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Aug. 10, 2023 - Rudy Giuliani
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America's Mayor Live (E209): A Break Down of the Biden Crime Family
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Good evening, this is Rudy Giuliani with America's Mayor Live from New Hampshire.
And tonight, I think our story for tonight to start with is $20 million for the Biden crime family.
This is a combination of some that you've seen in a different light.
Some new ones but the point of it is and it gets a little confusing because people calculate this money differently.
This is the money that they can show going into the bank as opposed to some of it is money that is reflected in the hard drive and they haven't been able to trace it into the bank yet.
So this amount of money Is 20 million additional discovered.
Now you'll see this gets us to about 30 million for the Biden crime family.
I promised you we would get way above 30 million.
Just stay with us.
They're putting these out once every two weeks.
So I calculate that we'll be probably at the beginning of the fall when we hit, uh, well, no, we'll be over 30.
We'll be over 30 million probably in about two weeks, but we won't get to the final number probably into the fall.
Maybe not for a while because, you know, there's also this whole issue with regard to the offshore bank accounts, that there is a witness who promises to be able to open those accounts and trace those accounts, not just for Biden, but for others.
Don't think that Zolchevsky was just paying off Biden.
I mean, Zolchevsky is a complete crook.
And, um, oh, crook is a mild word.
He's an organized criminal.
And, um, he had many, many things that he had need protection from, and it was his, it was his, uh, habitual practice to pay off public officials.
And there are more than enough public officials like Biden who are You know, crooked all their lives and in it for money.
And that's what the Bidens were all about.
I mean, that's sounds like Hunter Biden's whole life was, um, drugs.
Uh, I'm not going to, let's put sex aside, but I mean, there's, there's enough of that, that seeps through from the pictures you get to see.
And there's enough just to make a general comment that, um, The relevance of that part of this case, because it's so extensive, and because it involves perversion, is its effect on national security.
The fact that it's surely in the hands of the Red Chinese, the Russians, the North Koreans, and even in the hands of the Ukrainians, which makes negotiating with Joe a rather easy thing, meaning you got them by the We got them backed up in the corner, let's put it that way.
So this $20 million, I don't know best how to break it down for you.
Maybe we'll try this.
We'll just go with this here if you can see it.
It might be a little hard to see because I have it on a small little board here, but it'll help me at least as I go through it.
Can they see that, Ted?
How about the getter folks?
Can they see it?
And I can just keep it up.
I was going to leave it like that.
I was gonna try to put it like that in a steady like in a steady place.
All right.
Keep it up, Brian.
Okay, good now.
I'll move here so I can see it better, and we'll go through it.
So here's what we've got.
Let's go with Ukraine first, because we're most familiar with Ukraine.
The Ukraine we're talking about 2014 to 2019.
2014 to 2019.
So what do we have now?
What do we have now?
Provable, with documents, so that we can go to court, we get a market exhibit, so this needs to be put into evidence.
Let me put it that way, because I understand it best that way.
This is now court-ready, prosecutable-ready documents.
So, if you charge that he took 20 million in bribes, here's how you would prove the monetary aspect of the case, or part of the monetary aspect.
Ukraine, between 2014 and 2019, There are two big accumulations.
$3.3 million from Burisma to Biden.
And that took place in 2014 to 2015.
2014 to 2015.
$3.3 million.
Now, why is that important?
This is the amount that the corrupt Justice Department has let the statute of limitations run on by telling the Internal Revenue Service not to charge him with this.
This is the part that they wanted to charge him with, according to the whistleblowers, and that the Garland and the US attorneys in, I guess it was in Delaware, may have also been in Los Angeles, declined to go with the case, even though Garland had lied to us and told us that Weiss could go with any case he wanted.
Well, they had a case prepared for $3.3 million, And they never went with it.
So now that is barred by the statute of limitations, at least a direct charge and the tax charge, but I'm not really worried about that.
There's a way to pick that up.
And I'm going to show you that in a minute.
Uh, then, uh, then another 6.5 million, according to the whistleblowers, uh, from Burisma.
So, um, So now we have, according to them, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9.8 million from Ukraine, from Burisma.
This is money from the crookedest, most dishonest, most dishonorable thief in Ukraine.
Just that alone is quite a thing for Biden to be involved with.
Just think of all the thieves that he meets with, talks to.
I mean, he spends most of his time talking to international criminals, and we're wondering, did he get any of the money?
Aren't the people who defend him really silly?
What honest man would be spending his time with Mykola Zlochevsky?
This is also Obama's point man in Ukraine.
He would necessarily know who Zlochevsky Was.
When I began my investigation of this in 2018, I found out who Zlochesky was in the first five minutes.
Of course, I have quite a bit more of an active brain than Biden, but I mean, after five years, one would think, I mean, you'd probably have to pound it into him, show him pictures, say it to him over and over again.
Maybe Jill could do it while she's feeding him.
But he would have known that Zlochevsky is one of the biggest criminals there.
If he didn't know it, the State Department told him several times and warned him about his son's involvement with this big crook.
And why you would have a son who's addicted to drugs dealing with a big crook not realize you were destroying him?
It only is true because we now know that he's an evil man, Biden.
So that's 9.8 million from this crooked company.
Now there's an amount that they have, there are two amounts that they have left out that have to be calculated.
One is a definite addition and the other may be a bit of an overlap.
The definite addition is the $3.1 million Latvian money transaction, which is dated on February of 2016.
It's a communication from Latvia to Ukraine, laying out a Money laundering transaction of Burisma is done by Kolomoisky, who, by the way, in case you'd like to know it, was the person in Ukraine closest to Zelensky, and he was Zelensky's mentor, and he's the reason Zelensky is worth the millions and millions of dollars he's worth, and it reportedly has several mansions.
Oh, I guess you didn't know that about Zelensky, did you?
But whether he's involved in the corruption or not, I have no proof of.
