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March 12, 2025 - Rudy Giuliani

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America’s Mayor Live (623): US Stock Market Rises as President Trump Remains Confident with Strategy

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	Good evening.
	This is Rudy Giuliani, and this is America's Mayor live from Palm Beach.
	So let's start.
	We left off on the Rudy Giuliani show with Ukraine.
	So let's start with Ukraine.
	We didn't really finish the whole analysis of it, and we'll probably never finish the whole analysis of it.
	This is a thousand-year...
	This is a thousand-year dispute as to whether Russia owns Ukraine.
	And honestly, it's not about whether Ukraine is independent.
	It's about whether Ukraine owns Russia.
	Because they both...
	The original...
	If you look at the map here, the original...
	This is undisputed.
	The original delivery of Christianity, conversion to Christianity around, I'm speaking very broadly now, but around the 1,000th century, 1,000 years after Christ, the 11th century, was here.
	That's Kiev, or Kiev.
	And then Moscow, Moscow's not on this map, but totally over here.
	And then they moved here, and the church eventually located here.
	And, you know, a lot of the czars didn't like Moscow.
	I don't know if Kiev ever became the capital of Russia again.
	But St. Petersburg, which is up here, became the capital of Russia on the Peter the Great.
	And a lot of Russians preferred living in Ukraine to living in Russia.
	I guess the climate's a little easier.
	The agriculture is fabulous.
	At times, Ukraine was known as the breadbasket of Europe.
	It's been an enormously productive country.
	It also is blessed.
	Like Kazakhstan, there are certain areas of Russia that are absolutely useless.
	Like there are any country, I guess.
	And there are certain areas of Russia that are unbelievably wealthy.
	Well, Ukraine's got a lot of that.
	And so there are a lot of reasons, also including, if you look at it on the bigger map, the bigger European map, you'll see that it's a protection.
	The real animosity that always existed was not necessarily between Ukraine and Russia.
	It was between Poland and Russia.
	Now, there's a reason for that.
	Ukraine largely and Russia share the same religion.
	The Orthodox religion.
	Poland is Roman Catholic.
	Poland has spent most of its time from the time they became Orthodox in trying to convert them.
	And I think regretting that they weren't the ones that showed up in Kiev first to make it Roman Catholic.
	So particularly under the leadership of the Jesuit order, which formed around the 17th century.
	There were all kinds of incursions in here.
	And they had some degree of success in Ukraine, which is about 10% Roman Catholic, maybe bigger Roman Catholic than that, but certainly not as big as the Orthodox.
	And in Russia, it may be as 5% Roman Catholic.
	So this has been a big source of dispute between them.
	The end result, which we might as well get, The end result is the debate here is going to be about three things.
	It's going to be about territory, security guarantees, and mineral rights.
	Territory means will Russia give back any of the territory they captured?
	And this territory they captured is the dark.
	A darker area on the map, which could be known as a direct and complete roadway to Crimea.
	Here's Russia, there's Crimea.
	Russians believe really deep down, really, really deep down, the Russians believe that Crimea belongs to them.
	They believe Ukraine belongs to them, but...
	They believe even stronger that Crimea belongs to them.
	And the areas that they took of Ukraine are heavily populated with ethnic Russians.
	And when Ukraine was not occupied by Russia in any respect at all, those areas would traditionally vote for the Ukrainian candidate who was pro-Russian.
	So the places they've taken are not completely alien.
	We're going to want some of that back.
	Just, first of all, to get a really good negotiation that doesn't look like Putin got everything he wanted, he should give something back.
	Second, if Ukraine can hold on to Kursk, they're going to have to give him something back to get Kursk back, which the Ukrainians very, very opportunistically took from them.
	And finally, there's a real interest for us.
	In taking back a certain region of this country because there's a certain region here of the country that has minerals.
	So two-thirds of the minerals we're not going to have a problem with.
	We're going to get 50% of those, and they are in the main part of Ukraine that hasn't been taken by Russia unless something unbelievable happens.
	But one-third is...
	Hidden in that area there that you're looking at.
	And I am sure that the president constantly saying that Putin's got to give territory back.
	I'm sure they're looking at this territory right there.
	That's largely, not completely, but the Donbass region, Donetsk, Luhansk.
	Those areas contain disproportionately large amounts of the minerals that we need to compete effectively with China to be dominant in technology.
	So aren't you impressed with the unbelievable level of strategy that Trump has in the deals that he puts together?
	God, it's so way beyond the capacity of The jerk-off who was there before him.
	What I just said to you, go back to when I used to negotiate the 1994 crime bill with him.
	He'd retain one fact.
	You know, a pretty girl walked in.
	That's what he would remember.
	But for him to remember all this, even if I drew it out like this for him, I'll tell you sometime my discussion with him on Star Wars or nuclear defense, which he never understood.
	So, you know, I don't know how many of Trump's campaign promises he's already capped.
	And some of them, you know, he has to keep over a whole administration, but he said he was going to secure the border.
	The border is secure.
	He set a record last month, month of February, for the least number of crossings ever.
	You can't do better than that.
	Now, he said he would get rid of all the illegals.
	He's doing that.
	And he said he'd particularly get rid of the illegals who were criminals or who were hostile to the United States or a threat to our national security.
	Now, unless you are a left-wing Democrat in New York, judge, who doesn't care much about the United States, like the judge who decided that we should wait to throw this guy out, I don't know what...
	I don't know what Mahmoud Khalil has to do to convince you that he hates America and therefore doesn't have a right to have the privilege of being here.
	He has no right to be here.
	He wasn't born here and he isn't a citizen.
	It's a privilege for him to be here.
	If you made it a right for him to be here, the whole world could walk in here and swallow us up.
	Now, there are people that are so unrealistic and stupid they would let that happen.
	But those people should not be in public office.
	And God forbid, they should have no responsibility for the lives and safety of other people, even their families.
	So, this guy has led demonstration after demonstration.
	That involved fires, things burned down.
	The damage he's done and his riots are considerably worse than any of the J6 people.
	He's assaulted police officers?
	Oh my God, wasn't that something that, if you assaulted a police officer, if you assaulted a Capitol Section police officer, you should go to jail for 42 years.
	But if you assault a New York City cop, you get the Congressional Medal of Honor, according to the Democrats.
	I mean, I haven't seen too many films of police being assaulted, really assaulted, by the J6 people.
	I've seen plenty of pictures of these guys trying to kick the shit out of cops.
	I also don't see anything burning on J6. Almost every rally they have, they burn something, and they had some pretty bad ones at Columbia.
	And finally, okay, they say they were obstructing the vote.
	Well, they did the vote.
	The kids in Columbia couldn't go to school.
	And the Jewish kids, if they aren't frightened, they're not human.
	And why are we perpetuating, probably by, without any doubt, certainly in Western civilization, the biggest sin that you can think of, which is the hatred, the insane, irrational, sick, pathological hatred of the Jewish people.
	Why are we tolerating that?
	We don't owe this guy anything.
	He owes us a lot.
	We let him come from Syria, which is a country with a lot of people who hate us, and a country that's right now massively killing Christians.
	And we're doing shit about it.
	And we're giving him all these breaks?
	The President of the United States has determined that he is a threat to our national security.
	That's enough.
	The immigration to the United States is an executive function.
	We have three branches of government.
	Judiciary has no role in it.
	Nobody appointed judges to figure out who should and shouldn't be in the United States.
	Congress can make laws, but there are enough laws for the president to come to the determination that this guy is dangerous to our country.
	Who can come to that determination better than anybody else?
	The president.
	So a court would have to find.
	That there was no reasonable basis for Marco Rubio or Donald Trump to come to the conclusion this guy is a threat to our national security.
	And that is intellectually impossible.
	In other words, you have to be intellectually dishonest to say there's no reasonable basis.
	You can say you don't agree with it.
	You can say you don't think it's enough.
	But that the guy led 20 demonstrations.
	In favor of a registered terrorist group, which is dedicated to taking the lives of Americans and has, is dedicated to the destruction of our greatest ally, Israel.
