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July 14, 2023 - Rudy Giuliani
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America's Mayor Live (E190): Election 2024 Update
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Good evening, this is Rudy Giuliani and this is America's Mayor Live.
That's right, live from the country that can't find cocaine in the White House.
For those of you overseas, I'm embarrassed to tell you that.
For those of you in America, well you know we We turned into a different kind of law enforcement system when Biden became president, instead of being like the FBI and the Secret Service, they're now the state police, the Biden state police.
Now, let's kind of get to the conclusion at the very beginning.
The reason they can't solve the crime is because they don't want to.
Not that they can't.
Plus, they haven't even tried.
11 days?
I mean, you decide after 11 days you can't solve it, which is an announcement to the whole world.
We cannot solve it.
And now you want proof of that?
Here's the proof.
And let's see how long it takes to get this information out of these traitors.
You know what?
In order to do this investigation for any detective anywhere in the world, you've got to, um, You've got to say, like you do in any investigation, logically, who's the chief suspect?
So you find cocaine in the White House.
The White House, even though it may be a couple hundred people, still is a restricted area.
Only a certain number of people can come in to that area.
Oh, by the way, the area changed four times.
That's another problem which we'll get into in a second, which is a sure sign that it's a corrupted investigation.
So let's play.
I used to play a game when I was a child called Clue.
I always thought it helped make me a good investigator.
Later on, when I went after Milken, Boesky, the Mafia, things are a little harder to catch than the cocaine in the White House.
So who's your number one suspect?
I'll give you two seconds to think about it.
Well, you know who it is.
I mean, there's only one person that we know for sure is a major cocaine user that lives in the White House.
There could be others.
There were all kinds of allegations about the rest of his family, arrests, all kinds of things, but we'll leave that alone.
Hunter Biden.
Hunter Biden may well, and I will tell you this as an expert on the hard drive, I've got all the, I've got all the 300 pictures of him smoking crack on the hard drive of maybe 50 yards from here.
I mean, from the hard drive, it looks like he didn't go a day for about eight years and wasn't completely gone on crack.
There are pictures of him smoking while driving.
Pictures of him smoking a pipe while driving.
Pictures of him going over 100 miles an hour while driving.
Pictures of him sitting in a closet with no clothes on and you have to look through the smoke to make sure it's him.
Pictures of him walking around a home with minor children in it.
Smoking crack, calling prostitutes, talking to them very loud.
You remember there's a text they keep covering up in which he announces to his father that one of his father's grandchildren, a psychiatrist, said that he, Hunter, should be thrown out of the house because he's a danger to the children.
And he says that The young lady, the young lady who was 14, said the psychiatrist was wrong.
He tells his father that.
But then, in a burst of conscience, he admits to his father, I am a danger to the children.
What did Grandpa Joe do to help his grandchild?
Zero, nothing.
What did the Delaware police do when I brought them the child pornography?
Nothing.
So nobody cared about those grandchildren.
But all of that is proof that you got one major, big, big cocaine addict in the very building in which you found the cocaine.
Now, the chances that he has rehabbed and is not using cocaine are about one in a thousand.
He's gone back to cocaine after rehab at least 10 times.
What do you think the chances are that he's not using it now?
Well, I say none, but there's a way to find out.
And if you're the Secret Service and you haven't done this, you've announced you're corrupt.
He should have been given a drug test on day one.
Cocaine in the White House.
Major cocaine addict in the White House.
I mean, just to even start the investigation, you have to eliminate him.
Right?
It's like, um...
A woman gets killed and the husband just went and got a million dollar insurance policy on her life, but you don't bother to investigate him.
You say, well, we'll keep him out of the investigation.
Don't you have to find out a little about him?
So I'm going to guarantee you they didn't do that.
And therefore it proved, I don't have to do anything else to prove my point that they're corrupt.
Well, let's try one more that's right on the surface.
When this was originally announced, they said the cocaine was in the library on the first floor of the White House.
They called it a personal library.
I actually would dispute that it's a personal library in the sense that nobody else gets to go in there, but that's sort of a minor point.
That's where it was announced that the cocaine was found.
Next day, the cocaine somehow moved.
And it moved to the waiting room of the West Wing.
What I would call the principal waiting room.
And that allowed the number two liar in America, Karine Jean-Paul, Pierre, Paul, whatever her name is, right?
I can't remember because she lies so much I get her name screwed up.
So, she announces, oh, that's a very heavily trafficked area, as if it's Grand Central Station.
Yeah, it's heavily trafficked and everybody that walks through has to give up their social security number.
Every single person.
Like, heavily trafficked?
Come on, liar, give me a break.
Well, that got, like, ripped apart for a day.
Another instance of her either idiocy or mendacity or whatever.
Then they moved it again.
I mean, this cocaine keeps moving around.
It's a very strange kind of cocaine.
It keeps getting discovered.
It only got discovered once.
But as you will see, it got discovered in four different places once.
Then it moves downstairs, right outside the Situation Room.
Now, this one really kind of hurt because it allowed wise guys like me to say, oh, that's a convenient place to have it.
In the room in which the president may have to go someday and decide whether we should use atomic weapons, we have cocaine outside.
I mean, and we can't figure out who put it there.
It moved again.
This time it moved to the waiting room of the West Wing, but they call it a cubby.
In a cubby.
It's actually in a locker.
And there are at least two different sized lockers, and the one that I'm thinking about.
But the one that I'm thinking about is a different waiting room than the waiting room they first announced.
So it's like...
It sounds like there are three different places because it's waiting room, library, waiting room, situation room, waiting room, but it's a different waiting room.
It's the one on the side entrance to the West Wing because that's where the cubbies or the lockers are.
And the lockers are of two different sizes.
I don't know which size this one was.
I assume it was the normal size one.
You put your items in there and you take a key.
Usually that's reserved really for cell phones because any dangerous items are already taken from you because you go through a mag outside before you come in there.
So for example, if you had a steel object, if you had a knife, if you had even something that could be used as a knife, it would be taken from you.
A letter opener, it would be taken from you outside and left out there.
