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Sept. 18, 2023 - Rudy Giuliani
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America's Mayor Live (E236): The Truth About January 6th, 2021
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Good evening and welcome to America's Mayor Live.
And tonight we have with us Cara Castronova.
You know, Cara.
Cara is a fine, fine, among other things, investigative journalist.
And one of the things that one of the numerous things, but maybe the most important thing she's devoted herself to from the very beginning is covering this whole January 6th Situation and although we can't cover it in the great detail that we would like right now.
We will eventually whether we thought this week that we would spend maybe 10-15 minutes of each show focus on little pieces of it just to make you aware of the major questions that exist and that this is not the settled dogmatic You must believe every single thing that the Biden regime and the crooked press tell you.
And if you don't, you're some kind of a traitor or a horrible person or mean, stupid.
This is a very, very confusing situation about which the truth is not at all well known yet.
Treated From the very beginning, in a very dishonest way, you'll recall the original reports were four people, I think four policemen had been killed, other people had been seriously injured, sent to the hospital.
It was almost as if the Capitol was burning down.
uh... that uh... the congressman and and senators were in grave uh... uh... jeopardy uh... possibly even beaten and then even afterwards when much of that was proven to be untrue and wildly exaggerated including probably the strangest story of all that one of the offices uh... who was who died was uh...
Was allowed to lie in state in the Capitol, was buried at Arlington, as if he had won the Congressional Medal of Honor, and no one is meaning to demean him at all.
I mean, the man is entitled to all the honors he's going to get if he's a police officer, as far as I'm concerned.
But it was all done on the false pretenses that he had been killed that day.
And the New York Times went as far as to say a fire extinguisher had been thrown to his head, and that was proven to be totally false.
And in fact, he did die a day later, and his autopsy clearly said of natural causes having nothing to do with this.
That was just one, maybe the most grossly exaggerated, extremely vicious thing to do to his family, to him.
I see the American people.
But at any event, that just gives some sense.
Even you can see it carried over today when we find Democrat politicians saying it was as bad as or worse than September 11, the Civil War, the Second World War, the attack of Pearl Harbor.
Of course, it was none of those things.
No one is saying it was all legal.
It was not.
But it was probably closer to all legal than being like Pearl Harbor, right?
So, remember the time.
It was 2020.
We were coming through.
A completely unknown, strange and traumatic experience that has done great damage to us.
We don't even know how much damage.
We know it's done great damage to our children and their education.
They've all fallen behind and many of them have large percentages behind other countries.
Those that were locked in for an extra year because of the Communist Teachers Union have fared much, much worse than those where people were put back to school right away.
People were kept inside like they were prisoners.
People were forced to take vaccines that they felt they shouldn't be forced to take because they'd never been properly tested.
They didn't have the usual information that you get, the background information you get about the possible side effects.
People lost their jobs.
They were fired.
America came probably as close to being treated in many places, particularly in the Democrat states, like a bit of a dictatorship.
And not a bit, a lot of a dictatorship.
And then with an enormous amount of hypocrisy, you know, Governor Newsom saying people couldn't go out to dinner, and he did.
Governor, what's her name, in Michigan saying people couldn't go on vacations, and her husband did.
Mayor Lightfoot saying that- Whitmer.
Whitmer, I know.
Whitmer and Mayor Lighthead saying that nobody could get their hair done and go out, and she did, because she had to look good.
Similar, similar, highly hypocritical acts from Governor Cuomo and Governor Murray and, you know, one after the other of these ridiculous things.
Cards, you had to have cards to go into places, you know, where are your cards?
Which is what it reminded people of.
And then, of course, the violence of 2020 was horrendous and covered up.
The accounts of the number of people dead based on the Antifa, Black Lives Matter, and
other group riots of which there were something like 70 or 80 or 100 or I think they count
about 30 people dead, hundreds if not thousands of people injured, hundreds of police officers
injured, going to the hospital injured, billions of dollars in damage, billions of dollars
in damage, ridiculous scenes like CNN reporters saying this is a peaceful riot and in back
of you you see people getting shot or houses burning down.
And then the Democrat party and Kamala Harris in particular putting up bail money for them.
And then we find out that Soros was getting them all out because they were all going in front of district attorneys, that Soros spent millions of dollars to get elected and they were just going free.
It's almost as if the riots were planned for the places where there were Soros district attorneys that would let everybody go free.
And these were terrible riots with Democrat politicians encouraging them.
And then we had what happened on January 6th.
And we had a number of people, thousands and thousands and thousands, who believed that the election was fraudulent.
Not a hard thing to believe when you consider that many people by that time had found out that they were covering up the hard drive, which was astounding.
Astounding that our government would do that, or that our law enforcement agencies would do that.
Here there was this piece of evidence, Hunter Biden's computer.
It contained hundreds of crimes, clear evidence of it.
It was handed to the oldest newspaper in the United States.
For the first time in American history that I can think of, it was censored.
Nobody would disclose it.
It was censored because it would have defeated Joe Biden.
All you had to do is read a little of it to figure it out.
10 minutes into it and you had five crimes.
20 minutes into the pictures and you had an unbelievably perverted family, sick family.
All of it hidden, all of it covered up.
Personally, I was accused by the, Eventually, the President of the United States is being a Russian pawn on national television during a debate.
Of course, I knew I wasn't.
I'd been handed to me by John Mac Isaacs, a very, very patriotic American.
I did my own due diligence.
I spent 50 years in law enforcement.
So did my lawyer.
So did others.
It was clearly true.
And it was extraordinarily damaging, and these people were tremendously frustrated.
So, Cara, that's the background that we go into January 6th.
Vast majority of people, having addressed them, peaceful.
Vast majority of people there, for what had always been, I mean, the Trump people were extraordinarily peaceful.
They did not have a history of violence I went to so many rallies with him with 10,000, 20,000, 30,000 people.
I used to worry sometimes because they get very excited.
They never did anything.
They never did anything.
I remembered Sometime that day, later on that night, after it all sunk in, I said, I'm shocked our people don't act like this.
It was just a spontaneous reaction.
And they don't.
Our people don't act like this.
You can see since then they haven't acted like that.
Right.
And there was a lot of infiltration in the crowd and it's been obviously, you know, Those are not our people.
I mean, I know them.
I was with them for years.
I was at just about the first rally.
I was at every one.
I introduced them at 25 rallies.
I introduced them at a rally in which the Secret Service had to break it up because somebody had a gun and they rushed them off and everybody remained peaceful.
I was at rallies in which they were challenged by pretty vicious, nasty people.
I mean, I saw all of that.
I used to get called all kinds of names by these Antifa people, and I had numerous threats from them.
Well, for me, I was there that day in the crowd and I watched her speech.
And the thing that stood out to me as I marched from the Ellipse to the Capitol was where was Antifa, because they're always out protesting Trump supporters, whether they're throwing things or yelling profanities.
And there was no counter protesters.
So, you know, to find out later that they were all in the crowd, egging people on, instigating.
And I know that for a fact.
I saw it with my own eyes.
I saw people instigating.
It doesn't really take much.
I mean, the crowd was very passionate and very emotional to instigate a crowd like that.
But I'm certain, and it's been proven since then, there were federal operatives in the crowd, and there were Antifa members in the crowd.
Yeah, they won't tell us how many.
They won't say how many, but there was certainly a lot.
Ray will not...
Ray Epps?
Well, I mean, I know it's like they haven't said he's the Fed, but why hasn't he been arrested?
All of the things that they've accused the majority of the January 6thers that are in jail right now, including the ones that were sentenced to 18 and 22 years in prison, Ray Epps did much worse.
They actually tried to blame some of the stuff that Ray Epps did on one of the gentlemen named Joe Biggs that's in jail and was sentenced to 18 years.
They literally tried to implicate him with the stuff Ray Epps did.
Yeah, Ray Epps is... Tell us a little... I think people remember...
the videos of him yelling and screaming.
Right, we're taking in the Capitol, we're going to storm the Capitol.
There was an incident, I actually was in DC this week viewing some of the January 6 surveillance
tape to CC cameras, and there is an incident where there's a big metal flag being carried
through the crowd, which I've seen before when people all carry the flag, about 20 people on
each side. And the flag is now considered a deadly weapon and three or four of the people,
even more, that were just touching that flag are in jail for having a quote unquote deadly weapon
because it was pushed in the direction of cops. You could see clearly from the CC can that one,
they passed- Did it hurt?
So we also have Sullivan.
by raps and he literally derails the flag and pushes it towards cops. It's like as plain
as the nose on your face. You could see it on the CC cam TV.
