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Sept. 20, 2024 - Rudy Giuliani
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The Rudy Giuliani Show | 20 September 2024
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This is Rudy Giuliani, and welcome to the Rudy Giuliani Show on Frank's Speech.
So, it's three days in a row now that Israel has hit Hezbollah very hard.
Harder than, frankly, they ever have before in this new, whatever we want to call it, breakout of violence starting on October seven or the day after, Hezbollah, operating really as a proxy for Iran, has been attacking northern Israel almost, well, almost every day with interruptions here and there since then.
The strangest thing, of course, is when the liars at the White House or Defense Department or State Department talk about it, they always say Hezbollah is attacking.
Well, of course it's Iran that's attacked.
It is exceedingly, uh, sincerely stupid, counterproductive, extraordinarily dangerous, uh, jeopardizes national security to not realize who you're fighting.
So, uh, if I'm boxing someone and he puts up a, um, a, uh, rubber doll And he hits me and I hit the rubber dog.
Pretty soon, I'm going to be beaten to a pulp, right?
Well, that's what's happening.
I mean, Iran has attacked us.
When you hear the Houthis have attacked in the Red Sea, whether it's American shipping, whether it's American facilities that they've hit in Lebanon and Syria and killed Americans, killed Americans with no impact on Harris, Biden, or their regime, their team, it's Iran that is supporting that and doing that.
For any number of reasons, we probably can't even list all the reasons.
They're weakening us, they're exposing our strategies.
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Well, welcome back, I think.
This is caused, I should tell you, by a power outage in Colorado.
It's been happening a lot lately, and it's attributed to the fact that whether you use recreational cannabis in Colorado or not, you use it because you smell it.
It's even affecting the mountains.
They have so much of it.
The first engineer was probably unable to really, probably pressed the wrong button because he's been smoking so much weed.
The second guy came along, he didn't know where he was.
Third guy came along, he's already had a deteriorated brain as the new studies point out about marijuana.
And then all of a sudden, this guy comes in singing Feliz Navidad and he screwed up all the switches and he turned out to be the governor.
This is what happens when you have recreational use of a controlled substance that can whack out your brain and give you depression, paranoid schizophrenia.
Car accidents, like bumper cars, right?
In Oregon.
I think bumper cars in Colorado.
I mean, and they don't know how to figure out When you've had too much cannabis and therefore you shouldn't drive.
When do you get to the level where it doesn't affect you?
Of course, the cannabis lovers say there's no such level.
Like hell there isn't.
Like hell there isn't.
And not only that, the last five years there's been one study after another, after another, that it does very, very pernicious damage to your brain.
The younger you are, the worse.
And nothing comparable to even alcohol.
Which they used to, oh look, alcohol.
No advertisement for alcohol, but on the other hand, all the modern science, if you believe in science, because the lefties don't believe in science unless it fits their lies.
So the reality is that marijuana is much more dangerous than anybody thought it was when they went on the Happy Stupid program to just legalize it.
And now you got people, you know, bouncing into each other in Colorado.
You got a state that has unbelievably ridiculous laws.
You got a governor who's an absolutely hilarious joke.
And you've got 40 or 50,000 illegal migrants in Denver, which is considerably more than the per capita amount in New York City, because your governor and the mayor there Who are big proponents of, you know, taking all the weed you can get, invited them there and they are making Denver even more dangerous than it was before.
And they're ruining Aurora.
That's what happens when you just blithely say, oh, let's, let's just smoke all the marijuana we can.
How about working and being accountable?
And how about, you know, working in the best, how about, Working in the best interest of the United States instead of China and elsewhere.
Well, the three days of attacks in Israel I mentioned, and today, again, it was aerial attacks.
Who knows if they have more of these surprising attacks of pagers, radios, walkie-talkies.
I said the death toll the first day was about 28, maybe 30.
Injury was big.
Injury was almost 3,000.
And heavily targeted at Hezbollah, including some of their leaders who they took out.
And some collateral damage.
Hey, it's war.
