Jake, Julian, and Travis try to make sense of Trump’s continued and ineffective attempts to make his base stop caring about Jeffrey Epstein. In some conspiracist circles, Trump’s moves on this issue are so confusing that they have resorted to “Trump clone” theories. We also discuss the Wall Street Journal (WSJ) report that revealed the cryptic birthday note that Trump sent to Epstein.
For dessert, the Jake Street Journal (JSJ) has done an investigation of its own and secured a collection of additional birthday wishes written from Donald Trump to Jeffrey Epstein.
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REFERENCES
Jeffrey Epstein’s Friends Sent Him Bawdy Letters for a 50th Birthday Album. One Was From Donald Trump
https://archive.vn/IUWMu
Judge overseeing DOJ Epstein grand jury records request asks for more information
https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/judge-overseeing-doj-epstein-grand-jury-records-request/story?id=123964265
Trump may not see the Epstein grand jury records for a while — if at all
https://www.politico.com/news/2025/07/18/jeffrey-epstein-grand-jury-documents-case-00464189
Americans are broadly dissatisfied with how much Epstein info the government has released, CNN poll finds
https://www.cnn.com/2025/07/15/politics/jeffrey-epstein-cnn-poll
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As always, we are your hosts, Jake Rakotansky, Julian Fields, and Travis View.
Travis?
Yes.
Have you ever noticed that enigmas never age?
You know, that thought had not occurred to me until this past week, I have to say.
I don't know if I agree with it.
Now replace enigmas with underage girls we committed sex crimes against, and you will understand what we are going to be dealing with this week.
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Thank you for doing the dramatic voice for effect.
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No, we don't need you to keep doing it.
Spencer Barrows.
Well, okay, if you want to, if you insist, you can keep doing that.
I just hope it doesn't really interrupt me any more times.
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I'm not doing this anymore.
Okay.
Now, usually on this show, at least I don't like to cover the exact same fairly narrow topic two weeks in a row.
How could we?
I don't know if it's narrow.
I think a lot of our faves are implicated.
Yeah.
This really is a time for certain kinds of podcasters.
Now, also just partly because my particular mental disorders make it difficult to concentrate on just a single story for a full two weeks.
What if I said no country for old media?
You know, because it's like we're the podcasters, so we can handle it because it's so gruesome.
Yeah, yeah.
The old media, they don't handle it.
No, they can't handle it.
I get it.
Okay, okay.
It's like I was a little lost for a moment when you explained it.
Okay, it's very clever.
You weren't a little lost.
You were angry that I interrupted you once again.
I could see it.
It was a thinker.
I think Travis would like to take a cattle poker and, you know, make Julian flip a coin, if you know what I mean.
Don't think they call those cattle pokers, but, you know, we'll just pretend that the thing you kill cattle with by shooting air into their head is that.
But yes, I do think he would like to use that on my head.
So we're going to make an exception, though, this week, because, God, this Epstein shit is fuck is fucking insane.
So it keeps getting more absurd because Trump, he continues to rant about the Epstein files and calling them a Democrat hoax.
Just terrible strategy.
Unbelievable.
I mean, like, calling things a hoax may have like panned out for him before, but it's like, this is, I don't think it's just like he's using the wrong tools for the situation.
I think he is definitely on the defensive.
I've never seen him fuck up this bad.
His political instincts here are trash.
They're not entertaining.
There's no base for them.
Everybody wants to know something about this situation.
No one is left cold by the entire thing.
Why would you rely on people who don't care about this?
That is such a small crowd.
You know, it's an amazingly bad instinct.
And I think what happened is Trump, and this is not his first rodeo with this stuff, got a little call by a newspaper journalist.
And this newspaper journalist told him, hey, we found this, you know, birthday buck.
What do you think, sir?
And I think he spun right the fuck out and was like, okay, first instinct, it's just fake.
It's a hoax, which is very stupid.
It means that there's an elaborate prank, a prank being played on us.
Like, what, is this what happens when you build your own little UFO, throw it into the sky and take a photo?
What are we doing here?
I mean, I'm pretty sure Jeffrey Epstein's real.
I'm pretty sure he had clients and we don't really know who they are.
It's not like he didn't have a fucking island.
Yeah, really.
No, this is actually like the darkest episode of Practical Jokers ever.
Pranked.
Oh, man.
Yeah, no, there's just no, there's no way out.
This is a big mess that everybody around him has to mop up with their little tongues.
They have to get on all four and they have to lick up this big mess that the boss man created, even though it goes completely contrary to everything they've sold their own followers, because oftentimes these are fucking podcasters like Dan Bongaino.
But yeah, it's a mess for everybody and I don't think anybody's very happy, including Donald Trump.
Yeah, so this is his, one of his more recent true social posts.
