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April 21, 2025 - Rudy Giuliani
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America’s Mayor Live (651): The Life and Death of Pope Francis—The First Latin American Pontiff
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Good evening, this is Rudy Giuliani, and we are coming to you tonight from Manchester, New Hampshire.
And, of course, we're reporting on, as you see in the background, on Rome, Italy, as well as, of course, the rest of the world.
Because all the eyes of the world, for the last, oh, since at least about noon today, have been turned toward Rome.
To, first of all, discuss the passing of the Pope, which, although much anticipated a few weeks ago, at least seemed like it had gone into a more quiescent period.
And then yesterday, he actually appeared.
For a part of the Easter celebration, he didn't say the Mass.
That was said by other cardinals.
But he did show up in the Popemobile and drove around and looked.
Yes, he did look rather ill.
There's no question about that.
But in any event, it was a bit of a surprise after that, that it was announced today that he died.
The announcement was around noon, if I recall correctly, it was around noontime.
Maybe a little after noon, our time.
And since then, all of the ceremonies have taken place that do take place when that happens.
His determination of his death is made official by the Kamalongo, the Chamberlain.
Everything is removed from his quarters.
If there were many things in his quarters, after all, he was in the hospital for some time and had never returned for quite a while.
And then once they're all removed, he is taken out and the room is sealed with a wax seal that's put on.
So no one will go in there until the next pope is selected.
After that, I believe after that, his papal ring is destroyed.
With a hammer and a chill.
Because it was only for him.
The new pope will have a different and a new papal ring.
For himself.
And now the ceremonies are being organized, first of all, for his funeral mass, his lying in state, which of course will happen in St. Peter's.
And then the mass of his burial.
And he's going to be buried at a site outside of that he's selected.
Outside of the Vatican, which is interesting and a little different.
And then about 12 days from now, the College of Cardinals will meet in the consistory, probably already.
I think it would have been unseemly if they had started before the Pope died, I hope, even though they were pretty sure he was going to die about three weeks ago.
The Sistine Chapel.
It's subdivided, and the inner sanctum of the Sistine Chapel is transformed from what it looks like when you see it, with the paintings on the wall, into a chapel in which each of the hundred-plus cardinals who will decide this has almost like a choir stall on the side.
Where the vote will take place.
And that'll be beyond, if you've been to the Sistine Chapel, you know that you walk in and it is divided, I'm not sure if it's in half or slightly less than half, it's divided by a big gate that you can see through.
And one part of the gate is really for the public and the other part of the gate is for the religious ceremonies.
The College of Cardinals will meet in the inner part of that gate.
And that's where the stalls are being built now for each of the Cardinals.
Each of them will have a stall and a desk.
And from there, they'll vote.
And the voting takes place in writing with each one of them going up and placing it in a chalice.
And then it's being hand counted.
No electronic voting, as far as I know.
There won't be any issues about crooked voting machines.
And as soon as a candidate receives a two-thirds vote, that candidate becomes the pontiff, the successor of St. Peter and the representative of Jesus Christ on Earth.
And then it is, in due course, announced to the public.
And at some point thereafter, there is, of course, a solemn mass and ceremony in which they placed a crown on his head of the head of the Holy Roman Catholic Church.
I believe, but I could be wrong, and please correct me if I am.
Over the course of the next couple of days, we'll have experts on with us who know a bit more about it than I do.
But I believe he wears the crown just that one time when he's, when he's, I don't even know what the right word is, sworn in,
inaugurated, made the Pope of the Roman Catholic Church.
I do believe he will wear it in the casket as well.
But we'll see that rather shortly.
And then the question is, of course, who will replace him?
And the possibilities of that are...
Possibilities of that are...
Rather limited.
We, as Americans, of course, would love to finally see an American pope.
Of course, I would love to see the Cardinal, Archbishop of New York, as the next pope.
I can't think of a finer man or a better person, and a more balanced human being to hold that job, or a holier person.
I just love the man.
And I don't really know him as well as I knew Cardinal O'Connor, who I also loved.
Cardinal O'Connor was also a very great man.
Very different.
Cardinal O'Connor was much more of a taskmaster.
Well, Cardinal O'Connor was an admiral in the United States Navy.
And he exuded a lot of that.
I mean, he expected a great deal of discipline out of his church.
And his, although his views were presented rather didactically, that really was his manner, and he really was a very, very open-minded man that you could discuss almost anything with.
I loved him too.
But we'll come back to this and talk a bit more about the life of the Pope, who's now...
Gone to heaven?
Hey, if he doesn't go to heaven, forget it.
We might as well give up, Ted.
Pope doesn't make it into heaven, at least the modern popes.
I mean, some of the old popes, maybe not.
But the modern one, if the modern pope doesn't make it into heaven.
I mean, I didn't agree with this vote, but I sure as heck wouldn't hold up his going to heaven.
Yeah.
So let's cover some of the other things that are going on in the world.
Although this is, since noon today, this is really, you know, if you look at this morning's New York Times and this morning's New York Post and this morning's Wall Street Journal, which are the three main ones I always look at,
or even the Washington Post and the Washington Times, this all happened after they went to Post.
They talked about his Sunday, which...
Really, it was more activity than he's had in a long time, Ted.
He was out and about quite a bit.
He was not supposed to be...
They selected other cardinals to say the Easter Mass, that our vice president was present at.
Just think of...
I mean, I don't know if this is appropriate to say it this way.
I was about to say it, and then you wonder what's appropriate to say about things like death.
And I was going to say, wasn't the vice president fortunate to get to meet him?
The last day of his life.
He went to see him, and the Pope gave him gifts for his children.
Isn't that wonderful?
Imagine giving those kids that gift, and the day before the Pope died, he gave...
I don't know, Ted, can we figure out the official time of death?
We'd like to know if he died on Easter or after.
I do think it would have to have been...
It would have to have been...
After Easter, because there are seven hours ahead of us, right?
So now we're 8 o'clock here, so they're after midnight in Rome.
So they announced his death around noontime today.
They were already six hours into the day when they announced it.
So I bet he died right after Easter during the night, like on the 21st, which is today, Monday, not the 20th, which was Easter.
But when you think about it, of course, these religious things mean a lot to a lot of people.
He lived for his last Easter.
And apparently he went right through the day.
Went right through the day.