Whether he knows about it is, without doubt, correct.
And whether he has very close connections and has gotten benefits from also one of the most corrupt men in Ukraine, Mr. Kolomoisky, is 100% true.
And whether he owes Mr. Kolomoisky is also true, since Kolomoisky was exiled until Zelensky got elected because he was so crooked and Zelensky has brought him back.
So I say that because this whole Ukraine situation becomes a matter of national security when we realize that Biden is not free to deal with Ukraine in a way that is without question.
Could easily be compromised into not putting the best interest of the United States first, since Ukraine has knowledge of massive fraud, bribery, and financial crimes on the part of the President of the United States.
The $3.1 million money laundering transaction should really be added to the total amount that we know about Biden, which would take us over $12 million there.
Then, of course, we have the FBI 1023, in which Zelensky lays out a $10 million bribe, five to Hunter, five to Joe, at the very beginning to get them to agree to kill the case on Burisma when and if it becomes necessary.
Whether that's been counted twice or not, I'm not sure.
I don't think it's all been counted.
So these will have to be reconciled.
But you can be sure he got at least 12 million from Ukraine.
An obscene amount of money.
And all of that All of the amounts I'm talking about, but a very, very small amount, was while he was Vice President of the United States of America.
Romania, on May 2017, he got a payment of 3.1 million from Popoviciu, probably before Popoviciu went to jail.
It went to Rob Walker, and one third of it went to Hunter, And Hunter, and part of it went to Haley, Haley Biden, who was Beau Biden's wife, and then eventually Hunter's girlfriend.
On and off was a whole unfortunate and tragic episode of drug addiction, it being thought that he lured her into it, or maybe she was already, don't know.
But there are just way too many episodes.
of illegal drug use, as well as a whole situation with possession of a gun illegally, for which he is going to be allowed to get away with it.
Because he's a drug addict, but the charge is designed for drug addicts and to deter drug addicts from getting guns.
So the idea of letting them off the prosecution of that one is completely inconsistent with the purpose of the statute.
And also, if you're going to let people off, you would let people off who were minor drug addicts.
This guy is a 30-year-long drug addict who dropped out of the military for being a drug addict, who has pictures of massive abuse as a drug addict, driving his automobile at 80 and 90 miles an hour.
More than one picture with him smoking a crack pipe while he's fooling around with drugs.
I mean, that's pretty...
In other words, when you think about a possible diversion in a statute or declining prosecution, you look for extenuating circumstances, not aggravating circumstances.
With regard to this 10-year felony statute, there are just aggravating circumstances, yet the Justice Department is going to let him off the hook for it completely, so he is in charge with a felony, when he should be charged with this Probably more than just about anyone's been charged with it because of his long history of drug addiction and the way in which he abused the use of drugs, drove automobiles and put people's lives at risk.
It also appears to have lured other people into the use of drugs, as well as, according to a psychiatrist, used it in a way that was dangerous to children.
I mean, there's absolutely no reason for not prosecuting other than corruption.
I mean, the case is such a strong case that you can only explain this as Garland's Justice Department stinks to high heaven.
But from Russia, he received $3.5 million from Yelena Baturina, who was the wife of the mayor of Moscow, who was very close to Putin.
Now, this was 750,000 to Archer, 2,750,000 to Hunter and that and Hunter, Archer, and
of course, the Biden clan, the Biden crime family, subject to the formula given to us
by Hunter, which is 50% for Pop.
And this came while Pop was the vice president of the United States.
And, um, also seems to have bought for, uh, bought for, uh, Batarina constant, uh, immunity from sanctions because although she's, uh, uh, considerably more worthy of sanctions than many of the people that he's put on the list, she's constant.
What did Joe do for this?
Well, he kept her off the sanctions list because she pumped at least 3.5 million into the family.
Now, there also is another whole investigation and I've never seen it,
and nor do I have the details of it except a few little hints of it on the hard drive.
And it's, at 3.5 million seems to also have been connected
to many, many more payments from Russia, but I've never been able to get my hands on them.
And the reports that I see say they go up to as much as $100 million.
Let's not count them.
Let's count 3.5 million.
Then we have China.
And this group of documents and bank records, and China is going to also turn out to be considerably more than what I'm showing you, but this is the part that's provable right now.
And that's $3 million from the Chinese state energy company that went to James Biden, to Hunter Biden, and to, again, Haley Biden.
with the proviso of 50% for POP.
And that was in 2017, after Joe was out of office, but a deal that was largely negotiated and based on promises and things said and done while he was vice president.
And then another transaction of 5.1, again, at about that same time, that went into the Owasco Corporation, which is another one of these wandering corporations that Hunter has.
And Hunter, basically, you also can see that money coming out to the Biden crime family, again, subject to the proviso of 50% for POP.
Final country that we have in this list is Kazakhstan, and here what we really have is a bribe, a gift, whatever, but we have the exact amount of money that is necessary about, I think, $142,000 to buy a watch called a Fisker, which I'm not aware of, a car called a Fisker rather, which he traded in For one that I am more familiar with, which was the Porsche, and that's the one he kept driving around while influenced by drugs to the detriment of all the children and anyone else in that neighborhood because he could have killed them easily.
It is true.
There is a memo that does show that he poses a danger to children in a different respect, but we'll cover that at another time when you're ready for it.
It is impossible to believe how bad this family is, and it is also impossible to believe how and why people who consider themselves Americans cover up for them.
I only have to conclude that their ideology, their desire for power, their desire for money, their loyalty based on money or ideology to China has overcome any decency or morality that they have.
And this is the group from, I believe, Kazakhstan.
This is another example of Joe never met with or did business with any of the people that Hunter knew.
He never even met them, saw them, had anything to do with them, except there were about 18 or 20 of these pictures, like this one here.
These people look like they went to school with With Hunch's boyhood friends?
Or do they look like Kazakh crooks?
I don't know.
