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Feb. 12, 2020 - Rudy Giuliani
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Proving Extensive Corruption & Criminal Conduct by the Biden Family Enterprise | Common Sense Ep. 6
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Welcome back to Rudy Giuliani's Common Sense.
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So let's do it.
This episode is going to continue with the trial in the form in which we're capable
of conducting it, involving the Bidens and the collusion of the Democrats.
In Ukraine, which as you can see now is growing and very substantial.
I'm going to call this episode, no excuse for not investigating the Bidens because there is no excuse other than corruption.
So far in the episodes, very briefly, you've seen, you've seen evidence in the form of witnesses, tapes, videos, And we have more to go.
You've actually seen the vital part of the case.
This is a, at core, two witness, one smoking gun document, the money laundering document, and a deadly video in which there's a confession by Joe Biden.
So clear that, again, it's astounding.
That confession didn't lead to an immediate investigation when he said it, except for the double standard that we have in Washington and the corrupt, sick inability of the press to pick up major crimes by Democrats and to exaggerate minor things for Republicans.
There is no doubt a great deal of resistance in investigating this case.
The moment Way back in November of 2018, that I was shown that Joe Biden was involved in this case.
I said almost spontaneously, well, it wasn't quite dark on it.
It was a word similar to it.
Why does he have to be involved in this case?
Because they are going to kill me when it comes out because he's one of the protected ones.
He's one of the protected ones like Hillary Clinton.
Who was protected from, you know, smashing up 13 cell phones, bleach bidding a, bleach bidding a server.
I can't even, I can't even say these things and understand why she wasn't prosecuted.
And destroying 33,000 emails.
And she wasn't prosecuted.
Fix.
I knew they'd do the same thing for Biden because he was their hope against Trump.
Although at the time, it was two years before the election, he looked to me like he couldn't walk across the street, couldn't make it to the finish line.
I didn't think of him as a presidential candidate.
I know they'd love to say that, but I didn't.
But there's so much resistance to investigating this.
I've been in and out of the prosecuting business for some time, and I think I'm not bragging if I say I've had a lot of success at it.
This is the clearest case of bribery, extortion, money laundering.
And if you'd like to take me beyond Ukraine to China, Iraq, Pennsylvania, I could do a RICO case here against the Biden family enterprise that was shaking down people for 30 years selling Joe's office.
Every time Joe was the point man, the family got rich.
Joe didn't know.
Like Kate Corleone?
Or do you think I'd be able to squeeze out a little evidence that he knew?
I think I would.
It is disgusting that this is not being investigated.
Recently, the following statement was attributed to a United States senator who I respect.
But this gives you an example of the ridiculous thinking trying to avoid the obvious.
The senator said, Let me quote her accurately.
Take very cautiously anything coming out of the Ukraine.
Thank you, Senator.
Of course you take everything cautiously that comes out of the Ukraine, because it's filled with corruption, which the President recognized.
And it's the reason for all the hesitation and difficulty that the Democrats disputed.
But Senator, could you please learn the facts of the case and not just talk to protect another senator?
This case does not come out of the Ukraine.
It comes out of the mouth of Joe Biden.
I don't have to rely on a single piece of Ukrainian anything to prove that Joe Biden committed bribery when he was Vice President of the United States and it is an outrage that he's not being investigated for it because our press has gone corrupt and our law enforcement is scared of being criticized By the Biden press for a political prosecution.
It is not a political prosecution.
It's a prosecution for a high crime at the highest levels of two governments, the vice president of a country and the president of the country selling out their countries.
And then a trail of millions and millions of dollars crookedly being made by the Biden family.
I don't care if you're a United States Senator, I don't care if you're the head of the biggest club, and I don't care if you're the most important person in Washington.
When you do that to my country, when you sell out my country as often as the Bidens did in China, in Ukraine, in Iraq!
You heard it all in the last podcast, didn't you?
I don't have to do it again.
Every time Biden was point man, the Biden family made millions.
And Biden knew about it.
That is bribery.
In fact, when I go through the bribery statute, they violated almost every different subsection of the bribery statute.
Because each one of the bribes is somewhat different.
Fascinating case.
Fascinating RICO case.
The words that Biden says in January of 2018 before the Council on Foreign Relations, my gosh, we've heard them often, often enough, haven't we?
But I want you to listen to them, I want you to listen to them one more time.
