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June 9, 2023 - Rudy Giuliani
01:00:40
America's Mayor Live (E165): Breaking Down the Indictment of Trump
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Good evening and welcome to America's Mayor Live.
And we're coming to you about a half hour early because we have an engagement tonight, a very, very wonderful award that I'm very honored by, which is the Mother Teresa Award given to me by the Albanian community.
And I did know Mother Teresa.
As the mayor, I met her several times.
And every time I met her, she had little assignments for me.
Which included making sure that unknowns didn't have to pay parking tickets.
Thought it was hilarious.
And then I found out she did the same thing with Mayor Koch and we had quite a laugh over it.
Imagine a saint wanted to fix parking tickets.
Wow.
Well, that's just about what Trump was indicted for, parking tickets.
That's about what this is worth, this piece of junk here, from a well-known unethical prosecutor, good old Jack Smith.
Is that really his name, Smith?
Is it really Smith?
Mayor.
Mayor.
I don't believe it, right?
Like, come on.
I think after they reversed the case in the Supreme Court, Because of the unethical behavior of Smith and his crew in the McDonald case and withholding exculpatory evidence.
I think he probably changed his name or something or other.
But I mean, imagine the guy going on.
That's why I think he went out of his way to say those things about how ethical his entire staff of leakers are.
Uh, they may very well be the same people that were involved in screwing up the McDonald case and getting it reversed by the Supreme Court.
Uh, they sure as hell screwed up this one.
Uh, this is, this is an absolutely ridiculous case.
And let's start off with, um, I'm not sure I knew what that appearance was about today.
I guess to try to prejudice the jury or something, but he really put his foot in his, in his ridiculously silly mouth.
Uh, the way he did it was to say, well, why don't we, can we play what he said?
And then we're going to, we're going to take his standard and we're going to apply it to this case.
And we're going to see what happened in this case.
If you apply his standard, let's listen.
Commitment to the rule of law sets an example for the world.
We have one set of laws in this country and they apply to everyone.
So, Jack, the prosecutor who helped to get the McDonnell case reversed by unethical behavior, lectured us today.
Thank you, Jack, for lecturing us.
He told us we have one set of laws in America, and they apply to everyone.
Well, based on that, Jack, you've got to dismiss this.
I mean, Hillary Clinton destroyed 33,000 emails.
She had someone take a hammer and destroy government property, a hard drive.
There's nothing here about anything being destroyed.
Nothing.
Everything's still there.
I don't know.
Some of it that you claim is classified, I read about it in the newspapers.
Gee, I don't know, I think that was kind of like too sensitive if I read about it in the news.
I want you to know I figured out, Jack, Who you are talking about, because you make it sound like, oh, this is so secret.
And Trump is such a bad guy for telling the reporter about the senior military official.
Oh, and a country A. And that Trump might order an attack of country A. And that the senior military official advised Trump against doing it.
And Trump made reference to a document that shows that the senior military official, who spends a lot of his time doing this, was lying.
And there his name and, I believe, signature was on a document where he was the architect of this attack.
Very, very secret information, except it's been written in every newspaper in the world that the military official is Milley and the country is China.
And people will remember it because it ended up with Milley having a conversation with the defense commissar, chief Communist defense minister in China, and basically telling him, you know, if Trump attacks you, I'll kind of warn you.
Good guy, Millie, huh?
But I mean, the point is, when we put somebody in jail over showing a document that 100 million people have know about, it's been discussed, debated, argued in the newspapers.
There's a little more of that in here too.
Here's the whole point of this.
This is a record, these are alleged record mistakes.
They are not, there's no, there isn't even a suggestion that any of this information got to our enemies, that any of this information, well actually it's not even described as all that sensitive.
Like I just described to you, what I just described is not that sensitive, it's already known.
I bet when I go through this, there's going to be a lot more that I can figure out, gee, just from my own knowledge of the newspapers, which makes this no harm, no foul, a completely record-keeping technical violation.
Now, if you apply, if there really is one set of laws, then Hillary Clinton should be sitting in jail right now.
She actually destroyed The records you feel so strongly about here, that you don't allege anyone was destroyed.
You don't even allege any of them were compromised with regard to their getting to any of our enemies.
Or whereas in Hillary's case, she may very well have been hacked by the Russians.
In Biden's case, he took the same type of documents.
He stole them.
Trump had a right.
Trump took them with him when he was still president.
For the purpose of complying with the Presidential Record Act and going through them and figuring out which ones are personal, which ones are not, and what kind of time limit should be placed on them.
There's a whole set of regulations that governs that.
It doesn't have any criminal penalties.
But I guess you thought you were Congress and the court, so you set up your own criminal penalties.
Meanwhile, Hillary's walking around scot-free for doing 50,000 times more than this.
So, are we really serious, Jack?
We have one set of laws in America and they apply to everyone?
In that case, what's Hunter Biden doing walking around?
We don't apply laws to him.
I mean, your guys don't apply laws to him, do they?
Or, what's happening with Biden's records case?
Getting fixed, like all the other cases against Biden.