That's about what it looks like behind us now.
That's about what it looks like at St. Peter's now.
Because it's nighttime.
But must be furious activity.
I really would love if we could get into the Sistine Chapel, Ted.
I was just there six weeks ago at the Sistine Chapel.
Made the mistake of taking pictures inside.
And the Chamberlain, the man in charge, was a big fan, thank God.
Let me keep him.
He told me, be careful, be careful.
Come on out.
You'll hang around with me.
He's an Italian guy.
I think he was a priest.
Couldn't tell.
I mean, he had like a, maybe a brother.
Maybe he was a brother.
And he let me take a few pictures, which maybe tomorrow I'll share with you.
I'm almost afraid to.
Why? It might be a sin.
Who knows?
I did get to look, of course, at God putting the finger down for Adam.
And Adam...
You have to be amazed at the brilliance of Michelangelo, right?
Doing that on his back.
But the expression on Adam's face.
So he's about to become alive within a second because the fingers are this far apart, right?
Here's the finger of God and here's the finger of Adam and they're about to touch.
And you can feel it.
You feel it.
You see it.
He doesn't look alive.
He doesn't look dead.
And he looks exactly the way he should look.
Anticipation of being alive.
And of course, having been a sculptor, these are all very muscular figures.
God and Adam.
Looks like Adam could have...
Done very, very well in this new kind of boxing.
Big guy.
But he's like waiting there.
He's like on his face.
We'll show a picture of it later.
On his face, there's an anticipation.
And I'm not...
I will tell you two facts, both of which are true.
I am not a great connoisseur or...
I love art, but I don't know.
The Messiah, two-thirds of which concern Jesus' life.
After his birth, it's the first third.
It's about the birth of Jesus and the one that gets performed now at Christmas, but it was originally written for Easter and performed for the first time in Dublin.
The Messiah, the second part and the third part are much more associated with this season, including now after Easter and Jesus' mission after he rose from the dead.
But of course, the great work.
Are the two passions of John and Matthew.
And if you can figure out which is better, you're better than I am.
Because I listen to both.
And they're very different.
And I love them both.
They're just the most awesome pieces of music ever written by any human being ever.
Of course, I would say that about 30 other things.
We'll now have a very interesting period as the church contemplates carefully what it needs.
A brilliant choice back in the 1970s when they picked John Paul II, who was an alternate pick in the sense that The original,
if I recall correctly, Pope selected before him lived only a month there.
There have been all sorts of mysteries written about how he died.
And they finally decided on a Pope from then a country that was prohibited from being Catholic, Poland.
And, of course, I don't know that anyone would disagree that he was the greatest pope of modern times and a saint now of the Catholic Church, a man that I had the great fortune of meeting twice, plus my children,
goosebumps up until today.
Well,
Well, you know, it's amazing how these universities are...
They're going to be tough.
I mean, they're going to be tough to bring around to being American again and being loyal to the United States.
They really are filled with communist and Marxist haters of America.
And they derive a certain...
Of their false intellectuality from being ridiculously silly critics.
You know, if you're a great patriot, you must be somewhat stupid.
Even if that's actually the result of a fairly objective reading of history.
But everything has to be turned into some horrible things about America.
So if you look at what's going on now, the Trump administration is withdrawing money from colleges that are violating the laws.
For example, a college participating in anti-Semitism.
Shouldn't be entitled to federal money?
And they do.
Vicious anti-Semitism.
Certainly Columbia.
Cornell has invited now an entertainer named Kalani to perform on May 7th.
Okay. One of her music videos starts with Long live the Intifada, which is the revolt by the Palestinian Hamas group against Israel and the other Palestinians.
She also shared a map in one of her performances.
Of that whole area, eliminating Israel as a country.
I mean, she's in favor of the elimination of one of our strongest allies.
Well, you should sit back and laugh at that.
What, is she making a joke?
She's multi-Grammy award nominated.
It doesn't say she ever got one.
I have no idea who she is.
I have no idea who...
Kalani is.
But she's gotten a lot of Grammy awards for things that she has sung, I guess, if she sings.
Or maybe she plays the flute.
But they've gone past me.
A million years, you could play five.
The only way I'd know it was Kalani is if you played me four songs, the one that sounds, I'd pick out Kalani from the Sound of the Stupidness.
The Trump administration has frozen a billion dollars in federal funding to Cornell based on a civil rights probe over whether it failed to prevent anti-Semitic discrimination and harassment on campus.
And Cornell was sending a message back, I don't really give a shit.
The watchdog group Stop Anti-Semitism says Kalani supports the terrorist regime.
of Hamas under the guise of resistance.
Next to you music video begins with the phrase long live the intifada appearing across the stream and featuring dances and kifas waving Palestinian flags.
The group noted Kalani refused to condemn Hamas for the massacre of Israeli citizens.
Instead, Connie directly called for the destruction of Israel and the destruction of its people.
We otherwise call that murder, right?
She also shared a map on Instagram that eliminates Israel and uttered rants as, Zionists are all evil.
Well, I guess I'm evil because I'm a Zionist.
And Zionists are the scum of the earth.
I guess I'm the scum of the earth.
And they should go to hell.
Well, I think you've got a better chance of that, sweetheart, than I do.
It's F Israel.
Obviously very wide vocabulary, too, by this extraordinarily disgusting person.
It's F Zionism.
It's also F a lot of y'all.
A lot of us.
She wants to F all of us.
She said on X last year.
And she was invited.
For Slope Day, end of year celebration.
She's the headliner.
This will be like their...
She recently performed at Northeastern
Why do these universities do this?
What... Why would you have a disgusting bigot like this?
F Israel, F Zionism, F a lot of you all.
Long live the intifada.
Long live the intifada.
That's what's going on.
Russia and Ukraine had supposedly a day off for Easter, but they fought with each other, and each one is blaming the other for having violated the Easter peace,
the Easter truce.
As I recall, it was suggested by Putin, who attended Easter service.
At Moscow's Cathedral of Christ the Savior, led by Patriarch Kirill.
At the beginning of the service, when Putin walked in, he took the patriarch out of his back pocket and then he let him walk up.
you.
Patriarch Kirill.
Look, in case you haven't noticed, I'm no fan of Putin, never have been.
And I've met him.
And I'm not impressed.
