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The Murder of Ashli Babbitt Guest Micki Withoeft (Ashli's Mother) | July 29 2022 | Ep 258
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Of all the things you saw during that ridiculous, lying, unconstitutional, inhumane session on television, you saw nothing about Ashley Babbitt's murder.
And what about John Sullivan?
How did he just happen to be there?
To get the key shot but then not take a shot of the guy who did the shooting and why is it they lifted her up after they heard the word gun twice?
Is it unfair to say it looked like she was being put up as a target?
Is that a possible hypothetical possibility?
Several homicide detectives told me they're sure of that.
Thank you, I got a knife.
I got a knife.
They are leaving. They are leaving. They are leaving. They are leaving. They are leaving.
We don't want to hunt them with a swivel or a saw. We just want to go home.
We want you to go home.
I'm recording and there's so many people.
Fuck the police!
We want you to go home. I'm recording.
And there's so many people.
It's just, they're gonna push their way up here.
Bro, I see people out there get hurt.
I see people out there get hurt.
I don't want to see you get hurt.
We will make a path, deadass.
That's what I'm saying, we'll make a path, bro.
Please, just let us make a path.
I want you to go home!
Go!
Let's go!
Get in there.
Get down.
Break out of the wall.
Let's fucking go.
Get down.
Get the gun.
He's got a gun.
He's got a gun.
Get down.
Oh!
Oh!
John's hired!
John's hired!
Back up!
Oh! Oh! Oh shit! John's hired! John's hired! Back up! Back up now! Back up!
Back up!
Move! Move! Move!
So what does this do?
This leaves more questions than answers about the significantly most important thing that happened that day.
The loss of human life, more significant than everything they're arguing about, which were legal arguments.
And in most cases, this committee has made it impossible to analyze it because they've had witnesses that have lied so much.
But the one thing we haven't analyzed is the murder of this woman.
And we're going to do it.
It's going to get done.
I'm going to devote whatever I have to, along with others, to make sure this investigation gets done.
And we will be doing a series of very, very intense analysis with homicide detectors to show you why it has to be done.
We may even devote a premium channel to that.
So that those people who are really interested can have the information and it just becomes impossible not to have a grand jury investigation.
First, you have my support, my love, the love of many, many Americans who understand completely what happened, not even necessary to explain it to them.
But we have many that have been the subject of propaganda, brainwashing, Lies, censorship, what else?
And I think it's so important that you're willing to come forward and help to talk on behalf of these people, given what's happened to you.
Thank you very, very much.
Thank you.
I appreciate your condolences and understanding the gravity of the situation and also, you know, appreciating my daughter for what she was.
You know, the American needs to understand that an election was stolen from America.
That's pretty unacceptable in modern times.
The coup was on November 3rd, the election, and then the people that showed up to redress their government were the gun-toting populace of the United States.
These are your Second Amendment and your First Amendment advocates.
These are the people in America that own guns.
They did not bring them.
They did not plan an insurrection with no weapons.
They came armed with flags and patriotic songs.
Watch the January 6th committee hearing, they would have you believe that suddenly the crowd went mad.
Well, the aggression was started by the Capitol Police.
There was no PA system that asked these people to disperse.
Their first clue that they weren't welcome any longer were flashbangs landing at their feet.
How did the police factor into this?
I mean, who was really instigating things?
Which side?
Well, there was plenty of police provocation.
The initial use of explosive munitions that day started at about 1 minutes 25 in the afternoon, where the police launched Explosives into the crowd which was pretty much just milling there and standing and these were very loud deafening and some of them had projectiles Hard plastic pellets that rained down and some had tear gas in them, but when they landed in the middle
They caused injuries and they got a very angry response.
That was a large crowd.
From what I saw, there was quite a few older people in that crowd and they fired munitions even far to the back.
People that wouldn't have known what was going on up front.
So this created an atmosphere that I think percolated through the rest of the day.
And they continued firing into this crowd well over an hour using those, what I would call, heavy munitions.
So I don't know what their strategy was in using munitions, which they had said they were not going to use the less than lethal force munitions and things like that on January 6th.
You know, the beating of American, unarmed American citizens.
Metropolitan Police may have played a role.
That of Roseanne Boylan.
Roseanne Boyland was part of a crowd that had gathered in the tunnel entrance on the Lower West Terrace as one of the entrances to the Capitol.
And the police, in trying to drive the people out, unleashed some sort of chemical irritant that appeared to displace the oxygen.