Probably one of the least serious of all the cases against Biden.
What about the one with the $10 million bribe?
$10 million bribe!
And this is about a bunch of stupid records where nobody was hurt.
Mayor, can you kind of go over why there's 37 counts and what that signals to you?
To make it look like a case.
And it isn't.
Mayor, I heard Trump's lawyers just resigned today.
Do you think that's a good sign or a bad sign?
Well, I don't think they're the lawyers who are going to try the case.
Some time ago, he hired a new lawyer to try the case.
So I think this is a very usual thing that happens when an indictment comes down.
Usually, you might want to use a different lawyer to try the case than the one who Yeah, yeah, yeah.
There are lawyers who are really experts and preach what we call a pre-indictment advocacy.
And then there are those who are very gifted trial lawyers.
And if they go to trial, that's what he's going to need.
Although I think there's a motion that could be made here to dismiss this as Chapter 5 or 6 in the ever-expanding attempt of the Democrats to frame him.
I mean, this is no different than Russian collusion made up by Hillary, paid for by Hillary.
Oh, gee, I don't know.
If we have one set of laws, how come she didn't go to jail for that one?
She paid $1.1 million to get false opposition research, which was then put into a warrant for a wire on an innocent person and filled with lies by the FBI.
None of them The set of laws you're talking about don't seem to apply to Comey.
Jesus, he lied like hell in the affidavit.
Doesn't apply to him.
Biden's got, what, 31 million from China?
Nothing's happened with 31 million from China for the Bidens.
I seem to notice in the Durham report that the FBI that you used in this case They dropped four different investigations on the Clinton Foundation, which probably is a RICO case in and of itself.
Clinton used it as a, as a, you know, cash cow.
That's when they went to the level, you know, they began as like a little, Backstreet grifters and they ended up being international criminals like Biden.
Biden was like a little guy scraping around for bribes when he first became senator.
Now he gets really big bribes, like 5 million, 10 million, 31 million.
And 10% for the big guy and 50% for pop.
And we wanted to know where's the money?
Joe, come on.
You don't have offshore bank accounts?
What about the woman in Ukraine that wanted to talk to the FBI and they never went to see her?
Come on, you know about that, Joe.
You know how many witnesses the FBI hasn't interviewed?
You could do about five trials of it.
You could fill up a courtroom with the witnesses the FBI has not interviewed.
Now, this woman was ready to testify even before Biden announced her president.
She was ready to testify in early 2020.
Could have gotten this thing over with before the presidential election.
Except the FBI didn't think it was important enough to interview the chief accountant of the crooked company Burisma, owned and run by an organized criminal.
Uh, who alleged that she had the offshore bank accounts of all the corrupt politicians that Mykola Zochevsky was paying off.
Zochevsky is the same guy who provided the 10 million to the Bidens.
That's now part of the, uh, now part of the FBI report by the credible, uh, informant.
Good chance this goes out.
Good chance it gets dismissed.
There's a whole long history of prosecutorial and government misconduct.
Maybe a court will recognize that the Justice Department and the FBI have turned into Biden's state police and state prosecutor.
Kind of similar to a communist country or Nazi Germany.
They indict innocent people.
They let very guilty people off.
And the way to deal with an election is to indict your opponent.
I mean, the other way to deal with it is to cover up evidence that you're a criminal, which you did last time.
Maybe even screw around with the ballots.
Oh no, Biden's wouldn't do that.
The kind of people who take 100 million in bribes, it wouldn't be the kind of people that would try to fix it up.
Come on, Giuliani.
Come on, you're making that up about the election being fixed.
I've been right about everything else, haven't I?
Tell me what I haven't been right about.
I told you that Russian collusion was completely false.
I kept him from being removed on that first impeachment.
They didn't even impeach him on that.
We beat the hell out of Mueller on that one.
I mean, not hard because he wasn't guilty.
Hard because we have a corrupt press and a bunch of corrupt politicians.
Told you the truth about the hard drive.
Took 16 months for them to admit it, but they did.
You're finding out that I told you the truth about Ukraine.
But that document that was discovered comes from the original documents that I gave to the FBI and confirms what I gave to the FBI.
So why would I mislead you about the election?
All I care about is the laws of this country really being enforced equally with regard to everyone, and they're not.
And Jack Smith is either a fool, which I don't think he is, or a liar.
So you pick.
In either case, the case should be thrown out.
It's a piece of junk.
It stinks up our justice system.
It makes us look like what we've become, a fascist federal system of justice.
Mayor, before we move on, can you kind of explain the differences between having this case handled in the Southern District of Florida as opposed to, let's say, for example, Washington, D.C.?
Well, the main difference is the jury pool.
Washington, D.C.
is roughly 97, 98% Democrat or at least non-Republican registration.
That's ridiculous.
I mean, that's like a communist state, a one-party state.
I mean, New York is a one-party state, but this is like a real one-party state.
I mean, you're not even allowed to exist.
I mean, I represented a client, a young, very fine young lady who was tortured in the DC school system.
And she actually got a letter from another girl who, I don't think she even understood what she wrote.