Unlike President Bush, I didn't see anything in his eyes but a stone-cold killer and a KGB guy, similar to people I had put in prison.
Smart as hell.
Sharp guy.
Charming guy, actually.
But if you don't have the discipline and you haven't experienced a lot of different sophisticated kinds of crimes, he could fool you.
He sure as hell fooled Bush, who I think would tell you now that he was fooled.
But this weekend, which was supposed to be a truce, they attacked Kiev.
Moscow claims they attack first.
So it's hard to say.
As of Easter morning, the Russian army is trying to create a general impression of a ceasefire.
But in some places, it does not abandon individual attempts to advance and inflict losses on Ukraine, Zelensky said.
In practice, either Putin doesn't know what's going on or he's doing it on purpose.
At 4 p.m.
Sunday on Easter, Kiev's military recorded 46 skirmishes, which was 900 shillings and 400 drone deployments from Moscow.
Despite that, Zelensky is still offering a 30-day truce starting at midnight, which I don't think has been accepted.
Russia says that they launched the attacks because 48 drones were fired from the Donetsk region of Ukraine into Russia.
And they also began attacking Moscow's troops in Kyrgyzstan.
And Putin, as I said, was attending Easter services after he pulled the pay truck out of his back pocket and told them what to do.
It doesn't sound like this is going anywhere fast.
It is true that there have been renewed talks between now the US and Ukraine, and there is an agreement on A structure for a truce that either has or has not been presented to Russia yet.
And there have been expressions suggesting if this doesn't work, the U.S. just pulls out and leaves them on their own.
Let Europe deal with it.
We'll have to see, right?
So can we take a look, Ted, and see who won The female version of the Boston Marathon.
Today was Patriots Day in Boston.
And they ran the Boston Marathon.
And the last two Boston Marathons in the female category were won by men.
Not even much of an attempt to...
I think these men...
I think these men still have penises.
So not even much of an attempt to hide it except maybe to, you know, swish around and put your voice higher.
One of them was kind of a shitty male runner, which is what they usually are.
They're usually like 490.
It's the male runner.
Now, this is just a simple fact that we're built differently.
Two years since the non-binary category was introduced.
Non-binary category.
I don't know what the hell that means.
Both winners have been biological men.
The non-binary category uses the woman's qualifying time.
Non-binary individuals may be either male or female.
Yeah, there are three categories.
There's a second category.
Men, women, and non-binary.
Well, I don't know who won.
The last two in a row were men who won the women version.
The qualifying time for women is 16.6% slower than for men.
That's 30 minutes slower.
You can't make up 30 minutes.
Wow.
Rhea Susing, who was born Robert Chen Yu Young, is a man.
He's a long-time runner.
He's competed in races in the female category more than 338 times, despite the fact that he's a man, since 2009.
And he's won 140 times.
In each of these races, he's displaced women.
Amen.
I mean, this is like turning your head around.
I don't know if this is a product of the original women's liberation movement going crazy on steroids, you know, that were just like men.
In a lot of ways, you're a lot better than men.
You're just not as big and strong.
you.
The British Supreme Court, it says in this article, and we'll have to look this up by Jennifer Say, is ruling.
It says, is ruling.
And that transgender women are not, in fact, legally women.
Now, I don't know what that means.
Britain's Supreme Court is ruling.
You've either ruled or you haven't ruled.
But that would be an important ruling.
agree.
I mean, there are about 20 distinctions between a man and a woman that gives a man a great advantage if they're in both, depending on the level of shape they're in.
I mean, you could take a completely useless guy who's in terrible shape and a female athlete, and of course you'll beat him.
We're talking about both being fairly trained athletes.
I would say this is a, I do not know Jennifer Say.
Who's the founder and CEO of XX-XY Athletics, because those are male and female chromosomes.
But she is suggesting that the Bank of America and Adidas stop endorsing this and create a real man and a real female category.
And until then, people should boycott.
The Boston Marathon, and in particular, Bank of America and Adidas.
I like that.
That's crazy.
That's crazy, man.
Did you see who won?
Yeah. So who won?
Well, it was a man.
Well, there were two.
Yeah, so I have to find the...
Well, there's three categories.
Yeah, I'm a little confused.
The third one, anybody can participate in.
And it's under women's rules.
But we're really interested in who won the women's.
It'll be a woman's name, so I wonder if there'll be...
What? This is the woman's...
Sharon? It sounds like a woman's name.
Sharon. Wait a second.
Sharon. S-H-A-R-O-N.
Yeah. Is she a male?
A female?
Any males running it?
I don't think so.
I'll look though.
Sorry, I'm losing my voice.
So that's the women's?
Yeah. Women won with Sharon Lecate.
Did any men participate?
I don't think so.
But there are three categories, remember?
I'm talking about the women category.
Yeah, now we have the third category, which confuses me a bit, but that's for
men and women.
So that category...
That category is non-binary.
Whatever that means, non-binary.
the non-binary category.
you.
I think it's the non-binary that allows
to compete with females.
I'm trying to find a way to that category.
Okay.
So you had three winners.
We should take a short break.
And we'll be right back, and we will, as long as we're up in Boston, we'll talk about Harvard that is beginning to become...
Remember, we thought Columbia was the worst?
Harvard may be beating them out.
We'll see.
I mean, they could be the most disgusting university in America.
They are usually top of the list for violating the rights of Jewish people and Christians.
And I don't think they teach anything anymore.
It's been a long time since they taught anything.
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And we're thinking about Harvard University.
Ted suggested we should go.
We're not that far.
We're about an hour or less, maybe.
And take a look around like we did last year when we made our assessment that Columbia was worse.
We might have to do a different assessment for this year.
But Harvard is now fighting the administration straight out.
And the Trump administration has warned Harvard to stop using race as a criterion for its admission, hiring, and promotion, which it believes it can prove they did.
And also to ban the use of masks in the post-COVID era, because it is...
Creating a disproportionate number of demonstrators who are becoming violent.
And according to Harvard, it's trashing their First Amendment rights.
And the federal government has so far now taken its $2.2 billion grant from Harvard.
Look, Harvard is as prejudiced as a university as you're going to find in the country.
It's always top of the list whenever they assess the most prejudiced, the most...
I don't even think they teach anymore.
And its degree, given...
I mean, I don't know why anybody would send their kid to one of these schools.