This may be something he posted after he got the call from the Wall Street Journal, but here's what he wrote.
The radical left Democrats have hit pay dirt again, just like with the fake and fully discredited Steel dossier, the lying 51 intelligence agents, and the laptop from hell, which the Dems swore had come from Russia.
No, it came from Hunter Biden's bathroom exclamation point.
And even the Russia, Russia, Russia scam itself, a totally fake and made-up story, used in order to hide crooked Hillary Clinton's big loss in 2016 presidential election.
These scams and hoaxes are all the Democrats are good at.
It's all they have.
They're no good at governing, no good at policy, and no good at picking winning candidates.
Wait a second, we have to stop there and just appreciate that that was a single sentence.
That is the first time a period shows up in this entire thing.
This man is he's used so many, he's used multiple M dashes.
He's going through fucking huge lists.
There's commas all over the place.
Not a semicolon in sight, but I will say it's very funny that Hunter Biden's laptop came from Hunter Biden's bathroom.
Like, what does he think?
That there's a little, there's a little laptop store in there or a little laptop factory?
I think that might be where he keeps a laptop.
I think Trump's got a nice little shelf in his bathroom.
And I think that, you know, as far as he's concerned, that's where the laptop goes.
Mr. Trump, would you like to put, you know, sometimes when my wife goes to sleep, I'll be like, you want me to put your work computer back in your office?
I think somebody comes in.
They're like, Mr. President, would you like to put you like your laptop back next to the toilet where it belongs?
I think that he has one of those kitty tablets that has like big rubberized edges so they can bounce on the floor.
It's got, yeah, it's got like a, you know how like you have to clip a surfboard to your ankle with like a Velcro strap so it doesn't get pulled away.
This is like the same thing.
He's got to wear a little bit of strand.
He slips the laptop right into the magazine rack with like, I don't know, New York living and like, I don't know, guys, guys, magazine, whatever he read, whatever he reads, if he reads magazines at all.
So that was the first sentence, and it ended with no good at picking winning candidates.
He's describing the Democrats.
He goes on to say, also, unlike Republicans, they stick together like glue.
Their new scam, in all caps, is what we will forever call the Jeffrey Epstein hoax.
And my past supporters have bought into this bullshit.
Hook, line, and sinker.
Now that is fucking crazy.
My past supporters?
He's jettisoning anyone who cares about Jeffrey Epstein?
He would be better off at this point.
Honestly, honestly, my advice to him would be like, say you were hacked.
Say you were hacked.
Say you were hacked and a liberal broke into the phone.
Say Hillary Clinton got access to your phone and she tweeted this.
Sir, don't listen to him.
You should kill yourself.
Here, I've provided the gun with plenty of, sir.
Just keep pulling.
Nice.
We're going to have to beep Jake on that one, too.
Just keep squeezing, sir.
Keep squeezing until you can't feel your hands anymore and can't feel your thoughts.
Keep pulling.
Keep squeezing.
Yep.
As I drink like a big boy coffee with lots of cream in it and like a wearing like a big John Hammond style like linen linen button-down shirt.
I think it's good.
Maybe one day you'll own your own island dressing like that.
I'm talking about John Hammond, of course.
I wonder what kind of animals I would bring back.
John Hammond, the Jeffrey Epstein of dinosaurs.
Have you noticed?
They were all underage.
He had hatched them pretty recently.
Oh, boy.
Does that work?
Jurassic pedophiles?
I don't even know anymore.
I don't even know if the bit works.
Pedophile Park.
Very funny stuff.
Trump, sir, please.
Can you continue?
They haven't learned their lesson and probably never will.
Even after being conned by the lunatic left for eight long years.
Wait, wait, wait.
He's saying his fucking own supporters are this?
That they're being conned for eight years?
By the lunatic left.
They haven't learned their lesson.
God, you're really showing, sir, you're not supposed to show how much you hate them.
I know.
This is why you talk about this.
Like, this is getting to him.
Usually he's able to not show his contempt for his followers.
Usually he's able to like hide it a little bit better than this, but it's more like, it's like, if you buy into this, fuck you.
I don't want your fault.
He's like, he normally draws energy and power from like how much people fucking love him.
Like he loves going to rallies and seeing thousands of people who are cheering from him.
He loves, you know, his followers normally.
And like, you know, it's like, yes, like, obviously he thinks they're fucking scum and they're roobes for supporting him, but he's still, he loves their support nonetheless.
But here he's just, yeah, just open contempt for his own followers.
I don't think I've ever seen.
Oh my God.
It keeps going.
He calls them weaklings later on.
Okay, please, Mr. Trump.
I've had more success in six months than perhaps any president in our country's history.
And all these people want to talk about, with strong prodding by the fake news and the success star of Dems, is the Jeffrey Epstein hoax.