	That the guy has participated in riots and participated in demonstrations where maybe we can't prove he lit the match, but he started the riot that led to the fire.
	That those demonstrations materially interfered with young people getting their education.
	And in particular, frightened the living daylights, as it would any young person for Jewish people, and reignited the sick aspect of anti-Semitism that is only going to serve to divide the American people.
	And then I can give you ten other reasons.
	There is no way an intellectually honest judge doesn't defer.
	To the discretion of the president in a situation like this.
	And if he doesn't, he's trashing the Constitution.
	So, Judge, I don't know what the hell is going on, but my experience with judges in New York is horrifying.
	I know people would think I'm overstating it if I say that my own personal experience in New York, him being before a judge is there, or what I watched with President Trump was, I don't know.
	I might have had a chance, a better chance than the Soviet Union.
	I had no chance.
	I mean, I walked into court and I knew what the decision was going to be.
	In two of my cases, the judge had already written the opinion before my lawyer even finished the argument.
	He just read it right from the bench, which meant my lawyer's argument was just bullshit.
	I have a case in which...
	I was found liable without a trial.
	I was found liable before I even entered the court.
	Well, going along with this is taking $564 million from Colombia with the possibility of taking the full $1.5 billion.
	I'm in favor of that.
	Colombia doesn't need $1.5 billion.
	They're just using it to make our kids Marxist.
	They're using it against the best interests of the United States.
	They don't train good American citizens.
	And what the hell is wrong with a college training good American citizens?
	That's what education is supposed to be for.
	It's one of the ways in which we hold together our society, our culture.
	Illegal protesters should be expelled from the United States when they're not citizens.
	And when they commit crimes, They shouldn't be set free the way every single one was at Columbia, all the other universities, or in the summer of 2020. Is there a reason they're set free?
	Did Soros pay for that?
	Now you say, Giuliani, why are you charging poor old Soros?
	I mean, Soros, not a bad guy.
	I mean, okay, when he was young, he just sent Jewish kids off to their deaths, but...
	You know, since then, he's been like a really good guy.
	He corrupted four or five Eastern European governments.
	He's taken about 50 cities.
	And okay, he's responsible for more black deaths probably than anyone in modern America by reducing the policing, by changing the laws, by putting in crooked DAs so that black murders go up three times, four times, five times.
	He's responsible for Philadelphia setting a record for murder in the long history of Philadelphia twice in a row, and 80% of the people who murder are black people.
	Oh, gosh, same thing in St. Louis and Rochester.
	Chicago's not far behind.
	That's also a Soros DA. Weekends are just a guess as to how many people are going to die on the weekends, and 70-80% of you in the black community.
	Just a question of how many and how fast and do we have five people dead or 25?
	So...
	These people...
	these people are dangerous to the United States of America, and their visas should be revoked, and they should be thrown out of the United States, and the president should have the authority to do that, and he does under the Constitution.
	We'll be right back.
	Here we are, pretty much at the beginning of the process here at this pristine, I call it a laboratory.
	It's not like a factory.
	This is the beginning of the process for roasting.
	Deep grain, very good quality.
	Most people...
	Don't use this quality.
	We deal with small farmers because we like to know who we're dealing with.
	They give us the highest quality, all organic, non-GMO. You should know all Arabica beans.
	No robusto.
	All Arabica.
	they're gonna go into the roaster and it'll get roasted for about 20 minutes or so oh my goodness look at these
	my goodness you're gonna want to specially order these This is what goes into Rudy's coffee.
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	And for a limited time, This is Bernie Giuliani, and we're back with another segment.
	And I tell you, the Trump administration doesn't make many mistakes, even little ones.
	Now, this one has to be attributed to the guy being a kid, but it was really an embarrassment more than a mistake.
	Our relationship with Russia, our relationship with Israel can sustain this.
	But Adam Bowler, going off by himself, negotiating with Hamas, I don't know Adam Bowler, which has said something.
	What the hell was he thinking?
	He wanted to get hostages back.
	Now, I don't know how old he is.
	I don't even know what he looks like.
	He sounds like he's about 12. And he goes over and he starts negotiating with Hamas.
	Okay, all right.
	That's kind of stupid.
	You don't bring...
	I mean, there's only one American left and all the rest are Israelis.
	The relationship between Israel and the United States should be like that.
	No daylight.
	Not that much.
	Every idiot should know that, right?
	Bowler, you should have known that.
	He goes and he starts negotiating.
	And he says, when he's asked why, well, we have, you know, separate interests from Hamas, I mean, from Israel.
	What?
	What?
	Now, Bibi is mature enough and is secure enough, particularly, maybe this would have been a big problem with Biden, but he knows it.
	He knows what I, when the kids said it, I knew it was like crazy.
	But a lot of the people in Israel don't know that.
	So Israel went nuts.
	What's going on?
	What's going on?
	I mean, gosh, he doesn't even know about it.
	He's going to get the American, and then our people are just going to be laughing.
	You don't do this.
	You surely don't do this to an ally who, and this is not Trump's fault.
	This was Biden's fault.
	We are America.
	You don't do this to an ally who's been carrying off water for the last year.
	If America had its way, Hamas would still exist.
	Hezbollah would be as powerful as it was when we started.
	Assad would still be in Syria running the government for Iran and China and Russia.
	The Houthis would be flying three missions a day to blow up our ships and every other Western ship.
	And Israel maybe would have made some progress against Hamas.
	But remember, from day one, the United States, in the person of Biden and Blinken, from even before he attacked, said we should do a ceasefire.
	Actually, they wanted him to do a no-fire.
	To do a ceasefire before you're fired is a no-fire.
	They basically didn't want him to invade Gaza, which means Gaza would have been left just the way it was.
	When they sent in people, they killed 1,200 Jewish, mostly women and children.
	The men who were killed and the soldiers who were killed were collateral damage.
	And then they weren't just killed.
	They were beheaded.
	They were raped.
	The children were killed in front of the parents.
	The parents were killed in front of the children.
	They were taken off separately and led to believe that their children were alive and their children show up dead in a coffin.
	And then a guy is not told that his wife is dead.
	They send the wrong woman, the wrong body.
	And then when they're moving the bodies through the streets of Gaza, what's ever left of Hamas is cheering and acting like they're devils.
	And this guy says, you know, we have a separate interest with him.
	Then I'm going to tell you why I think he's a silly kid.
	Afterwards, he says, They're actually nice guys.
	But you just can't say that because they're terrorists.
	I think there's another line of work for them.
	Please don't have them responsible for the lives and safety of Americans.
	Please.
	I don't know if Biden had anybody worse than that.
	So get them the hell out of there.
	And I see that the Secretary of State has said, And it's so nice.
	I love Rubio.
	There's a beautiful way to say it, much better than I would ever have said it.
	This was a one-off.
	I don't know what a one-off is in diplomacy.
	Like, it was just crazy and wrong, and everybody makes a mistake.
	But I want to assure Israel that we're together on this, and we greatly appreciate the fact that you did our work for us.
	In exposing Iran for the paper tiger that they are, now we got to do the work with you and destroy them.
	Get the Ayatollah out and get a free government in there.
	And also, don't fool yourself.
	You're not going to have peace in the Middle East as long as the reign of terror is there.
	So long as the Ayatollah and the Moors and the religious theocracy, which is no different than a political ideology becoming homicidal like Nazism or communism, don't get fooled because which is no different than a political ideology becoming homicidal like Nazism or communism, don't Don't get fooled because they call it a religion.
	And also, go read some parts of the religion that justify it, which should be changed.
	A lot of modern Muslims change it, but a lot don't.
	And you leave those parts in the Koran about Muhammad killing people and Muhammad doing mass murders and Muhammad Killing mass, doing mass graves with Jews.
	Then you're going to get wackos like this who go off and do it.
	So there's a lot of work that has to be done.
	But we sure shouldn't be on their side.
	And they aren't nice guys.