Harvard, Cornell.
I mean, they're learning political theater.
They're not learning anything.
In any event, the $2.2 billion has been pulled from them.
And now, today, Victor Davis Hanson has a great suggestion.
And he talks about a truly great school.
Probably now one of the most popular in America, Hillsdale College, which has a $1 billion endowment as compared to the $50 billion Harvard.
And Hillsdale College, in order not to be pushed around by the federal government, takes nothing from the federal government.
Nothing. As a matter of principle, it gave up all federal funding to be free of Washington's octopus tentacles.
Now think about this.
Harvard has a $50.2 billion endowment.
And for $2.2 billion, it's willing to sell itself.
Are they shits?
Are they phony shits or aren't they?
Why don't they just say no to the $2.2 billion and then go off and do whatever the hell you want?
Why do you have to take my money in order to teach what I regard as desecration of American history or desecration of philosophy and theology?
I mean, you've been at a shitty university for years.
And you graduate arrogant putzes.
And you teach a gobbledygook.
Garbage. So, what the hell?
What do you care about the $2.2 billion?
Why don't you just give it up?
Little Hillsdale College gives it up and it only has one billion.
You got 52. And Hillsdale College is 10 times the school you are.
It actually teaches you something other than prejudice.
So Robert Kennedy is taking on the battle that It almost prevented him from becoming the secretary because of his very,
very strong views on autism and the fact that there are environmental, present modern environmental causes to the increase in autism.
Now, let's look at the increase for...
Let's look at the present.
One in every 31...
American children now have autism.
One in 31. This is based on eight years old when you can diagnose it.
And the severity of it, you know, varies.
But 26% have it severe enough that they cannot live independently.
So that would be, you know, there are a lot of people with I'm not even sure it is autism, but it's all put under that label.
Have what I would regard as marginal autism.
They actually might be quite high-functioning, and they still have autism.
But then there are a lot that aren't, and then there's 26% that are non-functional.
So Kennedy has announced that his department is now going to look at six environmental factors with potential links.
Ultrasound scans, mold, pesticides, food chemicals, certain medicines, and water contamination.
And Kennedy has accused the National Institutes of Health and the CDC, which are under his control now, of blocking studies over the years into the cause of autism.
And autism has grown dramatically.
The 1 in 31 rate now used to be 1 in 54 in 2016.
At the beginning of the century, it was 1 in 150.
So in 24 years, we've gone from one case of autism out of 150 kids to one case of autism, 31 kids.
Now, what the experts would like you to believe.
Is that that's just the way it is.
We're just doing a better job of finding it.
And it's not increasing.
The Autism Society of America said it does not signal an epidemic.
It reflects diagnostic progress.
And an urgent need for policy that is rooted in science and the immediate needs of the autism community.
Claiming that autism is preventable is not science.
Who decided that?
The mastro of science?
The king of science?
I am the king of science.
Autism is not preventable.
So stop putting money into it and put the money in my back pocket.
I mean, how stupid is that?
The simple fact is we don't know what causes autism.
We don't even know how to categorize that autism.
How do we know what causes it?
It's a spectrum.
And when you try to get them to explain the spectrum to you, after about two seconds, they fall apart.
So stop pretending like you know.
Show some damn humility for human life.
I don't know if Kennedy's right, but at least he's willing to look.
I know you're wrong.
I know you're wrong.
I know you're wrong because you won't look.
I'd really like to get to the bottom of why you're doing that.
There's got to be money involved in this.
You know, Ted, there's got to be money.
There's got to be some...
This isn't done by...
You know, luckily, somebody didn't come up with a so-called cure for it, and then they pretended it was one of the drug companies tried to make a fortune on the cure.
And how many scoundrels are involved in this, in our healthcare?
I guess where there's so much money involved, it just draws scoundrels like that, huh?
Kennedy's doing a good job.
I've got balls.
Boy, do you need them now.
Trump's got a lot of guys with balls.
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We're going to take a short break and we will be right back and we'll take a look at what's going on in Israel.
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I call it a laboratory.
It's not like a factory.
It's like a hospital.
This is the beginning of the process for roasting.
Deep grain, very good quality.
Most people don't use this quality.
We deal with small farmers because they like to know who we're dealing with.
They give us the highest quality, all organic, non-GMO.
You should know, all Arabica beans.
No Robusto.
All Arabica.
They're going to go into the roaster and it'll get roasted for about 20 minutes or so.
Oh my goodness, look at these!
My goodness!
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You're gonna want to specially order these.
This is what goes into Rudy's coffee.
Rudy's coffee.
Thank you.
This is Rudy Giuliani back with you on America's Mayor Live.
There's one last living Israeli-American hostage.
Maybe. Adi Alexander.
I'm sorry, Edan Alexander.
Adi is the parent, and Adi is urging that Trump resume talks with Hamas to free the sun and the 58 other hostages.
Now, I mean, that's been tried, and that hasn't worked.
It's also...
Sounds like there's a possibility that he died in an airstrike.
Hamas says that he's been missing since the airstrike.
Now, that could also just be conveniently trying to blame it on the Israelis.
The Israelis.
this is.
I just don't know when we're going to put our foot down and end this.
It's time that we do that.
It's time that we put our foot down and just end this.
endless.
I think that Israel should go into Should go into Gaza with a massive army and pull out everybody that belongs to Hamas and get them out.
And then after they get them all out, tell them they'll have a chance to...
They'll have a chance to...
Whoever remains will have a chance to turn themselves in and they won't be...
Tortured or killed or beaten or they'll just be relocated out of Gaza far away.
And who's ever left, if you remain, will kill you on sight.
Now, they're being accused of much worse than that.
And I listened to some of the debate with the people that Are basically crying for the Hamas victims,
the victims in Palestine, and that the Israelis are, you know, killing way too many of them and way too many of the civilians.
Now, first of all, I don't know that that's true.
In order to do that, you're relying on Hamas statistics.
Number two, I don't know what you do when you tell the civilians to get out.
You delay attacks, and then they lay the civilians on top of themselves to protect themselves, which they do as a deliberate tactic.
I haven't actually seen a major war situation or read about a major war situation where one army has gone out of the way to prevent killing a certain group of people, With the young people and with the non-aligned people of Palestine,
of Gaza.
Lately, some have now come out to protest.