Let these weaklings continue forward and do the Democrats' work.
Don't even think about talking about our incredible and unprecedented success because I don't want their support anymore.
Thank you for your attention to this matter.
Make America great again.
Oh my God.
What are you doing, man?
I have never, I'll tell you this.
I never saw a flat out this strong a denial from him.
Yeah, this is, this is wild because he has courted so many of these people for so long.
And of course they care about this stuff.
You cared about this stuff.
You're supposed to forget you cared about this stuff not that long ago.
If he had gone any further, he'd be like, your wife is getting fucked right now, right as you don't believe me about this shit.
You're pathetic.
So Trump reiterated this idea when he took questions during an Oval Office meeting.
You said this was all a hoax.
Has your Attorney General told you this was a hoax?
evidence have you seen about that?
No, it's not the attorney general, no.
I know it's a hoax.
It's started by Democrats.
It's been run by the Democrats for four years.
You had Christopher Wray and these characters and Comey before him.
It's all been a big hoax.
It's perpetrated by the Democrats.
And some stupid Republicans and foolish Republicans fall into the net.
And so they try and do the Democrats' work.
I don't think that what Joe Biden is known for is having pursued the Epstein case doggedly.
Like, I'm sorry, didn't we go to sleep for four years?
You brought it back up.
I love the reporter questions.
Like, did you hear this from the Attorney General?
Like, where the fuck did you all of a sudden get this idea that was a hoax?
He's like, no, it's not the attorney general.
I just Know it's a hoax.
Just coming from, he made it very clear.
This is coming from himself.
This is one of the best examples I think we have that he's getting old.
Like, this is a big failure in messaging.
And he's had awkward moments.
He said the wrong thing.
There's no problem with that.
I still support him.
I still would vote for him again if he runs a third time, just like I did the first two times and the time where he didn't win, unfortunately.
But I can't remember what I was going to say.
MAGA.
No, no, that, that, he's aging.
I think you're, I think you're right.
It's like, it's like he is very like, you know, impulsive and sensitive and, you know, very, very kind of like emotional and sort of like over the top and dramatic.
But I feel like all of these traits he was able to like recognize in himself in like direct and sort of productive ways.
And be like, oh, it's like he knows when he's saying something outrageous and he's having a good time and he knows that like people are going to react in a certain way because he's a troll.
But he could have like, I don't know, there was some, some sort of like some higher level of his brain that's able to know what the reaction is going to be before he says it.
And this time he just made a miscalculation.
He's just operating on pure unfiltered instinct, which is, you know, I guess like, you know, the narcissist accusations, like it's fake, it's not real.
It's like, it's a lie.
If they hear anything about me, it's a lie.
My image is perfect because I am perfect.
And it's just not working this time.
No, it's kind of amazing because it's like, yeah, I mean, you know, Jeffrey Epstein didn't kill himself was definitely like a big right-wing talking point.
I mean, I know that, you know, among independent podcasters and, you know, like leftists, it's a thing.
But that as a catchphrase was a right-wing thing.
Like I saw it at CPAC, you know, and people will, you know, put it in there like rap songs and shit like that if they're trying to promote MAGA.
But you're just going to pretend that we, I mean.
They had also already defeated the inconvenient fact that Trump had ridden on the plane and been photographed many, many times with him.
He was double that.
He was doing this sting operation.
He got in.
You know, it was when Trump was in office that Epstein was arrested.
You know, people had exp they had already won over his supporters who were passionate about this topic, you know, that had distanced himself enough.
He could have for the next four years been like, we're working on it, but the deep state is doing a lot.
You know, we're fighting a lot.
And so he could have, it would have cost him nothing to never let anything come out, but to say, hey, we're working on it.
We're working on it.
We're working on it.
Working on it.
So the only thing that I get from him saying this is a hoax.
It was made up by Obama.
It was doing this is that he's like, it essentially translates to me at least to don't look over here.
Don't ask any more questions about this thing or this guy.
Like done.
Over.
End of discussion.
Next, which is incredibly incriminating given what this guy is infamous for.
Yeah, I think if you're a follower of his, you've read those couple of lines, but they're kind of conceptual, right?
They're like in an interview printed somewhere, you know, where it's like Jeffrey Epstein's a good friend of mine.
I hear he's into, you know, beautiful young girls or whatever he said.
And you can kind of like store it away.
But you didn't quite have like Donald Trump sending 50th birthday like card to Jeffrey Epstein where he's like, hey, you and me were blanky blank blanking the blanky blanks, huh?
You know what I'm saying, my man?
Uh-huh.
Yep.
You and me, yeah?
Uh-huh.
So it is more incriminating, but again, if you're going to pretend that this is a hoax, just say this is a hoax.