And she said, why did you think a Republican could go to school in the District of Columbia?
It's Democrat.
If you think you can get a fair trial in the District of Columbia, out of your mind.
You'd have to be, if you tell your client you can get a fair trial in the District of Columbia, And you're a lawyer, you should go do something else for a living.
Those cases should be moved.
If you really have any kind of dedication or fair trial in this country, the cases should be moved out of the District of Columbia because the entire potential jury panel has been completely brainwashed by the Washington media.
And before we move on, Mayor, and I know this isn't a law school class, but could we quickly maybe go over the jury selection process for something like this?
How does that play out in a federal case like this?
In a federal case, and it's true in most states, both sides get challenges.
You get a group of peremptory challenges.
It depends on It depends on the state.
It depends on the rules of criminal procedure in that state.
Or sometimes it depends on an agreement that both sides can make and agree we're going to have six peremptory challenges each.
What does that mean?
That means you can throw somebody off for any reason.
You don't have to give a reason.
And that's based on your questioning of the juror.
And based on your instincts, and a lot of people use jury experts, too.
The validity of which is, the older lawyers probably don't think they're all that valuable, and the younger lawyers probably think they are valuable, and I think it depends on the case, and how well you know the territory.
Fascinating, by the way.
But, peremptory means, I just, we question the jurors, And I challenged the person and the judge, unless I do it for an improper reason like discrimination, the judge can't challenge it.
You have to throw the person off.
You only get six.
So you got to use them wisely and carefully.
Because when you're out of your six, then the only way you can get someone challenged is to convince the judge that the person is too biased to remain on the jury, which is hard to do.
Because the judge usually concludes the conversation with the person who may admit, you know, I'm a Democrat and I've never voted for a Republican in my life.
And I think they're all a bunch of rich crooks.
Now get him thrown off.
And then the judge will say, do you think you could be fair?
And the juror will say, what are you going to say?
The judge, no.
The juror says, yeah.
And the judge, you know, if the judge, depending a little bit on the, judges don't have biases, right?
Depending on the bias of the judge, he may very well keep that person on.
But once you use up your peremptory challenges, you're in a situation where You've got to convince the judge that the person is too prejudiced to be on the jury.
Then you get the people who try to pretend they're prejudiced because they want to get off.
And judges try to stop that when they can, but I always get uncomfortable with, I've always, always was uncomfortable with jurors that didn't want to be there.
And judges forced them to be there.
Seriously, they took the case.
I mean, you're a prosecutor and you should have like a really good case on like this piece of crap.
You basically want smart, fair-minded people because you're not asking them to do anything wrong, whereas the defense lawyer, more often than not, you're trying to fool them.
May, I got a question real quick.
Do you think like, I'm reading this indictment here, the counts, like if he gets convicted, No, no, they don't get, no, judges, even very biased judges don't do that.
And if they did, they get reversed.
Right, and it looks like he's like literally facing technically life imprisonment.
Yeah, over a hundred years or some ridiculous amount.
It seems like the Democrats just want to put him in prison, just to silence him.
And they just want to lock away the key.
Yeah, all of the counts, let's say all of the obstruction counts, will be considered like one count.
uh if god forbid he's convicted for the purpose of sentencing it might be that some of the other conduct a judge would consider sufficiently different so we might give two sentences but he's not going to give 35 36 sentences no and uh and and plus the judge can see behind this this is a tactic to make it look he doesn't have much of a case so he writes a lot of bullshit i mean it's what they call a speaking indictment Which is why he makes mistakes, like trying to make that thing sound very, very confidential, which anyone who follows politics knows backwards and forward, the whole situation with Milley and China.
Mayor, we're getting a lot of questions about this.
And of course, a lot of folks want to know, do you think this is a blatant example of the opposition, the powers that be, what everyone referred to them as?
Is this an example of them wanting to just get them off the ballot?
100%.
They just don't want them running.
They're scared.
They will do anything to stop them.
I mean, they've already shown that, right?
We don't need, this is, that's why I'm saying this is chapter five or chapter six or chapter seven.
I mean, you could, You could do like a whole series of... One season devoted to Russian collusion, and the next season devoted to the Ukrainian frame-up, and the next season the hard drive cover-up.
The next season, the fixing of the election, and the next season, the Bragg made-up indictment, and then this piece of junk.
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hour.
Mayor, if Trump gets indicted, Gosselin gets convicted, who leads the GOP to the future I don't want to get into that yet.
He will remain the leader.
I promise you, if they put that man anywhere near a prison cell, he will become even greater of a leader than he is now.
That's the question.
He will lead from, if heaven forbid anything like that came to fruition, I truly believe his mandate to lead would grow and plenty of Americans who right now, for better or for worse, are distracted or not paying attention to this would hopefully, right Mayor, and obviously we want to hear from you on this.
I just had such a knee-jerk reaction there.
But I, uh, yeah, it would be, it would be highly unlikely.
The highly unlikely that these would be concluded, but in time for the election,
it seems like they will be right now. But each of both indictments.
and I'm going to be in the next have a whole series of motions that can attack the sufficiency of the indictment.
