
	He agrees with the Chinese pick and vicious.
	Ah, okay.
	Yeah, that's...
	I don't understand how you can be a cardinal in the Catholic Church and want communists to help pick you.
	They don't ask Americans and their opinion of the bishop.
	They don't ask the African countries.
	They don't ask the European countries or even the South American countries.
	They ask the damn communist countries that are dedicated to destroying Christianity.
	Isn't it backwards?
	And the media will okay that.
	When I was a little altar boy, and at the end of a Catholic mass, you prayed for the deliverance of Russia.
	From communism.
	Delivering to the world from atheistic communism.
	Right.
	Because Our Lady of Fatima told us to do that.
	Right.
	Somehow, the brainiacs in the Vatican have forgotten that.
	I mean, India was close.
	The altar boy, but not the cardinals.
	Well, that reminds me, you know, my dad always talks about Latin mass back in the day.
	There's this big push against it out of the Vatican, and I still don't understand.
	I do not understand.
	I don't either.
	I understand these things we're talking about because it comes about through infiltration.
	The Chinese infiltrated the Vatican as much as they've infiltrated the United States.
	Right.
	What do they care about the Latin mass for?
	If I like the Latin mass, why don't they leave me alone?
	I mean, it's the one language I ever really learned.
	I never learned French as well as Latin.
	English and Italian.
	People say, well, what languages can you speak?
	Yeah.
	English and Latin.
	I can't speak Latin.
	Nobody speaks it.
	But I can read it.
	What do you mean no one speaks it?
	Go get my Missal.
	Go get my St. Joseph's Missal.
	What do you mean no one speaks Latin?
	Nobody ever speaks Latin anymore.
	Oh, you're saying, yeah.
	You know why The Passion of the Christ is a great movie?
	Because it's done in the original languages.
	So in The Passion of the Christ...
	You see it?
	Jesus and his disciples speak Aramaic, which is what the Jews spoke.
	They didn't speak Hebrew as a vernacular language.
	Hebrew was like Latin.
	Hebrew was the language of the scholars and the rabbis.
	That's how they debated the Torah.
	The language of the street was Aramaic.
	So Jesus of Nazareth, who was an educated, somewhat educated rabbi, He spoke Hebrew, but in the street, when he was...
	No.
	He said missile.
	The non-Catholic member of the staff.
	Not this kind of missile.
	Stephen gets a pass.
	He's not Catholic.
	It's a black book, a little one.
	It's a book, Stephen.
	It's on the...
	The bed stand.
	No, no.
	It's on the...
	The thing below the television.
	Oh, okay.
	This goes back to 1962.
	This is what they're fighting over.
	So what point are you willing to, let's say, we'll use the word work, not capitulate, to a communist regime if it's an effort to grow the church?
	At what point are these missionaries, right?
	Think back to the old days, the missionaries that came over to the...
	The early United States and traversed the waterways and met with these Indians.
	I'm willing to do what Jesus did with the Roman Empire.
	It's not that the church should be allowed to function and teach its teachings and stay out of politics.
	I think it's a little complicated with communism, and maybe I'm wrong about that, and I have to think about that.
	Remember, John Paul II is a saint.
	Because he opposed communism.
	And he helped defeat communism.
	So if you were to say who were the three people that had the most to do with delivering Europe from communism without firing a shot, it's Ronald Reagan, Margaret Thatcher, and Pope John II, who was a Pole who grew up under the terrors of first Nazism and then communism.
	And it's almost impossible.
	For a man of faith to stay out of politics.
	He was put in jail by the communists.
	By the communists.
	I mean, there's absolutely no way you can square communism with really any religion.
	That must be going crazy.
	Go ahead.
	Oh, well, I was just going to say, there's no way to remove yourself if you have faith from the political process, because so many of the issues are very fundamental to how a lot of people believe.
	You're a little more complicated than Jesus right there.
	Yeah, and advocacy from the church.
	I appreciate it a lot.
	They help us out a lot in a lot of situations.
	I wouldn't mind a little bit more help sometimes, especially...
	The Catholic Church could vote a little bit more Republican.
	That'd be a start.
	In America.
	I think you're right.
	I think we're getting them back, and I guess we lost them under Kennedy.