So this is really for pretty benign things like cell phones, because most people can't take cell phones into the White House.
You have to have a special reason for it.
All right.
How could it be that they come up with four different places that it was originally found, if somebody's not lying?
It's ridiculous.
I mean, this really is not a hard thing to get right.
You don't find cocaine in the White House every day, I hope.
We now find out that a year ago, they had marijuana in the White House.
But who knows what else we're going to find out.
But even with that, I'm pretty sure it's a rather rare occasion to find cocaine in the White House.
And they can't figure out where they first found it.
It keeps moving.
An entire floor?
And they're not lying?
Come on.
They must really think we're stupid.
Well, they do think we're stupid.
They think we're deplorables.
And they think they're smarter than we are.
Pathetically, they're not.
And they're also, it turns out, very poorly educated because they went to all these schools that teach You know, things like questioning your gender as opposed to history or philosophy, right?
Or they teach made-up history, like the 1619 Project, with massive falsities.
and defamations of the United States.
So I don't know.
These people are not really very smart, but it really isn't too smart to give four different locations and expect us to look upon this as a legit investigation.
So why would they not investigate this?
Which is what they did.
They didn't investigate it.
Ted, you tell us why Why didn't they at least go through the motions of pretending they investigated it?
You can't say you investigated this and close it in 11 days.
I think it's twofold, right?
They don't feel the need to anymore.
They have so much cover in the mainstream media and in Washington.
And two, they wanted to quickly come out and basically let us know that you're not going to get an answer on this.
And I think the strategy is let's just Make it clear early on that this isn't going to get solved.
Show them the headline of the New York Post that I have over there.
This is the only place you're going to see that, though.
So you're telling me this is the reason they do it, right?
Yep.
So they know they're not going to see White House cover up in the New York Times or Washington Post, the St.
Louis Post-Dispatch, the San Francisco Rag, whatever they have in San Francisco.
uh... that's right the los angeles bullshit machine whatever you know
whatever well if you use our literature at the a p associated press
reuters uh... bloomberg a few of these outlets of put
the quick story out there on the wire and it's not a physical wire anymore
no of course not even though
you have to be a blithering idiot not to figure out it's a cover-up
Absolutely.
But those outlets put this out there and then it's picked up by all those outlets you mentioned across the country.
So it can immediately... Today, or was it yesterday in New York, a 13-year-old serial murder was partially solved.
But yeah, well, we'll talk about that more in depth, right?
That's fascinating, by the way.
I know they don't rise to the same level of importance.
Although in many ways, this is very important because it's not so much the cocaine, it's the integrity of the White House.
And the Secret Service, Mayor.
If you can penetrate the White House with cocaine and the Secret Service can't figure out how it was done or who did it, where's the deterrent to trying to take anthrax?
I just think of anthrax.
Or a bomb.
This is supposed to be the most secure or one of the most secure locations in the United States, guarded by a superior investigatory force.
I am willing to tell you that I would make a fairly large bet.
I would take the case on a contingency.
Let me investigate it.
Let me pick the Secret Service agents and pay me a million dollars if I solve it and nothing if I don't.
How about that, Joe?
How about we make that deal?
I think there's a really good chance.
I bet Las Vegas would bet on me.
Yep, I bet Las Vegas would bet that I'd solve it.
I agree with that.
The over-under would be one day.
24 hours.
I would not put a time limit on it.
You can't do that.
You can't do that.
First of all, this should be a long investigation.
First of all, you have to eliminate Hunter Biden.
You have to either catch him or eliminate him because he's the prime suspect.
If you want to talk about Las Vegas, they did put odds on this, and he's the two-to-one favorite as the guy who brought in the cocaine.
So the Las Vegas bettors are betting on Hunter.
Is that right now what they're betting on?
I don't know.
That was about three days ago.
I think you're right.
I mean, that would make sense.
I mean, I mean, he's the public.
He's the one that we would think.
I don't think they really investigate.
I'm not sure Hunter is the guy.
It would be kind of strange if it was.
I bet there are a lot of drug users in the White House.
Oh, you bet.
Yeah.
It makes sense to me that people who follow Joe Biden into the White House have histories of drug use.
I mean, after all, they're in favor of recreational use of marijuana.
They're in favor of no penalties for cocaine.
I don't think people that don't use that stuff feel that way, or at least not in large numbers.
So I would guess if you started doing drug testing of the White House staff, you'd come out with a hell of a percentage.
A hundred percent.
Look, the White House says, well, you can't do that because of their civil liberties.
Now that's complete garbage because every one of them is drug tested when they come into the White House.
But they can get a couple of weeks to prepare for that.
And unless you're Hunter Biden, you probably can beat it.
Now, remember how bad it was for Hunter.
His father went through unbelievable machinations to get him into the military at 40 years old.
That made completely corrupt to get him in.
For one month, he couldn't say clean.
Because within one month, he blew a cocaine test.
And by the way, he had a very, very stressful job.
They put him in public relations.
He was clipping news items.
It got him nervous, so he had to return to the cocaine.
I mean, imagine not having the discipline to avoid cocaine for a month so you don't embarrass your vice president father.
And you're telling me he's not using cocaine now?
I don't know.
You tell that to somebody that doesn't come from New York.
Wow, that is it's quite something.
This is the worst whodunit mystery I've ever seen.
Well, it's just one more indication that we have.
We have got to make the transition now.
We have a corrupt Biden administration.
We have a corrupt FBI.
And at the very top, it seems like we have a corrupt Secret Service.
This is the second time they got caught up in this.
Remember, it was Secret Service agents that went to the gun dealer and tried to get the records from him of Hunter's felony.
Which he's getting away with.
He's getting away with it, but they were going to try to destroy the records.
Secret Service had no right to those records.
And by the way, Hunter didn't have Secret Service protection at the time.
They had no reason to be going there.
And the gun dealer, who's quite a hero, told him to go to hell.
Because I'll give this to ATF, not to you.
The gun dealer was smart enough to know what the press denies.
That the Secret Service was there to cover up for the Bidens.
Okay.
Very unfortunate.
