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May 5, 2023 - Rudy Giuliani

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Mayor Giuliani with Kari Lake & Steve Bannon | April 25th 2023 | Ep 324

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	Hello and welcome to a live with the mayor.
	We're all live with the mayor and tonight we have a very special guest.
	I think probably the big star of the last election.
	She emerged as a national figure, not just as a major candidate in Arizona.
	We probably get excluded right now on some social network.
	You know when they exclude you, they go like, they put somebody up and he says, you are now off the station and you will be put on a train and we are going to take you to the censorship land.
	So now I'm going to say something and one of those guys is going to come out.
	I mean, she won the election.
	That's true.
	So, okay.
	But, you know, this is a good time for her to regroup and help the president, which she's doing tremendously.
	Help the party, which she's doing tremendously.
	And if she doesn't run again, you'll see a very old man, who's supposed to be really tough, cry.
	I'll cry if you don't run again.
	You better run again.
	Oh my gosh.
	We're going to do what we can to help our country.
	I'm going to be, I'm going to be honest.
	You're a patriot.
	You're a patriot.
	I remember, I remember before you were, when you were, you know.
	Running?
	No, no.
	When you were on TV and all.
	Yeah.
	And, and then first I would start getting reports about Arizona.
	Yeah.
	I mean, first of all, you were fabulous on TV.
	Thank you.
	I mean, you, you gave up being a major star.
	To run.
	And sure, our people love you, but you know, like me, the other side now despises you.
	Isn't that sad?
	You're the nicest person.
	You're the devil.
	Much like Trump, I was friends with a lot of those people.
	I mean, I was just looking at Trump's new book, Letters to Trump.
	Show it to them.
	I will.
	Number one.
	It's huge!
	Number one!
	It's huge!
	The book is huge!
	And there's a lot of people who were friends with him before things were political.
	They loved him.
	And I felt the same way.
	I loved everybody that I was around.
	I found good qualities in every human being.
	And then I quit my job because I can no longer lend my heart,
	my soul, my voice, my mind to the fake news.
	I don't want to do it anymore.
	I don't want the seven figure contract.
	I don't want the money.
	Just let me be free.
	I don't want it.
	How unusual is that though?
	It's pretty unusual.
	Although hopefully it becomes more.
	The second feeling, a lot of people feel the first, oh, I can't stand it.
	But then, you know, they get stuck with the, Right.
	A lot of the, what we're seeing now, a lot of these, I mean, I know some of these people.
	They want their house in the Hamptons.
	They want their house in the city.
	They want their vacation home.
	How about, how about the people that work with me on the election front?
	Yeah.
	Completely enthusiastic and knew the election was going.
	And then they testified to Fox that they didn't believe the election.
	I hate that.
	I hate that so much.
	But they, you know, it's millions of dollars today.
	And one, this one guy who got fired didn't do that.
	Well, we all know.
	I mean, let's look at the facts.
	Can we talk about anything, or are we going to get canceled?
	Who cares?
	Good.
	We've got enough other ones.
	We've got enough other ones, and our main one is Twitter.
	I used to say, 81 million votes for Joe Biden.
	Don't insult my intelligence, OK?
	Don't insult it.
	A basement guy, he never came out and campaigned.
	He won, I think, like 16% of the counties.
	That's impossible, guys.
	Listen.
	If he won, I'd be the first to say, wow, okay, dang, I misread it.
	Don't insult our intelligence.
	And if you believe that this guy who hid in his basement, who can't even walk down to the bathroom and make it in time, won, I worry about your intelligence, and I worry about the fact that the fake news media has sent these, like, worms into your brain.
	And that's what's happening.
	They're using you, they're using your children, and they're brainwashing you into a bunch of lies.
	Joe Biden didn't win.
	I'm not saying that because I love President Trump.
	I do.
	I think President Trump is one of the greatest fighters of our time.
	I'm saying this because I love America.
	And Joe Biden lost.
	We all know it.
	Even the left knows it.
	The guy is incompetent and he is owned by our enemies.
	And I think it's really obvious right now as he marches us toward World War Three, as he destroys our economy.
	And just wait, you might you might be OK with all of that.
	Wait until your retirement fund dries up.
	Wait until the U.S.
	dollar is worthless.
	And then maybe you're going to say, OK, we were wrong.
	Yeah, I hope it's not too late, and it won't be too late if we win in 24, which is why 24, which is why 24 is, and it's unfortunate that every election we kind of cry wolf, not we, you and I, but everybody did, right?
	This is the most important election, most important.
	Well, I thought the last one was.
	Yeah, it was, actually.
	Just think, just think of one fact.
	The people in Ukraine, whatever you think of the world, will be alive now if that election hadn't been stolen.
	If Trump were in the White House, Is there anybody that doubts that Putin would invade?
	Of course he would.
	I think Putin would almost tell you that.
	That he wouldn't have invaded.
	He got Biden.
	He saw Biden do what he did in Afghanistan, cut and run.
	And then he tested him for three months and got him to say, oh, I won't put any troops in.
	I won't put any troops in.
	Oh, my God, I won't put any.
	Yeah.
	So he realized it was a no, no, no, no problem situation.
	Biden's weak.
	Biden is weak.
	He could go in.
	He was assured there'd be no intervention.
	He probably figured out from what Obama did that they'll verbally support Ukraine.
	They'll talk about locks of arms, but they'll give the arms like five weeks late.
	And they'll give them cash.
	And who knows what's happening in that cash?
	I mean, the country is the most crooked country in the world.
	Can I just say we know what's happening?
	I mean, we already know that, and hopefully you know that at home, and I'm hoping that your listeners know this, that Zelensky embezzled $400 million.
	We've sent $170 billion.
	To fight a war to protect the borders of Ukraine, where we're not sending any money to our own southern border, where we have the drug cartels, the CCP in control, where we have the fentanyl pouring in.
	Arizona's become a pipeline for fentanyl.
	Yeah.
	I mean, you worked in New York.
	I mean, you saved this man, saved New York City.
	I'll tell you what, honest to goodness, we need you to run for Are you up for it?
	I'm probably up for it.
	I used to hang out there when I was in my 20s with my husband.
	It was safe.
	I never once feared.
	I love my country.
	I'm a New Yorker all my life.
	I love my city.
	It's the reason I did it.
	God willing, I had great people.
	We had great, more success than I ever thought we would have.
	And then when Bloomberg took over, although we have different political philosophies, we have the same view on law and order, and he hired a superior police commissioner, Ray Kelly.
	And so we had 20 golden years.
	We had 18 of those years we were the safest large city in America.
	Can you imagine New York City that had been the crime capital when I came in within three years turns into the safest large city in America and remains that way for 18 years.
	We didn't have a riot for 22 years.
	The last riot we had, we had a Democratic mayor.
	The next riot we had, 22 years later, we had a Democratic mayor.
	So you don't want a riot, don't have a Democratic mayor.
	Can you take us back to the so-called Summer of Love, where I was horrified as I'm a news anchor at the time, watching what's happening in New York.
	Stores are being looted, cop cars are being set on fire.
	You were watching that.
	Watching it.
	What were you thinking?
	What would you have done?
	First of all, what I would have done never would have happened.
	First guy would have been arrested.
	So I inherited a city that was rioting regularly and had two major riots, a pogrom in which they went out into the streets and for five days found Jewish people to beat up and kill.
	And that pogrom was really run by Al Sharpton and Dinkins let him run it.
	And then we had it.
	We had one in Washington Heights for four days where there was a totally false narrative about the killing of a drug dealer who was made into an altar.
	The first picture of the next day in the news in the post is he was an altar boy.
	He was an altar boy, had been arrested at work, although he had beaten the hell out of his mother, almost killed his sister and was and was the number three guy in a crack gang.
	And it took four days for the police department to get out the tape that he was trying to kill the cop with a knife.
	And we had a riot there.
	So when I became mayor, I gave a speech about riots.
	I said, there aren't too many riots in my city because we have a different approach.
	And I just want to warn you, in the old days, we used to have a cooling off period.
	So Dinkins and the left wingers felt if a guy got a big riot, you know, a bunch of people like Antifa or Black Lives Matter and they throw a rock.
	Oh, if I arrest them for the rock, I'll create the riot.
	Oh, they spit in a cop's face.
	Oh, forget that.
	Oh, they broke a window.
	Oh, forget that.
	Now you see what happens, right?
	Yeah.
	So they keep watching this.
	And by the time it gets to the point where they're going to intervene, they got a big lead.
	My rule, you can protest all you want.
	You break a law, you get arrested.
	I love it.
	And you go to jail.
	And I'm not even going to take you in for bail.
	I'm going to put you right on Rikers Island.
	Because I don't have time to take you for bail.
	I got a riot to deal with.
	So you'll be sleeping in Rikers Island.
	Good.
	Amen.
	And you want to test me?
	Have a riot.
	All I had to do was say that.
	I never had a riot.
	Isn't that amazing?
	You show strength and you show that.
	And when I was running for governor of Arizona, I mentioned you all the time, you probably don't know this, but our homeless policy, we were one of the only governors who had a homeless policy.
	You would think that the people in California, Washington state running for office would have a homeless policy.
	They didn't.
	But I had a homeless policy to stop this chronic street homelessness because I didn't want Arizona to become California.
	To become San Francisco, to become Washington.
	And I said, we're going to take what Rudy Giuliani, the greatest mayor our country has ever seen, has done.
	Yes, it's one of the chairs.
	We have a studio audience.
	And it's called the broken windows policy.
	Yeah, exactly.
	I mean, I've got it from, you know, I always tell the liberal intellectual, Jackasses.
	That you should adopt.
	I like how you pulled intellectual and then jackasses in the same sentence.
	A little bit of a compliment and then the truth.
	I used to tell them, you should accept the broken window theory.
	They say, well, I said it was written by a professor from Harvard.
	Harvard.
	In 1979, Professor James Q. Wilson.
	Doesn't come from me.
	So don't reject it.