Say the book is a hoax.
Say this was put together.
This is, this is fake.
You can still sell them on that.
You cannot sell them on retroactively not giving a shit about Epstein.
And if you cared about it, you were duped.
That's insane.
You are jettisoning so much more of your base than you think.
You could even say, I mean, I don't expect him to have this kind of awareness, but like you could even say, look, this was from 2003.
We lived in the same community.
We were running in the same circles.
Like every year, you know, Ghislaine, like we already know that he's friendly with Ghislaine because when she, you know, when she was arrested, he said, I wish her well, which was another huge media story that he somehow like, you know, escaped from in terms of like real scrutiny from his supporters.
I think that the only way really you can fuck it up with your supporters is by trying to deny the entire thing.
Yeah.
That is crazy.
That's like the only wrong choice almost for Trump because he can slip his way out of almost anything.
And I mean, this probably won't make a huge difference, but I think for most people, it's a pretty big smoking gun.
Like for anyone sensible, you're reading this stuff and you're like, okay, it is beyond obvious that they were deeply deeply involved.
That they were absolutely, you know, doing the stuff together.
Well, and he really could have taken a page from like the Democrats book who, you know, they did this with Epstein.
They did this with Harvey Weinstein, where they said, hey, yes, of course, we know he was a supporter and a donor and all this stuff.
There's lots of pictures of us together.
But we had no idea the horrible things that he was doing.
That's already been bought, you know, bought essentially by, you know, a liberal base.
By the way, a liberal base also who's not afraid to burn Bill Clinton and Hillary Clinton, if need be.
If Epstein stuff came out and Bill Clinton was really involved, even Hillary was really involved in a very incriminating way, they would have no problem.
She's already gone.
Like she's burned.
We would have no problem dropping her like a hot fucking, a hot bag of, a hot bag of like, like a hot bag of wet socks, you know, like out of the dryer, but there was too much lint.
You did it.
You did it clearly.
They're hot, but they're also wet.
They're hot.
They're hot.
They're still wet.
There's still mold.
There's mold.
There's perfect.
There's mold to grow.
A lot of contradictions here.
I think Jake is also choosing the only wrong path forward here.
You could have said so many things.
But yeah, I was like, what's so confusing about this about Face is like, you're right.
The right used to be all on Epstein because they assumed it would primarily be a source of embarrassment for the Clintons.
You know, Ghillain Maxwell was involved with the Clinton Global Initiative.
Ghillain also attended Chelsea Clinton's wedding.
Bill was on the plane multiple times.
It's like, damn, it's like, oh, yeah, like Clintons are really wrapped up in this stuff.
So when it all comes out, it'll primarily embarrass or destroy them.
And of course, they assumed Trump would be unscathed.
But it's not looking like that's the case.
In an interview with John Solomon, Trump deflected when asked if he wanted a special investigation into Epstein and implied that Democrats put something in the Epstein files.
See, there we go.
That's a better line.
They inserted wrongful stuff to make it too nuclear.
But they ought to look into the Jeffrey Epstein hoax, too, because that's another hoax that's frankly put out by the Democrats, pushing the Republicans and put out by the Democrats.
No, they definitely set the Republicans up.
One big prosecutor looked at it all.
Would that make you feel good, you think?
Well, I think it's in the case of Epstein, they've already looked at it and they are looking at it.
And I think all they have to do is put out anything credible.
But, you know, that was run by the Biden administration for four years.
I can imagine what they put into files.
Yeah, John Solomon's trying to go along with him.
He's like, yeah, of course, Mr. President.
So we're setting a look into it, right?
Yeah, yeah, they absolutely set you up.
How about one big guy?
How about one big guy, you know, a Durham, a somebody, somebody that we can latch on to for the next couple of years while the investigation is underway and we don't have any definitive answers about what you did or didn't do.
Yeah, just do a fucking Russiagate like on yourself.
Like do a three-year investigation that amounts to nothing at the end.
But the whole time they can speculate and just keep telling them you got something cooking.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
They've already, you've already seen that that works.
Well, he's so spooked.
He's so genuinely spooked, I think.
Yeah, that's what it feels like to me.
This is a show of weakness.
It is.
And like I think you guys were talking about earlier about age, you know, specifically listening to this call, it sounds like somebody who's calling their grandparent at like the old folks' home.
He's like phoning in.
He's like phoning in from the assisted living facility.
Yep.
We finally got an idea about why Trump suddenly felt the need to have his DOJ declare case closed on the Epstein issue and they started raging about why it's all a Democrat hoax.
So yeah, it turned out that Wall Street Journal was working on a story about Trump's connection to Epstein.
Specifically, they saw a 2003 birthday scrapbook that was compiled for Jeffrey Epstein's 50th birthday.