	Maybe before that, right?
	But now they're gone.
	The Catholics were always Democrats.
	Working class back in the day.
	The Catholics are mostly made up of immigrants.
	Working class immigrants.
	They're all made up of immigrants.
	You start with the Germans.
	The Germans and the Austrians are pretty much 50-50 Lutheran and Roman Catholic.
	Depends on the part of Southern Germany tends to be more Catholic and Northern Germany tends to be more Lutheran.
	Because Luther operated in Northern Germany.
	And the parts of Germany closer to Austria remain more loyal to the Roman Catholic Church.
	The ones closer to Rome.
	Even as you go to the northern countries, one of the candidates for cardinal is a Swedish cardinal.
	Wait, for cardinal or for pope?
	For pope.
	I'm sorry, he is a cardinal.
	Now, this is really hard to believe because there are very few Catholics in Sweden.
	Yeah.
	Very, very few.
	Well, hey, maybe let's change that, right?
	This shouldn't matter, but I mean, I guess he's a very, very impressive guy.
	A lot of Lutherans.
	Speed.
	Yeah, they have their own church.
	Calvin.
	Oh, Calvinism.
	Calvinism.
	Calvin College, Michigan.
	What's their deal?
	What's the Calvinism?
	The Swedish have their own church.
	It's like a Swedish national church.
	Right.
	I guess it is mostly Lutherans.
	Apostolic Lutherans.
	I don't know that church really well.
	Right.
	Right.
	But that's a good point.
	I mean, the churches I know the best and studied because...
	Study to be a priest.
	Or the Episcopal, the Orthodox, the Lutheran, the Methodist, the establishment churches.
	I don't even know that much about the evangelicals from back then.
	I learned about them now because they weren't as relevant back then.
	Yeah.
	They were the backbone of the Republican Party from 1980.
	I'll give a good shout-out to my home church people, though.
	I still appreciate people who do the home church route.
	Of course!
	What's the home church?
	Oh, where you gather with your friends and neighbors in your home and you celebrate the scriptures and you, you know, break bread and have fellowship.
	Yeah, nothing wrong with that.
	A lot of people do it.
	I got picked up in a van called Bible 2 that had the license plate when I was out in California and I went to a home church with these people.
	And we were singing in the car and, you know, sharing love.
	Isn't that the way the early Christians?
	Yeah, that's what made it so nice.
	Early Christians had their services in homes, in catacombs.
	Underground.
	Well, that's one of the knocks on Catholicism.
	Even some of my friends growing up, non-Catholics, they thought we were a little bit too, you know, we're big on the symbolism and the statues.
	We are.
	But I was very proud of our great church.
	Speaking of, bring back the papal tiara.
	I think that'll be a fun step.
	We are very, very elaborate.
	Yeah.
	And very, look, it is the Roman Catholic Church, so there's a tremendous influence of Italians on it.
	Yeah.
	And Italians are histrionic and theatrical and operatic.
	Opera comes from the mass.
	Yes.
	You wouldn't have opera if you didn't have the Roman Catholic sung mass.
	Yeah.
	I mean, you couldn't, in the early days before 1600, you could not do a secular musical piece.
	It was all religious.
	Catholics and Protestants both opposed the use of music for secular purposes.
	It wasn't until Henry VIII on the Protestant side, Luther, who was a great composer of hymns, and the Gregorian chant in the Catholic Church that started to develop Western music.
	Wow.
	Well, we're way off the point.
	Let me go through the tough and difficult things we have to tell people about so that they don't get brainwashed, okay?
	Yep, let's go through it.
	We won't hear anywhere else.
	The Israelis are complaining that they were not told about the so-called peace with the Houthis, but they're also complaining that they are kind of cut out of what's going on in the Middle East and that he's not going to Israel.
	And I'm just reporting that.
	I don't have a feel for is there a strategy to that or isn't there?
	Because I don't blame...
	I would do it too because...
	You know, if you keep your mouth shut, you get walked all over.
	But I kind of have a face that Trump is so loyal to Israel that I wouldn't worry about it.
	The talks with China this weekend have changed a little from Trump's early statements.
	Trump is now saying he'll negotiate other things, but he's not going to lift the tariffs on China.