	It's not from stupid, dumb me.
	It comes from a professor from Harvard!
	You know what?
	I'm going to explain it from a mother's point of view.
	I'm a mom.
	I have two kids.
	I came up from a family of nine.
	And when you do something stupid and you screw up at home as a child and your parents let you get away with it, guess what?
	You screw up again.
	You pull the same stuff again.
	When you do something wrong and your mom slaps your hands or smacks you a little bit, you go, whoa, I can't get away with that anymore.
	That's what the broken window policy is.
	And we have to get back to that.
	Carrie?
	We are allowing this outrageous lawlessness.
	Well, I've been a victim.
	I'm a victim and I turned out OK.
	If my mother only hit my hand like that, I'd have been really happy.
	She'd whack the hell out of me.
	But you wouldn't have turned out as good.
	And my father was a boxer.
	So all my father had to do is look at me and like start to put his fist like this and I would go.
	But honestly, my parents were not, they didn't, they didn't do a lot of spanking.
	I got spanked twice in my life.
	I was threatened with it and that was enough.
	That was enough.
	The fear of what your parents would do.
	If I got in trouble at school, I was more afraid of going home.
	What's going to happen to me at home?
	Not what the teacher's going to do.
	What are my parents going to do?
	Even though my parents never exhibited violence in the home.
	No, no.
	My father occasionally, my mother used to want my father to spank me.
	And because my father was a boxer, he had this very strict rule that you don't use your fists because he was taught that if you use your fists, they're deadly weapons if you're a boxer.
	And particularly back in the Depression era, that was a big thing.
	He also was a man who was also taught never fight with somebody smaller than you, never be a bully, and God forbid you touch a woman.
	My father would tell me draconian things like, if I touched a woman, it would be a sure indication I wasn't a man.
	There'd be nothing, nothing that would separate the two of us.
	I could do anything.
	He was there with me.
	If I hit a woman, he doesn't want to know me anymore.
	Yeah, he would.
	He would.
	He would drill it into my head.
	But he was because he was a boxer and he could really hurt people.
	His father trained him to be like almost obsessive about it.
	Yeah.
	But those are great lessons.
	That's why you need a father.
	And you need a father.
	And the communists don't want a father.
	Black Lives Matter.
	Can you imagine the Black Lives Matter not wanting a father where the black community, the most important thing they need are more nuclear families?
	Well, they destroyed the family.
	And this goes beyond Black Lives Matter.
	This goes back into the early 90s when they decided to start shipping our our factories overseas with NAFTA.
	NAFTA was the biggest killer of our families and the biggest destruction to our children
	that we've ever seen.
	They shipped the jobs overseas and they made it where a company could be lucrative to create
	products here in America.
	And when they did that, they took away the pride that a man has in being able to provide
	for his family.
	I'm a mother to a boy and I'm worried about the boys out there.
	How old is he?
	He's 18.
	He's amazing.
	And if he's watching tonight, I love you, Leo.
	But I'm worried about our boys.
	Our girls are fine.
	The girls are fine.
	We have done so much to beat down our boys.
	Tell them not to be mad.
	Oh, sure.
	I started seeing that like 15, 20 years ago.
	They get further ahead if they come out and say, I'm a girl now, which is insane.
	We need strong men.
	Our country's only as strong as our men.
	And when they started pushing this globalist agenda, which was about tearing down manufacturing, sending it overseas, destroying America, they took those strong men who were working in factories.
	Those were good jobs.
	And used skills.
	100%.
	I mean, you are so smart.
	But what happens when a man feels like he has, when he's lost his job and he can't provide?
	I mean, certain men can withstand it, right?
	They have very strong ego.
	Most men and most women aren't supermen and superwomen.
	They're normal.
	And if you beat them down, they lose morale.
	They lose self-respect.
	At the same time, drugs are being pushed into our country.
	The crack epidemic.
	We can't expect the majority of our people to be like exceptional heroes.
	This is why President Trump is the man for the moment.
	He came into office.
	It used to be the Democrats cared about the middle class.
	Now they could give a shit.
	They could give a damn about the middle class.
	President Trump wants to protect the middle class.
	It's the President Trump part that take you off.
	Oh, that's right.
	And here's the deal for those of us.
	And I mean, I'm doing well.
	I'm living off my savings and I'm happy to do that because I want to save our country.
	But those people who are doing really well when the middle class is lifted up and is prospering, we all prosper.
	When we let our middle class die, the whole country dies.
	Do you agree with that or not?
	100%.
	You know, Donald Trump won in 2016 because he appealed to a group of people.
	Some knew it, some didn't even know it until he came along.
	That few years felt left out.
	The middle class.
	They felt like No one cares.
	Everybody has like a lobbyist.
	Everybody's got, in New York we say, if you have like an edge, you have a rabbi.
	Everybody's got a rabbi.
	We had a lobbyist.
	His name was Donald Trump.
	He was working for We The People.
	I have to ask, Carrie.
	I have a good friend back there and he asked me a question I can't answer.
	I'm trying to answer it and we spent a lot of time talking about it today.
	How Are we going to be sure in 2024?
	Let's just stick with Arizona, because this lady was very involved from the very beginning in trying to get justice in in Arizona when it wasn't popular.
	And a lot of people in our party were not there.
	But in any event, how?
	How do we keep Arizona straight in 24 so we don't get a repetition of 20?
	2020 and 2022.
	First of all, and I'm not here just to, I don't, I'm not here just to give you a compliment, but this man cared more about our elections than almost anybody I know.
	He came to Arizona.
	It was January or December.
	Oh no, it was in December.
	It was in December of 2020.
	Right.
	And he brought forth evidence that showed our elections were fraudulent.
	And I remember watching that and I had, at that point I'd walked away from my job and I was shocked the media wouldn't cover it.
	The media would not cover the biggest story, the biggest crime we've ever seen, the stolen election.
	And I talked about it.
	I decided to walk away from my job during that because it wasn't just COVID that made me as a 30 year journalist, broadcast journalist, probably the highest paid person in Arizona in TV.
	Not that that matters, but I was a trustworthy voice in Arizona.
	I said, I'm going to walk away because I don't like the narrative that we're pushing with COVID.
	And I certainly don't like that our election was just rigged and we refuse to talk about it.
	And I remember you coming to Arizona and I said, why is the media not covering this?
	And it was shocking.
	So I pushed when I got into politics.
	I never decided to quit my job and get into politics.
	The people said, now that you've quit your job, will you consider getting into politics?
	To which I thought, wow, they must hate me because I just got out of the crooked news and they want me to get into the swamp.
	I don't think so.
	And then I thought about it and I thought about what our founding fathers envisioned, which was citizen politicians You and me stepping forward and getting involved in politics, not because we want long political careers.
	I don't.
	As a matter of fact, I would love nothing more than to get on with my life, but we have to stand up and fight right now.
	So I got involved in politics and I started talking about what happened in the 2020 election.
	It wasn't my number one issue.
	I talked a whole lot about our broken border plan and we need to make sure that we're protecting our citizens with our border.
	But we can't ignore our elections.
	If we're not if we're not able to get the people we vote for into office, how do we get a secure border?
	100 percent.
	How do we get curriculum that actually educates our kids?
	And I was not afraid to talk about it.
	And then they called me an election denier.
	And I said, I don't care.
	Call me whatever you want.
	But we have to address this.
	I would.
	I knew about you before.
	Always had a very high opinion of you.
	And then all of a sudden and I heard you a few times, all of a sudden I'm reading these things that you're You're you're an election denier.
	You're an election denier.
	I thought was a compliment.
	I thought that you're a radical.
	It's a radical right wing.
	Well, I mean, I was a radical right wing.
	I used to be the moderate Republican.
	Yeah, I'm a radical right wing.
	I'm involved.
	I'm involved with QAnon.
	The only thing I know about Q are Q-tips.
	So I thought.
	I thought maybe they thought I was abusing Q-tips.
	They've stopped talking about that, I've noticed.
	Yeah, well, all five members, you know, went off to somewhere or other.
	Well, they get their drumbeat of their marching orders of what the left-wing media, and I hate to say left-wing because it's actually, we found out that, you know, with Fox News firing Tucker and Dan Bongino that they're no longer America First.
	And look, I'm not trying to disparage Fox.
	If you're going to be the establishment rhino news outlet, fine.
	You own the company.
	But MAGA, which is Make America Great Again, we want true American supporters to be on the network.
	Otherwise, we don't want to watch.
	You know, I helped to put Fox on On the map.
	On the map in New York.
	Because when they first were established, when Roger Ailes first established them, Turner Broadcasting wouldn't put them on New York cable.
	Really?
	So Roger was my first political campaign manager and very close friend.
	He's probably rolling over in his grave right now.
	Could we use him now?
	Wow.
	And Rush.
	The two of them were like this.
	The two of them together, I think the two of them together We win this time.
	And I would convince Roger to get the hell out of television and go work with Steve Bannon and run the campaign.
	Steve Bannon?
	That's another thing.
	Yeah, don't tell Steve Bannon.
	Oh my gosh.
	You know, a lot of people don't like Steve Bannon for good reason.
	I mean, he's a real pain in the ass.
	But I gotta tell you, I gotta tell you, and I'm glad he's not here, because I don't want him to get a big head.
	Oh, man.
	If Steve Bannon were to show up, I mean, what would happen to your ratings?
	What would happen to my ratings?
	Listen, I get thrown off every network.
	No, they go through the sky.
	The guy is the biggest thing.
	Oh, man.
	Your building will let anybody in.
	Yeah.
	Oh, my gosh.
	How are you, Steve?
	I love you Steve. I love you. I'm specifically sent here by management to tone this thing down. The HOA, HOA sent it.
	This is pretty much a Trump building.
	This is so cool.
	We are in a small, smallish building in Palm Beach.
	You know who lives right below us?
	Who?
	Winston Churchill's grandson.
	Oh, good.
	OK.
	Thank God I was not a liberal.
	We used to have we used to have great conversations.