	Every one of those people he was talking to has been trained since they were two years old to kill him.
	And if they had the opportunity, they would kill him.
	And this guy is living in some kind of a strange world.
	The same world, I guess, that those demonstrators.
	are living in when they're demonstrating in favor of a group of murderers against the United States.
	So the fact that the president today had, today he had the, I'm trying to remember, the Taoiseach of Ireland with him.
	So this should have been just a very friendly, the Irish are wonderful people, they've contributed a lot to America, the usual.
	Instead, I don't know how long the press conference was.
	It was like, it was like, he's so open and so transparent, and he just went on and on and on.
	And every once in a while he talked about Ireland, but he talked about, he talked about the agreement and why he thinks Putin should agree.
	He talked about these demonstrators should be thrown out of the United States.
	And then, just to see if we can find this, Ted, this is one of the things that it won't be in his greatest moments, but it will be in, if you did a biography or a documentary of Trump, and you wanted something that really revealed what he's like, this would be a moment in it.
	He's asked in front of...
	The Taoiseach, which means Prime Minister of Ireland, he's asked, do we have unfair agreements?
	Does Ireland have unfair agreements with us?
	Because he's talking about why the tariffs are necessary to straighten out the unfair agreements.
	So some other president would have lied or maybe give it a better interpretation, be diplomatic.
	He says straight out in a nice way, yes.
	The Taoiseach, who seemed like a very nice guy, just kind of a usual politician, the guy went like this.
	I thought they were going to stick something in his mouth.
	And then he sort of straightened it out a bit.
	He looked at it and said, it's not your fault.
	It's our fault because we had jerks negotiating.
	You took advantage of them.
	I'd have done the same thing.
	You had jerks negotiating.
	I'd take advantage of you.
	Yeah, Ireland has terrible agreements.
	I mean, they've taken away a great deal of the pharmaceutical industry from us.
	You know, Pfizer's main factory is in Ireland.
	I mean, they picked a hell of a country.
	And of course, the reporters would know because they're really stupid.
	Since they became so ideologically on one side, I think they don't think they have to do any research.
	They don't have to look at anything.
	To even ask them, do we have any unfair agreements with...
	Ireland means, you don't know, this is one of the countries that has raped the United States more than any other.
	The reason I am angry about it is, Pfizer was one of the biggest Fortune 500 companies in New York.
	Not only in New York, it started in Brooklyn, New York.
	Its factory in New York is a block and a half long.
	And they use maybe that much of it now.
	Because to make medicine in New York makes medicine even more expensive than it is already.
	So it's completely our fault.
	And when I say Ireland raped us, no, they didn't.
	They took advantage of our saying, yeah, you can have it and you can put a 50% tariff on our medicines that we send over.
	We like Ireland, so we won't put any tariffs on you.
	And now, you know, 3,000 people in Brooklyn don't have a job anymore unless they want to go live in Ireland.
	And Brooklyn continues to decline, and New York continues to decline.
	When I came into office, New York had a very, very solid record of not gaining a new Fortune 500 company in 20 years and losing 20. I don't know what it is now, but I can't think of a Fortune 500 company that would remain one for very long if they decided to come to New York.
	So, yeah, he's absolutely right to say it was our fault.
	But who would be as honest and as straightforward as that?
	And he said, by the time we're finished, we'll straighten it out.
	He looked into the T-shirt.
	I got to look at the tariffs.
	Whatever you're charging us, we're going to charge you.
	I think the guy was about ready to faint.
	First of all, he probably doesn't know what the tariffs are.
	Most of these guys, you know, spend their time going to parties.
	God forbid they should look at a budget.
	He probably doesn't know what the tariffs are.
	Maybe I'm wrong.
	Maybe I'm being unfair, but it didn't look that way.
	He just knew this was going to be a problem.
	He said, tell me how you argue with reciprocal tariffs.
	So I manufacture these pens.
	This is my business.
	I manufacture these pens.
	And I'm going to sell them to Ireland.
	And when I sell my pens to Ireland, and I got 20,000 people making these pens in New York or in Florida.
	And when I sell them to Ireland, they charge 20% more for the pen.
	But they also make these pens in Ireland, and they sell them to Florida.
	And we don't put a tariff on it.
	So you can buy these.
	So now here in Florida, you got Giuliani pens, and you got the Irish pens, and the Irish pens are 20% less.
	Not because I spend more manufacturing them or they spend less, but because their government put a tariff on us and my government didn't protect me.
	So now, over a period of time, my thousand people who live here don't have a job anymore.
	And I don't have a business, and I go try to find another business where my government isn't screwing me that way.
	You tell me how we hurt the economy if we put a 20% tariff on them, and then ultimately maybe both tariffs come off.
	We both get to sell here.
	I get the advantage of being closer to the consumer, so maybe it'll help the domestic industry.
	And they get the ability to sell here, and if they can make it cheaper, really cheaper, without the government subsidizing them, fine.
	That's what he's trying to do.
	That is not what they're saying it is.
	In fact, it is free trade.
	Free trade is not manipulated trade.
	This is like saying a basketball game is free and fair.
	If I go down the court and I score a basket and I get two points, you go down the court and you score a basket and you get 10 points.
	Now, are we having a free basketball game?
	Of course we're not.
	We're having an unfair basketball game, which is very unfree.
	It's like I'm living in a dictatorship.
	And why the Wall Street Journal in particular is going through a hissy fit over tariffs is amazing because they're smarter than that.
	There are downsides to tariffs and there are upsides to tariffs.
	And so far, he's been remarkably brilliant or lucky that he's gotten tremendous upsides.
	He's gotten about eight businesses that are coming to the United States who don't want to pay the tariff in Mexico.
	Also, I think I'd rather be in America than Mexico, right?
	Wouldn't you?
	So, we're going to take a short break.
	When we come back, we're going to have a very, very special guest.
	And I'm not even going to tell you who it is.
	I'm not even going to tell you who it is.
	I bet you're going to know who it is the minute he comes on.
	We'll be right back.
	Here we are, pretty much at the beginning of the process here at this pristine, I call it a laboratory.
	It's not like a factory, it's like a hospital.
	This is the beginning of the process for roasting.
	Deep grain, very good quality.
	Most people don't use this quality.
	We deal with small farmers because they like to know who we're dealing with.
	They give us the highest quality, all organic, non-GMO. You should know, all Arabica beans.
	No robusto.
	All Arabica.
	They're going to go into the roaster.
	and it'll get roasted for about 20 minutes or so oh my goodness look at these my goodness you're gonna want to specially order these
	This is what goes into Rudy's coffee.
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	This is Rudy Giuliani, and I'm back with you.
	And I know you know this man, Mike Lindell, who's here in Palm Beach and stopped by to say hello and always have lots of things we want to ask him about.
	So let's begin with what you just said to me.
	So a lot of people think, well, Trump was elected and the lawfare's over now.
	Right.
	Everything's over.
	Everything is straight.
	It all happens like this.
	Right.
	So tell them what they're doing to you in Minnesota.
	Oh, it's terrible.
	It's terrible.
	I'm getting attacked by Keith Ellison, the Attorney General of Minnesota.
	He went after my LyndaleRecoveryNetwork.org.
	Full-blown audit, attack and everything.
	The IRS has come after me the last—oh, they just turned it up the last four months.
	They want— Like six years of tax returns during all the attacks.
	Why are they going after your taxes?
	They're going after...
	Are you familiar with the employee retention credits?
	Yeah, yeah, yeah.
	The ones that had to do with the pandemic?
	Yeah, with the China virus.
	Yeah, sure, sure.
	I had to call it the China virus, but anyway.
	So here we have this virus, and companies that stayed open, like MyPillow did, we stayed open.
	And in 22 and 23, these third-party companies said, you know, there's money available that you stayed open from the government, and you get these employment retention credits because you stayed open.
	Well, what happened was that year in 22 and 23, You got these checks.
	You reported them on your taxes.
	Now the government came in.
	When Biden left, they said, you know what?