	Forget the Wall Street Journal and all of our anti-American reporters and whatever who don't understand tariffs.
	They're working.
	Now, whether they're working in terms of the economy is one side, but they're working for the purpose of why we used them with China.
	We're using them with China as a war.
	We're trying to destroy and break China's economy.
	Because China wants to control us.
	And now, if you think I'm making that up, this is like, you know, Churchill telling you, you better worry about Hitler, or other people telling you, you better worry about bin Laden.
	It's written down.
	Xi Jinping has a date.
	It's 2048 or 49. He wants to be able to be the primary major power in the world.
	Now, China doesn't want to do that to guide the world to liberal democracy.
	China wants to do it to control the world under communism.
	Part of that is, the only way you can do that is by breaking the United States.
	We may be the only thing standing in a way.
	So they are our avowed enemy.
	And we treat them, I mean, except for Trump, we treat them like they're just an economic rival.
	They are a...
	They're a rival to the death.
	So Trump, seeing that the tariffs are working, now is no longer saying I may relax the tariffs.
	He said we'll negotiate other things because he sees that the tariffs are crushing them.
	They're already operating at less than break-even on most of their exports.
	And they're getting strikes in a good number of their factories.
	Because they're laying people off.
	And I'll tell you two things that are being destroyed.
	Those little crap companies, Temu and Sheen.
	Basically, they're going to stop selling in the United States.
	They have a 245% tariff.
	That means what they were selling for $3, they have to sell for $12.
	And it's basically garbage anyway.
	It is garbage.
	In fact, environmentalists love it because they say there'll be a lot less crap running around the United States if people stop.
	Buying from them.
	That's the old-fashioned made in China where they made junk.
	But they make a fortune, those two companies.
	Timu is constantly sending me advertisements.
	I didn't even know what it was.
	And then I saw it with China.
	But even that, I can't get them off.
	They want to sell me big discounts at Timu.
	What are you selling?
	Earplugs.
	You mean ear...
	No, earplugs.
	$2 earplugs.
	You put in your ear like that.
	I don't want $2 earplugs.
	You want to spend a lot on earplugs.
	Well, your ears are more.
	Well, now the $2 earplugs...
	You've got to be able to hear.
	Now the $2 earplugs cost $12.
	Ah.
	You can make your own earplugs out of cotton and cotton balls?
	Vaseline?
	These bitter workers feel the tariff pinch.
	So you should know that...
	Whether you agree or disagree with these tariffs, they're having a disproportionately massive effect.
	As this little excerpt says by a senior fellow at the Hudson Institute, Trump's tariff adds stress to an already teetering Chinese economy.
	But the Wall Street Journal are against the tariffs because maybe Rupert Murdoch tells them they have to be in favor of China.
	That's too bad.
	India, Pakistan, the question is, do they go any further?
	They both hit each other.
	Are they even now?
	Pakistan may do some kind of retaliation.
	I think if it's measured and careful, we might avoid an all-out war.
	Although there is some shooting going on, I am told.
	I mean, there is some engagement by ground troops.
	I don't know exactly what that constitutes.
	I'll try to find out.
	But you see how they're all intertwined with each other.
	There's another map.
	You see how close to China they are?
	There's China.
	China's sitting on top of both of them, right?
	And here's Kashmir, and those are where the attacks took place, where India attacked them.
	So this is theoretically part of India, but not accepted by Pakistan.
	And I don't know what China has left with all the help they're giving Russia to help Pakistan.
	Well, it's hard to see, but also one thing to not forget is the amount of water that has to travel through India to get to Pakistan.
	They have cut it off.
	One of the commentators tonight who's pro-Trump and pro-India.
	He was assessing whether it's going to escalate.
	And he says the one thing that India did that could escalate it is it's cut off the water from Pakistan.
	Well, that's one of the most basic human...
	They could starve them to death.
	Yeah.
	We need water to live.
	Yeah.
	But you also shouldn't...
	No, that's what I'm saying.
	You don't mess with terrorists.
	That's what I'm saying.
	Don't mess with someone who can control your water, your, you know, means of living.
	Don't mess with them, right?
	And Pakistan's two sponsors are in deep trouble right now.
