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Jan. 4, 2025 - Rudy Giuliani
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America's Mayor Live (575): Mike Johnson Re-Elected Speaker of the House on First Ballot
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Good evening.
This is Rudy Giuliani with America's Mayor live.
Live from New York City once again.
Right near where the ball came down on Times Square.
Well, President Trump...
Has been acting like he's the president since the day he got elected, in part, I guess, because there's a vacuum.
There really is no president.
His comments with regard to the tragedy in New Orleans, the attack in New Orleans, the Islamic extremist attack in New Orleans are much more relevant and much more on point than whatever you call the president that's in office for a few more days.
But today, he got Speaker Johnson through, and he got him through by interrupting his golf game, which tells me, as a friend of his for so many years, he must have been really interested in getting Johnson elected.
He doesn't interrupt his golf game for too many things.
Sometimes, maybe order a bombing or something.
Remember when he did that with Chairman Zee?
Sitting right next to him, he got up, ordered the bombing in Syria, came back, and then they told the chairman, he just ordered a bombing.
And G was very, very surprised that Trump was so calm and treated it like, well, it's just a day's work.
Not a bad memory to leave in the guy's head, you know, just in case he wants to mess around with us.
Trump, I think I would say this, I mean, in part was true of both Bush presidencies, but more so than that, Trump is the closest to Ronald Reagan, if not his equal in terms Trump is the closest to Ronald Reagan, if not his equal in terms of And concern of those who might wish us ill.
In fact, in the case of Ronald Reagan, there are people now who lived in Russia, you know, during communism and since left and since converted to being full-time capitalists and Democrats with a small d or Republicans with a small r.
And they'll tell you that when they were growing up in the Soviet Union or the countries dominated by the Soviet Union, Many, many of them thought that Ronald Reagan was crazy and that he was desperately desiring to bomb them.
Of course, he wasn't.
Just the opposite.
But there is a lot of psychology to protecting human beings.
And there's an awful lot of psychology, the wrong kind, in making it very, very dangerous for them.
So, Speaker Johnson won by a 218 to 215 vote.
At one point, there were three Republicans voting against him and six who abstained.
And as far as I can tell, the vote was...
He won on the first ballot, but he won on the first ballot when people got a chance to change their votes.
So it came down to, I think, two congressmen That they could get.
The six came back and decided to vote for them.
And Trump got off the golf course and called them and Trump won for Johnson or Johnson won 218, 215. That's 214 Democrats and I think one Republican, Massey.
Why?
I don't know.
Then, many of the group that I guess wanted to vote against him but for Trump made it clear to him in a rather nasty letter to Johnson saying they really weren't voting for him.
They were voting the way Trump wanted them to vote and they expect him to reduce federal spending Reduce the debt.
Continue the Trump tax cuts.
Re-establish the military.
A couple of other things, too, that he has to do.
And if he doesn't, they're going to vote their conscience or whatever they're going to do.
I don't know.
If you're going to vote for him...
If you're going to vote for him because President Trump is convinced that this is the best way to get his agenda through, then support him.
Because by undercutting him, you're undercutting Trump.
Unless you think you know better than Trump what Trump's agenda should be.
And that's a terrible mistake.
You're now making the same mistake that the Democrats make and that the Democrats made about Ronald Reagan, too.
And George Bush, particularly George W. Bush.
This idea that Reagan was dumb and Bush was dumb and Trump is dumb.
Did you know that Bush had better grades at Yale than Gore?
Of course, nobody would know that, right?
And Ronald Reagan was probably one of the best writers that we ever had in the White House.
All you have to do is read his love letters to his wife and you can find out that although he had enormously gifted speechwriters, he was a gifted speechwriter himself.
And a man who can write like that sure as hell isn't dumb.
And a man who can think like that is brilliant.
Ronald Reagan is one of only three presidents, right?
Four, maybe, who can say, I delivered...
People from tyranny.
And I brought them into liberty.
Millions of people.
So, of course, there was Abraham Lincoln, the Civil War.
Then there was Franklin Roosevelt in the war in Europe.
Washington, I was going to say four.
I was going to say Washington, but Washington is the president.
And then, of course, Ronald Reagan with all of Eastern Europe and the Soviet bloc countries.
And I always think of Poland, right?
Before Ronald Reagan, if you went to Poland on a Sunday, you better go to church very, very quietly underground.
And when they wanted to crack down, you were in deep trouble.
And after Ronald Reagan, the Polish people could do what they seemed the most dedicated to doing around the world, and that is to practice their religion.
Because they had freedom.
So when you are a person who...
Has created and reversed tyranny and let people live in liberty.
Millions of people.
You're a great president and a great leader.
Here's three of them.
Reagan's one of them and Trump may turn out to be another one.
I don't know that I'm worried about Johnson being able to push it through because he is He's a very resilient guy.
I've come to really respect him.
And I know that the right-wingers go crazy and nuts, and I'm a right-winger myself, maybe more than a lot of them.
But I also, you know, had a practical job, or a number of them.
Not just to have one single congressman who can say whatever the hell you want to say for your district.
And of course, I have to say that I modeled myself completely as a mayor on Ronald Reagan.
My 80% friend is not my 20% enemy.
A half a loaf is better than no loaf at all.
Meaning, if you get half the agenda, maybe you can come back and get another quarter of it next time.
And then another quarter.
Many of the changes we make in this country are done incrementally.
You make one step, turns out to look good, and then it really rolls.
I did that as mayor.
The first year, I made a tax cut that was so low, I don't even remember what it was.
I mean, it was like, I think it was $27 million in a $30 billion budget.
And it was really the hotel occupancy tax.
And I'm sitting here in a hotel.
Yeah.
This hotel actually is one of the biggest and gained by it the most.