They look more like Kazakh crooks to me.
I think that was taken at Cafe Milano, where there were two Two gatherings of Biden and the organized criminals.
Apparently nobody does vetting for the vice president when he meets with people.
He meets with people who are members of organized crime, who are on the list of the State Department for people Americans shouldn't do business with.
Almost everyone at that dinner was a persona non grata that If I were having dinner with them, probably one of my friends would warn me not to go, like Bernie Kerry could call me or someone else and say, boy, you've got a big crook there.
Vice President met with them.
There are about five of them.
That'd be on the list of organized criminals.
Generally, vice presidents don't meet with organized criminals unless they're organized criminals themselves.
And another indication is the big fraud they're carrying on.
Some of this money went to a company that had, like, Bohai Harvest Thornton.
When you see the word Thornton in one of the laundered companies of the Biden crime family, you have there an associate member of the Biden crime family, who has quite an organized crime pedigree.
But the press won't tell you about it, even though it's about as newsworthy as you can imagine.
I think when I tell you this, for those of you that are fair-minded, you realize the kind of corrupt situation we're in.
Where you see money going to that Thornton thing, like from China, the guy who runs Thornton is a man named... Well, I'm going to take a short break.
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Oh, Obama.
Gosh almighty, that's gonna be a big one.
Well, welcome back, and just so you'd like to know, one of their partners in a number of their ventures, not all, so let's not make him a full member of the Biden crime family, is the nephew of Whitey Bulger, James Bulger.
Yes, the nephew of Whitey Bulger, one of the most notorious organized criminals in America during his era.
Just why the President of the United States, the Vice President of the United States, now President, would have his son, his son who gives him half his income, half his son's income, as a partner with Whitey Bulger has to give you an indication of the people they felt comfortable with, the people they had dinner with, and the people they did business with.
Pretty, pretty clear.
Pretty clear.
So now, what do we have ready, Ted?
Oh, I thought you said it was ready.
Oh, two minutes.
Okay.
Well, I want to, I want to go over one thing.
I want to go over one thing with you because it's going to, it's been used to really, really make something perfectly legal and normal, illegal, sound illegal, fake electors.
So they say fake electors as if that's, A conclusion based on something.
Fake electors are alternate electors.
They were not used in this election for the first time.
Donald Trump committed no crime, nor did anyone involved with him in doing it.
It was done based on a very well thought out and very well written memo available, open, notorious.
In order to be a fake elector, there has to be some fraud involved.
You'd have to be pretending they were really elected.
No one pretended they were really elected.
They were presented And sent in, and even the parliamentarian has made this clear that he understood, these were people that would get a chance to vote if there were a different decision made with regard to the state and the state by lawful authority was awarded to Trump, when in fact it had originally been awarded to
Um, uh, to, to Biden.
Now, in case you think he made this up, this was, this was based on a precedent in the, uh, election of 1960.
And, uh, Kennedy, uh, Kennedy did this, John Kennedy did this.
And eventually, um, although Nixon won the state, I, and I may have a reversed, but Nixon won the state originally, I believe on the original count, uh, Kennedy challenged it immediately.
By the time, they went through it, it takes time, and they're in court.
When the Electoral College was to vote, the state was still officially awarded to Nixon.
And a state of Hawaii, by the way.
And Kennedy put together an alternate slate of electors.
And why did he do that?
He did that because if, in the interim, he won the case, or for some other reason, the state was awarded to him, after the electoral college, had he not had an alternate slate, he would not have gotten those votes.
In other words, his electors would not have been put in the electoral, there would have been no electors put into the vote.
And the votes of the state of Hawaii would be discounted.
And then the question, which we don't know the answer to, is do you move the calculation for the majority Is it based on the actual number in the electoral college or the actual number of the votes?
I don't know the answer to that.
I'm not sure if Chesbrough ever got to the answer to that.
But his recommendation was in the states where you think there's a chance that you can overturn And you're not going to get it done by the Electoral College, but it could get done before the inauguration.
Put up the alternate slate, have them available, register them, and then if God is good and you get a change by the state legislature, you get a change by the courts, or you get a change by the Congress based on the Electoral Count Act, Then not only will that state be taken away from Biden, and electors will be put in and they'll get a chance to vote for Trump, and Trump will get the votes, just not have the votes taken out of the calculation.
That was it.
There was nothing else to it.
There's nothing that says that's illegal anywhere.
It's been done before.
It was done openly.
Nobody ever pretended it was anything else.
And any charge based on that is considerably more fraudulent than what they're charging.
It's part of their sickness.
They spend most of their time taking things that are not crimes and making them into crimes.
When they have, they are being buried to the point of Of not being able to breathe anymore in the mountain of evidence they have with crimes of the most serious nature by the man sitting in the White House.
Maybe that's why they do it.
That's why they do it.
And it sure isn't having the effect intended.
He's leading in every poll.
Some of them are ridiculous leads, like 40%, 50%.
Despite the fact that the press just loves to say, because I think, you know, if he wins by 30%, they're not going to acknowledge it.
He's ahead of Biden in more polls than he's behind.
They're close.
Biden's ahead in some.
But you count him up, he's ahead in more than he's behind.
Biden, and of course he's wiping out, he's wiping out, let me see if I can find it here.
He's wiping out our friend here.
Let's see.
I want to show you what we got.
This was sent around.
This was sent around New Hampshire.
This is his last gasp in New Hampshire.
I think this is a good one, by the way.
Cassandra sent this out.
Everybody in New Hampshire, every Republican, I guess, in New Hampshire Now I'm gonna ask Dr. Maria this, but I don't know if every Republican got it because they don't, I don't know if they have a list.
You know, you register like on election day.
You walk in and you say, I want to vote as a I want to vote as a Democrat or Republican, whatever, something like that.
But independents can vote in the primary here.
Here's the backside of it.
The backside of it tells you a bit of his, uh, bit of his history.