	And Winston Churchill's grandson turned into quite a conservative.
	Good.
	Well, all of a sudden, Winston really was on and off when he got older, when he got older.
	Are we taking a short break so we can rearrange?
	We're going to sort out.
	We're going to sort out how Steve Bannon got let in the building.
	Yeah.
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	I don't think we gotta... I don't see Steve.
	We gotta get Steve in a little more.
	Squeeze in.
	Back it up a little bit.
	Come on, act like you're family.
	Steve.
	There you go.
	A little lower.
	Back it up a little bit.
	Here we add our special guest tag here.
	Oh, I love it.
	Alrighty, we'll back this up.
	This is the most fun.
	He is the father.
	He's the father.
	I would say.
	No, he's the father of the MAGA movement.
	Truly.
	He really is.
	And there's and we're back on.
	Welcome back.
	And we have, as you know, Steve Bannon.
	And I'm just going to be serious for one minute, then I'm going to stop.
	This man knows the Trump movement better than anyone, better than Trump, better than me, better than anyone.
	A lot of people know it.
	A lot of people are helpful, but he's just got it in his head.
	He's been working on it for, I think, his lifetime.
	In his DNA.
	Yeah.
	And he knows the disaffection, which is a very legitimate disaffection for many reasons, not just one, that created the need for a Donald Trump and how Donald Trump Fill that.
	And the other amazing thing about Donald Trump, how a New York billionaire Can be the champion of the common man and woman.
	It's amazing.
	That is absolutely amazing.
	Tonight, I want to announce to the nation my new agent, Rudy Giuliani.
	All sponsorships.
	He speaks the truth.
	That's the truth.
	How did you get that?
	Because you didn't.
	Were you born in a working class family?
	That's how you get it.
	My five kids.
	That's why you get it.
	And you were born in a working class.
	I was working class family, one Democrat, one Republican, both parents very interested, not involved, but very interested in politics.
	And I was born in a big, large family where it was like, if you don't have a work ethic, good luck.
	All of us probably have.
	But how did we get a Donald Trump born?
	I wouldn't I don't want to say with a silver spoon in his mouth, because that sounds like an insult.
	I know he's been a hardworking.
	How did we get him?
	What is the DNA of Donald Trump?
	Divine Providence.
	Providential.
	Rudy, Rudy, Rudy was there.
	I know we got, we got Ambassador, we got some, some of the guys are with us in 16.
	I wish we could see the crowd here, by the way.
	This, this, this was, we were the gang that couldn't shoot straight.
	Right?
	I mean, we had a candidate, we had a message, and we had a plane.
	That was it?
	That was it.
	That was it.
	Did you know you were going to be successful?
	Were you like, Scott?
	When on the 13th, when they had that big article in the New York Times, it was on a Saturday morning, where they said Trump is 18 points down, everybody's leaving.
	It was a Maggie Heyman special, right?
	I mean, it had every quote in the world.
	Yeah, they're saying Hillary's going to win 98% chance.
	So some donors said, you know, go, go talk to Trump.
	You got to take the campaign.
	I've never been a campaign officer in my life.
	And I said, with 100% metaphysical certitude, you're going to win this.
	If you just stick to a couple of basic things that your message, right?
	Build the wall.
	You know, about the economy, bringing jobs back, anti-CCP, its elites versus the population.
	And he's a natural.
	I mean, he's a guy from Queens.
	At the end of the day, he's a guy from Queens.
	And Queens is the great melting pot.
	But I believe that his ability, and I've seen him in action, I know you have, to talk to anyone.
	He can talk to the guys in the black tie, billionaires, to the construction workers who are showing up at 5 a.m.
	and building his building.
	And he's probably more comfortable with the construction workers and the working class.
	Because they're real.
	He's actually comfortable with anybody that's real.
	He'll be comfortable with a multi-billionaire or a king.
	We saw this in some of the disaffection to Ron DeSantis, where you see these congressmen saying, hey, Trump's calling me, you know, something's wrong.
	The guy that fell off, Stuby, who fell off the roof, Trump called him right away.
	He said he hasn't gotten a call from DeSantis in five years.
	Trump's got the personal touch, but here's the thing that's the most amazing.
	It's just not the one-on-one personality.
	He's got a unique ability to connect to the common man in a mass communication.
	The speeches, the rallies.
	The rallies were magic!
	I've been doing this all my life.
	I've never seen crowds like this.
	And this was early on, in 15, early in 15.
	I knew, nine, ten months before the election, he's drawing crowds that you only draw in the last three weeks.
	Yes.
	You know, unless the Beatles came back all the time.
	And he had he had he had he's a year before he had election eve enthusiasm.
	Yeah.
	You know, 20,000 people, 30,000 people.
	I mean, Hillary could draw four or five thousand, but they were paid to be there.
	I mean, she had a little bit.
	And the other guy, you know, he basically drew wheelchairs from his nursing home.
	Yeah.
	A couple of little cars that were mostly ours.
	Right, right, right, right.
	And he looked he looked like they let him out for the weekend.
	Are you talking about Biden?
	That's his name.
	Yeah, Biden.
	OK.
	Yeah.
	He didn't even draw.
	Did you say fourth?
	Maybe 10.
	Remember when he did the rallies with the cars that showed up?
	I thought that was hilarious.
	Reminded me of when I used to go to drive in movies.
	But there was nothing to see.
	For a different reason.
	At least at a drive-in movie, you had some action, right?
	Well, I never saw anything in a drive-in movie.
	Hang on.
	Hang on.
	You didn't see anything in a drive-in movie?
	So where are we going from here?
	And I don't mean to turn the tables on you guys, but you guys were there in 2016.
	You were there in 2020.
	You've been there, whether in media.
	If I don't get this answer, John will be really mad at me.
	So what are we going to do?
	What is there in Arizona, and this could be broader, that assures that we don't go through 2020 and 2024?
	Well, I'm going to tell you what I'm doing.
	And if it's not there, what should we do?
	We're taking every legal action, we're taking every legal avenue that we can.
	And I know people say, oh, come on, we wanted a better answer than that.
	But we have to, we have to take the legal route right now, you know.
	Of course, it's the only thing we can do.
	The only thing we can do right now.
	And we're going to take it, we've taken it all the way up to the Arizona Supreme Court.
	And right now the Arizona Supreme Court said, You know what?
	The lower court screwed up, and they gotta take this big part back, which is the sham of signature verification on these sham ballots.
	I hear you, I hear you, but I totally, 1000% disagree.
	What do you think?
	Here's why.
	Look at what's happened in Tennessee over the last couple days.
	Look what's happened in Montana.
	Okay.
	We're playing two different games.
	They're doing a color revolution in two of the most Trump states in the country to try to blow out their general assemblies, right?
	The left This is a political war, and we're still playing by the Marquis of Queensborough's rules.
	And they're not, right?
	By the way, we're playing by Alinsky's rules.
	Look, we've got here one of the greatest people in the modern history of this country, Rudy Giuliani.
	That's right.
	And we have one of the greatest natural political talents that has ever come on the scene in Carrie Lake, right?
	Thank you.
	Every day they're out to destroy you, right?
	Look how they stole the stealing of the election in 22 is worse than the stealing election in 2020.
	they stole the stealing of the election in 22 is worse than the stealing election in 2020.
	It was more bold, brazen, and- And they were like, we don't care that you know.
	Exactly.
	But do you think we should not at least try to go through the legal system?
	No, no, no.
	We have to.
	Or should we just say color revolution?
	No, we have to go through the legal system.
	Because we actually have a case.
	But we have to get much more serious about how we're going to win this.
	Because these guys are not going to play by the rules.
	They're about winning.
	Look what's happened in our country in the last couple of years.
	Everybody looks around and says, how could this happen?
	How could this happen so quickly?
	Look at what they did to President Trump for the very second that we won, unless they never expected we were going to win in 16.
	I mean, Fox never thought, you know, I know that I was with Roger and with, and with, and, and, and they were in fact, Robert and Rupert and Rupert has his pollster.
	Roger Ailes called me on the Sunday before the election.
	I'm with Trump.
	We're doing like, you know, 20.
	In fact, you were with us and they had come back.
	The Fox decision desk already said, we're going to lose by five to six points.
	No, it's going to be a blowout.
	350 electoral votes or more.
	Roger said, Hey, will you come down and meet me in my place in Palm Beach?
	I've got the file.
	He says, what are you doing following Sunday?
	I said, we're going to be putting together a government.
	He says, I hope you're not telling Trump that.
	I go, of course I'm telling Trump that.
	Why we're in Wisconsin?
	Why we're in Michigan?
	And he goes, oh Fox, by the way, people should understand this thing with Tucker.
	This is 1,000% to get a populist nationalist platform that speaks to a broader audience.
	The podcast that Charlie Kirk and Real America is that, which is a broader people.
	They went to get that out.
	Rupert Murdoch and those scumbags at Fox have been a good beginning.
	It was in 2015.
	In 2015 at the debate where Brett Baier and Megyn Kelly tried to take him out.
	They tried to take him out in the first 10 minutes.
	But thank God they did.
	You know what?
	America was so rooting for Trump when they threw those hateful questions.
	I remember he said only Rosie O'Donnell.
	This is my point about a special talent.
	With that pressure, standing up for the very first time as a candidate on that stage, where 20 guys have been, that's the crowd, in every vertical, they had the top libertarian in Rand Paul, they had the top limited conservative in Ted Cruz.
	Hundreds of millions of dollars.
	With that, and they're coming at you in the first 10 minutes.
	Off the top of your head to respond as cool and collected as he did?
	You can't, you can't coach that.
	Yeah.
	That's unnatural.
	And that's what I think turned the American people say, this guy's serious.
	Yeah.
	And because of that time, I remember Roger and those guys were saying.
	Same people, by the way, I hate to say it, but I'm going to say it because I always speak the truth.
	Those same people are behind the guy who's going to run against Trump in this election.
	And he's the Florida governor and I will give DeSantis credit.
