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Aug. 12, 2024 - Rudy Giuliani

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America's Mayor Live (E471): The Democrat Party & Their Media Allies are Protecting Kamala Harris

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	This is Rudy Giuliani with America's Mayor live and live in Dallas, Texas.
	Very nice Dallas, Texas.
	See that Christmas tree in back of me?
	I don't know what that is.
	It's supposed to be Dallas, Texas, but I don't remember it in Dallas, Texas.
	I hope that's the right background.
	That's the, you're not familiar with the Dallas, uh, it's actually called the Reunion Tower.
	That's the Union Tower?
	It's now called the Reunion Tower.
	Who gets, who gets reunioned in there?
	I think it used to be called the Stratosphere.
	Oh, I don't know that either.
	But it's now called the Reunion Tower.
	I used to come here all the time.
	You don't remember this?
	You don't remember that?
	No, all those lights and everything like that?
	It used to rotate.
	It used to rotate?
	It used to rotate.
	What happened?
	It got tired?
	It stopped rotating.
	It used to be called the Dallas Stratosphere.
	Anybody know why it stopped rotating?
	Maybe it'll fall down?
	Let's see what year this was built.
	Somebody didn't drop it?
	1978.
	I should have known it.
	I don't remember it.
	Are you sure it wasn't dropped there by an alien or something?
	You're saying it doesn't really fit the skyline.
	I always see it when they play Often when they show Dallas Cowboys games, Dallas Stars in hockey, they'll show like the skyline, right?
	So that's how I know.
	I don't know.
	That's the only reason I even know what it looks like.
	It doesn't ring a bell with me time to go for my cognitive exam.
	Uh oh.
	Do you know the name of the president?
	Barack Obama?
	Would I be wrong?
	Does anyone really know?
	Would I be wrong?
	No, no, no.
	So unfortunately, Israel is sitting there on pins and needles, waiting for an Iranian attack, which the Obama administration, I mean, well, might as well, the Biden administration will say was terrible, awful.
	We have Israel's back, but don't do anything about it.
	Please be very, very gentle in your response to their attacking you, please.
	How would we have felt about people advising us after Pearl Harbor was attacked?
	Would you please be gentle in your response, Franklin?
	I mean, be careful.
	Don't hurt any civilians now, Franklin would say.
	But it's hard to, like, bomb Berlin without, in any event, you know, they put these civilians right in the buildings.
	I don't know if they did that.
	If I don't take out the civilians, then I leave all the sophisticated arms in all the buildings in which they put the sophisticated arms with civilians around.
	So every time lying Harris says this, one of the things she's lying about is the fact that there's a moral culpability on the part of the terrorist group she supports, Hamas.
	Uh, to try and save the lives of children, but they go worse than that.
	They don't not try to save the lives of children.
	They put the children right up there to be killed for the propaganda value, because they know they can snow you.
	They know they can, um, brainwash you.
	And they are experts on brainwashing because many of them have been trained by the Chinese communists on how to do it.
	Sure.
	Uh, Walsy for sure, during his 30 trips to China, got some really good training.
	On Chinese communists, otherwise he wouldn't come back saying things like one man's socialism is another man's neighborliness.
	A one day or two day trip to China will certainly take any realistic, open minded person and turn them into an anti-communist.
	Or unless you like to see people suffer.
	Which is possible.
	I don't know.
	I don't know anything about this guy, Walls, except he's an incredibly disgracefully inept public official.
	He walked out on a city and he walked out on his guard unit.
	I don't know how much more he's got to tell us that he is, as described in many of the newspapers, a coward.
	I mean, that city was burning like hell.
	I'm going to tell you the truth.
	Saturday night, I believe it was, I started watching a Minneapolis burning.
	And I, I had to put off certain portions of it.
	So I didn't watch the whole thing, which I'm going to do, but there are parts of it, particularly when you listen to the, the woman Lieutenant or Sergeant, I'm not sure what she was Lieutenant or Sergeant.
	She wasn't in uniform at the time describing how she was forced to give up the precinct and how she thought that that decision by.
	The boy mayor and the communist governor were critical to what happened around the country.
	And it's amazing that she says that, because at the time, I have to say, this is not Monday morning quarterbacking.
	Before it happened, when they started threatening it, I started saying on the radio, if they give that up, the United States is going to explode.
	These people are going to feel empowered all over the country.
	Now, I didn't know as well then the Soros empire.
	I really have been smart as hell, because if I knew the Soros Empire, I could have told you exactly where it would happen, and I could tell you exactly what the consequences would be, which is nobody would go to jail!
	They're terrible.
	Absolutely terrible.
	Now we have this team, now we have this team running the second largest party in the United States.
	Well, maybe it's the largest.
	I don't know.
	I'm sort of resting on my laurels because Florida hit the one million mark.
	One million more Republicans in Florida than in than Democrats.
	Isn't that great after years of it's being a Democrat state?
	Wow.
	So we can thank now.
	Now, let's let's be fair here.
	We got to go back to Jeb Bush and Rubio and Scott and and of course, Governor DeSantis and some of the great members of Congress that they have.
	Gates.
	I mean, I love their people.
	It's a nice lively party, too.
	And I am going to vote in their primary.
	Legally.
	Legally.
	An absentee.
	I think it's because I'm going to, I mean, I have a legitimate reason.
	I think I'm going to be helping Mike and Dr. Maria and a whole bunch of others cover the communist, the Democrat convention.
	What do you, what do you mean, think?
	We're, we're, we're booked.
	You're right, we're going.
	Oh, we're booked already?
	We're going?
	Oh yeah, Ted's really excited about that.
	I'm looking, I'm not, I'm going to bring my natural, I bet Trump wouldn't go.
	I guarantee you.
	I wonder if he's still enough of a germaphobe that he just wouldn't go.
	I wonder if Trump just wouldn't go.
	I mean, in prior years, I used to kid around with my friend, Jay Wallman, that if you had any, if you were a germaphobe, you just wouldn't go to a democratic convention.
	First of all, I don't think, I don't think, I think it's part of their plan for me.
	I'm not going to take showers for five days, no showers or shave.
	So you see the men with that hair in their face and the women with their hair coming out of their arms and all that stuff.
	You know, they're wearing these short dresses and then you see like, boop, boop, boop, boop.
	And then, and then, and then sometimes those women, they sneak into the ladies' room and they're not women.
	And they love it.
	I mean, look at Walsy.
	Walsy's a big, big supporter of men sneaking, what?
	Yeah.
	That's what he is.
	So there is an interview going on, which Ted is trying to very, very carefully find and not succeed in.
	Yeah.
	This is an interview between Elon Musk and Donald Trump, which some reporter thought could be canceled by the administration.
	Can you believe that?
	This could be considered media disinformation.
	An interview by the opposing candidate is disinformation.
	Well, that's what it is.
	Anything the opposing candidate says is disinformation.
	Then anything you say is true, which is, of course, exactly what Orwell told us in 1984 would happen with communism.
	I think, I mean, I think the whole issue of the Democrat Party being highly influenced by the Red Chinese Party is over with Walls.
	Walls either acts like a Chinese communist or he is a Chinese communist.
	And why anybody who isn't a Chinese communist wants to act like he is unless he's an undercover agent is beyond my comprehension.
	But there are things that he has said that you wouldn't say if you weren't a Chinese communist.
	You wouldn't go to China and come back and say it was one of the best vacations of your life if you had any sensitivity to the economic system and political system that oppresses more people than any nation in the world.
	Which, I mean, he didn't just say it was a nice thing.
	It was one of the best he's ever had, or the best that he's ever had.
	Or you wouldn't come back with a strange, perturbed, totally ignorant, silly notion of socialism, unless you were taught proper propaganda.
	And you repeat it because you're part of the phalanx of people who are supposed to soften us up on Red China.
	And you've done a pretty good job of that.
	That is part of that is part, and that is one of the things that they are the very, very, very, very best at.
	So, um.
	The terrible things that are happening as a result of this.
	For example, this is like deja vu all over again for me.
	I know this is the second time I've used that in the last two days, but the attacks on the Jewish people, because they're Jewish in Crown Heights, although more limited than certainly the Pilgrim, Of 1992 reminds me of that Pilgrim where black people went out and at the instigation of Al Al Sharpton when he was, you know, I don't think you'd recognize him back then.
	He was like.
	I don't know what you would describe one big.
	Piece of large like that and and he got ahold of Dinkins, the police commission out of town.
	Brown was out of town and.
	And there was an incident involving the rabbi and a young black boy who was accidentally hit by the car, I think killed.
	And then they went out for three straight nights, they went out for four nights, three straight nights, looking for Jews to beat up or kill.
	And yelling and screaming, get me a Jew, that he's a Jew.
	Not only is there plenty of television footage left, although a lot of it has been hidden and done away with, I went to look at it with my own eyes.
	I mean, I drove among them and walked among them and listened to them saying it.
	It was, I think, the first and only pogrom in the United States.
	What's a pogrom?
	Pogrom used to happen in Eastern European countries, and it was when a large, large number of the community decides to target Jews and beat them up.
	Usually they go into the Jewish ghetto, the Jewish neighborhood in town, and just burn it, beat people up.
	for the strangest reason and for one that's that's really disgraceful they used to often
	take place on Good Friday when the highly excitable Christians, this was in Eastern
	Europe to a large extent, would hear the Passion read to them at Good Friday Mass,
	including the portion about you, all right we're back on, of Pilate, the portion saying where
	his blood is on your hands and the hands of your children.
	That, as I can If I do recall, the biblical quote is not from Jesus, or as far as from Pontius Pilate, but it becomes for these weak-minded, vicious people, it became a source of justification for beating people up and worse.
	Not only beating people up, but beating up Jesus's people.
	Jesus Christ was a practicing Jew.
	He lived his religion.
	Of course he had criticisms about the hypocrisy of it.
	Don't you have criticisms about the hypocrisies of Christianity?
	and I think things were a lot worse in his day than they are among religions today, any of the religions.
	So, treat Jesus this way in this in this world that we live in.
	I mean, the Democratic Party are so anti-Jesus, so anti-religion.
	There's an article in the Post today by a woman who says that she, Kamala, is directly anti-Catholic.
	She reminds us of the candidate for judgeship who was a member of the Knights of Columbus that she treated as some kind of subversive because he belonged to a Group that believes in pro-life and he belonged to a group that has other Catholic dogmas that she doesn't allow other people to have.
	I mean, I'm I'm I'm personally pro-life, but there's a certain level of of my thinking that's pro-choice to the extent that I think other people are first of all do have different views on it, but not might have.
	And number two, to a certain extent, there's a certain level of willingness of my saying, I can't quash their views.
	I don't have to share them.
	And they don't have to share mine.
	But Harris is a fascist.
	Her view is that everything that is contrary to what she believes is disinformation and should be wiped out.
	Including all these issues on abortion, that Catholic doctors should be made to have to perform abortions.
	Are you kidding?
	Are you kidding?
	I mean, if I were a doctor, even given my willingness to tolerate a pro-choice position for some period of time, not that I agree with it, but that, you know, other people do, I wouldn't personally, even when I was more pro-choice, because I've kind of been swayed quite a bit with the extremism of the Democrat position.
	I don't consider it to be a good faith position any longer.
	Not since the time they passed the bill in New York, and we're discussing the bill in Virginia about abortion at the last moment of pregnancy.
	And then it slipped into a sloppy conversation between, I think it was Governor Nordham and a reporter, in which Governor Nordham speculated that there is a little period of time where you could abort the child after the child was born.
	And that would be a situation in which you went for an abortion.
	You were, let's say, in the eighth month.
	You went for an abortion and the child survived.
	You're now unconscious.
	And you can say before the child comes out, get rid of it.
	But now the child is sitting in the specialized unit that's made for premature children or children.
	And you get some time, according to the governor, to talk it over with your doctor.
	And it's your decision.
	Your decision to do what?
	Take the baby out of the little cage and kill it?
	Are you kidding me?
	He's never clarified that.
	He's never.
	And there are groups who agree with abortion afterwards.
	As she does.
	I mean, she's, I mean, she has no policy positions.
	You look at her, you look at her site.
	There are no policy positions.
	There isn't something like, we'll end the war in, we'll end the war in Ukraine in a year.
	Or what constitutes the end of the war?
	We'll drive Russia out.
	We'll drive them back by a significant percentage.
	We'll accept it.
	Nothing.
	And it is possible.
	Although I'm not sure.
	There may be a hidden game plan here.
	Probably not in the interest of the United States, but a hidden game plan.
	But there may not be either.
	So I don't know.
	I don't know the answer to, how do you end the thing?
	What end do they have in mind?
	I don't think they have any in mind.
	I think they like this war.
	I think it's keeping Russia busy and they're making a fortune.
	And, um, there's no, I mean, right now there's no strategy to win.
	There's a marking time, get people killed effort that should be up until they're ready to make a choice.
	on whether they want to fight to win or they want to fight to a draw.
	And I don't think it's fair to take people's lives unless you have that in mind.
	And that's going to take getting rid of the demented one from the White House.
	So we'll be back in a very, very short period of time.
	And if I put my name on something, I truly believe in it.
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	There's obviously some technical difficulties going on with the very important interview of Elon Musk and former President Donald Trump.
	Now, interestingly, you know, we're simultaneously on X with them.
	Right now, this show is live on X, as well as five or six other social platforms.
	However, the very beginning of this show, apparently, Ted tells me, didn't come on Because of the technical difficulties with the simultaneous X show, which as I believe is only audio.
	We're audio and video, as you can see, but it's only audio.
	Ted, tell us what you've been able to do.
	Right.
	Those of you, that's right, Mayor.
	So those of you who are watching us here on, on X, we got you a little bit late today because, and we, we have a direct line with, uh, top people over at X.
	Does that happen, Ted, because a lot of people tune in?
	Yeah, they made fun of DeSantis.
	Big time.
	Yeah.
	Big time.
	That was like the first of many.
	Surprised it happened to DeSantis.
	He is competent.
	That sounds like a Biden kind of thing.
	Well, what I would say is, again, this is due to the overwhelming interest in this interview between President Trump and Elon Musk.
	Again, this is happening on Twitter, but as of now, And well, as of a couple of minutes, I'm going to head over there now to see if, uh, they've cleaned it up.
	But again, this is due to just the overwhelming interest doing a Musk, uh, Trump.
	First of all, it does help eggs.
	Uh, Elon has now endorsed Trump, right?
	Uh, not has he, I think he did after the assassination attempt and he, he, he gave him a lot of money and he's of course hosting him here.
	As of now, Mayor, the space is not working.
	So stick with us.
	We'll let you know.
	Did you know that Elon would starting about a year ago?
	He was just headed in that direction.
	You knew that whatever, it's a very interesting thing and it's a great lesson for the American people and those of you who have this residual resentment to Trump because you think he doesn't speak the way you want him to speak.
	He isn't kind enough or gentlemanly enough or what?
	I don't know.
	I mean, I don't know exactly what it is.
	Because when I do get a chance to talk to some people about what's bothering them, and I realize there are things that can bother them.
	A lot of them act so crazy, I can't figure it out.
	I mean, you want to tell me you don't like the way he calls people names, I get that.
	You want to tell me he's going to take away democracy, then I think they should reopen Bellevue.
	I mean, the guy was president already, he didn't take away democracy.
	The guy did less to take away democracy than The Bidens actually did it.
	They actually did what they're threatening.
	That's the reason they're talking about it, because they did it.
	It's like this with every single one of their frame ups of Trump.
	It's them.
	They accuse him of doing what they did.
	Russian collusion was actually Ukrainian collusion.
	The Russian hard drive was covered up because it does contain evidence of hundreds and hundreds of crimes.
	That would put the Biden crime family in jail for the rest of its putrid life if it were treated with a modicum of fairness.
	I mean, you can go on and on.
	Count the number of people among the J6 people.
	Were there more Antifa, Black Lives Matter, FBI, Secret Service?
	And even if there weren't as many, was there a critical mass that to the extent that they could create violence, created violence among a group that was angry and upset, but not particularly violent, never had been before?
	I mean, they manipulate everything.
	And then you look at all the breakdowns of the FBI, of the Secret Service on the assassination day.
	Tempted assassination day.
	And like you say about Walls, who does a good job of pretending to be a Chinese communist, the Secret Service was doing a good job of pretending they would like to see him killed.
	That's the only way you can answer not covering that roof after you were told that it was dangerous.