Hotels all love me because I did this.
I have no idea how I got it passed.
I got it passed the state legislation and the city council.
And the city council was 45 Republicans, 45 Democrats and six Republicans.
I got it passed because of Peter Valone, who was a great speaker and a patriot and a guy who would deal on the merits and a Democrat.
But I used that.
To eventually deliver more tax cuts than New York City could ever possibly have imagined and a budget with a surplus.
I used it because I showed, after a year or two, that lower taxes can produce more revenue because they can create more economic activity that you're charging.
In other words, if you do $100 worth of business on a 20% tax, Put a million dollars worth of business on a 10% tax, you make a lot more money, right?
Well, the hotels within a year were doubling what we were getting with double the hotel occupancy tax.
And I used that to get the sales tax reduced, to get other taxes removed, to get sales tax holidays.
The only time in which New York really focused on lowering taxes.
Even my successor, Michael Bloomberg, who was a good mayor.
Gosh, I wish we had him back.
He wasn't really a conservative Republican if he was a Republican at all.
So I understand that, but I understand you've got to compromise.
In order to get that, I had to give them things.
You can be very, very principled and still compromise if you're not compromising your basic principles.
If you're compromising like you want tax reductions, however you live in a world in which not everybody agrees, so get the maximum you can get and then come back for more as you demonstrate that your way is the better way and then figure out some ways in which you can accommodate them.
That's what they call a democracy.
Just because they are and have become like tyrants, the Democrats, we better not decide you can only have it one way or not have a country left.
Maybe we should give them an example and they'll go back to doing that too.
I mean, they were all...
Democrats may have had a lot of the wrong ideas and some good ideas, But when I was in politics, most of the time, they were willing to compromise.
They were willing to meet you.
I mean, they always like to meet you less than halfway, but they're willing to meet you halfway.
They're not anymore.
I agree.
I think the switch took place.
You're going to find this very, very strange.
I think the switch took place sometime after the 9-11 attacks.
Bush became like his father.
Who got up to like 80 or 90% approval and then got defeated eventually because of the first Iraq war.
Because of the 9-11 attack and because of his very, very strong reaction to it after years of appeasing terrorists and tyrants and you name it, Bush hit him back so hard it made their heads spin.
In fact, Ben Laden went off into a cave and, you know, didn't come out until we killed him.
But he was essentially neutered right away.
He never expected that.
Bush became very popular.
And they wanted the presidency back.
And they decided to go after Bush.
After doing No Child Left Behind with Kennedy, that was the last real compromise.
After that, they were doing everything they could, particularly with their press, to make Bush into a really, really bad guy.
They made a second term really tough.
And after having voted with him, they turned on him.
And then Obama got elected.
He took him way over to the left and way over to being extraordinarily radical and not compromising.
And then when Trump came in, they did the, well, we don't have to go through it, but they did the demonization, not just the Trump, but of all of us.
I mean, we're all deplorables, and we're all, you know, clinging to our guns and God.
I understand what they're saying about guns.
I don't agree with them.
I never understood why Obama condemned us for clinging to God.
Did you?
Did you figure it out?
Yeah, you have figured it out, right?
I also figured out why he would never let you say Islamic terrorist.
Like, I bet you he's not going to describe this guy that went into the people in New Orleans and killed, still goes back and forth between 14 and 15 and injured 30 or more.
I'd like to see Obama say, this was an Islamic extremist attack.
Now, pretty hard not to say, since the guy had an ISIS flag, and he did four videos in the hours leading up to it, explaining that he was doing it in the name of ISIS. So we're going to take a short break, and when we come back, we're just going to look into that.
Exactly what was it?
What kind of fear is there that this can happen again and what should we do in the future to protect ourselves against it?
And anything we do will be better than what Biden and Garland and all these people did because they were spending their time basically going after Catholic terrorists who like Latin masses.
And white supremacists who dominate the country and kill people left and right.
And of course, Garland set up a special task force for people who complain about killing babies.
I think the agenda will be quite different and therefore will be safer.
We'll be back very shortly.
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t2t.org that's t the number 2t.org t2t.org please this is Rudy Giuliani back with America's Mayor live and live from New York uh we were talking about we were talking about the um The attack in New Orleans and
the whole issue of what was the purpose of the attack?
Well, it's not really very hidden, is it?
When Jabbar left, And eventually when the FBI got into his, I guess it was a trailer that he has in Houston, Texas, or outside of Houston, Texas, there was a Koran open.
And there was an indication of a passage that he was focusing on.
And the passage is verse 9, 111. And it reads in translation as follows.
This is what he had open in the Quran.
And he's been a Muslim for quite some time, his brother says.
He converted some time ago.
They grew up as Christians, but whatever some time ago means, he became a Muslim.
According to him, he became a member of ISIS last summer.
Last summer.
It reads as follows.
They fight in Allah's cause and slay and are slain.
A promise binding.
They fight in Allah's cause and slay and are slain.
A promise binding.
And of course that then reads into the reward for jihadists in He left Houston with the intent of committing murder.
That was his goal and that's what he did.
And he was doing it about as clearly as we've ever found anyone doing it in the name of In the name of Muslim...
In the name of Muslim...
What will we say?
Muslim...
Muslim cause.
The Islamic cause.
He was trying to spread it as much as he could.
So he left.
I have a timeline here.
On Monday...
He rented a Ford F-150 Lightning pickup, and he rented it from the site Turo.
I think we all know by now that's the same site that was used by the bomber in Las Vegas.
One of two connections between them that don't necessarily connect them, but leave you questioning, right?
They went to the same website for the car, a rather common website.
And number two, they were in Afghanistan at the same time.
We're sure of that.
There's a possible third one.
They were on the same military base in the United States.