He's the one that like pushed it toward the cops. Yet everybody carrying it is in jail
and he is not. So I mean, you could do the math yourself.
So we also have Sullivan, right? Sullivan, who the night of September of January 6th,
and this is why I've always had a different view of it. I was brought a tape. Tape is
about 45 minutes long.
It was done highly professional.
Looks like it was almost orchestrated.
He knew every movement and everywhere people were going, so he could photograph it in advance.
But in the course of that, he committed crimes.
He broke in himself and had himself videoed breaking in a window.
Broken up a window and broke in a window.
He encouraged people to destroy property while he was inside.
He encouraged people to continue to march when some of them wanted to stop.
Right.
It is quite clear that they had an objective of a place to go.
On two occasions, they're redirected by people who look like undercover cops, undercover FBI agents.
Gosh almighty, I've worked with thousands.
I can smell it.
Right.
One goes like this.
At one point, they almost go out the building by mistake.
The cops help them come back in.
And they get to the front of, eventually, after 40 minutes, they get to the front of Speaker Pelosi's doors.
The big doors.
There are two gigantic cops standing there.
I mean, gigantic, like 6'2", 6'3".
Big guys.
This group was not on the way in there, except for the encouragement of Sullivan.
The group was not terribly violent.
I don't remember hitting anybody, beating anybody.
He was encouraging them to break things.
The guy doing the filming.
And he had broken in, and there's a video of him the day before telling people, like Epps, that they should the next day go and break in.
And what's crazy about him is he's somehow he's in Ukraine right now.
How about the fact that he also wrote a text saying we got to come and take Trump out?
Which almost always leads to an arrest for a threat on the president.
Right.
Almost always.
I've never heard of someone getting to write that and not get arrested.
But in any event... And he was right there when Ashley Babbitt got shot.
He literally... Well, not only was he right there, he got the kill shot.
Meaning, it's highly unlikely that you would have, if you didn't know what was going to happen, be able to put your camera right on the gun.
Right.
So, all of a sudden, they approach They approach her office.
Two cops are standing there.
It was a crowd, but not that big a crowd.
Not a crowd that, there were about six cops around, maybe eight, that six or eight cops couldn't have handled.
They didn't appear to have any weapons.
Two of the guys, one of whom was identified to me by a person who knows Antifa, who brought her to me as an Antifa person.
Right.
Another one, she couldn't tell.
Thought was, but couldn't put a name on it.
Well, there was a guy there that was dressed up as a Proud Boy that wasn't a Proud Boy that a lot of people think was Antifa.
I mean, they can't prove it.
He was actually put in jail, but he was wearing a Proud Boy shirt disguised as a Proud Boy.
So these are the people that were surrounding Ashley Babbitt.
So one of the two guys goes up to the cops.
They're standing there like this.
And there's a conversation.
You can't hear all of it except, we don't want you to get hurt.
Something like, we don't want you to get hurt.
The two cops abandon their post.
You look at them and say, what are you doing that for?
They weren't like getting hit.
Nobody put a gun on them.
No one threw anything at them.
It didn't appear as if people were going to be violent against them.
They abandon their post, they leave the doors vacant, and the two guys now begin banging the door open.
One of them is using a, like a, look like a baseball bat.
The other's using one of those Antifa helmets, like Antifa uses, you know, they use the helmet to ram.
So they're ramming, ramming, ramming, trying to get it open, and all of a sudden, on the camera, you see a gun.
Next thing you hear is, gun!
Maybe second time, gun!
Before you can think, You hear a shot and you see Ashley Barrett come down.
Now, how the hell did Sullivan know, out of all the places to put that camera, to put it right on the gun?
Doesn't make any sense.
Now, let me tell you that this guy, Sullivan, was also under indictment at the time for being involved in a riot in Utah.
Right.
Where he happened to be there and took a filming of a shooting there too.
Right.
Now, he gets arrested eventually and released in two hours.
Right.
Why isn't he being detained in solitary confinement like everybody else?
And he's in Ukraine right now.
I mean, you can't make this stuff up.
Not only is he on tape committing federal crimes, he's a two-timer.
Right.
Most of these people have no record.
He might have had even a second one, I'm not sure, but he definitely had one indictment in Utah for incitement to riot where someone got killed, and he filmed the killing just like Ashley Babbitt.
How do you let that guy out and put these other people in jail for two years?
Right.
I don't know.
It's a banana republic.
You know things aren't normal right now.
Things are very strange, and John Sullivan is definitely one of the strange things on January 6th, and his case hasn't really moved anywhere.
He was arrested.
He wasn't charged with as much as everybody else was charged with, and he's able to go free.
A lot of people are still in jail, and he's able to travel out of the country and go take videos in Ukraine.
We don't know exactly how much he made on that, but he made anywhere from a low of about $60,000 to a high of $200,000 on that tape.
And I think he worked with CNN on it.
He did, yes.
Like an official kind of thing.
CNN, I mean, anybody watching that has to ask the question, how the hell did you know that gun was coming out?
Right.
And then, of course, the shooting is, it's a first degree homicide.
There's no justification for it.
None.
To shoot to kill, you have to be in realistic fear of your life.
She didn't have a weapon.
It would have been impossible for her to hurt him.
She was either jumping over or being pushed over a parapet, which means she would have landed on her face.
She was five foot two.
When you take a good look at it, you see that behind the officer are about eight more cops to help him.
And remember when I said there were two cops in front?
You don't see until the end that there are eight more cops in the back.
In other words, if those guys wanted to control those doors, they could have said, Hey guys, come on up.
They could have put eight cops right here.
They let them, there's no question, the cops let them knock down the door.
They didn't have to.
The crowd wasn't forcing it.
It was two guys that talked to them.
And they had reinforcements that could have overwhelmed this mob that didn't have a gun.
I mean, they had a couple of instruments that they could hit you with.
The cops had guns.
This, to a law enforcement person like me, this is as screwed up.
And from that day on, whenever I hear about January 6th, I say to myself, there's a lot of bull here.
A lot.
I mean more than you could ever imagine. So I was there like I said in DC watching some of the video
There was an incident I'll touch on really fast where do you know where they had those pictures of the you know?
The quote-unquote white supremacist chasing the african-american cop
I watched it from the inside now from the CC video when they
first come in the window which a lot of them a lot of People say are federal agents coming in that window
so, you know Yeah!
They just jump in so easily.
But waiting right on the side of that window was this cop by himself with four photographers
behind him with gigantic cameras.
How did they know to be right there with all those big cameras where they took all those
pictures, those iconic pictures of the African-American cop, you know, sort of running away from the
people that jumped in the window that they painted as these white supremacists?
Conveniently, there were four photographers waiting on the other side of that window.
Waiting.
How is that?
There's no question there was, this was orchestrated in many, many ways.
I think our problem is we don't, we don't have the whole story.
Well, the problem is- We don't know, we don't know.
The strings have to be tied together and the Republican House is not doing anything that they promised when it comes to releasing the tapes.
They're going after Hunter, right?
Sort of.
It looks like they're doing that in good faith.
Why aren't they pursuing this?
Why aren't they pursuing this?
Right.
Can you, can you, I mean, why don't we take a break?
And when we come back, we're going to ask Kara, because I don't understand why the Republicans don't pursue this because there are, at best, I mean, the best thing you could say is there are very unanswered questions.
We'll be right back.
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Well, we're back and we were talking during the break and the people on Getter can't actually hear because of the strange arrangement that we have here and Kara was expressing all of her frustrations about The fact that nobody, and particularly the Republicans, nobody wants to investigate this.
And whether we're right or we're not right, or to the extent that we are or we aren't, definitely there are big, big open questions here.
Like the whole Ashley Babbitt thing is a big open question.
This cop shoots her.
She has no gun, she has no weapon, she is not a threat to anyone or anything, and there are sufficient police officers around to easily subdue her should she try anything.
Were this a shooting in New York, particularly, my goodness, if you change the races, we'd have riots.
Right.
And there was other people, as you know, like Roseanne Boylan, who no one speaks about.
Yeah, tell us about Roseanne Boylan.
I did a podcast on that.
Right. Which of course doesn't get as much attention, but still it's another horrible situation.
Well, hopefully the story comes out. Lara Logan just, we shot a documentary down in Georgia,
and we actually went and met with people in Roseanne's town, and we did a lot of investigations on who she was and spoke
to friends and witnesses that were there that day, including her best friend who told us that she was 100%
alive when she was struck by that cop.
So these are things that needed to be investigated by the fake January 6th committee.
