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May 18, 2022 - Rudy Giuliani
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The Hero of Pennsylvania. Guest: Retired Colonel Doug Mastriano | May 18th, 2022 | Ep 239
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Hello, this is Rudy Giuliani, and I'm back with another edition and a very, very joyful and happy one of Rudy's Common Sense, because this only happens in America.
And that is the selection of Doug Mastriano as the Republican candidate for governor of Pennsylvania.
Against all odds, all kinds of attacks, And on an issue that is maybe one of the most important we're going to face so far in this century.
And that is what happened in the 2020 election.
So it's my honor to have Doug with me and to tell you that he is the one who gave us the first hearing of witnesses about election fraud.
Courts had turned us down.
Never before had courts turned down witnesses for preliminary injunctions.
But after about three or four, the president, myself, and the other lawyers realized there was something going on and the courts didn't want any part of it.
So we went to the state legislatures.
And many of them wanted to do it, but they were beaten down by the rhino majority leaders and speakers because the leadership of our party, with exceptions, doesn't really belong to our party.
They really are quizlings.
They were the people who cooperated with the Nazis.
They cooperate with the Democrat Party to ruin us.
It was the young people in the party who wanted to do it, but they were intimidated.
There's one guy that wasn't intimidated.
He's the guy that just got nominated.
He gave us our first hearing, and I will tell you, without it, we wouldn't be here today with all the evidence we have of voter fraud.
It would have been dead in its tracks.
Doug Mastriano.
Doug, how are you?
Thank you, Rudy.
What a great day in Pennsylvania.
I faced nine other candidates.
One of the candidates has outspent me eight to one, and we still dominated the whole thing.
Well, Doug, are you committed to an insane asylum?
Well, that's what I read.
They say you're, they say, gosh, I know you.
I got to really know you from Thanksgiving, you know, 2020 until now in your beautiful family.
You're one of the nicest people I know.
You're a war hero, decorated veteran, colonel.
You're a historian of some note, as I found out when you took me through Gettysburg.
You've written books about Gettysburg.
You're brave.
You serve your country.
You're patriotic.
You love God.
Oh my goodness, you love God!
You love your family.
You love Pennsylvania.
You love Gettysburg.
Never got a better tour.
You're extraordinarily intelligent.
You're a published author.
And I talk to you about politics and you have, I would say, mainstream American views that move toward the Republican side.
You know, lower taxes, smaller government.
More freedom?
More libertarian streak?
There's nothing extreme about you at all except one thing, which isn't extreme at all.
You saw very suspicious activity in the 2020 election.
So how does it feel?
I mean all your life you had to be seen as a pretty moderate What a bunch of ridiculous nonsense.
I'll just call it what it is.
paints you like on CNBC and the Republicans may lose because they selected an extremist
as candidate in Pennsylvania, an extremist Doug Mastriano.
What a bunch of ridiculous nonsense. I'll just call it what it is. It's a bunch of bullcrap.
So, Rudy, for 30 years in the army, I put aside my politics.
Nobody really knew where I stood on politics, right?
Because you don't want to have a politicized military.
So I put all that on hold.
I was going to ride off into the sunset after, you know, a great career.
We peak at Colonel in my career field.
Only three in my class made it to Colonel.
It was a great blessing.
And I was going to ride off into the sunset with a sweet retirement job, you know, making lots of money and lots of travel.
I was taking stock of my country after 30 years of service, and it was worse off than how I got it from your generation.
So when was that?
Give us the year about, about what year was that?
I retired from the army in November, 2017, and decided to run for office for the first time in December of 2018, December of that year.
So, you know, Rudy, it's kind of funny, you know, how much influence somebody can have on another person.
So I was at a radio station, still in uniform.
Discussing Russia and the threat that Russia and Vladimir Putin poses to our allies in Eastern or Northern Europe.
Off-air, I was talking to the young man that's about to interview me, and I'm complaining, you know what?
His name was Levi.
Levi, my country's in terrible shape.
It seems like my military service didn't make a difference.
All this sacrifice.
And this 24-year-old kid looked over at me and he said, well, Colonel, do something about it.
And that really hit me.
Like, yeah, you know, it's easy to complain.
I guess I should run for office and try to make a difference.