Now that one has only appeared in one or two publications.
I'd be careful until we get all these things together, because a lot of things come out and then they change, and I think we can be sure of the first two.
So on Tuesday in the morning, remember Tuesday was New Year's Eve.
He left early and headed north.
And he told his neighbors he was moving to New Orleans to get a better job.
One neighbor offered to help him move, and he declined the help.
At 10.02 p.m.
on Tuesday, Jabbar unloads his truck outside an Airbnb rental in New Orleans in the St. Rock neighborhood.
And according to someone watching, there's a ring camera there, and there should be a video.
But then at 12.25 a.m., now on Wednesday, there's footage from another camera of him leaving the house.
So they put him in the house, we think, with a video.
He leaves the house definitely with a video.
Between 1 and 2 a.m.
on Wednesday, surveillance video shows Jabbar planting IEDs along Bourbon Street, a block and a half and three blocks away from where he crashed into the car and had to shoot at.
It's quite apparent that he was planning to continue that route and got interrupted by hitting a number of people and killing them and injuring them, but also smashing into a car.
So there was more of this that at least he alone was planning.
And according to the timeline and what the FBI and the police have said, There are videos showing that the two IEDs that were a block and a half and three blocks ahead were put there by him.
Remember, we raised that as a question first night.
That it's quite obvious that he had a much longer route in mind and that that did suggest that possibly other people were involved because somebody could have planted it there for him.
And that was when the FBI and the police were telling us there were three or was it four men, Ted?
I don't remember.
Three men and a woman?
Three men and a woman who were seen doing suspicious things.
Some of them may have even said planting things.
Now it turns out that there were people looking at those boxes.
That's what they say.
And they say patriots who were looking at those boxes.
Maybe they didn't know what was in them.
I mean, I'm sure if they knew what was in them, they weren't going to look at them.
One of the two IEDs, for sure, the second one, was laced with With nails, which is reminiscent of what the Palestinians used to do 20 years ago in Israel, particularly when they attacked parties and gatherings for young people.
Then at 3.15, he drives around the police barricade Going down Canal, turns around into Bourbon Street.
We all know about the ballads now missing that the police commissioner didn't know about.
And before he gets in one block, halfway through the other block, he hits a car and a shootout starts at this point with the police.
In the course of that shootout, he wounds two police officers, kills a few people, and he also killed a few people before he got there for a total of 14 or 15. 14, right?
14, the 15 number included him.
I see.
I see.
Okay.
That was the difference, why they go back and forth.
Okay.
Now, as he was driving to Houston, he was videoing himself.
Explaining what he was going to do.
At 1.29am, he did a video in which he said that he originally planned to kill his family, but that the media coverage would not focus on the war between the believers and the non-believers, which is what he wanted to do.
He also announced in those videos Leading up to his terrorist attack that he joined ISIS. And I'm sorry, what he said was not this summer, but before this summer.
So I don't think there's any dispute that this is terrorist and that whether he's a lone wolf, which is what the FBI is insisting they've established, or there are people that were helping him He was doing it in the name of Islam as part of an ISIS recruit.
And as I said, he and Matthew Live Ellsberger, I think is the way you pronounce that, from Colorado Springs, who drove the cyber vehicle Into the entrance to the Trump Hotel in Las Vegas and blew up everything
but the building.
It was, in fact, as Musk said, and the police too, it was a rather It was the worst vehicle you could use.
Well, we don't know what he wanted to accomplish, right?
If you were going to accomplish taking the building down or hurting the building or hurting people inside the building, and he was an expert on munitions and had a whole little makeshift, not a factory, what was it called?
Little workshop.
He must have on purpose known that he was just going to do an explosion outside and not do damage to the building.
I think you can come to that conclusion given what's been said about his background and his knowledge of munitions and arms and bombs and explosions.
He was, as far as we can tell, up until a short while ago, An admirer of President Trump.
But there's also contrary indications.
So that I think is going to have to be looked at more carefully.
And what jumps out at you right away is Trump and Musk, right?
So he's got Musk's automobile and he's got Trump's building.
But then he kills himself.
Rob is with us tonight, and he says he kills himself.
That's why I think this one is inscrutable.
It's very weird.
And since the guy's gone, and the people who are talking about him so far haven't really opened up about his being out of his mind, whereas with regard to Jabbar, people have opened up that he made a big switch.
First, the conversion to Islam, then his life, two failed marriages, allegations of abuse.
He claimed to have very little or no money, although he had a $120,000 a year job that he stayed with pretty close to the end.
But at least we know, in his case, we know the motive.
We also know something that we have to protect against.
What we know is ISIS is back doing what they did in 2010, doing what they did after maybe our worst president, if not our second worst president.
Obama wrote them off as the JV. And then we got into a massive war with the JV that had to be eventually won by Trump.
That's the war in which Obama set the red lines for the use of chemical weapons against Assad and never did.
I think that's the war that convinced Putin that he should go into Ukraine.
Which he did, you know, in 2014, that he should go into Ukraine and grab as much territory as he could, so long as this appeasing jerk or communist was president of the United States.
Remember, Putin attacked three times under the last four presidents.
Bush, Obama, Biden, He missed this guy right here, whose name is Trump, and he's going to be the one right here.
So the reality is that ISIS, way back in 2010 and during the Obama administration, was doing a lot of recruiting of lone wolves.
That's, I think, when we came up with that description, because they would use...
Sometimes intermediaries, more often the internet, to radicalize people and to help train them or motivate them.
And something happened to Jabbar that radicalized him.
If his brother is correct, he joined the Islamic religion way back when he was still A businessman.
I think many...
We showed you last night the video of him doing a sales pitch for his real estate business.
Looked like a fine guy.
I might have done business with him.