But Roseanne Boylan is the woman who died on January 6th.
It was reported by the fake news, and it's on Wikipedia that she died of a quote-unquote drug
overdose.
They tried to paint her off as a fentanyl addict when she had no drugs in her system except for her prescription Adderall.
And she was seen being beaten by a policewoman.
No, I've seen it.
It was a vicious beating.
And she was crushed by people in the crowd that cops pushed on top.
She was hit with a pepper ball.
She was gassed.
So all these things more than likely contributed to her death.
We have a little bit of video we can play.
Yeah, play a little of it.
A little bit.
20 seconds.
A desperate friend pleads for the mob to back off.
He screams again amid the chaos.
The trampled woman was identified as 34-year-old Roseanne Boyland from Georgia.
She was one Go on the Gateway Pundit and just put Roseanne Boylan into a search bar and you'll find all the videos that you want because more has emerged.
And, you know, that was at the end of the tunnel and people were trying to save her and the crazy thing is it's been two and a half years and not one guy that was there that says that he was trying to stick up for Roseanne and that's why he was violent with cops has been tried yet.
They're really pushing them to take plea deals because they don't want this story to ever come out in the court.
In the court then they would be playing the Roseanne Boylan being killed video.
for the jury, they don't want to do that. So there's about 15 guys that were surrounding
Roseanne that were trying to help her and it's not a single one has been tried yet they're
still trying to push Donald Trump's case to be tried.
Are they in jail?
Yes.
No, but- They're in jail. They have, they're in jail without bail.
They have no trial date in sight.
Are they charged with killing her?
No, they're charged with attacking police because they were trying to push police off of her and they were trying to drag her body up and give her to police and police were beating them off with sticks and then some of them got agitated and started throwing water bottles and stuff like that at cops and it just became a tussle.
And they want to go to trial?
They do.
Jake Lang is one of them.
Sheriff McAbee, who was a sheriff in Tennessee, was literally trying to save her life the whole entire time and he's in jail.
Has he been in jail?
He's been since January 6th.
He hasn't come out.
His trial isn't until maybe next year.
There's no trial date in sight.
And these are all people that are using the Roseanne Boylan defense.
This is a guy who was a former sheriff.
Right.
He's charged with hitting a police officer.
He's not even, he's just charged with obstructing police, like meaning he was in the way of police, because he was trying to get them to help.
How do they justify holding him in jail?
People are in New York, as you know, with the communists we have, or whatever the hell he is, anarchists that we have, as a DA, don't get held on bail if they beat the living daylights out of an old person, and almost kill them.
They go out.
I mean, we got people out on bail, Four times in a row until they eventually, you know, after they got four victims, they finally get out.
But in other words, this person has not been charged with physical violence against anyone?
They said, this is what, like, you know, the prosecution is very dirty and it's horrific
what they're doing.
What they did when they had the grand jury was they played the body cam with no audio
when the audio was working.
And they told them, if you watch a video and someone tells you this is what is happening,
generally, you will see what they tell you.
You probably know this as a prosecutor.
They said, oh, this is him tussling with cops.
When you turn the audio on and the audio was sent to the judge after the fact, and actually
Loie Gormert has spoken about this.
No, no, I've seen that right there.
The audio is him, the cops thanking him for his help.
But they muted the audio in front of the grand jury, and he's been held in jail ever since, and there's nothing his lawyers could do.
The government has their minds set on the four, there's about 40 to 50 pretrial detainees.
Those ones that are in there, no matter what, they're not going anywhere.
The government has decided on that.
So now you go before a judge in the District of Columbia, an American judge, an American federal judge, because these are appointed by the president, these judges.
Doesn't hold people without bail except for the most heinous offenses.
You don't have pre-trial detention.
And of course, we've gotten even almost ridiculous to the point of no pretrial detention in many of the Soros D.A.
cities where, you know, people that are going out and beating the living daylights out of people are not held.
So how do the judges justify this under the Constitution?
I mean, the person comes in front of them.
He's been in jail for a year.
Nobody's trying the person.
The charge is he hasn't killed anybody.
He hasn't beaten anybody to the point of death.
Didn't touch anyone.
Maybe some of them got involved in a scuffle with the police, but my god, every Black Lives Matter person that didn't got involved would scuffle with the police, and they go around yelling to kill police.
You know, pigs in a basket, fry them like bacon, right?
So, but they go out, and then they get the charges dropped.
I don't understand how a judge can sit there on the bench, and the lawyer gets up and says, my client's been in jail for two years and hasn't been tried.
I think an American judge almost by instinct would go crazy and say, what is this?
This is not a, this is not a, what are we, the Nazi Germany?
Which is why I'm convinced that the judges are colluding with the Department of Justice, you know?
Oh my God.
And I know this because, you know, like you said, it's an American judge.
Some of them were Republican appointees.
I know!
They're acting lawless.
There's, you know, dozens of them.
And every single one of them are in lockstep in Washington, D.C.
So I am very convinced that all the House has to do is subpoena the communications between the Department of Justice, the Biden administration, and the judges, and you will see that there is definite unconstitutional collusion.
So I went to Congress and tried to persuade them of this.
No, no!
God forbid!
by a lot of people that the Republicans are afraid. They're never going to do it. McCarthy
has to be pressured. If the news media, which they won't, be pressured by the news media.
And they said, could you do anything? I said, you know, do you really think that the news,
besides the couple of institutions like News Taxi, do you really think they're going to?
No, no, they're not. One of the things he's afraid of is the news media.
Right. So, so McCarthy needs to be pressured is what they're telling me. He's not going to do it.
Nobody's going to do it.
Nobody.
And that's why, I mean, unfortunately, I think that he has to be replaced because he didn't keep any of the promises that he said, including releasing of the tapes and looking into the January 6th unselect committee who lied to the American public and destroyed the records afterwards.
No, and this is a thing that I think they actually, some of the things have broken down.
You know, like with all these prosecutions of Trump, a lot of that has broken down.
And you have the American people now, more than a majority, thinking that Biden is corrupt.
Some of that's broken down.
But on this one, I think a lot of people still believe... I don't even know if they could define it anymore.
Something terrible happened.
It didn't.
I'm telling you, this is... Something terrible happened.
If they want to blow the lid off the Democrats' lies forever, I tell people, you only have to scratch this deep.
If you actually scratch...
All the worms, I don't even know what... But they yell so loud.
But there's so much there to expose them once and for all.
Tara, they yell so loud.
And then people react with them.
And they really do scare people.
And they don't even know what they're yelling about.
Insurrection, insurrection.
The majority of the guys that just were sentenced to 22 years, 18 years, some of them weren't in D.C.
None of them were violent.
Not a single one.
They marched in and out of the Capitol.
Even off the record, journalists from liberal newspapers, very big liberal newspapers, told me off the record, there in the courtroom, They are not guilty, but we cannot report that.
We know they're not guilty, but we just can't say that in our publications.
I was told this by court reporters who've been doing this for 25 years for big, big, big establishment papers.
So it's very unfortunate.
And Enrique Tarrio, who is the president of the Proud Boys, wasn't there that day.
And maybe you can enlighten me on this because of the prosecution work you've done.
The prosecutors literally came to him, right, a year ago.
They had a piece of paper, and they said, we want you to sign this.
It said that he spoke through a friend of a friend of a friend to Trump about January 6th, that Trump knew what was going to happen and that he had spoken to him through three different friends, like a friend of a friend of friend had given Trump a message.
They said, if you sign this, we'll take it easy on you.
You know, this was a part of a cooperation deal.
And he's like, it's ridiculous.
I'm not signing this.
And now he's like been sentenced to 22 years of his life.
He's like, if I just would have signed the thing, maybe I would be out and I'd be in my house and I'd be in my warm bed.
They did that.
I mean, I know.
Is that legal?
Of course that's not legal.
It's extortion.
It's completely illegal.
It's obstruction of justice.
It's extortion.
It's the kind of thing they would do in a communist or Nazi jail.
Not in an American prison.
And to the president, to lie about the president of the United States who's running for office.
They did it to Manafort.
I mean, Manafort will tell you that now if you interview him, but I knew it at the time because I was representing the president at the time.
And of course, I knew he was innocent.
The only thing I was worried about is they get somebody to lie.
And they did everything they could to Manafort.
They put him in solitary confinement for his own safety.
He said, I don't want to be in solitary confinement.
I'd rather not be safe.
But they put him in solitary.
He didn't need solitary confinement.
First of all, the prison, the prisoners, I went to prison because I was arrested.
I got applauded by the prisoners.
I think the prisoners know what's going on.