Uh, it kind of gives you, uh, the, the, you know, he had, he had a, he had a, um, did not have a privilege beginning.
Young Ron was an electrician assistant.
He played on the Yale baseball team, like President Bush 41, who was a member of their all-star team, might even have been a member of their Hall of Fame.
He was a very, very skilled first baseman and has a very famous picture with Babe Ruth.
I'm talking about Bush 41.
Then there's a picture of him in his comeback fatigues, And it says, Ron DeSantis knows the American dream takes grit.
He is way behind, not as far behind in New Hampshire as elsewhere.
So maybe there's a calculation here, which would be an indication of a somewhat rejuvenated campaign, that his campaign team, rejuvenated campaign team, has got a little bit more common sense than his original team.
Which I blame for some of the loss of the... You can't say he ever really had a lead.
You go back over 100 polls, there's one poll in which he was leading by 2%.
One.
There were a whole bunch at one time where Trump's lead was small.
Where Trump's lead was...
There were a few single digits.
Most of them were low double digits.
And then, of course, they ballooned out.
Started about two weeks before the first indictment.
So it's not just the indictment.
I think the indictment accelerated it.
Now the indictments are becoming almost counterproductive because if the Democrats
look carefully, if their objective was to get them nominated and then defeated,
unless somebody's playing around with the polls, it seems like the effect of the cases being seen
as fraudulent has leapt over into the Democratic side as well and the Independent side.
Because whereas he was behind Biden, he's now ahead of him.
And in some states, important states, more than just a marginal lead, there is, unless you want to go to sleep, there used to be only an effect on the Republican side.
You can now see an effect on the entire electorate.
And I, and I really do think if they pull off this case in Georgia, It's going to really be devastating for them because it's the silliest case of all.
First of all, you have three others.
Whatever additional is covered in this case is nothing compared to it really just as a repetition of the other three, except in Georgia.
When you have a federal case, what's the point of doing it in Georgia just to be vindictive?
Just to tie them up.
You've tied them up enough so that You're not going to get this case tried next year anyway.
Right?
Aren't they already talking about one in 2024?
So think about it.
You'll have four cases.
This one promises to have multiple defendants, which means it's going to be a big case.
If they tried them all next year, he might get two days to campaign.
And I can't believe that you can't go to court and get a court to declare that a violation of his constitutional rights, since it was all done after he was an announced candidate for president of the United States.
And unless a judge wants to be just a stiff, they really are marginal.
To me, they're non-crimes.
But the best you can say is they're marginal legal theories.
None of these cases put off until after the election would have the slightest effect on anything.
People will know about them before the election and can figure them into their decision the way they couldn't with a hard drive.
And then you'd have the people making the choice as opposed to a choice being made by a corrupt Justice Department.
Or a just department that, if it goes that way, no one will ever believe wasn't corrupt.
So this case coming up now is totally useless and cannot possibly be tried in time for the election.
Nor would it be necessary after the election because, let's face it, if he's convicted in the others, what's the point of bringing this one?
And if he's acquitted in the others, how could you in fairness bring it when it overlaps so much?
What, are you gonna take four shots at him?
After he's acquitted three times?
I can't believe that wouldn't be thrown out.
Or they wouldn't have the good sense to drop it.
So this is a pure publicity case, known as a publicity case.
A couple of little things.
that I will mention to you.
I was talking about DeSantis.
DeSantis dismissed another DA.
The one was in the Orlando area.
So that's a big.
And the DA was Monique Warrell.
And she was the local police union accuser of being soft on crime.
They called for the top, they called She called her out for not prosecuting Danton Veal, who was arrested in March for sexually assaulting a child while he was on bond.
And she let him out again!
Then, he killed police officers.
And the quote from the head of the union is, now two Orlando police officers' lives have changed forever.
Monique Worrell, soft on crime stance, has yet again let the citizens of Orlando down.
He originally had suspended Tampa area prosecutor Andrew Warren, and that was his refusal to charge anyone under the Florida Abortion ban.
He decided he'd be the legislature.
And both of them are Soros bought and paid for prosecutors.
Ron, by the way, and Vivek are so far the two that have signed the pledge to support the Republican candidate.
Now, you know, I I don't remember signing a pledge to support the Republican candidate in 08.
I think I agreed to, like at a debate, I think.
But on further reflection, and I guess I'd make that same decision then given the candidates, but you really should have the option of not supporting the candidate of your party.
Does it make you disloyal?
I think you're disloyal to your party if you put your party in front of the United States.
Does that make sense to you?
Being a good Republican first means being a good American.
That's why we say America first, not Republican Party first, right?
So I'm not sure I like that.
I used to.
It's a tough one because you want to make sure that people aren't invading your party whose objective is to ruin it.
At the same time, you've got to trust these people to have enough common sense and judgment so they should be able to make a decision based on what happens during the campaign.
So now, we're going to have a little fun.
We're going to take out our balance of nature, and Rudy's going to get rejuvenated so he can finish the show.
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If you'd like to get a little package to go with you, you get $25 off this.
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So, this, make sure you're taking this.
It's critical.
If you take any supplement at all, this should be the one.
You should take others, too.
There are others that are valuable, and you make that decision.
I'm not a doctor.
I can't.
I've actually talked to Dr. Howard, who is the instigator of this, the inventor of it, the genius behind it, who I think you see often on commercials, and we'll have him on to talk about this, so you're even better educated on this.
But I asked him to give me a list of, because you can't, I mean, it's almost as if there are too many, right?
Too many of these that are Listed for you and I asked him to give me the sort of a list of the most critical and then if you're inclined to do more, what would the more be?
And he's done that for me and maybe maybe and I'm not going to give that to you.
He did it for me and he may have done it with me in mind.
So if I give it to you, it might not be the right one for you.
But when he's on the show, I'll ask him that.
And I'll ask him questions like, are there some general ones that everybody should be taking?