You might have.
I don't know.
Seemed perfectly fine.
By three years later, the guy's a radical.
And apparently back then he was Islamic.
So somehow he went from being Islamic, but in the army...
A honorable discharge sergeant.
The criminal problems he's had, one was theft, and the other was just traffic problems.
So we don't know the nature of the theft, but it doesn't suggest that he's some kind of a criminal.
It suggests he got in trouble once.
This is not one where we can say, as we have in some of these, like the Boston situation with the Tanaev brothers, people should have been on the lookout for him.
There weren't plenty of signals here that this guy was going to do something like this.
And at this point, except for the connections with Tanaev, The murderer in, or attempted murderer, if that's what he was, in Las Vegas.
Suggested connections.
There's no hard facts.
However, it is hard to pull this off all by yourself.
This is not an easy thing to do all by yourself.
So there's sort of a split in the FBI. When you listen to the leaks, It sounds like FBI headquarters and the people running the investigation are saying much too definitively, there's no conspiracy, there's a single act.
The reason I say too affirmatively, they couldn't possibly have investigated enough yet to close that off.
Proving a negative is extremely difficult.
They say they've conducted hundreds of interviews.
If they did, if they've actually conducted hundreds of interviews, that'd be real fast and not very good.
Now, there also are leaks from the New Orleans police From the New Orleans FBI and from the Houston FBI that this idea that he was a lone wolf is not as definitive as the headquarters wants to make it.
The disturbing part of this is the FBI seems to be more interested in spinning than investigating.
And you have to begin with the fact that the first FBI agent came out and definitively said this wasn't a terrorist attack.
So we begin distrusting, right?
I mean, any jackass would have looked at this the moment it was over and said, even if you don't know it's an Islamic terrorist, this is a terrorist attack.
The guy turns around into Bourbon Street and drives into a group of people and kills, I think originally they thought 10, injures 30 or 40 people, immediately is seen with an ISIS flag in the back of his car, Of course it's a terrorist incident.
The reason I did point this out last night, but I think this is important.
The real problem here is that the FBI agent who did that, I do not think is a bad person or a bad FBI agent.
She's spouting the company line.
That's what they're taught to say.
Why?
It's like they want to make believe there isn't terrorism.
They even have a boss now who, for the last 10 months, has been telling us there'd be a terrorist attack.
Maybe they didn't get the memo, you know?
Now, that's a little annoying and upsetting and disgraceful because he tells us there are lots of terrorists in this country, much more than ever before.
We don't know who they are.
He sort of shies away when they ask him, well, isn't that because the border is open?
Of course it is.
But the real question is, why the hell wasn't he doing something about it three years ago?
Now, this guy did not come from across the border.
Original report was the car came from Mexico.
Now, they say he rented it from Turo.
Now, That could be the usual mistaken facts that emerge when you have a terrorist incident like this.
Everybody gets it wrong at first.
Or there could be something to that.
What makes you so suspicious and what makes it difficult nowadays is the FBI lies so much.
And they seem to have an agenda.
So we're going to have to see what emerges here.
At this point, I would put it this way.
It appears that the attack in New Orleans...
Well, it was a terrorist attack.
It was absolutely and without any doubt done in the name of ISIS. And to promote radical Islam, even...
I mean, my goodness...
It's as clear as what Hunter Biden tells you, you know, for 30 years I gave half my income to my father.
What does he have to do to tell you he's given him bribe money?
Spell it out?
Well, he did.
So when you look at the ISIS flag and you listen to what he said on the videos and you see the Koran open to a...
To a passage about the glories of killing for Allah.
We don't have to go any further on that one.
Terrorist attack done in the name of spreading ISIS and to hurt the United States.
Was he a lone wolf or not?
Right now, there's nothing that proves that he was anything beyond a single person, but there are circumstantial facts that create avenues for investigation.
And it should be pursued with an open mind, not with a conclusion that in a day and a half or two days, we've proved definitively that nobody else was involved.
Could turn out to be very embarrassing if there is somebody else involved.
Plus, how many more of these is ISIS planning?
They sure as heck have an unlimited number of people here, thanks to Biden, because we have no idea who came in.
When we come back, we'll give you a little outline of how this has built up and what we should do about it.
Okay, so how are we now?
What?
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Most people don't use this quality.
We deal with small farmers because they like to know who we're dealing with.
They give us the highest quality, all organic, non-GMO. You should know all Arabica beans.
No robusto.
All Arabica.
They're gonna go into the roaster and it'll get roasted for about 20 minutes or so.
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Welcome back to America's Mayor Live, and it's live from the city of New York, right near Times Square, right in Times Square. right near Times Square, right in Times Square.
So ISIS has been, in the last year or so, Particularly active, which probably accounts for some of Director Ray's waking up, although I did attribute it to, and you know I believe he's a scoundrel, so I attribute it to protecting his backside.
He knew that things like this were going to happen, whether it's a lone wolf American that's been radicalized, or somebody that comes over the border, or he knows there are He knows there are all kinds of terrorists here that even if the FBI were the old FBI, they couldn't possibly keep track of.
So in 2024, there were at least 10 arrests by the FBI in the United States for ISIS-related activities.
In Idaho, Alexander Scott, who was focusing on local churches, In Oklahoma City, Nasser Ahmed Tahiti, who was organizing an attack on election day to make ISIS's presence known at that point.
And then in Arizona, a guy named Jallo, I think it's actually Marvin Jallo.
Hard to think of a Marvin involved in this.
Marvin Jallo, who was going to attack a Pride festival.
And remember, extremist Islam is...
Homicidal with regard to gays and lesbians, meaning the penalty for it is stoning death.
That's true about Hamas, by the way.