Of course there's going to be collateral damage.
But much less than usual.
Because this was a way of getting right at the people who had ordered it, who were the Hezbollah people.
But that didn't stop AOC from describing it as a war crime.
And Nasrallah is saying it was a declaration of war.
Now, what he's gonna do about the declaration of war, we'll see.
I mean, they took out another major commander today.
Now, again, please, and I'm going to have, after our break, I'm gonna have a guest on who is an expert on Iran, And you've seen him before on my show.
He's a great friend and he's a great, great patriot.
But this all goes back to Iran.
It is so silly to fall for Hezbollah, Hamas, Houthis, Lebanon.
This is all being directed by Iran for their purposes, whatever they are.
Whether it's short-term gains, long-term gains.
Are they planning an attack now?
Do they feel they're ready for an attack?
Are they trying to get further along in their nuclear program before they get into a major confrontation with Israel?
You know, in order to create the hegemon that they want, they've got to get rid of Israel.
Basically, they've pretty much created what they want in the northern part of the Middle East, right?
I just think of all the allies they have now that they didn't have when Trump left office.
I mean, they've become much tighter with China.
They've become much tighter with Russia.
They've become much more in control of Syria.
They've always had significant influence over Iraq.
They have a much better relationship with Turkey than ever before.
We can talk about a lot of that's a complete northern part of the Middle East.
Their problems are down south, right?
Saudi Arabia.
Perennial enemy.
Israel, the country they have vowed for 40 years to destroy, but obviously they can't be a friend.
Jordan is so far still on the other side.
And then the, let's call them the Saudi Arabian satellites, like Dubai, et cetera, are also opposed.
Qatar, We say in Italian, mezza mezza, a little on one side and a little on the other, and giving great protection to the Hamas and Hezbollah people, particularly the billionaires.
And also we now have this very troubling story of Iranian collusion in the 2024 election that goes back at least a year, of course covered up by the FBI for a year.
Don't know, I mean, I haven't had a chance to talk to President Trump about this subject, but I wonder if he was notified about it until it became public.
I'm going to guess he wasn't.
Their explanation from the FBI in defense of the regime that controls them was, oh, well, they haven't used the information.
Nobody ever asked that when we had the phony Russian collusion thing.
No one ever said, well, did Trump Use any of the information.
The question was, and the issue was, he got hacked, stolen information from Russia.
Problem with it was, he didn't.
It wasn't true.
Hillary paid to have that story made up by Steele.
We know she paid $1.1 million and she laundered it through her lawyer.
So we know that was absolutely untrue.
This is true.
But they don't care.
It's okay for Iran to give, to steal information from the Trump campaign and give it to the Biden-Harris campaign.
It's okay.
No problem at all.
The other one we spent $100 million on to try to nail them for it.
We had a special prosecutor who alone spent $40 million.
We investigated it before he became president, concluded, the FBI concluded it wasn't true.
Went ahead and investigated it all over again.
And then the Congress, the House impeached him, the Democratic-controlled House impeached him with, you know, geniuses like Shifty Shiv and Fang Fang Swalwell and Sleepy Little Fatso.
Oh, he's not fat anymore.
So, I don't know what's going to happen with this.
I can guarantee you they're not going to investigate it.
They're too busy trying to cover up as best they can the two assassination attempts of Donald Trump.
They haven't found out anything yet.
The guy from Secret Service appeared today, didn't tell us anything new.
It's only been two months since the first one.
Except he told us that the local authorities are lying.
The Secret Service is telling the truth.
Local authorities say that the Secret Service said they would take care of the structure, the building that was right there, I think it was on that side of Trump, right over there, and therefore the locals didn't.
Now the head of the Secret Service told Congress, I assume under oath, that And that is not the case.
The Secret Service did not say they would take care of it.
And obviously they didn't.
Now, whether they said they would take care of it or not, you would think when they arrived there and did a quick little check, somebody for the Secret Service would have said, OK, remind me again who's covering that spot.
And that's the most prominent.