Scrapbook doesn't really do it justice because this was bound by like a professional bookbinder in New York that has one of the most interesting client lists I've ever seen.
People have started cross-referencing the client list of this like weird little bookbinder guy with, you know, other lists.
And it's not looking good, folks.
This guy's the bookbinder for the pedophiles, perhaps.
Yeah, he's like, ah, yes.
He's like, oh, you're looking for something made out of skin, the necronomicon.
Let me go and check the star room.
God, fuck, we've got fucking like a demonic bookbinder.
This is like turning into like fucking the, you know, sort of a weird occultist story.
I love it.
Let's get into some Ninth Gate shit.
So Epstein received several notes, including one from Les Wexner, Alan Dershowitz, and one from Donald Trump.
All of the greatest guys are here.
I know.
Now, here's how the Dershowitz letter was described.
Dershowitz's letter included a mock-up of a Vanity Unfair magazine cover with mock headlines such as, who was Jack the Ripper?
Was it Jeffrey Epstein?
He joked that he had convinced the magazine to change the focus of an article from Epstein to Bill Clinton.
Dershowitz, who represented Epstein after his first arrest, said, quote, it's been a long time and I don't recall the content of what I may have written.
I mean, it's so fucking amazing.
Come on, publish the letter, you fucking, you absolute fucking cowards.
I want to see this letter so bad.
I mean, this is incredible.
It's 2003.
He hasn't even been like indicted on like sex crimes yet.
And already there's a, there's fucking Dershowitz telling him, hey, we rerouted the attention to another pedophile, Bill Clinton.
Yeah, it's like, it's fucking shocking being all just bragging about deflecting investigations into Epstein's depraved activities to him.
I mean, just the shit things that these people joke about.
I mean, I don't think one can draw any other conclusion than these rich people all get together and draw funny doodles on each other's birthday cards about all the fucking crimes they're doing and horrible things that they're all getting together and laughing behind our backs about how they're held completely to a different set of standards than everybody else.
And this is what they celebrate.
I would love to be in their little fucking leatherbound lounge with them and just take their Cuban and put it out in their eye.
I would love to watch the smoldering socket of their eyeball after I'm done with putting their own cigar in it.
Just like send like one Destiny Guardian in there and like have them hit their special, like just in that little room and see what happens.
Definitely was thinking about Destiny.
I'm hoping that what the Wall Street Journal is doing by choosing not to publish the complete contents of their letters is that they're keeping their powder dry.
They're kind of like they got a lot of stuff and they want the denials so that they have reason to like defend themselves and publish more.
I mean, maybe.
I mean, again, I'm giving them the benefit of the doubt.
Yeah, until you realize like someone high up at the Wall Street Journal or on the board of directors is another one of the letters.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Wonder if Rupert Murdoch is in that book.
Yeah, there's like zero shot that that book isn't full of people that can't wait to sue them.
So here's how the Wall Street Journal describes a letter from Donald Trump.
The letter bearing Trump's name, which was reviewed by the journal, is body, like others in the album.
It contains several lines of typewritten text framed by the outline of a naked woman, which appears to be hand-drawn with a heavy marker.
A pair of small arcs denote the woman's breasts, and the future president's signature is a squiggly Donald below her waist, mimicking pubic hair.
So he signed his name as the pubic hair of this woman doodle.
That's clever.
It all checks out, though.
This is 1970s Playboy stuff, you know?
Like Gentleman's Club.
Yes, exactly.
It's like, yeah, body, I think, is a good way to describe it.
But the weirdest part of the letter from Trump is he included this typewritten imaginary dialogue between Trump and Emstein, and it's presumably written by Trump himself.
Voiceover, there must be more to life than having everything.
Donald, yes, there is, but I won't tell you what it is.
Jeffrey, nor will I, since I also know what it is.
Donald, we have certain things in common, Jeffrey.
Jeffrey, yes we do, come to think of it.
Donald, enigmas never age.
Have you noticed that?
Jeffrey, as a matter of fact, it was clear to me the last time I saw you.
Trump, a pal Is a wonderful thing.
Happy birthday, and may every day be another wonderful secret.
This is so insane.
God, rereading it, it's like every line is like, we're pedophiles together, we're pedophiles together, we're pedophiles together.
It's crazy.
Oh, this is just written insanely.
Yes, there is, but I won't tell you what it is, nor will I, since I also know what it is.
We get it.
We get it, guys.
These are, yeah, this is like, this is like your pedophiles.
Yes, you meet the two foxes.
You meet the two foxes on the moon.
One tells the truth.
One doesn't tell the truth.
Like, the dialogue is literally like that of like a children's like riddle.
Enigmas never age.
Have you noticed that?
When I read this, I imagine them like winking at each other so hard, like a vessel pops in their eyeball.