	They're going to watch after we put this out.
	They're going to go.
	Carrie Lake attacked him.
	I didn't attack him.
	I'm speaking calmly and I'm saying something very straightforward.
	DeSantis won reelection because the people of Florida want him to be governor, for him to turn around, run a shadow campaign that the people of this beautiful state are paying for is wrong.
	It's wrong.
	And President Trump helped create him.
	President Trump helped put him into office.
	And he talked about that last night at his big book event.
	He's the guy.
	I mean, he was polling, I believe, Ron DeSantis at three percent against a crackpotting pervert.
	Oh, you're talking about, you're talking about Gillum.
	No, no, no.
	That was in The General.
	The General.
	In The General.
	In the, in the, and he was three percent.
	No, I'm talking about, I'm talking about the first time he won.
	Yeah, that's Putnam.
	That was Adam Putnam.
	He was barely polling against a guy who turned out to be a crack addict, meth head.
	He's a rhino, that's not a pervert.
	Pervert.
	Yeah, Gillum, Gillum.
	No, yeah, no, no, no, you're right.
	I'm talking about the first time when Trump first supported him and made him who he is.
	You've got to have a little bit of loyalty.
	I know.
	I am not a fan of the personal attacks.
	Right.
	I'm not either.
	But and I know you're not doing it, but.
	DeSantis is a good governor.
	We're in a war right now.
	We're in a war with the administrative state, with the D state to take our country back.
	We're in a war with the Chinese Communist Party.
	We don't have time to have on the job training.
	We had a guy that delivered four years of peace and prosperity in the most turbulent time.
	I mean, you know the history of this.
	And Steve, the primary is, I don't know if you agree with this, and from my point of view, of course, we've got to watch it and we've got to be careful, but the primary is over.
	I agree.
	He's going to win the primary.
	No way DeSantis.
	He's the draw.
	He's the ratings.
	And I think he should have a say.
	I think he should go on War Room and do a debate there, to be honest.
	But I mean, he's beating them by so much.
	Look, the DNC, they know how to roll.
	Okay, this is the difference between the DNC and the RNC.
	The DNC announces the other day, after Bobby Kennedy's on Tucker, and at 17%, they come out and announce, no debates.
	They got a guy that says, how's 70%?
	Ronan went to the Reagan library with Bossy, our guy, Dave Bossy, who goes with Bossy, and they set it up at the Reagan library.
	Why did he say, I'm going to follow the Democrat rule?
	I told the president, no debates.
	You shouldn't debate.
	Why give the Keebler elves?
	I love that.
	That's what they are.
	They're just getting your money.
	I mean, this is not real.
	This is not a primary.
	Well, what if they do the top contenders?
	Actually, I like Trump.
	I like Trump in a more crowded field, to be honest.
	It's great television, but he needs to be calling the shots.
	He is.
	I think the shots, the primary is over.
	Focus on the general.
	Go after Biden.
	When you win it, when you win it by 30 percent.
	I mean, so let the other guys just debate themselves and let it go.
	I'm not so sure.
	I think after this disastrous foreign trip that is ill advised.
	Here's the problem with this answer is the problem he's got.
	He's a good man.
	He's done a really good job as governor.
	Yep.
	He's got some terrible consultants around him.
	Play the piece.
	The consultants are going to make twenty five or thirty million dollars.
	They got him on this bogus trip.
	It's for the Japanese vote!
	You can't produce for the Japanese vote.
	They're not telling him.
	They're not telling him, Ron, we're in this because we want to make money.
	They're giving him terrible advice.
	The people love him.
	He should say governor and run in twenty eight and he'll be powerhouse.
	And they stole how much money from Robson, the consultants, 10 million bucks,
	every box.
	Every week they said, pour 800,000 more in.
	We'll give it to you.
	800,000 more.
	And nobody knows her and the people who do know her don't like her because she is truly a rhino.
	I hate to break up this conversation.
	Please wait right here.
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	The president.
	Oh, all right, and we're back.
	Thank you for joining us, America's Mayor Live.
	We're on.
	We're back live.
	America's Made Alive with special guests.
	Can we talk about the party we have here?
	I don't know if everybody can see this.
	Did we get that 360 camera up?
	I don't know if this is Is this normal when you do a podcast?
	No, no, we usually have about six or seven people.
	We don't have as many as usual.
	Yeah, this is a special occasion.
	I mean, Steve is a surprise.
	And they actually were going to surprise me that he was coming.
	They were afraid I'd throw him out.
	We were going to surprise you, actually.
	We're going to surprise you with the FBI showing up at your show.
	I've been there.
	I know what I have my underwear on.
	Oh, man.
	No, but Carrie, we invited like five people and look what we got.
	I mean, it's great.
	So we had to cut them off, you know.
	We have a party here.
	The HOA is mad, but we don't care.
	Celebrating our country.
	If you don't like us and like Trump and the ones who love you, they'll go to the end of the earth for you.
	What if they hate you and want to kill you?
	We'll go to the end of the earth.
	Who killed you?
	Hasn't that always been in the history of human beings?
	I think it's worse now, don't you?
	Yeah, yeah.
	Jesus had it pretty bad.
	We're willing to go to the end of the earth to save our country.
	So we've got this great group.
	We've got people are saying we got questions.
	We got Lee Rizzuto, one of the great patriots here.
	Are we going to do a quick question?
	Yeah, we're going to have Lee.
	You're not on yet.
	I'm going to put this chair next to Steve.
	They don't have to stand.
	We have no idea what the questions are going to be.
	They could be... Here we go.
	What do you have, Lee?
	Introduce yourself.
	Lee Rizzuto, former U.S.
	Consul General under the Trump administration.
	Patriot.
	Patriot.
	But hold on, but more importantly, the earliest guy ever to come in and back Donald Trump is right here.
	Lee Rizzuto.
	Wow.
	Day one.
	Day one.
	He's a day one.
	He's day one, baby.
	So I recognize the many patriots and the many tremendous minds in our party, but I hear something over and over again that I have to repeat.
	Part and jest, but pretty accurate.
	There's more UFO sightings than sightings of Ronald McDaniel.
	The greatest deficiency of our party is the missing RNC.
	The RNC should be the voice and the platform of our party, whether it was January 6th, whether it was 2022, whether it's every event, every day, 24-7, 365, the party should be speaking on behalf of every one of us, every conservative and every patriot in our country.
	And that's the missing deficiency.
	And here we are, we renew a $750,000 salary for a person that's seen less than UFOs.
	So there you go.
	Okay, who wants to start?
	Let me start.
	I think, I'm not saying I agree with you or disagree with you, but we did have that fight, right?
	We had a very pitched battle.
	We had Caroline Wren, Paper ballots.
	And we lost.
	I don't know if we have the opportunity now, given we're 18 months away, to fight that fight again.
	I think we've got to deal with what we've got.
	It's like the whole thing with the machines.
	Remember, we still have a big divide right now in our party about, you know, two-thirds of Carrie Lake's base Yeah, I don't blame them.
	We should be able to.
	So can't we do two things at once?
	I agree with you that the RNC is nowhere near as aggressive as the DNC about being in your face.
	That being said, I think we've got to live with what we've got now.
	Can I say one thing about that?
	to make it. I mean, I don't ask the can I say one thing about that? Because I got involved
	in that fight and and she won.
	Ronna won in a landslide.
	In a landslide.
	It wasn't close.
	It wasn't a squeaker.
	It was a landslide.
	And I've talked to her since then.
	I was not for her.
	But I recognize that she has told me she's willing to fight hard.
	We'll see what happens.
	But a part of me wonders if If we would have brought a new person in, the learning curve is pretty steep in an election cycle to have somebody who's new.
	And and we talk about like the ability.
	What changes have you seen specifically in Arizona?
	I haven't yet and I'm waiting for it.
	But it's a ticket.
	Well, I will say this.
	Ronna helped pay for some of our legal fees.
	Right.
	I'm going to give her that.
	I'm going to be credit where credit's due and I will call people out where where they don't deserve it.
	But my concern was, I don't think we had a great candidate going up against her.
	Rana was somebody who knew how to have that.
	Just like Trump has a personal relationship, he knows how to work relationships against, and DeSantis doesn't have that.
	Rana has that, and our opponent did not have that.
	It's April of 2023.
	Do we have the infrastructure?
	Do you believe?
	In Arizona, because if we don't win Wisconsin, which we just lost the Supreme Court, if we don't win and got blown out, let's be frank, if we don't win Wisconsin, in Georgia, in Arizona, Donald J. Trump is not going to be president.
	I agree.
	It's the blue wall that you and I helped take down.
	Oh, that was it.
	But Michigan and Pennsylvania, I think right now, we've got to get.
	So here's my point.
	My point has nothing to do, although, you know, it doesn't sound maybe the same about attack in Rana.
	It's about escalating the position and maybe Ronna understanding her position.
	She needs to be present.
	She is the head of the RNC.
	She needs to be out there 24-7, 365.
	Can I make a suggestion from my own experience and from, I think, the experience of the successful presidential elections?
	Don't worry about the RNC.
	Presidents don't win with the RNC.
	Mayors don't win with the party.
	You put your own organization together.
	You think I depended on the Republican?
	Republican Party in New York City takes, you know, one third of the bribes that the Democrats give them.
	I put my own organization, which is what he has to do.
	Hang on, hang on, hang on.
	He got, in 16, we had teams ready.
	Remember, we did two things in 16.
	We won, and we closed.
	If you don't close, it's not a victory, right?
	It's like a deal.
	You can win an M&A deal if you don't close, and Trump's a closer.
	He closed in those last hundred days.
	I said, Hillary's not a closer.
	You're a closer.
	In 2020, we got 74 million votes.
	Think about that for a second.
	74 million votes.
	That's what I keep saying about DeSantis.
	The whole group of Republicans running against him couldn't get 74 million votes.
	And we still are not in the White House.
	How could that possibly be?
	Because we didn't close.