And Mayor, it's just, as you said, another example of how it's different for the Biden administration.
You know what it's an example of?
If you step out of it and you looked at it from Europe or Asia or Africa, we have a corrupt government.
100%.
I mean, we like to say it's a corrupt Biden administration.
No, no, no.
It's not partisan.
There's a little denial there because that's our government.
We don't have two secret services.
We don't have two FBIs.
We got one.
And if you trust him, you're crazy.
And that's why that's why they're after the mayor.
That's why they're after President Trump.
2024 is not a part for quite some time.
This is not Democrat versus Republican.
They investigated me for three years to no conclusion, except a letter saying I didn't do anything.
They investigated this for 11 days.
And you want me to accept this as an investigation?
They closed the investigation.
I've never heard.
I haven't heard of something like that.
They come out and publicly close the investigation.
It never opened.
They don't want to find out.
They actually don't want to find out how many drug users there are in the White House.
Send in Mayor Giuliani.
The mayor will bring in Bernie Kerik.
How many other members of his family are drug users?
Just go ask the Delaware police.
They'll tell you.
Off the record.
What was Howard Safer?
What did he do for you, Mayor?
He was the police commissioner.
He was the deputy head of the marshal service.
What if they sent you, Bernie Kerik, Mr. Safer and Crazy Louie.
I think if they sent Deputy Dog to do it, he'd get it done.
Deputy Dog and a couple of his agents would get the damn thing done.
So, I mean, you don't need a genius for this.
However, we got more problems than that.
Our president, well, first of all, I should announce that today is a very, very significant day.
I know you're gonna tell me it's Bastille Day, but that's not it.
Today is... Shall we?
Happy birthday to you.
Happy birthday to you.
Happy birthday, dear Ted.
Happy birthday to you.
Happy birthday, everyone, and we have a great audience.
We're not going to put them on tonight, but thank you for the birthday wishes.
Another year.
I'm still here.
Yeah, here we are.
Another year.
Wow.
I want you to know you share this day, a special day.
This is the 10th anniversary of Black Lives Matter.
Hopefully the last one.
The police killing organization.
Yeah, they go crazy when I say that.
Except every time they have a demonstration, they say, pigs in a blanket, fry them like bacon.
And since they started doing that- Don't tell me I share a birthday- No, it's not a birthday.
With Black Lives Matter?
Black Lives Matter- Wait, no, this is the 10 year anniversary- Black Lives Matter wasn't born, it's not human.
Okay, okay.
But the founding day, Mayor, I don't want to share a day with.
What can we do?
Can we find a new day for them?
At some point, they're going to be declared a terrorist organization and they'll be gone.
And everybody who donated to them at this point should ask for their money back.
They're a fraudulent organization.
They're fraudulent.
They're Marxist, avowed Marxist.
They don't even deny it.
They're promoters of violence against police officers.
They do it at every rally.
They're an arm, they're an active arm of the Communist Party.
And that's a good word for it.
It's no longer the Democrat Party, the Communist Party.
If you read about the Russian Revolution, for example, I'd encourage people to really dig into that.
In Russia, the liberals sold out the working people.
They sold out the working people, and we've seen a similar thing here, Mayor, right?
With President Trump and appealing to the working man, the working woman.
And you have these liberals today, these NIMBYs, right?
Anyway, we could go on and on about it, but it's just so obvious, and it's all around us.
So is Biden on the way out?
That's the next question.
Comment below.
Well, let's take another look.
Let's open up our comment section.
Let us know.
Join the conversation.
Joe Biden, will he be on the ballot?
It was very unusual when he fell going down, going up the stairs the first time.
I don't think it's too often that people fall going upstairs.
They usually fall going downstairs.
Well, he did it again, but of course it was covered up.
He did it again on this trip.
But of course, it's covered up.
Now, don't you have a right to know that?
There are now three, four indications a day that he's in a fairly advanced stage of dementia.
We took out the DSM-5 yesterday and went through the symptoms, and we've got about two or three that fall in advanced stage.
I don't know.
I knows that he's being watched all the time and he still stumbles going up the stairs.
I'm not going to show again, because I think we've done it four nights in a row, the short little piece of him in King Charles, where he looks like a Mr. Magoo.
It looks like he doesn't know where the hell he is.
But do we have any video of him stumbling going up the stairs?
We should have that in about 20 seconds.
It's still uploading.
But of course, can you just set the scene for us, Mayor?
And we'll play that in about 20 seconds.
He was walking, on Thursday, he was walking up the stairs of a, I don't know how they did this, but they shortened the number of stairs on Air Force One.
I think they cut them in half.
And it looks to me like they made them bigger, so you'd be less likely to... In fact, they made it a 14-step staircase.
My recollection is it's like 30 or 35.
It is a heck of a hike up there.
But they cut it down to 14.
I don't know how they did that, but they did.
Maybe they can lower... We'll have to find out how they did that.
And... We're ready to play it when you...
Okay, go ahead, play it.
The sound of the water.
The sound of the water.
Well, I mean, I don't know.
He also confused Ireland and Iceland, which again, I don't know anybody could confuse Iceland and Ireland.
This is the same guy that when he arrived in Cambodia thought he was in Colombia.
I mean, that's a... Or who keeps referring to giving a medal to his uncle after he was vice president in the White House and his uncle was dead for seven years.
Before he gave him the Purple Heart.
And by the way, he never gave him the Purple Heart because there's no record of his uncle being awarded the Purple Heart.
Now, you could attribute that to Biden, the lifetime liar.
It's almost as if there wasn't a day in his life that he hasn't lied.
But this is a little different because he keeps getting told That both his father and his uncle were dead for seven or eight years at the time of the ceremony that he attributes to their putting it together and being there, and he keeps repeating it.
Just like he keeps repeating that his son died in Iraq.
Tragically, his son died, but his son died in a hospital bed in Maryland, of causes having nothing to do with the war.
Died of cancer.
But he keeps saying that his son died in Iraq.
And he keeps referring to Russia fighting in Iraq right now.
He did that twice, even though it should be pretty easy to remember it's Ukraine.