	That's the only way you can answer the fact that your then chief of all chiefs of the Secret Service said that couldn't go on that roof because it was too thatched or it was too Meanwhile, you see people walking on it that are about 85 years old.
	I mean they lied about so many things that they give the impression there's something phony about this.
	I don't know.
	All I can do is react to what I hear.
	And I'm not one to just push them away on the theory that these are just basically good people.
	These are not basically... Nancy Pelosi and Joe Biden and the first stepmother are not naturally good people.
	There's something else you would call them.
	Naturally good people don't shut out and never see their granddaughter because she's illegitimate.
	And I don't know.
	You don't want the political pressure.
	That's not a naturally good person.
	Kamala, we don't have any examples of because she doesn't have any children, but she really looks like a fierce, fierce human being.
	Wow.
	Everything that comes out of her mouth, it's like one sided, other side.
	And they come together and they contradict each other.
	And you say, how did she ever think of saying something like that?
	Must be some, That's the right word.
	Synapse in the brain that gets all screwed up.
	And then she starts saying completely, you know, completely, it is a completely silly thing.
	You know, a community bank.
	What's a community bank, Kamala?
	A community bank is, um, is, um, part of the community.
	Yeah.
	Doing well on the rehabilitation camera.
	Well, where are we, Ted?
	Well, Mayor, just another update.
	People are still unable to get into the X space between your friend, President Donald Trump, and the great Elon Musk.
	We are now 28 minutes past the hour.
	This was slated to begin at 8pm Eastern.
	It is now 8.28pm Eastern.
	It was supposed to start at 8.
	Yeah, it's 8.28pm now.
	Oh, I see.
	So we are approaching half hour past the start time.
	Again, let's see if we can join now.
	We're about to Try and enter here.
	So those of you you're not missing out on, we'll be honest brokers.
	We're not going to keep people, we'll let people know as soon as it's on and you can head over there if you'd like.
	Can we put it on?
	Can I hear it?
	But no, it's not on.
	I know.
	When it goes on.
	Yes, when it goes on, Mayor, we'll make sure you can hear it as well.
	And if Elon asks him any trick questions.
	Comment below.
	Let us know if you're finding it.
	I've heard rumors that they're going to play it on the Tesla YouTube channel.
	That's not, that has not, that is not the case.
	The who what?
	Tesla has a YouTube channel.
	And it has millions of followers, right?
	It's like car people.
	What do they do?
	They talk about their Teslas?
	Yeah.
	Like anything else, right?
	It's like a club, I'm sure.
	Although now the Tesla club is so big.
	We're getting electricity?
	Yeah.
	I'm in the desert.
	I have no electricity.
	I'm 500 miles from a pump.
	What should I do?
	Shoot yourself.
	We rented one in West Palm last year.
	I hated it.
	At first it was kind of neat.
	It's new, but you can't go, you know, you can't go anywhere without having to plug it in for a half hour.
	And then you got to sit there.
	Yeah.
	And you have to plan ahead.
	Yeah.
	It's not like gas where you fill up when you fill up.
	You got to sit there for a half hour.
	What if you just want to run to the store real quick?
	Could be really good for tanks.
	Sorry, stop the war.
	We got to, we got to go back and get electric.
	Oh yeah.
	Pause, pause.
	We're using windmills.
	I'm sorry.
	We're using windmills for our power and there's no wind, so we're going to have to stop the war for a while.
	So again, we are all over this.
	The president is in this Twitter space.
	It does appear that we're now live.
	Let's see if we can get this going.
	First time back on Twitter.
	He was on Twitter once before, wasn't he, recently?
	That's right.
	He's the king of Twitter.
	I am now list—we are now in the space—we'll put it on the screen.
	We're getting hold music.
	Can we hear it?
	Oh!
	Wow, so what we're hearing now is that a massive attack, massive what's called a DDoS attack on X. They're working on shutting it down.
	Worst case, they're planning to proceed with a smaller number of listeners.
	And then they'll release it to everyone.
	You mean enemies are attacking it, it sounds like.
	Yes.
	Yeah, I know you did.
	I know you did.
	Of course, they're really getting vicious, aren't they?
	I mean, how many votes is an Elon?
	Well, you know, they try to shut him out.
	If you can get around them, right, then all the money they waste on the phony media like ABC and NBC and George Stephanopoulos sucking up to their Unowads and And ABC and CNBC and MSNBC.
	All that's kind of wasted if we can get around them.
	And X is a hell of a way around them.
	What kind of audience do you think X would have gotten tonight or will get tonight for a Trump interview with Elon?
	30, 40 million?
	It's down.
	34?
	No.
	How many do you think they would have gotten if it went smoothly?
	30 million?
	Yeah.
	Globally?
	No.
	Maybe more.
	Maybe more.
	But you think this will really affect it, obviously.
	People don't want to wait around.
	A thousand people have joined this space.
	That's not a lot for him.
	The numbers are funny, right?
	Like, um, I would say, look, Twitter is not real life.
	Um, and Yeah, you just spent millions of viewers tonight, right?
	And so what's happening is a, I mean, this is a well-planned attack.
	This is not, this is not because viewers are crashing the system.
	This is because people are interfering with the system.
	That's, that's, that is what Elon Musk has just stated.
	And we'll put that up as a breaking news alert because again, right, this is a big deal.
	This is in 2016, Mayor, you were, you were right next to the president, uh, on that campaign.
	Just how valuable Twitter was for him and getting his message out.
	Oh yeah.
	When the media, the legacy media simply wouldn't.
	That was critical.
	It was critical.
	I mean, even, even if he got criticized for it, at least he got his, he got his message out.
	And I mean, they, they just want to shut him down completely.
	Don't they?
	Yes.
	Um, and so I'm getting, now they have their own set of businesses built up against Elon Musk.
	Yeah.
	This is a, uh, DDoS attacks on, I will get, I don't have a huge tech background, but... It'll happen at Chicago when all these, where the angriest people in America show up for their convention.
	I mean, it isn't like nice group of Republicans who come from the suburbs and want to go out and have a steak or something.
	These are the most vicious, horrible people you ever met.
	They campaign, they protest against each other because there's nothing else to do sometimes.
	Yeah.
	I would imagine.
	Do you think they're taking their cheating lessons yet or they're waiting a little?
	They are.
	Who?
	The Democrats.
	Oh my gosh.
	Of course they're cheating.
	I mean, they've been cheating every election.
	I mean, 2020 is when it finally, I guess, you know, we had some people willing to stand up and call it out.
	But this cheating in elections have, I mean, my goodness, I don't even think, I think we all admit it going back to 1960, right?
	That 1960 election.
	Oh, but it's not the issue is mayor.
	It's going to happen again.
	Well, let's hope it doesn't happen.
	It's not good.
	It's going to happen this time.
	The question is, can we do it?
	Can we, can we catch it?
	Which is what we had to do every other, every election we've won, we've beat the cheat.
	2016, Trump beat the cheat.
	2000, W beat the cheat.
	Um, all of a sudden, I mean, in 2012, I remember, I, I remember 2012 being in college and everyone would talk about how Detroit, the vote came late with Romney, right?
	I'm not saying Romney was going to win Michigan over Obama, but they, they certainly, Well, they had a chance is what they had to do in Detroit to make sure that didn't happen.
	And so, um, I'm afraid that we're, we, we're not doing enough to actually stop the cheating.
	I think we are.
	I think we are, but let's keep doing it.
	I don't want to, I don't want to arrest.
	I want you to get out there and also things can start coming up.
	You haven't thought of, we're pretty much carrying, we're pretty much carrying a, a blueprint of what happened.
	It's sort of operating off that, but these guys are sharp enough.
	And crooked enough to use something else as a way to, as a way to get around this, which is really, which is really horrible.
	Horrible.
	Absolutely.
	And so we're, we're multitasking.
	If they end up doing that.
	Horrible.
	Horrible.
	So we're multitasking here, you know, with the show here, but we're also keeping up to date with everything happening with Elon Musk's planned big Twitter interview tonight with President Trump.
	It has, uh, it's been, Put on hold, uh, the company X is currently dealing with a, uh, attack on their, essentially what is an attack on their servers.
	And they're hopeful to get it resolved.
	Elon Musk says the plan is to, uh, go forward with this interview, but if they can't, uh, they will go forward with a smaller audience and then they'll post that interview, uh, for the rest of us to see.
	Is anybody listening?
	Is it worth my talking or should I be sitting here?
	We're on Twitter.
	I should sit here and smile.
	No, we are on Twitter.
	Our Twitter live has been up for quite some time.
	We've been back on now for... I'm against fracking.
	Yeah.
	And unfortunately, I mean, look, and we're getting a big audience.
	We actually are getting, it appears a number of people coming over to us while we wait for President Trump.
	I made a terrible mistake.
	Today I was told to be forefracking.
	That's right.
	So let me tell you that.
	Today I'm forefracking.
	I mean, I mean, no.
	You have to learn, Kamau, you have to learn how to say that, like, straight, straight declarative sentences.
	I am forefracking.
	Oh, but that's not right.
	You mean you're not forefracking?
	No, no, that's not right to say it that way.
	Two defenders.
	I mean, I could, I may have to change my mind tomorrow.
	And exactly, do you understand what fracking is?
	Oh, yes.
	Fracking is when you put a frack in the ground and you frack it out.
	And then when it all comes out, you learn it so that people can go around.
	But that's it.
	Wait for the tree to fall.
	And you.
	Well.
	I don't know, so it is delayed.
	You would do a massive cyber attack is what we're hearing.
	You know, you probably could limit that, Ted, to just a few people that are capable of that kind of a cyber attack on one of the most sophisticated channels in the world, right?
	Right.
	Right.
	They spend millions and millions of dollars a year trying to cure that invasion problem.
	Yep.
	And they can't do it.
	So you're calling it a DDoS attack, and for those like me who may not be as technically savvy, a DDoS attack is a Distributed Denial of Service, so that's the DDoS, right?
	Distributed Denial of Service attack.
	It's a cybercrime that involves flooding a server with internet traffic to prevent users from accessing online services and site.
	DDoS attacks are a type of attack that originate from more than one source.
	The multiple sources of traffic make it harder to distinguish between attacker traffic and legitimate traffic.
	So DDoS attacks are often more effective than single source attacks because they generate more traffic and it's harder to basically find out what's the good traffic and what's the nefarious traffic.
	Is that what's happening right now?
	Yes.
	So look at it as like a Look at it as a massive freeway, interstate, right?
	Highway.
	And you have all these cars going down the highway.
	That's the normal traffic, internet traffic.
	And when it gets so busy, it clogs up and stops, right?
	Like a traffic jam.
	So a DDoS attack, they're infiltrating the highway with a bunch of nefarious, let's say, let's call them, you know, bad cars.
	But they're mixed in with the regulars.
	So it's harder now to defend against this and to beat it out and get us back on line.
	Right, right.
	Because they don't know if it's me listening or the nefarious individuals.
	So if this is the case, I guess we shouldn't be surprised and be curious to see who's doing this.
	But it is, again, it's a way, it's just, There's going to be a lot of questions here.
	Almost shouldn't have announced it in advance, but then you shut down your audience when you do that.
	You hold down your audience.
	And lots of people who want to see it don't get to see it or hear it.
	This is all audio, right?
	Yep.
	All audio.
	And so, you know, look, it's just going to give, it's the typical, you know, they'll get to make hay from this.
	Those that want to criticize the president.
	And of course, Seems like a pretty simple explanation.
	An attack, right?
	An attack took this thing out.
	But people will... but the left, right?
	The left's going to claim victory.
	Oh, look, they can't get this right.
	But that's going to be... that's going to ring hollow, right?
	I don't think this is in the long run.
	I think obviously what happened with With Ron DeSantis, it was a larger issue because he kind of chose to do this kind of new, he wanted to be cutting edge, right?
	And he was going to do this new thing, announce on X. And that flopped.
	But again, was it a DDoS attack?
	Look back at it.
	I'm not sure what they put that up to, but here today we have another attack and it'll just give, you know, it'll give them some fodder, our opponents, but in the long run, I can't imagine this.
	Being anything of consequence, what do you think, Mayor, I guess?
	Oh, it's going to help Trump.
	I mean, when you're attacked by hackers, it helps you.
	It's going to make it even more obvious that these people have driven up a high danger of him, a high danger to him, and they don't really give a damn.
	Look at the way they protected him the last time out.
	If the Secret Service can make another mistake, they go back and do it.
	I mean, these people are I mean, they're just, they're bloodthirsty in more ways than one.
	We're hearing, I'm hearing Elon's voice here, so.
	Oh, put it up.
	Let's put it on, right?
	I think we might have it here, Mayor.
	So we're going to bring it up.
	The space might just now be going live.
	Let's see if we can get it here.
	We'll put it up.
	We want to hear if they're actually into it and what they say about this.
	So we're going to get over there and we'll play some of this interview here.
	My understanding is that it's just begun.
	Okay.
	We're waiting to hear it.
	I tell you what, we'll take a short break and when we come back, hopefully we'll have it on for you.
	I don't know, maybe we have it on right now?
	Yeah.
	Let's hear it.
	Donald, great to speak.
	We had a great conversation yesterday.
	As you mentioned yesterday, if we could just record that conversation and post it, it would have been excellent.
	I hope we can have something like that today.
	Well, I think we will.
	I'm pretty sure we will.
	And congratulations, because I see you broke every record in the book with so many millions of people.
	And that's an honor.
	We view that as an honor.
	And then you do want silencing of certain voices.
	Usually those are voices that have something to say that are constructive, oftentimes constructive.
	And so we have to consider it an honor.
	But congratulations on breaking every record in the book tonight.
	Great.
	Well, thank you.
	Well, maybe we could start off with, I mean, the assassination attempt, which was an incredible thing.
	And I have to say that your actions That assassination attempt were inspiring.
	You know, you, instead of shying away from things, instead of ducking down, you were pumping your fist in the air and saying, fight, fight, fight.
	And I think that's, I mean, you know, the President of the United States represents America.
	And I think that is, that is America, that is strength under fire.
	And so that's, you know, a big, you know, part of the reason I didn't know I had that much blood.
	to endorse you as the President of the United States for having enough time here.
	That was just incredibly inspiring, but I mean, what was it like for you?
	Not pleasant.
	Not pleasant?
	I had, there was blood, I had people, I didn't know I had that much blood.
	The doctors later told me that the ear is a place that is a very bloody place if you're gonna get it.
	But in this case, it was probably the best alternative you could even think about.
	Went at the right angle and, you know, it was a hard hit.
	It was very, I guess you would say surreal, but it wasn't surreal.
	You know, I was telling somebody you have instances like this or like a lot less than this where you feel it's a surreal situation.
	And I never felt that way.
	I knew immediately.
	That it was a bullet.
	I knew immediately that it was at the ear.
	Yeah.
	And because it, you know, it hit very hard, but hit the ear.
	And I also heard people shout, bullets, bullets, you know, get down, get down.
	Because I, you know, I moved down pretty nightly, pretty quickly.
	And we had bullets flying right over my head after I went down.
	So I'm glad I went down.
	The bigger miracle was that I was looking in the exact direction of the shooter.
	And so it hit, it hit me at an angle that was, Far less destructive than any other angle.
	So that was the miracle.
	That was, for those people that don't believe in God, I think we got to all start thinking about that.
	You have to, uh, you know, I'm, I'm a believer now.
	I'm more of a believer, I think.
	And a lot of people have said that to be a lot of great people have said that to me actually.
	But it was, uh, it was amazing that I happened to be turned just at that perfect angle.
	And, uh, All because I put down a chart on immigration that showed that the numbers were so great.
	I love that chart.
	Maybe it's a sign.
	Maybe that's a sign, Sam.
	You highlighted a serious issue at that moment.
	You highlighted a serious issue at that moment.
	I'm here to hear of it, but Mr. Durhead.
	Well, the amazing thing is that the sign, I said, bring down that sign on immigration.
	And it was literally about an eighth of a second where it would be good.
	And after that, it was going to be a disaster no matter which way you were facing.
	But it just had that perfect angle, which was exactly at this shooter.
	Very sad situation.
	Such a sad situation.
	You know, we lost somebody that was a great choreographer, a firefighter, a great gentleman, a great trumper.
	It was just a fantastic family and a fantastic man.
	A friend of mine came up, Elon, and said, I'd like to give the family some kind of help.
	And I said, that's great.
	He said, do you mind?
	I said, I don't mind at all.
	And he wrote out a check for a billion dollars, gave it to the wife.