	Yeah.
	China and Russia.
	But that's why I do not want a world war.
	Russia has no time for them, right?
	When you think about it, Russia has no time for them.
	There's another way of looking at it that might make it easier to see.
	There's China.
	There's India.
	There's a disputed territory of...
	As you get on the...
	This is where the attacks took place in here.
	And this is the Pakistani Kashmir.
	This is the Indian Kashmir.
	A little complicated, but...
	Hmm.
	But now, remember, this was all China.
	This was all Indian.
	Yes.
	This is a made-up country.
	It's carved out so the Muslims...
	Like an ethno state.
	Yeah, a religious state.
	Yeah.
	And I think uniformly thought of as a great mistake.
	A recipe for constant war.
	What year did that come into being?
	47 or 49. Yeah, like pretty darn recent.
	Yeah, 47 or 49. Like my dad remember it or something.
	I remember it really well because they celebrate their Independence Day on the same day.
	Yes.
	And they have competing parades in New York.
	Right.
	And what I did was they all wanted the same street.
	They wanted Madison Avenue.
	And I made a deal with them.
	They'd alternate every year.
	I'd give India almost...
	Well, for what?
	I'd give India a little more.
	Wait, I'm sorry.
	You alternated...
	For their Independence Day parade.
	So they wanted their Independence Day parade on the closest Sunday to Independence Day.
	The Indians did and the Pakistanis did.
	It's the same day.
	But if they had their parade together, they would kill each other.
	And really, there was no other street.
	I wasn't going to give them Fifth Avenue because they didn't want any more Fifth Avenue parades.
	We have enough.
	And the people on Fifth Avenue want to do away with all the parades.
	Is there an Indian part of town?
	In New York?
	Kind of all of it.
	No, you know, a lot of them come in from New Jersey and Long Island.
	Okay, yes, Long Island.
	Long Island is where a lot of...
	Oh, and New Jersey, too.
	There's a big Indian and Pakistan population.
	Chinese and Queens.
	Both.
	There's both a lot of Indians and Queens.
	A lot of the big Indian community in Queens.
	We're Citi Field looking.
	Flushing.
	Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
	A lot of Indians there.
	And a lot of Asians.
	I mean, I think Asians are the biggest group, ethnic group in Queens, New York.
	The Asian population in New York has increased dramatically.
	It was increasing when I was mayor.
	And it's really funny because both the Pakistanis and the Indians voted for me, even though the But we're making major...
	They're all Republicans.
	We're making major inroads with the Indian community.
	They're conservative people.
	Our values are their values.
	Even on foreign policy now.
	Right.
	Because of China.
	Because of China.
	And again, because of Bush and Trump.
	Trump has a great relationship.
	Yeah, and values.
	And India used to be a pretty, or I don't know what they call an ally, but they were supported by the Soviet Union right back in the day.
	Yeah, you know, and Vance did a great job going over there.
	Well, and I'll tell you where the woke shit doesn't fly.
	Definitely not in India.
	You know?
	Try, oh my gosh.
	These kids won't go home and tell them they got their ears pierced or something.
	I'm a woman, Father.
	They'd be like, oh my God.
	It looks like the air traffic controllers and the whole situation there.
	That's tough.
	That is tough.
	That is tough.
	But I think Sean Duffy was the right guy and he really is on top of it.
	That's right, and we do have a clip from him.
	But he's got a lot of work to do.
	But he articulated it well.
	Do you want to quickly hear from him?
	No, what I really want to do, because I'm a frivolous person, I want to show Jasmine Crockett, my favorite member of Congress, I want to step it all over people in wheelchairs because of a lack of sensitivity to disabled people, which pretty much is what most Democrats would do because they're so goddamn important.
	Right.
	So we're going to bring it up here.
	You just walk right in front of them and push them all aside.
	Right.
	This is the champion of the poor people.
	Yeah, right there.
	It's not a video.
	Oh, we don't have video of it.
	It's only a picture, so...
	Oh, we don't have video?
	There is no video of it.
	No, there is.
	Oh, is there?
	Okay, look for the video, Stephen.
	I'm going to bring up the pictures we have.
	If you can get it, if you can get it, good.
	Yeah, here it is.