The witnesses described the feeling that the oxygen had been sucked out of the air and they couldn't breathe.
Because people could not draw breath in, they very quickly went unconscious.
Roseanne was one of the first to fall right at the tunnel entrance.
She went down.
A number of people who continued to push out landed on top of her.
In almost an instant she was under five or six people deep.
There's a duty on the part of police once they push somebody out of the tunnel or attempting to push them out of the tunnel and they fall.
To render aid or to get them up and get them out of the tunnel.
It's incumbent upon them to do that.
The video is quite shocking.
It looks like a waterfall going down the steps leading away from this entrance.
People just tumbling out.
And at that point, the police were pushing.
They were pushing everyone out after deploying the gas.
And so you had a pile of humanity.
And the people at the bottom, of course, were being crushed.
And Roseanne was terrified.
She was calling out, someone help me, someone help me.
And another bystander held her hand while she became unconscious.
My assessment of the use of gas in a tunnel, a confined space, is as follows.
The objective of the use of gas is to disperse or to arrest those who fail to disperse.
In a confined space like a tunnel, when you discharge gas, you suck up the oxygen.
You cause a panic reaction, which is increased breathing, which ingestation of gas causes pain and problems that cause people to pass out.
Roseanne's trapped under these people.
She collapsed when, again, the air had been sucked out of the room by some kind of chemical irritant.
How did the police react to her?
The crowd, and many, many people in it, were begging police to help.
They were pointing down to Roseanne on the ground, saying, we have someone down.
She needs help, please.
One gentleman, please save her, please, please.
And the reaction was silence.
There was no reaction.
And if there was any, it was one of the officers kicked a couple of fairly large gentlemen in the hindquarters and kicked them on top of her.
So she had more people land on her after that.
I saw individuals who were screaming for assistance to be given to her, that she was dying.
Please save a life.
Those kinds of comments.
I saw one individual who was struck with a baton and bleeding, who was screaming for help to be rendered to her.
And nothing was forthcoming from law enforcement.
The crowd was desperate.
It's not fun to watch somebody die.
And they knew she was in mortal peril.
And when their entreaties were ignored, it turned to anger.
Now we have this video footage of Roseanne Boylan being beaten by police.
At what stage did this take place?
Well, she had been down possibly five minutes, and there was a battle going on at the front of the police line because people appeared to be trying to protect her.
And one of the officers who was just new up to the front of the line, she had just come up, she attacked one of the protesters, or she struck him in the arm and struck him again and missed.
And then, inexplicably, she turned her physical assault on Roseanne Boyland, who had been unconscious for some time.
In analyzing the film, I saw a police officer from D.C.
Metro with a stick, it was a walking stick, strike a downed Roseanne Boyland three times.
I was horrified.
Twice in the head and once in the chest.
We don't train officers to hit people in the head with a blunt object.
It's to be avoided.
We teach other targets.
Arms, legs, things like that.
Moreover, we don't teach officers who are not trained to strike a downed person.
My conclusion in reviewing the officers' behavior was that they were untrained, they were not properly equipped, they were not properly commanded and supervised, and that they did a reactive, fear-struck or anger-struck tactics, where they punished people rather than arresting or dispersing them.
It is definitely a crime that was committed by Officer Morris when she struck the downed person.
What she should have done is again handcuffed the individual and rendered first aid.
Yes, it's assault in the color of authority with intent to do great bodily harm.
She was seriously attempting to injure Roseanne Boylan by striking her.
When she was in down position and unconscious.
The officer tried to continue, but she was swinging so hard the stick flew out of her hand, so she had lost her weapon.
And then a colleague of hers behind her pulled her back into the Capitol itself.
And the entreaties for Roseanne continued.
A gentleman stepped up, was holding a medical crutch, an aluminum crutch, to basically block police.
He started out his role in this by asking people to pray.
And you can see this on video.
He turns around and he's shouting at people to stop and pray because he thought people were dying.
And indeed, that's what turned out to be the case.
In a short while after that, he is at the front line.
This crutch just flies in from off camera, lands at his feet.
So he ended up picking that up.
He said, I'd try to make myself as big as possible to be a barrier between the police and the crowd. And as he did this, some of the bystanders
pulled Roseanne down the steps and started CPR. And he's charged with multiple counts. But
in the media and even in his own extended family, he got pretty widespread condemnation.