I think they know it's a big fix.
I got applauded by them.
They're amazing!
We have another clip.
Okay.
Kara, have you seen this video of the police officers that day?
And this is in reference to Roseanne Boylan.
We really wanted to focus on that.
I'm going to play this and I'm going to give you this version here so you can hear it.
And kind of let me know if you let us know about what you know about this clip here.
Is that one of ours or is that a protester?
Huh?
Is that one of ours or is that a protester?
Protester.
Alright, fuck it.
Is that one of ours or is that a protester?
Have you seen this?
I have.
What did they say?
I don't know which clip this is.
So basically they're asking, and we're going to play it again here.
Here.
Why don't you describe it and then play it.
I'll know it if you tell me what's going on.
So they're asking each other, one another, if they're asking one another, Hey, is that, is that our person on the ground?
And the other officer says no.
And so the officer responds, Oh, F them.
Right.
Right.
Have you seen that?
I have seen that.
I've seen all of the video behind the scenes.
Why haven't that, why hasn't that, and let's play it one more time for our, for our audience.
It's just 11 seconds.
But if it was the other way around, it would be people.
Is that one of ours or is that a protester?
Huh?
Is that one of ours or is that a protester?
Protester.
Alright, fuck it.
Is that one of... So they are discussing Roseanne Boyle.
Yes.
And they just leave it there.
Yeah.
Well, they want to know.
Is it one of our officers?
Because I'm guessing if it was, they would have been a lot quicker to help them.
To respond.
And actually, from what I understand, one of the officers took her ambulance.
And this sounds crazy, but it's a true story.
Because of the tear gas, I guess he went to go to the bathroom and he touched his private part.
Then, you know, they call him, um, pepper spray penis or something.
Not to be gross.
But that's what happened.
He touched himself when he went to go pee and he started... This is a video.
I saw that video.
He burnt it.
He took the ambulance that they were supposed to take, from what I understand, Roseanne, to the hospital and he jumped in that instead.
So she, again, was left longer than she should have been.
For hours.
And so that clip goes to the fact, and I haven't been able to corroborate the time of that, but if that aligns with You know, if that is in fact, if they're referring to Ms.
Boylan, that's awful.
They are referring to her.
That's 100%.
I've seen that.
That was part of the documentary that we did.
Just awful.
They had no regard for her life back there.
And you know, you saw those cops up there on the January 6th committee lying about how they were trying to save her life.
It took them a very long time to finally start working on her.
And it was mostly Park Police that were really working on her.
It wasn't even the Metro PD.
So, you know... Well, when you say... The Capitol Police...
Metro PD.
Metro PD.
And then there's Park Police.
Most of the time are we looking at Capitol Police?
Well, in the incident of Roseanne, those were mostly Metro PD.
I see.
In the incident of Ashley Babbitt, it was mostly Capitol Police.
I thought so.
Okay.
The one beating Roseanne was Lila Morris, a Metro PD police officer who has yet to get in any trouble or even be investigated and who walks free, who was honored by Mayor Bowser of Washington, D.C.
at the Super Bowl as a hero, and she beat Roseanne Boylan, you know, and a lot of people say that's the reason she died.
Let's play that clip again.
Let's take a short break because I want to get into a little who Roseanne is, okay?
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Kara gets it.
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I didn't know that.
No, my father loved boxing.
My father, Kara, when he was alive, it was before all this, you know, crazy boxing.
It's different now.
Extreme boxing stuff.
Oh, you mean MMA.
The kicking.
Yeah, that's MMA.
My father would go crazy if you did that.
My father was very much a Marcus of Queensberry, you know, all the rules.
And my father watched every fight.
So I can, I remember when I was traveling.
I remember I was in San Diego once with a friend of mine.
We were going out to dinner and watching this fight.
The fight was great.
And it was a bad, it was a bad decision.
We both thought it was a bad decision at the end.
And we're supposed to go out to dinner.
We're going to meet these people.
We're already late.
So before we go, I got to call my father.
This is before cell phones, so I had to wait.
I said, how do you know he's going to be up?
I said, my father watches every damn fight.
He said, oh, come on.
I get up, my father's on the phone.
Watch that fight?
Yeah.
What a steal.
Man, he had beat the shit out of everybody.
He was going over the whole fight.
Then my friend gets on the other line and he analyzes the entire fight from the first round to the tenth round and why it was a bad decision.
He loved fighting.
He would have loved to watch you.
It was before women fight.
I don't know how he would have reacted to it.
Women are the best fighters.
They put it all in.
They don't leave anything out.
I know.
I watch it.
It's like they'll die in the ring.
He will.
They don't back off, right?
I've seen fights.
I'm sure that Floyd Patterson...
fell down the second time he went out to fight Sonny Liston.
Sonny Liston almost killed him the first time.
He walks out.
I'm not even sure Sonny Liston threw a punch.
He just went down.
Now, let's get back to where we were.
We were talking about Roseanne Boylan.
And so tell us a little about her.
Well, Roseanne was there protesting just like everybody else.
And she kind of got swooped up in the crowd towards the- Was she a criminal?
No.
She wasn't.
And she was just so, you know- Did she have a criminal record?
No, but she had drug issues in the past, and this comes into play because one of her biggest legacies was that she was now a drug counselor.
And she had been sober for seven years.
So she was a former drug addict.
Who had been sober for seven years, so that when the news broke that she died of a drug
overdose, obviously her parents, who she was very close to, she was like a daddy's girl,
very close to her parents, were heartbroken because it was a lie and they knew she was
sober and they were so confused.
They're like, what, what is it, how is this possible?
And did they do an autopsy?
They did an autopsy.
The parents had to sue the government for the results of their own daughter's extended
They would not turn it over.
And it turns out she did not have fentanyl.
She did not have methamphetamine.
She had a minuscule amount of caffeine and her Adderall, which was a prescription.
And what's Adderall for?
Adderall is for Attention Deficit Disorder.
Yeah, exactly.
A lot of kids take Adderall.
But if you read on Wikipedia or in the New York Times, she was a drug addict that died of a drug overdose on the Capitol steps.
Adderall's not an addictive drug, right?
It's a prescription drug.
It's a prescription drug used for attention deficit disorder.
Some adults take it to act like speed.
But anyways, that's not what she died of.
It was fake newspaper.
So she had an amount of Adderall in her system.
Not enough to kill her.
Which was prescribed.
Right.
And not enough to kill her.
But the way the news reported it was that she died of this massive drug overdose.
Meanwhile we see her being beaten.
We see her being beaten.
I saw the video.
It's a little ridiculous.
It had to contribute to it.
They're beating the living daylights out of him.
I mean, I saw the video now from the other side of the tunnel, and I saw this guy comes out, and he comes out of nowhere.
He's a cop, but he doesn't look like the rest of them.
He's carrying a big gun.
Then all of a sudden, he's like, and he just starts firing pepper balls into the crowd like crazy at very close range.
And not only was it hitting people, it was hitting cops.
So they started panicking because they started breathing in the fumes.
Everybody started panicking, pushing, shoving.
it induced a stampede and Roseanne got hit with one of these pepper balls. She went down,
cops started pushing people, panicking. Everybody was pushed on top of her. People were trying
to drag her out and anybody that tried to drag her out was therefore beaten by a cop.
So that's one of the contributing factors to her death. And what topped it all off was
when she was finally pulled out, when she was finally come out of the, um, the bottom
This police officer just starts beating the living daylights out of her, really putting all her weight into it, clubbing her over the head, clubbing her in the body.
The video exists.
People could watch it.
I'm not making this up, even though no one's ever heard of it, I'm sure.
Roseanne Boylan was beaten by Lila Morris of the Metro PD.
I'm the person who put the first report out on this and identified Lila Morris from her badge number.
and put this news out there and we're going on two years later and I'm still
waiting for the mainstream media ever to acknowledge the fact that a second woman
was was killed that day. They have it and it's ridiculous it's really really sad.
The January 6th committee never mentioned it they said they wanted to
get to the bottom of what really happened on January 6th.
The January 6th committee was a complete miscarriage of justice and a group of criminals who were running it.
I mean, Shifty Schiff and... I mean, these people who had... This was like their third lie they were going through.
Right.
This is the Russian collusion group.
Right?
Pull up here and see what this is.
This is the Russian collusion.
This was the... The hard drive is a product of Russian disinformation, and Trump and Giuliani are Russian agents.
I mean, this is a group of committed, hardcore, corrupt liars.
And this was version number three or four.
And the cases they're bringing now are version five and six.