And are there ways in which you can find out what would be the best program tailored for you?
But for sure, before you do that, get started with something that is universally necessary, which is to have lots of fruits and vegetables.
There's a, uh, any number of doctors who would tell you, you can't have enough.
Probably we all have too little.
So this make sure you get enough.
You get there.
I take, I, um, I guess you, people take different amounts.
I take four a day, um, two in the morning of the fruit.
Here's the fruit.
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Two of the veggies.
Bye.
So I take, all together, I take eight a day.
There are people who take four a day, and there are people who take 12 a day.
And I'll have Dr. Howard discuss that with you, you know, when he's on.
And this is, This is something you might also consider.
This is a fiber and a spice.
And I take that once a day.
So, Ted.
How do you feel now that we are here in New Hampshire?
I think it's appropriate that we have a little discussion of, um, of New Hampshire.
And I did, I talked only about, um, uh, Donald Trump and Ron DeSantis.
DeSantis moved around his, moved around his staff.
He got rid of Janera Peck, although she's like number three or four on the campaign now, she's not gone completely.
And he's brought in James Uthmeyer.
This is like day 21 of the reboot, Mayor.
Not really.
It seemed to me like it happened just a day or two ago.
Yeah, well, they just moved Mrs. Peck.
But didn't they announce something three weeks ago how they cut a third of the staff?
They were making all these changes.
They were going to become this leaner, meaner machine.
Hasn't happened yet.
There's still a lot of time left and people we've talked to, of course, nothing like being on the ground in New Hampshire.
We've gotten to know a lot of folks from all these different campaigns.
We'll protect their anonymity from gossiping with them.
Maybe we'll have some of them on tomorrow.
They're all afraid of talking publicly.
I don't know why, because they're afraid they're going to be able to say something wrong.
They're afraid they might say something wrong to their candidate.
Everybody's starting to get nervous.
Don't you think?
People start dropping out, right?
And so folks are switching teams.
No, no, they get nervous.
They get nervous.
A lot of people, I mean Trump makes fun of it, but a lot of people are calling up and Trump says, did you give money to DeSantis?
Uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, Not me, no!
Funny how that works with the polling.
So I am hearing folks are leaving DeSantis and Droves.
And by the way, Trump will gladly accept you.
He has no, he's not.
It's a game of addition, right?
You're entitled to have made a mistake.
And sometimes they're the best supporters.
Nikki Haley I'm hearing is scaling, starting to scale back.
Well, she, I mean, she hasn't, At least DeSantis had his day, in the sense that he looked, he never was the frontrunner.
Because they wanted him over Trump, and Fox still does, they're still plugging away.
He looked like a frontrunner for a while, but she never got above 5%.
She never moved.
And she had an active campaign.
She's been in the race for five months now.
I don't even know how long.
I think she was the first one in, wasn't she?
She's campaigned.
A lot of people here know her.
Seems to like her, but then I vote for her.
Which is a tough place to be, right?
Imagine running for office and everyone likes you, but they're not going to vote for you.
DeSantis does have, and I don't want to add to his problems.
I don't, although, you know, I am for Trump, but I still, I'm trying not to be difficult on any of the Republicans, but DeSantis has people for him.
I don't think, I think if you asked how many people, I think if you did a poll like this between Haley and Ron, right?
Right.
I think more people would like Haley, but more people are voting for Ron.
Does that make sense?
That does make sense.
I don't think the people voting for him like him.
They see him at least for a while.
He was seen as a someone that could win, whatever, however that narrative started.
I think that thing that I showed you and I showed you that really more as a political education thing.
I think that was a pretty good piece.
That's the kind of piece that he needs.
But as I told, as I told Ted, when we saw it earlier, you know, when we scooped it up, it should have been out like four or five months ago.
That's a, that's a lead off.
That's what you call introducing the candidate ad.
Yep.
One of my great, one of my great political advisors, I had two great ones that you would know.
I had several that you wouldn't know, but, and that was Roger Ailes and David Garth.
I cannot for the life of me figure out which one had this idea, but it was for a new candidate.
Very, very great care has to be given to their announcement, much more than, let's say, Trump announcing a second time, or if I ran, or who's run before, or pick out anybody that already has a public history, all right?
But if you don't have a real public history, and DeSantis might think he has, but he doesn't.
He doesn't have a national, he might now, but he didn't when he started, have a national major name recognition and things associated with it.
It is enormously important that you control and define the first thing people think about you.
Because the first thing they think about you is the thing that's going to remain with them longest.
Because they may not think about you again for a long time.
After all, politics isn't on their mind 24 hours a day.
And two years or a year and a half before an election, it's not in their mind.
So when you make that initial entry as a candidate for president, and you're more than just a marginal candidate, which a governor of New York or California or Florida or any of the major states would be, Texas, what do you want them to know about you?
Do you want them to know that You're a very, very good family man.
Maybe that's it.
Do you want them to know that you were a great reforming governor?
Do you want them to know that, um, you have a great, you had a great military record?
Do you want them, they will not know all of those things.
If you say all those things to them, each one of them gets, uh, divide into all the things you said to them, the number of things you said.
So you say four things, you're going to, each one is going to be one fourth.
Um, In his case, I think I would have started with he's a nice guy because they're going to get the rest.
He has universally, whether people agree with that, the reputation of being a good governor.
I don't think he had a work at establishing that.
I think that he could assume, with a little prodding, the press was going to do for him, particularly since he was running against Trump and they wanted to beat Trump.
And he had to know that Fox was going to be a major, almost like a public relations channel for him.
Given his liability as a bad campaigner, which is what he's known as, he should have gotten the nice guy thing across.
You know there are all kinds of theories about running for president, right?
And one of them is we vote for the guy we'd have a beer with.
That has validity.
None of these things are 100% true, by the way.
We voted for guys that we wouldn't like to have a beer with.
And at times, uh, we voted for, for, for people, you know, that were really very regular guys.