In the Palestinian Authority, it's an offense in which you go to jail in the non, in the Fatah-controlled Palestinian Authority.
But in In Gaza, in Hamas land, it's death.
Which is amazing when you see gay and lesbian groups protesting for Hamas.
In other words, for the group that wants to kill them.
And the ideology, because you can't really call it a religion, the warped ideology of what's expressed In the Quran.
How often have I told you, in explaining to you, only because I want us to be vigilant, that what these people are doing is supported by the Quran.
It's also not supported by the Quran.
Which is what creates the confusion.
Muhammad taught everyone to love Jews and Christians.
Or Muhammad taught people to kill Jews and Christians.
Or Muhammad did kill Jews and Christians.
Depends on when.
What stage of his life.
Was it the early Muhammad who was still convinced he could persuade by preaching the way Jesus did?
Or was it the latter, Muhammad, who was a warrior who used tactics like mass murder in order to spread his religion?
So it depends on which Muhammad you're talking about.
So part of why we don't win this war and why we're still fighting it, gosh, this goes back to the 70s, right?
It's because we can't face it.
It would be like we carried on for 50 years about whether Hitler was really intent on taking us over.
And Chamberlain stayed in charge for that long.
Imagine how they would have developed.
We have for 50 years had a whole group in this country that fools itself about what it's facing.
That is not to say that anywhere near every Muslim or every Islamic person is an extremist.
They're not.
The majority are not.
But it is to say it's more than just a few people.
It's a big movement.
And they can find justification in their holy book.
The others will read it out, but they can find justification in their holy book.
And we really have to be working with other Muslims to give them a little more of a backbone in defeating this group.
I mean, it was somewhat necessary with the mafia, where some Italians would get very angry if you used the word mafia.
I remember when Governor Cuomo, the father of Andrew and Chris Cuomo, At a time when I was first beginning my investigation of the mafia, said there is no mafia.
Now, Mario Cuomo was a good man, and he wasn't part of the mafia.
I'm not suggesting that.
But he was extremely defensive.
And when you're defensive, the group flourishes.
And it takes on a psychological power that makes it difficult to defeat, if not impossible to defeat.
Well, how often have I told you that New York Supreme Court judges, particularly in Manhattan, are political, political, political, are political, political, political, political, political, They do not make decisions based on the law.
They make decisions based on Democrat politics because they are controlled by the Democrat bosses who run the counties.
Bend this way.
On and off, but mostly on since Boss Tweet.
Well, Judge Mershon, whose daughter has made a fortune in a conflict of interest that's so big they should both be in jail.
I mean, Mershon gave Trump a trial that is a scandal.
The judges in New York should pick him up and put him in New Jersey.
Sorry, Rob.
They should get rid of him.
He's giving them all a bad name.
You know, when they talk about a cop, there's a crooked cop, and he ruins it for all the other cops.
But what about, when there's a crooked judge, what does he do?
Now, let me tell you, he's going to sentence him.
He's going to sentence Trump before he is inaugurated as President of the United States.
He's sending signals like he's going to give a non-jail sentence.
How about throwing the case out?
There's no case.
Will you stop it?
The American people figured out that there's no case.
They wouldn't have voted for him if they thought there was a case.
Regular people who have something called two things, honesty and common sense, said this is a damn frame-up.
Now, why do they so easily say that, Judge Mershon?
Because the indictment doesn't charge a crime.
Or it doesn't charge a crime in any way that we've ever charged crimes in 800 or 900 years of Anglo-American criminal law.
The indictment says that Donald Trump caused a false business entry to be made.
That's a misdemeanor barred by the statute of limitations.
In order to carry out a second crime, a felony, the indictment gives you no indication of what that felony is.
I do not know how you indict someone and don't put them on notice of what they're accused of.
I don't understand how that isn't a violation of due process.
I don't understand how that's not a violation of due process in neon lights.
Violation of due process, violation of due process, violation of due process.
Just think about this.
I'm Trump's lawyer, and I say, okay, let's get our defense together now.
What are we charged with?
Furthering of felony.
Oh, let's see, there are about 2,000 of those.
Shall we prepare a defense for all 2,000?
Well, of course that should be dismissed.
At a minimum, it should be dismissed to re-plead.
But since it was such a ridiculous thing in the first place, and even the false entry crime is one that's hardly ever charged against a businessman.
This was done by somebody else.
And it's questionable as to whether it was a false entry or not.
I mean, it's exactly the same entry that Hillary Clinton used when she paid $1.1 million to frame Trump.
She said it was legal fees.
Well, it was legal fees or legal payment.
He paid it to his lawyer.
You would say, oh, gee, he should have been more...
He should have been more...
Whoever decided to call it that should have been more specific.
But you can't say that it's false.
So forget that, though.
That was time-barred.
They never bothered to tell him what felony.
We go through a ridiculous trial in which they let in evidence of every other thing he ever allegedly did wrong in his life, which forever has been barred in American and English criminal trials, prior bad acts, Except under certain exceptions that don't apply here, are never allowed in criminal trials.
I could tell you about the Six Brides case if you want, that created the exception.
But I won't, because I don't think you want a law lecture.
But in any event, we go through a whole trial without telling them what this felony is.
They let in all this evidence of other things that he allegedly did wrong to prejudice the jury.
I don't know that he made a single ruling in Trump's favor.
At the conclusion of the government case, he should have thrown it out.
Because now, not only didn't they put him on notice of what the felony is, they didn't prove one.
They didn't mention one or suggest.
They wait until the judge is charged to the jury.
And the judge picks five felonies that it could be.
And the judge says, you don't have to be unanimous on any one of those felonies.
If the five add up to 12 people, he's guilty.
That is absurd!
That's crazy!
It's not just illegal, it's crazy!
It's nuts!