Yeah, this is probably why they fell out because like Epstein's like, bro, you need to be more chill.
You cannot be writing fake conversations between us where we're very clearly talking about having sex with underage girls on my island.
Wait, why?
Through like the first, he's got voiceover and then he's got Donald as one of the characters and Jeffrey is another.
But then like when he wishes a happy birthday, he writes the character as Trump.
So Trump, at least if we're looking at this from a screenplay aspect or even a play, Trump is a different character from Donald.
Yeah, that's what makes it so realistic.
The whole thing is just melted, is so melted.
Yeah, I think that's what makes it check out for me is just like how bizarre what he's saying and kind of inconsistent and poorly written, frankly.
Not to mention, he's also writing in that Jeff is giving him a compliment because he says enigmas never age.
Have you noticed that?
And Jeffrey says, as a matter of fact, it was clear to me the last time I saw you.
So Trump is here trying to say that one, he himself, he views himself as an enigma and that Epstein also noticed this the last time they saw each other.
Yeah, it's not good and it sounds like two vampires talking about eating children.
I mean, this is some QAnon stuff.
Where the fuck is QAnon on this shit, man?
Seriously, if you're baking pizza and hot dogs.
Hot dogs?
Fucking.
You're going to talk to me about fucking chestnut sauce or whatever the fuck, walnut sauce?
You're going to talk to me about that?
Look at this shit.
But you're not going to talk about enigmas never age or may every day be a wonderful secret?
You're not going to talk about this?
Yeah, they see an email that says, let's grab pizza for an hour.
The pizza gators go, oh, this obviously means they are conspiring to abuse children together.
But they see Donald Trump write to Jeffrey, we have certain things in common, Jeffrey.
They're like, yes, we do, come to think of it.
That could be anything.
And they both know what the secret is.
Yes, there is a secret.
There is more to life than having everything.
There's a secret I'm not going to tell you.
Jeffrey, nor I'm not going to tell you either.
But I also, me and Donald both know what it is.
Yeah.
This is.
I'm losing my brain.
Breaking my brain.
It's so crazy.
We got to stop doing this.
Just every couple years, an Epstein thing comes back up and this by far feels the worst.
I don't know.
It's like.
Jake, you and I have some things in common.
We do, don't we?
He's talking about having a Steam library, okay?
Travis, calm down.
All right, all right.
We'll move on.
We'll move on.
Trump responded to the story by saying this.
This is not me.
This is a fake thing.
It's a fake Wall Street Journal story.
I never wrote a picture.
I never wrote a picture.
Some people write in words.
Others write in pictures.
Me, I don't write in pictures.
He goes, okay, so the real quote is, I never wrote a picture in my life.
I don't draw pictures of women.
It's not my language.
It's not my words.
Okay, so first of all, this is false.
He draws pictures all the time.
He used to fucking send in doodles like to be sold off for charity.
There are various different variations on his landscape of New York that he keeps sending people.
He is a prolific doodler.
It's on record.
He's bragged about it before.
Yeah, so a lot of people tried to claim that it's like, oh, he used the word enigma.
And that's not a word that Trump ever uses.
And they found multiple examples in his public speeches and in his books where he has used the word enigma.
Yeah.
I mean, come on, guys.
Like, just publish the book.
I mean, they'll never say it's real, but I would like to see the other people in that book, just for the record.
It's, if you're not, if we're not going to get a client list, could we at least get a list of people who loved him so much that they sent him fucking birthday notes?
Like, please, guys, you can do something very basic here.
You owe it to us, Wall Street Journal.
And if you don't, I know where all of your families live.
I will personally.
Come on.
Not here.
Don't threaten journalists.
Wall Street journalists are actually, it's fine.
Come on.
You can do it.
Wall Street journalists.
The journalists, yeah, you could find them in the trees on Wall Street.
They live in the ticker.
Now, this is a real bipartisan issue.
There was a CNN poll that found that only 3% of Americans are satisfied with how much information has been released about the Epstein files.
And that 3% has now walked Lemmings style in a straight line off the side of the earth because they're too dumb to live.
I mean, no, I mean, to put that in perspective, like the proposition that we are ruled by a race of lizard people from the constellation Draco regularly polls at about 4%.
So the American people find it harder to believe that the Epstein case is all, you know, wrapped up and we've learned everything there is to learn than the reptilian conspiracy theory.
You are more likely to believe as a reptilian believer than someone who says, you know what, I think we've heard enough on Epstein.
It's over.
Well, I think at this point, basically, thinking you have enough information about this is a conspiracy theory.
You have to create a theory of a conspiracy to bring this up to like down Donald Trump or distract from big issues.
You have to invent a very big mind palace to be able to say, yeah, I think we have enough information.