Shortened version.
I just want you to remind you of how clear his admission, his confession is.
And I was supposed to announce that there was another billion-dollar loan guarantee.
And I had gotten a commitment from Poroshenko and from Yatsenyuk that they would take action against the state prosecutor, and they didn't.
So they said they were walking out to the press conference.
I said, no, we're not going to give you the billion dollars.
They said, you have no authority.
You're not the president.
The president said it.
I said, call him.
I said, I'm telling you, you're not getting the billion dollars.
I said, you're not getting the billion.
I'm going to be leaving here.
I think it was, what, six hours?
I looked.
I said, I'm leaving in six hours.
If the prosecutor's not fired, you're not getting the money.
Oh, son of a bitch.
Got fired.
And they put in place someone who was solid.
The last time we analyzed this, we analyzed it under the first subsection of the bribery statute.
I don't want to complicate the legal issues here, but all the lawyers are fighting.
Is it bribery with Poroshenko, an official that could be bribed?
Guys, I don't know, go back to your law school criminal justice 101 bribery, huh?
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There's a second section under the bribery law.
And I'm going to put it up there so you can see it.
I kind of broke it down to simplify it.
Here's how you prove beyond any doubt from that tape that Biden committed the serious federal crime of bribery while he was the vice president of the United States.
And he did it with the president of another country.
He dishonored our country and their country at the highest levels.
The statute goes something like this.
You see that first line.
Being a public official, I'll read the first side, seeks anything of value for any other person in return for, A, being influenced in the performance of any act, B, being influenced to commit any fraud on the U.S.
Now, let me show you how simple it is.
Here's how I prove it in trial.
Here's the chart I put in front of a jury.
And there's enough evidence with the confession and then the Ukrainian corroboration to prove it beyond... to prove it, okay?
Let's start.
Being a public official.
Yes, he fits that.
He was the Vice President of the United States.
Seeks anything of value.
Yes, he was seeking the dismissal of the case of the prosecutor who was investigating his son His son's boss, who was paying his son millions, and his son's company that had stolen billions.
Pretty good.
That's pretty good anything of value, huh?
For any other person.
Doesn't have to just be for yourself.
Yes, the other persons were his son Hunter Biden, and Mykola Zlochevsky. Let's show his picture and name
again because it's hard to remember Zlochevsky. So we'll interrupt the bribery there. Okay,
that's Mykola Zlochevsky. Guy stole 5 billion from Ukraine in 2014. He is now sitting somewhere in
Switzerland, Monaco, able to go back to there, and he's kept all but about 200 million of the 5 billion
thanks to our former vice president Joe Biden.
Then it goes on to say, in return for, A, being influenced in the performance of any official act, Yes, he was influenced in the performance of approving the $1 billion loan guarantee as he explains to you.
Or, you got an alternative.
You can convict him both ways.
Or, being influenced to commit any fraud on the United States.
Dispensing a loan guarantee of $1 billion that's supposed to be dispensed on the merits in order to get a prosecutor fired is a fraud on the United States, ladies and gentlemen, of the jury.
So, God, I tried a lot of cases.
I don't ever remember one this clear.
My God, if this were a case on a highway commissioner or a congressman or any Republican, you would have been prosecuted two years ago.
They've been investigated by the Justice Department, prosecuted.
My God, cases much less than this get prosecuted.
You've got to ask yourself why, what's wrong with us?
Don't we have to cure that corruption?
And again, to respond to the senator, who we will not name, who's worried about Ukrainian influence on the case, You don't need any Ukrainians for that.
That's American language, that's an American vice president, and that's an American statute.
I could analyze three, four more statutes for you to show you how he violated them.
I don't want to bore you.
So, the issue is not really having to look much further than the fact that when Donald
Trump was first alleged to have been involved in something wrong in the Ukraine, I hope
you remember that the headlines were that he bribed, in essence, President Zelensky.
And the bribery...
And the bribery was something like, Trump refused to give the President of Ukraine military aid if he didn't investigate The collusion in the Bidens.
That created mass hysteria.
Headlines all over the place.
Nobody even waited to ask Trump.
Did he know?
Didn't he know?
Biden always gets to say, I didn't know.
And then it goes away.
Case of Trump, headlines immediately.
Trump bribed the president of Ukraine.
Impeach him!
Shoot him!
Get rid of him!