	And, you know, she said, this is really nice, but I'd rather have my husband back, which is a nice thing for somebody to say, to be honest.
	She's great.
	The family is great.
	And we raised a lot of money for them and for two other gentlemen who are unbelievable people also.
	They were hit really badly.
	They thought they were not going to make it and they did.
	The doctors in the Butler area, I tell you, they were incredible.
	They saved the two and they were really hit tough.
	Both of them.
	Equal.
	And we thought, my first question was because I heard bullets flying over me.
	I said, how many people were killed?
	We had a massive crowd there.
	Tremendous.
	Yeah.
	Thousands and thousands of people and there was no land.
	I mean, it was just, it was all people, but how many people have been killed?
	Because I knew there were other shots being fired.
	And they said, uh, we don't know yet, but some people have been badly hurt.
	Sniper, they call them or sharpshooter, but sniper, because he didn't know there was a problem.
	Uh, he's been, he's an extraordinary shot.
	Obviously.
	And he didn't know there was a problem and he was able to pick it all out within five seconds.
	And he used one bullet from very far away.
	I get probably about 400 yards.
	The shooter was one 30, but it was on the, he was on the opposite side of the field and the podium.
	And he saw the, the smoke and the flame from the gun immediately recognized it and immediately took a shot.
	And it was one.
	Perfect shot from very far away.
	And if he, if he didn't do that, Elon, he would have, I mean, if he would have, a lot of people, a lot more people have been, could have been badly hurt and killed.
	So I have to take my hat off to him because that's also a surreal.
	You know, he's been with them for 23 years and he's never had anything like this.
	And all of a sudden he has to act and it's a tough thing to act and to be shooting somebody.
	But he saw the, uh, He saw the gun, saw the smoke, saw the flame from the gun.
	Very far away.
	Obviously, he's got very good vision, which I assume you don't have in that particular work.
	But he took aim very quickly, and they say it was approximately five seconds from long range, one bullet.
	And that didn't happen because the shooter had a lot of bullets.
	He had a lot of cartridges up there with him.
	Well, I mean, that's clearly, you know, he was very competent in taking that side to stop the attempted assassination.
	But that does seem to be, I mean, some pretty significant failings elsewhere in the system.
	There's just no way that, like how on earth does...
	I think most people are still wondering how on earth could such a thing happen.
	Well, you know, I view it as two ways.
	There should have been nobody on the roof.
	There were people, because there were many tens of thousands of people there.
	There were people that were seeing him.
	And there was one woman with a red shirt and a purple veil, and she was screaming.
	That guy's got a gun!
	You know, he's probably dead.
	I guess, I mean, for my part, I think probably many members of the public are wondering how the heck are, you know, basically people wondering by pointing out there's a guy on the roof with a gun.
	Yeah.
	They're seeing it, but somehow it's not being addressed.
	That does seem crazy.
	Well, they're going to learn from this.
	The communication between the local police, who sort of had an idea.
	And then ultimately, a man lifted himself up to the roof, could barely do it because he was pulling himself up.
	And he saw the man with the gun.
	The man with the gun pointed the gun at him.
	He thought he was probably going to get shot.
	But, you know, he was like pulling himself up.
	And because of that, he couldn't get to his gun.
	And he fell down, actually very badly hurt his leg, his ankle, I hear very badly, but he fell down.
	And he did, you know, from what I understand, he did say... We are going to take our leave so that you can listen to this.
	I think it's more important to hear the actual words of the president.
	I think it forces the students to go maybe quicker.
	You know, it's supposed to be very discreet.
	My sons, Don and Eric, they can't believe what happened.
	But they hit it from 130 yards.
	A bad shot would hit that target almost every time.
	They said it's like indulging in a two-foot putt.
	Yeah, it's not a tough shot.
	It's not a long shot.
	God bless the people of Israel.
	Let's hope they're spared.
	God bless the people of the United States.
	So you know, it was a terrible thing.
	Look, it's hard.
	I have to say this about the Secret Service.
	When I went down and, you know, I went down based on, I think, their screaming, but other people also, because people saw this happen.
	You know, you had so many people.
	One of the miracles was that nobody ran.
	I mean, if a gun goes off, the crowd control people showed us this.
	When guns go off, and it does happen in stadiums at a soccer match or some kind of a match, everybody flees.
	They call it a stampede, like cattle.
	And a lot of people get killed with those stampedes.
	We had more people than you'd have at, you know, some of these matches or these games.
	And nobody left.
	You know, you had a small group behind us in the grandstand, and that was full.
	And you look at it as it was taking place.
	Normally, they'd be running.
	They didn't leave.
	They saw that I was hurt.
	They saw a lot of blood.
	And they saw that I went down.
	And it's almost like they wanted to be with me.
	Well, out front, you had thousands, tens of thousands of people.
	As far as the eye could see, you had people in Butler.
	As far as the eye could see.
	And a lot of press, too.
	It was, you know, many cameras on watching this.
	It's what makes it so different, because normally things happen that aren't good.
	But you never have a picture of it.
	Here we have all these cameras shooting it.
	So, you know, sort of amazing.
	But one of the interesting things was that you didn't have anybody flee.
	You didn't have anybody stampede.
	Nobody.
	And there were some people behind me.
	They stood up and they're looking like, you know, I mean, I say you want to have you want to have them in a foxhole with you.
	I want to meet some of those people because it's so different from what you heard.
	So I was down.
	But the Secret Service guys, there were bullets flying right over my head.
	You could hear them go whizzing.
	And these guys came jumping on top of me.
	And a young lady, Kate, would jump.
	They moved so fast.
	And let me tell you, that took tremendous courage.
	Now, there was a lack of coordination.
	Obviously, everybody understands that that building should have been covered.
	Yeah, I mean, looking at the aerial views, that building would be like the number one spot for a sniper.
	I mean, it's like, if you were to pick, like, what is the favorite place?
	So if the goal is to assassinate, what's your favorite spot?
	That building.
	You're right.
	That building would be number one.
	That would have been the spot.
	It's like, you can ask for a better location.
	No, that would have been the spot.
	You know what people think is when the local policeman, who by the way, you know, he really Uh, he did what he was supposed to do.
	He couldn't hold on any longer.
	And then when he got his head just peeking above, this guy standing there with a gun at his head.
	And when he fell down again, hurt his ankle very badly, but he was making the calls.
	But what happened is the firing took place very soon.
	So what they think is that this guy ran to his site, which he had all planned out with a gun.
	Uh, he ran to the site and he started shooting fast and maybe that's why He, uh, well, he sort of missed.
	I mean, you know, he, uh, could have been a much bigger problem, but he totally would have hit if you hadn't turned your head.
	So like, you know, there was a, It was a very near thing.
	It was a miracle.
	If I hadn't turned my head, I would not be talking to you right now, as much as I like you.
	Exactly.
	I would not be talking to you.
	We'd be talking to you from another realm, perhaps.
	Yeah, that's right.
	We'd be talking from a different place.
	But it was a very terrible experience.
	The Butler Hospital, they did such a great job.
	The doctors were so good.
	Everybody was so good.
	There was a mistake.
	If somebody knew because people were hearing that, you know, there was just a bad feeling that there was somebody was around, you know, that story now it's been.
	Yeah.
	And if somebody could have said, because they've oftentimes said, you know, like there'd be a lightning storm or something, because I've done, I think over 300.
	I think I did a lot more than that, but we did a lot.
	And oftentimes they'll say, sir, could you wait 10 minutes, please, sir?
	Could you wait 20 minutes?
	There's a storm overhead or lightning or something.
	Right.
	And that happens often.
	And this would have been a perfect time for that to have happened, but it didn't get coordinated.
	That was the problem.
	Well, it was your, I think, your actions in the heat of fire and, you know, like what
	I find honorable there was that you can't fake bravery under such circumstances.
	The courage is instinctual or it is not.
	It's not a rehearsed action.
	And so I just want to say that I think a lot of people admire your courage under fire there.
	And yeah.
	So thank you very much.
	I appreciate it.
	I don't think I didn't think of it.
	I just want to get up and I want to stand up.
	I want to let people know, you know, I felt I was good when when they were On top of me, covering me actually, very much covering me and very bravely, but I wanted to get up.
	I said, I want to get up and they wanted, you know, they had, they have everything there.
	They have, they wanted to stretch you.
	I didn't like the stretcher and I knew I was hit in the ear, but I knew I wasn't hit anywhere else.
	They felt I was hit someplace else.
	It was such a lot of blood and they were sure that I was hit someplace else.
	And they were saying, sir, you, You were hitting more than the year.
	I said, Nope, I was hit in the year.
	I want to get up.
	Let me get up.
	And so we I got up.
	And the crowd didn't know what to think.
	I mean, this was so, so many people and they did you could see they were confused.
	They didn't know what to think.
	And I wanted to let them know I was okay.
	It was very important for me to let them know that.
	And they went wild.
	You've seen the after they didn't go wild when I got up because they didn't know, was I alive?
	You really couldn't tell when I stood up before the hand, before the, you know, the fist in the air, uh, they didn't know if I was alive.
	Nobody did.
	And, uh, when I put the fist up, they were, they were just relieved and happy and thrilled.
	And the place went crazy.
	It was pretty amazing.
	It was a terrible thing, but it was incredibly moving.
	Yeah.
	Well, and I mean, speaking of the the sort of slide that got you to turn that save your
	life really was the illegal immigration slide.
	Maybe this is worth talking about that.
	It was it was that slide.
	That slide says illegal immigration saved my life.
	You're right.
	I mean, that's that's a great one.
	It's saved by legal.
	You know, the the incredible thing, though, when you talk about the odds, you had to be
	exactly at that angle.
	But but.
	The incredible thing is that the chart, I used it less than 20% of the time.
	It was just a moment.
	It's always on my left, never my right.
	And it's always at the end of the speech.
	So here we have it.
	It's on the right, not the left.
	It's at the beginning, not the end.
	And even the people that put it up, they were unprepared and they did a great job.
	They got it up immediately, fortunately.
	But I looked to the right and the bullet came whizzing by, hitting my ear.
	So, it was amazing, but when you think of the odds of that, and, you know, that normally you wouldn't use it, normally I wouldn't have the thing, and then, you know, it would have been a very different story.
	It's very much, I say, an act of God.
	It's a miracle that it happened, and I'm honored by it.
	I'm honored by it.
	Well, what were you about to say about illegal immigration before you were rudely interrupted?
	Well, I was going to say how good the numbers were.
	By the way, we're going back to Butler and we're going to go back in October.
	We're all set up and the people are fantastic in Butler.
	It's a great area.
	These are incredible people.
	Like the three that in the case of Corey killed and the other two, the families, I got to know them a little bit.
	Families are great.
	But we're going back to Butler.
	And I think I'll probably start by saying, as I was saying, prior to being so horribly interrupted, but... Yeah, so rudely interrupted by an assassination attempt.
	No, but the chart... Some people have no manner.
	Elon, the chart was just a chart that in my last week, we had the best Illegal immigration numbers, meaning stopping.
	It was at the lowest.
	You've seen the chart.
	It's become quite a famous chart.
	But that was the lowest point ever recorded.
	It was a really, I mean, I was very proud of those numbers.
	And then you see what happened with these people.
	Kamala and Joe, you see what happened.
	They just let it go.
	I had remain in Mexico policies.
	I had all these different policies that was so good.
	Guys like Tom Holman and Brandon Judd from Border Patrol.
	These are all people that they've been on television.
	They say it's the best numbers we've ever had.
	We had so many different checks.
	Catch and release in Mexico, not the United States.
	We had catch and release in the United States.
	We had it in Mexico.
	We had so many things.
	Things where if people, many people come in there, they have contagious diseases.
	We had everything passed.
	If you have a contagious disease, I'm sorry, but we can, we cannot allow you into the country.
	So we were setting literally records and, uh, I, all I was doing is showing that and I, I use it sometimes.
	And in this case, I'm glad I used it.
	I can tell you that, but, but there were fantastic numbers, but I'm going to sleep with that chart always.
	I'm going to, I'll be sleeping with that chart.
	That chart was very important.
	Very important.
	For a lot of reasons.
	I mean, would it be accurate to say that you're supportive of legal immigration, but we obviously need to shut down illegal immigration, and especially unvetted illegal immigration.
	And that's not the same as saying that everyone who's an illegal immigrant is bad.
	I think most people who are illegal immigrants are actually good, but you can't tell the difference unless there's a solid betting of who comes across the border.
	Does that actually represent your position?
	I say it very simply.
	They have to come in legally.
	They have to be checked.
	Kamala was the border zone.
	Now she's denying it.
	Everything that I do, she's saying she was strong on the border.
	We're going to be strong.
	Well, she doesn't have to say it.
	She could close it up right now.
	They could do things right now.
	It's horrible.
	No tax on tips.
	And all of a sudden she's making a speech and saying there will be no tax on tips.
	I said that months ago.
	And by the way, they had just the opposite.
	You know, they had not only tax on tips, but they hired 88,000 IRS agents.
	And many of them were assigned to go get waitresses and caddies and all of this on tips.
	They have a policy.
	They had a policy.
	They were really going to go after you.
	And we're really harassing people horribly.
	And then all of a sudden for politics, she says, you know, she comes out with with what I said, which I think is terrible.
	And I think it's also hitting them very hard.
	These people are fake.
	Now they're also saying they did a good job in the border.
	We had the worst numbers in the history of the world, not of our country.
	There's never been a country in history that has had a catastrophe like this.
	We've had, I believe, and I think you believe this too, you know, you hear 12 million, 13.
	I believe it's over 20 million people came into our country, many coming from jails, from prisons, from mental institutions, or a bigger version of that is insane asylums.
	And many are terrorists.
	And I'll tell you what, they're coming not just from South America, they're coming from Africa, they're coming from all over the world.
	They're coming from Asia.
	They're coming from the Middle East.
	They're coming from countries that are stupidly and horribly bombing Israel, October 7th.
	They're coming from all over the world.
	And you know, you look at, it's so sad, October 7th, because it should have never happened.
	It's so sad when you look at Ukraine, it should have never happened.
	We have a defective government.
	These are defective people, and they're not people that should be running it.
	But where you see it the best is the border, because you have millions of people coming in a month, and then she gets up and she tries to pretend like She's going to do something.
	She had three and a half years.
	And by the way, they have another five months that they can do something, but they won't do anything.
	It's all talk.
	He's incompetent and he's incompetent.
	And frankly, I think that he's more incompetent than he is.
	And that's saying something because he's not too good.
	Yeah, no, I think it is essential to have a secure border.
	I mean, you're really not a country unless you have a secure border.
	And secure elections.
	Absolutely secure elections.
	And so it's just essential to have a real border or we can't function as a country.
	And our services, you know, our central services are being overwhelmed in a lot of cities.
	But as we were talking about earlier, I think having a legal immigration process that is Smooth and efficient and done well, and I you know speaking as someone who is a legal immigrant And I think that that I mean like one way to think of it is who do you want on your team?
	You know who like who do you want on Team America, and and I think we want to just say okay.
	We we want to let in people who are gonna you know be great contributors to our society and to our economy and and You know, and who do you want on the team?
	And it's, and it's not to say that, like, in my opinion, actually, I'd say, like, probably most of the illegal immigrants actually are actually good, hardworking people.
	That's my opinion.
	But some are not.
	And you just have this sort of adverse selection process where, you know, if somebody's, you know, if somebody's like, you know, It has a career in in theft or robbery.
	I don't understand what's taking them so long to get here Because we're such a target rich environment I mean, you know, why don't they want more people who have a career in?
	You know bad things coming here sooner because it's I mean, it's a piece of cake to go Rob you know has in LA or New York compared to other parts of the world and And in a lot of places in America, if you try to stop the person who's robbing you, you'll be arrested.
	It's right.
	I mean, what's happening with crime?
	And our police are so good, but they're not allowed to do their job.
	But I have to tell you, Elon, I hate to say it because it's such a downer to say it.
	I hate to say it.
	I hate it.
	But you have a lot of people that just shouldn't be.
	I think it's a much bigger number than you think.
	They're allowing people from their jails.
	And if you were running one of these countries, where they're coming from, you would have had all of them.
	As an example, Venezuela, their crime is down 72%.
	They're taking their drug dealers.
	They're taking, frankly, their prisoners.
	They're emptying out their prisons.
	They're taking their criminals, their murderers, their rapists, and they're delivering them into- That's what Castro did.