You know, I think that the problem with this is that usually, you know, Trump's followers like it when he's very defiant and he's sort of like he punches back.
They like he punches back under pressure because it's like he's like, he doesn't, he's like, okay, yeah, people are going after him, but he's going after those other, he's hurting them more.
And then people, the libs on Twitter are so triggered.
But they can't do that act on this case.
Oh, oh, so Trump's, you know, that Trump is stopping, preventing any more information from Epstein coming out.
Does that trigger you?
Does that make you mad?
It's like, that doesn't sound good.
That doesn't feel good.
So they can't do that move anymore.
Yeah, this is the one thing where you were like, if people are pedophiles, like we should kill them.
Like, that's the thing that you were doing.
You can't then pretend you're not, you know, that you don't care anymore and that you're, you know, we're triggered.
Sorry, buddy.
And Donald Trump and Cash Patel literally, like, they were supposed to be the guys who were going to tell us who killed Jeffrey Epstein.
You know what I mean?
That's what they were like, finally.
We have all the levers of power.
There's nothing stopping us.
Some shit will come to light, you know?
And now to be like, eh, to have them come, Cash Patel be like, sorry, folks, it's actually all a conspiracy.
To use, you know, their own like condescending language and call these, you know, to do what the enemy has done to them for so many years, you know, calling them conspiracy theorists and worse yet, a hoax.
Yeah, you're fucked.
You're fucked, pal.
I think you really pissed off the wrong people.
Yeah.
It's hard for me to believe that they're so dumb that they do not understand how big and important an issue is with their base.
And not to mention every base, the one thing that can unite people politically is that like we'd like to know more about what Jeffrey Epstein was fucking up to.
The math is there.
97% of people want to.
97%.
97%.
You cannot call something like that a hoax and get away with it electorally.
It's just, like you said, Julian, it is so politically toned down.
Like, that's just stupid.
Yeah.
Very bad political instinct.
I think Trump just always thought, dude, if it ever comes out, it implicates so many people that they're never going to even let it come out.
And now that there's a threat of like, well, something's going to come out right at the time where everyone's hungering.
And it's this fucking book, this scrapbook of like birthday well-wishes.
Well, you didn't think about the fucking birthday book.
You didn't think about that.
You didn't think about the fucking birthday book, did you?
He was like, well, okay, the two DVDs have been destroyed and the island is quarantined.
So we won't have to be in the, the phone is long, long gone.
And the birthday book, like, oh, nobody said, she wouldn't even keep that.
She's been in jail.
It's probably storage somewhere.
Like, you didn't think about the birthday book.
Show us the Bill Clinton one.
Yeah.
Show us the Bill Clinton letter.
I actually do think that Bill probably was not at this point chilling anymore with him because if they're letting, if they're letting fucking Dershowitz like reroute attention to him, he clearly is like an like us.
Yeah, no longer in the pedophile club.
He has to go do pedophilia on his own.
He can't just be part of the big network.
He's like, well, my wife told me that I can't be hanging around with Jeffrey Epstein no more.
Can't be going over doing fun things with young girls rolling in the mud, rolling under the covers.
Can't be doing, my wife won't let me do it.
Wife won't let me.
So she's got a lot of things going on.
And so sorry, Jeff, can't be friends with you anymore.
Now, obviously, Trump and his allies felt the pressure to release something.
So in response, Trump announced that he would move to have grand jury testimony released if the court approved.
Not something I ever hear people asking for.
It's like, release the grand jury testimony if it's okay with the court.
That was like, that was never a rallying cry.
But here's what he tweeted.
Even when he was asking this, or he posted on True Social, rather, he's still being defiant.
I've asked the Justice Department to release all grand jury testimony with respect to Jeffrey Epstein, subject only to court approval.
With that being said, and even if the court gave its full and unwavering approval, nothing will be good enough for the troublemakers and radical left lunatics making the request.
It will always be more, more, more.
MEGA.
Dude, come on, man.
I mean, what is there to say?
It's awful.
Is he so like disconnected that he's like, he's like got like the goldfish memory?
And so right now it's Democrats who are like, we want to know more about the Epstein thing.
So he's like, well, the Democrats are talking about it.
So it must come from Obama.
Somebody told them to ask about it.
What a hoax.
Can't be.
He can't be that gone.
Maybe he is.
I want to emphasize, I looked into this a little bit, just how weak sauce this is, because again, so a judge has to decide whether the historical importance of the case outweighs secrecy rules that normally keeps this kind of testimony confidential.
And then if the court agrees, the DOJ says it will publish transcripts with names and sensitive details blacked out, which is like, we want names and sensitive details.
That's like what people are clamoring for.
And the other thing is that the earlier DOJ statement emphasized that like no one else essentially would be prosecuted for being involved with Epstein.