Do something to him!
That created mass hysteria for a couple of days.
Yet it was entirely untrue!
He didn't threaten him.
He didn't withhold aid.
We have the conversation.
Most important thing is Zelensky said I wasn't even pressured about ten times.
It's entirely untrue.
Yet it caused an impeachment and, thank God, an acquittal.
Yet Biden said exactly, exactly, exactly the same thing.
He said, I told the president of the same country, different president, the crooked one, Poroshenko, I told the president of the same company that I'm going to withhold your needed $1 billion loan guarantee if you don't fire a prosecutor.
Isn't that the same thing?
Vice president, president, make a difference?
The vice president, the president, pressuring the president of a foreign country to take an official action and holding back needed money for the government to bribe or extort.
Clear as the nose on your face, except in the case of Trump, The tape, not the tape, the transcript proves it didn't happen.
In the case of Biden, it proves it did happen and Biden is still running around free.
Every other American would be under investigation by now and probably indicted by now.
Not probably, let's cut the nonsense.
He would be indicted by now and it stinks.
Not only that, not only that, Biden makes this statement in front of very distinguished men and women.
The Council on Foreign Relations.
They are very, very smart.
They will all tell you that.
And they are all very, very well educated.
They will tell you that.
In fact, the first thing they will ask you is, what school did you go to?
And if you say school of hard knocks, they kind of look down on you, you know, or if you say any school other than about five, but they're very smart.
I'm not, I'm not trying to be sarcastic.
I'm not trying to be sarcastic.
They're very, very smart.
So Biden admitted in front of them, flat out bribery, what they accused Trump of and everybody picked it up like that.
And not a single one of our geniuses on the council of foreign relations sat there and said, Gee, that's kind of funny.
First of all, when did I ever hear about a vice president or a president trying to get a prosecutor fired?
Usually when you're trying to get a prosecutor fired, you're trying to fix a case.
It's usually an inherently suspicious situation.
Hmm.
When did I ever hear that before?
And, uh, How about our enterprising, energetic, fearless press?
Did any of them pick it up?
When Trump said it, you saw the headlines.
Wow!
Whoo!
World was over.
When Biden said it, I guess they were sleeping during the speech.
The straight-out admission of violating The bribery statute, about as clear as it can get, didn't mean anything to them.
And how about our intrepid law enforcement that treats everybody the same?
Republican and Democrat and da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da.
Right there in front of their noses.
And the U.S.
Attorney's Justice Department.
Biden admits bribery in front of your face and you don't know it?
You can't pick it up?
You're too insensitive to democratic crime?
You can't pick up bribery at the highest level of two governments?
What has happened to us?
How could one statement by Trump lead to all these headlines?
And then the same statement essentially.
Even though Trump's statement was false, Biden's statement was true.
I'd like to see how many headlines that led to.
This is a terrible thing.
This is not a usual situation.
This is a terrible place our country is in right now with this double standard.
You know that if the name were Trump and Trump Jr.
and President Trump had said that, you know, Even the senator who wants to avoid going after another senator.
You know if it were Trump or Trump Jr., you know it would be treated totally differently.
Headlines the next day, grand jury within days, special prosecutor probably, Nadler and Schiff, and if they still have the energy, you know, Have hearings and even if it turned out to be untrue, they'd have hearings anyway.
And it's Biden and it's completely forgotten.
Do you think that's fair?
Do you think that's what America should be all about?
And do you think we should just let this go?
Or if we just let this go, doesn't it just continue to happen?
How many more Clintons?
And Biden's walking away from extremely serious federal felonies.
Are we going to get?
How many fraudulent Clinton foundations are we going to get?
And that piece, that whole piece of evidence is also overpowering.
That was a cash cow for the Clinton family.
And now we got the Biden family enterprise taking in millions every place Biden is a point man.
And we got the... He's one of the people.
I'll tell you what, though.
Ukrainians aren't stupid.
At all.
Ukrainians are well-educated, intelligent people, and have been somewhat maligned as a group because they have some corrupt people.
Hey, by the way, when they look at us, and they look at Biden and Clinton, I don't think they have too much of a view of us, either.
I mean, our leaders under Joe Biden weren't doing too much better.
Joe Biden was running an operation where Gosh, almighty pay-for-play has been ratcheted up into millions and hundreds of millions of dollars.
And this case gets opened up.