I mean, I could go on and on and make the case that he's seriously demented.
And I don't know what good it would do because there aren't enough patriots in this country to do anything about it.
I mean, they just don't give a damn that we have a president who's mentally incompetent.
And I know that Harris is frightening as hell, but that's no excuse.
Constitution doesn't say, you know, the president should be removed if he's mentally incompetent, unless he has a jerky vice president.
Then we'll have to deal with her and find out why the hell she doesn't know how to talk.
She talks and we're not going to play any excerpts of her tonight.
We've had enough craziness.
And by the time you listen to her, who knows if you'll be able to sleep.
And Biden also declared that Russia can't win in Ukraine.
Good.
Now we feel really confident that Russia can't win in Ukraine.
I mean, is there any, is there any idea of when the hell we're going to end that?
Yeah.
When you sit mayor.
That we're going to go on like endlessly.
Are we going to send millions and millions there endlessly without any accounting of what, of whether it's actually being used for a war?
I mean, we are sending it to one of the most corrupt countries in the world.
That didn't change.
What Russia did to them is deplorable.
What's happening to those poor people is indefensible.
I'll also tell you, it wouldn't have happened if Trump had been reelected.
Everyone knows that.
I think Putin would even be willing to tell you that.
There's no way they would have invaded.
I mean, they could have invaded for four years, and they didn't when there was a real president sitting there.
When Dodo got there, they watched him in Afghanistan.
Putin tested him for two months by taunting him.
He took the bait constantly saying, no troops, no troops on the ground, no boots on the ground.
By the time they were finished, Putin realized it was a no risk proposition and he went in.
And then we sent whatever we sent to them So late, it didn't do any good in Russia taking what they wanted.
Now they've been able to fight back a bit, but dislodging Russia from all of those positions, that could be pretty hard.
I mean, maybe they can do it, maybe they can't, but I mean, his predicting it is kind of, well, is it the dumbest thing he's done?
No.
Is it an extraordinarily dumb thing for an American president to do?
Yeah.
Particularly since he has no endgame in mind.
I mean, Colin Powell kind of taught us that 25 years ago.
We should not get involved in these things unless we have a clear definition of what's success.
So our definition of success now is driving Russia out of Ukraine.
You think you think Ukraine is going to drive Russia out?
I don't know.
I don't know how realistic that I mean, look, it's a it's obviously a complex issue and it's not black and white.
And it's sometimes you see in certain Western media outlets, they really turn into a Objective good versus evil, and of course there's a lot of gray.
It's not black and white, but it never is.
It is billions and billions and billions and billions and billions and billions.
It's an American military that the jackass in chief has announced we don't have enough ammunition.
Now, you all are smart enough to know you don't announce you don't have enough ammunition, right?
In fact, I think if you talk to your children who probably aren't listening to this, they would know that from just watching television.
I have no ammunition, China!
I have no ammunition!
I gave it all away to the Ukraine!
Good time to invade Taiwan!
I don't have any bullets.
It's quite something.
It really would be interesting to know how many brain cells are left.
No.
Not many.
Well, I don't want to keep Karen on hold, so let's take a quick call.
Let's see if Karen can hear us here.
Karen, you're on with the mayor.
Can you hear us, Karen?
Absolutely.
It's an honor.
I can hear you.
Am I on the air?
You are on with the mayor.
Why don't we put the speaker up?
I think you are wonderful, Rudy.
You are the best.
You rock.
Ted, happy birthday.
I love Trump, and I hope you guys win.
I watch you every day.
May God bless you, and thank you for your show.
You're the honest CS show.
Thank you.
Chat clear!
Thank you!
I love you guys.
Where are you, Karen?
On Lake Elsinore, California.
California?
In the heat desert.
Good!
I'm in the heat desert, Rudy.
I have Newsome.
He's a disgrace like your guy.
Yeah, yeah.
You know, they're going to block us.
But I love you, too.
You know what they're going to do pretty soon?
And I'll let you guys walk, and don't ever leave.
I need your CS.
Okay.
Common Sense.
RudyGiulianiCS.com.
And may God bless you, too.
Thank you very much.
And Dr. Maria, you rock.
We'll let her know.
Karen, how do you watch us?
How do you watch the show?
What platform?
Where am I, son?
Riverside, California.
I had a brain aneurysm, so I'm bed-bound.
Are you on YouTube or Twitter?
We like to hear where people are tuning in.
We're on Twitter.
Where is it, Diego?
YouTube.
All right.
YouTube.
That's yours.
You're talking to your son there.
You let your son know that he's got one cool mom.
And I love you guys!
You rock!
Don't change!
Don't leave!
I need you!
All right, we're not going anywhere.
They're going before we do.
Thank you, Karen.
I didn't want to have Karen waiting for us, so thank you, Karen.
Karen's in the desert.
You know, that reminds me of Desert Rescue.
1,500 animals that were abandoned live at Desert Rescue, and Leo Grillo has made a home for them that is absolutely superb.
And we're gonna show you, I have a podcast, oh, about a year and a half ago where I went out there and met all the animals.
The most, the most, the one that I remember the most was Chaos, a female dog that walked all the way across Afghanistan to be reunited with the soldiers that she had worked with.
Now she has her own home.
I cannot describe to you what this is like.
That's why I'm going to have to show you pictures.
All these dogs and cats have their own homes.
I mean, they share them.
They put them in little families, but they have their own homes.
It's fascinating.
It looks like Levittown for animals.
And Leo Grillo, who was a retired actor, did all this, and it's fabulous.
And of course it's horrible what happens to these animals but...
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Frank Sinatra and the movie was terrible. I've been looking forward to the movie for like four
years. And we're back. Let our audience know Mayor what movie we were talking about during the break.
We were talking about the movie and the novel First Deadly Scent and with this serial killing
I'm going to tell you about, it reminded me of the novel First Deadly Scent, which goes back to
the early 80s I think or the 80s. And And it was a major bestseller at the time.
And I just ordered a copy of it as a birthday present for Ted, because I think more than even a forensic course, if you want to teach a detective how to do a serial killing, in the course, you would sign this book.