That's the first thing.
If I were there and I used to do this for Ronald Reagan, And then as mayor for Bill Clinton and Bush.
If I were there, even as a participant, if I was going to speak like I sometimes would do, and introduce Trump, and I came out and I saw that, I'd go right back and I'd say to the Secret Service, who's covering that damn thing?
I mean, it stood out like, you don't need a PhD in security to figure out that that's the place from which you can kill somebody.
It's the highest point.
Within easy shooting distance of the president of the presidential candidate.
And they're going to say, well, there's a mix up.
They said they were going to do it.
They say we were going to do it.
But then you don't look up there at some point before he comes out when you check everything out at the last minute.
And say, whoa, there's nobody up there.
They could kill him.
Or maybe they said, whoa, there's nobody up there.
They could kill him.
They sure brought him up.
They wanted him shot.
They put his head out there like that.
And nobody's answering these questions.
All of this could just be mistakes.
But by not answering the questions, By changing the answers, you create... It is justified to have, not to have conspiracies about it, but to have questions, hypotheticals, that haven't been answered yet.
You know, the first explanation was a lie, a complete lie.
The head of the Secret Service said you couldn't go on there because the roof was stashed.
Now, I didn't know if the roof was thatched or not.
I couldn't see that from the little television shot that I saw.
But I did think immediately, what the hell is wrong with the Secret Service?
Are they all injured and do they have a bad knee like I do?
You mean they don't have Secret Service agents that can navigate thatched roofs?
Jesus, a lot of roofs are thatched.
So all they, all the guy wants to kill the president is find a thatched roof.
And that'd be great because the Secret Service would like to take free shots at him.
Well, it turns out the roof wasn't thatched.
It's a flat roof.
I also looked at the guy navigating it and I said, what is that guy an athlete, a major athlete, does the Secret Service?
He was running across it like it was a flat roof, which is what it was.
So when you start lying to me right out of the box, I say to myself, and then you're asked, Well, you know, tell me more about the investigation and who... Well, we haven't had a chance to investigate it yet.
Reasonable.
And then they say, well, was it a conspiracy?
No.
Well, how would they know that?
Well, we're going to take a short break.
And, uh, when we come back, we're going to be talking about alternatives in Iran, which we don't talk about them.
There are alternatives.
It's just a matter of getting out of this sick relationship that the Harris, Biden, Obama group has with Iran.
The regime of terror.
Really, we should stop saying Iran.
We should say the regime.
Because the Iranian people are fed up and ready to... Well, we'll talk about all that in a minute.
We'll be right back.
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Well, welcome back to the Rudy Giuliani show.
So.
So, Ali Reza, welcome back.
Thank you so much.
Always a pleasure, Mayor, to be on your show.
I have to be in your city.
I have to tell you, I had a wonderful Persian meal before with him.
It was fabulous.
It's like the Persian meals we get when we go over to Albania or to Paris with MBK.
Yes.
I didn't realize in this city they had restaurants that made Quite authentic, but pretty authentic Persian food.
It's fabulous.
You can never go wrong with Persian food.
It's fabulous.
Well, you can go wrong with the regime of Tehran, though.
And we've been going wrong with the regime of Tehran now for three and a half years.
Now, I think our audience, I hope, has understood right from the very beginning that Iran is behind these attacks.
When you hear Yemen, Houthis, Lebanon, Hezbollah, Hamas, Gaza, this is all directed by and to a large extent funded by Iran.
Is that right?
Absolutely.
And you know, you don't even have to be an analyst to understand all of these things.
These are all stated facts.
By the regime itself, by those proxies themselves.
They make it pretty damn clear, don't they?
Yes.
Hassan Nasrallah, the head of the Hezbollah, has said that all the money and resources come from Iran.
And he said if the Iranian regime has money, we have money.
He even said that even our own underwriters are paid by the Iranian regime.
That's how deep the support goes.
And the level of training and continuation of the activities of the of Hezbollah has been very clear and no one is denying it.
So this carries out the thing that everybody just says.