The one in New York doesn't even bother to tell you what the crime, the underlying crime is, which I've never seen an indictment that doesn't specify the crime.
I mean, there are so many problems with that indictment that if they're dealing with it at all, even in a vaguely fair way, it's got to be dismissed, at least rewritten.
Right now there's a state of crime.
This one here could very well be dismissed too.
If it is, the government will appeal it.
So you're going to have a lot of what we call motion practice here.
And at least a federal one.
I mean, we don't know how New York is going to handle it.
You just don't know what you're going to get in the New York system.
But in the federal system, the rules are pretty darn strict, and it would be very unlikely that this thing is going to get done in time for going to trial before the election.
When you do creative prosecuting, when you start creating crimes, Any attorney can figure out numerous challenges to it that the courts have to take seriously and will.
Remember, first, the district judge has to decide.
And then if the district judge decides against the government or against the defendant, you can often appeal.
Well, maybe we'll take our well let's wait for the 8pm hour to hit before we play our great message from our friend Kirk Elliott PhD so we'll wait until the top of the hour.
We're just four minutes away from our regular start time so we expect a new group of folks to join us but we are.
We're hitting some good records in our chats.
We have hundreds, thousands of people across the internet tuning in live to what we like to call the fastest hour on the internet, Mayor, and a lot of questions.
Do you think this is true, I ask my audience, from that great, great scholar, Joe Scarborough, who I thought had retired, What kind of ratings does he get?
Like five people, six people?
Remember that guy?
Is he still on?
Yeah, I didn't think he was.
Who?
Morning Joe.
Who's that?
Read that?
Oh, oh.
Most Americans just don't care about Biden family corruption.
That's what Joe feels.
Americans don't care that he's corrupt.
That's what genius Joe Says.
Now here's just one little poll which is indicative of all of them.
78% of likely U.S.
voters say they've closely followed reports of Hunter Biden, including 47% who say they follow them very closely.
That was an April Rasmussen poll.
A Harvard-Harris survey found 60% believe Hunter sold access to the president.
58% say Joe Biden was part of Hunter's business interests.
And 67% believe that if true, the misdeeds constitute an impeachable crime.
Can you repeat that last number?
67% disagree with the great genius of MSNBC, who I thought had retired.
67%.
Well, first of all, Mr. Mayor, no one watches MSNBC, so we don't have to worry about what
I don't even think that's a real channel.
Honestly, your show gets way more views than any show on that channel, so I wouldn't even worry about their opinions.
I'm going to say, Joe and Crazy Mika!
Crazy Joe and Crazy Mika!
It's funny how Trump gets people off in a tizzy over silliness, right?
I love seeing all these liberals, right, coming to the defense of these corporate journalists.
Oh, how dare you punch down at so and so.
I know, I know.
It's funny how Trump gets people off in a tizzy over silliness, right?
Yeah, it's very silly, very silly stuff.
So, the, um, every, every report that I've read says just about definitively that China
is setting up a whole outpost in Cuba so that they can more effectively eavesdrop on us.
The only disagreement is the administration who say it's not true.
Mayor, we had Chinese police stations here in Chinatown, so what are they talking about?
Do you think these are like the same people, like the 51 intelligence people who said the hard drive was Russian disinformation?
Well, why do they feel the need to talk with Cuba when they can just fly their balloons right over the country?
Or have police stations in downtown Manhattan?
Why Cuba?
Just to show you can push Biden around.
Slap him around a little.
He won't do anything.
No, they're denying that it's true.
I must say, RFK Jr., I saw him interviewed again the other day.
I think you're right.
I think you're right.
Slap him around a little.
He won't do anything.
No, they're denying that it's true.
Hey, that might be room for another Kennedy, right?
People think Cuba, they think Cuba, crisis, they think Kennedy.
RFK could use this to his advantage, maybe.
I must say RFK Jr., I saw him interviewed again the other day.
He did a great job on the interview.
Gosh, I mean.
Bye.
Comment below.
What are your thoughts on Kennedy?
And we'll read some off to the mayor.
I think our audience might know.
I know there are lots of there are lots of disagreements on certainly with me when I was mayor used to sue the city all the time to protect the Hudson River.
And some of the lawsuits were valid way back when there was pollution.
But then a lot of them started to be really picky and silly and And he was like, um, driven.
But now I listen to him and wow, I mean, very, very balanced, very supports everything he says.
Thought his book was terrific.
The only Democrat to call out Lord Fauci.
Yeah, but you know, I'll tell you the thing about the book that doesn't get enough credit for he The book almost has more footnotes than it has text.
So if you see something there, and you wonder, gee, this is very controversial, you can go look at the article that he interpreted.
He really makes his case against the pharmaceutical industry.
They must really hate him.
Well, Mayor, I don't know if you're aware, that book, as soon as it came out, was banned on Amazon immediately.
And he actually had to sue them to get the book back on Amazon.
Yeah, that's right.
Yeah.
Yeah.
That's right.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Because we live in a fascist state.
Correct.