	Anybody that got checks in 22, 23, and 24, you got to go back and put that income back in 20 and 21. So in other words, here's what it manifests to.
	You've got to redo five years of tax returns.
	Any employees of mine that had stock in my pillow or any company across the country would have to do all them taxes and you would pay income tax on money you didn't receive until 22, 23, or 24. It's bizarre.
	You pay the income tax now?
	You have to pay it now for back then in 2021, even though you didn't get the money then.
	And you have to file an amended return.
	Five amended returns.
	I remember I had to do this.
	I had to do this once because I left something out.
	It all amounted to like $4,000 or $5,000.
	I had to do four returns to put them in the right year.
	I said, well, let me just tell you that with interest.
	But this is how bad this is.
	It affects probably 70% of the country.
	My pill is at the tip of the spear.
	I told the IRS guy, I said, no one's going to do this.
	I said, this is crazy.
	Redo the returns and people will owe money they don't have from back then.
	Oh, yeah.
	But he said, I said, no one's going to redo this.
	And he goes, well, you are, Mike.
	Oh, this is the IRS guy.
	So right now I'm working with the Justice Department, I mean the Treasury Department.
	I'm working with the Treasury Department and we're going to put a stop to it.
	Isn't this an unnecessary?
	Very burdensome.
	I mean, you think about it now, just you, but spread out across the entire economy.
	It's a waste of money because your taxes are already paid.
	Just pay the taxes on the year you got the money.
	That's all you have to do.
	It's unbelievable.
	And I'm so upset, but I'm once again the tip of the spear.
	Let's attack my pillow.
	And because their CEO will not shut up about the stolen elections.
	That's it.
	That's the whole reason.
	I thought that Keith Ellison was in Russia by now.
	No, not Russia, China.
	Russia's not even communist.
	I remember he was in Congress, right?
	Yeah, he's went after my Lindell Recovery Network.
	Did he change?
	I mean, he was a communist in Congress.
	No, he hasn't changed.
	He hasn't changed.
	He's worse.
	You should also know he's the attorney general of a state that is a sanctuary for mutilating children.
	So if you are worried and you have a child between the ages of whatever and 18, they can go to Minnesota, they can be mutilated, and you never find out about it.
	Because you're only the parent.
	And under Tampon Tim and this guy, Red Ellison.
	Yeah, yeah, exactly.
	It's the worst.
	They are, in the words of Karl Marx, your kids are property of the state.
	100%.
	It's been Minnesota, you know, everybody, all the states, you know, I went to them all during this last four years, and everyone says, we have the worst governor, we have the worst attorney, John, we have the worst secretary of state.
	Well, I will put Minnesota right in the top four.
	And I don't know who the other three are.
	It's really hard to say the worst governor.
	In 2022, when they have a governor's race, I thought Mercy in New Jersey was the worst governor, just based on the statistics of New Jersey.
	And like Cuomo, he killed a lot of old people.
	And actually, he had been told more directly.
	Then Cuomo, that you can't do this.
	I was probably told, but there were no witnesses.
	In the case of Murphy, there were two witnesses.
	We told him he can't do it, but he went ahead and did it.
	And he did it because he thought he was hurting.
	He thought they were hurting the nursing home industry because the hospitals were getting all the money for the deaths.
	So they put them in the nursing homes.
	So the nursing homes would get the money for the deaths.
	And of course, by putting them in, you get more deaths too.
	Right, right.
	Oh, absolutely.
	The testimony that was acquired, I don't know why they weren't prosecuted, they had people in their staff saying, well, they're only old people.
	A bunch of old people.
	Except if it was your grandmother or your mother.
	How about all the people that had people that died and never get to see them?
	Yeah, it was horrible.
	I had friends of mine.
	I had many, many friends of mine.
	One of them was in Bob Seger's band, Elton Reed.
	We couldn't get to see him.
	Because nobody could go in.
	They had relatives died, a father-in-law died.
	And during that time, we were fortunate.
	We were able to see them right at the end.
	But so many places, and Minnesota was one of the worst.
	You know, during that time, the nonsensical things, not just with that, but the, you know, we had to eat outside in snow banks.
	You know that, right?
	You couldn't have, you couldn't eat in the restaurants, so you go outside and they set you up.
	Right.
	You know, who's ever plate melted faster?
	Right.
	And then he...
	Tim Walz, he actually told us we could have only 10 people in our houses for Thanksgiving or Christmas, or both of them.
	And I remember my daughter calling up and going, Dad, you can't come over.
	The neighbors can turn in and do 90 days in jail.
	I said, oh, really?
	I said, I don't care.
	I said, I'll do the time.
	I mean, it was crazy.
	Then I remember him.
	I had all these masks before I knew they didn't work, and right before the 2020 election, I was going to donate them.
	The state of Minnesota said they needed them.
	And Walt's office said, no, we won't take them from Mike Lindell unless it's after the election, because it would have got publicity, you know, good publicity, I guess.
	And so I called him up.
	I said, I'm going to make a big deal out of this.
	If you don't take these, you need them.
	And he says, okay, but there can be no media there.
	And the F Park across the street.
	So we pull up with the big MyPillow truck.
	Well, his lady that he sent there, I think she got the virus or something, so she couldn't make it.
	So one of his other workers got there, and it was her last day.
	She didn't like him, and she goes, bring those trucks over here.
	You know, I've always wanted to ask you this, because we talked about Tampon Tim quite a bit, you know, during the election, because you know him so well.
	Do you realize that all through that campaign, nobody raised all the times he went to China?
	I mean, to me, as someone who has been on this China thing for 10 years, and I think China has more effectively than any country infiltrated us, to have the facts that you had, even the right-wing press.
	Yeah, there is anything.
	That's such a thing.
	The guy went to China 30 times.
	He was trained in China.
	As far as I can tell, although nobody bothered to look, at least look, his business was funded by China because it was to bring people to China.
	He brought 50 kids to China per year.
	Unless you're an idiot, it obviously was for the purpose of brainwashing.
	100%.
	They're not going to let them go to China to teach the kids that China is a horrible, murderous dictatorship that takes away all your rights.
	And that was the Minnesota media.
	They just kept it on the download.
	Do you know before the 2020 election, now I was going to run for governor against him, right?
	And that was just the rumor that flew.
	He spent...
	Hundreds of thousands of dollars.
	And he sent out flyers to every single household in Minnesota saying, do you want this guy?
	You got a picture of me.
	Do you want this Trump supporter running for governor in our state?
	It was this slam on me before I even announced I was running.
	Of course, then they stole the election.
	I said I wouldn't run to be a dog catcher until we secure it.
	But you know, Mike, it's a...
	It's like nobody cares about the country.
	We would have had a guy who...
	What I would say about him was this.
	Unless he answers these questions, Tampon.
	I had to call him Tampon.
	Unless you answer these questions, Tampon, I have a right to assume that you're a communist.
	Because there are just too many of them and you're not answering.
	So when somebody has a lot of questions they don't answer.
	Unless it's a criminal case, you're allowed to draw the inference that the answer is a bad answer.
	So if my question to him is, if you went there 30 times and you taught 30 times, wasn't it approved by the CCP, what you taught?
	We wouldn't answer that question, right?
	So I have to assume...
	Yeah, it was.
	It was dictated by the CCP. If they gave you all this money, that must have been happening with you as a nice little communist.
	That's right.
	And you know when I say, I was just asked this question today, who stole the 2020 election?
	You know, who was behind it all?
	I say four people.
	The CCP, the Uniparty, the Deep State, and the Globalist.
	Those four.
	And it's not always just Democrats, you know.
	Well, they had them.
	You always have to look.
	I was taught at investigating crimes.
	You begin with the people who had the biggest motive.
	So if somebody stole the election, who's going to steal it?
	Maybe even more than Biden, China had the biggest motive.
	Because Trump really broke up the beautiful thing they had going for them.
	Which is everybody trusted them.
	It was like Russia was bad, but they were good.
	Even our Republican, because it came from Nixon, even our Republican presidents treated them.