	Yeah, well, he did, on a much smaller scale.
	Much smaller scale.
	But this is a massive scale because this is being done worldwide.
	But here's what's happening.
	Crime all over the world is down.
	And wait till you see the numbers that we have.
	You know, this is migrant crime.
	This is crime that's going to be.
	And I saw it today in New York where somebody was knifed, where they raped the girlfriend of a man that stood there watching in New York in one of the shelters.
	And started pulling out the knives and bad things happened today.
	But this is happening every day.
	These are rough people.
	These are people that are in jail for murder and all sorts of things.
	And they're releasing them into our country.
	And they're telling them, if you come back, we're going to kill you.
	We're going to give you the death penalty or kill you.
	So they don't want to come back.
	But these are rough people.
	These are criminals that make our criminals look like nice people.
	And it's horrible what they're doing.
	And she's in charge of it because, you know, now she's trying to say she had nothing to do with it.
	And she's such a liar because she was called the Border Czar the first day and it was on the headlines of every newspaper.
	She's the Border Czar.
	And she never even went there.
	She went to one location which had nothing to do with where the problem is.
	You know, she went in and out, I guess, because she was getting a lot of pressure.
	Yeah, yeah.
	Had nothing to do with the problem.
	Yes.
	But she was the border czar.
	And you people can't allow them to get away with their disinformation campaign.
	Now she's trying to say that she wasn't she wasn't really involved.
	And the whole thing is horrible.
	She was totally in charge.
	She could have shut the border down without him.
	He didn't know what he was doing anyways.
	He wouldn't have even known what happened.
	You could shut the border down.
	He wouldn't even know the difference.
	But the fact is that she was, borders are, but you don't have to call her that.
	The fact is you could just call her.
	She was in charge of the border and the border was the worst ever.
	It's simply not working.
	No, it's horrible.
	Whether it's by, whether it's by, whether it's a question of, of intention or competence, either way, we don't have a secure border and we have, People streaming over like it looks like a World War Z zombie apocalypse at times.
	And, you know, sometimes you gotta sort of wonder, like, is it real or not?
	So I, you know, cause you see things and you're like, is it real?
	So I went to the border at Eagle Pass and I saw for myself in Texas and I was like, okay, it's real.
	I'm like seeing this in real time.
	I actually posted the video like just live.
	I just, I just flew there one day and just to see, Hey, is this, is this, is this made up or real?
	And I'm just seeing people stream across the border and um, And I have to say, you know, at least the people I saw did not look friendly.
	You know, so people can look at my video and say, you know, these people look friendly.
	I don't look super friendly.
	These are people that Elon would not be the same man if he had to walk across the street and look these people in the eye.
	These are rough people.
	These are really rough people coming across.
	And I know rough people.
	And these are people that we don't want in our country.
	And, you know, the caravans are coming in, and they're putting... And who's doing this?
	The heads of the countries.
	And you would be doing it, and so would I. And everyone would say, oh, what a terrible thing to say.
	The fact is, it's brilliant for them, because they're taking all of their bad people, really bad people.
	And I hate to say this, the reason the numbers are much bigger than you would think is they're also taking their non-productive people.
	Now, these aren't people that will kill you.
	We have enough of them.
	But these are people that are nonproductive.
	They are just not productive.
	I mean, for whatever reason, they're not workers or they don't want to work or whatever.
	And these countries are getting rid of nonproductive people in the caravans in many cases.
	And they're also getting rid of their murderers and their drug dealers and the people that are really brutal people.
	And they're coming into our country at levels that have never been seen before.
	And I saw an ad just before I got on the air.
	I'm walking over here.
	And I saw an ad by Kamala saying how she is going to provide border security.
	Where has she been for three and a half years?
	For three and a half years?
	Yeah, no, no.
	We have 20 million people.
	It's terrible.
	Yeah, I think this, frankly, I think this is a fundamental existential issue for the United States.
	And if we have another four more years of open borders, and it's going to be even worse with another four more years, It's going to be even worse than it's been for the past three and a half years.
	I'm not sure we've got a country.
	You don't have a country.
	Elon, if they get in, you will have 50 to 60 million people from all over the world, not South America only.
	You know, we think of South America, we think of Honduras and El Salvador, Guatemala.
	And Mexico, you know, the four.
	But it's not that.
	It's everywhere.
	They're coming in from everywhere.
	And I had to stay in.
	Yeah, I think this is a this is a super important point.
	Like people, it's like, well, basically, when I went down there, I was like, well, where are people from?
	It's like it's like almost no one was from Mexico.
	No, Mexico.
	It's just it's just it's just the border.
	It's just the border with Mexico.
	But the people coming in, it's it's it's Earth, the rest of Earth.
	And America is is only You know, about four or five percent of the population of Earth.
	It would only take a few percent of the rest of Earth to overwhelm everything.
	We're already overwhelmed.
	We're overwhelmed.
	You had to see the news tonight about New York, New York.
	And I love that place and what they're doing to it is horrible, what they're doing to it.
	And all the courts do is they try and focus on Trump.
	OK, then let's focus on Trump, who did nothing wrong.
	I complain about a rigged election.
	Elon, what's happened is unbelievable.
	You have, from Africa, from the Congo they're coming, from the Congo, and 22 people came in from the Congo recently, and they're murderers, and they're dropped, they drop them, they take them out of jails, which is very expensive, you know, to maintain the jails, although they don't do too much maintaining, I can tell you.
	They take them out of jails, prisons.
	They take them out and they bring them to the United States.
	They deposit them in the United States and say, don't ever come back or you're going to be executed.
	And they don't want to come back, but they won't come back.
	But they're coming from Africa.
	They're coming from Asia.
	They're coming from the Middle East.
	They're coming from South America.
	They're coming from everywhere.
	And there are a lot of really bad ones.
	It's just an everywhere on earth thing.
	And it's just not possible for the United States to absorb You know, everyone from Earth or, you know, even a few percent of the rest of Earth.
	It's just not possible.
	We're going to finish this up.
	We're going to have the largest deportation in history of this country.
	And we have no choice.
	Otherwise, we're going to have a country.
	What did what they've done to our country?
	Think of it with with, you know, in Venezuela and in some of these other countries, crime is down 50, 60, 70, 80 percent.
	Yeah.
	And you would be the same.
	Yeah.
	You would have, you would have.
	I'll tell you what, Venezuela has not gotten rid of all of them.
	They've gotten rid of about 70% of their really bad people.
	Their jails are about 50% put into the United States.
	Same with other countries.
	Some are at 30%, some are at 50%.
	They're all different.
	But the bottom line is they're all going to be at 100%.
	Why wouldn't you put 100% of it?
	And they're doing it right now while this third rate phony candidate, don't forget,
	I beat, I beat Biden.
	He failed in the debate miserably.
	And you know, some people said, oh, gee, it's too bad.
	It's too bad he did so badly.
	Or I did well in the debate.
	You know, the first night they said, well, I'm going to do it.
	Wow.
	One of the people at CNN said, that was the greatest debate performance I've ever witnessed.
	And then two days later, they didn't talk about that.
	They just said he was bad, but that's okay.
	That's the way I get treated.
	And I don't mind that at all.
	What I can tell you is this.
	We cannot have a Democrat.
	We cannot have her.
	She's incompetent.
	She's as bad as Biden in a different way.
	He hasn't done an interview since this whole, uh, Let's get this scam started and say what you want.
	This was a coup.
	This was a coup of a president of the United States.
	He didn't want to leave and they said we can do it the nice way or we can do it the hard way.
	Yeah.
	I mean, they just took him out back behind the shed and basically shot him.
	Oh, what they did with this guy.
	And I'm no fan of his.
	And he was a horrible president, the worst president in history.
	And one of the reasons he was so bad, first of all, the Israeli attack would have never happened.
	Russia would never have attacked Ukraine.
	And we'd have no inflation.
	And we wouldn't have had the Afghanistan mess, if you think of it.
	And we wouldn't have had Afghanistan.
	But think of it.
	You take a few of those events away, and we have a different world.
	We would also have no inflation.
	Inflation was caused by oil.
	Yeah.
	I think you make an excellent point here, which is that when other countries are thinking about invading or doing bad things, When they're thinking about that, they're thinking about, okay, what's the American president going to do?
	And do they fear the American president?
	Or is there someone they do not respect and do not fear?
	And I think they do, they would, they would rightfully be.
	I mean, but, you know, look at that, the President Trump is like, don't mess with me.
	I mean, that's like, whereas I think people are not going to be, and they obviously have not been at all intimidated by, by Biden, and they certainly will not be intimidated by Kamala.
	And you have to really think about in the context of global security.
	Um, that's, that's, that if the, if the American president is someone, someone that, like, you know, evil dictators are scared of, that makes a huge difference to the security of the world.
	So I had a good relationship with Putin despite the Russia, Russia, Russia hoax that lasted for over two years, just a hoax created by Hillary Clinton and, uh, Adam Shifty Schiff, some just bad people, you know, just sick people, frankly.
	I mean, Schiff, Schiff is a sick person.
	He's going to end up probably being a senator.
	It's hard to believe.
	The whole thing is hard to believe.
	But, you know, they put our country in danger with that stuff, too.
	They actually, when they make up stories and you have to fight your way out of it for a long time.
	But I know Putin very well.
	I got along with him very well.
	He respected me and it's just one of those things.
	And he would, we would talk a lot about Ukraine.
	It was the apple of his eye.
	But I said, don't ever do it.
	Don't ever do it.
	You know, I shut down Nord Stream 2.
	That was the big oil pipeline, the biggest, I think the biggest pipeline in the world going all over Europe.
	I shut it down.
	Biden came and then they say, I, you know, I was, I loved Russia.
	I was a friend of Putin and I loved Russia.
	He actually said to me one time, he said, if you're my friend, I'd hate to see you as an enemy.
	I shut down his pipeline, the biggest pipeline.
	They were looking at that fund.
	And this, this pathetic president gets in there.
	And the first thing he did, one of the early things he did is he shut down, he shut down Keystone XL pipeline, which is our pipeline that would have employed 48,000 people, pipeline workers.
	He shuts it down.
	That was, you know, a massive job that Obama refused to allow.
	I allowed it in my first week because it was jobs and it moved oil.
	And by the way, in a much more environmentally friendly way, it's underground.
	It's not a truck that catches on fire or a train that catches on fire.
	But think of it.
	He shut down the XL pipeline, the Keystone XL pipeline.
	He shuts that down and he approves the Russian pipeline.
	Yeah, it doesn't make any sense.
	It's like, it's inconsistent.
	Certainly.
	But I mean, I think it's just worth emphasizing to listeners, the immense importance of whether the United States President is intimidating or not intimidating, and how much that matters to global security.
	Because there's some real tough characters out there.
	And if they don't think the American President is tough.
	They will do what they want to do.
	I know every one of them.
	And that puts the whole world in danger.
	Elon, I know every one of them and I know them well.
	I know Putin.
	I know President Xi.
	I know Kim Jong Un of North Korea.
	I know every one of them.
	And let me tell you, people will say, oh, this is terrible.
	He said, I'm not saying anything good or bad.
	They're at the top of their game.
	They're tough.
	They're smart.
	They're vicious.
	And they're going to protect their country, whether they love their country.
	They probably do.
	It's just a different form of love.
	But they're going to protect their country.
	But these are tough people at the top of their game.
	And when they see a Kamala or when they see Biden, Sleepy Joe, they can't even believe it.
	They can't believe this happened.
	All the stuff that you're seeing now, all the horror that you... Look at Israel.
	They're all waiting for an attack from Iran.
	Iran would not be attacking, believe me.
	You know, when I was there, and I say it with respect, because I think we would have been good with Iran, I don't want to do anything bad to Iran, but they knew not to mess around.
	Iran was broke, because I told China, if you buy from Iran oil, it's all about the oil, that's where the money is, but if you buy oil from Iran, you're not going to do any business With the United States.
	And I meant it.
	And they said, we'll pass.
	They didn't buy oil.
	Other countries, likewise, you want to buy, you're not doing business with the United States.
	And they were at a point where they had no money for Hamas.
	They had no money for Hezbollah.
	They had no money for any of these instruments of terror.
	And it was amazing.
	In fact, there were articles when I was leaving, which is hard to believe actually, Especially when you look at what's happened to our country.
	Our country is so bad right now.
	It's such a different place.
	We were respected.
	Think of it.
	Four years ago, we were so respected, to a point where, when I said, don't buy oil, they didn't buy oil.
	But they had no money, and Israel would have never been attacked.
	Zero chance.
	And again, I said to Vladimir Putin, I said, don't do it.
	You can't do it, Vladimir.
	You do it, it's going to be a bad day.
	You cannot do it.
	And I told him things that what I do and he said, no way.
	And I said, way.
	And you know, it's the last time we ever had the conversation.
	He would, he would never have done.
	I got along well with him.
	I hope to get along well with him again.
	You know, getting along well with them is a good thing, not a bad thing.
	I got along well with him.
	When I met with president Obama just before entering, you know, it's a sort of a ritual.
	And I sat down with him and we talked.
	It was supposed to be for a very short period of time.
	It turned out to be a long period of time.
	I said, what's the biggest problem?
	He said, North Korea.
	I had that problem worked out very quickly.
	It was nasty at the beginning with Rocket Man and, you know, all the different things.
	Yeah. All of a sudden I got a call.
	Those were some epic tweets, by the way.
	Yeah, they were.
	No, they were epic, everything.
	He said that he has a red button on his desk.
	I said, I have a red button on my desk, too, but my red button is much bigger and my red button works.
	And then I called him Little Rocket Man of Little Rocket Man.
	Anyway, here's the bottom line.
	All of a sudden, I got a call from him and they said they want to meet.
	They want to meet me.
	And we met.
	Yeah.
	As you remember, we met in Singapore.
	We met also in Vietnam.
	And I got along with him great.
	We were in no danger.
	But President Obama thought we were going to end up in a war, a nuclear war with him.
	And let me tell you, he's got a lot of nuclear stuff.
	He's got plenty of nuclear.
	He can do plenty of damage.
	Yes.
	I mean, it's because, you know, I mean, people like Kim Jong Un, they respond to strength, not weakness.
	He and I had a good relationship.
	Remember I met him and we walked onto his land.
	Nobody ever walked onto his land before.
	I walked onto his land.
	I wouldn't say, let's bring up Secret Service again, I wouldn't say they were thrilled when I did that I walked onto his land.
	And it was an amazing period.
	But we were not in danger with him because of me.
	You know, I always say that We have enemies on the outside and we have enemies on the inside.
	We have some really bad people in our government.
	And people that are, and controlling of the people.
	I mean, I mentioned names, but I don't, I really don't want to give them the credit, but we have some really bad, and I say they're more dangerous than Russia and China.
	If you have a smart president, a president that gets it, we are not in danger from those countries because they need us and they need our help.
	I mean, we forced Obama, if you think about it, Obama and Biden, And Bush to a certain extent, in all fairness, forced Russia and China together.
	And if you're a history student, the first thing you learn is you cannot let Russia and China align.
	But then they also got, if you take a look, Iran, and they have North Korea.
	That's, you know, they call it the axis of evil.
	In the old days, you had the axis of evil.
	Here we have a modern day axis of evil.
	These are Powerful countries, very heavy nuclear, which is the biggest threat.
	You know, the biggest threat is not global warming, where the ocean is going to rise 1 1 8th of an inch over the next 400 years.
	The big and you'll have more.
	You'll have more oceanfront property, right?
	The biggest threat is not that the biggest threat is nuclear warming.
	Because we have five countries now that have significant nuclear power, and we have to not allow Anything to happen with stupid people like Biden, you know Biden Did something with Russia There was no chance of him ever going in and when I left and then then after I left they started forming Big armies on there on the border with Ukraine, right?
	And I looked at that and I thought he was doing that because Putin's a good negotiator I thought he was doing that to negotiate but then Biden started saying such stupid things.
	For instance, he said that It can be a NATO country.
	Now, Russia, for as long as there's been NATO, has said, we're never going to agree to that.
	And we go right up front and say that.
	And we did things and said things through this president with a low IQ, very low IQ.
	He had a low IQ 30 years ago, by the way, but now he might not even have a IQ at all.
	There is no, there's nothing on the board that goes as low.
	He said things that were so stupid That war would have been, that war had zero chance of happening if I were there.
	Zero chance.
	He was saying everything the opposite.
	Everything the opposite.
	And it's so sad because many more people have been killed in Ukraine than you read about.