You're going to find out about that.
It's another reason why the Democrats are fighting to the death not to open up this case.
But every Ukrainian knows that Biden was involved in corruption.
I think Teleshenko So, let me show you why this is a matter of national security.
Did everyone know that Biden had threatened Poroshenko with cut off in money if he didn't
fire Shokin?
Within the government and people outside the government, some did know and everybody knew
that Biden was the pressure point on firing Shokin.
So let me show you why this is a matter of national security.
One of the major issues between the United States and Ukraine, one of the major things
about Ukraine and why it's so important to us is it's right there, right next to Russia.
Thank you.
It's a place Russia has for a thousand years wanted, the breadbasket of Europe.
From our point of view, and the point of Western Europe, it's a hedge against, an important hedge against Russia.
Of course, they've been invaded.
They're invaded by the Russians, they were killed by the Russians, and the Obama administration, and Joe Biden as the point man, He got a lot of money, but he failed in his mission to push the Russians back.
In fact, he wouldn't even give the Ukrainians lethal weapons.
What are they going to do?
Here are the Russians' big guns.
It took President Trump to come in and give them the lethal weapons.
But how are we going to get them to set up an honest government?
I don't mean like perfectly honest, but I mean not systemically corrupt, which is what they are.
And here's why that affects us.
They need 400 million for military aid.
I don't know, maybe 100 million gets to the military.
There's a report I'm going to show you in the next episode where 5.3 or 5.7 billion dollars in aid
to Ukraine is not properly accounted for.
I didn't say $5 or $50.
I said $5.3 to $5.7 billion in aid.
So anytime you're given a money for a critical purpose, you don't know if it's going to be used for that purpose.
So getting them to be honest and accountable bears on our national security because they cannot be very effective as a wedge between Russia It's basically they're not doing anything but stealing money.
And we're stealing money with them.
So President Trump was absolutely correct in bringing this up with Zelensky.
And what they did to him is horrible.
It's against the interests of our country.
You cannot get Ukraine, to be honest, if you don't hold Joe Biden accountable.
Because as you heard, they all know He was involved in corruption, and he went there for 13 trips, which is excessive for a vice president.
Who knows what he was doing there?
You may find out that it's a lot more than you know about.
He would go there and he'd say, Ukraine must be corrupt, if you could remember the sentence.
Sometimes he'd say Russia or Budapest or, you know how he is.
But he would say, Ukraine has to be corrupt!
You know what they say to their breads, under their breads?
Maybe America, Joe, you should start first.
Everybody in the Ukraine knew about the sun.
Everybody in Ukraine knew that the sun was working for the most crooked man in the Ukraine, who had fled to Monaco.
Everybody knew he was getting millions, not the 50,000 a month that the New York Times euphemistically put in.
Everybody knew the money was being laundered.
And everybody knew the reason.
I don't know if he even showed up for a job.
The reason was to buy Joe Biden's protection.
So that Poroshenko, if he tried to come after Burisma, if he tried to take the five billion away from from Zlochevsky, there'd be Joe Biden there to stop him, who was more powerful than Zlochevsky because he was handing out the money.
And when it came time to do it, Biden did it.
It happened coincidentally, just as Shokin raided the Burisma office, arrested them, Just as the money laundering document came in, Biden's on the phone four times demanding Shokin be fired.
And he does save the kid, the company, and the crooked organized crime oligarch.
That's about the biggest accomplishment Joe had as vice president.
Maybe he'll put it down as one of his accomplishments if he runs, but he's not running.
I mean, come on.
You got to walk across the street to do that.
Biden's actions in the Ukraine dishonored the United States of America, and he must be held accountable.
If we can't hold him accountable, if we can't hold the Vice President accountable, how do we expect them to hold their crooked politicians and oligarchs And people who are double dealing with Russia?
How do we expect them to hold them accountable?
Don't we look like a bunch of complete phonies?
Well, that sure is what the Obama administration was.
That is not what the Trump administration was.
They have run into a president who really does want to drain the swamp.
And many, many Ukrainians have called me and told me Over the last couple of weeks, as I've been attacked viciously by the Democrats and their sycophant media, that President Trump should be thanked for finally taking the issue on, because they didn't know what Obama was doing, but he was basically just watching this all happen.
And when I say the evidence is clear, this money laundering document Nobody made this up.