He was labeled as an insurrectionist in that he was assaulting the police.
There are people in this country that say, let's get over January 6th, let's move on.
We cannot move on. You know, American citizens were.
Unarmed American citizens were murdered, beaten, and unjustly jailed, where they still sit rotting, being denied their constitutional rights and due process.
Understand that if constitutional rights aren't guaranteed to every American, they're guaranteed to no American, because it might be you next.
And you don't have to agree with what they were there to protest.
You just have to agree that they had a right to protest.
And the day proceeds as under that assumption that American, it is American born right to protest.
People showed up a million strong.
They were led into the Capitol and then they were trapped into the, in the Capitol.
And then the Capitol police, there's footage, there's proof, there's, there's video footage of the Capitol police behaving badly that day, committing arrestable crimes.
Not just what happened to my daughter, which everybody can see as murder, you know, but, but to, to, To what planning, this is what we don't know.
I do know that maybe I'm the only person in America that's not watched my daughter die on the floor of the Capitol, but I do know Michael Byrd did continuously check his earpiece, that he did not have a safe backdrop when he shot, that he shot an unarmed American decorated veteran without so much as a warning, without so much as identifying himself or following any of the rules of use of force engagement.
I believe that Michael Byrd did not even identify himself as a person, much less a police officer, to my daughter.
Ashley Babbitt, when she made her way up to the window, she was surrounded by people who fit that definition.
In her immediate vicinity surrounding her, there were probably three or four.
Three or four suspicious actors and 20 suspicious actors total?
Yes.
In that room, in that area?
And one of them, who was an instigator, Zachary Alam, he was the one bashing the window with a black helmet and he knocked out several window panes.
And Ashley Babbitt kind of had a running spar with him.
She was screaming at him to stop.
She stepped forward and she punched him in the face.
Ashley Babbitt tried to stop this individual then, you're saying?
She did.
She got after the police officers who were there.
Why aren't you stopping this?
And, you know, she's been portrayed as a rioter, as a seditionist, but it's very clear in the video and the audio that she was very upset and trying to stop what was happening because they were bashing in the glass in the doors that lead to the speaker's lobby and right onto the house floor.
And then when she and her husband is When she climbed up in the window, there were two suspicious actors, one on either side of her.
that she needed to escape from that hallway.
That had gotten scary, the conditions.
The SWAT team was coming up the stairs, and she was afraid of crowded places.
So she decided, I have to get out of here.
When she climbed up in the window, there were two suspicious actors,
one on either side of her.
We don't have a clear enough video angle to see if either one of them pushed her up into the window
or helped her into the window, but they were in that position on either side of her.
And then when she was shot and fell back, again, these same several suspicious actors were right around her when she fell and was laying there.
So it raises all sorts of questions.
What role did they have?
How did they all get there at the same time along with all these other people?
Another suspicious point with all this is one of the individuals who breaks this glass is communicating with another one.
We can watch them in the video.
And then as the SWAT team is moving up the stairs, this individual goes back down the stairs and looks like he's changing his clothes.
Zachary Alam did that.
When he saw Ashley had been shot, he realized it.
You can see on the video, he physically responds.
He almost jumps back in the look of horror.
He was genuinely terrified.
It certainly seemed to be, even though he had created the conditions that led to that by the violence with the helmet and the smashed glass.
And he did go down the stairs and did not come back up but there were a number of people on the stairs that we haven't been able to identify and also haven't been charged and who were familiar enough with the police to to go up to them and say things or pat them on the back who they are we you know we still haven't figured out but for that many unidentified people to be in a space where there was a fatality like that
You know, it goes to our longer list of burning questions.
Ashley was security forces in the United States Air Force.
She was well versed in the use of force continuum.
If she had been told to stand down and see the weapon pointed at her, she absolutely would have.
You know, Ashley loved life and she loved this country and she lived her life accordingly.
How long was Ashley in the military?
Mickey, how long was she in the military?
Between her enlistment and her reserves, it was 14 years.
She did some time in the reserves after she got out, but she was deployed to the Middle East four times where she was injured on her 21st birthday, had a concussive injury where she had to be airlifted to Germany.
It tore her womb and left her unable to have children.
And yet she came home loving this country, loving this country and wanting to do what was best for it.
You know, and not only does she serve this country and dedicate her youth Did you live in the same town?
I mean she was a she was a good girl. And she was a good girl.
She was a good girl. She was a good girl. She was a good girl.