	And the question we have to answer, whether it's the RNC, the state parties, the Trump
	campaign.
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	Okay, that's the Democrat lawyer.
	Oh boy.
	He's a lawyer.
	He's diabolical.
	He's diabolical.
	First off, I want to say something.
	You talk about President Trump.
	You've been doing this most of your professional life.
	You go to Trump and 15 you see these rallies and those are the type of things
	in presidential campaigns that in the last week Kerry Lake is running a camp for you guys that weren't out
	there It was the Trump campaign in 16 to 1 just at a state level
	Massive rousing kind of the same current and and you're telling me she didn't win
	No.
	That Katie Hobbs that was in a basement the entire time and would not debate won?
	It's a joke.
	It was stolen in broad daylight.
	They're getting so bold.
	The diabolical, I don't even want to call it left, uniparty, you know, globalists are so bold.
	They go, we don't care that we stole it right in front of your face.
	We don't care that you know, and you're going to deal with it.
	That's what we're getting.
	And I fear That in 24, if they see Trump is marching toward victory, they will do anything they can to stop the elections.
	They'll start a war.
	They'll introduce a virus.
	They'll do whatever they have to to bring down our elections rather than have the man that the people wants win.
	And so what do we do at that point?
	I think it would be very, very Smart and it has to be controlled by the Trump campaign because the only one that you can trust if they put together a task force with a lot of money and each state you put together your own organization that's responsible directly to you to figure out when I when I lost the first time I was cheated.
	I don't want to get cheated again.
	I couldn't contest the election because I would have lost in a democratic city and I would have lost to the first black mayor and I've been ruined.
	So instead, I had a $10 million election, so think of the scale.
	I took $2 million out of the $10 million we raised for a voter integrity committee.
	I hired two people to do it.
	They were exceptionally talented.
	Randy Levine, who's president of the Yankees now for the last 10 years, and John Sweeney, who's a United States congressman.
	And they went and hired staff and volunteers two years before the election they started.
	And by the time election day came around, they had figured out how they cheated last
	time and what we had to do to prevent it.
	Now, on election day, I went up to Randy and I said, Randy, did we prevent the cheating?
	He said, boss, we prevented enough of it so you're going to win.
	That's right.
	They probably stole about $30,000 this time.
	They stole about $65,000 last time.
	But some of the precincts, we couldn't get people in there.
	Some of the places, it would have been useless to go to court because the judge is a complete, you know.
	But also the fact that we did it created a deterrent effect.
	The fact that we did it, and John and I were talking about that today, the fact that we were doing it, we made it very public that we were doing it.
	And then I'll tell you one little dirty trick that we played.
	One little dirty trick.
	A dirty trick in New York?
	You're a dirty trick in New York?
	I'm so shocked.
	No, but played by Republicans!
	By Republicans.
	Republicans don't know dirty tricks.
	How about this one?
	Okay, give it to me.
	So they went through East Harlem, which is all Hispanic, and they gave out little cards and the card said, if you come to vote, make sure you have your green card because INS are picking up illegals.
	Oh my gosh.
	So they spread it all over the Hispanic community.
	After the election, the Clinton Civil Rights Division investigated me.
	I was on vacation after the election, and I get a call from my lawyer, Denny Young, and he says, Rudy, the Justice Department's investigating us.
	Janet Reno's coming after us.
	We violated civil rights.
	I said, Denny, you're a lawyer.
	Think about it.
	What civil rights do we violate?
	They don't have civil rights.
	All we did is prevent people who can't vote from voting.
	Maybe we tricked them, but tricking is not a crime.
	Oh, and in those days, we didn't have crazy prosecutors.
	Nowadays, they probably prosecute you for it, even though it isn't.
	And that's the way we kept down the Hispanic vote.
	This is what we don't do.
	Not the legal vote, the illegal vote.
	Yeah.
	People don't have the right to vote.
	Illegal vote.
	Yeah.
	The Hispanic illegal vote, which takes away the Hispanic legal vote.
	That's right.
	We have Lee and some other very influential people in this audience.
	Right.
	Which I'm kind of shocked is over at Rudy's numbers.
	What does Steve have to say?
	No, it's very impressive, very impressive.
	We didn't tell me.
	This is a big crowd.
	No, no, by the way, it'd been a third of the crowd, okay?
	Mr. Sunshine shows up.
	They love you, they love you, you know that.
	What we need, thank you, thank you.
	What does Steve have to say, what does Steve have to say?
	Well, hold on, hold on.
	What does Steve have to say?
	Honored, honored, honored.
	My agent, my agent, we need you guys to get involved here.
	We need to stop this primary and focus 100% on Trump's general election campaign against Biden right now.
	We need the time and we need the money and we need the focus.
	We've got to get focused on these states and can't have it.
	We can't have it stolen again.
	And that's where you guys can come into effect to tell these other candidates.
	We're not giving you any money.
	Governor DeSantis has got to focus on.
	He's a great governor.
	Focus on being a governor.
	You got a shot in 28.
	The rest of the guys, it doesn't matter.
	I mean, they're all trying to get book deals or trying to get books somewhere.
	It's all irrelevant.
	And they should just go away, and we shouldn't play the game the media wants.
	There is no primary.
	Donald Trump's up by 30 or 40 points a day.
	The Chinese Communist Party's at war with us.
	It's too serious.
	The deep state's at war with us.
	We're in the beginning stages of World War III.
	Donald Trump's the only guy that gave us four years of peace and prosperity in the most trying time in American history.
	The country's coming apart.
	Only Trump, whether you like him, hate him, if he drives you crazy, or love him.
	He is the guy and we got to put all forces and the RNC and Rana, and quite frankly, Dave Bossie, junk these fricking debates, scrap the whole thing.
	Trump shouldn't pay any attention to it.
	You're right.
	They should be hammering, hammering Biden and the crime family every day.
	Do you guys agree?
	Steve, Steve, I have a suggestion for you because I a thousand percent agree.
	Starting with the RNC, We need someone like you to pull all these groups.
	Washington, you got all these incredible groups.
	You got the Heritage Foundation.
	You have FreedomWorks.
	You have the Freedom Caucus, right?
	You have Young Americans for Liberty.
	You have Turning Point USA.
	Who's pulling all these groups together?
	So do you want to leverage a result Head up, pull in all these groups together, and let's leverage the resources of all these organizations into one focus.
	But that's where people can come in.
	You can reach out and say, I'm a Heritage Foundation supporter.
	I want you supporting Trump.
	Get them all on the same topic.
	It's a great idea, Lee.
	Lee, all of them agree.
	Put the candidates aside, that Biden is not just a disaster.
	I bet every single one of them agrees that if the Democrats win this election, our country could be gone.
	I don't mean affected, I mean the country as we know it will no longer... The country that was bequeathed to us by 13 generations, if we don't win this time is gone.
	It'll be something radically different and you can see it every day.
	From the schools, to the universities, to the entertainment, to media, to what's happening in Silicon Valley.
	Remember in this country right now we have a significant fifth column That actively supports the Chinese Communist Party for business reasons, right?
	So there's an active fifth column today.
	So we're going to lose.
	And this is what I'm saying.
	We don't have the luxury.
	Even if you're not a Trump fan, we don't have the luxury of having some debating society right now.
	We've got a guy that gave us four years of peace and prosperity.
	He's the toughest.
	Think about it for a second.
	Who else in the world is going to go up against the mullahs in Persia, the KGB in Moscow, the jihadis in Pakistan, Erdogan in Turkey, Lula in Brazil, and little mini-me in North Korea, and the Chinese Communist Party in Beijing?
	These are the worst.
	collection.
	This makes as bad as Hitler and Mussolini and Imperial Japan and look at the devastation they did in World War II.
	200 million people dead because of those criminals.
	These guys today could be worse with biological weapons, with nuclear weapons, with artificial intelligence.
	We've got Trump.
	If you want, and it's just reality, you've got Trump.
	We've got to get in back of him.
	I love the idea.
	I will start talking to some people about pulling everybody together, and we've got to get in pulling the same, in the same, we got, and nobody's got, there's always going to be things.
	Whether it's abortion or taxes, whatever, there's always going to be issues we don't totally agree on.
	We don't have room for that.
	They want us fighting the culture wars, and there's plenty to argue about, and we can argue that.
	We're talking about an existential threat to our way of life, our country being gone.
	We won't even be able to have those arguments on cultural stuff if we don't have a country.
	We've got to save our country first, and Trump is the only way through that.
	And I'm going to speak from a mom.
	From a mother's perspective, I know you guys have children of your own.
	Do you want your kids going off to fight a war right now?
	One that we don't have to be in?
	I don't.
	I know my son would fight and my daughter would fight for our country if we were fighting a noble cause.
	What we're going to be pushed into fighting is not a noble cause.
	It's being rushed and Joe Biden doesn't know what the hell he's doing or talking about.
	We need to protect our own southern border and not send billions off overseas to protect another border.
	I want to fight the war that we may have to fight and be prepared to fight the war we may have to fight.
	And not fight discretionary wars.
	And I think the more we can prepare our military to be the best war fighting machine in the world.
	I got that.
	But Ronald, look, I was a naval officer in the 7th Fleet patrolling the South China Sea and the Straits of Taiwan at 21 or 22.
	The last thing I want to see is the 7th Fleet in a kinetic war right now.
	I agree with you.
	I agree with you.
	No, no.
	So I want to win like Ronald Reagan did.
	Victory without bloodshed.
	But he did it with an overwhelming army and navy.
	But he also did it with economics and technology.
	We could cut off and destroy the CCP.
	This is why we need Trump.
	And I love your idea.
	We'll pull people together.
	But you guys got to help us in shutting down.
	You got to help us in shutting down this primary.
	And let's get on with the work ahead.
	Yeah, I agree.
	But you do agree, Steve, that the best deterrent to war is to have the most overpowering military in the world.
	That's what Ronald Reagan did.
	I'm not sure we have that right now.