It's so good.
about how the lieutenant breaks down the serial killer and eventually Well, I mean... Don't give it away, but is this a non-fiction or fiction?
It's fiction?
No, no, it's fiction.
Okay.
It's complete fiction, but from somebody who had intimate knowledge of how the New York City Police Department works.
Okay.
It reminds me of a Clancy book.
Tom Clancy.
Who, if you remember, like in The Hunt for the Red October.
Clancy would put aside one or two pages of almost like a large footnote.
Yeah.
And tell you technically how the submarine was made.
Yeah.
He would give you actual details.
It was a full, immersive experience.
Which you could read or not read, depending on... Well, this is very similar.
He gives you very, very detailed descriptions of how they go through these very various techniques.
for investigating, first of all, identifying and investigating a serial killing.
And when we get the book, we'll talk about it a bit.
I'll also explain to you how CompStat has increased and moved ahead, as DNA has also, the ability to catch serial killers and how we used it successfully several times.
I think it was with Howard Safer when I was mayor to catch and cut off serial killers.
So before the new DNA technology, were they, even as far back as the 70s, 60s, did they preserve evidence knowing that down the road?
You have no idea how good the homicide division of the NYPD is.
The best in the world, would you say?
Absolutely, because we had the most murders in the world to investigate.
So that makes the New York City Detectives the best in class.
The more experience you have, the better you get at it.
Plus, they don't make you a homicide detective unless you're a very smart man or woman.
Yeah, so who becomes a homicide detective?
You're selected by the police commissioner.
So the commissioner determines among... He has a staff that obviously, people apply for it.
People apply.
Are they already police officers or are you... Ordinary, well... Come from like... You have to have a certain amount of experience.
I've forgotten, I think five years.
Yeah.
And you have to and then and then you get recommended and you become first a third grade detective.
Okay.
And then if you're good, you become a second grade detective.
And then if you're really good, you become a first grade detective.
Police Commission makes those appointments.
Okay.
The other ranks and it's not really a rank.
The ranks in the police department are determined by test.
So you take a civil service test to become a sergeant, lieutenant and a captain.
Okay.
Captain's a white hat.
They're all, every officer is a white hat.
Okay, okay.
All those ranks you just mentioned.
The minute you see a white hat, you have an officer.
Okay.
And I always tell people, I've forgotten who it was on Fox, but they were covering one of the riots here.
In Times Square.
Yeah.
We were watching it together.
We broke it down.
And I said, you see the difference between us and other police departments?
How many white hats do you see in the crowd?
She said, oh, about half or a third.
I said, every single one of those is an officer.
We don't let our young police into a difficult situation without a lot of senior guidance.
Because those things can turn into a real... Proportionate number.
And also if there's an incident on the street, an officer will show up.
Well, first of all, a sergeant will show up right away.
And if it's any kind of incident at all, a lieutenant or a captain will be there.
Yeah, especially, and I can speak about Midtown.
Well, we saw Manhattan, of course.
We watched a demonstration about eight months ago where they dragged somebody out of a car.
So perfect.
Everybody who did it was over 50 years old.
And that's one way I give it away.
You can tell you what we were watching.
It was the older, more experienced detectives.
Yeah.
Who did it and noticed they didn't have the trouble that most police departments have in cuffing people.
You know, I remember that.
Yeah, it was so it was done.
So there's no reason to have that trouble if you're an experienced police officer.
And in Times Square, they put the best there, don't they?
Or at least they know there's a lot of cameras and it's high profile.
The department is very, very nimble.
So the minute there's a complex incident, they'll have the best people there quickly.
And same thing with the fire department.
That's why you have one alarm, two alarm, three alarm, four alarm fires.
The more complex the fire gets, the more firefighters you have there.
And then there are special units that you send to difficult fires.
So, I mean, that all comes from the fact that both the fire department and the police department has like 10 times the experience of any comparable other department.
You just think of, this is a city of 8 million.
The closest to it is three million.
And they haven't been that for like a century.
So you have a police department with an enormous amount of experience and knowledge and three times larger than the FBI.
The NYPD?
The NYPD is bigger than the FBI.
It's also, obviously, at this point in the history, a lot better than the FBI, but it's much bigger.
And of course, I'm guessing you get applicants for the NYPD from all across America.
I'm guessing, right?
It's kind of the department people want to be a part of.
I don't know if we're going to maintain that.
I mean, our applications are way down.
Was that the way it was when you were mayor?
I mean, until even Bloomberg, until a few years ago.
I mean, people wanted to be a part of the department.
You wanted to do NYPD.
As soon as we... I mean, under David Dinkins, the applications went way down.
Dinkins.
Because the morale went way down.
But as soon as the morale came back... I mean, you probably got 100% of the vote with the cops.
Within six months, we had record numbers, and it continued that way for 20 years until de Blasio ruined it.
De Blasio was aggressively anti-police.
He hated them, and they hated him.
Within a few months of being mayor, he caused an incident in New York that they blame on him.
They turned their backs on him, and from then on, he hated them.
It was a terrible situation.
Of course, the defunding, people, I mean, it's just another thing covered up.
The New York City Police Department was defunded.
By a billion, a billion dollars was taken out of its budget.
And Adams doesn't talk about it, but he's never put it back.
So they're down to 33,000 police.
So on September 11, they had 41,000.
See the difference?
That's a big difference.
They do not have an adequate number of police officers for a city as complex as New York.
With all the things they do, particularly the increased devotion of police officers to terrorism, and that's something you don't want to take away from, because their knowledge of terrorism is... I mean, Ray Kelly had the very brilliant idea of sending NYPD officers overseas to collect their own intelligence, because even before the FBI had the present problems, They had the problem of not playing in the sandbox really well.
In other words, not sharing information.
You hear about that?
It was not a good information sharing amongst agencies, at least some say, in the late 90s.
They point to that.
Sharing among departments.
Yeah, I mean, I siloed.
When I was a U.S.
attorney, I used the police department in every one of my big cases, and the FBI wasn't happy with it, but they had to live with it.