That's correct.
We banned books about... I mean, they also turned out to be totally We had banned a couple of times because we said things about the vaccine and you weren't allowed to question the vaccine.
That's right.
And some of these bans happened retroactively, like a year later.
Oh, yeah.
Yeah.
Because we raised some questions about the vaccine has not been properly tested, which is true.
It wasn't tested at all.
That's part of the emergency procedure they use.
You can't lie about that.
I mean, they had to get it.
I mean, there was an argument they had to get it out right away.
But the trade-off for that was you don't do the proper tests.
And the reason vaccines are tested for two years or three years is that problems with them sometimes don't emerge until a year or two years later.
I mean, not that I know all this, Dr. Maria taught me this, and then a lot of the doctors that I interviewed.
So the questions, for example, how about a very clear one?
At the very, very beginning, Biden was telling us the complete falsity that the vaccine was going to basically cure the disease, like the polio vaccine, like COVID was gone.
And people that didn't take it were Dangerous, crazy people.
Turns out that just about as many people that took the vaccine got COVID as people who didn't.
And there actually are studies where more people who took the vaccine got it eventually than people who didn't.
So the people were banned Making that point, they turned out to be right, and YouTube and everybody else turned out to be wrong.
That's why this whole thing about disinformation is so dangerous.
Disinformation is in the mind of the beholder, and who gets to define it is the dictator.
If I can define disinformation, I can cut your head off, which they did.
So, saying that the vaccine is a perfect cure for COVID is dictated.
And if you say anything different, you're cut off, your income is taken away, and you're fired.
Then it turns out, six months later, you're right.
In fact, they just They just banned the Pfizer.
Johnson and Johnson.
The Johnson and Johnson vaccine, which I do remember right at the very beginning.
Problems from the beginning.
Blood clots.
Yeah, right.
Yeah.
And myocarditis.
I didn't even know what myocarditis was.
I've heard of it in television.
Well, and Dr. Maria and several other doctors actually showed me exactly why.
I mean, from the very beginning, they thought that it would create Myocarditis, because of the way it plays around with your genes.
Don't ask me to explain it, but.
It was happening in a lot of young men, Mayor, like teenage boys, early 20s, they were getting inflamed hearts.
And I bet when we get the background research, it'll be right there in the Pfizer material.
All the vaccines.
Yeah.
That's why they didn't want to put it out for 75.
No way, they'll put it out eventually.
Remember, they actually didn't want to put it out for 75 years.
What's going to come first, Mayor?
Pfizer's findings or Trump going to jail?
Trump's not going to jail.
If he goes to jail, the prisoners will break him out.
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Okay, so let's listen to that very, very smooth, sophisticated, very elegant talking Chris Christie.
You must be the thinnest-skinned guy in America.
Because you think that's a confrontational tone, then, you know, you should really see me when I'm pissed.
You have numbers, like Reid Koshura, who put out a statement, you know, comparing me to George Wallace and Lester Maddox.
And let me tell you something, after you graduate from law school, you conduct yourself like that in a courtroom, your rear end's gonna get thrown in jail, idiot.
She should really be embarrassed.
And what a jerk she is.
So listen, you want to have the conversation later, I'm happy to have it, buddy.
But until that time, sit down and shut up.
Sounds a little like Demented Biden there on that one.
You know, where Biden loses his temper?
Which I am told by a number of doctors is one of the symptoms of dementia.
Because I don't remember... One of the reasons why I think it's hard to tell That Biden's dementia is, he's always been profoundly stupid and dumb as hell and would say the stupidest things.
So the fact that he's saying things that seem dumb, you don't equate it with dementia, but it's a different, you got to read the DSM-5.
You got to look at the symptoms of dementia.
He's got them all.
And one of them is shortness of temper.
Like, you know, when he wanted to take the guy outside and fight with him.
You know, I actually don't think he's much of a fighter.
Ted knows this.
I actually believe that Corn Pop kicked his ass.
And he's like got a chip on his shoulder about it.
When he was a kid, I think he probably punched him all around the... Remember he would say he wants to take Trump in the back, in the schoolyard or something?
First of all, and then the media, right?
Oh, wow, this young, vivacious, tough guy, look at Biden.
Imagine if Trump said something like that.
But can you actually, I don't... The problem is... Oh, come on.
He would fall down throwing a punch.
He wouldn't have to punch him.
You just gotta, like, stand away.
And he'd fall, he'd go boom, and he'd fall down.
You gotta tell them where you are.
Over here, Joe, right?
Joe, Joe, Joe!
No, no, no, you're fighting me.
No, not that lady.
No, me!
Joe, will you stop smelling her hair?
Come on!
Geez, what is this smelling hair stuff?
Have you ever figured that out, why he smells hair?
I don't want to get into the way he looks at the little girl.
It's disturbing.
It's funny, right?
The smelling hair thing, I don't get what that is.
I don't know, Mayor, but you're right.
It's got to be a psychological... I don't know.
I never once thought... He put his nose in the hair.
Everyone has their fetishes, Mayor.
I never heard of hair.