Iran, the regime of terror, is the biggest sponsor of terrorism in the world.
State sponsor of terrorism.
Absolutely.
The regime in Tehran is actually the head of the snake of war and terror in the region.
You look at the whole situation there.
You know, look at the situation in Iraq.
The reason you have all those Shiite militias and the terror operatives, you know, bringing in the most explosive devices, the roadside bombs, was done by the Iran regime.
Look at the situation in Syria.
Look at the situation in Lebanon.
We were just talking about Hezbollah.
Yemen.
Well, you know, the Houthis, where did they come from?
I mean, just a few years ago, no one ever heard about them.
But it was the Iran regime that brought some of their leaders in Iran, in Qom, trained them, and then they expanded them, and funded them, and look what the situation is.
They are targeting commercial ships in the Red Sea.
That is affecting the economy of all countries around the world.
It's affecting the economy in California.
In California, I mean, you know, the fool, who thought that, you know... Plus, they're not all benign.
They kill people.
They kill Americans.
They've killed American soldiers.
They've killed civilian employees of the military, regular civilians.
And then they kill people of all different nationalities that are on those who are part of the merchant shipping.
That's the whole goal, to frighten the rest of the world so they would back down, that they would give concessions to the Iranian regime.
You know, we put out a lot of information that detailed how these Houthis from Yemen were brought in to Iran and we have the map and all the detailed location
where they were being trained by the Iranian Revolutionary Guards and giving them, you know,
weapons and training, creating independently run, you know, naval terror units controlled by the
Revolutionary Guards and send them back there to target ships and look what the situation is. I
mean, it's not like having somebody do your dirty work for you. You get all the benefits.
Now you got to put the money in, but they get all the casualties.
So your army, your military stays perfectly.
We lose a little bit.
They've made about 130, 140 attacks with some of the hoodies now.
And some of them have been on American bases and American facilities and on American shipping and then worldwide shipping.
Right.
Absolutely.
And you know, The whole purpose is just to show power and force of the Iranian regime, and the outcome is to gain concessions from the West.
The regime is in trouble inside the country, so what they do by relying on their terror operatives, like you mentioned the Houthis in Yemen, Hezbollah in Lebanon, and others, this is a strategy for the regime's survival.
Yeah, and not, you know, a powerful regime.
Rather, it's a very weak regime that is relying on the proxies.
I mean, in 2017, 2018, 2019, 2020, you would show me, and Farzeen and everyone, you would show me always, whenever we would get to, you'd show me all of the demonstrations that were going on.
It seemed like there were, there was a little break in them and they restarted, but there was It's like there was a demonstration every day, or every week at least.
And strangely, Iran is a very diverse place.
A lot of people don't realize it's different nationalities, even different languages to some extent, right?
Yes, yes.
Different areas.
It's pretty damn universal.
Actually, this is a very important point you raise because, you know, this is not like a certain sector of the society.
Let's say the intellectuals, or a certain area that some minorities, for instance the Kurds, Or the Baluchis?
No.
This is a whole nation standing up, particularly since 2017.
And every time the protests came back... And it kept growing.
It kept growing and expanding.
I remember it started with, there were certain industries, like the teachers protested and the cab drivers protested.
And the nurses, the physicians, the workers.
And then it turned out to be everybody protesting.
Everybody protesting.
And you know, every time it's triggered by something different.
You know, in 2017, it was the rise in the prices of chicken and eggs.
And then in 2019, it was tripling the price of gas overnight.
You know, the petrol you put in your car.
And that triggered the uprising.
In 2022, it was the death of a 22-year-old girl, Mahsa Amini.
The whole world knows about her.
And, you know, so people just look for the opportunity.
And as you mentioned earlier, it's not just certain areas.
All 31 provinces of Iran have been engulfed in these protests.
Over 280 cities were involved.
And every time it came back, it was longer lasting.
It was a lot deeper.
It was a lot more focused on regime change by the people of Iran.
And no matter what the regime did, you know, they put a temporary damp on it, but it just came back.