But, um, I would say you gotta look at your pluses and minuses, figure out what the biggest minus is and go with that.
Go, go after that right at the beginning.
So that it's there and it's constantly wearing down.
And Ida put that Don thing up.
Looks like a military guy.
Comes from a, not a poor, but not a rich family.
Had to work his way through school.
He's an athlete and apparently a good one.
He played on the college baseball team.
Doesn't even mention much about his record as governor, which I think is smart.
You'd say, why not?
Because it's accepted that he was a good governor by Republicans.
Um, and that's going to come out.
You don't have to work at that.
You got to work at this.
So that's my wisdom on account campaigning today.
Uh, and, and the fact is, although Ted will disagree with this, he's the only Republican who has a chance to beat Trump.
He isn't.
It's, um, Almost, almost at the point where it'd be impossible.
But if, if, if Trump were to drop out of the race, let's say he'd be the favorite, correct?
Yes.
And he'd probably win because he probably has for all the minuses of everything, the best organization nationwide.
At least he has a nationwide structure.
The others really, I don't see a nationwide structure for the rest.
It may be that somebody else will come in number two, but that doesn't mean they could sustain a nationwide campaign.
When John McCain beat me and he beat Huckabee and he beat Romney, Because he had run out of money, gotten rid of his entire staff, and won on his own in New Hampshire.
When he got the nomination, I certainly had a much bigger and stronger staff than he did, and so did Romney.
And I became his supporter the day I dropped out.
I flew to California, endorsed him, and I gave him my staff.
The person with the biggest staff doesn't necessarily win.
He has the biggest staff, right, by a lot, aside from Trump.
And he is still the one person that could overtake him.
And it has the Murdoch people in a bind because they're trying to figure out, I think they
have given up on them, but they still now are going back to doing good stuff about them.
Cause I think they realized there's nobody else.
I mean, they're trying to push Christie and Christie's trying to get above 5% and then stepping on his foot constantly by being nasty, which does not work in New Hampshire.
The Christie nastiness does not work in New Hampshire.
Um, we said, well, why does Trump, Because Trump does it with a sense of humor, which Rush Limbaugh used to do.
Chris has no sense of humor.
There is nothing funny about Chris Christie.
He has no ability to deliver a line that will make you laugh except at him.
And if you're gonna deliver negatives, you have to have a sense of humor.
It's the only way you can soften them.
And Trump maybe does it too often and maybe does it to his disadvantage sometimes, but he gets away with a lot of it because he's very funny.
You look at his, you look at Trump's rallies and they're extremely entertaining.
Maybe if you don't like him, you can't take him.
But for the people who like him, it's like people would wonder how, how does Rush Limbaugh have the biggest audience on radio?
Between 12 and three.
And only does his talk for three hours.
Because he was funny as hell.
Imitations.
Stories.
You know, I'm Henry Kissinger.
I'm Henry Kissinger.
And I'm going to China.
I'm going to China all the time.
That kind of stuff.
You know, he'd make fun of Clinton.
He'd use his accent and stuff like that.
I feel your pain and other things I can't.
Then he'd stop.
I feel your pain and as many other things as I can't.
What do you think of Ron DeSantis debating California Governor Gavin Newsom, and could that backfire?
Anything can backfire.
Anything could backfire.
Ted, tell me why, but tell me why you think it would backfire.
I mean, I don't know.
Here's what I would say.
I would put it this way.
Tell me about Newsom and DeSantis.
Will it do any good?
I don't see how it would hurt them, unless they say something stupid.
The exposure is not going to hurt them.
How would it hurt them, Ted?
You say, how would it backfire?
It could mean nothing, or it could mean something.
Well, you mean if it means nothing and it's a letdown, it would backfire?
Well, I think Governor DeSantis and his... That's possible.
Yeah, well, Governor DeSantis and his team are going into it with this idea that, oh, look, we're gonna contrast Florida's perceived success against California's perceived failures as a state government, which, by the way, I agree.
We probably agree with most of our audience that that is, in fact, the case.
I don't know that that translates to the general public.
I think the general public sees California still as this cool place, you know, Hollywood, L.A., but Florida, too.
The point being, Gavin Newsom on the policies, sure, to a conservative, right-leaning audience, DeSantis in Florida is a much better situation and he's a much better leader than Newsom, but on style and charisma and debate skills.
In television appearances, I think Newsom has the ability to make DeSantis kind of look like a chump in some, right?
Just from a stylistic, when they're up there, you know, you got this.
And Gavin Newsom, I hate to say, he comes off as a little cool.
I've never seen Newsom debate.
I've seen Newsom on, you know, interviews and speeches and stuff like that.
He is very good looking.
I don't know that he's a great speaker.
I've never heard him give a speech, nor do I attach him to any great speech.
You know, Obama, you could attach him to the speech at the convention about we're not black, we're not white, we're all Americans, which really, boy, that was kind of a phony speech, but it was good.
Bill Clinton was a great speaker.
Trump is a great speaker in his way.
Nobody excites crowds like Trump.
What you're saying is... I'm saying Newsom could come off as like the cool, collected California guy, and DeSantis could come off as he kind of does.
People say, this isn't just me, right?
People that meet him say the guy's a little awkward at times, or a lot of the time.
Yeah, that could be his liability.
I doubt... I think he's as smart or smarter than Newsom.
I mean, I don't think he's going to come across as adult at all.
I think he will come across as the smarter of the two guys.
He definitely has a quicker mind than Newsom.
Newsom can get caught in some pretty stupid things.
I mean, I think his intellect is vastly overrated.
So if you're talking about style, yeah, he could get beaten on style.
He might win on substance, though.
They're both going to win their base.
There's no amount of charm.
that's going to win over a MAGA Republican to Newsom.
He could be the most charming guy in the world.
They're going to hate him for his position.
Exactly.
Yes.