	You don't read about how bloody it is and how desert.
	Hey look, just in the two armies you lost a half a million people.
	And Ukraine's having a hard time.
	Ukraine, I don't know if you saw the article recently and it's true, you don't hear the true story.
	If you think about it, Russia's gone, you know, Russia defeated Germany with us, and they defeated Napoleon.
	You know, they've been around a long time.
	They're a big fighting force.
	And it's very unfair.
	And Ukraine now doesn't have enough men.
	They're now using young men and very old men to fight.
	And we're in a very bad position.
	And I'm not going to blame exclusively, but I can tell you I could have stopped that and a smart president could have stopped that.
	It wouldn't have happened.
	But we had we had a man that actually made it.
	It made it more prevalent.
	It was so bad.
	The words that he was using.
	The stupid threats coming from a stupid face that he was using.
	I said, this guy's going to cause us a war.
	He's going to cause this.
	And let me tell you, it can lead to World War Three.
	That can lead to World War Three.
	The Middle East can lead.
	We have numerous places that could end up in a World War Three right now.
	For no reason whatsoever.
	I think you're right.
	I think people underrate the risk of World War III.
	When looking at the risk of global thermonuclear warfare, it's game over for humanity.
	It's something that people have, I think, after the end of the Cold War, people have become complacent about, but they actually have forgotten that there are currently a lot of nuclear missiles And one of the things we're going to do is we're going to build an Iron Dome over us.
	You know, Israel has it.
	We're going to have the best Iron Dome in the world.
	We need it.
	And we're going to make it all in the United States, but we're going to have, we're going to have protection because it just takes one maniac to, you know, start something.
	We're going to have protection and we're going to have, why shouldn't we have an Iron Dome?
	Israel has one.
	Some other places have one that nobody even knows about, frankly.
	But Israel has it.
	We're going to have an Iron Dome.
	But, you know, with all of that being said, to me, that's so important, the most important.
	But with all of that being said, the election is coming up and the people want to hear about the economy and the fact that they can't buy groceries because they don't have enough money to buy groceries.
	The inflation has killed them.
	Food prices are up 50, 60, even 100 percent in some cases.
	And this stupid administration allowed this to happen.
	And it's a shame.
	And that's the thing that people most care about, in my opinion.
	They care about the border a lot, and we discuss the border at great length.
	It's nice to have a forum like this where I can discuss something at length.
	And by the way, do you think Biden could do this interview?
	Do you think that Kamala could do this interview?
	They would take a pass on you.
	No, they could not.
	They don't need Elon.
	They don't need Elon.
	Screaming out questions.
	It's pretty sad when you think that somebody that does this for a living can't answer a question or is afraid to do an interview.
	And in her case, with a very friendly interview, she's got all friendly interviewers.
	It's pretty sad.
	Yes, absolutely.
	But the big thing now is the economy, Elon.
	And as much as, I mean, I view nuclear as the single most important thing, but a lot of people don't understand that.
	But it doesn't have to.
	If I understand it, that's all you need, because if I was president, You're not going to have that kind of a problem.
	But the thing that they really is making them angry is what Kamala and Biden have allowed to happen to the economy.
	It's a disaster with inflation, the inflation.
	It doesn't matter what you make.
	The inflation is eating you alive.
	If you're a worker or if you're a just a middle income person, you can't afford, you know, four years ago, five years ago, people were saving a lot of money.
	Today, they're using all their money and borrowing money just to live.
	It's a horrible thing that's happening.
	And we'll end that quickly.
	Yeah.
	A lot of people just don't understand where inflation comes from.
	Inflation comes from government overspending, because the checks never bounce when it's written by the government.
	So if the government spends far more than it brings in, that increases the money supply.
	And if the money supply increases faster than the rate of goods and services, that's inflation.
	So really, we need to reduce our government spending and we need to re-examine.
	I think we need a government efficiency commission to say, like, hey, where are we spending money that's sensible?
	Where is it not sensible?
	And we need to live within our means.
	We're currently adding, I think, a trillion dollars to the deficit every It's interest.
	I rebuilt our military.
	Largely rebuilt our military.
	And the interest payments on the national debt have now exceeded the defense budget.
	It's on the order of a trillion dollars.
	Its interest.
	And it keeps growing.
	I rebuilt our military, largely rebuilt our military.
	Did a great job on it, which was so important.
	You know, we had jets, we had fighters that were, uh, and bombers that were 70 years old.
	And we, we did a great job in that.
	Then we, by the way, then we gave 85 billion of it back to Afghanistan.
	If you can believe it, we gave them 85 billion that, you know, they're one of the largest sellers of military equipment in the world.
	They're selling what we gave them.
	That was one of the most embarrassing days in the history of our country.
	But, uh, if you think about go, let's go back to the, uh, the economy.
	We have to bring energy prices down.
	Energy started it.
	The price of gasoline... Now, your cars don't require too much gasoline, so you have a good... And you do make a great product, I have to say.
	I have to be honest with you.
	That doesn't mean everybody should have an electric car, but these are minor details.
	But your product is incredible.
	But the gasoline, Elon, is the cost of energy.
	Not only gasoline, it's the cost of heating your house and cooling your house.
	That has to come down.
	It's gone up a hundred percent, a hundred and fifty and two hundred percent.
	And that has to come down when that comes down.
	And we're going to drill baby drill.
	You know, they stopped drilling and then they went back to drilling because they went back to the Trump policy.
	But if they won the day after they get into office, we're going to this country will go out of business because they're going to go to an energy policy that's not sustainable, wind and different things.
	You're not going to have anything.
	And I know you're a big fan of the AI.
	And I have to say that AI, and this is shocking to me, but AI requires twice the energy that the country already produces for everything.
	So you're going to have to build, we're going to have to build a lot of energy if our country will be competitive with China, because that's our primary competitor for this on the AI.
	You're going to need a lot of electricity.
	You're going to need tremendous electricity.
	Almost double what we produce now for the whole country, if you can believe it.
	Sure.
	Well, just going back to this basic thing, which is that people try to make it sound complicated, but it's not, but inflation is caused by government overspending.
	Would you agree that we need to take a look at government spending and have perhaps a government efficiency commission that Just look, tries to make the spending sensible.
	And so the country lives within his means, just like just like a person.
	Waste is incredible.
	And it's nobody negotiates prices.
	You used to have a lot of people making jets and you end up with two companies and they'll probably try and merge at some point.
	I mean, I went through it.
	Like Air Force, just a thing like Air Force One.
	One of the first documents they asked me to sign in general, I said, sir, would you please sign this document?
	What is it?
	Air Force One.
	That's with Boeing, which is basically two planes, two 747s.
	And the price was $5.7 billion for two planes.
	Now they're highly sophisticated.
	They're even nicer than your plane.
	Okay.
	But much more sophisticated.
	They're very, I won't say what's on it, but they got a lot of stuff on it anyway.
	But it's 5.7.
	That's a crazy number.
	It's a crazy number.
	But I said, I'm not going to pay 5.7.
	I'm not going to do it.
	I said, who made the deal?
	Obama and his people.
	I said, well then I know the deal's no good.
	I'm not going to do it.
	And over a course of about four weeks, by my saying, I'm not going to do it.
	I got the price reduced by $1.6 billion for the exact same plane.
	Other than we had a nicer paint job, if you want to know the truth, but for the exact same plane, I got, I saved one.
	And I said to Boeing, man, you guys must make a lot of money if you can reduce the price by that.
	But now what I do here is that they're going back to the.
	Biden administration and wanting big cost overruns, you know, because they see these
	dopey suckers in there and they'll end up getting some of the money back.
	But I shaved it by one point six billion dollars for the exact same plane.
	And you can now take that and multiply that out times thousands of other items.
	Not like the numbers are astronomical.
	I agree with you.
	Well, I mean, if so, so I mean, I mean, I think it would be great to just have a government
	efficiency commission that takes a look at these things and and just ensures that the
	taxpayer money to the taxpayers, hard earned money is spent in a good way.
	And I'd be happy to help out on such a commission.
	I'd love it.
	If it were foam.
	Well, you, you're the greatest cutter.
	I mean, I look at what you do.
	You walk in and you just say, you want to quit?
	They go on strike.
	I won't mention the name of the company, but they go on strike and you say, that's okay.
	You're all gone.
	You're all gone.
	So every one of you is gone.
	And you are the greatest.
	You would be very good.
	Oh, you would love it.
	But you know, if you look at Argentina... Well, I'd be happy to help out.
	By the way, congratulations.
	I just looked at the number of people that are listening to you and I chat.
	We'll call it a chat.
	But congratulations.
	This is very good.
	I mean, it's great.
	And you're an interesting character.
	You know, the new head of a place called Argentina, And he was, he's a big, you know, he's great.
	And he's a big MAGA fan.
	You know that he ran on MAGA and he took it to an extreme too.
	He ran on MAGA and I hear he's doing really a terrific job.
	It's called make Argentina great again.
	It worked out perfectly.
	He came in, they bought a lot of hats he brought over, but he's, he's doing a big job.
	He really cut.
	And I'm hearing they're starting to do pretty well.
	Inflation's getting down, you know, they had like 2000% and they had inflation like Like not normal inflation.
	They had the real deal.
	But we're going to have that pretty soon.
	We have, I think we have the worst inflation we've had in a hundred years.
	They say it's 48 years.
	I don't believe it.
	I think we have the worst.
	They don't include a lot of the items that should be included.
	You know?
	Yeah.
	Well, it's, it's, it's, it's just from, from government overspending and not just not spending taxpayer money effectively.
	And having, you know, just so many departments, you can't even name them all.
	And what Malay is doing is, you know, he's cutting government spending, he's simplifying things, he's putting in regulations that make sense.
	And Argentina overnight is experiencing a giant improvement in prosperity.
	But it's also a lesson for the United States, which is that Argentina used to be one of the most prosperous countries in the world, you know, in the 30s, 40s.
	And because of bad government policy, it ruined the country.
	And if you take Venezuela, for example, Venezuela should be incredibly prosperous.
	They have phenomenal reserves of everything, oil, everything.
	And it should be prosperous, but if the government's wrong, it impoverishes the people.
	And so I think we should not be complacent in the United States in thinking that and taking our prosperity for granted, because if with bad government policy, we can run the country into the ground.
	And that's just something people should bear in mind.
	Don't take prosperity for granted.
	Well, think of education.
	So we're ranked at the bottom of every list of the top 40.
	We're ranked number 40, number 38, Norway, Uh, Switzerland, Sweden, different countries are ranked good.
	Actually, China is pretty close to the top.
	There are top six or seven, but we're ranked at the bottom, almost at the bottom 38, 39, 40.
	In other words, horrible.
	And yet we spend more per pupil than any other country in the world.
	So we spend more.
	And what I'm going to do, one of the first acts, and this is where I need an Elon Musk.
	I need somebody that has a lot of.
	Strength and courage and smarts.
	I want to close up Department of Education, move education back to the states where states like Iowa, where states like Idaho, you know, not every state will do great because states that basically aren't doing good now.
	You look at Gavin Newsom, the governor of California.
	Yeah.
	He's terrible. He does a terrible job. So he's not going to do great with education.
	But of the 50, I would bet that 35 would do great. And 15 of them, or,
	you know, 20 of them will be as good as Norway.
	You know, Norway is considered great.
	You can name them.
	I mean, just they're so good.
	Some of these countries are so good.
	But if if you go into some of these really well run states, you know, we have states that don't know what debt is.
	We have states that are have low taxes, no debt.
	Everybody work.
	You know, they're really well run.
	And maybe they have certain advantages in terms of location, in terms of, you know, the land or the sun, the sun and the water and the whole thing.
	You know, there are a lot of advantages that some people have.
	But if you moved education back to the 50, you'll have some that won't do well, but you'll have, but they'll actually be forced to do better because it'll be a pretty bad situation.
	But if you think about it, you'll have some of these states, I'll bet you'd have 30, 35 states.
	It'll be much better.
	And you know what it'll cost?
	Less than half.
	Well, yeah.
	it is in Washington.
	And these people don't care about students in these faraway states.
	And it would be unbelievable.
	I think you're making a good point in that if each state has to compete against other
	states, then people will naturally move to states where it's better.
	Well, like California, you know, as we said, it's a badly run state.
	I could go through, I got so many friends that are in those states, even if they're Democrats, I hate to mention certain states, but Illinois is badly run with Pritzker.
	He's a real loser.
	But, you know, some of these places are just Badly run, but you know, it's almost gonna force them to
	run better and they won't do a good at initially But but can you're not gonna do worse than you're doing
	right now?
	And I would say the cost you would cut your cost by 50 or 60 percent and you'd have a little monitor
	You know, you want to make sure they're teaching English as an example, you know, give us a little English, right?
	Sure.
	Right.
	No, but I mean, I mean, some of these governors are doing so badly.
	I mean, they got so many people moving out of their state, they should they should get U-Haul Salesman of the Year Award because they're driving so much U-Haul.
	It's actually amazing.
	People move it out.
	Isn't it amazing to you as a businessman that They can even survive.
	Like Illinois, so many people are leaving, and you wonder, how do they survive?
	I mean, how do they survive?
	I saw where you left California and you moved to Texas.
	Texas does a great job.
	But, you know, I mean, I just wonder, how do these states survive when big businesses, a big oil company just left California, as you know, and they moved to Texas?
	How do these big states survive when they lose so many businesses?
	And their taxes are already really high.
	You know, their taxes are among the highest taxes.
	You almost wonder, how do they, how do they continue on?
	And in many cases, the governors don't do a good job and they're crime ridden places.
	You wonder, how do they continue to just go on?
	It's, it's not, it's not a good situation.
	I mean, I think the thing that's, the only thing that's going to force some of these states to change is if they risk bankruptcy and they're not getting bailed out by the federal government.
	Right.
	You remember the area in California where they had that where I guess somebody had sticky fingers and they stole a lot of money and they went into a form of chapter and it was very nasty for a period of time but now it's probably the most popular place in all of California so so you know you at some point Something like that may have to happen.
	But the problem is you can't penalize people that loan money to the state when you have incompetent people like a Pritzker.
	Look, the family didn't want him in the family business.
	And then he ends up being governor of Illinois.
	So, you know, what is he going to be?
	Is he going to be a great governor?
	And, you know, you have people I could name every one of them.
	I got to know every one of these.
	And some are very good and some are just horrible.
	Well, I think that, I mean, the larger point here, as you're saying, a lot of people are concerned about the economy, a lot of people are concerned about inflation.
	And inflation is effectively a tax on people that save money and for people that are working day-to-day.
	It's just a form of taxation.
	And if we can solve the government spending problem, we'll solve the inflation problem, which means people will have a better standard of living, and that's a really big deal.
	Well, the people that got hurt worst are the people that did it the way they were taught to do it all through, you know, their younger life and their young life and their whole life.
	The people that saved money and then they got no interest on their money and inflation destroyed them.
	And frankly, they were almost better off if they didn't do anything like that.
	I mean, those people have been absolutely decimated.
	And we're going to bring those people back and help those people.
	We've got to get the prices down.
	You know, when I look at bacon costing five, four or five times more than it did a few years ago, when, when you look at some of the food products and groceries, those people go, they can't believe it.
	They used to be able to buy a whole cart and today, you know, a lot of people just don't have the money.
	They go in and they can't buy anything.
	They, they look at, it's sticker shock.
	They call it sticker shock, right?
	I think it really just comes down to two things, which is that if you solve government overspending, you solve inflation, which improves living standards of the average person.
	And then if you deregulate, like have sensible regulations, because a lot of the regulations are nonsensical and cause the cost to be extreme for no reason, Um, and, but unless you've got effective deregulation, like Reagan did, did a great job on deregulation in the 80s, but it's been 40 years since we hadn't had anyone really.
	I mean, during your administration, we made some progress, but I think, uh, the opportunity to make, I think, radical progress with sensible regulation.
	Um, and, and if those 2 things, yeah.
	Those are the big deals.
	We set a record.
	We did more deregulation and more restrictions on all of the different businesses than any other president.
	Remember, I had the rule for every one we put in, you have to get rid of 10 or 12.
	And we did radical cuts on all of that.
	And a lot of that's being put back by this administration.
	And we did radical cuts on things that weren't necessary.
	But we were all set.
	You know, we had the best economy.
	Ever maybe in the world.
	And then what happened is COVID came in and we had to focus on that and nobody knew what it was.
	And I always say I got good marks on economy, good marks on military.