	Rudy, I'm not sure today with the weapons we have that we can do that.
	We're out of ammunition.
	Artificial intelligence is so quick.
	Things are so quick.
	Well, the best artificial intelligence.
	You've got to be the superior power.
	You've got to be the bully.
	But under Joe Biden, we don't have that.
	If you cut the Chinese Communist Party off of all capital and all technology from the United States of America in six months, lao bai jing, the Chinese people would overthrow.
	Okay.
	We don't need to fight and get ready for, by the way, I didn't say we should fight.
	What I say is we should be, we should, they shouldn't have a larger Navy than we have.
	I'm not sure.
	I'm not so sure we got the money to build the type of neighborhood we need to defend.
	And we don't have the people in the military who are ready for it.
	And then what the hell are we going to do?
	And we don't have ammunition.
	Let's look back at Trump.
	He was attacked for speaking to North Korea.
	He was attacked for speaking to Russia.
	He was attacked for speaking to Well, we view as our enemies and perhaps so, but the fact of the matter is he took an intellectual and diplomacy approach as opposed to saying, watch out, I'm going to push this button.
	Perhaps he said that behind the scenes, but there's much to be said for diplomacy and intellectual approach as opposed to just saying, okay, I got the biggest gun.
	You might have the second biggest gun and it doesn't matter anymore because today the technology is so great, we're all dead.
	I think the diplomacy works.
	What did he say the other day?
	I told Putin that if you went into the Ukraine, I'd bomb Moscow.
	And he didn't believe me.
	Just 10 percent.
	That's right.
	That's a Reagan.
	I work for Ronald Reagan, so I'm prejudiced about that.
	But Ronald Reagan came into office to do three things.
	One, to defeat communism, because he was the only one who actually believed we shouldn't have detente.
	And we should.
	And they were evil.
	And they were eventually going to take us over if we didn't defeat them.
	Number two, to produce a strong economy.
	And number three, to retire the dead.
	he accomplished one and two and he gave up three to destroy Russia. Gorbachev in his book says
	Ronald Reagan spent me into oblivion. And that I think that reflects you have got to have.
	We don't have that balance sheet anymore, Rudy.
	We're going to have to work towards it.
	No, no.
	Volcker and Reagan, we're not that country.
	We were a manufacturing superpower.
	We had actually pristine balance sheet, right?
	We had a different workforce.
	So if war is computer now, so why aren't we the best at computers?
	I think we can be.
	My point is that the old playbook of just building kinetic forces.
	Well, I'm not saying that.
	I'm saying to be, however we're going to fight a war, we should be superior.
	Well, but we need a strong person who's leading our country.
	And right now, if Joe Biden stood up and said anything, these other leaders would laugh in his face.
	When Trump said he got along with everybody and he said he would shake Putin's hand and then he would say, you try something, I'm going to bomb Moscow.
	Putin believed him.
	Just like when you went after the criminals and said, we're going to put you behind bars.
	I never had to do it.
	I told them, if you do anything illegal at the beginning of a protest, I'm going to arrest you.
	Because that's how it becomes a riot.
	Because we had so many before.
	I never had one.
	Because they believed you.
	They believe you say it with credibility and they think you're a little crazy.
	They they.
	No, seriously, there's a real value to their thinking.
	Trump is a little crazy.
	Exactly.
	And also maybe we need to put the 10 percent.
	You were there, I think, when he was having dinner with Z and then he went off and bombed Syria.
	Yeah.
	Came back.
	And that was an act.
	I mean, in a sense that he comes back, he just doesn't even tell Z, and he goes on with it.
	He just bombed people.
	He comes back, he sits at the table, and Z finds out- Of which I was the one voice of the National Security Council that opposed.
	Okay, okay.
	Or he does it, he sits down, he sits down, doesn't even tell him.
	Z finds out, he says, did you just bomb somebody?
	Yeah.
	That's great.
	Yeah, where's dessert?
	That's playing on the guy's head.
	That's true.
	on the guy's head. I don't know if he should have bombed him or not. That's not the point.
	The point is he saw an opportunity to play on his head and he knew how to do that.
	Joe Biden doesn't know how to play on his own. I think Lee's right in the fact that
	as a business guy, he used the full spectrum.
	Yeah, he's a fabulous negotiator.
	It was economics.
	He knew how to put pressure on people.
	A few mind games.
	A few mind games, definitely mind games.
	You take everything in your toolbox and you use it.
	But I think the thing I worry about most, guys, is that when we have a stolen 2020 election, a stolen 22 election, people say, why would I vote?
	And I want... I wouldn't vote.
	He's worried about it.
	People say, why would I vote?
	They're stealing it.
	He's actually worried it's like a morale...
	Truly, and I don't blame people, but I want to say to the people listening tonight, I want you to spread this word, is this is exactly what this uniparty swamp wants.
	They have stolen enough elections now to show us that they're evil, and they want us to throw our hands up and go, I'm not going to vote.
	I'm not going to get involved.
	We can't do that.
	This is when we have to double down and we have to vote even harder, like our lives depend on it.
	Vote even in their corrupt system.
	They want us to go back to sleep, go back to our lives and let them run the show.
	They hate the fact that the grassroots has stepped up and got involved.
	The grassroots got involved and elected Donald J. Trump.
	The grassroots is still involved.
	We're running our Republican state parties and we have to stay involved as hard as it is, as pissed off as we are.
	And there's no one more pissed off than me.
	But stay involved and vote.
	I beg you to vote even in this corrupt system.
	And I believe this go around, we're going to have some changes.
	That's why I'm fighting our election case.
	Well, we love you, but we need you everywhere.
	I would like to see in the key states, you know, a lot of you don't have to, I'd like to see some real work done by pros.
	What do we need?
	We have time to get it now.
	We're burning daylight, though.
	And then how can we do it?
	Because this is doable.
	I used to say... I think we have a summit to get all the groups... Well, we've got to fight cases.
	You know, in desperation, when we were fighting those election cases four weeks behind, five weeks behind, we got great people that came in.
	If we had had them two years earlier, it would have...
	We need them.
	We got to do what we did after the election, before the election.
	Can I thank you guys for letting me crash this tonight?
	We love it.
	It was the greatest thing ever.
	Thank you guys so much.
	Of course we love it.
	And thank this lovely audience down here.
	So awesome.
	Rudy throws a live podcast on Getter.
	You got 25 hitters.
	What I want to know is do the neighbors know this much is going on here next door?
	I hope some of these are the neighbors.
	They know.
	The neighbors, number one, I don't think I have a dissenter here.
	Good.
	If I do, they're very quiet.
	Number two, it's after Easter and half of them are gone.
	Good.
	Perfect.
	Mayor, we're now in soccer time.
	Do you want to explain to our great guests what we mean by soccer time?
	See how long they want to stick around.
	Well, we'll take one or two more questions.
	Soccer time is when we go after nine o'clock and we don't know when it's going to end, like the stupid thing they do in soccer, which drives me nuts.
	The game's over and you have more time, but they don't tell you.
	Raise your hand if you have a question.
	Raise your hand if you have a question.
	Right here.
	We got a mom up there.
	I have one question.
	You mentioned Mr. Lee Rizzuto here being one of the early supporters.
	That's right.
	Not one of.
	Mr. Lee Rizzuto here being one of the early supporters.
	Hold it, hold it, hold it.
	This guy walked in and wrote, was it $500,000 or $250,000?
	$500,000.
	The first guy to walk into President Trump, at that time candidate Trump, and stroke a $500,000 check.
	And never wrote a political check before.
	Never wrote a political check before.
	And here's the thing with Lee.
	That's amazing.
	This is the type of guy he is, and this is the type of guy that Trump attracts.
	Never asks for anything.
	I've known this guy forever.
	He never wrote it.
	What can I do to help win?
	I know Trump from a very interesting point of view.
	As the U.S.
	Attorney in his city, I investigated everybody in his city.
	I know he's not crooked because it would be an insult to me if he was.
	I'd have caught him and put him in jail.
	You wouldn't be hanging out with him.
	And I'm going to give you and I feel vindicated.
	They spent millions of dollars to investigate 30 years of his life.
	This is the crap they came up with.
	They had to make up a crime.
	That's a misdemeanor built on a non-existent misdemeanor built on a non-existent felony.
	Right.
	That's a joke.
	Rudy is not going to turn us down.
	He turned us down last time to VHG.
	I think New York City wants him back.
	No, no, no.
	You know how bad DOJ is.
	But if you don't take DOJ, we're going to make you Southern District.
	We got another question here.
	We got a mama bear?
	No?
	We've got an amazing individual who's got a question.
	Introduce yourself and ask the question.
	Hi, Annabella Rockwell here.
	Oh no!
	That's a story for another time.
	What I want to know is, you mentioned the Chinese fentanyl for our southern borders.
	Who in North America is in on that?
	Because it can't just be China.
	You know, I think people imagine the cartels, the Mexican cartels, being just a bunch of, like, drug runners that, you know, you picture them and they've got backpacks on their back.
	This is a multinational company, right?
	These are sophisticated, expensive, suit wearing, two and three homes.
	This is a, it's almost a corporation.
	And the greatest partner in all of this is a bumbling fool named Joe Biden.
	He opened that border up to allow this to happen.
	I've been on the border too many times to even believe this is accidental.
	Trump covered Arizona for 30 years, almost 30 years.
	The borders were never more secure than under Donald Trump.
	He came in immediately and recognized that was a major problem.
	He started shutting down this illegal activity, did everything right, and he had to fight even the Republicans.
	He had to fight People who had been talking for 20 years about securing the border.
	Now he's saying, let's do it.
	And he got attacked by them.
	He had to fight tooth and nail.
	That is a brilliant question, because that is why Hobbs is in as governor illegitimately.
	And you're fighting in court to become the legitimate governor.
	The cartels are in business with business interests and the banking interest in Arizona and other states in this country are active partners to launder the money back in.
	They do a lot of it through real estate transactions.
	They're just like we have a fifth count.