And she she separated from the military she got out of the military she opened a small business and lived as a solid
citizen of this country and an activist a Donald Trump supporter. Like I said a small business owner contributing
to small local businesses.
Helping local homeless vets, I mean actually was.
in East County and Ashley lived at the beach.
She lived in a beach community.
And at the time, were you both politically involved in the campaign and had developed views about what happened?
You know, I'm a little disappointed in myself to say I was like the rest of America, living my life and doing my thing and not paying really all that much attention to what's going on around me.
Ashley wasn't one.
She's like, Mom, You know, this is going on and that's going on.
And it was very much in her heart, the fact that the election had been stolen from Donald Trump, because she loved Donald Trump and believed that he had done good things for this country, as so many people believe.
And like I said, as an American citizen, you don't really have to be a Trump supporter.
You just have to know that as an American citizen, you have the right to protest and proceed with that premise.
You cannot tell a million people strong they didn't have a right to be there.
Some people did get out of control, but they're arresting people for simply being there, for carrying a flag on the National Mall, or for saying, yeah, I'm going to go to D.C.
on that day.
Another thing is the enhancement charges they're hitting these people with.
I guess their sentencing is according to a point system.
And this enhancement charge adds 20 points to their sentencing.
So you're talking about people that have already been sitting in solitary confinement for close to, I think it's like 547 days today.
And, um, they, they really have not done any, anything.
Some of them, not even an arrestable offense, you know, and then you have people like Colbert who came in and came out and really did the same thing.
A lot of them did.
And he got to go home.
You know, you have certain actors in this situation where they weren't punished at all.
And then we also realize that a lot of the men in jail are veterans who fought for our rights to sit out here and talk about them, or for people to say crazy things like, you know, they were insurrectionists, they attacked the Capitol.
You know, they fought for freedom of speech, and now they're being denied it.
They fought for constitutional rights, yours, mine, theirs, and they're being denied them.
You know, due process is pretty fundamental in the Constitution.
And pre-trial detention is not supposed to be punishment.
These men are being punished to the utmost extent.
They have little contact with their families.
They're not allowed medical care.
They have, you know, no haircuts, minimal showers, just complete isolation.
And oftentimes, they're forced to take plea deals.
And part of that plea deal is to say, oh, yeah, Trump's no good.
Shame on me.
I shouldn't have been there.
And it's really an effort to squash the movement and the freedom of speech.
They murdered four people that day.
My daughter, Roseanne Boylan, Kevin Greeson, Benjamin Phillips, and I believe in my heart, and many people do, they're responsible for the death of Brian Sicknick because they did not render him aid that day either.
Their original story that day was that four Four police officers had died or died within a day or so based on injuries incurred during the protest riot, and it turns out that none of that is true.
None of that is true, and yet they're still pushing it forward.
The January 6th committee hearing, they're still saying multiple officers died that day.
That's not true.
You know, and Roseanne Boylan died.
No, there's clear footage.
Of Metropolitan Police Officer Lila Morris overhand swinging on Roseanne Boylan until her weapon flew out of her hand.
And she was beating Roseanne Boylan when Roseanne Boylan already had blood coming from her nose, her mouth, her ears.
And some of our patriots that are charged with assault on a police officer are charged from the huddle in the tunnel where they were trying to save Roseanne Boylan.
And they did save Tommy Tatum.
And I've met Phillip Anderson, who, who was under that pile of people and pulled out by, by Jake Lang and, and, um, McAfee, I'm sorry, his first name's escaping me right now, but he was an off duty sheriff and, and, and he was actually thanked for his behavior.
And now they're trying to get this enhancement charge on him.
And these men, you know, when you add the enhancement charge to what they're already trying to railroad them into, that's virtually a life sentence for some of these 40 year old men.
You can't add 20 years on top of.
What you're already railroading them into.
And, and, you know, the 14,000 hours of missing footage, not missing footage, but we'll probably be missing by the time we end up getting to see it.
Something will happen to it.
It'll get Clinton or something, but, um, right.
The, uh, the footage will show what happened.
And that's why I feel, I feel strongly that we need to have some leaders.
Where are our Ted Cruz as our Rand Paul's any strong Republican to stand up And say that this is wrong, these are lies, and you shall not tell them to the American people.
Because at the beginning we were worried about J6ers not being able to get a fair trial in D.C.
Well, now the entire American jury poll has been tainted.
They can't get a fair trial anywhere because this has been piped into every American household.