And there's no amount of charm or skill or intellect that's going to win over a left-wing communist type Democrat like they have in California for Ron.
Question is what happens in the middle?
Yeah.
One or the other could get hurt, but I'm not sure it has to be DeSantis.
A lot of this debate is a sort of, it's a, it's a, it's a, what would you call it?
It's a charity event.
This isn't like a real heavyweight championship fight.
It's a charity event.
It might get viewed differently.
It'll get viewed differently than a real debate.
Where they both can kind of come away as the winners.
I think it's a good thing for both of them because it sort of puts them both as the heir apparent, whether you like it or not.
I mean, Trump certainly doesn't like it.
He doesn't want him as the heir apparent.
I don't think DeSantis is.
And I don't know that Biden wants Newsom.
Or whoever.
I don't know if Biden even knows who Newsom is anymore.
If you ask them, who does Obama want?
Bingo.
There you go, Mayor.
That's the question.
I don't think it's Newsom.
No.
Newsom's too cool.
Yeah, Newsom would put him in the background.
Yeah, exactly.
Newsom would be like a cooler Obama.
A much cooler Obama.
He loves it with Dodo.
He's perfect.
He wants somebody like that, again.
He would want Kamala, right?
He would want somebody like that.
He could control.
Biden, Bergman, and somebody Bergman and Charlie McCarthy.
Charlie, he's a ventriloquist.
Obama's a ventriloquist.
Oh, yeah.
Okay, Joe.
So he needs somebody like that.
No, Joe, you didn't talk to your father last night.
He's dead.
Well, you know, a lot of these current, the current flock, a lot of them would be Obama.
They would all listen to him.
I mean, Pete Buttigieg, he'd take all of his marching orders from Obama.
Kamala Harris, I don't even know who's on the bench for the Democrat Party.
Well, they engineered it last time, Soros and him, and they engineered it for Biden.
They cleared the field for Biden.
They cleared the field for Hillary.
They wiped out, they cheated Bernie.
They'd have to be willing to do it for Newsom, which I would, I'm guessing they would.
I mean, the RFP is not an option.
Well, what did they do it for the best candidate?
And Newsom's the best, who would be better than Newsom for them?
Obviously, I think we're now talking 28.
Whitmer.
No, but we're talking 28 for Republicans.
Oh, for Republicans.
But we could, without realizing it, be talking 24 for Democrats.
And increasingly, people are joining Rudolph W. Julian.
You have been early on this.
I told you a year ago he wasn't going to make it.
Actually, when you came to Michigan over a year ago.
I didn't think the day he got elected, I didn't think he'd make it.
He gave that inauguration speech.
I wasn't sure he'd make it through the last election.
Remember the last election, he did one like, and I remember Franklin Roosevelt reading the comic books on television.
And then you realize Franklin Roosevelt was dead before there was television.
And by the way, maybe because he was my predecessor, but the person who read the comic books on the radio was Fiorello LaGuardia, not Franklin Roosevelt.
Idiot.
Moron.
Nine wonders of the world.
Idiot.
No wonder you were left back in the third grade.
Wow.
Wow.
So, so it's interesting, Mayor, with this, with the debate coming up, obviously, President Trump, we've talked about this a lot and everyone's talking about it.
We don't need to talk too much about it.
Could he end it?
Could he end the primary by going?
No matter what, it can't be ended.
No, nobody's going to make a decision right now that they're not going to change their mind about.
Why would they?
Even if they said they made a decision now, something could change their mind.
It's a year, or not a year, half a year.
I mean, no, he could not end it now, even if he won the debate 98 to 2, and he went ahead by 60 points.
The reality is that there's too much time for people to change their mind.
Too much time for things to happen.
And with the Democrats throwing things at him, we think we have it under control now.
We think it's another indictment and it's going to redound to his benefit and it's going to get put off until after the election because it can't possibly be tried next year.
I mean, he has to be able to go to some court to get relief if they have him on trial every day of next year.
That is so transparent.
I mean, it's so transparent.
Anyway, a court should not allow this.
The man should be allowed to run for president.
And it should be recognized that these cases were brought for that purpose.
I mean, come on, you have to recognize.
If the law can't recognize reality, it's not the law anymore.
This is a tragedy what's being done.
But right now, it sounds to me like unless he can get a change legally, and I have a theory as to how he can do that, he'll be tried twice next year.
And they'll save two of them for afterwards.
And I guess the two of them will depend on what happens with the first two and the election, right?
Should he get acquitted on the first two and get elected, I think they'll drop the cases.
Should he get convicted on one of the two and get elected?
Well, he could pardon himself on the federal case remaining, but he couldn't pardon himself on the case in Georgia or New York.
So here's an interesting one.
Suppose he was convicted on one, acquitted on the other, gets elected, and there's the one federal case out there, the most recent one, I guess, and the Georgia case, which since it came last, will probably come last, Would they go ahead with the case if he were the president?
Well, he could pardon himself on the federal case, so then there would be just one case left.
And would Georgia try him?
The president of the United States on that case.
Here's the interesting thing.
I don't think they can.
I think they're gonna have to wait four years to try him.
Because you can't try a sitting president.
You have to impeach him.
So it really becomes enormously complicated, and the whole thing is just a reflection of the fact that, difficult though it is for us to accept, we've become a fascist country.
Particularly our court system.
Our judicial system is a two-tiered system and there's no such thing as two systems of justice.
That's a contradiction.
That means no justice for the people in the second system.
The one that you get prosecuted for things you didn't do with no rules.
How can you say he has a Sixth Amendment right to counsel when even in that indictment it's all his lawyers that are indicted?
That's not a giveaway?
It's not a giveaway that they went and took my ICOD account from the day that I began representing them, so they could spy on them?
What decent country does that?
Isn't that an act of Stalin or Hitler?
Oh well.
So, let's see.
Do I have everybody up on everything?
I really have to make a point of, because in my city this gets confused sometimes, okay?