This money laundering document came in right in the middle of the time that Shokin was fired.
The money laundering document, I'm going to show it to you again because it is a smoking gun that you cannot run away from.
I want someone to tell me they're not going to prosecute this.
There it is.
Latvia tells Ukraine that Hunter Biden It's under criminal investigation for being involved in money laundering.
$14.6 billion?
It goes from Ukraine.
Loan to Latvia.
Loan through Belize.
Loan to Cyprus.
Three different companies.
It wasn't a loan at all.
It was a payment of money to the board.
$14.6 million.
That's a good board payment, but payment to the board.
The board members all listed.
You see it?
They got money after their name.
Then you get to his partner, Devin Archer and Hunter Biden.
No money after their name, but they got money because there's money left over.
So the prosecutor Kulyuk, who you're going to hear from in a minute, I'm going to summarize in a minute.
Prosecutor Kulyuk calls up and says, how much for those guys?
You know what he's told?
The American embassy told us we couldn't tell you.
He never got the amount.
I got the amount because Devin Archer, that other great American involved in the Biden's scheme got prosecuted and convicted of securities fraud.
And in the securities fraud case, the document came out showing the $3 million coming to their company, Rosemont Seneca.
And it shows a lot, lot more.
So, that's the case.
No Ukrainian witnesses, did I?
That one document from Latvia.
Everything is American, Senator.
How do you run away from it, Senator?
What is it?
What is it with you guys?
I mean, a senator can disgrace the United States.
A senator can take bribes.
His family can make millions off his public office.
He can make fools out of us in Ukraine.
He can let his son become a partner with the Bank of China while he's negotiating with China.
He can let his brother get a highway contract for 500 million in Iraq when he's the point man for Iraq.
And you guys don't get angry!
Where's the integrity?
Where's America's more important than your club?
Well, let me just finish by quickly going through the Ukrainian witnesses who merely are corroborators.
Shokin says Biden pressured Poroshenko to fire me because I was investigating Biden's son.
Well, he's just telling you what Biden told you.
If Shokin's lying, then Biden's lying.
I mean, he does add the son, but we can prove the son a million other ways.
Shokin's just a little reminder of his testimony.
And the president made that complaint to you a number of times in 2015.
The complaint that, if I can read from your affidavit, consider the possibility of winding down the investigation actions In respect of this company, but I refuse to close this investigation.
In 2015, the President, you write about this in your statement in the Austrian court,
indicated the need to complete the investigation.
Yes.
And did he tell you where the pressure, did President Poroshenko tell you that he was
getting direct and intense pressure from the U.S.
administration and Joe Biden?
Did President Poroshenko share with you the information that he is in his turn?
press the US Embassy and Joe Biden.
No, Joe Biden. I don't know the Embassy, but Joe Biden, for sure.
I'm not sure about the Embassy, but definitely Joe Biden, that he conveyed to me.
So Shokin just repeats what Biden says, except in a different language,
and with a little twist to it, that the son was under investigation.
And then, of course, that Latvian document proves that he was under investigation.
There are ten more, but the Latvian one comes from Latvia, not Ukraine.
I got ten other Ukrainian ones to prove he's under investigation, and about eight witnesses.
Then there's the Prosecutor General Yuri Lutsenko, who replaced Shulkin, and was the one who had to do the dirty deeds of dismissing the cases.
Well, he testifies, he says that Biden and Archer was put on the board by Zlochevsky for political protection, not because they knew anything.
What he's saying is that Zlochevsky bribed Biden to get the point man who has given out all the money and was the most powerful guy in Ukraine, By putting his son and his son's partner on the board, paying them for basically no-show useless jobs because he needed them available to protect his company and his ill-gotten five billion if the president of the Ukraine came after it as he was doing.
And when he did come after it, as we pointed out, Biden stepped in and stopped it and earned his money.
And I am told by the next witness, Konstantin Koulyuk.
Konstantin Koulyuk is a Deputy Prosecutor General.
He was with this case from the very beginning.
He's the guy who really is on top of this case and he is dedicated to it.
This is a real FBI agent type, cop type, like I used to work with when I put the mob in jail and the crooked politicians.
Konstantin Koulyuk Says the same thing.
That the proof is that Zochesky hired Biden to protect himself and his company.
And that the payments were in two parts.
One, the money to Hunter Biden, Devin Archer, and the Rosemont Seneca firm for their services.