You know, that strikes me as very, very dramatic and people wouldn't realize that because here you devoted 30 years of your life to serving your country.
And I take it you've had a very fulfilling career and you were very satisfied with what you felt good about yourself doing that.
And now all of a sudden you come out and you see the chaos of 2017, right?
Without even knowing the details, you see a president being pursued for colluding with the Russians that now turns out to be a frame-up paid for by Hillary Clinton.
But you had to have had some instinct of that.
I was with Trump during all that time.
I know it was a complete lie.
And you had to see what they were doing to the country.
And I think you felt like you would have wasted those 30 years if you didn't continue to help your country.
That was exactly my frame of mind.
And, you know, so I'll ask people, if you're not participating, in politics by voting or maybe even running for office,
then that does nothing to help our country. So, you know, at a minimum, people have to get out
and vote and be informed. And number two is if you're not really satisfied with who you have at
the local, state, or federal level, maybe you need to run for office as well. Could I ask you
just a, I hate labels, but I have to ask you this. Are you an ultra mega?
I love it. It sounds pretty good to me, actually.
I mean, if you just translate it, ultra, make America great again.
How could you be too ultra, make America great again?
I mean, I'm willing to be super MAGA, 100% MAGA, MAGA forever.
Why has it, and I want your deeper view now, because People don't realize that there's a whole intellectual streak to you, Doug, which is quite deep, which is going to make you a great governor, by the way.
How did we—it almost reminds me of a line from The Godfather—how did it ever get this bad?
How did they get so far away from freedom of religion, freedom of speech, due process?
These are things—I mean, these are things liberals I disagreed with them, but I respected them for these things.
They used to defend those as much, sometimes more than us, and now they just keep violating them, you know.
We have the Ministry of Disinformation right out of Orwell.
How did this happen?
How did they go?
It almost seems like it happened in like a few years.
They just, they went almost over to, I mean, Marxism.
It does seem like the left suffers from a psychological disorder called transference, where they suffer from these psychological disorders, but they blame it on someone else.
They say that I'm far right, but no, I'm very mainstream.
Obviously, I would not have had a top secret special compartment and information access for 30 years of my career if I had any extremism in me.
I mean, those are access to some of the nation's most sensitive and damaging secrets there.
And I had them 30 years and eight background reinvestigations.
But for them, they've gone extreme.
They're talking about killing babies in a birth canal and even after they're born.
They're the same people that masked up your kids without scientific reasons.
That's the same Democrat Party that took the sick, put them back in the homes, killing 16,000 in Pennsylvania homes.
That's the same party that knew that was a bad idea.
Dr. Levine made that decision.
And Levine's own mom was in a home and thought it was okay to smuggle mom out into a hotel, but leave everyone else's parents to die alone.
That party's extreme.
They're teaching our kids that they hate each other.
They're teaching your kids to deny science and their biology and gender.
And that's extreme.
And so that's why they're going to try to do labels on me.
It's not going to stick.
I'm calling them out.
And how dare they stand in judgment of mine or anyone else's religion?
This is America.
And, you know, Rudy, back in the 70s, if I disagreed with somebody of a religion or something, it would be like, that's cool, dude, whatever you're into.
Now it's like the left will kill you if they disagree with you.
You know, metaphorically speaking, that's Shakespearean language, lefties.
It's a metaphor.
It's okay.
So I'm calling out the Washington Post and these other people that are mocking people's faith, whether it's mine or other people.
I do not accept bigotry and intolerance and meddling and hate speech against people's religion.
And I will not talk to any reporters who are haters, who hate people's religion.
That's an insult to William Penn, who founded my state.
He himself went to jail three times for his Christian faith in England.
He came to Pennsylvania, founded this state, wanted no one to suffer for what they believed or didn't believe, and now it seems like we've gone back.
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The two bedrocks of our democracy, and there's a lot to it, are freedom of speech and freedom of religion.
I believe that's why they're in the First Amendment, not the Fifth.
And I believe those were the things that brought the people here in the first place.
Because the Huguenots were being tortured for their religion.
The Presbyterians were being tortured by the Church of England.
Catholics couldn't exist.
They had to find their own colony in Baltimore.
They were burning witches at the stake.