	And, you know, unfortunately, Bush, the first one, very nice man.
	He was the ambassador to China.
	So he was completely brainwashed by the whole Chinese thing.
	It was like, yeah, and also the belief that...
	If we do enough business there, we'll turn them into capitalists.
	Right.
	Instead, they do enough business here and turn us into communists.
	That's what you're doing.
	You're exactly right.
	And I always look to, too, when you look at that, when you talk about finding crime in the last four years, for me, it's deviation in behavior that doesn't make sense.
	And when you have politicians making decisions...
	That don't help either people.
	I'm talking people now.
	I don't care what party they're in.
	If it doesn't help the people, it's a very hidden agenda, and it's a very evil agenda.
	And I'll tell you, there were so many states, Mayor, that I went to, which I expected to walk right in.
	It's a Republican, you know, whether it be a Republican Attorney General or a Republican Secretary of State.
	You get there, and you get this complete shutout, and you're going, Why?
	You know, why aren't you looking into this?
	You know, why?
	So there's, you know, I could name a few, Brad Rasenberger, Robin Voss, John Merrill, you know, the governor of Arizona, the governor of Georgia, they're working for this.
	Yeah, yeah, the governor of Georgia, Brian Kemp.
	I mean, these people had hidden agendas, and it's all going to come out because they're not on our team.
	They're not, it's not even common sense.
	It's like nonsensical things like, It doesn't make sense.
	Like I always said, if I was the marketer, if I was the marketer for, you know what I'd done with Biden?
	If I was his marketer...
	I would have said, hey, you guys, we stole that election, everybody.
	Let's not do anything.
	Let's not do anything stupid to ruin the country.
	And then they'll start thinking socialism is just like they think in college, just socializing with your buddy with a cup of coffee.
	They'll think it's good.
	Then we'll hammer them.
	Instead, they hit the ground running.
	They cut the pipeline, opened up the borders, and they never believed that we would have the miracle we had.
	On the 2024 election.
	Yeah.
	They just believed that they had it all, so let's just...
	They really, I mean, they really, you're absolutely right.
	They went overboard.
	They went overboard.
	Evil is greedy.
	Evil is greedy, and that's our biggest...
	Biden and Obama did some of that.
	Yeah.
	I mean, Clinton and Obama did something like that.
	Clinton, the first two years, you know, tried universal Hillary care and a whole bunch of left-wing stuff that didn't work, and then he wasn't going to win.
	Right.
	So he did the triangulation with Dick Morris.
	He took all the Republicans.
	I'm going to end welfare, as you know it.
	I'm going to do the crime bill.
	I'm going to get tough on the Soviet Union.
	I'm going to build up the military.
	So by the time he went to the election, because he's totally unprincipled, he'd do anything he had to do to win.
	He had all our issues.
	And then he went back left again.
	And then Obama did the same thing.
	He went left, not as bad as Biden.
	And I think if we had a better candidate than Romney, we would have beaten him.
	I think Romney could have won if he had some kind of a personality.
	I think Trump would have won in 12, just as much as in 16. I think people were looking for somebody that made sense and had a certain amount of charisma.
	Well, I think now, you know, what's happened now is...
	This is a party of common sense.
	And if we get our elections secure with paper ballots hand counted, I think it's a 70-30 country.
	I really do.
	I think people are pouring into this bucket of common sense.
	And like I used to tell the president, I go, back in the day when he kept getting indictments, he goes, Mike, what are they thinking out there?
	And I go, sir, everybody's pouring into this bucket from both sides.
	I said, you keep getting indicted, you're gonna have more votes than voters like Pennsylvania.
	Well, you know, I think...
	There's some truth to that.
	The people seen through the garbage, they've seen through that.
	The 34-0, that deal was on one of the charges, the 34-0, remember that?
	I told him, I said, sir, you've got to pray for either 34-0 and 4 against you, because no one's going to believe either one.
	34-0, they got greedy.
	Now, if I sat there and I'm going, you guys, let's make it look good like we even looked at it.
	Let's make it 29 innocent, 5 guilty.
	Then we all thought, at least they looked at it, right?
	They didn't even deliberate enough time to come out.
	34-0, they're all 34 cows.
	Nobody believed it.
	Even people on the left didn't believe it.
	And he said to me, he goes, yep, you're right.
	It got washed away in the news because it was just...
	It's garbage.
	34-0.
	Even the Nazis were guilty.
	Maybe innocent of not jaywalking.
	You know what I mean?
	Give me a break.
	I think it actually did happen, Mike.
	I think that they were slated to indict him in Arizona after Georgia.
	And I believe that the Democrats nationally, because Biden was orchestrating all those, I think they said, Jesus, if we indict him there, he'll get elected by acclamation.
	Right, right.
	And one more indictment and this thing's over.
	That's right.
	I think, you know, the first couple of times they thought it would work.
	But then after that, it just kept building.
	Then they realized, my God, every time we indict him, he goes up 10 points.
	Because people were going into this bucket.
	And all Arizona would have been is a carbon copy of Georgia.
	Georgia, 100%.
	They had to quit doing that.
	You know, I'm still indicted in that case.
	And Trump is still indicted in the Georgia case.
	Right, right.
	I am too.
	Wow.
	And I was really unhappy that I got indicted in Arizona by myself because my one consolation in going to jail, if I go to jail with them, they'll treat them nice in jail.
	So I can go back.
	You know, when I went into the Georgia, I went the day before he did to get fingerprinted and photographed sort of as a test.
	Did you practice your photo too?
	As a test.
	No, I wasn't as good.
	I just did a regular photo.
	In Arizona, I smiled.
	They don't even use it.
	So I walk in, and I think they just did this on purpose.
	They had us walk through the whole prison.
	We should have come in over here, like over here.
	We came in over here.
	And then we had to go through two prison lockups.
	And all the prisoners were standing there waiting for us.
	And I thought, oh my God.
	Every time, I mean, I've been a prosecutor most of my life.
	And even when I've been a defense lawyer to go visit my clients, they boo me.
	They know somebody I put in jail.
	I walked past the first one.
	I said, oh, this is going to be terrible.
	I get a standing ovation.
	Wow.
	And they're yelling out all kinds of horrible things about Fannie.
	Yeah.
	I mean, really.
	Isn't that something?
	Then they go to the second group.
	People see through it.
	They applaud again.
	Then I do this thing.
	I come out, and they applaud again, and they applaud again.
	So I told the president that.
	And it's the same thing for him.
	They came in, and of course, they were about 60% black, 40% white.
	And not the group you would think would be voting for.
	They didn't like her.
	I remember the president, he said something about, you know, I want to get his mug shot.
	I said, I could give you advice on that.
	You know, I've had quite a few.
	He goes, you haven't?
	I go, you read my book.
	Come on.
	You know, now that they take my pictures everywhere, they'll go through the, wherever I'm at, and they'll go, do you mind if I get a picture?
	I said, absolutely.
	I said, in the old days, the only one that wanted my picture were the cops.
	So, Mike, give us a little, now that it's a couple months, right?
	So how's it going?
	How do you see it going?
	I mean, you put your life into this.
	I think I'm very happy.
	I just met with the president a couple weeks ago.
	And I think with the election platform, so to get to paper ballots and count, I think the dream is going to come true.
	132 countries have banned the computers in the elections.
	And over 100 have banned early voting, and we've got a good plan from the bottom up, and he's doing stuff from the top down.
	He keeps saying it.
	We're going to go to paper ballots and count it, and he wants to make it same-day voting and get our elections secure.
	I really don't want to see this, and I told him, I don't want to see all the greatness that's going to happen the next four years.
	We're just pouring in, being vain.
	We can't go back, you know.
	And I believe it all starts with our elections.
	Do you think that because he's not on the ballot, they'll feel a little more—if we don't do something, they'll feel a little more— Comfortable cheating again?
	I think if we don't get rid of this, get to paper ballots and counted by the summer of 26, we're going to be in trouble.
	And that's about 18 months out where I feel we got to get rid of them.