And then, he says, there was a second flow of cash, which was Which was basically the only proof he has of that right now is an $800, $900,000 payment for Joe Biden being lobbied.
I cannot go further except to say Kuliuk on my last conversation with him told me he is he is certain there are more payments Although he has been blocked by the failure of American authorities to cooperate with him, although that may have ended.
So we'll have to see if it develops as more than 900,000.
He also describes the laundered payment that we told you about, in which the money went from three, four countries to the United States.
And he points out that one of those companies, I think it was the one you see up there known as Digitech, Is owned by Victor Pinchuk, who is another oligarch, who was the biggest contributor to the Clinton Foundation.
And there might be something very interesting there too, but that'll be for another time.
And the second method of payment, I told you, was the $900,000 for lobbying Joe Biden, where Kuljic estimates that there are greater payments.
He actually gave me an amount that he thinks, but I'm not going to discuss that with you until we have it more solid.
Here is the quote from Kuljic that probably means the most.
And Kuljic, I have not put on the screen because he's in the middle of actively investigating And it really would not be helpful if his picture was seen, you know, throughout.
So, and maybe that will end in a short while.
But here's the quote that I think summed up the whole case.
Quote, this is the deputy, this is the deputy prosecutor general who's been in charge of the case throughout.
Quote, Joe Biden actively facilitated the closure of criminal cases against Mr. Zlochevsky and the officials of Burisma.
Notice he doesn't talk about Hunter Biden.
Hunter Biden was a collateral matter.
The big money in this case was getting Zlochevsky, the billionaire organized crime oligarch, out so he could keep most of his five billion.
Zlochevsky has said that he had to give up no more than 250 to 300 million to get out.
Those are the bribes that he spread around.
You can't believe the money that was spread around the Ukraine.
So, he got out, kept most of his five bill, kept his crooked company.
They are presently free.
Of all the crimes they committed against the people.
And Kuliuk will also testify that the Black Ledger that was created, which was fraudulent, was really created not as evidence against Manafort.
It was created to be used as a way to get Trump out of the campaign.
They kept talking about it as it will destroy his campaign when it's revealed in late August.
of 2016, when Ms.
Chalupa, who you may remember, But the document is a fraud.
Teleschenko, you remember from the tape that she says it'll destroy the campaign
and when Teleschenko releases it in the press conferences he says it's going to
destroy the campaign. They got surprised it didn't destroy the campaign so they
did like Peter Strzok did who was going to prevent him from being president but
had a plan for after. The plan for after was let's get Manafort under
investigation but the document is a fraud.
Nazar Kolanitsky. Nazar Kolanitsky is the head of what they call SAPI
He's the special prosecutor.
He agrees with the testimony of Andrei Talashenko and with the Deputy Prosecutor General that the Black Ledger is a fraud.
He said in August of 2016 it was being used not as a law enforcement piece of evidence, but as a political attack, and he went and complained at the time contemporaneously to the U.S.
Embassy.
Christopher Smith, who told him Not to worry about it.
Very consistent with Maria Antonovich's testimony, when Jim Jordan asked her, did you ever do anything about all the things that you knew the Ukrainians were doing to attack Trump?
The names they were calling him, Teleschenko, Sitnik, the president, Shaly, the ambassador, all attacked him.
The black book that was improperly put out.
I mean, you were concerned with collusion in our election.
You're real concerned about Hillary.
Did you ever once complain, as the ambassador of the United States of America, not as the ambassador of the Democratic National Committee, did you once complain to your friend, the crooked Poroshenko?
Answer, when she put her head down, was no.
You need to know any more about her?
I mean, we know plenty about her.
So, there are other witnesses and documents.
Once again, I complete this by saying it comes down to Biden's statement, documents.
The Ukrainians are not critical.
The Ukrainians just corroborate.
Ukrainians say what Biden told us, which I guess was hard to believe.
So, next time, we're going to get a special opportunity that rarely happens.
We're going to get to look into the prosecutor's file.
You don't usually get a peek into a prosecutor's file, even after a case is over.
But you'll get a look at it, and I think when you get a look at it, you're going to say to yourself once again, why hasn't this case been prosecuted two or three years ago, if there isn't a serious problem of corruption going on, not in Ukraine, Not in Kiev, but in the United States and in the swamp.
There is, and we are determined to change it.
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