It's very sad that nobody, you know, I thought when we got back to the House that they would actually investigate that on select committee because it would be so easy to put all these people in jail.
Does that implicate the House too much?
Is it a little bit like that?
Originally, when I got the information on On Biden, which, believe it or not, goes back to 2018 or 2017, late 2017, 2018.
2018 or 2017 late 2017 2018 I brought it to a senator who told me it was very
serious but they wouldn't go into it because he was a senator they wouldn't
go into it because he was a senator. Right it's crazy. The guy is stealing money left and right
That's why it's even more important.
When I brought it to them, I mean the amount of money is not the colossal amount that it was now.
It was closer to about 8 to 10 million.
But that's still a hell of a bribe, 8 or 10 million dollars to a vice president.
I had five witnesses from Ukraine willing to testify to it.
Right, real witnesses, not hearsay witnesses.
Well, no, like live witnesses, not the shifty-shift whistleblowers who, when they have to come forward, don't come forward.
But I'm ready to go on under oath.
Yeah, no, I know.
And I think the American people really have to start pressuring the House to start investigating the January 6th trials.
Right.
I mean, this will affect President Trump, obviously.
They're trying to try him in Washington, D.C.
It's literally impossible to get a fair trial in D.C.
The judges are corrupt.
The judges are colluding.
The judges think that they're victims of January 6th.
And all of this needs to be exposed.
Why do the judges think they're victims?
Because you have to see some of these judges yelling from the bench.
I've seen it with my own eyes.
If a defense attorney tries to defend their client and say, my client was there exercising his First Amendment right, he believes that the election was stolen, this person will get an earful from the judge.
How dare you spread that lie in my courtroom?
We'll start yelling at the defense attorney, start reprimanding the defendant.
Literally, it's disgusting.
So they hate Trump, completely hate Trump.
And there's a lawsuit the state attorney general of DC brought against all of the January 6th protesters
and Trump saying that every single person that lives in DC is a victim and all the federal people who
work for the federal government are victims of January 6th.
If you're a victim, then how could you preside as a judge?
If you're a victim, then how could you be a jury member?
That's why these have to be moved to a neighboring state, like Trump said, West Virginia, or even better, one of the Dakotas, which are completely neutral as far as I'm concerned when it comes to jury.
Like, these people just mind their own business.
They don't really Get into it like we do here.
I think on the coast.
I think that the Ferris jury would be in the middle of the country somewhere.
Yeah, I mean it when these people are presented with watered down charges that still involve some penalties like maybe some jail or a lot of money or whatever.
And then they're presented with other prosecutions, like for felonies.
They sort of have to take it, otherwise they could be in jail for 20 years.
Right, no, everybody's taking plea deals.
Is there anybody there?
Well, I guess you have some people that'll go on a trial.
But is there anybody there that thinks they can get a fair trial?
The weird thing is, like, everybody thinks that their case is special, right?
Because they really believe they didn't do anything wrong, and most of them did not.
I knew in my civil case that I couldn't get a fair trial.
I mean, I knew that.
I mean, I'm a lawyer, a lawyer for a long time.
I see the results, and I knew that there'd be no chance that I'd ever get a fair trial.
Well, in D.C., it's impossible.
Literally, allegedly, 92% of them to 95 voted for Biden, supposedly.
And they're completely, absolutely biased.
I've seen it.
There's no way.
I represented a young woman who had been tortured in the D.C.
public school system for holding a Trump sign.
One time.
Right.
Tortured in a way that would make you sick.
And things were said about, like, one person wrote to her saying, you know, I really feel sorry this happened to you, but why did you think a Republican could go to school in the District of Columbia?
I swear to God!
Why did you think a Republican could go to school in the District of Columbia?
We're all Democrats.
That's crazy.
And you know what they're trying to do?
What does that mean?
What they're trying to do really is like they settle these precedents in the court because it's all about Trump.
They cannot wait to get him in that courtroom.
So the obstruction of justice to 1512 that he's being charged with, they've already found countless guy after guy.
Who walked in and took a selfie, walked out.
They found them guilty of 1512 obstruction of justice.
So you don't think Trump is going to get found guilty?
This is the way that they're- I don't think he has a prayer.
Right.
This is the way that they're in their head, the prosecutors.
Let's blow through two years of prosecutions, get these guys all found guilty on these charges, set these precedents with all these arguments that are completely unconstitutional to put them in jail.
Then when Trump comes to court, we already put all these guys away.
It's already in the court record.
And then they're going to use the same arguments they used against these guys against Trump.
Yeah, right now there's pending this thing about Trump can't defend himself publicly.
Yeah, right.
It's like a... It hasn't been decided yet, but I mean, how do you run for president if you can't defend yourself publicly?
I mean, isn't it taking away from him his ability to campaign?
I mean, one of the major issues in the campaign is their allegation that he committed these crimes.
He says, I didn't commit these crimes.
Doesn't he have to defend himself in the court of public opinion?
Right, of course, especially when you have the 99% of the news media that's saying the opposite.
Of course, the only person that will defend him is himself.
Yeah, and also it doesn't take into account the thousands of leaks from the special prosecutor.
Right.
They leak every day.
And thousands of leaks from the Biden administration.
Right.
How do people know all the facts of this case?
The only person who knew them was the prosecutor.
Right.
So they had to have come to them illegally.
So they can leak on you.
The press will not give up the name of the person who leaked, and you can't defend yourself.
Right, it's crazy.
It's literally lawless, and they're getting away with it, and we need the GOP, Kevin McCarthy, Jim Jordan, Comer, and Loudermilk, to stand up for us and to stand up for the American people and start looking into the January 6 trials, the lawlessness, because now they're coming after politicians, as you know, they're coming after Trump, they're coming after multiple people, and they will keep doing it until people put their foot down, until they have to actually account for the law.
You know, I do think the history of this will eventually be told.
But it may be too late to help anybody.
Except history.
Right.
I mean, what I'm afraid of is I feel like they're building layer upon layer of lies, and in the history books we're going to read, like, if we could fast forward a hundred years, our great-great-grandchildren will be reading about the insurrection of 2020, and Trump was this horrible, like, Hitler-like person, which is the opposite of true.
It's the opposite of true.
It makes me question history now, just because I've seen with my own eyes how they've completely manipulated history.
Doesn't it?
Well, I've seen how some of these other things have turned around.
I've seen how they've turned around on Biden and finally they're beginning to see the crimes that he committed that I was getting tortured for talking about five years ago.
And I see them starting to turn around on the election beginning.
You got yourself about 50% maybe a little bit more that now think the election was fixed.
I mean the election was so fixed.
It's ridiculous.
I mean it the evidence of it is overwhelming and they They just completely lie constantly.
Now they love to say there's no evidence against Biden.
They just make up these talking points and repeat them and repeat them.
I think what they're trying to convey to people, there isn't proof.
Evidence is a fact.
One single fact.
For example, the text that Hunter Biden writes, I give 50% to my father.
That's evidence.
Um, someone saying Joe Biden is the big guy who gets the 10% that's evidence, right?
There's so much evidence.
It's ridiculous.
There are thousands of pieces of evidence and these people I don't know if they're morons or this is on purpose.
It's like out of 1984, like the New York Times are intelligent people and they'll write no evidence and you could put in front of them all this evidence, all the things.
I just told you there's a money laundering transaction.
Government of Latvia writes to the government of Ukraine, says Burisma is guilty of money laundering and some of that money went to the Bidens, including Joe.
It's a piece of paper.
Official.
You can enter it as a document in court.
It's evidence.
Not only is it evidence, it's conclusive proof that Joe Biden got money.
Right.
And they keep saying, oh, there's no proof he got money.
I've seen the bank records.
That's evidence.
And they'll say, well, the records are wrong.
How do you know the records are right?
Well, because they came from the bank, the same way we know records are right in any truck.
And if there are enough of them, they corroborate each other.
They should call all these people on a bench and do what they did with the January 6th unselect committee and put this in front of America.
These witnesses are more credible than the witnesses they had for that committee.
You know, but I'm sure that the news will probably find a way to try to not air it.
They wouldn't cover it.
They wouldn't cover it, and somehow they would ban, maybe Newsmax would cover it, or they'd ban Newsmax.
Or they would try to arrest one of the witnesses.
They will arrest a witness, I guarantee, because that's the type of stuff that they're doing.
They're arresting witnesses.
In January 6 trials, when someone's about ready to take the bench and testify, they will get arrested.
Literally, get arrested.
And they also did this, Mueller did this too, and it's very, very interesting.
They say, you know, if Trump If Trump says I'm innocent and the person who says that I'm not is lying, he's trying to obstruct the witness.