And the main concern the regime has now is that when is the next one going to come?
And they, because they feel they may not survive it because you know, this, this is a, this is a movement nationwide, but also backed by the workers.
How close?
I mean, uh, I mean, there was a big difference.
I remember when Trump first came in very, very quickly and he was at first only using the prior sanctions, but all of a sudden within four months, there was a major effect on the economy of Iran, which said to me, Obama really wasn't enforcing the sanctions.
Not only was he sending the money in cash, which I do not understand.
For the life of me, I can't figure out how you send cash to any country, but particularly a country who supports terrorism.
But in any event, quickly, and he was surprised the first four or five months, immediately there was an impact on their economy.
And then they realized Obama didn't enforce the damn sanctions.
Then they got more sanctions.
By the time you get to 2019 and 2020, you're showing me pictures of people selling their kidneys because they can't eat.
Now, that's terrible, but that's the way you break dictatorships through poverty.
I mean, that's what that's what overcame the Soviets.
And they were ready to... Now, I don't think people know, or enough people know, and they hide this, their intelligence and their public relations are Almost as good as China.
Maybe better.
But this is Madame Rajavi.
You've heard me talk about her.
She has, over a long period of time, put together a very, very strong coalition.
And this is not an overstatement.
If that government were to be overthrown tomorrow and they all ran off, right, and took their money with them, a government could be stood up immediately.
Absolutely.
As an interim government.
And it would immediately organize, with the help, hopefully, of the United States, to become a democracy.
I mean, to become a functioning democracy.
Like, people vote within nine months.
You know, interestingly, this is something that's been going on for a long time, and the movement has thought about all of these things.
First of all, how to bring down the Ayatollah.
Second, what is it that you're looking for?
What's going to be replacing it?
What's the platform that you're favoring?
You know, the 10-point plan for the future of Iran, introduced by Mrs. Rajavi and, you know, the NCRI.
Tell us what NCRI stands for.
Well, NCRI stands for the National Council of Resistance of Iran, which is a coalition of various political organizations, different tendencies, that are all focusing on regime change and replacing it with a democratic a secular republic form of a government.
Of course, the Mujahideen, or the MEK, is the main force within the NCRI.
Now, this 10-point plan platform emphasizes on the ballot box as the only criteria for legitimacy.
Unlike the Mullahs, who say they get legitimacy from God.
You know, when was the last time the Supreme Leader was elected?
Never!
Or the previous dictatorship of the Shah, that, you know, Just because, you know, he argued that his son has a better gene than anybody else.
So the son would become king and he was never elected either.
So that's out of the door.
The people of Iran are just over with it.
They have rejected the Shah's dictatorship in a genuine revolution.
I mean, there's no, there's no, there isn't much of a historical president, completely counterproductive to go from one dictatorship back to the old one, the Shah.
I mean, so you just, Take the people out of prison that are in prison and you substitute them for the one the new dictator wants.
Exactly.
I mean, that happens too often.
And I mean, that was part of the problem with the Arabs spring.
Remember, in Egypt, they went to the Muslim Brotherhood.
Oh, my God.
I mean, they get they they got they got rid of a guy that was I don't know.
I don't know how oppressive he was or he wasn't.
But all of a sudden you go to the Muslim Brotherhood and now you got real problems.
I mean, it's hard to go from worse than the regime of terror, but you could go pretty bad if you brought back the Shah or any of his elements, because whatever the romance, the guy was a dictator, his father was a dictator and a murderer.
Absolutely.
History of that dictatorship and that's why the people were chanting in the streets that death to the oppressor, be it the Shah or the Supreme Leader.
Yeah, I want democracy.
And the people remember it in their history and probably they remember it even better now because the regime emphasizes it in educating them.
Right.
So you don't want them to go from bad to worse or from bad to bad.
And then also it would just mean a revolution in two more years or three more years.
Could also mean that the clerics could come back.
Well, that's why this movement is about the rejection of theocracy, rejection of any form of dictatorship.