But there are not many of them, really.
When you take the polls, somewhere around 80 to 90 percent support what Hamas was doing.
That's a lot of percentage.
There's no reason to believe there's a big body of support for being peaceful with Israel in either Gaza or in the West Bank.
It's just total fiction, totally ridiculous.
And when I listened to the debate on Rogan, it seemed like they were living in an alternate universe.
That it's terrible how many of these young Palestinians have been killed.
I mean, all they did is come in and kill 1,200 Jews, and now look how many have been killed.
First of all, 1,200 was just the latest.
They've been attacking Israel for 25 years, 40 years.
I mean, more than once I've gone to Israel for suicide, their bombings.
And I don't see the big support for accepting Israel among the Palestinians, not just Hamas, among the Palestinians.
Their desire, deep in their heart, is to destroy the state of Israel.
And somebody had to deal with it at some point.
And I think the Israelis have dealt with it in about as humane a way as you possibly can.
I mean, when they talk about civilian buildings being bombed, do they forget about what Germany did during World War II?
Weren't those civilian buildings that were hitting in London and England?
Weren't they civilian buildings that were hitting in France, Czechoslovakia?
And when the English responded, what are they hitting in Germany?
civilian buildings.
And the reality is that Hamas is not an unwanted group in Gaza.
They either embrace Hamas or don't like Hamas, but embrace what Hamas stands for, which is hatred of the Jewish people.
They're all trained to hate Jews from the day they're born.
And Americans.
And they do a pretty good job of it.
So... I think it is absolutely necessary that...
We get this over with.
And I think Biden did a tremendous, oh, how many?
Disservice is such a weak word.
An enormously anti-humane act in stretching this out and hoping that Israel would lose.
Remember, he didn't even want him to respond to the attack killing the 1,200 people.
So we're going to take a short break because we want to make sure our cameras are straightened out.
And then when we come back, we're going to talk a little about Pete Higset.
And where he stands and what they're trying to do to him, because, I mean, this is brutal.
But I guess we had to expect it.
It was brutal the first time, too.
But we'll be right back.
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Here we are, pretty much at the beginning of the process here at this pristine, I call it a laboratory.
It's not like a factory, it's like a hospital.
This is the beginning of the process for roasting.
Deep grain, very good quality.
Most people don't use this quality.
We deal with small farmers because we like to know who we're dealing with.
They give us the highest quality.
All organic, non-GMO.
You should know, all Arabica beans.
No robusto.
All Arabica.
They're going to go into the roaster and it'll get roasted for about 20 minutes or so.
Oh, my goodness.
Look at these.
My goodness!
Ha ha ha!
You're going to want to specially order these.
This is what goes into Rudy's coffee.
This is Rudy Giuliani back with you again.
And we were talking about Pete Hakeseth, and they're now going after Pete because he...
you.
Because they say he included two of his A's that he shouldn't have and his wife in learning some things about the attack on the Houthis in Yemen.
Now, there's nothing that I know of that suggests that any of this is classified.
And his wife is not a practicing journalist.
She was a journalist.
She's an expert in this area.
And unless it's classified information that she's not entitled to, maybe he's gotten her a classification.
He's certainly entitled to talk to her about it.
And I have no idea why his two aides have been now summarily thrown out.
Which they call a sensitive group chat.
Well, I mean, everything you talk about in the government is sensitive.
Of course it's a sensitive group chat.
Was it classified?
And then, what level of classification?
I mean, some levels of classification involve, you know, treason.
And some levels of classification are bullshit.
And the penalties are accordingly.
I mean, if you ever threw everybody out that Made a mistake with classified defense.
There may not be left in the arm.
And also, they over-classify.
Or under-classify.
Before you can start getting holier than thou about classification, the whole damn system has to become a lot more disciplined.
Because otherwise, it's very often a trap for the unwary.
You can't have a discussion without talking about classified information.
Maybe. I mean, this is ridiculous.
Nothing happened as a result of this.
No harm, no foul.
When I look at it, it's not the kind of information that jumps out at me.
First of all, it doesn't look like it was classified.
Number two, it definitely doesn't look like it has to be classified.
I have a pretty good...
I spent a lot of time working on classified information.
And for years, I've had this objection.
It's almost useless because it's overused.
It's like, you know, crying chicken all the time or crying wolf all the time.
And there's no wolf.
And then finally there's a wolf and you're dead because nobody listens to you.
A terrible, terrible, terrible, terrible, terrible death in the Bronx.
I look at the little boy's face and let me see if I can find it for you.
It just is such a tragedy.
Look at that little boy.
Can we...
Is there any way they can see it up there, Ted, or I can show it through here?
This is a terrible thing.
This is terrible.
What's his name?
Lisa Cotton, 38, and her 8-year-old son, Nazir Millian, had been dead for two weeks before relatives found them.
And then the toddler.
The toddler survived by feeding herself with chocolate.
Her brother, her mother died of starvation.
And for two weeks, New York City's Administration for Children's Services never got in to see them.
I started the Administration for Children's Services with the help of Howard Wilson.
And Nick Scopetto was the first commissioner.
And it was...
It was...
Terrific innovation.
And I did it because of Elisa Escorto, who died around Christmas time of 1994.
And I said, this is not going to happen again.
And I went and I got the chief of my criminal division from the U.S. Attorney's Office, who ran the chief inspector in New York.
And ran the Department of Investigation.
And I asked him if he would...
I said, this is absurd.
We take care of welfare as part of the welfare agency.
We take care of children all the way under all those billions of dollars in welfare that are being stolen.
It's a little teeny agency and we steal money from it all the time.
And then kids die like crazy.
So Howard said, you're damn right.
He looked at it and he said, you know, I'm against establishing new agencies.
We all are.
You need an agency that just concentrates on children.
Administration for Children's Services, we found a very fine building right near Bellevue.
I convinced a man way overqualified for the job.
Brilliant man, a great man.
Nick Scopetta had been an assistant U.S. attorney, had been one of the chief leaders of the Knapp Commission.
Had prosecuted and turned around the police department in New York, was my boss and close friend, a great lawyer, had already been a deputy mayor, as well as head of the Department of Investigation.
And he volunteered for it.
I mean, I didn't, I, if I recall correctly, I went to Nick.
To ask Nick for advice about who could do this.