I gotta tell you, I'm sorry.
That's fair.
I never heard of hair.
Do you think he smells Dr. Jill Biden's hair or she's too old for him?
Old.
I don't want to get into that.
So, of course, John Castamatidis wants to buy CNN.
We're all in favor of that.
Oh, now that would be big.
Would that be big?
That would be big for journalism, Mayor.
Change the name of the Communist News Network.
What does the C stand for anyway?
Remember they used to say Clinton.
That used to be the Clinton News Network in the 1990s.
Okay, that's the Communist News Network, but what does the C stand for?
Oh, really, what does it mean?
Cable.
Oh, Cable News Network.
Cable News Network, yeah, yeah.
I thought you were asking...
That's not much of a name.
Cable.
Oh, at the time, I think it was.
Cable was the name of the lieutenant in South Pacific.
For a show?
Yeah.
Cable.
Well, right when CNN came out, and you know this.
What show?
South Pacific.
Oh, that's the name of it.
Rodgers and Hammerstein play South Pacific.
He was one of the secondary characters.
I've learned a lot from Mayer about theater and culture.
He sang a great song about prejudice.
And it was a song.
It was about you've got to be carefully taught from year to year.
He kind of describes how prejudice develops because he falls in love with a native girl.
And there's a big right.
And this is in the 1940s.
Yeah.
And there's a big reaction in the Navy, I think, to it.
Like the Navy is going to give him a really hard time.
Yeah.
And I think his father Was a high-ranking officer in the Navy.
I may have that wrong, I'm not sure.
But then he sings this song about prejudice and it's actually quite good.
That's interesting, Mayor.
Rogers and Hammerstein wrote great musicals.
Rogers wrote the music and Hammerstein wrote the lyrics.
But the lyrics are quite poetic and very, very insightful.
Mayor, going back to CNN, I believe when CNN first came out, the reason why it's called Cable News Network is because they were the first news channel in history to play news 24-7.
That's why it's called Cable News Network.
Oh, okay.
I think in the 80s or whatever.
We have that on New York 1 in New York.
Is New York 1 live all night?
I don't remember.
I'm not sure.
Or does it do repeats?
I'm guessing New York 1 was a broadcast station in New York, right?
Was it affiliated to any of the... Fox and Newsmax.
Yes, that's a good point.
Fox, it was a big deal when they started a live midnight show.
Now with Trace Gallagher, I think it was Martha McCallum previously, but Fox goes live at midnight to 1 a.m.
and of course on the West Coast that's 9 to 10 p.m.
They've, they've felt it's, it's, there's enough of an audience to go live out of their LA studios.
And then at one o'clock, they start to replay the evening schedule, right?
Yes, that's right.
It used to be either Hannity or Tucker, right?
So yeah, exactly.
So I think probably Jesse, well, maybe the seven o'clock to the 11 o'clock shows, right?
Right.
They always end up, or 10 o'clock shows.
The five, which is being played before Fox and Friends first.
That's right, Fox and Friends first, 4am I believe.
So from 1 to 3 they'll play Hannity, probably Hannity, Ingram, and The Five.
I don't remember exactly.
I'm not watching usually at that hour.
And of course on the West Coast though.
Gutfeld too, they replay Gutfeld.
Right, Gutfeld's a good show.
They replay Gutfeld.
Gutfeld, that's right.
So, there's a new designated liar for the Democrat party now that Schiff wants to run for the Senate.
And that's Jamie Raskin, who mentioned me the other day.
Mayor, he's the frontrunner.
He's the frontrunner right now for the Democrat primary.
I'm shocked as well.
Not really, not in California.
You mean a congenital liar, Adam Schiff?
I've got direct evidence of Trump colluding with the Russians, which he never produced.
It's crazy.
Nobody cares.
The problem is this will continue to go on until somebody is held accountable.
Like, for example, people have asked me, why won't they do the same thing in the next election?
Whether we're talking about covering up critical information or messing around with the ballots.
I don't know why they wouldn't do it.
They've gotten away with it completely.
I mean, that that was the problem with the Durham report.
It laid out all kinds of criminality and not a single person even got fined.
That's right.
And of course, I want to catch everyone up who's tuning in.
We started this evening.
We had a special start time, 730.
But of course, we wanted to be here at eight and we'll be on for another 15 minutes.
We're ending a little early tonight.
The mayor's being awarded the Mother Teresa Award, among other things.
Gave a special blessing to both of my children when they were big.
Well, Caroline was a baby and Andrew, Andrew was about seven.
What an incredible, incredible thing.
Yeah.
Yeah.
What a, what a wonderful woman.
And you really, you really felt like you were blessed, like you were blessed.
You were, you were blessed just meeting her.
I don't care who you are.
You've done, you've done something right.
I'll get it wrong about something.
I should call Stephen Nelson and Josh Christensen and tell them Shokin actually wasn't fired in March.
He was actually fired in February.
And they kept it quiet for about three weeks so that Poroshenko and Biden could agree on his successor.
People don't know this.
They should.
It's in the hard drive and I've published it on my podcast.