	Here are the pictures, though.
	Yeah, you don't really see it well in the pictures.
	You don't really see it well in the pictures.
	She actually has contempt for these disabled people.
	Is there video of it?
	I'm not seeing any video.
	I know the famous picture is this.
	There's video of it.
	But in any event, let me go on here.
	I'm sure there'll be more.
	Let everybody go to sleep.
	So, as I said, Sheen and Temu are getting wiped out in America.
	They're actually thinking of stopping business in America, which would really be great.
	That would mean a lot less crap in the streets.
	Right.
	People throw it all out.
	People who are having weddings, a certain number of them are complaining that they may have to pay more for flowers.
	I think when you compare the possibility that China may control us by 2050, and we all be speaking Chinese, to whether you could have a massive amount of flowers at your wedding, I think maybe the first is more important.
	So a few less flowers, and they all get wasted anyway.
	What do you do with all those flowers?
	And grow your own flowers, too.
	I mean, make a project out of it.
	What do you do with all those flowers?
	I mean, I used to get flowers all the time when I was mayor.
	I have no idea why they would send flowers to a male mayor who is not trans.
	And the reality is, I used to give them to the hospitals.
	Some days I get five barrel bushes of flowers.
	What am I going to do with roses?
	I didn't put them around my office.
	First, I would give them to the ladies.
	The ladies in the office.
	But then, after a while, they didn't want them.
	They realized it was just a hand-me-down.
	We would send them to the hospital.
	You should see how on the west side of Michigan, we'll probably have one bouquet of roses at an event, but about eight different people will get roses because we just passed the same roses around at the event.
	There may also be a shortage of poor dough.
	And Chianti.
	Is that wine?
	That could be tough.
	It has to be tough for some of these liberal...
	Why don't you try California wine, which is really Bordeaux, but they're not allowed to call it Bordeaux because it doesn't come out of the crappy soil of Bordeaux.
	And Chianti, believe me, the wines in California are just as good as the Italian wines.
	Better.
	And the wines in California, by the way, are just as good as a lot of the French wines.
	In fact, they've won competitions against them, but nobody wants to tell you that either.
	Chianti.
	It's just all brand power that they have in France.
	Bordeaux is a combination of grapes that you can do anywhere.
	And you have to call it Bordeaux because the French...
	The entitled French require that you call it Bordeaux.
	You have to call it based on the terroir.
	The terroir.
	Or is that the earth?
	You name the wine after the earth.
	Terroir.
	Yeah.
	Isn't that, that's like, uh, That's funny.
	Very tough.
	Shortage of flowers.
	Instead of having 45 flowers at a wedding, you can only have 10 now.
	Unless you grow your own, then you can have as many as you want.
	Look, it is well worth it to stop and end Chinese dominance.
	Right.
	We covered quite sufficiently the other night how the justices are allowing Trump to go ahead.
	With doing what he should do as commander-in-chief with the military and get rid of the trans people.
	Also, the $400,000 levy that puts on people if a member of the military wants to change their sex, the military has to pay for it.
	I'd be damned if we have to pay for somebody's mutilating themselves.
	They shouldn't be able to do it anyway.
	There is a great book, and I'm going to go over it tomorrow night.
	I'm going to try to get him on the show.
	And I want you to...
	I've read excerpts from the book, but I'm going to have the whole book tomorrow.
	The Affirmative Action Myth by probably one of the best columnists in America, Jason Reilly.
	And what he does, he's a black man, and what he does is to show how affirmative action, to a large extent, did unbelievable damage to the black community that was moving up the middle class rapidly.
	Until dependency came along.
	And lack of standards.
	They were doing really well meeting up to the standards.
	And then affirmative action.
	Maybe, maybe, I mean, Jason is a very, very fine man.
	And Malcolm X, I probably don't agree with on anything but this.
	Malcolm X, in his book, wrote, biggest enemy of the black people?
	White liberals.
	Why do you think he said that?
	Because white liberals treat the black community in a certain way like they're still dependent and should be dependent on them.
	And they want to keep them that way so that they can dominate their vote.
	And just in case that changes, that's why they're bringing in all the illegals.
	Because nobody's going to vote for Democrats if they're smart.