When you turn on any news station, or even a station you don't expect news to be on at that time of day, it's prime time, and they're ramming it down America's throats, and I don't know how anybody's expected to get a fair trial.
Before this happened, before Ashley was killed, how was your knowledge of what was going on?
Were you not that involved?
Did you become involved afterwards?
I became involved afterwards.
Myself, like so many other people in this country, are very apolitical and we're happy to sit back and do things for us.
It's hard to be mad at people because I was content with my life before my daughter was publicly murdered.
Also, before my daughter was publicly murdered, I did not realize the Capitol Police operated with impunity because I would also, I would just like to make it clear that I do back the blue, that I have the utmost respect for police officers and so did Ashley.
But it is very important to know that the Capitol Police Department is not really a police department.
They're an arm of Congress.
They take their, their, their orders straight from, from Congress, from Nancy Pelosi.
and they're also not subject to external checks and balances.
Every single review done on the Capitol Police is an internal review, and it's like asking the dog
who got in the trash can.
The dog's gonna say, I didn't do it, the cat did it, and they tell you nothing unless they want to.
You know, Michael Leroy Byrd has prior excessive use of force issue.
He has left his loaded weapon in a public restroom.
All fireable.
Well, I don't know about the excessive use of force because, you know, the way that that was worked out.
But it is the charge.
But he absolutely should have been fired for leaving his loaded weapon in a public restroom.
That's careless and reckless behavior any way you look at it.
There's absolutely no question about that.
When Ashley went there, she had the view that the election was stolen.
Did she develop that view on her own?
Anybody force her to believe that way?
Propagandize her?
Brainwash her?
No.
Nobody forced Ashley to do anything.
One of the things, people have asked me, you know, would you have told her not to go?
Well, obviously in hindsight, knowing what happened.
Right, sure.
Ever it took to have her, but I would absolutely have never told Ashley not to go.
That's what made Ashley, Ashley.
She was a free thinking, independent spirit, you know, and I've said before, I'll say it again.
She was a quintessential American woman.
She was, um, loud and proud and capable serve this country.
Um, was a very task oriented person.
She did not view things as in her way, just challenges to overcome.
Um, she embraced life.
She embraced race challenges.
She was very.
She was a very pragmatic person where, you know, if you're not part of the solution, you're part of the problem mentality.
And I absolutely would have not tried to talk her out of anything that made her, her.
And do you know how she came to the view that the election was fraudulent or stolen?
The rollout.
You could kind of feel the rollout.
And then in the middle of the night when the vote thing happened, because we were during the election, we were, we were texting back and forth during the election and, um, You know, for what Trump's ahead, Trump's ahead.
And then all of a sudden, you know, we all went to bed and woke up and Trump lost.
Well, she never went to bed.
She stayed up and followed all that stuff.
And, um, yeah.
And by in the morning, she was like the election, they're going to, they're going to steal it from him, mom.
And, um, sure enough, they did, you know, and I hate to, I hate to think that this whole, because, you know, a year and a half ago, I had faith in my government.
I believe they had our, our best interest at heart.
I believe that we were a patriotic and, and, A republic, but we, we, my foundation has been shaken.
I believe in corruption from the top down.
And I don't know if this is all about Donald Trump or there's some other, you know, um, subversive message there, but no, I believe the corruption is from the top down.
I believe that the FBI is culpable in this situation.
I believe that the department of justice is culpable in this situation.
I believe Nancy Pelosi is as dirty as they come.
Um, And I believe Michael Byrd was never investigated.
They said, you know, he was cleared after an investigation.
There was never an investigation.
There was never a crime scene roped off.
They mopped my daughter up like trash, carried her out like a bleeding animal.
Ashley's womb was possibly survivable if they would have rendered her aid.
And not only did they not render her aid, they did not let patriots render her aid.
They just let her lay there and choke on her own blood and bleed out.
And you've not seen any of the films?
No, but you only have to hear it once.
No, but you are describing the films.
I'm not saying I've seen all of them.
I've seen three different versions and the main one that was filmed by the Antifa associate, John Sullivan, which is probably almost as if it was a precast murder mystery for NBC.
There's no question they did very little for her once she was shot.
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It requires justice, not just for you, Mickey.
It sure does.
It does require justice for you and your family and her whole family, but it requires justice for us too.
This can't be done to an American citizen without great penalty.
Otherwise, they've taken our country from us.