They're showing you that they are completely corrupt.
And they did it under Biden's direction.
Why the hell do you think the number three guy in Biden's Justice Department came to try the case?
Because they don't want Bragg?
You ever see Bragg in court?
No!
He's not in court because he's a jackass as well as a...
Crooked guy.
Anybody who gets elected on Soros' money and lets criminals out the way he does is a disgrace.
He's a menace.
Only here because Hochul is useless.
We got a governor who's useless.
And now, come on, you tried your game.
You did your four indictments in an election year.
Every single one of them was a piece of crap.
The American people, you got your conviction that you wanted to convict him as a felon so that Biden or Harris could run around saying, felon, felon, felon, felon, felon.
They did, and they lost.
And he won.
And the American people had the common sense that, unfortunately, a brainwashed Manhattan jury didn't have the same common sense.
I mean, if they had common sense, we wouldn't be in the condition that we're in.
I know we blame the crooked politicians, but who the hell put them there?
Who put Adams there?
Who put Hochul there?
Who puts Keith Wright where he is in the Democratic Party so that he can make appointments of jackass judges and crooked judges?
Who has done 150 years of Democratic dictatorship in New York?
The people in New York.
They don't even vote for Abraham Lincoln.
I don't know.
You want to have a little revolution and start thinking for yourself?
Yeah.
Maybe we can make this place what I was able to make it.
And why was I able to make it?
Because I could tell the Democratic Party to go to hell.
And in fact, you want to look for periods of reform.
You want to look for periods of revitalization in New York.
You want to look for periods where we really accomplished a lot in New York.
You got to look for Republican mayors or independent mayors.
The vast majority of mayors are either Democratic crooks or they sit by and let it happen.
And that is what's going on with Judge Mershon.
And the other one, the Angamoron case, I think is on its way to getting reversed by the appellate division.
This one will be reversed too.
I don't see the appellate division and the New York Court of Appeals wanting New York labeled with this.
This will be in the history books is probably, I don't know if his trial I don't know if his trial, his civil trial with Angomoron or this trial was more unfair.
Well, of course, this was a criminal trial.
This was more unfair.
Let's put it that way.
Well, it's been very, very tough on Ted and me in filling our time because when Biden and Harris were running, we at least always had a 15-minute segment.
The dopey, dumb, idiotic, stupid things they said that day.
Either him thinking that he saw a dead person or thinking that his uncle and father were still alive.
Shaking hands with no one.
Thinking that a dead congresswoman was in the audience.
Thinking he was in Colombia when he was in Cambodia.
Thinking that the president of...
He was talking to the president of Colombia when he was talking to the president of Cambodia.
Now, they do look different.
And...
Oh, what the hell else did he do?
Tripping going up the stairs.
People have told me that happens.
And, you know, everybody trips.
But going up the stairs, I have not seen that happen.
But in any event, and the other part of it that was amazing, if you watch that, nobody came to help him.
I think if just any person tripped going up the stairs, somebody would come and help him.
Look at how the minute Trump was shot, they all jumped on him, right?
The president, they move like...
I mean, I've seen them do it with Trump.
I've seen them do it with Reagan.
I mean, they...
But they just let him, including, I don't know, was the first stepmother there?
When she walks with him now on the beach, it's as if she tries to pretend she's not with him.
Like, she's ahead, and he's back there, and she usually has him carrying the chair.
And the poor guy looks like he's going to fall down any minute.
So we don't have that anymore.
We got a few...
Well, Harris gave us a great one at the opening of Congress.
She messed up the Pledge of Allegiance.
Now, they've been saying this about, they've been saying, now that she's not running, we can raise this question.
They've been saying this about Pelosi, right, when she tripped.
And I've been hearing this for some time, and I'm always the last person to hear this stuff, that Pelosi drinks too much.
And that's why sometimes she sounds incoherent.
I thought it was old age, actually, to tell you the truth.
It does appear to be drunk in this, though.
Yeah, yeah, I don't know.
I have several friends who insisted on this.
She even smirks.
But they say that she definitely, Harris, definitely gets drunk.
Oh.
Including that time that she was with your governor, Ted Whitless.
And they were sitting in a bar.
Join me in pledging allegiance to our flag.
That was the one that sold me on the flag.
Join me in pledging allegiance to our flag.
Because she sounded drunk in that.
That was an over here, wasn't it?
Or was that an ad?
It was an over here.
That was an over here.
Do we have it?
Yeah.
We haven't done these in a while, so we're a little out of practice.
Yeah, okay.
Okay.
All right.
Join me in pledging allegiance to our flag.
Who's going to do this?
How are we going to fill this time?
You want me to fill it with a monologue, right?
Join me in pledging allegiance to our flag.
Pledge allegiance to the United States of America.
And America's Mayor Live, both.
This is a Friday, so I should tell you we'll be back.
Very graciously, Mike Lindell gave everyone at Frank a speech.
The holiday's off.
Christmas until this full week.
Everybody's coming back on Monday.
And I hope fresh and ready to cover the most interesting 100 days, I think 10 days, maybe in American history.
I think it's noteworthy that every Democrat leader, Biden, Harris, and a whole handful of others, have been profoundly corrupt.
Which is being aired out now.
There's literally evidence coming forward to show it.
The whole damn party is just despicable.
It's just despicable.
And that's why I think the American people sit drunk into office.
How do you think I feel?
I'm the one who brought it out.
Yeah.
And they're torturing me.
Well, that's why they are, actually.
I mean, I'm the one who brought it out originally back in 2017, 2018. Absolutely.
Absolutely.
Somebody had an old discussion that I had with Maria Bartiromo.
They played it on X. Oh, I saw that.
Yeah, and Maria basically is saying, you know, why did I want to do this?