	I think what goes on in the primaries, I think that's where you see a lot of these rhino uniparty Republicans.
	That's where it's taken.
	We know that from our research.
	I'm very happy right now.
	There's a big piece Sessions put in a big thing before Congress.
	That's in there now.
	We got to get the word out about that.
	And that's to get to our secure elections.
	And then I have teams on the ground with Cause of America in every single county in the country.
	We have successes everywhere right now.
	It was actually used in a lot of the last election in a lot of counties.
	And so I think there's going to be a lot of...
	Do Democrats uniformly oppose this?
	No.
	Like everything else?
	No, this is where...
	This is right now.
	We're finding...
	It's a lot easier now to get them.
	The Democrats, you remember, they were on board, Amy Klobuchar and Kamala Harris in the movie Kill Chain in 2018. They all wanted the machines gone.
	They all wanted paper ballots.
	And, of course, they all went silent in 2020. But now that our great president's in, we're finding on the ground that it's easier to work together now, and we're getting it done.
	Because if you were to pass a law, It would apply to all the congressional elections, all the Senate elections.
	Oh, yeah, it's got it, yeah.
	But it would have to get like 60 votes probably in the Senate, right?
	Yeah, I'm not sure about that part.
	I know if everybody checks out right now, I have it posted on my ex, Real Mike Lindell.
	But that's his whole bill.
	Or you can go to electioncrimebureau.com or mlyndellplan.com.
	We have a poster there, and it shows all the things.
	Well, how many you have to get, how many books.
	The bill would provide that every election, every congressional election, House Senate in America has some paper ballots.
	Paper balance, yeah.
	And it's even got the security.
	The paper, too, is...
	It's more secure than money that we developed.
	And here's, I want to tell you this part.
	With cameras now, people say, oh, that's going back in time like the Flintstones.
	No, now that we have cameras, and you're seeing your number there, and you're running this through it.
	Now, let's say you have to, you just rewind the cameras.
	It's not that hard.
	Right, right.
	You know, it's beautiful.
	Well, unless you doctored the tape like they did in Georgia.
	Let's cut out the tape.
	You take out all the situations where they're triple counting the ballot, and then the judge looks at it and says, oh, that's okay.
	Yeah.
	Isn't that something?
	It's amazing what they get away with.
	No, it really is.
	I'm very confident, though, that we're going to get there.
	For me, it's been one attack after another, so I've been spending so much time being distracted.
	I was just held in contempt with one of my lawsuits, Smartmatic.
	I'm held in contempt, of course.
	Congratulations.
	That's all over the news.
	So my lawyers are going, you know, we've got to get this done.
	We've already given them all the information.
	I have nothing to hide.
	And I told my lawyer, we've got to go on offense, offense.
	I'm an offense guy.
	Go on offense.
	But it's all a distraction.
	That's like this Keith Ellison thing now with my recovery network.
	They don't want me focusing on pay-per-balance-hand counter, but I'm telling you, it's too late to close the gate.
	The cows are out of the barn.
	Everyone's out there doing it.
	Maybe there was a time where if they would have got rid of my voice, maybe we wouldn't have had that, but it's too late now.
	Everybody knows what would happen in 2020 and 2022 and 2023, and even this last election.
	There were four senators.
	Anyone watching on the left?
	Right, go ahead and do a story on it.
	Four centers and nine congressmen that I know were stolen.
	What a difference that would make.
	Yeah, you darn right it would.
	That'd be huge.
	What a difference that would make.
	Oh my God, we'd be very close to having a 60. Right, absolutely.
	And I know Mike Johnson takes a lot of heat, but I wouldn't want to be him with that kind of majority.
	No, man, that's right.
	Get it fast!
	And then you got this guy and that guy and this guy, you know, and they're all...
	And I know the ones from New York, they're all worried about state and local taxes and the deduction of state and local taxes, and everybody else doesn't want it, and they're not going to get re-elected.
	I mean, it's really impossible.
	If you have, like, a 10-vote margin, you can figure out, well, I'll take care of his problems, and I can't take care of his, but I'll do that next time.
	And that's how the great speakers and majority leaders would keep you happy.
	But now, they've got to...
	Everybody's got to get together and be happy on something that hits them in very different ways.
	It's very hard to do.
	Absolutely.
	I figured that they would do that.
	I told the president, I said, You know, just like if someone would have gave us China Virus 2.0, we wouldn't have fell for all that stuff again.
	It would have all been different.
	Everyone wouldn't have been wearing masks.
	He wouldn't have been doing all these nonsensical things.
	If they would have stole this election, it would have been the same way.
	If they'd have stole it, you would have had the whole country going, we want an auditor.
	We want to open up these machines.
	If you had a bank here, you know, at the bank, if you had a problem, everything would have been opened up.
	And I think they said, well, you know what?
	It is like the president called too big to rig, you know, where it was too big.
	That was true.
	And they had to go, you know what?
	We can't do, remember the 65, 65, 65, 83 million, 65?
	How are you going to do it again?
	You know, someone asked, I was heard today, someone was telling me that they asked, well, was this election rigged?
	And they should have said yes, because where are those 15 million votes that I took from the Democrats?
	So tell us before we have to finish, how's Lindell TV doing?
	It's doing great.
	I'm on every day, but I don't know.
	I can't see on the other side.
	It's doing great, everybody.
	We've got, you know, we got in the afternoon with the White House, we've got our Galkera there, and then we have now on Capitol Hill, we've got Allison, and it's three hours, and then I have my show.
	It's on there.
	And so we're getting back to, I want to get my show done every day now.
	That's really good therapy, isn't it?
	Yeah, absolutely.
	Good therapy to do.
	I say that my show stays being psychiatric bills.
	Absolutely.
	We want to get our voice bigger and bigger and bigger and bigger.
	And so we don't have, I told the president this too, one of the things we have now that we didn't have then is where everybody was canceled on January 7th and 8th of 21. 1.2 million Americans.
	The president lost his 100 million on Twitter.
	Jack Dorsey's corrupt Twitter.
	Right.
	And I said, now we have all these platforms that have opened up.
	Getter, Gab, TrueSocial, our vocal social, which is right connected to Lindell TV. But having our voice now where we have, you know, people aren't just watching Fox where you get no news.
	You know, they're like a weather channel that won't tell you about hurricanes or tornadoes.
	Right.
	But then you have all the left, and here you have Lindell TV. You tell it like it is, and our voice is getting bigger and bigger every day.
	And don't forget, everybody, we're publicly traded at FSBN. That's soon to be Mike Lindell Media Corp.
	But right now, I want everybody to get involved, and that's what we need.
	And we have stuff that's, if people don't hear the news, if you don't hear the good things going on or the bad things going on, You know, it's like a tree falls in a forest.
	Nobody's there to hear it really falls.
	And the Democrats used to say there isn't even a forest.
	Yeah, yeah, yeah.
	I mean, it's awful.
	But I mean, I think someone who analyzes this from England told me after the 2024 election that there is now, and although it's going to get bigger, there's now a sufficiently large group like us doing, let's say, independent broadcasting.
	Right.
	That we pretty much match them.
	Yeah.
	And he said if the hard drive had come out in 2024, everybody would have known about it.
	Everybody would have.
	Because of the additional online and podcasting and video casting and all that, that we're at about 50%.
	And he thinks for the next election we'll be ahead.
	And we will be.
	And this is what I've said.
	I've said it in many of my speeches, everybody.
	On January 7th and 8th, when the 1.2 million Americans were deplatformed on Vimeo, Facebook, Twitter at that time, YouTube, all of it, our voice, and I compare this, I said, when I was growing up and when we had the black and white TVs, you turn them off, and they all went down to a little tiny dot, and you turn it back on, they all came back to life.
	That was our voice.
	And like Ronald Reagan said, you know, we're like a light on the tilt.
	If that light goes out here, it goes out everywhere.
	Right, right, right.
	And that light was almost ours.
	Of course, of course.