It believes in suppression of religion and state, a free market economy, equal rights for men and women.
Actually, women comprise the vast majority of the leadership of this movement.
Think about it!
Because the Mullahs are misogynists, so you have the leadership of women in the movement, don't you?
Now, she took over for her husband, who was a martyr, right?
Well, you know, Mrs. Rajavi is actually the president-elect of the NCRI, and her husband is the overall leader of the whole movement, Massoud Rajavi.
But what she has done, she has introduced, you know, not just a platform, but she has implemented that in the movement.
You know, when we talk about women freedom, you have women in the leadership.
When we talk about religious freedom, You know, you have different mentalities.
Even non-believers are part of this coalition.
The ten points, real quick, are rejection of clerical rule, universal suffrage and pluralism, freedom of speech, political parties assembly, freedom of the press and the internet, dissolution of the IRGC, the CUDS force, all of the implements of dictatorship.
Third, commitment to individual and social freedoms and rights.
Uh, for separation of religion and state and freedom of religions.
Yes.
Practice the religion you want or no religion.
Right.
Uh, complete gender equality.
Wow.
I mean, that would be like, that would be like an electric shock all through the Middle East and a good one because you have a lot.
I mean, I've read a lot about how the only way you're really going to turn all of this around is through women.
Asserting themselves, because they've been treated so horribly in some of these countries.
This would be like one major... And you know, in the case of... This would be one major... Exactly.
And somebody has to go there and meet... I'm not just talking about Mrs. Rajavi.
I'm talking about all the women you have that are carrying out, and all the men that you have, equal functions with the men.
Right.
I mean, it's a model without excessive crazy feminism.
Basic, just everybody's equal.
Everybody's equal.
If a woman can do it, she can do it.
If she can't do it, the man doesn't.
If the man can't do it, the woman doesn't.
Without any exploitation of that.
Absolutely.
This is an end to the exploitation of women.
See them as human beings to begin with.
And ending the misogyny that is controlled by the ruling theocracy.
And that's why this has had a huge impact.
The fact that you see women, young girls in the streets of Iran, During the uprisings, they are in the forefront of the fight.
It didn't just happen by itself, by accident.
There were women who paid the price over the years and fought and showed the world.
One became world famous when she was killed in 2009.
Neda Agha Sultan, that was 2009.
And most recently, 2022, Mahsa Amini.
Yeah.
Was the girl that... Whether she had some hair showing or... Right, exactly.
But, you know, but there is a history behind that because in 1988 when there was a massacre of 30,000 political prisoners based on a religious decree, a fat law by the Supreme Leader saying anyone who is in any way associated with this movement must be killed.
30,000?
30,000.
And who?
Who was in charge?
Well, you know, Ebrahim Raisi, the previous president, who just died in May in a helicopter crash, was one of the four members of that death commission.
That's how he got so high.
He had no education whatsoever.
He only knew how to kill.
The guy was a massive, guy was like a major mafia hitman.
Absolutely.
And following the orders of the Supreme Leader.
Selling innocent men, women and children.
Exactly.
And you know, the women at the time in 1988, you know, they said no to the Mullahs and set an example For the future generations.
You know, that's why the teenagers, the Gen Z today, the females, they have that history and that culture that's created by women fighters who stand up against the regime and say no, and they're for freedom.
And that's why you see in Iran the role of women.
This is an interesting one.
The right to choose one's own clothing freely, which of course we all take for granted.
You get killed if you pick the wrong clothes.
Absolutely, that's what so many people did get.
The right to freely marry, so you can pick your husband or wife.
If somebody doesn't tell you, that's who you marry.
Or to divorce, as it says, because under the rule of the Ayatollahs, the right to divorce is only with men.
Independent judiciary.
Abolishment of the Mullah Sharia law.
And the dissolution, thank God, of the Islamic Revolutionary Court, which are courts that basically order the execution and then have the trial.
And they're doing it right now.