And they weren't allowed to speak their mind about the grievances that they had.
And I believe it is quite clear that those are our primary sources of freedom.
And they are under severe attack.
If they haven't actually been largely removed, I wonder sometimes if our freedom of speech is as free as some of the dictatorships that exist around the world.
When you consider the coverage that Silicon Valley, the main networks, and the Democratic Party have, you know, I can't get on Fox.
I have probably been Fox's most often guest for 15 years.
I also played a role in getting Fox put on television in New York.
I was on Hannity so often, I could have been a paid guest, but I refused to get paid.
And now, they will not allow me on Fox.
Because I think they're intimidated by Dominion.
Because I'll say the election was stolen.
I'm sorry guys, you may not believe me, you may believe me.
It is my true belief.
Backed up by 3,000 affidavits that are about 20 yards away from me right now.
And I'm not going to give that up.
I mean, you could burn me at the stake.
I'm not going to tell you the election wasn't stolen.
I know it was.
And why am I not, even if I'm wrong, why am I not entitled to that belief?
And that's the crux of the point.
And you know, Rudy, that we're even discussing this, that, you know, you know, I'm concerned about freedom of religion.
You're concerned about freedom of space, as am I.
And that's why that's in the First Amendment in the Bill of Rights.
It's called the First Freedom.
The First Freedom was religion because that's what people suffered the most from in Europe at the time.
And so when they came to Pennsylvania and else in the other original colonies here, they sought religious freedom.
And it's just ironic to me that we have leading left-wing outlets that used to respect people's beliefs, whatever they were, now thinks it's okay to attack and mock and ridicule.
And I'm not standing for it.
I'm calling them out and I won't deal with any reporters that peddle in hate speech against people's religion.
That's unacceptable to me.
It's so disrespectful I can't even describe it.
So I see your election yesterday as a quintessential fight for American freedom.
If we don't win it, we have a real setback.
If we do, I believe that it's going to fuel us into 24 with real focus on what has to be done.
But what I want you to do now, I want you to address yourself to the, I'm not going to call them mundane issues because they're very important, but to the issues that really trouble Pennsylvanians, because I think this proves beyond any doubt that you're not an extremist.
You're just a very sound, sensible, common-sense person with a lot of capability and courage, and you can actually solve these problems.
What are the big issues that face the people of Pennsylvania that you feel you have to fix or begin fixing in your first term as governor?
So the big three.
The first one, you know, is a bit broad.
I don't think I'll dive in too much, but it's restoring people's basic freedoms.
So people can Get the government off their backs and out of their wallets, as Ronald Reagan said in the 80s.
I mean, it's that simple.
You're rolling the government back.
Smaller government, less taxation, so you could live your life as you see fit.
Number two, of course, is expanding our energy sector.
Right now, of course, we're buying Russian oil and gas, which is insane.
About $600 million a year right here.
Now, when we were just independent a year and a half ago, Pennsylvania can supply most Much of the nation's energy needs.
Right now, we're number three in energy production.
My goal, my first year or so, if possible, to make us number one in the nation for energy production.
We have eight years of policies that have put the wraps on our energy production in Pennsylvania.
We're the number two producer of natural gas, number three in coal.
Companies are leaving our state for Republican states because of so much restrictions and taxation and fees, as they call it, the Democrats.
So day one, I'm going to roll on that back there and opening up our energy sector.
That's better for America and better for Pennsylvania.
And of course, election integrity.
That's ever since late 2020.
People of Pennsylvania, they want to find out what happened so it never happens again.
They want to be able to walk into a polling booth knowing that they have an equal say and an equal vote with anyone else who votes legally.
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Now, let's go back to the energy sector for a moment.
When was the cutback made in your ability to be overall number three, number two in gas and number three in oil?
When did that take place?
It started out when Tom Wolf won the election and came in office in 2016, I believe.
I'll do my math here real quick.
A 2014 so 2015 he start every year.
He proposed a tax increase or a fee or more regulations or shutting or restricting where they can drill and what have you in 99.9% of the wells are safe.
By the way, that's Russian disinformation about how unsafe they are.
That really is Russian disinformation.
I confirm that.
And so every year, Tom Wolf would put it.
Our governor, Tom Wolf, would put another tax or fee or restriction.