There's a feeling of great sympathy for the migrants.
And I understand it, and you have to say it, right?
Oh, poor people, they're just coming here for this, that, or the other thing.
Now, that is a generalized statement that applies to some of the people.
But it is absolutely inapplicable to others of that group of people.
And to use it as a generalized statement can become very dangerous.
For example, a Venezuelan man seeking asylum in the U.S.
has been accused of raping a woman in front of a three-year-old child in a New York City-funded hotel.
Last week, prosecutors say Jesus Guzman Bermudez, 26, and the victim was staying at a hotel in Chictawaga, which is up near Buffalo, by the way.
And the victim was staying at a hotel that was paid for by the Adams administration, along with 500 other immigrants who were recently buzzed there.
He was arrested, charged with rape, unlawful imprisonment, Endangering the welfare of a child.
and the rape took place in front of the child.
Took place on August 2nd.
That's one of the people that came in.
Then an MS-13 gang leader was found guilty Wednesday of ordering the murder of a 16-year-old boy found nearly decapitated in a Queens park, Melvi Amador Rios. And MS-13 snitches
took this man and testified about the leader's ruthlessness.
the defendant was the one signing the death warrants. So this is another.
other.
Illegal immigrant, not immigrant, illegal immigrant.
Neither one of these people came here for asylum.
The rapists didn't come here for asylum.
The guy from Venezuela who ran a gang can run a gang in Venezuela just as much as he can run a gang here.
And the mayor of our city says we're at the breaking point with a $12 billion tab now and going up, we get about $10,000 a week.
Remember, he asked for it.
The mayor of New York asked for it.
So he blames it on Biden.
100% right.
It's solely Biden's fault that they come into the United States.
But it is solely Eric Adams' fault that they disproportionately come to New York because he advertised for them.
Big time.
He promised them benefits they didn't get in other cities.
So when he cries and complains that the city is being destroyed, He should offer himself as a sacrifice to that, because he did it.
Namely, resign.
Because you do not know what the hell you are doing.
Now he's taking baseball fields, recreational places, away from children.
And they are complaining like hell.
They can't play softball this summer.
They can't play soccer anymore.
An entire soccer facility has been taken away so that the immigrants can be treated really well.
There was an immigrant interview the other day who was in a place in Brooklyn, but he found a better place, but only he could get in.
There was only room for one.
So he left his family in the other place, and he went to the McCarran Park Center, and he liked it because they have Venezuelan food there, three square meals a day, and they have a pool.
And then eventually he was kind enough to go get his children and bring them to the pool.
So now they have a pool for the summer.
I mean, I don't want to see them tortured or treated poorly, but I don't want them treated in a way in which large numbers of other illegals are going to come here because it's so nice to be here.
And remember, and please remember, this is a This is playing Russian roulette.
You don't know who they are.
And some of them are very, very bad.
And the proportion of very, very bad ones is bigger than it used to be than in the old days when they came in across the border with some degree of vetting by us.
These people aren't vetted at all by us.
We don't stop anybody at the border.
We actually are objecting to obstructions being put in the water by the Texas government.
Come on in!
Come on in!
Now, on the other side of the river, on the other side of the border, there are thousands of people vetting them.
They're called the Sinaloa cartel, the El Golfo cartel.
They are very shrewd businessmen, but their business is child trafficking, human trafficking, selling fentanyl, bringing in arms, escorting in terrorists, And they have organized now in the United States and almost every city, uh, groups of their people to run these illegal enterprises, as well as work with others like MS-13 and running their enterprises.
So a disproportionate number of people that are let in are criminals.
And some are like the MS-13 people correctly named by Donald Trump years ago as animals.
The guy who chopped the head off of somebody is an animal.
MS-13 chops your head off, they chop your arms off.
And they rape you to make a point.
Larger numbers of them are coming in now because the cartels can make money with them.
Remember, the toll booth to come into the United States It's not run by the border patrol.
It's run by the Mexican organized crime groups called the cartels.
There are four major ones and then small ones.
We'll put out a map soon.
I have one.
I'll update it and show you the map.
This is what we got because the last campaign and the last election was a fraud.
You put a lifetime criminal in the White House, very bad things that can happen, worse than have ever happened before in American history.
Just pray to God that he's out soon, that he resigns, that they use the 25th Amendment or they impeach him.
Even sooner than the election, because who knows what irreparable damage this guy can do.
He's completely amoral.
He's evil.
He doesn't have a brain left.
Well, on that thought, come back tomorrow on WABC Radio at three o'clock, wabcradio.com, or right here tomorrow night, where we'll do a little wrap up on New Hampshire and keep you up on who knows what terrible thing will happen, or maybe something wonderful will happen.
God bless you and God bless America.
God bless you.
America was created at a time of great turmoil, tremendous disagreements, anger, hatred.
There was a book written in 1776 that guided much of the discipline of thinking that brought to us the discovery of our freedoms, of our God-given freedoms.
It was Thomas Paine's Common Sense, written in 1776, one of the first American bestsellers, in which Thomas Paine explained, by rational principles, the reason why these small colonies felt the necessity to separate from the Kingdom of Great Britain and the King of England.
He explained their inherent desire for liberty, for freedom, freedom of religion, freedom
of speech, the ability to select the people who govern them.
And he explained it in ways that were understandable to all the people, not just the elite.
Because the desire for freedom is universal.
The desire for freedom adheres in the human mind and it is part of the human soul.
This is exactly the time we should consult our history.
Look at what we've done in the past and see if we can't use it to help us now.
We understand that our founders created the greatest country in the history of the world.
The greatest democracy, the freest country.
A country that has taken more people out of poverty than any country ever.
All of us are so fortunate to be Americans.
But a great deal of the reason for America's constant ability to self-improve is because we're able to reason.
We're able to talk.
We're able to analyze.
We are able to apply our God-given common sense.
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