Well, suppose Trump is innocent and he's fighting for his innocence.
I mean, you're assuming he's guilty.
Like, when Trump would say that Michael Cohen is lying when Michael Cohen says X, they say, well, now he's obstructing.
No, he's not.
He's telling the truth.
He's defending himself.
Suppose someone says you robbed a bank and you didn't.
And you say, that person's lying.
I was, I didn't, I was in, I was in Puerto Rico when the bank was robbed.
And you were, but they say, no, you're lying.
Right?
I mean, it's crazy.
You can't defend it.
You are entitled.
I've never heard of the rule.
That a defendant can't defend himself before trial.
And by the way, the government doesn't get a fair trial.
The Constitution of the United States does not guarantee the United States government a fair trial.
Nor a speedy trial.
We're not a constitution that was built to protect the government.
You get it?
The Constitution was built to protect you and me.
There's no right of a fair trial for the government.
There's no right to a speedy trial for the government.
The government's gotta take whatever happens.
A defendant has every right, he has every right to try to pollute the jury pool if he wants to.
And if he's polluting the jury pool just by protesting his innocence, then what you've done is you've taken a person who is presumed innocent, and you've made him guilty before trial.
Because you're taking him protesting his innocence, Let's take Trump.
Trump is going to protest his innocence.
You're saying he's obstructing justice if he does that.
Well, then you're assuming that he's guilty.
He has every right to defend himself in the court of public opinion, because he has every right to protect his reputation.
Because even if he gets acquitted later, if he doesn't defend himself in the court of public opinion, they'll think he's guilty forever.
I remember when Secretary Donovan got acquitted, and he said, where do I go to get my reputation back?
Everybody's going to believe I'm guilty anyway.
You have every right to defend yourself in the court of public opinion.
You have every right to defend your reputation.
And the government's just got to take it.
The government has to have a strong enough case.
I mean, I had very, very highly publicized trials.
The Mafia and the Commission of the Mafia, the closest and the biggest politicians in New York, Nazis.
Every one of those cases, they tried against me in the press.
They're lawyers.
You can't imagine what I was called and the things that were said about my case and my witnesses.
I never went to court to stop them from doing that.
I just beat the living daylights out of them in court.
Because you probably had evidence on your side, but when you don't have truth on your side, you have to... I couldn't imagine that a judge would shut them up.
Why would a judge do it?
They have a right to do that.
They have a right to defend themselves.
It's my job to have enough evidence that I can overcome that.
And the government does not have a right to collude with the media or collude with each other and, you know, and pollute a jury, which they're doing.
Press never would do that.
In the past, the press wouldn't collude with the government.
The press would more likely collude with a defendant than with the government.
Right.
Well, the press is upside down.
They were always pro-defendant and anti-government.
This is purely the Trump derangement sickness.
It's worse than the pandemic.
Well, we have another video from January 6th concerning Roseanne Boylan.
And let's watch the tape.
And Kara, if you could walk us through what happened here following the clip.
We'll be right back.
Okay.
We don't need to do this!
The cop was beating her.
Can you walk us through what we just saw?
It's hard to see because it's pixelated because I believe that was supposedly the redacted version at the beginning.
But that was Lila Morris beating the living daylights out of Roseanne Boylan who died on the Capitol steps.
and she was laying there, she was blue, she was bleeding.
There's clearer videos I'll send you guys.
We actually have a crystal clear video of Roseanne being resuscitated or attempted to be resuscitated
by Trump supporters, not the police.
So that was the moment when she was beaten that America should have seen.
They should have aired that on the news.
They still haven't.
Nobody said Roseanne Boylan's name.
She died in the Capitol steps.
I mean, this is something, a historical thing that happened.
You would think that this would be newsworthy and people would have reported on it, but they didn't.
And it's been completely covered up.
So that's a police officer that's beating someone.
Let's watch this.
Why is it so, you can see it, but why is it so unclear?
They redact them.
That to me looks like a redacted tape where they probably released it at the beginning.
Someone probably foiled it and they released it with all that pixelation on it.
There's actually clearer videos now out there, but that was probably one of the... I think we have the clearer one in the podcast, don't we?
We do.
We do.
And you could go on Rudy's old podcast or you could go on Gateway Pundit, put in Roseanne Boylan in the search bar and you'll find all the videos.
We'll play it again because you can't see enough.
You can see enough of the hitting.
Stop!
Stop. Stop. Stop. Stop. Stop. Stop. Stop. Stop. Stop. Stop.
Stop. Stop. Stop. Stop.
Stop. Stop. Stop. Stop.
Stop.
We don't need to do this.
We don't need to!
I mean, people were pleading for her life from the crowd.
Who was saying that?
They were Trump supporters that were watching, and they were also her best friend, Justin Winchell, who was pleading, begging, crying with cops to please stop hitting her, to please to save her life.
So why were they hitting her?
It makes no sense.
We're trying to figure that out to this day.
From what you know of this, and you probably know as much about it as anyone, what started this focus on Roseanne Boylan as opposed to...
Your guess is... All I know is Roseanne, like I said before, went down with the pepper bowl underneath the crowd.
This gas is known to make people incredibly agitated and incredibly... And I saw an officer testify to it in court that this pepper spray not only makes people act out of the ordinary, but cops as well.
So I don't know if that played into it, but...
She was laying there helpless so it makes no sense.
Why would you beat up a person that's laying there clearly unconscious?
It absolutely makes no sense and these are questions that should be investigated.
Is there any video of any kind that shows her No.
The video shows the opposite.
She literally just walks up with everybody else kind of peeking over, she's wearing these American flag sunglasses with her ponytail, looks completely innocent, just looking over and then all of a sudden all hell broke loose and she was just in the wrong place at the wrong time and there was no reason for that woman to be beating her like that, none whatsoever.
She was unconscious, she was laying there, she was bleeding.
I just want to play the first 10 seconds again because it's just... There's no explanation on why they focused on her.
No explanation.
It's so clear.
That is a police officer.
I just want to play the first 10 seconds again.
Was she hitting her with something?
She was hitting her with a stick.
Yeah, that was a stick.
It was a long stick.
The stick actually, on the fourth or fifth strike, the stick broke.
That's how hard she was hitting her.
It snapped.
That thing originally, the thing we saw coming down.
It was a stick.
A police baton?
No, it was a stick.
I don't know where.
No, it wasn't a police baton.
It was a stick.
I don't know where she got it.
Oh, it was a stick.
Police officer Lila Morris of the Metro PD, she has not been investigated.
If you Google her, she'll come up as the hero that was honored at the Super Bowl by Mayor Bowser.
She needs to be investigated and she needs to testify before Congress, but of course they have not yet Looked into this and nobody's mentioned Roseanne Boylan's
name in Congress at the January 6th committee I really had a lot of hopes that this year they were gonna
do that that this year Congress was actually going to investigate
January 6th fairly and Rudy I want to tell you that they have nothing to fear
I've heard from behind the scenes that they're afraid they're afraid of doing they don't want to touch January 6th
They're afraid so they're gonna just keep letting the left use January 6th against us to keep politicians out of
office You're gonna just let them do this because you're afraid?
It's mind-boggling to me, and this is what I'm hearing from The Undercurrent, and I speak to people, like, as sources, and this is what they're telling me.
And they're telling me that we have to pressure McCarthy.
Or get rid of him.
Maybe they're afraid of being framed.
They do frame people.
I mean, they are very much afraid.
I mean, when you talk to people, They're afraid that they're not going to get elected because they're standing with insurrectionists that never happened.
That's what they're afraid of.
They're embarrassed.
This incident hasn't been completely... Some of the others have been turned around, but this hasn't been turned around yet.
This hasn't been turned around.
There's so much stuff for them to literally expose, the corruption that went on that day and the cover-ups that went on that day, and will leave the American public feeling very lied to.
And the American public does not like being lied to.
And when they realize that the Democrats are behind it, maybe they'll vote the other way.
And you would think that the Republicans would put two and two together, but they're not.
Mayor, what if that was a Black Lives Matter protest in the summer of 2020, and Roseanne Boylan was a black person?
You know, the media coverage.
Would be sentenced to 50 years in jail.
But on every news channel that night.
Yeah, and how about if Ashley Babbitt were a Black Lives Matter person, and the other guy was a white cop, and the Black Lives Matter person didn't have a gun, didn't have a record, was 5'2", and there were somewhere around 10 cops in the vicinity that could help the cop, Who had to be in fear of his life in order to shoot her.
And who, by the way, I read the grand jury testimony.