Just in the past few weeks, since last August, when the new president of the regime, Massoud Pazishkian, was sworn in, in about a month, over 170 Executions of these prisoners.
How many?
170 in about a month.
How is that not reported here?
First of all, the length, the breadth and the depth of the demonstrations and the protests was not reported here.
I mean, Americans didn't know that you had every element going on that suggested a government could be overthrown.
Absolutely.
You had the whole range of society, geographically the entire country.
Their objections were multitudinous.
They had different objections, but a lot of it came right down to they were starving.
I mean, they were being starved, largely because America was squeezing them, which we changed.
We started giving them money, which was wacky.
And second, even when they have very little money, they still spend money on the terrorism.
Right.
Terrorism comes first, the people come second.
You know, the poverty, 80% of the Iranian people live below the poverty line.
And remember, Iran is a very, very rich country.
Second largest oil and gas reserve in the world.
And it's because of the corruption.
You know, the Mullahs, exactly as you said, the Revolutionary Guards, the Mullahs, they steal all the money.
They control the bulk of the entire economy.
So that's why when you give money to the Iran regime, it doesn't go to the people.
It further enriches the Revolutionary Guards.
It gives them more resources to fund their terrorism and fund all these proxy groups.
And that's why, you know, the people want change.
And you know, when the sanctions were imposed on the Iranian regime by, you know, various periods, the people, instead of holding the United States or other countries responsible for it, they held the regime responsible, saying, you know, the enemy is right here.
They lie when they say it's America.
That's one of the major slogans in the streets of Iran, because the mullahs wanted to justify the living conditions of the people in the United States who had imposed sanctions.
And they said, no, the thieves are the ones who are ruling the country in Iran.
We need to see change.
Also, one of the issues is you have different nationalities and ethnicities.
Right.
And number seven is to remove the injustices against them.
Including a plan for the autonomy of Iranian Kurdistan, which is of course an issue that's been going on forever, right?
You know, they were badly repressed under the Shah.
They were further repressed under the Mullahs.
And they need to have their rights to exercise, you know, have their own autonomy in terms of their language, their culture.
The same situation exists for the Baluchis.
And there were other nationalities in Iran.
So that became like a model that was passed in our parliament in exile.
Showing the people of Iran that we have plans for all of those unresolved issues related to, you know, the history of Iran or the detentions of the Shah and the Mullahs.
All we need to do is to, you know, bring down the Ayatollahs and give the opportunity for the people to implement all of these things.
And of course a non-nuclear Iran.
Absolutely, you know, a non-nuclear Iran is so important because for the Mullahs, the nuclear weapons program is actually meant to Keep them in power.
And we played a huge role.
You know, it was in 2002, August of 2002, that we exposed all the major nuclear sites of Iran, including Natanz, which was a uranium enrichment facility.
And that same evening, when we made the revelation, it triggered the request by the International Atomic Energy Agency, which is a nuclear watchdog of the UN, And eventually they managed to go to Iran and find all of these things.
And we have press conferences after press conferences exposing the whole nuclear weapons program of Iran.
So we don't just talk about it, but in action we do it.
Exactly.
Well, there's one question I wanted to ask you.
I'm really confused about this.
So through this organization, I've spent a lot of time over the last, how many years is it now?
It's over 15 years now.
Learning a lot.
Been to their facilities.
They have, without any doubt, the best ability to see inside Iran and the best ability to communicate inside Iran.
Myself and my colleagues have probably made, if you count all of them, we've probably done hundreds of speeches inside Iran.
So when we speak at the conferences, they'll find a way to broadcast it.
to the oppressed people of Iran. Now, all of a sudden, I read about how,
and I think this is a setup by the regime, they want to bring the Shah's son back. Now,
a couple of the Shah's siblings, I remember, committed suicide, right?
Absolutely.
Two or three?
Yes.
So which one is this?
The one that they want to bring back?
Obviously one that didn't commit suicide.
Right.
As you correctly said, no rational nation anywhere in the world Especially if that was a dictatorship that you once overthrew.