And Nick was brought up in foster homes, he and his brother.
And I knew the story, and I had become a great man.
And he said, what about if I do it, Rudy?
I said, you've got to be kidding me.
Howard and I were elated.
And he did, and he did a great job with it.
I can't tell you how many lives he saved.
I mean, the only credit I take for it is I made this election.
He did all the work.
And to see this happen to this, I mean, Nick has to be, let's say a little prayer to him.
You got to straighten this out, Adams.
This is bigger than Republican does.
This is my kids.
This is about kids.
The little baby, I guess, is still surviving.
We got an 8-year-old dead.
We got a 38-year-old dead.
We have them locked up in there for two weeks and they don't get in.
The cops went there on Tuesday and didn't get in.
People had reported a stench and the cops didn't pick up the stench.
The toddler survived by feeding herself with chocolate.
The mother was a serious, serious problem.
The mother had a pending case against her for child neglect.
She was arrested in 2021 for child abandonment.
Okay.
It needs a revision again.
Maybe these things have to be done every 20 years.
I don't know.
But... This shouldn't happen.
Do you know how it breaks my heart to see what happens in New York City?
After I fixed a lot of this, please, I'm not bragging.
I really am not.
I didn't just fix it.
I just knew a lot of people.
I knew a lot of good people.
Who would have known Nick Scapetta?
I mean, Nick did it.
Nick turned it around.
Now, I selected him.
I did have the guts to turn anything around I had to to save lives and to save kids and to save black people.
I cared so much more about black people than the black politicians.
It was ridiculous.
I used to go nuts when they would call me a racist.
I'm doing this because I love these people.
I don't want to see them get killed like this.
I mean, Charlie Randall doesn't give a shit.
He'd been there.
Fat little bastard had been there for so long and walked out with 27 million.
How the hell do you think he did that off the backs of his people?
I mean...
It was hard.
I know, I know, I know, I know, I know.
I probably didn't deal with the congressional delegation as well as I should because I couldn't stand them.
I thought they were a bunch of bloodsuckers.
You know, this young lady who had all these problems, Lisa Cotton, I just, I don't know if I can get that thing up, but I want to show you what a pretty girl she was.
That's the mommy right there.
Right there.
What a pretty girl.
But, you know, behind that is so many problems.
And I don't know, you don't know, you don't know if you had a good system for working with them as we did, as we developed, as Nick developed.
When I say we, as Nick developed it, Howard and I was so proud
say we, as Nick developed it, Howard and I was so proud of him.
Maybe you could have saved her.
Maybe. Maybe not.
I mean, I'm going to throw out a number.
You could probably avoid 50% of these with good, solid work.
I don't even mean any great breakthrough, any great knowledge.
I mean really being disciplined and organized and not a bunch of bums.
So don't give a shit.
I don't know.
You go there and there are dead bodies inside.
You don't even smell it.
The neighbors smell it.
You don't even smell it.
You probably don't...
You don't care enough to smell it.
You don't care.
Jamie Raskin, Congressman Jamie Raskin, is one massive disloyal piece of shit.
you.
He's threatening foreign leaders who are threatening authoritarianism in our country.
He wants to cut aid to El Salvador.
Because they're helping us with the 10 to 15 million people that came into this country illegally, that he supported.
They should be sitting in jail.
I mean, sometime we'll go into that bum.
When I testified, and they've destroyed my testimony, I made a total jackass out of that new one.
I don't think I'm allowed to tell you about it.
It wasn't even hard.
I think I could do it half asleep.
little turd
You know, these things you've got to point out because they happen and nobody, you know, in Utah on Friday, on Good Friday.
hit a Tesla while driving it over a thousand hours an hour.
He was driving 150, 120 miles an hour.
He hit it on purpose to push it off the road.
He had a suspended license.
And he had drug paraphernalia.
It is Utah.
He may go to jail.
If it was in New York, they just, you know, let him out quickly so he could do it again.
How about this?
I mean, you know, the four boroughs of New York absent Staten Island, the justice system there is a complete mass of corruption.
The judges are appointed by the county leaders.
The county leaders appoint Democrats, and the Democrats do what they want.
And they have phony elections like Ingramoron, who has been elected three times without an opponent.
I mean, it's one political ass-licker after another on the bench.
And when the county leader wants something, like Keith Wright.
Whose father was probably one of the worst judges in the history of New York.
He gets what he wants.
It's a disgusting, awful system, and it's been that way most of the time since about 1840.
It used to be controlled by the mafia.
It wasn't even hard.
They're looking for a mafia to control them.
They make more money.
Do you know that they closed down the courthouse and they left two jurors in a room for hours and hours and hours?
the Brooklyn court officials I mean this is the least of what they do
Half the people that should go to jail and walk in the streets beating the shit out of you.
Alright. Alright.
Well, there was an Easter parade on...
I don't want to show you some pictures of it, but I don't think we're set up to do it right.
Because we won't be able to show anything on there, right?
Right? We'll show them tomorrow, yeah.
Okay. If we take a break, I can come over and fix it.
No, no, you don't feel well.
Ted is...
Ted is...
Anybody has any recommendations?
I got a couple from the mayor looking for others.
So, what I do want to tell you about, which is a very nice story, we might as well tell one nice story before we, is that since the pandemic,
you know, since the, whatever you want to call that, Right?
The virus.
Somehow I think that was all completely orchestrated.
The number of people returning to the Catholic Church is demonstrably increasing since the pandemic.
So they did a little article about it today, which is a nice one, a nice article, a nice after Easter article.
And they featured this young man.
Sidney Johnson.
And he is 30 years old.
He converted to Catholicism on the Upper West Side of Manhattan.
And he says, I'm going to quote Mr. Johnson.
Maybe we'll try to get him on.
The church really communicates the degree of reverence that I didn't find in the more liberal, laissez-faire approach.
of non-denominational churches.
He was confirmed in December at the Church of Notre Dame in Morningside huts.
According to the National Catholic Register, there's been, depending on where in America, Catholic dioceses have increased, have had 30 to 70 percent more converts than the year before or the years before.
There's been a marked increase in converts and people, what we call fallen Catholics, returning to the church.
30 to 70 percent.
The diocese of Fort Worth, Texas, experienced a 72 percent jump in converts between 23 and 24. 72 percent.
And they cited the pandemic.