	We knocked out ISIS.
	We did so many different things.
	We rebuilt.
	But you know, I never got.
	the credit that we really deserved on what we did with COVID.
	We never got the credit.
	But we were, if had that not happened, a gift from China, from Wuhan, came in from Wuhan,
	the Wuhan labs, and I always said it and it turned out to be right.
	But had that not, had that not happened, we were set to start reducing deaths.
	We were going to reduce taxes further.
	I gave the largest tax cuts and we were going to reduce taxes still further for middle income people, not only businesses.
	But we did it for businesses because they're the ones that, that's why we had the great job numbers.
	But we were set to really start reducing debt.
	And, you know, we were sitting on the biggest pile of liquid gold anywhere in the world, bigger than Saudi Arabia, bigger than Russia.
	And we were going to drill and we were going to make so much money.
	We were going to supply Europe with oil.
	I had stopped the Russian pipeline and we were going to supply them with oil and gas.
	We were going to, we were going to make a fortune.
	And then, uh, the COVID came in and we had a, we really had to divert.
	Then what happened is when they came in, you know, we, we kept a lot of businesses alive.
	If I didn't do what we did, we would have had a 1929 type depression.
	But the problem is when Biden came in, He got trillions of dollars and just started spending it stupidly.
	You didn't need it anymore.
	You know, we got over that bad period where it was everybody was dying and, you know, it was it was just not a good period.
	Interestingly, you know, during his administration, many more people died during his administration of COVID than during my administration.
	And we really got the brunt of it.
	But people don't realize more people died during his administration Than ours, but it diverted us from doing what I wanted to do.
	But we had the greatest for, you know, almost three years.
	We had the great, and you know that probably better than anybody.
	So many of your friends said to me, the best years we've ever had in business were during the Trump years.
	And, and also said that, uh, African-American, uh, Hispanic American were so incredible.
	They were having the best Asian American women, men.
	Young people without a diploma, young people that graduated from the best colleges, from MIT, from the Wharton School, from all of the great colleges, Harvard.
	They were doing better, and people without a diploma were doing better.
	And everybody was happy.
	And then COVID came, and we had... The problem is they spent trillions and trillions of dollars.
	They wasted.
	They shouldn't have taken any money, and we wouldn't be having inflation right now, which is killing our country.
	Yeah, yeah.
	Yeah, absolutely.
	I mean, I should probably say something about, like, you know, maybe my views on climate change and oil and gas, because I think it's probably different from what most people would assume.
	Because my views are actually pretty, I think, moderate in this regard, which is that I don't think we should vilify the oil and gas industry.
	And the people that have worked very hard in those industries to provide the necessary energy to support the economy.
	And if we were to stop using oil and gas right now, we would all be starving and the economy would collapse.
	So it's, you know, I don't think it's right to sort of vilify the oil and gas industry.
	And the world has a certain demand for oil and gas, and it's probably better if the United States provides that than some other countries.
	Um, and it would it would help with prosperity in the US.
	Um, and at the same time, obviously, my view is, is, like, we do over time want to move to a sustainable energy economy because eventually you do run out of I mean, you run out of oil and gas.
	It's not there.
	It's not infinite.
	Um, and there is there is some risk.
	I think it's not the risk is not as as high as.
	You know, a lot of people say it is with respect to global warming, but I think if you just keep increasing the possible million in the atmosphere long enough, eventually, it actually simply gets uncomfortable to to breathe.
	People don't realize this.
	If you go past 1000, possibly a million of CO2, you start getting headaches and nausea.
	Um, and so we're now in the sort of 400 range.
	We're adding, I think, about roughly 2 parts per million per year.
	So, I mean, still gives us so what it means is, like, we still have quite a bit of time.
	Um, but but so there's not, like, we don't need to to rush and we don't need to, like, stop farmers from farming or, you know.
	Prevent people from having steaks or basic stuff like that.
	Leave the farmers alone.
	I agree.
	How crazy is that where you have farmers that are not allowed to farm anymore and have to get rid of their cattle and the whole world is a little crazy.
	But it's largely taken its lead from us.
	I do say, though, I've heard in terms of the fossil fuel, because even to Create your electric car and create the electricity needed for the electric car.
	You know, fossil fuel is what really creates that at the generating plants.
	And, you know, so you sort of can't get away from it at this moment.
	I mean, someday you might be able to.
	But I do hear we have anywhere from 100 to 500 years left.
	You know, much of it hasn't even been found yet.
	Yeah.
	But there are tremendous, like ANWR.
	I got ANWR in Alaska approved.
	Ronald Reagan couldn't do it.
	Nobody could do it.
	Everybody tried.
	Nobody could do it.
	I got it approved.
	The first thing that Biden did was unimprove it, to get rid of it.
	He ended it.
	His secretary went in and she ended it.
	And what a disgrace.
	That's Anwar.
	That's bigger or they think it could be bigger than Saudi Arabia in Alaska.
	Could be bigger than Saudi Arabia.
	But they went in and they terminated it.
	And I'll get it going very quickly because not only is it big for Alaska.
	I mean, you talk about economic development.
	That for the United States, I mean, that is, they say, bigger than Saudi Arabia or the same size and pure, really good stuff.
	And, you know, they end it.
	So I think we have, you know, perhaps hundreds of years left.
	Nobody really knows.
	But during that time, something will come around that will be very good.
	Yeah.
	Well, I mean, my estimate would be, you know, a little more aggressive than that, but it's not the sort of like we're all going to die in five years.
	Stuff that that's obviously BS.
	But my view is like, if you just look at sort of the past 1,000,000 that increments every year, you know, you get sort of 2 or 3 past 1,000,000 every year of CO2.
	I mean, I think.
	Some of that it's problematic if it accelerates, if you start going from 2 or 3 to say, 5, and then there may be some situations where you get to a step change, increase in the CO2.
	And I think we don't want to get too close to 1,000 ppm because that actually makes it uncomfortable to breathe.
	Just existing in 1,000 ppm CO2 is uncomfortable.
	That's considered an industrial hazard.
	You know, that's that's actually start getting headaches and stuff.
	So it's even without global warming.
	It's not it's not comfortable.
	So you don't want to get too close to that.
	But I mean, I think we've got I think we want to just move over.
	And if if I don't know, 50 to 100 years from now, we're we're I don't know, mostly sustainable.
	I think that'll probably be OK.
	So it's not like the house is on fire immediately, but I think it is something we need to move towards.
	And on balance, it's probably better to move there faster than slower.
	But like I said, without vilifying the oil and gas industry and without causing hardship in the short term, I think this can be done.
	People can still have a stake and they can still You drive gasoline cars and it's okay.
	I don't think we should vilify people for it, but I think we should just generally lean in the direction of sustainability.
	And I actually think solar is going to be a majority of us energy generation in the future, and it's certainly trending that way.
	And so you get the solar power, combine that with batteries, because obviously the sun doesn't shine at night.
	And then you use that to charge the electric cars, and you have a long-term sustainable solution.
	And that's what Tesla's trying to move things towards, and I think we've made a lot of progress in that regard.
	But when you look at our cars, we don't believe that environmentalism, that caring about the environment, should mean that you have to suffer.
	So we make sure that our cars are beautiful, that they drive well, that they're fast, You know, sexy.
	I mean, they're cool.
	In fact, literally, I mean, the sexy joke, Model S, Model 3, Model X and Y spells out sexy.
	It's probably the most expensive joke out there.
	But I, you know, I just, I don't know, I like cheesy humor, you know, so.
	But I'm a big fan of like, let's have an inspiring future and let's work towards a better future.
	And we can do so without demonizing people.
	Right.
	I'm OK.
	You know, it's very interesting.
	You use the word global warming and today they use the word climate change because, you know, you have some places that go up and so they were getting themselves in a little trouble with the word global warming because not every place is warming.
	Some places are going the opposite direction.
	Uh, you know, I'm sort of waiting for you to come up with solar panels on the roofs of your cars and on the trunks of the cars.
	And it just seems like something that at some point you will come up with.
	I'm sure you'll be the first, but it would seem that a solar panel on, on the roof, you know, on flat surfaces on certain surfaces might be good, at least in certain areas of the country where you have the, or the world where you have the sun.
	But I would, I would think, and I have no idea because that's not my world, but I would think that this would be something that would be interesting.
	But, you know, the one thing that I don't understand is that people talk about global warming or they talk about climate change, but they never talk about nuclear warming.
	And for me, that's an immediate problem because you have, as I said, five countries where you have major nuclear and, you know, probably some others are getting there.
	And that's very dangerous.
	That's where you need a strong American president, because you just you don't want to have this proliferation.
	You have five countries and getting more.
	You know, China is much less than us right now, but they're going to catch us sooner than people think.
	They're way lower.
	Russia and us are number one.
	And we were sort of tied.
	And China is far behind.
	But they're developing at a level that, you know, you're not surprised to hear very fast.
	It's going to they'll end up catching up, maybe even surpassing.
	But to me, the biggest problem is not Climate change, it's not, and everything's, you know, a problem, but to me the big problem is the nuclear power.
	The power of nuclear is so great.
	And when I talk about, I'll prevent World War III, I will, but the truth is that you have to, because this is no longer army tanks going back and forth and shooting at each other.
	This is a level of destruction and power that nobody's ever seen before.
	Yeah, actually, there's the bad side of nuclear, which is nuclear war, very bad side.
	But there's also, I think, nuclear electricity generation is underrated.
	Absolutely, you're right.
	And it's actually, you know, people have this fear of nuclear electricity generation, but it's actually one of the safest forms of electricity generation.
	It's just a huge misunderstanding.
	And if you look at the injuries and deaths caused by say, I mean, I'm not trying to pick on coal mining, but just any kind of mining operation.
	And there's a certain number of injuries and deaths per year.
	And you compare that to nuclear, nuclear is actually way better.
	So it's underrated as an electricity source.
	And I think it's something that's worth reconsidering.
	But there's so much regulation that people can't get it done.
	So that, you know, maybe they'll have to change the name.
	The name is just, it's a rough name.
	There are some areas like, like when you see what happened in Japan, where they say you won't be able to go on the land for about 3000 years.
	Did you ever see that?
	You know, um, no, it has a branding problem.
	You know, when you see what happened, when you see what happened in Japan, where they
	say you won't be able to go on the land for about 3000 years.
	Did you ever see that?
	And in Russia, where they had the problem, where they, you know, the, there's a lot of
	bad things happened and they have a problem.
	And they say that in 2000 years, people will start to occupy the land again.
	You know, you realize it's pretty bad, but it's actually not that bad.
	So like after Fukushima happened in Japan, like people were asking me in California, you know, are we worried about like a nuclear cloud coming from Japan?
	I'm like, no, that's crazy.
	It's, it's actually, it's not even dangerous in Fukushima.
	I actually flew there.
	And ate locally grown vegetables on TV to prove it.
	And I donated a solar water treatment, a solar powered system for a water treatment plant.
	Yeah, but you haven't been feeling so well lately and I'm worried about it.
	No, no.
	I'm only kidding.
	It's fine, you know.
	It's like, you know, Hiroshima and Nagasaki were bombed, but now they're like full cities again.
	So it's really not something that, you know.
	So it's not as scary as people think, basically.
	Yeah.
	Let's see.
	I mean, I mean, are there some other topics we should touch on?
	Oh, you know, like lawfare.
	I think, you know, we need to be concerned about what they've done to this country.
	Obviously.
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	Well, we just won the big case in Florida.
	This was a Biden administration did something that's never been done in this country.
	And that's go after their political opponent, me.
	With this nonsense and just nonsense and the big case in Florida, we won.
	But they've always they always pick a judge and a jury and they use local DAs.
	They use the local attorney generals like Fani, you know, Fani spelled F-A-N-I Fani.
	And it's all a big hoax.
	And it's all run from there.
	Like in Manhattan, the one of the top people from the Justice Department went in, ran Manhattan, ran the state.
	The Letitia James deal was run by a person from the Department of Justice, Biden.
	They've never done this before.
	And they set up a very bad precedent.
	It's called lawfare, warfare.
	It's a terrible thing and never happened in our country.
	It does happen in banana republics and third world countries, but it's never happened.
	And the incredible thing is it actually drove my numbers up because people see, you know, fortunately I have a platform.
	Like you or, you know, in all fairness, like a conversation like this, where I can talk about it and people understand.
	I mean, you, you fight for election integrity and you end up getting indicted because you're fighting for election integrity.
	And when the day comes that you can't fight for election integrity, you don't have a country anymore.
	So what happens, what happens is they, when after their political opponent, me, now Biden's, you know, Close to vegetable stage, in my opinion.
	Okay.
	I looked at him today on the beach and I said, why would anybody allow him?
	The guy could barely walk.
	Why would anybody allow him?
	Does he have a political advisor that thinks this looks good?
	Uh, you know, he thinks this looks good because it looks so bad and it's, it's ridiculous.
	I mean, and he's been doing that for a long time.
	You know, he can't lift the chair.
	The chair weighs about three ounces.
	It's meant for children and old people to lift.
	And he can't lift it.
	The whole thing is crazy.
	I mean, it's clearly like we just don't have a president.
	You don't have a president.
	And he's going to be worse than him because he...
	Is a San Francisco liberal who destroyed San Francisco and then as Attorney General, she destroyed California.
	You talk about location and we're talking about the sun and the water and all.
	There's nothing better than California.
	She has destroyed that.
	She was the original DA.
	She was the original in San Francisco.
	She was the original Attorney General in California.
	What she has done to California is, well, you know better than I do.
	You just left California for a lot of those reasons.
	And what he's done with crime, with cashless bail, where you kill somebody.
	I mean, we have states there, you kill somebody and they let you out right away.
	I mean, you don't have to even put up and then they never find the people unless they kill again and then they let them out again.
	Our country is becoming a very dangerous place, and she is a radical left San Francisco liberal, and now she's trying to protect, now she's looking like she wants to be more Trump than Trump, if that's possible.
	I don't think it's possible.
	But she wants to be more Trump than Trump.
	I want a wall.
	She wants to release all the prisoners that are in detention, and some of these guys are really bad.
	That just came out today.
	She doesn't want to build the wall, even though the walls work.
	Walls and wheels.
	You know, in your business, everything you do is obsolete.
	Well, not the tunnels, but everything is obsolete.
	Even your rocket ships.
	Like a month later, they're obsolete.
	You find a better way to... The only thing that's not obsolete is a wall and a wheel.
	And the wall, you know, I built hundreds of miles of wall, and that's why we had such good numbers.
	I was going to add 200 miles.
	We bought it.
	We could have flipped it up in three weeks, and they sold it for five cents on the dollar.
	That meant, I said, wow, that means that they actually do want to have open borders.
	She wants to have open borders, and now she's going like she's tough on the border.
	It's such a lie.
	Yeah, this is simply not true.
	This is simply not true.
	No, and everybody knows it's not true.
	It's a disgrace that she can say it.
	No, I mean obviously what's happening sort of overnight is they're rewriting history and making Kamala sound like a moderate when in fact she is far left, like far far left.
	Worse than Bernie Sanders.
	She is considered more liberal by far than Bernie Sanders.
	She's a radical left lunatic and if she's going to be our president, Very quickly, you're not going to have a country anymore.
	And she'll go back to all of the things that she believes in.
	She believes in defunding the police.
	She believes in no fracking.
	Zero.
	Now all of a sudden she's saying, no, I really want to see fracking.
	If they got in, the day she got in, she'll end fracking.
	And by the way, if people didn't think that, the lunatics that really believe in that, they won't vote for her.
	Like, like the Palestinians and Israel.
	She is so anti-Israel, and she's bad for both.
	Biden actually did something that was impossible.
	Both sides hate him.
	You know, both sides.
	That was a hard thing to do.
	Unification.
	Yeah, no, no.
	I mean, I mean, you know, Netanyahu came to give a talk to a joint Senate and House sitting, and I was there, and Kamala stood him up.
	You know, what does that say?
	I think it's highly disrespectful.
	And I say, if you're a Jewish person, or if you believe in Israel, if you're a person that, you know, is very pro-Israel, if you vote for her, it's worse than Biden.
	And Biden was bad.
	But if you vote for her, you ought to have your head examined.
	And you see tonight, I mean, as we're doing this, I'm seeing reports coming that they expect an attack tonight or tomorrow from hundreds and maybe thousands of rockets.
	You know, their Iron Dome, as they call it, as we all call it, but their shield that they built, that can be swamped.