Because the FBI at that time was excellent.
But they were never as good in investigating homicides as the NYPD.
Yeah.
And what what what was the predicate crime that we charged the mafia with most
often homicide? So that means you had to prove the homicide.
Yeah. I mean, in one case, we had thirty three homicides that we had approved.
Yeah. So the FBI and you are a U.S.
attorney, so... The FBI doesn't generally investigate homicide.
Interesting.
Homicide is a local crime.
That makes sense, yeah.
It's investigated by the local police department.
Every police department, every major police department in the country has something like the Homicide Division of the NYPD.
They train detectives to particularly investigate homicides.
Handle death.
Yeah, murder.
And the FBI will only occasionally deal with a homicide when it happens to happen.
Federal land.
Federal land.
And if they're smart, they bring in local detectives.
Which just makes sense.
The detectives have more experience and the forensics are better.
The forensics are better.
For that kind of crime.
The FBI forensics on other kinds of crime, on white collar crimes, on terrorism, are much better.
But on doing a homicide investigation, the people who do it more often are going to be better at it.
Well, with all this background, let's talk about the arrest of this suspect in the serial killings.
Is it Rex Auermann?
Rex Auermann, and we'll get that pronunciation.
These are killings that go back 13 years ago, and they were described as the Gilgo Beach Killings.
Tell us.
And the first notice of them was May of 2010.
And a woman, a young woman named Shannon Gilbert was missing.
She was 24 years old.
She was an escort.
And they started investigating her, her being missing.
And all of a sudden, about a A year later, less than a year later, they found four bodies on Gilgo Beach, all buried within 20 to 30 feet of each other, and all of them kind of wrapped in a burlap sack, taped in a similar way, and buried
Within a quarter mile area of the, of Gilgo Beach.
And the bodies were next to each, pretty much next to each other.
Then they, then they began, they continued to investigate and they found about another, including Shannon Gilbert, they found about another eight, Suspected murders, some of which seem similar to this pattern, and some that probably weren't.
And then they had several suspects that didn't work out.
I believe this guy was a suspect also back then, but not the only one.
And then the investigation went nowhere.
But unlike what the White House and the Secret Service, it was never closed.
So recently, there's been a change in the district attorney's office in Suffolk County.
And a new police commissioner came in, by the way, from the New York City Police Department.
And the two of them decided to, along with Along with Steve Ballone, who is the county executive, might add a democrat, but a very, very fine county executive, and he authorized their reopening this investigation.
I do not know what the evidence was or if there was evidence to do it, but Or exactly who the proximate cause was to get it reopened.
But the people who made the decision are the district attorney, the police commissioner, and the county executive.
Congratulations to them for doing that, by the way.
And within a year, they have now got to the point where they arrested Rex Hauerman, who lives in Massapequa.
Which is in Nassau County.
He describes himself as an architect, and he has a firm in New York.
He's been interviewed on television within the last year, or I don't know if it was on television or on a podcast, but they keep playing it.
In which he's really talking about his business.
He wasn't being interviewed as a suspect.
I have to say, excuse me Mr. Howerman, I don't know if you're the guy who did it or not, but you do sound rather strange in this interview.
And now he's been arrested.
I think he's been charged with three of those three murders of those four women, all of whom were about the same age, 23 or 24, all of whom were escorts.
He's been charged with three of them, and he's been declared a suspect in the fourth.
Exactly why there's a distinction between the three and the fourth, I don't know.
And then he's under investigation for maybe another seven or eight.
But I guess they felt that they were in a position to have strong enough evidence to go ahead with the first three and therefore get them the hell off the street.
Because you never know with a serial killer.
I mean, we have to presume him to be innocent.
But we do know there's a serial killer out there.
And at least we're at the point where The authorities have come to a decision of probable cause that this is the guy who did it.
And when you do, there's a pretty strong impetus to get him off the street.
It's not uncommon with serial killers for them to take long periods of time off.
And then they go back to it, like 8, 10, 12 years later.
Not unusual at all.
And who knows what the pathology is that creates that.
It's almost as if someone once described it as they can't be comfortable with not being caught.
So they go 10, 12 years, and then they... And who knows?
It could be really interesting when it eventually comes out what it is, what fact brought this back into their orbit.
It had to be something.
I mean, it could be they just decided to review the case.
We do that in the NYPD.
We have a cold case division.
I think there was actually a television series about that at one point.
The Cold Case Squad.
Cold Case Files.
Cold Case.
Yeah.
Lots of shows like that.
Cold Case Files.
And they regularly, without particular evidence coming up, they'll regularly review files.
And of course, they were very, very active.
They probably have run through most of them by now, when DNA first became prominent.
Because DNA solved any number of cold case homicide cases.
And as I said to Ted, and we'll find out just how far back it goes, but decades ago, the NYPD preserved blood And samples from the body, not just in rape cases, in all cases, and certainly in all murder cases.
So you are capable of going back in most of these cases and getting the DNA that was available at the scene.
And if you do just really fairly modest things to preserve it, you can preserve DNA forever.
We can get DNA from prehistoric times.
They apparently used it here.
He was arrested, of course, in Midtown Manhattan after authorities described DNA evidence linking him to the crime gathered from pizza crust, bottles, and human hairs.
Investigators leaked him to the killings using not only DNA but technology that pinpointed the location of disposable cell phones they believe the killer used to contact the victims just hours before they disappeared.
The first body being discovered December 11, 2010.
It was Miss Barthelme.
Police were conducting a training exercise and the canine found her remains.
And then two days later, police found the remains of three other women in that area.
Later that year, they found the remains of Valerie Mack, a 24-year-old mother from Southern New Jersey.
I remember these coming up in the newspaper and the original investigation.
And then the remains of six other people on top of the four we discussed and Mrs. Mack.
Six others, four women, one man, and a two-year-old girl who was a daughter of one of the women.
They were also unearthed in the months that followed and these six deaths remain unsolved.
Now the attorney for this gentleman says that the evidence is circumstantial and that his client had wept, telling him, I didn't do this.
The attorney also added, we're looking forward to fighting this case in the court of law.