And I said, I didn't want to do it.
I didn't go looking for it.
They came to me.
They came to me because...
They have been turned away by the FBI. They've been turned away by the U.S. attorney in the Southern District of New York.
And they were Ukrainians that were outraged at the massive bribe.
And, you know, this is the part we don't cover.
Their president was involved in the bribe, too, who was up for re-election.
He got a lot more money than Biden.
Poroshenko.
We basically We engage in a crime at the highest level of our two governments.
And think of how much of a cover-up is involved here.
That's exactly what they tried to impeach.
Well, they impeached him for, and he was acquitted.
They impeached Trump for asking the Ukrainian government to consider He didn't pressure them.
He didn't tell them they're not going to get money.
The issue of their money hadn't even come up yet.
He said, would you look at this?
Because there are a lot of people that think that this was illegal, what happened with Hunter Biden and Joe Biden and Poroshenko.
That was perfectly justified.
If you had the hard drive, the hard drive would have shown you that it is perfectly justified.
And the hard drive was suppressed.
And covered up.
And then we spent 17 months being accused of being Russian pawns.
And I got sued by everybody in the world.
I was trying to describe today.
I was trying to describe today because I had to do a hearing.
I was trying to describe today how many cases I would have to handle at once.
I can't remember exactly how many times I've been sued now over this.
Maybe I think at various times at 8 or 10 or 12. Really, it's about three or four active at one time.
When you get some things wrong, it's almost impossible to deal with them.
Your whole life is devoted to Answering interrogatories, finding lawyers.
Then lawyers walk out on you because they're scared.
I can't tell you how many lawyers I've had to sit with and hold their hand, not just for me, but for Trump or for many, many of his associates where I tried to help find them lawyers.
I just had a recent situation in which nobody wanted to represent because they're afraid of the judge.
It's not the one in New York.
Yeah.
And the more it gets talked about, the more it gets legitimized.
Yeah, and they think you're making it up.
Yeah.
I mean, that's what kills me about the Bar Association.
They disbar me for being a zealous advocate.
That's what they disbarred me for.
I was fighting for my client.
I believe in him.
And I turned out to be right.
Right.
I turned out to be right about The things that have been proven so far.
We're right about Russian collusion.
Turned out to be right about the hard drive.
It turned out to be right about the conversation with Zelensky.
Everything the media does not talk about.
Turned out to be right on January 6th.
They sued me over January 6th, and the judge dismissed the case.
Right.
How come they don't talk about that?
An Obama judge dismissed the case.
Yeah.
I was right about that, that I didn't make any statements that incited violence.
The judge said I didn't.
The judge said I really don't like him, but he didn't do it.
It's so annoying.
Well, hopefully, that's the part that's going to be delicate for Trump and for the Trump administration.
He has to hold into account.
At the same time, he can't look, and he can't be vindictive.
So I say you have to be very, very judicious and careful about the cases you bring.
They have to be very strong.
They have to be the kinds of cases where people will legitimately say, you just have to bring it.
You have to bring it because if you don't, it's going to continue forever.
And it would have to be very, very...
It can't be the little people.
It's got to be the people at the top.
Even if the little people went along, It wouldn't look right if you had like massive, like what they did for January 6th.
They sort of killed themselves on January 6th.
The day after January 6th, up until maybe three months later, it appeared to a lot of people, not to me because I know them so well, and also because from the first night I knew what was going on, because they brought me the tape.
Which you can find in podcast number five.
They brought me the tape of the Ashley Babbitt murder.
When Biden gave that award to Cheney, I swear I almost jumped into the television.
She sat on that committee.
They all sat on that committee.
And there's one real crime that was definitely committed, and that was the out-and-out, cold-blooded murder of Ashley Babbitt, in which they spent every single trick they could think of to cover it up for that cop.
They've even paid him money.
Promoted him.
This guy shouldn't be promoted.
The guy was losing his gun before that.
He's a guy who lied that day.
After he shoots Babbitt, he calls up to try to cover himself and says, everybody's shooting here.
Everybody's shooting here.
Everybody's shooting here.
Nobody was shooting at all.
He was saying that because he was trying to prepare like an excuse for himself.
Well, hopefully that's going to get looked at by Kash Patel.
But that's why we have got to stay together.
And I don't know, and we'll conclude with this, Ted.
I don't know what we take away from the Johnson situation today.
Is the party in the House united enough to get the Trump agenda through?
Yes, I think so.
I mean, we did it by...
We did it by three votes.
We're going to be missing two of those very shortly for a while.
So if they were gone, we would have done it by one vote.
Yeah, I think November's election, President Trump winning in what we can consider the modern age and electoral landslide.
So he has this national mandate to lead.
I think a lot of members of Congress, even ones that previously were more comfortable Is he going to have to do what he did today?
Get off the golf course and call up?
He might have to do that a few times, but we're talking about one of the greatest negotiators of our time.
It was Mace who got him.
To come off the golf course.
She called them and said, you've got to talk to these two congressmen.
If you don't talk to them, they're going to continue like there were still three holdouts.
It may have been four of the two holdouts, but I think it was President Trump, right, who understands negotiating, understands the power of persuasion and calling folks.
And you know how much he loves his golf.
Yeah, you know.
He's got a good case.
Meaning he doesn't have to twist arms.
He's got a good case.
If you want me to put my agenda through, we've got to vote together because in fact, in a little while, it'll be one vote.
We only have this thing by one vote.
I can't get you By executive action, I can do a lot at the border.
That you can probably do a lot about.
But I can't reform immigration unless I can keep the House together.
The Senate has got a margin.
Well, particularly if they do a lot of this with reconciliation.
It doesn't have to get 60. Yeah.
The map in 26, I think the Senate map is tougher for us.