	We'll use the term that's appropriate, swamped.
	But they swamp it by shooting enough missiles.
	You know this better than anybody.
	By shooting enough missiles, they can't defend themselves.
	You know, they just obliterate the whole place.
	And that's what some people think they're looking to do.
	And we have no leadership.
	There's no respect for the United States of America with these people.
	And I'm telling you, you'll be worse than him because he's a believer in being radical left and he wasn't.
	I think you're right.
	I mean, it really is important for the public that may be listening to this to say, to look at Kamala's track record, you know, before the last like month.
	And say, is that a track record you agree with?
	And I think if you're an independent moderate, you definitely would not agree with it.
	Because it is, her behavior has been far left.
	And we're seeing just an overnight propaganda attempt to rewrite history and make it sound like Kamala's moderate, when she in fact is not moderate.
	Well, her running mate approved, signed into legislation, tampons in boys' bathrooms, okay?
	Now, that's all I have to hear.
	Tampons in boys' bathrooms.
	And that means she believes in that, too.
	I mean, she picked this guy because he was the closest to her.
	A lot of people thought she'd pick sort of the opposite, but she picked an anti-Israel, radical left person.
	But she is far worse, they say, than Bernie Sanders.
	If we have her as a president, if we have a Democrat at this moment as a president, I don't think our country can survive.
	I think we're in massive trouble, frankly, with the Kamala administration, and that's my honest opinion.
	And I think really it's essential that you win for the good of the country this election.
	I'm just stating my opinion.
	Now, you may have seen this, but I got a letter from the Well, I know the European Union very well.
	like saying, you know, to not have disinformation on, like, during this discussion that we're
	having, like, and, you know, there's like, there's a lot of attempts to do censorship
	and to force censorship, even on Americans from other countries. And, you know, what
	do you think about that?
	Well, I know the European Union very well. They take great advantage of the United States
	in trade, as you know. We, through a different forum, NATO, we protect them.
	And yet, if you build a car in the United States, you can't sell it in Europe.
	You just can't sell it.
	It's impossible.
	The same thing with our farmers.
	Our farmers find it very difficult to do business.
	You know, we have a deficit with them of $250 billion, which people don't know.
	It sounds so nice, the European Union, but let me tell you, they're not as tough as China, but they're bad.
	And I let them know it.
	And that's probably why they notified you.
	No, they don't treat our country well.
	We defend them, you know, with Ukraine.
	So we're in for $250 billion, and they're in for about $71 billion.
	And they have the same size.
	If you add up the European nations in terms of an economy, it's about the same size, wouldn't you say, as us.
	And they're in much greater risk.
	They're right there.
	We have an ocean separating us from In this case, the enemy would be Russia.
	Used to be for the Soviet Union, but let's assume they're close enough.
	What happens is they're in for 70-something million, I think even less than that, billion, and we're in for about 250 billion, and it could be a lot higher than that.
	And I say, why aren't you going to equalize?
	Why aren't they paying what we're paying?
	And they're in much more, you know, they're, it's much more important for them because of the fact that, you know, they're right near there.
	I mean, they were all sort of in that location.
	We're not, but they should, they should.
	And I did it with NATO.
	We were, there were only seven countries that were paid up in NATO out of 28 at the time.
	The United States was subsidizing, the United States was subsidizing NATO, tremendously subsidizing NATO.
	And I said, I went in and I said, you got to pay up.
	If you don't pay up, we're not going to defend you any longer.
	I took a lot of heat, but you know what happened?
	Billions and billions of dollars came flowing in.
	And yeah, I think, I think a lot of the public isn't, isn't aware of the fact that the United States pays a disproportionate share of, of the NATO expenses.
	And then we can take advantage of on trade.
	So think about it.
	I mean, the point of NATO is defending Europe.
	And it's, you know, it's like, OK, well, why?
	Why is the United States paying disproportionately more to defend Europe than Europe?
	That doesn't make sense.
	That's unfair.
	And that that is an appropriate thing to address.
	Well, you know, when you talk about cost cutting and savings and everything else, I mean, honestly, look, there's nobody that feels worse about the Ukraine situation than I do, because I know it would have never happened.
	I know Zelensky.
	He was very honorable to me, because when they went with the Russia hoax, and they said I had a phone call with him, he said it was a perfect phone call.
	It was a great phone call.
	He could have grandstanded and, you know, said, oh, he was very threatening.
	He said, no, it was a very nice phone call.
	I called him up to congratulate him on his win, and you end up getting impeached, because these people are lunatics.
	You know, I was talking about the difference from the people within and the enemies on the outside.
	In many cases, the people from within are more dangerous for our country than the Russia's and the China's.
	If you have a smart president, you're not going to have a problem with them.
	You're going to make, you're going to do things.
	Yeah.
	Now they've taken advantage of us incredibly, but you're going to do things with the right person.
	Yeah.
	Well, I think, I think it's obvious that you're, you're, you're a believer in an advocate of Well, the good thing is that you and I have, and some people, very few, we can get the word out.
	attacked relentlessly every day, often very unfairly with false attacks.
	And you didn't try to shut down the media.
	You didn't try to inhibit their freedom of speech.
	And I think that says a lot.
	Well, the good thing is that you and I have, and some people, very few, we can get the
	word out.
	Although sometimes it's hard because they don't want to print it, you know, like, like
	we're having a great conversation right now.
	Kamala wouldn't have this conversation.
	She can't, because she's not smart.
	You know, she's not a smart person, by the way.
	She can't have this conversation.
	And Biden, we don't even have to talk about it.
	I mean, he couldn't have this conversation.
	He would have given up on the first half of a question.
	He would have walked out.
	He would have said, where am I?
	Where am I going?
	So anyway, but no, he wouldn't have this.
	That's true.
	Not a lot of people would have this conversation, but you know, we cover a lot of territory.
	But the beauty is that you, you know, we can have a conversation and I'm able to get it out because I get to meet him.
	This is a really big point.
	You can actually have a conversation with you.
	Yeah, it's nice, isn't it?
	And you can't have a conversation with Biden or Kamala.
	It's not possible.
	This is like talking to an NPC, so it's just impossible.
	But think of it.
	We need a man.
	Or a person who's unbelievably sharp in order to stop all the nuclear danger and all the dangers that I'm talking about.
	And I got along with all this.
	You know, I got along with Kim Jong-un.
	We had dinner.
	We had everything.
	And he really liked me.
	And I got along with him really well.
	By the way, he's he's the absolute boss over there.
	You know, a lot of people said, oh, do you think you will?
	Let me tell you, I saw things that you don't want to know about.
	He is the boss.
	But we had a good relationship.
	And he doesn't like Biden.
	He considers him a stupid man, he said.
	He's a stupid man.
	Well, at least he speaks his mind.
	But, you know, in this country, you're not sort of allowed to say it, but I guess you are.
	You should be allowed to say it.
	It's true.
	But we need really, we need smart people and we need people that have an ability to lead.
	And she doesn't have that ability.
	Can you imagine?
	Now, you know Chairman Xi very well.
	Can you imagine her and him negotiating?
	Even standing together, the whole concept is ridiculous.
	She is terrible.
	She's terrible.
	But she's getting a free ride.
	I saw a picture of her on Time Magazine today.
	She looks like the most beautiful actress ever to live.
	It was a drawing.
	And actually, she looked very much like our great First Lady, Melania.
	She didn't look like Camilla.
	That's right.
	But of course, she's a beautiful woman.
	So we'll leave it at that, right?
	Yeah, well, you know, maybe, like, I think part of what, you know, people in America want to, you know, people in America want to feel excited and inspired about the future.
	They want to feel like the future is going to be better than the past, and that America is going to do things that are greater than we've done in the past, reach new heights that make you proud to be an American and excited about the future.
	They want the American dream back.
	You know, they want the American dream back more important than anything else.
	It's like, you don't have that today because the people, they've been just sucked.
	They see incompetent people running our, you know, the Biden thing is very interesting.
	People just found him to be incompetent.
	And when I debated him, I was like, is this for real?
	It was, yeah, it was just absurd.
	Um, but I mean, I think that there are like, you know, some, some, you know, grand projects that, that, that we could do.
	I mean, I think, Like, you know, we could we could build a base on the moon.
	We could send American astronauts to Mars.
	We could build high speed connections that are more advanced than anything else in the world between our cities.
	So people have fast transport.
	It's possible to solve traffic with tunnels.
	We already made great progress in Vegas doing that.
	You know, and just do things that are exciting and inspiring and make the future feel like it's better than the past.
	Well, I saw what you did in Vegas, and I'll tell you, it was amazing.
	I got to see, I took a big glimpse at it, and it's incredible what you, you know, it's incredible.
	And you could do that all over.
	You could do that all over.
	It's deep.
	Yeah, you don't even need much structure, you know, assuming you're in the right area.
	No, it's straightforward.
	It's amazing.
	So and like, I think we could do some some things that like, like China's got incredible high speed rail between its cities, but I think it's actually possible with with with tunnels, if it was deregulation with with an ability to actually was like legal to actually do the tunnels, then you could have high speed tunnels that are actually better than anything else in the
	world for high-speed transport between cities.
	And that would be something that, you know, Americans can say, wow, okay, we've got something
	that's cooler than anyone else in the world.
	That's the kind of thing that makes you proud to be an American.
	And much safer than surface trains, where there is a danger there, you know, with people,
	with crazy people.
	Yeah.
	It's much safer, much better.
	And you know, it's sad because I've seen some of the greatest trains.
	I find it fascinating.
	And I've seen the systems and how they work and the bullet trains, they call them, I guess.
	And they go unbelievably fast, unbelievably comfortable with no problems.
	And we don't have anything like that in this country, not even close.
	And it doesn't make sense that we don't.
	Doesn't make sense.
	Yeah.
	I think also, like, there's, you know, I'm kind of hopping on the excess regulation, but I think something that.
	Um, I think people can generally understand is that what happens with laws and regulations is that they just there's more and more of them every year.
	And unless there's a process to clean them up, eventually everything becomes legal.
	And that actually, it slows down the development of new technologies.
	I mean, if you take the sort of, like, I think there's room for some reform at the, at the FDA for improving the speed with which we approve.
	Drugs that could help save lives and improve people's lives.
	I worked very hard on that.
	We got that down to the lowest number ever.
	And we got therapeutics approved in the FDA that people can't even believe the speed.
	But I took them on.
	I don't think they like me too much, but I got things approved in the FDA at numbers that they wouldn't believe.
	You know, it's a very bureaucratic group.
	Actually, it's a fine group of people in many cases.
	I got to know a lot of them, but I was pushing them really hard for regenerants, for so many different things that were really pretty amazing.
	But the FDA takes too long.
	It's 12 years to get a product approved.
	I got it down to four, and I got some things done very quickly.
	But it's really something that Is going to have to be worked on because it takes too long.
	Just takes too long.
	Yeah, it just takes too long.
	And it's you end up in the same with the approval, but it just it's just, you know, it takes years instead of something that I think could potentially take months that improves people's lives.
	I think, you know, but I just wanted to hop on this point that like there has to be an active process for reducing rules and regulations because otherwise, They just keep building up every year to get like hardening of the arteries and eventually everything's illegal or takes forever and and then and then we just we just ossify as a society.
	We just we can't make any progress and and that's it's a really big deal.
	Just getting back to the FDA for one second.
	I got something done called right to try this is where you can go in and If you're terminally ill, you can use a space-age medicine or whatever it may be.
	We have the best doctors, the best labs in the world.
	We really do.
	But people would go to other countries because you couldn't use this, the product, even if they thought it worked because it's going through the FDA.
	I got it approved where you can, you basically, you look, nobody went, the doctors didn't want it because of the liability.
	The country didn't want it, our country, because they didn't want to get sued.
	These are people terminally ill.
	The insurance companies didn't want it and the pharmaceutical companies, nobody wanted it.
	I got everybody into a room and we came up with an agreement that you won't get sued.
	And also, they didn't want it on their record.
	If somebody's terminally ill and they die after taking a drug, they didn't want that on their record.
	So we set a separate list so it wouldn't count as a negative.
	And as you know, we got it done.
	We have saved right to try.
	They've been trying to get this done for 58 years, and it sounds simple, but it wasn't because, you know, I mean, you know, the insurance companies, nobody wanted it, but we got it done.
	Somebody signs, you sign a document that you're not going to sue the insurance companies, the country, you're not going to sue anybody.
	And we got it done.
	And we're saving tens of thousands of lives.
	Right to try.
	Hopefully you never need it.
	But if you do, you don't have to travel to Asia.
	You know, people, if they had money, they go to Asia, they go to Europe.
	If they don't have money, they go home and die.
	That's what happened.
	They'd go home and die.
	Yeah.
	Well, I mean, actually, to give Europe some props here, it's like if a drug is approved in Europe, which has a crazy amount of regulations, it should obviously be approved in the U.S.
	Yeah.
	I mean, they got more regulations than we do.
	So why would a drug be approved in Europe and not in the U.S.?
	That's crazy.
	Well, we did something that really, they've been trying to do it for 50 years, and they just couldn't get it done, and I got it done.
	And it's really something.
	But you're right.
	Some people go to Europe because a drug isn't approved here, but it's approved in Europe, and it's a drug that, generally speaking, would work.
	It's pretty crazy.
	Absolutely.
	You're right.
	And I think as long as people are properly informed of the pros and cons, and like, these are the risks, you know, this is the risk, and like, you make your own decision, that makes sense.
	Well, I think just, you know, in sort of closing up, and by the way, I'm looking at the numbers.
	You've got a lot of people listening.
	I hope you don't get nervous because you got a lot of people listening to you right now, like 60 million or something.
	What is that number?
	It's crazy.
	It's amazing how you can see that right away.
	How many, what is the number?
	Wow.
	What is it?
	Well, I think that's a big, that's bigger than you said.
	You said 25 and you're much more than double that number, 25 million.
	I think you're going to be 60 or 70.
	And I guess over a period of time, hey, I congratulate you.
	Do I get paid for this or not?
	Well, I think actually in terms of the number of people that will hear this conversation over the next few days, two weeks, it's going to be hundreds.
	That's what they say.
	Yeah, that's good.
	Well, look, it's an honor.
	But I just ask this, are you better off now or were you better off when I was president?
	Nobody's better off now.
	You know, we put out polls on that and nobody's better off now.
	Inflation has killed it.
	And you know, they also feel very unsafe.
	You look at what's going on with A lot of different things.
	You look at the riots we had at the colleges over, I mean, it's ridiculous, but all of the riots, they just feel unsafe.
	And now they really feel unsafe because you have a new form of crime.
	It's called migrant crime.
	I call it Biden migrant crime.
	Maybe I'll call it Kamala migrant crime.
	You know, I mean, with all these things, I always try to like, try to get to the ground truth by just asking people.
	And you know, my mom lives in New York and I was like, You know, mom, you know, do you know, have any of your friends, you know, been attacked or assaulted?
	And she said, yeah, three of her friends in three separate incidents were assaulted just in recent months, just walking around the streets of New York.
	And I said, well, what happened to the people that assaulted them?
	Oh, nothing.
	They got away.
	They always get away.
	And they don't even bother reporting it because They know that people are not going to get prosecuted.
	They just let violent criminals out in New York with zero bail.
	The only one that gets prosecuted is Donald Trump.
	They prosecute Trump.
	It's just obviously messed up if violent criminals are getting off scot-free.
	And meanwhile, the New York spending massive resources prosecuting you.
	And it's like, what's this?
	And I think the sort of sensible public said, looks at this and says, what the heck's going on here?
	This is obviously abuse of the legal system.
	The legal system is supposed to be protecting the public from violent criminals.
	And it should be obviously allowing the public to make their own decision about who should be president as opposed to, you know, some, you know, legal case.
	Once they start this precedent, because this can go on with the next one.
	I mean, this is a very bad precedent, what they're doing in terms of, you know, going after their political opponent.
	And that's all it is.
	It's going after their political opponent.
	And then you get a judge who's, you know, a strong Democrat.
	And I'm being nice when I say that in many cases, crooked as hell.
	But you get a judge and you go into an area where a Republican gets three or four percent of the vote.
	And, you know, you'll have a jury pool with people that hate Republicans or hate.
	It could also be the other way, of course, because it could start the other way in areas where they hate Democrats.
	And you get into a Pandora's box.
	It's a very dangerous thing for this country and a very dangerous thing even for the state.
	New York City is New York City and state.