	What manifested out of that was all these media platforms, like you say, were up to 50%.
	Right.
	You know, our voice just expanded, and we're going to continue to expand until we have the bigger voice.
	Yeah, and you know, I know this is probably self-serving, but...
	We're more interesting than they are.
	We actually talk about things.
	Yeah, that's right.
	They go on and they go great.
	We have fun doing it.
	We have fun doing it.
	I think we've driven some of them crazy.
	They now say the weirdest damn things.
	I mean, look at Whoopi Goldberg is blowing up.
	Right.
	Oh, yeah.
	Give me a couple of the other.
	Maddow is going back to one day a week.
	Oh, really?
	He's going back to one day a week.
	It's unreal.
	Keith Olbermann's been having a few meltdowns, if you remember that guy.
	Keith Olbermann.
	Is he still around?
	He's still around, and he is melting down.
	Where is he on?
	You know, I think he's kind of on his own thing, which, you know, out of everything I can criticize him for, I'm not going to criticize him for that.
	He was a terrible sport.
	Kind of doing his own thing, right?
	He was a terrible sport.
	Terrible.
	The worst.
	And he got awoken, so they threw him off.
	Well, they threw him off ESPN first.
	I think he was making fun of kids or something.
	He used to go to Yankee games.
	I used to sit next to the Yankee dugout, and he sat over here, and he would look at me like I was some kind of a...
	A couple times I tried to say hello to him, and I think he thought he was going to get a disease if he said hello to me.
	He really is a strange bird.
	Oh, my God.
	Well, we get big enough left to have Jimmy Kimmel on our show.
	We'll put him in some kind of a claw machine.
	Yeah, we got to play that.
	We got to play that clip.
	We're going to find that.
	Mike in the claw machine.
	We were just talking about that tonight.
	I was on his show twice, but he bashes me almost...
	For a while, there was almost every night they had a fake mic on there.
	He would just take turns bashing me and the president.
	I don't know how people can watch it.
	They're not even funny.
	No, no.
	A couple of nights...
	No, a couple of weeks ago, we were...
	You remember, Ted, we were watching Johnny Carson?
	Oh, those were the days.
	Those were the days.
	You couldn't stop laughing.
	No, you could.
	And even his delivery.
	He had a wonderful way.
	If a joke didn't work, he'd make a funny face and then you'd laugh.
	The joke was terrible.
	And then you'd go, oh, boy.
	Yeah, even his reaction.
	Oh, boy.
	And everybody would start laughing.
	Right, yeah.
	And he did do some political.
	But it was very, very even-handed.
	You couldn't tell if he was a Democrat or a Republican.
	No, you could not.
	And the jokes that he made were tasteful.
	They were not, he's a monster, he's Hitler.
	Right, right.
	He'd make fun of something they said wrong or something they said that was strange or someplace they went.
	But no bitterness to it.
	It was pure humor.
	Well, we all know the mayor has both been featured on Saturday Night Live, and a number of actors have played you.
	My question is to Mike, have you yet risen to Saturday Night Live level?
	At least eight times.
	At least eight times.
	I think I have seen it, you're right.
	Yeah, at least eight times.
	And the funny thing was, actually, it was...
	I don't know how many were after the 2020 election.
	They were mocking me before that.
	They were on the Amazon.
	They used to go after you on the Amazon.
	Wow.
	I thought that was good for you.
	I'm sure it was.
	I actually made the biggest one for me so far, I think, was Showtime.
	It was called My Cartoon Present.
	On Season 2, Episode 2, once they got me on, they kept me on the whole time.
	A lot of the stuff came true that they had.
	I mean, it was me talking in the Rose Garden and you had all these...
	We come across the border, me and my son and my nephew, and I think it was 2017 or something.
	We go, look, they made a cartoon about me.
	And it was me speaking in the Rose Garden.
	And I'm sitting there, and the president goes, here's Mike.
	I got my good friend, Mike Lindell.
	He showed up or whatever.
	So you could see Jim Acoska and everybody out in the Rose Garden.
	And I do this speech, but it was just like the one that I actually did two years later in real life.
	And I thought it was funny because they go, Then the president, he kind of pushed me out of the way.
	He goes, okay, any questions?
	And they all raised their hand.
	They go, any questions not about crack?
	And all their hands come down.
	Me being an extra crack, right?
	In the show, in the show.
	That was in the show.
	Yeah, that was in the show.
	Of course.
	But the weird thing was, two years later, he actually had me at the Rose Garden, and I get up there and speak, and I... Jim Acosta, they're all in the same spot.
	You know what I'm talking about?
	I'm up there talking about Jesus and the Bible, and their heads blew up for a week.
	Yeah, their heads blew up for a week.
	So he knows this, but here's an example of what he's saying.
	These things drive me crazy.
	So last weekend, there was a big slaughter in Syria, and they killed maybe a thousand Christians.
	A few independent papers reported.
	Christian papers, even some of the Israeli papers reported.
	New York Times ignores it.
	Everybody here ignores it.
	Even the Post ignores it.
	And the Wall Street Journal covers it.
	They don't say Christians were killed.
	They call it sectarian killing.
	The new terrorist groups that took over Syria, which is Sunni, although...
	Although Assad was a maniac, he wasn't as anti-Christian as this group because his tribe, the Alwites, have a very long relationship with the Christians because they live in the same part of Syria.
	So he didn't persecute the Christians as much.
	If a Christian was against him, he'd kill them, but he wouldn't just go after the Christians.
	So the terrorist group that's taken over, which is Sunni, Attached with Saudi Arabia as opposed to Iran.
	That's good for us.
	They're not working with Iran.
	But they really hate Christians.
	So in the first, in one weekend, they killed a thousand, it wasn't a thousand, it was a thousand people, 750 were Christians, and the other were Alawites.
	And they said, well, they were all supporters of Assad.
	Now, the Christians weren't even allowed to be supportive of Assad.
	They were neutral.
	They had to be neutral.
	And they intend to wipe out all the Christians in Syria.
	And then the Wall Street Journal says, oh, there was a very unfortunate group of sectarian killers.
	You can't even tell it was Christians who were being killed.
	And who writes for the Washington Post?
	The Wall Street Journal.
	Even the Wall Street Journal.
	What is wrong with these journalists?
	And everything that has gone wrong is now because of tariffs.
	Almost none of these tariffs have even gone into a...
	He just said he's going to do it.
	So the higher prices are all because of the tariffs, except now gas has gone down.
	And gas is now lower than it was when Trump came into office.
	The inflation rate has now gone down.
	And what was the other one that we had?
	And what?
	I see no one.
	The same tariffs.
	They don't bother to write, well, gee, maybe we're wrong.
	And then...
	The tariffs with Mexico were going to kill us.
	So Scheinbaum, the president of Mexico, organizes a big festival for about four or five days ago, right outside of Mexico City in the festival ground.
	There's going to be a protest against Trump.
	It turns into a protest for Trump because they agreed on the tariff.
	And the biggest labor leader in Mexico, who's a pure communist, gets up and says, This is wonderful.
	This is the best year of cooperation we've ever had.
	And of course, two weeks earlier, they're predicting we're going to be at war with them.
	We're going to be at war.
	Do you know, back in the first term with the president, when he got into with Canada, Trudeau actually put a tariff specifically on my pillow.
	So I was really big in Canada.
	I was huge in Canada.
	And I was on their shopping channel, all over Rogers TV, all the newspapers.
	And all the box stores.
	And anyway, so he puts this tariff on my pillow.
	It's like, it was a big tariff, like 35%.
	It would be impossible.
	Yeah, yeah, yeah.
	So I get ahold of him in his office.
	I didn't talk to him directly.
	We get in this battle.
	What they wanted, they said, okay, if you build a plant in Canada, a factory in Canada, then there'd be no tariffs.
	Well, I had a distribution thing up there, and I stood up.
	I said, you're not going to blackmail me like that.
	Well, it got to be two weeks before.
	The shopping channel that I was going on, it was just, you know, a couple million dollar a day.