And you know Democrats are chomping at the bit to take back the House in two years.
So President Trump, we don't have a lot of time.
We've got to get moving on this agenda.
He's got one term, four years, a speaker fight and what that entails.
And we all know how the media is going to.
Well, thank God we don't have it from the beginning.
You know, this could come up again later.
I mean, these people are so volatile, you never know what's going to happen.
But right now, we don't have that.
We also have, I know he's turning out to be one of the best politicians in the history of this country.
And by politician, I don't mean, I mean, political leader, negotiator, inside negotiator.
So let's see.
Let's see what happens.
And I have a feeling, like you said, midterm elections always go against...
I think we're playing by new rules now.
I think so.
There's a possibility.
I think we're playing by new rules now.
Yeah, I think a lot of the people that made a mistake in the last election thought they were playing by the old rules.
You and I knew we were playing by new rules.
Yeah, we saw it coming.
And look, two of the greatest political leaders on the Of my era, our generation, Mayor Giuliani and President Trump.
Two New Yorkers.
Oh, I got to give him money again.
That's 20 bucks now.
Yeah, 20 bucks.
But really, you and the president go way back, your personal friends.
And when you started your relationship, it's almost like you were the politician.
You were the public official.
It took a month.
I mean, he's a much more potent force now than he was eight years ago.
He was pretty darn effective eight years ago.
But now he gets it, right?
You've got to get off the phone.
He probably understands Congress and the power that these individual members, you know, for better or for worse, have.
They're all right.
I've got to make a couple calls.
Who knows when he had to tell them, right?
Lucky he loves the telephone.
He could spend the whole day.
I was teasing when I said it must take a lot to get him off the golf course.
Like hell.
When he's playing golf normally, he's...
You're right.
We've been out there on the course.
Well, first of all, if he isn't talking to one of the people he's playing with and telling him a story or listening to his story, he's on the phone.
Yeah.
Is he...
Calls going up or is he taking in...
Both.
Both.
He starts thinking, oh, I got to call something.
Yeah.
So he's between the second and third hole.
Yeah.
Sorry, I got to go hit the...
Sometimes he'll put it down and go hit the ball and come back.
He has done that definitely with you.
Not only has he done it, he's put me on the phone.
Yeah.
Oh, say hello.
Say hello to your friend.
Live on the show.
Say hello to Steve Wynn.
Steve Wynn's on the phone.
Steve Wynn's on the phone.
You know Rudy.
Oh yeah, you want to talk to him here?
Randy Levine.
Randy.
Oh, that was funny.
I don't know if Randy knew he was live on X, but the president did.
And he put Randy on Utah Yankees baseball for a minute.
So when I came out of court today, we had this tremendous number of press there.
And I said, I can't comment on the case because I'm still a live witness.
I'm still in the middle of my testimony.
So ask me some other questions.
And first thing they asked me was Johnson, right?
Yeah, the speaker.
But then they asked me about Juan Soto.
Juan Soto, by the way.
They asked me about Soto.
A friend this morning asked about that.
Yeah.
They asked me about, how do I feel about Soto?
And I said, well, after I got over almost committing suicide.
Yeah, you made that joke.
And so Soto going from the Yankees to the Mets, but that's the topic.
I felt like I was mayor again.
Yeah.
But I had that whole group there.
I used to do a press conference every day.
Right, George?
Well, We are going to say goodbye for the weekend, unless something happens.
Let me know with us.
Tomorrow I'm going to do a nice event at...
Are we doing it at the golf course or Mar-a-Lago?
I don't know.
With Professor Eastman and General Flynn.
Who else?
I believe Peter Navarro.
Peter Navarro.
Jeff Clark.
Oh, all us criminals.
It's going to be a criminal.
It's going to be a criminal reunion.
That would be quite something.
Some breaking news to end the show.
Yep.
President Trump has named our friend Tammy Bruce as spokesperson for the State Department.
Perfect.
Perfect.
That's a great collection.
Yeah.
He's amazing.
Great.
We had a wonderful interview with her.
Wonderful interview with her.
Well, he's made some very, very good choices.
It's not hard to have made better choices in the group that's there right now, but they actually are even above that.
So, we'll be back again.
We'll be back 7 o'clock on Monday for the Rudy Giuliani show.
8 o'clock on X and all the rest at...
For America's Mayor Live.
And if anything comes up over the weekend, we'll break right in on X and tell you what's going on, okay?
Let's hope it remains peaceful and beautiful as we sort of end the holiday week.
So pray for the people of Israel.
Pray for the people of Ukraine.
Pray for the people of Iran, who we hope are going to be free sometime this year or next.
And let's pray for the people of the United States, of course.
And God bless America!
It's our purpose to bring to bear the principle of common sense and rational discussion to the issues of our day.
America was created at a time of great turmoil, tremendous disagreements, anger, hatred.
It was a book written in 1776 that guided much of the discipline of thinking That brought to us the discovery of our freedoms, of our God-given freedoms.
It was Thomas Paine's Common Sense, written in 1776, one of the first American bestsellers, in which Thomas Paine explained by rational principles the reason why these small colonies felt the necessity to separate From the Kingdom of Great Britain and the King of England.
He explained their inherent desire for liberty, for freedom, freedom of religion, freedom of speech, the ability to select the people who govern them.
And he explained it in ways that were understandable to all the people, not just the elite.
Because the desire for freedom is universal.
The desire for freedom adheres in the human mind and it is part of the human soul.
This is exactly the time we should consult our history.
Look at what we've done in the past and see if we can't use it to help us now.
We understand that our founders created the greatest country in the history of the world.
The greatest democracy, the freest country, a country that has taken more people out of poverty than any country ever.
All of us are so fortunate to be Americans.
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