All of them just immediately confess.
I mean, I'm surprised that he, I mean, we have to.
Oh, you've, you've mentioned this before, Mayor.
Every single person I ever arrested.
Yeah.
Yeah.
That's what you, you've mentioned that before.
I've never arrested anybody that was guilty.
I've got a terrible record, but then I convicted all of them.
Yeah.
But come to find out, they're all innocent!
They told you!
Well, many of them later on confessed.
But quite interesting, you know, midtown Manhattan, we spend a lot of time here.
Just to think that this man, there's a potential, again, innocent until proven guilty, that a man who had killed upwards of 15 people had been walking among us day in and day out, right?
Going about, assuming... Not uncommon with serial killers.
I told you, what happens is they do, they go through a period of time and they do their killings.
And then sometimes they get tired of it and they stop.
And then something later triggers whatever the pathology is to go do it again.
So he did it in groups, maybe four at a time.
I spent a long time since I studied this, but I did a long time ago.
Some of it has to do with the excitement of it.
They missed the excitement of it.
I mean, it has to be.
So I just can't imagine, right?
Killing one person, let alone it doesn't even enter the con of like how you could do it.
It's just it's interesting.
But prosecutors laid out an intricate investigation that saw a break in March 2022 when investigators discovered that Mr. Harriman had owned a Chevrolet Avalanche truck at the time of the killings.
A witness had seen an Avalanche So this is 12, 13 years ago.
I mean, that's quite remarkable.
ways shortly before she disappeared.
I mean, that's quite remarkable.
So that evidence goes back to 2010.
Burner cell phones.
So what he was doing there, he was meeting women on these online websites.
At the time, I think there was a back page.
Anyway, there were websites where you could solicit sex.
It isn't that long ago that there was DNA by then.
Yeah.
2010.
For at least a decade, there obviously were cell phones, not as sophisticated as now, but by 2010, they were pretty darn sophisticated.
So it isn't that long ago that you won't be able to dig up some pretty good forensic evidence.
Investigators learned that Mr. Auermann used burner phones to contact prostitutes or massage parlors and used false names to set up email accounts to search for sex workers and online and he would meet up with these women he even used he'd send selfies and they have these selfies you can find them online just selfies of him from the time And investigators say he repeatedly viewed hundreds of images depicting the murdered victims and members of their immediate family.
So after the murders or before?
The account was used to send selfies to solicit and arrange for sexual activity And to search for podcasts and documentaries related to the investigation.
So he had a pair of... the accusations are he had carried out these murders and then on these same devices, phones I'm assuming and maybe an iPad, he was then... he would search for years after, right?
Because these people would go missing and there'd be news coverage of them, right?
That's the part I was interested in.
I mean, he actually- He would cover it and watch it all.
He kept, he kept reviewing it.
He kept reviewing it.
Yes.
Allegedly.
Allegedly, all this is alleged.
So we'll keep up with this case.
Of course, it dominated the headlines here in New York.
Not being from the area, I kind of had to catch up to it.
But this is quite- It was, it was,
it was very much in the news back then, several different times,
because it came up at different times.
Different people were discovered.
And it took a while to link it together as a serial killing.
And I'm not sure all of them were linked together back then as part of the serial killers.
And there also was the thought it was maybe more than one person.
It may still turn out to be more than one person, I don't know.
That's right, because unfortunately, you've also mentioned this, certain parts of New York, they are dumping grounds.
Right, for potentially hundreds of murders.
And it's all, you know, it's just unfortunate, but that's an area where there's a potential others could be dumping bodies as well.
Well, what a terrible story, Mayor, to end the week on.
We have just 30 seconds left.
We have a tight ending tonight, right, because of our plans.
Our plans to celebrate the birthday Of our friend here.
So we'll end on the second half of the baseball season is about to begin, and the perennial winners of the Eastern Division in the American League, where I happen to be a fan, the Yankees and the Red Sox are in last place, and the Yankees are in second to last place, which means the world is not aligned correctly.
It should be the Yankees in first place and the Red Sox in second place, and then we should play off.
And this team called, that had to actually change its name.
I mean, you never can trust teams that change their names.
The Tampa Bay Rays.
They used to be the Devil Rays, but I guess they couldn't deal with the satanic connections of Devil.
Somebody must have, some woke person must have objected to that.
So they've become the Rays, and they won their first 18 games or something.
And then they stopped winning.
I mean, they stopped remembering how to lose.
And they're way ahead.
They're like eight games ahead of the Yankees and 10 games ahead of the Red Sox.
And the only team that is within striking distance of them is Baltimore.
And the Yankees are in second to last place, and the Red Sox are in last place.
And if they were in the central division of the American League, they'd be in first place.
Because their division is so tough.
So it's very, very interesting.
So the Yankees are going to have to improve their offense because their offense is down.
They're missing Aaron, they're missing Judge, and that has really had both a practical effect on the team because he produces a lot of runs, and it also has had, apparently, really a psychological effect because nobody's Very often when your star goes down, the other players up their game and keep things going and just the opposite has happened.
So they're going to need, they're going to need their, and they have unbelievable hitters like, you know, LeMayu and Rizzo and 300 hitters, all-stars.
They're all batting somewhere in the 200s.
And they're just going to have to turn it around.
They also have an excellent pitching staff.
So, my prediction as a Yankee fan is that they'll end up in the playoffs.
Imagine that!
And then once you get in the playoffs, anything can happen.
The season starts all over again.
They're only one game out from the last playoff spot.
So, uh... One game out.
One game out.
We gotta see them make it.
And they're playing tonight, late, in Colorado.
We'll put it on.
Where, uh...
The ball goes a lot further.
The ball does go a lot further.
If I were a kicker in football, I'd want to be playing for the Denver Broncos, Mayor.
You know, one thing, though, when you go there, you can have altitude sickness.
Yes.
You know what?
Am I allowed to tell people what football teams used to use for altitude sickness when they went to play the Air Force Academy?
I mean, if you're going to ask, you got to tell us.
Ah, who was using Viagra?
Teams.