Not with the coup d'etat, but through a genuine nationwide revolution in 1979.
In all the protests that I saw, I didn't see anybody holding up signs.
I did see people holding up signs for Madame Rajavi.
Some people holding up signs for Trump.
There were so many signs for him.
Now, is this a regime plot?
Well, certainly.
Quoting his name?
I mean, this regime is... Don't underestimate it.
You never should underestimate your enemy at all.
Absolutely.
These are evil people.
They're murderers.
Some of them are wacky, wacky, but some of them are quite smart.
I mean, quite devious.
You know, the most characteristic of the regime is their demagoguery.
They are like, you know, very tricky.
And one of the ways for them to survive is just to make this impression that the people of Iran want to go back to, you know, previous dictatorship.
There is no movement for that inside Iran.
In fact, it's the opposite.
There's a sort of sense that maybe Maybe the U.S.
will impose it on them or somebody else impose it.
So when they talk about it, they basically say, get rid of the Shah and get rid of the monarchy.
Absolutely.
That's one of the main slogans during the protests saying, you know, death to the oppressor, be it the Shah or the supreme leader, making it very clear that the future belongs to democracy.
The future belongs to, you know, separation of religion and state.
There is no room, especially the younger generation of Iran.
Iranian people, especially the younger generation, two-thirds of the Iranian population are below the age of 30, and they're very educated, they're very aware of all the things happening there, and they would never ever settle for any kind of dictatorship.
The whole trick is that they want the outside world not to realize that there is a genuine alternative to the Iranian regime, that that alternative has the ability to overthrow the regime, because if you don't look at the alternative, then you would say, yeah, we know this regime is bad, but there's no alternative, so let's find a way of cutting a deal with them or appeasing them and just reaching out.
At the end of the day, the outcome is to keep the regime in power.
That's why the alternative is so important.
This man has literally Almost lost his life for this movement.
So this is quite a hero.
And very well known in Washington to both Republicans and Democrats.
They have organized quite a bipartisan coalition of Democrats.
And when I would go, I would go with Senator Lieberman, who of course was a Democrat.
Governor Bill Richardson.
The late Governor Richardson, Eddie Riddell, my old pal, Eddie Riddell, James Jones, who was the head of the Democratic Party in his appeal.
Exactly.
And General James Jones, the first time Secretary Advisor of President Obama.
And then on the other side, you had a whole host of prominent people, the former Director of FBI, former Director of CIA.
You know, former Homeland Security Secretary.
There was a whole host of them.
And also, they tried to kill us once.
Yes.
We were all there.
2018 in Paris.
Speaker Gingrich, Newt was there.
Right.
Judge Mukasey, former Attorney General, a number of European former heads of state.
Several hundred, actually, parliamentarians from Europe or former heads of state.
They got caught.
On the border with plans, explosives, and an Iranian diplomat, which I thought was really kind of desperate.
I mean, you would think you would keep the Iranian diplomat out, so it became somewhat ambiguous.
He brought the bomb himself.
But I think they wanted people, whether it happened or not, they wanted people to know.
We're going to kill you.
Yes.
Yes.
They tried to do it earlier that year.
Right.
In Ashraf 3 in Albania.
And they tried to kill you in America.
You know, a truck bomb in August of that year.
They tried to kill me here in America.
Right here in America.
The two that we're talking about were people that had bombs, bomb implements, plans, explosive devices.
Yeah.
Yeah, truck bombs they had brought.
Yeah.
Well, we're going to, um, we're gonna take a short break and, uh, and we'll be back and we want to thank, uh, L.A.
Razor for being here.
I want to thank him for feeding me.
Thank you, Mayor.
We'll have them on regularly because you need to know this.
This is, you know, remember we say we dedicate ourselves to bringing you the news that they censor?
This is a lot of, a lot of, they censor on.
I don't know what it is.
But there's a sick, pathological affection for the regime of terror.
I don't know what it is, but a lot of people have it, and they gotta get over it.
Otherwise, we're gonna have a tragedy.
We'll be right back.
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