Biden not only got Shokin fired, the prosecutor fired, he approved the new prosecutor.
And there's an actual tape recording of his conversation with Poroshenko approving the new prosecutor.
The new prosecutor wasn't even a lawyer.
His name was Lutsenko.
And it was under Lutsenko That the Burisma case was fixed.
A lot of people, when they listen to Biden say that stuff about, I told him, if he wants his billion dollars, he's got to get rid of the prosecutor.
And he did.
They think he did it to save his son, who was involved in that investigation.
He was involved in the investigation.
He actually did it.
And that's what this memo kind of helps to really solidify.
He actually did it to save the company Burisma, because if he didn't intervene with Poroshenko, the president, Poroshenko was going to seize the company from Zlochevsky, tough names, I know, and take it for himself.
Poroshenko was a massive crook and a good friend of Joe's.
Did you know that Joe spent three of the last four days as vice president?
In Ukraine?
Ukraine. That would have been January 15th, 16th, 17th, 18th of 2017. Instead of being in his office
supervising his stealing of the classified information, he must have had other people
do the stealing for him, and he was off there solidifying his income flow from the organized
criminals and crooks in Ukraine.
He made 14 trips to Ukraine.
But they have the date wrong because they didn't pay attention to the hard drive the way I did that I gave to them.
Gee, I wonder why.
I bet Miranda knows.
I bet Miranda really studied that hard drive.
Got a lot out of it.
Well, Mayor, how about we take a couple calls here?
Do you have... I don't want to interrupt if you're about to get into another important point.
No, no, no.
I already covered China and Cuba, which, you know, What are the chances that China invades Taiwan before Biden leaves?
High.
Right?
Because they don't know what they're going to get.
I mean, if they get Trump, they're sure not going to do it.
Or even if they get another Republican, I guess they could get another They could get another weak, weak-kneed Democrat.
May I?
They're gonna wait.
They're gonna wait, and thinking that Biden has a good shot at a second term, if they do it right before Biden's first term ends, I think that would, I think people would wake up, right, and realize this isn't, this is a serious matter, and they would rush to Trump.
I do think an actual war in the South Pacific by China Uh, would wake people up.
You know, people in the middle, not everyone.
There's somebody that called me the other day about this China thing.
Yeah.
And says, do you think that this is a game that's being played with Biden?
And then they'll recognize that China did it and Biden will tell them to get out.
And they'll get out.
Biden will get the credit.
I mean... That's what's going on.
There are a lot of very powerful forces.
that are behind keeping Trump out.
You got to realize that from the effort that they put into trying to destroy him.
I mean, they've committed crime after crime after crime.
They put millions of dollars into it.
But the biggest force is China.
And a lot of these people that are against Trump are very partial to China.
Because China owns it.
You know what this means?
Money.
Follow the money.
All right, well we're gonna take our first call.
Joe, if you can turn down the show in the background.
It's funny I say that because I remember hearing that from the radio guys growing up when they'd take call-ins.
If you can turn the show off in the background so we can hear you.
We got Joe in Brookhaven.
Joe, you're on with the mayor.
Hello, Mr. Mayor.
Hello, Mr. Mayor.
Is Joe speaking?
Give me a headset.
Give me a headset I think I got it.
Give him the space.
Give the wire.
Hello, Joe.
I'm here.
All right.
Oh, there you are.
I gotcha.
Okay, what's going on, Joe?
Good to talk to you.
Hey, God bless.
What a great show, that's all I can say.
I gotta subscribe to that.
Last time we talked and I subscribed the next day to whatever you call that, the podcast?
Yes.
That is the most wonderful thing.
I'll tell you, I get updates.
I love it because I get these updates that normally I'm at work and all of a sudden I'm here.
Good.
And it's so informative.
I absolutely love it.
And I want to plug one other thing.
Congratulations, you're getting the Mother Teresa Award.
Thank you.
Something tonight.
That's amazing.
But I want to say you guys show a thing in between segments, like with the three skyscrapers.
Yeah.
Right.
You're familiar.
Do you remember in 1956 on Good Friday, they lit up the buildings in Manhattan.
Are you familiar?
Have you ever seen that?
No.
Good Friday, 1956.
You can google it because you hear my parents got married, that's why.
It's so beautiful with the crosses.
They did it, they'll never do it.
Have you ever seen that?
No, do you have a picture of it you can send me?
Yeah, you can google it.
Just google 1966 Friday skyscrapers.
I will.
1966 or 56?
56.
56.
You remember?
You're too young to remember.
56. 56. You remember? You're too young to remember.
Your parents got married in 56.
1956.
Google it.
You guys should put that up for the three skyscrapers.
We will!
It's so beautiful.
I lost you.
You lost me?
I got you, though.
I got you.
I got you now.
Yeah.
I got you now.
I got you, Joe.
Don't worry.
Were you able to put, were you able to, so I want to, my wife says she, she will not,
she will not vote for any, she said this today.
She came in.
She said, did you know the answer?
I said, yes.
I'm watching her.
I will not vote for any other Republican but Trump.