When they went to play Air Force in Colorado Springs?
Yeah, I don't know if baseball teams did it, but that day was a kind of a minor scandal.
Also, they gave it to horses.
Viagra?
Uh-huh.
Like for a race, for a show?
Performance based?
Because it accelerates the flow of blood.
Ah.
So it accelerates the flow of blood to the extremities.
The brain is an extremity.
So the theory is that Viagra, in addition to doing what has made it a multi-billion dollar drug, actually acts as a help against headaches.
And it'll flood your brain with blood.
Now I'm guessing it's not, that would be considered a performance enhancer?
We have a, you know, obviously down in Palm Beach, it's horse culture.
We gotta tell our friends!
Viagra!
I'm not endorsing anybody.
No, no, no.
No one's cheating.
We don't want anybody to cheat.
Wait, wait.
I'm not endorsing anybody using it for that purpose.
I'm not a doctor.
I'm reporting a fact.
Yeah.
And I would urge people, if they want to use it for that purpose, talk to your doctor.
Consult!
There we go.
There we go.
Spoken like a lawyer.
No, no.
The doctor is able to prescribe it to you as an off-label use.
But nobody else can.
And it is not approved by the FDA for that purpose.
Yeah, I mean it is only approved by the FDA for erectile dysfunction.
The only thing it's approved for.
And when I asked Pfizer why they never tested it for these other things, they told me they didn't want to risk its approval for erectile dysfunction because it was, at that point, the biggest moneymaker in their history.
And I wonder about that explanation, but We'll pick that up Monday.
So what I told you is not an FDA-approved use.
But what I told you, a doctor has the discretion to prescribe it to you for that purpose.
As an off-label use.
I can't.
Nobody else can.
And nobody else can recommend it for that purpose.
Yes.
I'm just telling you what I know and read in the newspapers.
Consult your doctor.
That's what we're telling everybody.
Consult your doctor.
Absolutely right.
That will be, that's your last advice and message of the week, right?
Consult your doctor.
You have any questions?
Yeah.
And don't, I would say consult your doctor with one caveat, not Dr. Fauci.
Oh, that's a good one.
He may be getting royalties from an opposite company or from them.
And his advice will be, will be affected by his economic interests.
Which is the point of Robert F. Kennedy Jr.' 's book, about which Robert F. Kennedy is absolutely right.
And I would describe it as follow the money and you can figure out the scandal of the pandemic.
I don't know if you know this because they cover it up, but Fauci and his little men All got royalties over and above their government salary.
So Fauci was the highest paid federal employee.
800,000 a year?
Something like that.
How bizarre.
What a bizarre, bizarre.
But he also was able to get royalties, but he won't tell us how much.
And he won't reveal his royalties.
So, unfortunately, Since I have this prosecutor complex, it just tells me he doesn't want to reveal them because they're problematic.
Because if they weren't, he'd reveal them in a second.
So you want to bet he had economic interests that created enormous conflicts during the pandemic?
I don't know for sure, but it's a pretty logical conclusion.
Because he acted that way.
He lied like crazy.
That's a different subject.
Maybe we'll get Robert Kennedy Jr.
on at some point.
We're getting RFK on.
Excellent book, because this is not by any means an endorsement of him for president.
I disagree with him on about half of what he talks about.
But on this, he's spot on.
Absolutely.
And the book is filled with footnotes.
I take workout advice from you, too.
So you don't have to be subjected to his opinion.
You can go look at the footnotes and test his opinion.
It really is pretty close to a scholarly work.
And of course, it became a bestseller.
Look at the guy.
I went to the New York Times advertising it or it wouldn't have most bookstores didn't have it.
I don't even know how people got the Don thing.
I got it on Amazon.
Look at RFK Jr.
Look at Anthony Fauci.
Just by looking at them, I would trust much more from RFK what to put in my body than Anthony Fauci.
You ever see RFK?
That guy could beat me up.
RFK Jr., he's a big guy.
Then you have to go to, we got to get you to Charles Atlas.
No, I mean, RFK is a big, no, no, no, no, no.
This is like the old-fashioned commercial.
Admitting that RFK can take you.
He's a big guy.
This is like the old-fashioned advertisement they used to have in a little comic advertisement where the guy's laying on the beach with his girlfriend and some big muscle guy kicks sand in his face and then it says, if you want to defend your girlfriend or you want to keep your girlfriend, go to Charles Atlas.
Yeah.
Fair enough.
Yeah, I'm not, I'm not, I'm not going to admit that, uh, I don't know if Charles Atlas exists anymore, but we'll send you to something like that.
So you don't get in great shape.
Well, I don't want RFK to be chicken sand in your face and you can't defend yourself and taking your girlfriend away.
Never.
Is he married?
Is RFK married?
I believe he is.
He's a ladies man too.
He's a Kennedy.
I don't, I don't think that's fair.
I don't think you can attribute the sins of this one on that one.
But by saying ladies, man, I don't mean that as like he's fooling around.
I mean, that is like, of course he's married.
He's a catch.
That's what I meant.
Yeah.
No.
Whoa, whoa, whoa.
RFK by all accounts.
Good, good guy.
Good guy.
We like him because he's criticizing Biden.
Wrong on, wrong on.
Anybody that wants to criticize Biden, I'm going to encourage because it really is kind of unnerving to have a madman in the White House.
Well, okay, we are over time and Ted is anxious to have his party, so we're gonna say have a happy weekend.
Don't forget on Sunday at 10 on wabcradio.com, Uncovering the Truth with Dr. Maria.
There's so much truth to uncover, we should have about eight hours this weekend.
My goodness, there's so many lies each week.
You know, when I get ready for that show, I look at the things that, you know, the lies that are out there that have to be examined.
And it started with one or two a week, now I could write an encyclopedia each week.
So it should be an interesting, I'm sure we'll be dealing with the cocaine in the White House, 11 day investigation.
But And also go to RudolfRudigiulianiCS.com and you got a great, uh, you have a great, uh, uh, it'll lay out a great description of it for you.
And, um, so you'll be prepared for the weekend show.
Thank you.
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