He failed to testify that he was in fear of his life.
So, I mean, maybe he'll remember it now?
But he couldn't possibly testify that he was in fear of his life.
And if I recall correctly, there was grand jury testimony from other officers that there was nothing about it that put any of them in fear of their lives.
So, it would have been at least a manslaughter conviction.
Well, you know, one of the crazy excuses I heard someone say in the leftist media, oh, maybe these cops, because the woman who beat Roseanne was African-American, maybe she felt threatened because of the white supremacy and she went crazy.
Like, they'll say anything.
Well, yeah, well, the cop that shot Ashley was black also, but he couldn't have been afraid of anything.
He was on the other side of the wall.
There was nobody threatening on that side of the wall except a bunch of other cops.
He couldn't have been in fear of anything.
And it looks, to a trained eye, it looks like a setup.
Right.
There were so many things about January 6th that were set up.
100%.
It looks 100% like a setup.
Yeah, I mean there's no way again that Sullivan knows that gun is coming out unless he was told.
And maybe that's a good spot to pick up our coverage tomorrow night and we'll gather some footage.
Kara, if you wouldn't mind sharing some of that with us, we'll be able to play some of the clearer, more recent footage that's been released unredacted.
And, wow, I mean, again, this person, again, Roseanne Boylan, right?
How many people don't even recall, don't remember that that person died?
And it's been covered up and it would destroy the media's narrative and the Democrat narrative if they showed a video of what this officer apparently did to this protester.
Do they have some explanation for why they don't, do they say she wasn't killed inside the Capitol?
Have they ever been asked?
Yeah, what have they said?
No one's been questioned about that.
Does anyone question them?
Nobody holds them accountable.
This is why the House needs to hold them accountable.
Please call Speaker McCarthy.
Where was that location where they... That was at the West Capitol steps.
There's a tunnel.
Let's play the other video.
So this other, shorter video doesn't really show as much, but may give us a better, kind of give us an idea of where we are.
Did Roseanne ever get... Save her!
A desperate friend pleads for the mob to back off.
I need somebody!
Help!
He screams again amid the chaos.
The trampled woman was identified as 34-year-old Roseanne Boyland from Georgia.
She was one of the victims.
Inducing a response in the crowd.
That video we just saw, was that after she had been beaten?
I think that was right after.
Yeah, they're begging someone to help.
They're begging people to help.
They're pleading.
It seemed like it had cleared out a bit.
It did.
And people were begging and pleading.
And there were a lot of women attacked that day.
Not just Roseanne, not just Ashley.
It was like a trend.
There's so much video of women being brutally beaten, punched.
And this video is out there.
Nobody airs it, but it does exist.
And a lot of the men in the crowd were reacting to what they were seeing.
And that's why a lot of them were agitated, being confrontational with cops.
It was almost like they were telling people, attack women.
And the men will get mad, and then we'll arrest the men, and put them, it's crazy, like you can't make this stuff up, and there's not much that the House has to do to expose all of this, they just have to get past that fear.
Please encourage Speaker McCarthy, call his office and tell him we want an investigation into the January 6th trials.
What will it take to get a real, from a process standpoint, what does it take to get a real investigation in Congress started?
The Speaker.
Speaker.
You need the Speaker on board, not members.
Pretty much, yeah.
The Speaker has to authorize it, right?
And particularly to get subpoena powers.
The subpoena powers, everything, because they need to get those communications, all those communications between Nancy Pelosi, between the Capitol Police.
Are all those destroyed?
Who knows?
They destroy whatever they want.
But I mean, I don't know if they're destroyed.
They're worried these House districts, these so-called, you know, middle-of-the-road districts, they're worried.
They're telling McCarthy, you can't do this.
If you do it, you'll lose these districts in the upcoming election, and you'll lose the speakership in a Democrat I guess Jeffries will take over.
They have to double down and they just have to take cues from Trump.
You know, when Trump just goes for the truth, he says it, it's the truth, that's it.
Stop, like, sitting on the fence.
Even if it involves a risk, right?
Even if it does take a little bit of a risk, because the media is going to hammer us.
But maybe it may, or is it not worth it at times, Kara?
Is it not worth it to maybe even take that risk?
The American people have heard that these people are capable of doing anything, right?
They have heard evidence Probably more evidence about the millions of dollars the crooked Biden administration took than evidence against anyone sitting in jail.
I have never had a case in all my years as a prosecutor with the amount of evidence that exists against Joe Biden as a massive bribe taker.
And maybe even guilty of treason in his dealings with China and giving up the Bagram Air Base, which is only 400 miles from China, refusing to investigate COVID, not stopping fentanyl when, I mean, China is killing 70, 80,000 Americans a year.
They don't have to shoot us in a war.
They're killing us and making billions on it.
And he's doing nothing.
The only reason it's happening is because he won't allow the Border Patrol to stop people from coming in.
And it gets so ridiculous, the Border Patrol was ordered to help them come in.
Right.
And meanwhile, he's got Americans dying of fentanyl.
What about the kid in New York, the one-year-old kid who dies of fentanyl in a daycare center?
Because right next to the daycare center, they're processing fentanyl.
That kid died because of Joe Biden.
That fentanyl nine times out of ten wouldn't be here without the border being open.
And it comes from China.
And he doesn't say anything about it.
And is it a coincidence that he got 31 million dollars from China?
He got 31 million dollars from China.
He gave up an airbase 400 miles from China.
Who in God's name would give up an airbase 400 miles from China but a trader?
Are you out of your mind?
You've got to be completely out of your mind to give it up.
And then who would go along with it?
I remember Milley saying something weird, too, when he said if Trump attacked China, he would let China know.
You're a general.
Nobody questions him about it.
I don't understand how the generals remain there.
After he gives up that airbase.
Right.
Leaving $85 billion worth of arms behind.
I don't know, if you ever watched a war movie, every kid knows you burn the stuff.
You know, I wanted to tell you about one, I know we're coming to an end to your podcast, but just because you're a very, very accomplished prosecutor, I wanted to tell you about an argument that was made at one of the trials that I saw, which was because the five proud boys that were there that day, the four of the five, the fifth person they didn't even know, because those four guys never showed any violence and one of them wasn't even there, they made up this new thing and I think they're going to use it against Trump in his trial.
It's called the tools theory.
Meaning that just because you're not there, you could use people in the crowd as your quote-unquote tools.
So Enrique Tarrio and the other three Proud Boys were found guilty of breaking things that they didn't break, attacking people they didn't attack, because somebody else in the crowd did it.
And they had absolutely no ties to anyone in the crowd, but the prosecution painted that by this tools theory, by a person through a person through a person.
So say me, I say seven, you know, whose house?
Our house, in a microphone.
And then The person hears it.
They fist bump somebody.
Somebody looks to the next person and says something.
The third person breaks the window.
I'm responsible, as the person who said, whose house?
Our house, for that person breaking the window.
And because of that, they got terrorism charges, enhanced terrorism charges.
They never broke anything.
They never touched anyone.
But they were responsible, they said, for other people in the crowd that did through the tools theory, which I'm 100% certain that they are going to use against Trump.
And that was just testing ground, that trial.
They used Enrique Tarrio as a pseudo-Trump.
to test out this unconstitutional tools theory.
I mean, that's a form of incitement, but very generalized.
I mean, the only way that would work is if you were on a video or an audio and said, you know, go shoot Mary Jane.
They didn't say anything like that.
In other words, the theory is they generally incited them to doing this.
And as a result of that, they did this damage and therefore they're responsible for it.
Right.
But they're saying, through a person, through a person.
That's how much they have to stretch it because they never even saw them talking to the person who broke the window.
So they said, it's through a person, through a person, through a person, could become your tool.
And then the judge, I'm going to wrap up with this, said to the jury before, jury instructions.
Did he really charge a jury that?
He told the jury, there doesn't have to be a conspiracy for you to find them guilty of a conspiracy.
A conspiracy doesn't even have to be spoken.
If they were even just thinking the same thing, even though they never spoke about it, if they were both of them thinking about going in the Capitol, then it could be a conspiracy.
So they found them guilty of seditious conspiracy.
That's an interesting... For a conspiracy to exist, there has to be an agreement between two or more people to commit a crime.
They changed the rules for this case.
Now, can that be implicit?
Gosh, that's awfully dangerous.
Very dangerous.
Because you generally don't get convicted for what's in your mind.
Exactly.
I mean, suppose somebody's walking down the street and says, I want to kill Mr. Jones.
He actually says it and he really does.
But before he goes any further, he says, nah, I don't want to do that.