I'm going to write him in.
I don't care.
They should all get behind him.
There's no reason why he can't be on the ballot.
First of all, I'm telling you, they're not going to conclude the Don thing until after the election, given the complexity and the problems with both of the indictments so far.
So I'm going to Google this.
1956.
1950.
I'm gonna google this, 1956.
1950, what should I put down? 1956.
Lighting.
I want you to see it.
Hopefully you can get it up.
Lighting.
New York skyscrapers.
New York buildings with crosses, right?
We're going to see what we can come up with here.
With crosses.
Gosh, we should really do that now.
We're gonna see what we can come up with here.
With crosses.
Gosh, we should really do that now.
We could use it.
Let's see.
Oh, there it is!
On Good Friday years ago, NYC lit up.
Okay, hold it.
Let me get your picture.
Mayor, while you're doing that, we thank you for calling, Joe.
Thank you, Joe.
Thank you very much.
We're gonna look that up for you.
Now, here you go.
Here it is.
We want to put it up there it is. Look how pretty that is.
Yeah, Mayor. Yeah, it was for uh, it was for Good Friday during Easter, Mayor. You put it up
for everybody. That's right. That's right.
Look at that. Well, unfortunately, unfortunately, of course, many of us realize recently they lit
up the Empire State Building. Uh, they lit up the Empire State Building. Uh,
They celebrated when they passed some sort of abortion up near birth.
So I don't know, Mayor, if we'll see this anytime soon.
Seven, eight and nine month murders.
Yeah.
So I don't know if we'll see crosses anytime soon, judging.
You know, it almost looks like the like the Empire State Building is the same height as the Chrysler Building.
And that's not true.
That's not that's not correct.
Hmm.
Empire State Building is taller than the Chrysler Building.
All of them then eventually got dwarfed with the World Trade Center, right?
That's right.
Of course, this was.
We're going to put a picture up here in a minute.
Those three buildings are still there.
Every time you see the Empire State Building, you think of King Kong, right?
Yeah, I think that's true.
So we put the picture right up on the screen now.
People are watching it?
They can see it?
Yeah.
Well, thank you, Joe.
That really is quite an impressive picture.
I wonder if you could get them to do it again.
You doubt it, right?
Yes, sir.
That's a shame, isn't it?
As long as we have liberal leaders in this state, we will never get religion on the forefront, unfortunately.
That's a Republican thing.
Wow.
Democrats are atheists.
Well, that comes from the communist influence on the party.
That was one of Marx's biggest targets was God.
God and parents.
This whole underlying infiltration of the schools is clearly Marxism.
The teachers' union has been, for quite some time, very much influenced by Marxism.
Well, Mayor, another busy, busy news week.
To remind our audience, we're closing down a half hour early tonight, but we started a half hour early, so if you joined us at 8, after we close out here, go back and watch the first half hour.
You'll get some very, very important context and information in relation to the corrupt indictment by the Biden administration of President Trump.
So we just have a couple minutes.
Mayor, so we want to hear your closing thoughts on another, another busy Newsweek going into the weekend.
What message do you have to the American people?
I can't help but think that a lot of the timing of this really unnecessary, embarrassing, and extremely harmful indictment, not so much for President Trump, but another nail in the coffin of American justice, One of the really sad things about it is this country was an example to countries all around the world on how to develop a fair and impartial justice system, and we can't.
I mean, A guy like, like, Jack, what's his name?
Smith says something like this, people laugh at him.
We have one set of laws in America, and they apply to everyone.
It's just the opposite, isn't it?
It's been that way, at least since the Clintons, hasn't it?
And you realize how damaging that is?
What that's taken away from us.
I mean, the equal application of the law, or at least a good faith attempt to equally apply the law, is the hallmark of a true government of laws, and not men.
Which is what we were developed as, and what has made us the, as Ronald Reagan used to say, the shining city on the hill.
That's so shiny now, huh?
Nobody's looking at us and saying, wow, we're going to model our justice system after you going after, you know, America's, America's now like the rest of those banana republics and communist and former Nazi and fascist.
Uh, they imprisoned their opposition on Trump up charges, excused upon.
Well, We have the ability in this country to change that, which is what makes it such a great country.
And we're going to do that.
We're going to stick together in order to do that.
And that's why I take Joe's advice and go to RudyGiulianiCS.com and subscribe and subscribe on Twitter.
So you get our messages and you can communicate with us.
And we'll be back on Monday, and I'll be on with Dr. Maria at 10 o'clock on Sunday with Uncovering the Truth, which is a really, really exciting show.
Enjoy doing it very much.
And we get a great, great group of questions, always.
Great contribution on the subjects that we talk about.
And I'm sure we'll be talking about whatever new developments there are, either in the Biden expanding criminal probe.
You know, it's a little, I got an unfair advantage on that one.
I could write out a script of what's going to be revealed the next week and the week after and the week after.
I got the script, you know, two rooms away.
Well, you have a good weekend.
Pray for our country.
And also, thank God you are an American, and we have this ability to create our future, which is what we've got to do together.
God bless you.
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