	Remember, the fentanyl invasion is nothing more than the second opium war against us this time.
	The British East India Company did it against China.
	In the 1840s, that's how they got Hong Kong.
	To destabilize us.
	Well, it was originally destabilized China.
	They're here to destabilize us.
	This is an active, it's the third front of the war of the Chinese Communist Party against us.
	And they have, like when I say a fifth column, you have bankers, you have financial institutions, you have real estate interests.
	Government officials.
	Government officials in Arizona.
	That are in business with the cartels.
	The cartels could not do it by themselves, and you're absolutely correct.
	In fact, correct me if I'm wrong, the illegitimate Secretary of State of Arizona today is a former cartel lawyer.
	They hire top law firms.
	And by the way, have you ever seen the movie Sirocco?
	Sicario lays it all out.
	These guys are sophisticated.
	It's a multi hundred billion dollar business.
	I used to say that our borders were controlled by the cartels.
	Our state is now controlled by the cartels.
	They stole an election in broad daylight.
	They know the people know it and they don't care that the people know it.
	They have corrupted Maricopa County to the point where they're like, we own everybody.
	We own the lawyers, the judges, everybody.
	And we're fighting it right now.
	If you followed the campaign of Carrie Lake, Carrie Lake's central thing wasn't intellectual integrity.
	That was a very high priority.
	We have to have.
	Yeah.
	Her number one issue as you went around in Arizona is that the second I take my hand off the Bible as governor, I'm putting the Biden administration on notice that I'm going to close the border in Arizona and I'm going to start.
	I'm a I'm a designate the cartels, a terrorist organization in Arizona and start arresting people, arresting the bankers in the real estate.
	That is why they came after Kerry Lake.
	This was an effort by the cartels and others say, just like with Trump, these guys are going to play hardball.
	We got to get rid of Steve.
	And I know that I meant what I said, just like what they thought with with Rudy.
	The American people actually don't understand the Mexican cartels.
	They have a notion of them that's 30 years old.
	I was in charge of drug enforcement in the 1980s in Manhattan and in the 1970s.
	Mexican cartels with secondary players, the Colombian cartels with the major players, the mafia, the Chinese organized crime.
	With the destruction of the Colombian cartels, with a great effort, that switched all to Mexico.
	They made great deals with China and with ISIS.
	Don't forget, they've been partners with ISIS for 15 years.
	It became an enormously sophisticated organization.
	And even I was shocked when I went to take a good look at it about five years ago.
	Someone asked, who do they deal with?
	They deal with themselves.
	They have their own people right in the United States.
	Thirty years ago, the Mexicans would just hand the drugs off.
	Now, they're like the mafia.
	In New York, there are The thousand representatives of the Sinaloa cartel, the
	Gulf Folk cartel, they are businessmen.
	They are not raunchy looking poncho poncho. They're sophisticated as hell. They're not
	back alley crooks. They're richer than the Colombian cartels and they're smarter.
	Yeah. It takes sophistication to learn that much money. In the second Trump term, you will see
	direct paramilitary and military interdiction of the cartels.
	And the people are behind that.
	The people are behind that.
	His last two years in office, fentanyl was down.
	I know.
	For the first time in 20 years, down!
	We get another question, guys.
	Introduce yourself.
	Hi!
	Well, this is Mr. Mayor Steve Bannon, the amazing Carrie Lake.
	I was informed last night by Well, I'm just, I'm just confused about one thing.
	that my children not only belong to me, but they belong to the nation.
	And I thought that was very strange because I thought that my children were
	mine and that I had control over their lives and their beliefs and how they grow up.
	And what do you guys think that my children belong to the nation and to Joe Biden?
	Well, this is this is I'm just I'm just confused about one thing.
	You said my president.
	Is Joe Biden my president to anybody?
	I know, I was like, what?
	Come on, baby!
	Come on, baby!
	So Joe Biden, basically Joe Biden said... Hold it, hold it, hold it.
	You're not open to co-parent with the state?
	Is that what you're telling me?
	You're not open to co-parent with the state?
	Steve, they're not open to co-parenting with her.
	They want to take over.
	So this is the central, this is one of the five central tenets of Marxism.
	Marxism, Mao, you name it.
	You get God out, You beat the hell out of a country's history, the statues or whatever, and you get rid of those, and you take over the kids.
	Hitler wanted to take them over two years old.
	That was the optimum time to take them away.
	And that is true of Mao.
	It's true of Stalin.
	It's true of Lenin.
	And it's right in the Black Lives Matter playbook.
	Number two, number two objective, get rid of the nuclear family.
	Because they're not Black Lives Matter.
	They were, they were, Well, I know it's not happening, but it's happening in a lot of families and they've been doing it for about 25 years.
	So Carrie Lake, that's Katie Hobbs' number one thing, has become a co-parent.
	Her radical agenda already in Arizona is over the top with the trans ideology, the co-parenting.
	You see the parents' rights movement.
	So what is the difference?
	What were you going to do or going to do as governor to break?
	This is the Marxist stranglehold on the family.
	One of the greatest things that's happened over the past three years is that homeschooling families have skyrocketed.
	Thank God.
	Take it back.
	Bring it back home.
	And, you know, Katie Hobbs, when she was in the state legislature, which should have been a huge red flag, which was a red flag, was she introduced legislation.
	When you put your name on legislation, you're proud of it.
	She co-sponsored legislation to introduce sex ed in kindergarten.
	This is outrageous.
	If you talk about sex at work, you're going to get fired or sued for... Or you're on a list.
	Or you're on a list.
	And you should be.
	Nobody wants to hear about your sex life.
	Keep it private.
	And we certainly don't want you pushing that stuff to our children.
	It's wrong.
	We understand why, because her husband's involved.
	He's a psychiatrist who talks kids into that crazy stuff that they could change gender.
	They're making money on it as a family.
	And this is where they're gonna lose it.
	Homeschooling's great.
	I'm a huge supporter of that.
	The charter schools are great.
	I went to Catholic school in my life.
	The Catholic schools, the classic Christian schools are great.
	But we can't leave behind two-thirds of the nation, and particularly the minority kids.
	This is why we... When they get their hands on the minority kids... This is why... With the poison they're putting in through the public schools.
	You're absolutely right.
	How do we solve that?
	Well, and our school called for banning all of that gender nonsense to our kids.
	Pushing an agenda where we did the 1776 project, which is about teaching a true American history.
	Our country is the most exceptional country in the world.
	Teaching the basics for our kids and then introducing true life skills.
	I mean, if you ask any mom and dad who has got a teenager, they would love for their son or daughter to be able to learn the trades again, vocational training and common sense in school.
	But Arizona also did something that's very important.
	You attached the money to the student, to the student in the public school, not to the school.
	Talk to us.
	We were the first state.
	We call it ESA.
	Some people call it vouchers.
	We were the first state to do that.
	And in Arizona, we passed basically your tax money.
	is attached to your child and you choose where the child goes.
	Do you want to go to a Catholic school like Steve did?
	Do you want to homeschool?
	Do you want to go to a charter school?
	And the minute Katie Hobbs that squatter took control of the office,
	she tried to pull that back.
	Did she? She's she's working on it.
	She's not going to come.
	She hasn't accomplished it yet.
	The union, I fought major battles with the union.
	But we have to stand up for our money to follow our suit.
	When we pay our tax money to the students, our tax money for education is not assigned to some public school.
	It's assigned to the student.
	And we have to stand up and fight for that.
	That's where the moms and dads can get involved.
	You do that, you engage the parent also.
	But then you might be a domestic terrorist.
	That's okay.
	We don't care what they call us.
	You might be labeled.
	Does anybody realize, because everything in the Biden administration is about two things.
	It's about money and communism and China.
	Money, communism, China.
	China, communism, money.
	Garland's son-in-law runs one of the largest, I call it, gender Changing organization, you know, basically a propaganda organization to get kids to doubt their gender.
	He's making a fortune doing it.
	Making a fortune doing it.
	And this guy Garland is labeling people who oppose it as terrorists.
	You don't think there's a connection between the two things?
	Of course there is.
	Garland is a complete crook.
	And his son-in-law is some kind of a creep that wants to mutilate your kids.
	I mean, nobody... Just so people understand something.
	Communism is not about everybody getting a piece of the action.
	The Chinese Communist Party run the way the Bolsheviks run.
	It is all about power and central control.
	And that's what... Remember, we were going to change... Tell them how many... We were going to change... Only 92 million people in China.
	Out of 1.4 billion, there are 92 million communists.
	And of the 92 million, only about a thousand actually make decisions.
	The rest are just functionaries and grundoons.
	It's about power.
	Here's what's happening.
	If you look at the United States, we're taking over the characteristics of the authoritarian aspects of the Chinese Communist Party.
	This week, Biden signed an executive order about environmental justice.
	That environmental justice, because he can't get these things passed through Congress because we control the House.
	In the Environmental Justice Executive Order, he sets up essentially a social credit score, just like the Chinese Communist Party has.
	The administrative state and the deep state have every aspect of the authoritarian impulse of the Chinese Communist Party, and that's how they want to run it, with an iron grip, where the parents are domestic terrorists, where they take control of it.
	They're doing the same playbook of the French Revolution, the Nazis, the Bolsheviks, And the CCP under Mao and the Red Guard.
	It's exactly the same playbook.
	That's why this fight, I'm telling you, the gap between us and our opponents is not bridgeable.
	You can't negotiate this.
	You can't compromise this.
	First off, they're not going to compromise.
	There's no coming to the middle.
	There's no coming to the middle.
	You and Katie Hobbs can't work a deal out because you're on opposite sides of these issues.
	There are things we can work with, work with people on.
	You know, there's basic issues that we can go, well, maybe we can negotiate a little bit here.
	There's no coming to the middle when they want to mutilate our children.
	There's no coming to the middle when they want to brainwash our children, when they want to lie about our history.
	There's no coming to the middle when they want to pussyfoot around stopping the cartels at the border.