	It was huge.
	And for my employees and stuff, I said, so I waited until the last possible day to be able to say, yes, okay, we'll do it.
	But it has to be here.
	They want it in Windsor.
	I said, no, do it where my plant was outside of Ottawa or wherever it was.
	And anyway, this is kind of a good story.
	Well, now I had to get the materials, and I had to have my workers go up there, just like in Armageddon.
	I needed my workers to train them how to use the machine.
	Right.
	So we have to fly into Canada, and we're taking this plane full of people.
	I don't even know if they had passports.
	I'm not kidding.
	Probably fresh out of jail.
	Anyway, he goes, he says, he says, So he just cleared it.
	Oh, you're with this group.
	So he did do that.
	They just stamped their stuff.
	And the trucks that rolled through of all the pillow, you know, the patented foam and stuff, they just rolled it through.
	They made it up their time.
	We made the pillows.
	But I know what that could do.
	But he specifically picked on my pillow back then, you know, because of my relation with the president.
	But when you did...
	Do they keep their end of the deal?
	Yeah, they kept their end of the deal.
	So it wasn't bad.
	They kept their end of the deal.
	And we had a distribution center anyway, but it actually turned out better because we could ship them from up there then too.
	Do we put a tariff on their pillows or on pillows that come into the United States from overseas?
	I don't know.
	I don't know.
	I doubt it.
	I doubt it.
	No.
	And see, I was never tariffed because they're 100% made in the USA. Yeah.
	So this was a—they were only—they would tariff if you had—if it wasn't made all here, then Canada was tariffing them.
	But he tariffed my pill.
	I was the first one.
	I told him, no, mine are 100% made here.
	He goes, I don't care.
	Now you're going to make it in Canada.
	I said, okay.
	So, it wasn't a bad thing, you know.
	I agree with reciprocal tariffs, right?
	Oh, yeah.
	If they put a 20% tariff on my pencils, I should be able to put a 20% tariff on the events.
	No, and people keep calling me.
	They're going, you know, your friend's going to ruin everything, the stock market and everything.
	I'm going, you know what?
	This will all manifest out to a beautiful thing.
	Once it's a fair playing field, you know.
	No, on a fair playing field, given our...
	We'll just do very, very well.
	Yeah, absolutely.
	I mean, if you think about it, China is doing well because of everything they have that came from us.
	We essentially completely organized the Chinese economy because of the con job that they did on Nixon and Kissinger and then everybody after them, including some of our Republicans who thought...
	If we just make them capitalist enough, they'll come over to our side, not realizing they were conning us from the very beginning.
	Much more shrewd than the Russians.
	So do you think Canada will be the 51st state?
	No.
	I think Greenland might.
	I would like to run the campaign.
	You and I should go run the campaign in Greenland and make sure they don't cheat.
	There are only 55,000 residents of Greenland.
	They can easily be convinced.
	Of course they can.
	You know, somebody made a recommendation, I don't know if this would be a bribe, that it would only cost us like $250 million to buy all their votes.
	By saying, if you become an American...
	We'll give you a grant of $250,000.
	Yeah, I think all it would take is the president flying up there and having a rally.
	That's a small rally for him to say, okay, let's vote on him.
	I'll raise your hands.
	The polls now show that a very small percentage believe it.
	But the very first poll that was taken, something like 60% of the 45,000 or 55,000 were in favor of it.
	Now I think they're either lying about the polls or they're trying to brainwash the people.
	But here's what they do want.
	They all want to be free of Denmark.
	And by over 50%, they want a stronger relationship with the United States.
	What they really like is for us to protect them, but be free.
	So there's a deal that can be made there by somebody like Trump.
	Absolutely.
	I think so.
	I think Panama Canal.
	One of these days we're going to wake up, he's going to take it.
	Unless those Chinese get the hell out of there, he's going to take it.
	And under the treaty, he has every right to do it.
	The treaty says that we have the right to intervene militarily to save the neutrality of the canal.
	We get to decide that by ourselves.
	We don't have to tell Panama.
	If the neutrality of the...
	If they're controlling two locks, the neutrality is...
	Right.
	He must have checked into that.
	When he said it to me the first time, I'm going, really?
	We're just going to take it?
	No, I didn't know that.
	When he said it, I thought, oh my God, what is he doing?
	And then I went and read about it.
	There were two treaties.
	One gave him the canal, but the other gave us the right to militarily interfere if, in our judgment, the neutrality of the canal is...
	They own it.
	They continue to own it.
	We don't take over ownership.
	But in essence, we run on the military.
	Right, right.
	Forever, if we want.
	And we should.
	But why should we have China?
	I mean, you remember the Bay of Pigs.
	I mean, we almost had a nuclear war because they're going to put Russians in Cuba.
	Well, now we got the Chinese Communists in the Panama Canal.
	This is ridiculous.
	Right.
	Well, we're going to take a short break.
	And when we come back, we'll wrap up and give you an idea of what we're going to do tomorrow night.
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	This is Rudy Giuliani back with you, and you see Mike Lindell here with me.
	So tomorrow, maybe we'll get an answer from Putin about the agreement, right?
	And we'll see if we can maybe make some progress in Israel and get that straightened out.
	Also, is the government going to close down or not?
	Sounds like Schumer wants to close it.
	And we don't have the votes to stop it because we'd have to get 60 in the Senate.
	So if we don't get probably seven Democrats to join us, they close the government down.
	I know people get, I don't want to sound flippant about it, but I've gone through several government shutdowns.
	I think the last one for him was, gosh, it was about 2018 or 20, it was at Christmas time.
	Yeah, I remember that.
	And he had to stay at the White House.
	Yeah, I remember that.
	And I stayed with him.
	Oh, you did?
	I felt sorry for him.
	I felt like he was going to be an orphan in the White House.
	Yeah, I do remember that.
	We had the greatest time.
	First of all, we just watched football.
	And he walked around, he walked around, and he had somebody come in every day and take whoever was there on a tour with him.
	So we got to learn all the historic places.
	So we found places where General Grant used to keep some of his secrets.
	Keeps up his secret records.
	And his friend McKinley, where McKinley used to write.
	I mean, for each one of these presidents, there's somebody you can bring in.
	And they would take them all over the White House.
	This is where Theodore Roosevelt liked to sit.
	He just loved it.
	So I would say to him, it's terrible.
	He said, I'm like a kid.
	This is fabulous.
	Imagine being locked up in a White House.
	Which shows you how enthusiastic he is about America, about the job.
	Absolutely.
	I mean, and I... When I seen him just a week or a week and a half ago, he goes, look at this, Mike.
	He showed me all the pictures.
	Yeah, yeah, yeah.
	To the Oval Office there.
	It reminds me of Ronald Reagan, who loved being president.
	Yeah, yeah.
	I think the people who make the best presidents love America.
	Right.
	You know, and I think you sure as hell, some of them...
	Some of them hated America.
	And of course, Biden didn't even know it was America.
	Well, thank you very much for joining us.
	And we need you to pray for Israel.
	And we need you to pray for the people in Ukraine who are being killed now for nothing just because they're delaying these two guys.
	And of course, the people of Iran who we want to be free and the people of America and everybody else.
	And of course.
	We'll see you tomorrow night.
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	America was created a time of great turmoil, tremendous disagreements, anger, hatred.
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	It was Thomas Paine's Common Sense, written in 1776, one of the first American bestsellers in which Thomas Paine explained, by rational principles, the reason why these small colonies felt the necessity to separate from the Kingdom of Great Britain and the King of England.
	He explained their inherent desire for liberty, for freedom, Freedom of religion.
	Freedom of speech.
	The ability to select the people who govern them.
	And he explained it in ways that were understandable to all the people.
	Not just the elite.
	Because the desire for freedom is universal.
	The desire for freedom adheres in the human mind and it is part of the human soul.
	This is exactly the time we should consult our history.
	Look at What we've done in the past.
	And see if we can't use it to help us now.
	We understand that our founders created the greatest country in the history of the world.
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