Is he guilty of attempted murder?
It's basically saying that they're asking the jury to read people's minds and make up their own predictions.
Oh, well, that guy... It's actions.
It's actions that... There are two parts to a crime.
It's called the act and the mental element.
Actus rei is mens rei.
You gotta have both.
You can't have one or the other.
You have to mentally understand you're doing something wrong.
And sometimes you have to have the specific intent to do it wrong.
And then you have to do it.
Can't be one or the other.
You can't fantasize a crime.
If people got convicted on their fantasies, maybe the whole world would be in jail.
Which is what they would like.
Except for Joe Biden.
And then Joe could feel normal.
The stretch is, though, that even if they're saying that they thought of it, but even if they thought of it, they didn't commit a crime.
Other people did.
So by, you know, degrees of separation, they're still responsible.
I can't imagine unless the Court of Appeals for the District of Columbia is completely crazy, they're going to affirm that.
They are.
And they did.
And it's now set as precedent for the Trump trial.
I know the district court did.
But has that been upheld on appeal?
It hasn't.
I'd faint if they upheld it on appeal.
I have a feeling they're going to because they're completely lawless.
I can't imagine how you can have an implied conspiracy.
It's so dangerous.
It is so, so dangerous when you start reading people's minds and convicting them.
And it really is a violation of the First Amendment also.
It's a violation.
You have a right to your thoughts.
You have a right to your thoughts.
And nobody should be able to discern what you're thinking.
In any place but a country run by Stalin or Hitler.
Well, I'm so glad that you're on top of this because I do believe, but I'm an optimist, you know that, I do believe this is going to come out.
I think this is the hardest one.
I think the election was the second hardest one and hasn't come out yet, but it's coming out.
The election is starting to come out.
You know, once they got caught hiding the hard drive and having to validate it, You can say to yourself, anybody that would do that, anybody that would take evidence of a hundred crimes by a presidential candidate, published in the oldest newspaper in the United States and cover it up and have a whole government conspiracy to do it with the 51 intelligence agents.
I mean, they'll do anything.
I mean, to do that, these are very, very dangerous criminals.
They've become complete criminals.
There's nothing left of their patriotism, of their decency, of their caring for the United States.
You just wouldn't do this if you had the slightest bit of caring for the United States, or for yourself, or any self-respect.
Once you've done that, you'll do anything to cover it up.
And they're gonna do anything to stay in office because if they're not anymore then they're
going to be exposed and go to jail so they're going to do everything they can to stay in
power next year.
Yeah and they want to keep him out because maybe he's the only one.
When you're telling me nobody will go into you know what happened on January 6th.
He's probably the only one that would.
And he said he'll pardon January 6ers and he'll have a special counsel look into each and every case and immediately pardon people which needs to happen.
You know, if you took a good lawyer who had the usual protection of, you know, qualified immunity so they wouldn't have to be afraid of... He could make this case in six months.
I mean, I could right now, but in any preparation, begin prosecuting Biden and get him convicted in a month.
There isn't a jury.
It would have to be outside of D.C.
In D.C.?
I'd have no chance.
I mean, I could have pictures of the money being handed to him and him kissing Zelenshevsky, and they wouldn't convict him.
Right.
I mean, these cases would be left out of courts and in any other district besides D.C.
It's like, literally, there's no evidence for these cases.
The witnesses are all committed.
You know the indictment, like the indictment in Georgia and the one in DC, like there's 78 and 80 and 90 pages of all garbage.
The indictment of Hunter Biden is three pages.
It's three little pages.
It's big.
Because they don't want to put in any, you know why?
Because they don't want to put in any prejudicial facts.
The reason they have this in it, because they want to do what they're trying to stop Trump from doing.
They want to prejudice the jury.
That whole big long indictment like that.
That is intended to prejudice the jury.
Now they're going before the judge and saying, we should be allowed to do that.
Even though that's a violation of his rights.
But he can't do it.
Even though they have no right to a protection like that.
And the judges, because they're so warped.
I mean, the judge should just laugh him out of quarter.
I'm not going to stop him.
What are you crazy?
I'm not going to stop him from speaking.
I mean, if you do that, then every presidential candidate, they'll bring a case against him so he can't run.
Well, let me just, let me just get, I have to, I have to do one little thing.
I'm going to give people the six things that they should know about that, give the six things they should know about, but they're not going to hear from the crooked media.
Well, I think they probably did hear about the daycare center where a one-year-old baby was killed because they were cutting drugs with fentanyl in the room next to it.
A lot of people thought it was an accidental death.
It is not.
The three people involved in that daycare center, two of whom have been arrested, are fentanyl dealers, drug dealers.
Who also had a daycare center and had a spot inspection three days earlier and nobody found the cutting room for fentanyl, which is right next to the daycare room.
So somebody's got to figure out who the hell did the spot inspection.
And, uh, was it competent?
Was it corrupt?
I mean, drug dealers do pay bribes.
I'm not saying anything.
All I'm saying is, uh, don't be idiots.
Huh?
Number two, We paid $6 billion in ransom to Iran.
First of all, I thought we didn't pay ransom.
Jefferson kind of said we shouldn't.
But in any event, do we know that that money is going to go to kill us, as well as Jews?
It goes to Iran.
Iran is the largest sponsor of terrorism in the world.
No one disputes that.
What does a sponsor of terrorism do?
It takes money, it gives it to terrorists.
Now, Obama made it easier.
He gave it to them in cash, for which he definitely should have gone to jail.
The only people who deal in cash are drug dealers, organized criminals, and crooked politicians.
He sent them over a billion dollars in cash.
So that gets put in, and what is Iran dedicated to?
Killing Jews, killing Americans.
And it gives it to Hezbollah, and they kill Jews, and they kill Americans.
I mean, how many Americans did Soleimani kill?
Luckily, Trump got him eliminated.
By the way, Biden was opposed to that.
Biden was opposed to killing Soleimani, who killed hundreds of Americans.
Do you have any idea what side he's on?
I don't.
Illinois has now done away with cash bail.
That's because they don't have enough murders on Saturday.
I mean, Governor Pritzker, who looks like he's got half a brain, and it's in the wrong place.
I mean, look at his body shape.
It looks like his brain is in the wrong place.
He signed a bill.
No bail!
They don't have enough murders in Chicago.
There aren't enough black kids getting killed, Pritzker.
You want more killed?
I mean, you set a record a couple of months, a couple of years ago.
You want to break it for murder?
What is wrong with you?
Only thing I can, only defense I can have you is you're stupid.
Good news, Ken Paxton was acquitted.
You're probably not going to find out about that.
Oh, yeah.
And the Wall Street Journal does an article saying, well, he's guilty anyway.
Even if you get acquitted, you can't be... If you're a Trumper, even if you get acquitted, you're guilty.
And finally, Pocahontas.
You remember Pocahontas.
She's the Indian girl, the Native American senator from Massachusetts.
I don't know her Native American name.
If I did, I would properly use it, so I call her Pocahontas.
Well, Pocahontas accused Musk of doing terrible things to Ukraine because he would not allow them to use his satellite so they could conduct a sneak attack on Russia.
It turns out two things that Pocahontas missed, I guess.
She was communicating by smoke signals or something.
So she missed the following.
Number one, he would have to have changed and reset his satellite or wherever it was in order to do that.
In other words, it wasn't that he refused to let them use it.
He would have to have affirmatively done things to let them use it so they could do the bombing.
And number two, it's against the law for a civilian to get involved in a war unless he has the permission of the President.
And the President didn't give him the permission.
It would have to be even a lot more than a permission.
Maybe she was trying to set him up to get him sent to jail, because you're going after Musk almost like he's Trump now.
I don't know if you've noticed that.
He's under investigation by this agency, that agency, some other agency.
They're putting out all kinds of things on his personal life.
I mean, this guy, I mean, this guy's got the money to defend himself, but still, it ain't very pleasant.
And it sure isn't very American.
Well, those are just a few of the things that you will not see in the New York Times tomorrow.
So come back to us.
Tomorrow night, we'll continue with these terrible revelations that you've got to hear about, we've got to dig them out, we've got to get them out.
The only way we prevent this from happening again is doing that.
The only way we become America again, not just even making it great, making it normal, is by getting these things out.
We keep them hidden, we'll remain a fascist country, which in certain respects we are now.
So God bless you.
I'll be on wabcradio.com tomorrow at three.
I'll be back here at eight tomorrow night and we'll be getting you the news that is kept from you because we are no longer A country dedicated to free speech, or at least the administration running the country, is a regime, not an administration.
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