	Lose a lot of business over what they did to me, because these people say, we don't want that to happen to us.
	That's no justice system.
	You have an unfair system of justice and it's costing New York state a tremendous amount of money.
	People are leaving and companies are leaving and they won't come back.
	So, you know, all of that stuff is important, but the economy now is the big thing and we can turn that economy up so fast.
	And people are going to be back again.
	We're going to get rid of inflation.
	I think there's a lot of opportunity.
	Absolutely.
	So, and I just want to congratulate you.
	You've done an amazing job.
	You are, you have definitely got a fertile mind.
	You know, we can talk, you and I can talk about rockets.
	Tunnels.
	We can talk about tunnels and rockets and, and, uh, electric cars, so many things.
	And now you're, you're into the AI and that's going to be another beauty.
	I would say.
	So it's an amazing thing you've done, Elon.
	It's an amazing thing, and I congratulate you.
	Thank you.
	I just say here's to an exciting, inspiring future that people can look forward to and be optimistic and excited about what happens next.
	And that's the kind of future that I think you will bring as president, and that's why I endorse you.
	Well, I appreciate that.
	That endorsement meant a lot to me.
	Not all endorsements mean that much, to be honest.
	Your endorsement meant a lot.
	And you know, we have a phrase, make America great again.
	It's pretty simple, but it really says that we want to make America great again.
	And we can do it.
	We can do it now.
	But if we were going to suffer another four years, like we suffered for the last four years, I'm not sure the country can ever come back.
	That's how bad it is.
	It's so bad.
	We have to, we have to do a lot.
	I think that's a very real risk.
	It's a big risk.
	It's a very real risk.
	And it's, you know, I'd just like to note to people listening, like I've not been very political before.
	And if you look at my record, I've actually been... I'm not like... Some sort of try to paint me as a far-right guy, which is absurd, because I like making electric vehicles and solar and batteries, helping with the environment.
	And I actually... I supported Obama.
	I stood in line for six hours to shake Obama's hand when he was running for president.
	So it's not like I'm some sort of dyed-in-the-wool, long-term Republican.
	Actually, I call myself...
	You know, historically a moderate Democrat and but now I feel like we're really at a critical juncture for the country.
	Um, and, uh, you know, I think a lot of people thought, you know, the administration would be a moderate administration, but it's not.
	And obviously.
	We're just going to see an even further left administration with Kamala.
	That's my honest opinion.
	I mean, her dad is literally... I mean, she was brought up as an actual... Her dad is a Marxist economist.
	You can Google it.
	I mean, it's not a... We're not making this up, you know?
	That's how she was brought up.
	We want to have a future that is prosperous, and I think we're just at this critical juncture.
	I think this is a case of America is at a fork in the road.
	It's true.
	You are the path to prosperity, and I think Kamala is the opposite.
	And that's my honest opinion.
	I'm going to get attacked like crazy.
	And I've also experienced quite a bit of lawfare myself.
	But I'm just trying to tell people my honest opinion.
	And I haven't been really active in politics before.
	And I'm just trying to point out that my track record historically has been moderate, if not moderate, slightly
	left.
	And so this is to people out there who are in the moderate camp to say,
	I think you should support Donald Trump for president.
	And I think it's actually a very important junction in the road.
	And we're in deep trouble if it goes the other way.
	Well, I want to thank you.
	You know, I actually always did think of you as somewhat left.
	I must say that.
	So it's even more of an honor to have your endorsement.
	I know how strong you feel about it.
	But, you know, when you think of her, San Francisco, 15 years ago, I had a great friend, Bob Tish.
	He said it's the greatest city in America.
	And now it's it's not it's almost not livable there.
	And California, likewise.
	And she was involved in the destruction of San Francisco and the destruction of California.
	And he will be involved in the destruction of our country if people are so unwise as to elect her.
	And I hope that doesn't happen.
	And I hope the elections are going to be run honestly.
	And we're going to turn this country around.
	We're going to we're going to do things that and we can do it fairly quickly.
	And we have to get rid of the criminals that have been given to us by other countries as they laugh They laugh at us.
	They think we're stupid to accept these people.
	These are radical, stone-cold killers in many cases, and terrorists, and they're in our country by the hundreds of thousands, and we have to take them out.
	Yeah, I mean, if I could summarize it perhaps, you know, I think these are issues that I think most people in America Uh, would agree with, which is that we want safe and clean cities.
	We want secure borders.
	Uh, we want sensible government spending.
	We want to restore both the perception and reality of respect in the, in the, in the judicial system, just, you know, stop the lawfare.
	Um, and, uh, and I think that that's like, and how are the, how are those even right wing positions?
	I think those are just, that's just common sense.
	And that's, uh, I mean, would you agree with that?
	A hundred percent.
	I don't understand, you know, the whole, they call it progressive.
	They don't like the word liberal anymore, but call it liberal or progressive.
	I don't understand how somebody could say that it's okay for them to empty prisons into our country.
	And again, I told you that crime rates all over the world are going way down, which makes sense.
	In fact, the next time what we'll do is if something happens with this election, which would be a horror show, We'll meet the next time in Venezuela because it'll be a far safer place to meet than our country.
	OK, so we'll go.
	You and I will go and we'll have a meeting and dinner in Venezuela because that's what's happening.
	Their crime rates coming down and our crime rates going through the roof.
	And it's so simple.
	And if you haven't seen anything yet, because these people have come into our country and they're just getting acclimated and they don't know about being politically correct, law enforcement or lack of law enforcement.
	And our police, I have to just end with this.
	We have great police, we have great law enforcement, but they're not allowed to do their job.
	They have to be able to do their job without being destroyed.
	Well, absolutely.
	And it's, it's obviously demoralizing if you're a police officer risking your life, uh, to, you know, to, you know, to arrest, uh, violent criminals who could kill you and do kill you sometimes.
	Um, and then you, you arrest the violent criminal and then the, the DA, you know, Doesn't prosecute and that's let the guy out.
	Why should a police officer risk their life to arrest a violent felon?
	Well, even worse, they prosecute the police officer.
	They go after it and they prosecute the police officer and they take away his pension.
	They take away his job.
	He loses his family.
	He loses his house.
	Well, I thought it was very telling, like incredibly telling that, you know, when that there was a case where, uh, you know, sort of a gang of thugs beat up, uh, police officers.
	I think it was in Times Square in New York and, and, and then nothing happened to those guys.
	They were, they were let out zero bail.
	And I think a bunch of them were given free tickets to California.
	Well, what is the, I mean, that, that is.
	That is a gross indignity against the United States, and that's how... I mean, this is insane.
	Like, have we lost all pride?
	How can such a thing be allowed to occur?
	I've never seen anything... You know, we see where they get shot.
	It's a very dangerous profession, but something they're very proud of, and they want to be able to do their job.
	But I've seen them get shot.
	I've seen a lot of things.
	But I've never seen where these guys are standing in the middle of a big street, Everybody watching them, and they're literally boxing, like, punching, stand-up fighting.
	A police officer, there were two of them, and you had about six of these guys, and they're punching the hell out of them.
	And in their own country, they would be dead if they did that.
	They'd be shot.
	They would be shot instantly.
	And you know, they come from these countries and it's taken them a while to realize that we don't do that in this country.
	But in their own country, if they stood on a street and had a fight with a police officer, they would be shot.
	There's no political correctness.
	And it's such a sad, it's such a sad thing to see.
	And that's the reason you have crime, by the way, because we don't do anything about it.
	Yeah, we just cannot have a situation where our police officers are beaten up on camera by a gang of illegal immigrants and then nothing happens to
	the guys that beat up the cops and they're let out.
	This is unacceptable.
	Well, we're going to change it and we're going to get them out of the country.
	You know, when I first got involved, they said you couldn't get them back to these countries.
	You couldn't take them back.
	In the case of Guatemala, Honduras, El Salvador, some others, you couldn't get them back.
	And I said, really?
	Oh, you can't get it back?
	Because under Obama, he couldn't get them back.
	They'd put up, they'd fly them in and they'd put planes on the runways in these countries.
	So you couldn't land the plane.
	They'd bring them back.
	And the general told me, the generals told me, sure, we can't bring them back.
	The countries won't accept MS-13 gang members.
	They won't accept them.
	And I said, really, how much do we pay these various countries in terms of economic aid, which is also somewhat ridiculous?
	And the answer was $750 million.
	I said, good.
	Tell them they're in default.
	They're delinquent.
	We're not going to do it.
	We're not paying them anymore because they won't accept it.
	And you know what happened?
	They all called me, every one of them.
	They said, We would be honored to take them back, sir.
	We would be honored.
	It was so easy.
	But it's one of those things.
	And we got them back.
	We took in so many.
	You know, MS-13 is probably the worst gangs in the world.
	They're the most vicious violence.
	We took them out of here by the thousands and got them out of here.
	And their countries took them back.
	And because I said, you're not getting any more economic aid.
	And once I said that, they were nice.
	They wouldn't take them back for Obama.
	They wouldn't take them back for anybody.
	And now we have a problem because we have this guy and they, again, they don't take him back anymore with Biden because they don't respect him.
	Yeah, yeah.
	So it's just it's just got to it's got to be done.
	We we just can't can't have whether they're citizens or not citizens.
	We can't have because they won't prosecute citizens either.
	Not just not just illegals.
	So it's you can't have violent repeat violent offenders that are not that that don't get incarcerated because they will obviously, by
	definition, continue to hurt people.
	And I think where part of this comes from is that there's, and I do sort of consider myself liberal in some ways.
	I mean, it's just that you want to have empathy for people.
	Obviously, you want to have empathy for people.
	I totally agree with that.
	You want to have empathy, but you also have to have empathy for the victims of the criminals.
	And if you just have empathy for the criminals, it's actually shallow empathy.
	It's not real.
	You're not thinking.
	You have one layer deep empathy.
	You've got to say, like, if you don't incarcerate this person, who are they going to And we have to give our police officers the dignity and the respect that they deserve.
	don't incarcerate them. You have to have empathy for the victims. And there's a lack of empathy
	for the victims of the criminals and too much empathy for the criminals. It doesn't make sense.
	That's why you want to have deep empathy for society as a whole, not shallow empathy for
	criminals. And we have to give our police officers the dignity and the respect that they deserve.
	And we have to let them do their job. They can do a great job, but we have to let them do their job.
	And if we don't do that, we're, you know, it's, it's going to all, it's going to all disappear.
	There's never been a society like this where you're allowed to do anything you want and nothing happens.
	And I'm talking about violent crime and it's going to get more violent because these are really, really violent people.
	And we're going to get them out of our country and we're going to get them back to where, because they were sent here by the presidents and by the various people that run those countries.
	And I know every one of those guys.
	And they're smart people.
	And they're streetwise people.
	And they really think that the USA is stupid.
	They think we're run by stupid people, and they happen to be right.
	But when I was there, we had no problem.
	We got them out.
	We took out thousands of MS-13 gang members.
	We brought them back.
	And now, again, it's the same old story.
	We don't do it.
	And they actually gave them a big increase in aid.
	They raised it up to billions of dollars, and they get nothing for it.
	You know, it's I hope everybody's going to vote for Trump and we're going to get this country straight.
	And I didn't need this.
	I'm like, I didn't need this.
	I had a very nice life.
	I didn't need this.
	To go through court systems and go through all the other stuff and run at the same time.
	I have to run.
	I have to go through fake trials with, in some cases, corrupt judges, totally corrupt judges.
	I didn't need it.
	I had a nice life.
	I have great locations.
	I have beautiful oceans that I have places.
	You know, I, this was, but I felt it was important.
	And if I had to, if I had to do it over again, You probably think I'm crazy for doing it, actually, but if I had to do it over again, I would have done it over again, because this is so much more important than me or my life.
	We're going to save this country.
	This country is going down, and these people are bad people that we're running against, and they're liars.
	They make statements.
	They do things that are so bad.
	They say they're going to make a strong border.
	They say they've been great on the border and they've been the worst in history.
	They say they're going to stop crime.
	The facts speak for themselves.
	It's so incredible.
	It's gotten to the point where people just don't even bother reporting crime in a lot of cities because they don't know anything that's going to happen.
	You know, that's what I hear anecdotally from people all the time.
	So, you know, it's just, uh, you know, my values, I'm just saying to people out there, like my, you know, the things I, I think are important for the future is like, we've got to have safe cities.
	We're going to have secure borders.
	We're going to have sensible spending.
	And we have, and we've got to have deregulation and, um, so we can have a prosperous future.
	And then we want to have some exciting, you know, sort of moonshot projects that people can get fired up about.
	And, um, you know, that's, that's the future I'm looking for.
	And, um, You know, I'm pro environment, but I'm not against, uh, you know, I'm not like, I don't think we should vilify the oil and gas industry because they're keeping civilization going right now.
	And, uh, but I do think we want to move, you know, you know, a reasonable speed towards a sustainable energy economy.
	Those are my values.
	And I think, um, you know, and so, I mean, that's, uh, why I'm.
	Well, I appreciate it.
	We're going to give incentives to companies to come into our country, not to leave our country.
	We're going to be giving tremendous incentives.
	We want companies to build here, not to build in other locations, and we want to create jobs.
	Again, it's about the American Dream.
	You don't hear about the American Dream anymore, Elon.
	You're the American Dream in the truest sense, but you don't hear about the American Dream anymore, and you're going to hear about it.
	People, they need that incentive to go out and do it.
	And they're going to love their lives.
	I mean, they're going to love, they're going to look forward to getting up in the morning and going to, you know, going to a job that they love, not a job that they can't stand or not any job at all where they have no money, where they literally have no money.
	And then they end up with violence and lots of other problems.
	No, we're going to do some great things.
	And I learned a lot in the first.
	We had a great economy and all of that.
	We rebuilt the military.
	We did so much.
	But I also learned, and I also learned the best people.
	I learned the good people, the smart people, the dumb people, the people that can do things.
	You know, you learn.
	When I first came in, I tell people I was in Washington, D.C.
	only 17 times, according to the fake news media.
	I was in 17 times.
	I never stayed over.
	And you don't know people.
	You rely on other people to give you names, and then you realize the people you relied on weren't so good.
	Now, we had great people, but we also had some where I wouldn't have used them, had I known.
	Now I know everybody.
	And I think we're going to really turn things around fast.
	We have no choice.
	Otherwise, we're not going to have a country.
	And I really appreciate this.
	To me, it's been a lot of fun being with you.
	You're an amazing guy.
	You've done an incredible job and a great inspiration to people.
	A great inspiration.
	I hope you keep going and just continue to do well, and we're going to have a big election coming up, and I think November 5th will be the most important day in the history of our country.
	I think that election will be the most important election, and I think it'll end up being maybe the most important day in the history of our country, because if we don't win, I just feel so sorry for everybody.
	No, I think we're at a fork in the road of destiny, of civilization.
	And I think we need to take the right path.
	And I think you're the right path.
	So I think that's what it comes down to.
	Thank you very much, Elon.
	It's a great honor.
	And we'll do it again sometime.
	And it's been really fun.
	And I hope you got a lot of viewers.
	I hear you got a lot.
	I know you got a lot of them.
	So I appreciate it.
	I'll see you soon.
	All right.
	Sounds good.
	Thank you.
	Thank you, Elon.
	Thank you very much.
	Thank you very much. Bye.
	Bye.
	You You
	You America was created at a time of great turmoil, tremendous disagreements, anger, hatred.
	There was a book written in 1776 that guided much of the discipline of thinking that brought to us the discovery of our freedoms, of our God-given freedoms.
	It was Thomas Paine's Common Sense, written in 1776, one of the first American bestsellers, in which Thomas Paine explained, by rational principles, the reason why these small colonies felt the necessity to separate from the Kingdom of Great Britain and the King of England.
	He explained their inherent desire for liberty, for freedom, freedom of religion, freedom
	of speech, the ability to select the people who govern them.
	And he explained it in ways that were understandable to all the people, not just the elite.
	Because the desire for freedom is universal.
	The desire for freedom adheres in the human mind and it is part of the human soul.
	This is exactly the time we should consult our history.
	Look at what we've done in the past and see if we can't use it to help us now.
	We understand that our founders created the greatest country in the history of the world.
	The greatest democracy, the freest country.
	A country that has taken more people out of poverty than any country ever.
	All of us are so fortunate to be Americans.
	But a great deal of the reason for America's constant ability to self-improve is because we're able to reason.
	We're able to talk.
	We're able to analyze.
	We are able to apply our God-given common sense.

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