The internet and all of its bad influence and a distaste for lax Protestant alternatives, which are more like social clubs than religions.
Growing up in Orange County, this is a...
Make sure I have the right person here.
The first gentleman that I talked about.
you.
30-70% in converts from diocese to diocese, and Fort Worth was 72%.
Mr. Johnson, who we mentioned earlier, felt much more like a cultural experience outside of the Catholic Church than something that was really rooted in history.
theological basis.
I just started reading the Bible and I found so much wisdom, beauty, and meaning.
And this is now The Reverend Raymond Maria Lagrange of the Church of St. Vincent Ferrer on Lexington Avenue says that three-quarters of his new converts,
three-quarters of his...
Oh, I should tell you about the Church of St. Vincent Ferrer.
That was my church.
It is run by the Dominican priests, Dominican friars.
I got close to them, oh, a long time ago when I gave the commencement address at Providence College, which is run by the Dominican priests and brothers.
It's a beautiful church, St. Vincent Ferrer.
It's on Lexington Avenue and 66th Street, 66th, 65th.
And then it has a beautiful rectory.
Used to have something like 101 Friars for the address or something.
They changed it now.
The priests are wonderful there.
They're just wonderful.
But Father Reverend Raymond Maria Lagrange, he confirmed that three-quarters of his new converts are in their 20s, early 30s.
And a lot of it came with During and after COVID.
And the parish has grown substantially since then.
And I saw some of that.
You know, I've moved out of there now, but I saw some of that.
I saw that.
It used to amaze me to see how it was growing and how many young people were there.
I've been going there for a number of years on and off.
And all of a sudden, big boom.
And now I guess it's increased.
you have to go back and take a good look.
Thank you.
Then they have a little story here about Adrienne Lawson, who founded Catholicism via the Internet.
She was raised non-denominationally.
She considered herself an atheist.
And in her early 20s, she started reading about God and thought about various religions and selected Catholicism as what she regarded as the most thoroughgoing.
She was wrestling with mental illness and the meaning of life.
And those are questions I couldn't answer without religion.
My mental health improved very quickly.
Isn't that wonderful?
Thank you.
And so the estimate is that there's been about a 50% increase.
This is a Houston parish, in the converts in this Houston parish.
In Austin, Texas, there's been another big increase, including this young woman who was interviewed, Maureen Minamaya, who was of the Shinto faith.
And she was studying at Columbia, and she started reading about theology and converted.
There are a lot of very, very good stories like this, and it's a wonderful thing to see that we're going through a period of religious growth, and within a...
And I will say, being a Catholic, I hope you don't misunderstand this, but a very demanding religion, not a...
Not a religion that you have to adapt yourself to rather than it'll adapt itself to you.
Because it stands for something.
Beautiful thing to see.
And when I'm in New York, I'm going to go take a look at some of those churches.
I used to sometimes, around this time of year, there used to be a thing about visiting three churches on Holy Thursday night.
And as a child, I did it.
And then as an adult male, I did it often just to see what was going on in the churches.
It'd be good to take a look at some of these churches and see how they are doing.
I went to Easter Mass in New Hampshire, and it was, you know, full.
And it was the...
11 o'clock Mass.
And it seemed like it was the enthusiasm level was quite high.
You know, I remember the church in the 50s and the 60s, the Catholic Church, when it was standing room only.
Maybe they're on their way back to that.
I mean, people need God.
We need God.
And even if...
Even if you don't believe in God, if most people in society believed in God, we'd have a much better world.
Now, I do.
And that's not an excuse.
I believe completely, 100%.
I mean, of course, like anyone, belief in God requires some degree of doubt.
That's why it's belief.
It's faith.
It's not science.
It comes close to science.
Almost, it's almost scientific by process of elimination.
In that, give me another explanation that's better.
You're going to tell me the big bang theory.
Who banged?
Somebody had a bang.
Maybe that was God.
Come on, tell me how it began.
Bang! Okay, somebody had to say bang.
See, I just said bang.
So, somewhere here in Florida, they don't tell us exactly where, because I could scare a lot of my friends with this.
I have a lot of friends that are scared of animals.
I don't know why.
I'm not.
I remember once I hit a ball near the water here in Florida, and I'm walking up to go hit my ball, and I wasn't paying attention.
And all of a sudden, I see my good friend, Bo Wagner, behind me.
He's got his gun out.
What the hell's he got his gun out for?
He said,"Don't you see that alligator?" He said,"That guy comes any closer, I'm gonna bore him away." I said,"Come on, we can just go around him." I don't know why these things never got to me.
Someday I'll probably just get eaten up by an alligator.
Well, these two alligators...
Ended up, and I wish I could show you the pictures.
Let me see, maybe I can show you from the paper, if I have it in the paper here.
Here, here.
I don't know, it's hard to see on this one, but look.
Look, look at this one.
You can see the, I don't know if you can see it, but there's the alligators, like standing up, he's got his nose up against the door, and the little alligator's behind him.
Can you imagine seeing that guy at your door?
That's somewhere in Florida.
You know what he's looking for?
He's looking for a meal.
And then he's got the little guy here.
Little guy down here.
It's a great headline.
This is by Fabiana Buontempo.
Nice Italian name.
Fabiana Buontempo.
Scaly creeps knock on Florida front door.
I agree.
Scaly creeps.
So we've got still two situations that have to be fixed.
And one Israel and, of course, Iran.
And I'm getting a little nervous about it, I must say.
I just think the only safe solution for the world is to blow away their nuclear capacity.
I don't care what kind of an agreement we reach.
And I hope if we do, it's as airtight as possible.
And I'll pray for it.
I'll pray for its success.
I'll pray for its success.
But knowing the vagaries of politics and what could be done after I left office, I would not leave office with a nuclear, with an Iran three months or four months or five months away from being a nuclear power.
I bought their damn nuclear capacity to smithereens.
And if they wanted the peaceful use of nuclear power, I'd say, screw you.
You're going to have to do it the old-fashioned way.
You're not to be trusted.
Sorry. You scared the world too much with your nuclear crap.
You're not going to have it.
And I kicked the Ayatollah out before I left office, because somebody else might not.
We've had them around long enough, and we've played pussyfoot with them long enough.
And we went after a lot of other countries, like Iraq and even Gaddafi.