	Ever.
	I mean, as Churchill said.
	If you're not a liberal when you're 20, you have no heart.
	And if you're not a conservative by the time you're 40, you have no brain.
	So by the time your brain starts to work and you listen to these ridiculous solutions like we should bring rapists back because they didn't do enough rapes when they were in America, you say to yourself, I'm not going to be a member of that stupid political party.
	I We have a massive intelligence operation now going on in Greenland.
	Which we didn't have before.
	And if even that comes out of this, this was a very smart thing to do.
	Right.
	Because Greenland is a, particularly for the Russians, something they think of as a way of mounting an attack against us so they can get control of it.
	Because remember, the advantage we have over both China and Russia, and we gave a lot of it back because they paid off Biden.
	Our bases are in much closer proximity to them, major ones, than they are to us.
	So in a nuclear war or a ballistic missile war, distance is enormously important, even with hydroponic missiles, where we have made great strides, by the way.
	Although this is very top secret, a little bit leaked out, so I feel like I can repeat it.
	We've made great strides in...
	Kind of reversing that.
	There's...
	We covered Mr. Tillis.
	Right?
	We covered Mr. Tillis.
	I don't get it.
	Why don't you educate yourself, Senator, on what happened on January 6th, really?
	You're living in a dream world if you think that was an insurrection.
	And you're living in a dream world if you don't think it was orchestrated.
	By Nancy Pelosi at all.
	Why does she not turn over her records?
	What was her daughter doing filming it?
	With a Hollywood crew.
	Why do they never identify the 240 Antifa people that were there?
	There's an email that lays that out two days later that they were successful in getting 247 Antifa people.
	The FBI were minor in comparison.
	We should send something.
	Have you ever heard that before?
	Was there any effort to identify the Antifa people?
	Were any Antifa people prosecuted?
	We should send this to his office.
	How about the two guys that were knocking down the wall to try to get in who should have been shot?
	Not Ashley Babbitt, if anybody's going to be shot.
	Yeah.
	Who were they?
	Well, I happen to know one of them was Antifa.
	He didn't get prosecuted.
	He was knocking down a wall when he didn't get prosecuted.
	Because the whole damn thing was corrupt.
	Yeah.
	And it was orchestrated.
	It was a setup.
	So, Senator, come on.
	Make believe you have a brain and use it.
	It's absurd.
	Well, there was a study.
	I hope nobody paid a lot for this.
	There was a study that showed the more police you have, the more crime goes down.
	You've got to really study that.
	The more police you have, they show the massive amount of crime that took place when they had to defund the police movement.
	Based on the Floyd protests, an awful lot of people got killed.
	So why do they have a statute of this guy?
	I mean, okay, he was killed.
	You may think unjustifiably.
	Some people think he died of a drug overdose.
	But the guy was a complete scoundrel.
	I mean, he was a complete...
	Horrible human being.
	Beat up women.
	Beat up children.
	Hello.
	Pregnant woman at gunpoint?
	Yeah.
	It's crazy.
	He was completely stoned when he died.
	Yeah, right.
	And he was a cop beater.
	Okay, and maybe he got killed unjustifiably or not.
	Right.
	But you don't put up a stature to him so a lot of kids can be like...
	You want your kid to be like George Floyd, a bum?
	They know how to pick him between that and a Braco Garcia, too.
	Just because you get killed, just because you die doesn't make you a good person.
	Right.
	And the fact that they, yeah, the way they use that.
	Oh, I mean, it's the beginning of the manipulation.
	It's like January 6th and the George Floyd thing leading to riots.
	I mean, 20, 30 people got killed as a result of those riots.
	People got murdered as a result of those riots.
	And the damage to cities.
	These race baiters like nothing more than a dead black man because that's who serves their purpose.
	Where were they in George Floyd's life before he died, right?
	They don't care about George Floyd until after he's dead, and they can use his death to push their race-vading narrative to divide us.
	So we'll be back tomorrow.
	We'll be back at 7 on Lindell TV and X, and we'll be back here at 8 o 'clock on America's Mayor Live.
	And I'm holding back because I don't have time for it now.
	There was an attack on a little chihuahua by two pit bulls.