	We can't come to the middle on this stuff.
	And I don't think moms and dads want it.
	And the biggest force they're going to be met with Are the mama bears out there?
	The mama bears who don't have a lot of time, they're raising their kids, and now they say, crap, I got to stop and I got to help save my country.
	And they will, but they're not going to be happy about it.
	They're going to, they will tear these people up.
	The left and a lot of these people pushing this nonsense on our children don't have children.
	And I know we've all seen those videos of a dad or a mom or two dads lifting a car off of a child who's unfortunately been run over by a car.
	And you go, how on the?
	Hell, did they lift that car?
	It is that protective instinct that is in each and every one of us moms and dads.
	We will do whatever it takes to save our kids.
	And the left has messed with the wrong people.
	Now that the moms and dads are involved, it's not going to go well for them because we will die for our children.
	And they don't understand that.
	They have messed with the wrong people.
	And the moms are going to run for office, and the dads are, and we're going to step up, and we're going to do whatever we have to.
	We're not stopping.
	We have one final question.
	All right.
	Okay.
	Hey guys, I'm Phil Nikosidis.
	I'm local here to the Palm Beach area.
	I've been here about 20 years.
	And I just want to say that living here where our president, not the resident who was installed in Pennsylvania, the real president living here with all the people that come through the MAGA Brain Trust.
	We are actually, the way I look at it, we're the government in exile.
	Oh, I love it.
	Amen.
	Amen.
	Yeah, very good point.
	You talk about education, and I will say this.
	I'm not a fan of the War Room.
	I consider myself a student of the War Room.
	What I tell people is that anybody who watches the War Room on a regular basis, it's your PhD in statecraft.
	That's right.
	And so it's where we get a lot of ideas.
	So the latest idea I got from Steve and the War Room Classy is RFK Jr.
	I woke up at four o'clock in the morning, and a friend had sent a text.
	He said, watch this two-hour speech from RFK, the announcement speech.
	And so at 4.15, I put it on, I'm laying there, and I heard an America First, MAGA-ish speech from this RFK Jr.
	guy, who has a terrible voice.
	It's hard to understand, but you know what?
	There's probably a hundred things that he has said that we would hate.
	But the things that he was saying in the here and now really resonated with me.
	And you know what?
	And I'll finish and then you can comment.
	I saw Donald Trump last week and I had a quick conversation with him.
	I said, you know, today's MAGA Republican is yesterday's Kennedy Democrat.
	That's right.
	Kennedy would be an America first patriot.
	I never thought I would be a Kennedy Democrat, but I think I'm just about there to be a Kennedy
	Democrat.
	Now, since you're going to be governor, as Steve just said, or you're going to be-
	We're not cheating on you, Kerry.
	We're not cheating on you.
	She jumped me the other day.
	Did you say Kennedy?
	No, but talk about that.
	Talk about it for a second, because look, our first draft picks, I think there are a
	number of women that could be amazing vice presidents for President Trump, and I think
	Kerry Lake, to me, is at the top of my list.
	Now, we're not going to be able to pull her out of the governor's house after we took
	such a tough fight to get there, but she's at the top of my list.
	If we don't select one of these women, and if things continue to get worse, and we need a unity ticket, I think that only MAGA and only Trump Only MAGA and only Trump can sit there and say, okay, a Trump Kennedy ticket because we're not 70% of the country.
	We're not going to agree on guns.
	There's so much on Bobby Kennedy.
	We're not going to agree on abortion.
	There's a lot, but when you got to, if you, okay, the two speeches I would strongly recommend you guys go look at.
	He went to Hillsdale College.
	There's not a more limited government, conservative crowd, intellectuals than in Hillsdale, right?
	It's, it's, it's our pure American, pure American.
	He got standing ovations.
	He gave a, he gave a talk there about a month ago, eight standing ovations.
	Cause he talked about the administrative state, the buyer.
	And then the announcement speech, it was a little long.
	It was about two hours, but man, he took every theme that really is in the wheelhouse of president Trump.
	He said, this is what happens when you get censored for 18 years.
	This is what shows you though.
	He also said, I have so many skeletons in my closet.
	Yeah, that was a great sense of humor.
	Guys, this shows you that this is not about Democrat, Republican.
	It's about America.
	Are we up for saving America?
	We can put some of the stuff aside.
	We can set some of our differences aside, but it is critical that we join together as Americans and say, this constitution is non-negotiable.
	We've got to save this constitution.
	And you talked about Trump.
	Trump is the only guy with the street smarts and the savvy of New York that could take a Kennedy.
	And to work with a Kennedy that you actually do something, get two thirds of the nation to back it and then make this happen.
	Compare and contrast Donald Trump to Joe Biden.
	Well, the day after that speech, the DNC came out and said, no debates.
	Of course.
	Right?
	No debates.
	They do not want Bobby Kennedy on a stage with Joe Biden, make him look like that.
	Even with that voice in it.
	Bobby Kennedy has an illness of speech impediment.
	Imagine that.
	they're afraid to have Biden debate with a guy who's done a speech about it.
	Now if you read his book, and I was a Kennedy Democrat, I was his, I was the coordinator
	of the college campaign for Kennedy for Senate in New York when I was in college, when he was running.
	and I'll add to that.
	Actually, I was in the first year of law school, come to think of it.
	His father, not Jack Kennedy.
	I'm talking about Bobby Kennedy.
	I love Bobby Kennedy because Bobby Kennedy was a prosecutor by nature.
	With McCarthy and Roy Cohn.
	I'm gonna tell you, I'm gonna tell you to go, I want you to go get Kennedy's book about Fauci.
	It's amazing.
	In which he rips Fauci apart.
	Can I say one thing on that book really quick?
	Every journalist should be doing a story.
	There's a there's a million stories.
	And he has a thousand footnotes.
	So he did their work for them.
	But the most important thing about that book to this conversation is this.
	Go look at the section about communism.
	He has inherited, Joe McCarthy, that's the father, he's inherited Joe's views on communism.
	This guy goes back and he starts talking about how the Communists started to infiltrate us in the 1920s and 1930s.
	He learned that from his grandfather.
	And he talks about even, this is heresy for a Democrat, even how Roosevelt was limited by the Communist infiltration in his administration.
	So there are things we disagree about, but there are some remarkable things on which we agree.
	And the irony is, whoever thought that that ticket, a Palm Beach ticket, Of Trump and the Kennedys giving their history in Palm Beach would be the ticket to save the nation.
	Well, let me tell you one thing about Kennedy.
	I think that he is amazing.
	His book is the most important book I've read, probably my life, because he uncovers what Fauci's been up to.
	And Fauci, without a doubt, should not only be behind bars, he should be behind bars for life for what he's done.
	Thank you for Bobby Kennedy Jr.
	I think that America is worried a little bit about these family dynasties and there's definitely a place for Kennedy in a Trump administration.
	I'd love to see him heading up the FDA.
	And to stop this big pharma hold and strangle on this country.
	It may be too much.
	Ronald Reagan had a great expression who said, my 80% friend is not my 20% enemy.
	But if it becomes 60-40, which those are probably the differences with Kennedy, it might be a little tough.
	But it's an interesting thing to look at.
	And the exercise alone helps us to bridge one of the gaps.
	now, but it's remarkable on, on the things where he agrees with us.
	Yeah.
	Sometimes he agrees with us more than even we do.
	He is really, it's not perfect.
	It's not going to happen, but here's what I would love.
	If president Trump, when he wins a second term.
	Took a minute.
	If he unleashed Bobby Kennedy on the administrative state, God help him.
	Right?
	Because this is a tough, he's got the Kennedy toughness and grit.
	And this guy, it's a crusade on this thing, on the vaccines and the biomedical and the Fauci.
	The Fauci book is about as accessible.
	It's like the phone book.
	It's totally inaccessible.
	We sold a million and a half copies.
	And when you start reading, you couldn't put it down.
	We sold 750,000 copies.
	It's not an easy book to read, but you want to read it.
	Right.
	And finally, you want to go a little historical.
	It reminds me of the way his father pursued Jimmy Hoffa.
	Wow.
	And I eventually, I eventually took the Teamsters Union away from the mafia.
	And when I got attacked, Then Vice President Bush, Ronald Reagan said, well you just accomplished what the Kennedys wanted to do.
	Is Rudy Secretary of State, Attorney General, Chief of Staff?
	You know what I wanted to do?
	He knows this.
	What I wanted to do first time with Secretary of State Second time I wanted to have a one-year appointment to clean, to fire people.
	Good.
	No, I realize it's one of my talents.
	When I became mayor, I fired 12,000 people.
	I got rid of them all in one day and they said I couldn't run the city.
	Two weeks later, I was popular immediately.
	The city was running better without the 12,000 people.
	Can you do that on a bigger scale in the federal government?
	You'd have to look at the rules.
	Some of them I couldn't fire, but I'd move them to very inconvenient places.
	They live in Staten Island, and I'd stick them all the way up in the top of the Bronx.
	Hey, can I say one thing, though?
	And what has bothered me most about this disgusting, lying, propagandist media is that they have Tried to detract and tear apart this man's reputation.
	Oh, but all of them.
	We're all part of that.
	You too!
	But you destroyed the mafia.
	You took on the mafia.
	Who would do that?
	He did it.
	He did it successfully.
	They don't take it away from me.
	I know I did it.
	And the Wall Street.
	And he saved New York City.
	The greatest mayor I've ever had.
	He took the Wall Street mafia down with milk in that crowd.
	The five families down.
	You're one of the greatest Americans of the 20th century.
	Absolutely.
	Without a doubt.
	Don't take it away from me.
	I did it.
	What are they going to do?
	Well, I look forward to us.
	The one that gets them really upset is when I say I saved more black lives than any mayor in history.
	Anyplace.
	I believe that.
	I think Rudy for chief of staff.
	Yeah.
	Well, thank you guys.
	Couldn't have had a better discussion, right?
	Right.
	That was awesome.
	Well, God bless you and God bless America.

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