And that built up at eight years on, it's just too hard to keep these plants open. Although we have a
high demand for energy right now, I have plants closing this year and next year in the southwestern
part of the state and moving to Republican states. Yeah, a lot of it is long-term commitment,
because to do that you need confidence that this is going to go on for five or ten years,
so you put the capital capital in.
I used to in my prior life, please don't hold it against me, but I used to represent the oil and gas industry because my main law firm was Bracewell Giuliani, main office Houston, Texas.
So I'm familiar with the development of fracking.
And then when fracking found the natural gas behind the oil, it was like one of the greatest discoveries ever.
And it is conceivable.
If you ever did the prospecting we could do in the United States, we may be number one.
We may be.
We're certainly two or three.
Changes everything.
Trump turns America over to Biden.
Energy independent.
By a little bit, he's just got us there the last two years, but ready to grow.
He turns us right back and you can't tell me that doesn't cause Putin to invade Afghanistan.
The two things have an absolute connection to each other, particularly his weakness in Afghanistan and his giving him, giving Russia a pipeline and taking away ours.
So energy is so important and you've always, you were the coal state.
Right?
A hundred years ago, you were the steel state.
They took it all away from you and sent it over to China and Russia.
Destroyed jobs and destroyed families.
Now, I gotta ask you a little bit of a personal question.
Right above you, like three feet above you, at the northern border of Pennsylvania, is a place called New York and a city right near it called Binghamton.
The shale and the vein that you're tapping starts all the way up in Syracuse, New York.
We've never been able to touch that under Democrat governors.
There are people there that could be millionaires.
There's a state that could have a flourishing economy like North Dakota.
And liberal Democrat governors refuse to allow those people to take advantage of the millions that lie below their ground.
Your example could make a very, very big difference if we elect a right Republican in New York.
And I think I know who he is.
I would love to see that happen too.
I think my son, Andrew Giuliani, has been into this issue since I've been into it, which is 10 years.
And it happens on day one.
I mean, we're also buying this oil and gas elsewhere.
Whatever you believe on climate change, we're buying it from China and Russia.
So they are doing whatever they're doing to the environment they're doing.
It might as well be done by us more safely, more carefully, and our making the profit.
This is an absurd way of thinking.
And does Shapiro embrace this?
Yeah, oh yeah, he's a firm believer in all the Democrat radical talking points such as climate change and what have you.
It's so absurd, you know, Mr. Mayor, that in 2018 there was a terrible cold snap and Boston, Massachusetts was running out of energy to heat the homes.
And instead of buying their energy off of Pennsylvania because of ridiculous Democrat state policies against pipelines, New Jersey and New York being two of them, Boston, Massachusetts actually imported two ships from Russia and Siberia, 4,000 miles away to provide energy to heat the homes.
I mean, right in just a couple of states down, you have Pennsylvania.
So my vision, of course, is to see about two modernized liquefied natural gas terminals, one in Lake Erie, one off of Philly on the Delaware River there, so we can export this if there's no pipelines to get it across state borders.
And so either way, we're going to get our energy resources out to people.
It's better for America, it's better for Pennsylvania, and it's better for our allies as well.
Well, now during this campaign, did you get pressure to run away from Donald Trump?
When I was interviewed by one lobbyist, dark money group that they, yes, they wanted me to turn my back on him, you know, in so many words.
And I said, no, you know, he's a good man.
He was great for America.
I respect what he did in our country, respect how he dealt with the crap and the lies.
And so I stood with him.
Was there pressure from the party bosses to do that?
Actually, not from the party bosses.
Now, hats off to the state party.
They decided in February, Mr. Mayor, not to endorse somebody for governor or Senate.
And that's the first time since 1978 where the people had the ultimate say.
And how about some of the Some of the leadership of your legislature that I found to be worse than the Democrats to deal with.
Some of them want to just move on.
Hey, Doug, let's stop looking back.
Let's just move on.
Leave 2020 alone.
They were worse than that, Doug.
Didn't they take away a lot of your privileges?
So I was a day away from having a vote on subpoenas to get this forensic investigation done at long last, you know, nine, 10 months later, finally got to that point.