These people are ten times worse.
Ten times worse.
You know, you may put them down for a little while and they'll sit out Trump, but...
They'll be hoping that we get foolish enough to elect one of those communists, who also seem to like them.
I mean, the communist part, I get.
Biden's sellout to Red China.
Obama's sellout to Marxism, Hillary.
What the hell were they in love with Iran for?
I get it with, I guess, with Obama, because I think Obama...
Was just a real hater of America.
As his wife said, his election was the first good thing that happened in America.
I think they really believe that.
I think they hate this country.
I don't know that he's a religious Muslim.
I think he's a political Muslim.
The other guy is just a total crook, Biden, and therefore got a whole administration where people just...
You know, acted for themselves.
When the president does that, they all act for themselves.
Trump only has a certain amount of time to fix it.
And one of the things that has to be fixed is Iran.
And we're so close.
We're so close to go with an agreement with these people.
I mean, it's been 40 years of their bullshitting.
Thank you.
Let's see.
Let's see what happens.
It's still not over yet.
Well, we'll be back tomorrow.
We will, at 7 o'clock, we'll be on Lindell TV.
And, of course, we'll be on X, where you can always find us, right?
And then at 8, we'll be back.
And we'll be back for our 600-and-something show.
I know we're in the 600.
652? So we're halfway through 600, see?
We've been on a while.
A couple times we were close to being thrown off.
But we hung in there.
We hung in there.
And, you know, it's good.
Because we can get you things that other people don't.
And I'm very proud of that.
I'm very proud of Ted.
Who's feeling very ill tonight, you should know.
And he's making a hell of an effort keeping this thing going.
And I'm proud of him.
Because we really feel we have an obligation to get these things to you.
You know, sometimes you get them the next day.
I mean, it's great because we often get as many viewers after, like overnight and tomorrow, as we have now.
And then, of course, you can always go back and find it for reference.
So, thank you.
Thank you for supporting us, and thank you very, very much for listening and watching and supporting us and supporting our advertisers who are all very, very close friends.
We don't just have advertisers.
They're causes.
And I don't think we just have listeners.
We've got a few that just hate us and listen to try to find a mistake.
And then we've got the people who are with us and wanting to see this country be what it could be and can be and should be and has to be if we want to save the world.
So we are in a very, very holy season.
One day after the resurrection of our Lord Jesus Christ, during the period of time that he remained on earth to settle things for his church.
And to settle things for humanity.
And I think it's a good time to reflect on religion and what it means to us and how important it is to us.
And we'll try to look for things like that, like we did today about the growth of the Catholic Church.
I'd like to see that with other churches as well.
I'm sure it's going on.
We'll take a look.
And I hope it's the conservative traditional churches that
it difficult.
Yeah.
Because when it's difficult, your feeling of satisfaction is so much greater.
But we can discuss that tomorrow.
And I hope you all have a wonderful evening.
And again, we'll be back at 7 on Lindell and X. And then we'll be back here on X and everybody else that we're on.
Wherever you're watching us, you can watch us again.
And Ted will feel much better by tomorrow.
I can tell.
There's the worst of it, I can tell.
I'm surprised he's even awake.
Well, pray for the people of Israel.
Pray for the people of the Ukraine.
Pray for the people of Iran.
And pray for all of us, the whole world, all the people of the world, so that our world improves.
And... The Vatican?
Yeah, and I don't know that we ought to pray for...
It almost seems strange to say to pray for the repose of the soul of the Pope.
My goodness, we've got to pray for the Pope.
We're really in trouble.
Maybe we pray to the Pope.
Maybe we pray to the Pope.
Tell him that even though we've had disagreements with him on things, which is unusual for a pope, he still was a great man and a man of God and a man who spread God.
All of us have a right to look at things in somewhat different ways.
But he was a good man.
And it's a great church when it's keeping itself focused.
And I think right now it's very focused.
I think they're going to make an excellent choice.
I really have a very good feeling about it.
I think he's left them in that sense very disciplined.
Let's see what happens.
You never know, right?
The selection of Pope is part of our history.
So it's going to be a very fascinating period of time.
I know quite a bit about it and with my senior placker and lots of other people who will put on.
They'll be able to tell you a great deal of the history of this unbelievable part of Western civilization, which is what it is, the papacy.
Let's pray to the deceased pope.
Why don't we pray to him?
He's a saint now.
I mean, maybe not officially, but he is.
Let's pray to him for guidance and help and to intercede for us.
I don't think he's going to have too much interceding for himself.
Sort of intercede for us.
And I know he wasn't the biggest on America, but maybe if you're up there now, you can take a broader view of it.
Maybe that liberation theology thing really was shitty, huh?
And maybe we're a lot better people than you think here in America.
A lot more moving things in the direction that you really want things to go.
Maybe. I don't know if that's that much of a prayer, but pray for us.
And we're going to pray for you, probably.
Here's what we'll do.
We're going to pray for you.
We're going to pray for the repose of the soul of the Pope.
And if he doesn't need it, God, please apply it to somebody else.
So that needs it, like Ted and me.
So Ted's going to feel better by tomorrow.
I know it.
And we're going to see you tomorrow.
God bless America.
purpose to bring to bear the principle of common sense and rational discussion to the issues of our day.
America was created at a time of great turmoil, tremendous disagreements, anger, hatred.
It was a book written in 1776 that guided much of the discipline of thinking
That brought to us the discovery of our freedoms, of our God-given freedoms.
It was Thomas Paine's Common Sense, written in 1776, one of the first American bestsellers in which Thomas Paine explained, by rational principles, the reason why these small colonies felt the necessity to separate from the Kingdom of Great Britain and the King of England.
He explained their inherent desire for liberty, for freedom, freedom of religion, freedom of speech, the ability to select the people who govern them.
And he explained it in ways that were understandable to all the people, not just the elite.
Because the desire for freedom is universal.
The desire for freedom adheres in the human mind and it is part of the human soul.
This is exactly the time we should consult our history.
Look at what we've done in the past and see if we can't use it to help us now.
We understand that our founders created the greatest country in the history of the world.
The greatest democracy, the freest country.
A country that has taken more people out of poverty than any country ever.
All of us are so fortunate to be Americans.
But a great deal of the reason.
For America's constant ability to self-improve is because we're able to reason.
We're able to talk.
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