They have.
And it's been so squashed and so skewed by the media and swept aside that, you know, people, a lot of people, Aren't able to write it off as well.
After round and found out shouldn't have been there.
Um, should have complied.
I mean, and just dismissed an attitude as they don't know, because they've been told what to think because they've been told where to look and who to listen to.
But you know, Nancy says we can't see the, the, the, the footage, but I tell you what American Patriots have risen to the top and it is coming out.
The truth is bubbling over.
There's video evidence.
We just have to get it into the right hands.
And to do that, we need some strong leaders.
I would hate to say I've recently reached out to Ted Cruz, and I sure hope I don't have to add him to my list of people that doesn't have.
I doubt it.
I doubt he's got a lot of things on his plate.
But I but knowing but but knowing knowing him, if you can make him focus on the importance of this and the need for being done right now, he's got it in his in his belly to do it.
Well, my frustration is we're a year and a half in, okay?
This should be front and foremost in the hearts of a lot of Americans, because, you know, like I said, it's a year and a half past and people are, can you get over it already?
No, we cannot as a country get over this.
An election has been stolen.
American citizens have been murdered, beaten, and unjustly jailed and the key thrown away.
This is a huge deal.
This is not something you can just get over and pretend it didn't happen.
No, the consequences of that stolen election are Our country's going to hell.
Now we know it's possible, and so do they, which is a dangerous situation.
And people are complacent.
Where is the righteous indignation of the fact that an election has been stolen and so have lives?
But if you don't want to talk about the individual lives, let's talk about the liberties that have been stolen from people.
Did they murder the First Amendment that day?
Did they kill the MAGA movement and murder the First Amendment that day?
I don't know.
It's possible because I see people scared to speak up.
And it seems like it's only okay to have a voice if you have the right voice now.
Freedom of speech is guided freedom of speech.
You only have the right to say what you want if it fits the popular opinion.
It's like the unwashed masses came to the palace and they will pay and they are paying.
People's families are paying.
These American citizens in jail are our citizens that fought for us.
They are veterans, not all of them, but many of them.
And even if they're not, they're United States citizens and have a right to due process and a right to a speedy, fair trial and a right to their First Amendment and a right to protest and a right to a decent lawyer, because some of these lawyers are just railroading them.
And if you look at the I don't understand what the purpose of the January 6th hearing is, other than to ram this down the people's throat, because it's not showing any other views.
You know, there's no cross-examination.
Michael Byrd is their hero.
Let's put him on the stand and see some cross-examination.
He could barely stand up to Lester Holt's softballs.
I doubt if he could stand up to the cross-examination of a lawyer like Joseph McBride.
Let's put him up there and ask him some questions.
You know, like I said, he's your hero.
Let's hear from him.
How can you have a January 6th committee hearing without talking about Ashley Babbitt?
How can you have a January 6th committee hearing without talking about Roseanne Boylan?
They don't want to talk about it.
One of the reasons our prisoners are sitting in jail so long is because they don't want to give them their discovery because it's the same video that would incriminate them.
It's so one-sided and so biased and so unfair that it's almost beyond comprehension.
I wake up every day, and I've talked about this before, You have that moment of coming to consciousness in the morning where you're laying there and you wake up and for just that long, your kid's not dead.
When I wake up in the morning, just for a second.
But these things have happened.
And as a nation, we have to deal with them.
And it's just necessary, you know?
And my plan is to go to Washington, D.C.
and be on the steps of the jail and just protest on behalf of the J6 prisoners.
But what we need, like I said, a year and a half in, where are our people?
Where are our leaders?
Where are the people we hired to go represent us?
Because this is a whole populace of the country that's not being represented.
And nobody, you know, other than Marjorie Taylor Greene, Louie Gohmert, Paul Gosar, Troy Nels, Mark, Matt Gates, and maybe a few other people, everybody is silent on this issue.
And they sit back and watch Liz Cheney.
And, you know, I haven't watched the hearings, and the man's name is Ron, and the show up there escapes me.
But everybody is just sitting back and watching this narrative being pushed forward, pushed forward, pushed forward.
And words matter.
Let's stop using words like insurrection.
Like I said, it's a gun-toting populace that showed up that day.
They didn't bring weapons.
That is not a very well-planned, and it's not an insurrection.
It's a protest.
Let's stop saying insurrection because that's very prejudiciary.
And then let's stop using words like compound.
We raided the compound because adult children lived there.