And yes, the Senate president pro tem stripped me of my committee chair, sabotaged my vote, called up the Republicans not to show up, it was canceled, took away my staff in Harrisburg, kicked me out of caucus.
And that was not a surprise.
I had been threatened if I moved forward that that would happen.
And then I can go on and tell you that he continued to lie through people to President Trump that he really supported him.
Thank God the President saw through that.
But there was a major effort to do that.
Part of the problem is our party, Doug.
It's not just their party.
They do it, we enable them.
You know, if we didn't enable them, if we didn't enable them, Your legislature, being Republican-dominated, would have sent a majority House and Assembly resolution asking that that vote be counted again.
And because of the leadership, that got blocked and not done until the last minute.
So, I don't know if it's going to do us any good to win with rhinos.
I think our country is going to be just as bad off.
This is our opportunity to put the hands in people who really care about America.
It's critical this election here in Pennsylvania, Maryland, and New York.
It's really important we choose wisely in a general election.
And I think you have only one obstacle to overcome.
Just letting people hear you.
You see, now, I heard you on Bannon right before this.
You were fabulous.
Right now, if you're an extremist, you're the greatest actor in the world.
You're a normal man with the normal concerns that most Americans have, except, I will say this about you, there are a couple of things about you that are a little bit different.
You're extremely bright, you're very intellectual, and you have a large pair of, you know what I'm talking about.
And that's what we need because when you go in there and you want to lower taxes, lower the budget, stop the schools from trying to indoctrinate children into changing their gender, and how many other things, you're going to get castigated on all of that.
And I know you're going to react to it the same way you reacted to it during the campaign.
Because you're a strong man, you have your own conscience, you're going to look into your conscience, you're going to say, Bull.
I'm going to do the right thing and I'd rather get thrown out of office knowing I did the right thing.
That's the kind of man you are.
That's what we need in office.
And at some point I'm going to come back to you and see if I can get you to endorse my son, Andrew, who's just like you.
And the two of you, and the two of you together, as Bannon said, when you went off the show, if they had Mastroianno in Pennsylvania and Giuliani in New York, we could be Saudi Arabia.
Yes.
And we wouldn't need Saudi Arabia or Russia or China or any of the others bums that we have to rely on.
Well, This has been a great race.
Probably one of the most satisfying I've seen since the great disappointment of, you know, the last election.
So I'm extremely happy, extraordinarily confident, and anything you need from me and our mutual friends, you know, we're delighted today.
This was the best victory of the night, by far.
It was fantastic.
How do Americans get money to you?
Let me tell you this.
If you win, In Pennsylvania.
And Andrew wins in New York where he's facing all anti-Trump people who would not mention Trump's name at the convention.
And they were told by the party chairman not to mention Trump's name.
They were told that the only way we're going to win in New York is running away from Trump.
That drives me crazy.
So, if you win in New York, a Trump person wins in New York.
And you win in Pennsylvania.
And we get a couple of others like we've seen.
This is a turnaround.
Imagine Trump Republicans winning in Pennsylvania or in New York.
The world changes.
And I think our people really feel that way.
I think you cut through the brainwashing.
And you're going to continue to do it.
Thank God we have means to reach people around the traditional media.
We have your show right here.
We have other media available.
So they no longer have a monopoly.
And I talk directly to people on social media as well.
So if they want to have access, give us a fair shake.
Don't advocate for the other party.
Be a journalist, be fair and balanced.
Don't attack, you know, someone's faith or beliefs.
Don't mock it because you don't like it.
And I'll talk to you.
But if you're not going to behave, you know, media, then I'm going to take the message straight to people as Donald Trump did.
So there's that.
If you get before the people.
You're going to win.
I agree.
People who see you, first of all, there's an advantage to have been so ostracized.
The expectation game.
When you come in, they expect some raving maniac to walk in.
And they see a reasonable guy who can talk about anything, who's got a balanced view, a balanced family, a balanced life, and all you want is an America like our founding fathers wanted for us, and the one we improved over the years.
So, Doug, it's going to be a long campaign, but you've got the energy for it, and you're going to win it.
You're going to win it for America.
Thank you.
And thank you for being my friend.
I appreciate it.
Thank you for saying yes to President Trump and me when we asked for a hearing.
Nobody else did.
Just you.
God bless you.
Thank you.
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