	In New York, and they almost killed the chihuahua and needed emergency surgery.
	These pit bulls have already killed another dog.
	And the two people look, when you look at the two people, the very heavy, fat people have the dogs.
	And it looks, you have some of that there.
	See, they're trying to get the dog away from getting it out of the pit bull's mouth.
	And the owner of the dog got a cane and stuck it in the pit bull's mouth and got the dog out.
	Now, what happened is...
	This guy is walking his chihuahua.
	And these two fat people are walking their pit bulls.
	And one of the pit bulls...
	Yeah, you see the pit bull there?
	One of the pit bulls gets the chihuahua and those are the people walking away.
	They're escaping so they don't get arrested.
	The two fat people.
	Poor little chihuahua.
	Well, but...
	I want you to realize that these dogs were abused by these people.
	Probably, allegedly.
	No, I'm going to tell you for sure.
	I'm going to tell you what they did.
	The first dog got the chihuahua.
	The fat woman then let the other dog off the leash to join the dog that possibly had inadvertently sort of disturbed.
	And that one...
	Deliberately went after it as if to defend the other pit bull.
	This was an orchestrated attack.
	Now, these people have a history back in December of another dog being attacked and one being killed by these two pit bulls.
	They go around the city using these pit bulls to kill dogs.
	And they train these poor pit bulls to do it.
	Now, a pit bull trained properly can be a wonderful dog.
	It used to be a child's dog 100 years ago.
	And then they found out that it has strong jaws.
	And they train it to fight because there are maybe four or five dogs in that category that would be excellent fighting dogs.
	But it's not their temperament.
	They're trained to be that way.
	And they began as totally different kinds of dogs.
	The pit bull, when it first developed in England, was a child's dog.
	And you bring up a pit bull, right, and it's about the most loving dog you're going to find.
	The creep here are those two fat people.
	And they should be in jail.
	And of course, New York doesn't have a criminal penalty for it.
	My God, we don't put people who murder human beings in jail, much less dogs.
	You can sue them civilly.
	But they deliberately, when you look at this, I'll get it out for you tomorrow and analyze it for you.
	This is a deliberate attack by these two people using the dogs.
	Probably they abused the damn dogs to get them that way.
	Well, Yes, we should worry about dogs, too.
	They're beautiful companions, and they're wonderful.
	And people who do that with dogs do the same thing to human beings.
	I remember kids that started off with dogs, and then they started off...
	I grew up in Brooklyn.
	I grew up in Brooklyn.
	Where'd you get that?
	The internet's full of wonderful things.
	Well, maybe tomorrow we'll have a new pope.
	Hopefully it'll be someone who doesn't agree with atheistic communism and also has a proper respect for the greatest country on earth, the United States of America, and the greatest contributor to the Catholic Church.
	So I'm really hoping for that and praying for it.
	And so we'll be back tomorrow night.
	I want you to pray for it.
	I want you to pray for Israel.
	I want you to pray for the people of Iran so that they're free.
	I want you to pay for the people of Ukraine who are still getting killed for nothing.
	And of course, pray for us and for the president, that he guides us correctly, and for those cardinals so they make a right choice for the world.
	So God bless America.
	We'll see you tomorrow night.
	We'll see you tomorrow night.
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	America was created at a time of great turmoil, tremendous disagreements, anger, hatred.
	It was a book written in 1776.
	That guided much of the discipline of thinking that brought to us the discovery of our freedoms, of our God-given freedoms.
	It was Thomas Paine's Common Sense, written in 1776, one of the first American bestsellers in which Thomas Paine explained by rational principles the reason why these small colonies felt the necessity to separate from the Kingdom of Great Britain and the King of England.
	He explained their inherent desire for liberty, for freedom, freedom of religion, freedom of speech, the ability to select the people who govern them.
	And he explained it in ways that were understandable to all the people, not just the elite.
	Because the desire for freedom is universal.
	The desire for freedom adheres in the human mind and it is part of the human soul.
	This is exactly the time we should consult our history.
	Look at what we've done in the past and see if we can't use it to help us now.
	We understand that our founders created the greatest country in the history of the world.
	The greatest democracy, the freest country.
	A country that has taken more people out of poverty than any country ever.
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