That doesn't make it a compound.
It's a home.
You know, it's a home.
Words matter.
Let's use correct.
Let's at least demand that.
Let's at least insist that they stop calling it an insurrection when nobody's been charged with insurrection.
Stop saying it.
It's libelous.
It's libelous.
But the way it's been done, Mickey, first of all, there's no one at the hearing that can interrupt, object, protest, ask additional questions or cross-examine.
So you get a totally one-sided biased view.
In which you are not allowed to say stolen election, otherwise you're inciting violence.
Right.
You're not allowed to believe it was a stolen election.
And also, any witness that has a contrary viewpoint is completely ignored.
Uninvited.
Uninvited, uninvited, or if the view comes up, they are cancelled, dismissed, rejected, called liars.
That's not unbiased.
You know, Adam Kinzinger, he's one of our guys on the committee, and he donated to Michael Byrd's Give, Send, Go.
You know, he donated $200 to Michael Byrd's Give, Send, Go that he should recuse himself.
That's not unbiased opinion.
That is you supporting a murderer.
You're supporting somebody that he was never interviewed by the police.
He never...
Was never even questioned about the day.
You got to say, well, I'm upset and I don't want to talk about it right now.
And the guy said, okay, well, call me when you feel like talking about it.
That never happened.
You know, there was never any follow up.
There was never any, um, there was never any investigation.
Like I said, they said he was, he was exonerated after an investigation.
Well, I'd like to talk about that investigation because I don't believe it occurred.
Well, I mean, part of it that is very, very galling is the main people on this committee are the same people who, for three or four years, lied to the American people about Russian collusion.
Oh, absolutely.
And the people they're attacking are the same people who said there was no Russian collusion.
And it turns out that they were lying And the people who said there was no Russian collusion were telling the truth.
There were also the same people that said that the hard drive was Russian disinformation.
It turned out that you had to admit 16 months after the election.
It was perfectly accurate.
They had concealed it from the American people.
But it had already served its purpose.
Yes.
Even before you get to counting the votes, they stole the election.
They stole the election by depriving the American people of knowing that the hard drive proves that the President of the United States was a crook for 30 years.
And the American people didn't know that.
10% of the Democrats say they would have voted against him if they had known anything about the hard drive.
That would have made Trump the President.
It's the same people who were saying that.
They get 51 intelligence experts who say, Russian collusion.
Turns out the 51 experts are lying.
Donald Trump is telling the truth.
We've got the same lineup again.
We've got the same group of liars, the same group of people saying they're lying, and they're getting away with it.
And that's why we need people like you to speak up.
I appreciate that.
But once again, it's serving its purpose.
You know, if the lie gets you the results you want and then you get found out to
be a liar. It seems in this country that now it's like, well, who cares? You know, and I, I, I
don't want to get ahead of people, but just that we need to, to wrap, to clean some stuff up
before we move on.
We do.
You know, we really need to clean some stuff up.
Well, I'm glad you said that. And I'm glad you're going to go to Washington and help those people.
And...
And I'd like to continue to stay in contact with you as I develop.
I am doing an analysis of the actual murder, as you would do if you did a real homicide investigation.
With several very experienced homicide detectives.
And if you can take it, I mean, if you're okay with it, I would be honored to show you the results of that.
This is done by professionals who have investigated a hundred or a thousand homicides.
They don't care if you're a Republican, a Democrat, a communist or whatever.
You commit murder, you're going to get held responsible for it.
I hope so, Rudy.
And thank you so much for You know, following through with that, like I said, we will have a righteous indignation, not just for my daughter, but for the way Americans were treated that day and the lies that have been told about him.
It just blows my mind.
And I like when I go to D.C., I hope I am able to be of some help.
I hope that this situation and I hope that that some of the people in D.C.
that see your show will will realize that this is their job.
Somebody speak up and say something.
Somebody fight on behalf of these people.
We elected you.
We want you to go there and be our leaders.
Go lead.
Go do something.
Object to this farce of a show.
And it just... Hollywood, we don't need a Hollywood producer.
We have raw footage.
Demand to see it.
Demand to release it.
Demand that our prisoners get their discovery footage.
You know why they can't have it though?
Because it's going to incriminate people that they know it's going to incriminate them.
And that's why it's been so repressed, and that's why the hearings have been put off, and that's why they've been, oh, take this dirty plea deal, or take that dirty plea deal, so that the footage doesn't have to come out.
And our men that are holding out for trial are serving this country still, because they're not, some of them aren't taking these plea deals because they want to see it pushed to trial to expose this video and expose these people.
And if you watch the new, there are several good documentaries out, Day of Outrage by Jack Smith, I just watched it.
It's excellent.
Dave Summerall at Stop Hate has done several, I mean, well, two,
Writing History, Bloody Hill that just came out, and Epoch Times just did a documentary.
It's very informative. Very informative.
I just watched it. It is. It's excellent. I agree with you.
Right?
And it has some footage that speaks for itself.
You don't have to have an opinion one way or the other.
You see raw footage of people behaving badly.
And a lot of those people are Capitol Police.
They had no PA system to tell those people to go home.
Like I said, their first inclination they were no longer welcome was a flashbang that hit them in the foot, or the head, or the face, or their friend's head, or their friend's face.
Not everybody there that day.
Some people did get swept up in the emotion and behave badly.
I'm not saying there was a boy scout, but I still don't see anything.
I didn't see anything that would require 547 days in solitary confinement.
Oh my goodness.
Once again, repeat the names of the, uh, documentaries that have been done that shed light on this so people can see it.
And then I'll put their names up on the screen.
Day of Outrage.
Day of Outrage.
Okay.
Yes, right.
Bloody Hill from Stop Hate, Writing History from Stop Hate, Capital Punishment from Chris
Rangard, I think is his name, Rangard is his last name, and the new one from Epoch Times,
I can't remember exactly what the title is, about January 6th I think is what it is.
But Dave Summerall from Stop Hate, he's done tireless investigation.
He's got proof.
He's got it all.
Dave Summerall has footage that would exonerate so many patriots and incriminate so many FBI agents and so many... And perhaps I'm endangering him by even saying some of these things, but it's been extensive investigation on his... And what was his documentary?
He's done... Writing History was one of the first ones out.
Dave was on that.
He was writing history and Bloody Hill.
And I kind of have a fundraiser, but what I would encourage, if you could put this up, is if people don't know what to do for January 6th and how they can help people, there's multiple give-send-goes.
My new webpage, forashley.com, has a call-to-action page with an actual template you can write to your attorney general.
It also has a page that would show you how to reach out to prisoners.
Also, you know, like I said, individual gifts and goes.
Organizations like Patriot Freedom Project and Citizens Against Political Persecution.
There's a link to all those things.
But I would also like to say that if you want to see this country head in the right direction, support your independent journalists.
You know, we have people out there that are just out of the goodness of their heart and their own blood and sweat trying to maintain their own personal businesses and do this.
and get the truth out there and at their own personal expense. I know like,
but we do have good, good reporters. Cara Castronova. She's done a lot for the Gateway
Pundit. I've had, I've had, I've had Cara on and she's been excellent. She's an amazing human.
I am.
I'm sorry for the circumstances that I know her because I would rather just be living my regular little housewife life I used to have.
Kara's amazing.
Taylor Hanson, who was feet from my daughter.
He's been trying to get subpoenaed by the January 6th committee because he wants to tell his story.
They do not want to talk to him.
He's never been interviewed by law enforcement.
He's the one that was standing right by Ashley.
He has footage of him and Ashley walking down the hall before the crowd got there.
Talking to the police.
Hey, you need some water.
Does Taylor Hanson.
He's been trying to get himself subpoenaed, but they don't want to talk to him.
Why don't they want to talk to him?
Or people like him?
You know, J.D.
Rivera, he's been doing some investigative reporting.
He's an independent journalist that went there as an independent journalist and got arrested.
Sean Wittsman, just good, solid, investigative, put-your-neck-on-the-line reporting.
Well, we're going to see what we can do to get them the attention they deserve, and we'll be in contact with you, Mickey.
I can't tell you how much I appreciate you doing this, and we'll be back to you very, very shortly.
This is a matter of great urgency, and we'll get you some of those people you're talking about.
Okay?
Maybe you can interview me from the steps of the jail.
I will certainly consider that, and I'll talk to Cruz also.
Okay?
Okay, thank you.
Thank you so much.
It's been a pleasure.
God bless you.
It's been a pleasure for me, too, given the subject, to be able to cast this kind of light on it.
Because our people are being brainwashed, and it's our job to fix them, really, to fix their minds.
And you're very, very important to that.
God bless you.
Stay healthy.
God bless you.
Thank you.
You too.
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