And that has not changed.
So it's like, oh, we've been told ahead of time that nothing's going to change.
And also on top of that, so any like investigative files or evidence exhibits that the grand jury saw would not automatically become public if this happened.
So this is bullshit.
This is nothing.
Now, how desperate are Trump supporters getting?
Because Jesus, this is a great deal of cognitive dissonance to resolve.
And well, I'm not saying this is representative, but some of the more deranged factions are resorting to Trump clone theories.
For example, you may be familiar with Kerry Cassidy of the conspiracy outlet Project Camelot.
Yes.
Yes, yeah.
We've touched on it before.
I have to say, our friends over at Knowledge Fight, they've done really great coverage of it.
But here's what Kerry Cassidy had to say about Trump's rage over the Epstein issue, a tweet that got 50 retweets.
Trump clone out of control.
The latest version of Trump is now attacking the real Trump space.
What's next?
The Epstein files we know lead to the alien intervention on Earth and the satanic agenda controlling governments and industry leaders.
Underground bases.
Cities run by aliens controlling world leaders.
Is the Trump clone out of control?
Yeah, they're losing control over him.
Yeah.
Under that post, there are like people like replying to her and like agreeing with her.
There's like one woman who says, this is not the real Trump.
I know this.
No one would ever believe it.
Another user replies, of course, why would they put the real one in danger and put him out there?
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Think about that.
So the question is, like, the one who's earbled, Like, is that the real one, or had they already wheeled out the fake one at that point?
You know, I want a chronology of real and fake here.
Another person says, I've been having my suspicion about this Trump being a clone, too.
It does look like Trump, but the operational software is that of a bold-faced lying Democrat.
It's like, what is it?
It's Trump, but I don't believe what Trump is saying to me.
How do I make sense of this?
He must be a bold-faced lying demon rat.
However, there's one comment under Kerry Cassidy's clone theory.
I thought I asked, I think, a sensible question.
How would the white hats allow an evil Trump to take center stage?
Yeah, yeah.
It's like, well, if they're white hats and they're in control and they replaced it with an evil Trump, why would they do that?
That doesn't even make sense if you assume all this is true.
I think the influencer, the Q influencers are going to have to go back to like Spygate.
I think the only thing that they can do at this point is just try to be like, guys, this is all a distraction because this other thing is actually coming.
Spygate justice is coming.
A whipped pig never squeals.
Don't make me turn you all into pork chops, my little piggies.
But it'll be really interesting to see how this continues to shape, what will come of this grand jury testimony.
I imagine anything that Trump does to release any kind of information or like reverse back on this horrible blunder is not going to be anything that makes him look bad.
I mean, he's going to pick and choose what comes out in a desperate attempt to sort of like, I don't know, win back people who are really turned off by this.
I'm going to make a couple of bets.
Give it a few months, and this will become somewhat of a marginal issue.
It'll go back to being a dormant Jeffrey Epstein situation.
And I'm actually going to double down on that and say that the Wall Street Journal never publishes the full PDF of this book.
Okay.
So that's that's very, that's obviously, that is, you know, very cynical of me.
Yes.
And we'll see if it, if it happens.
And if it doesn't, I will be pleasantly surprised.
Yeah, one of my favorite stories from about Trump from his real estate years is apparently he's like whenever he was working on the project and like maybe it gets stalled.
So there isn't a lot of like actual work going on on it.
And an investor wanted to come and inspect the area to see how it was going.
He would hire people for the day to walk around, to pick up dirt and put it in a different part of the site, not to do any actual construction, but to be busy on the site.
And so he could walk.
So he could walk his investor and say, like, we're coming along.
You see all these people.
And of course, the shtick would be like, you know, the investor would just like see all the activity.
It was like, okay, yeah.
I was like, I guess I don't understand technically everything that's going on, but I see everything's coming along quite nicely.
And I think he's just trying to do that.
He's drumming up activity, just motion.
It doesn't have to be motion towards anything.
It doesn't have to have a goal.
It doesn't have to have any substance.
Just motion is enough to mollify people.
I do think he fucked up big, but I do think he can still pull the same technique that I had mentioned, which is essentially do a three to four year slow roll, like Mueller report style.
Just, you know, hopefully we'll, you know, we'll have a new podcast with a new name.
Like, what would be the Mueller for Trump this time around?
It could be Bondi.
Yeah.
Bondi, she wrote?
What do you guys think?
No.
Well, there would have to be like somebody, somebody within his camp would have to become a hero.
Like Tulsi Gabbard, people would have to believe that Tulsi Gabbard is using an anonymous account to like really, you know, to say that she's actually discovered, you know, the true, true villain of the deep state.
And it's Trump and she's taking, and she's taking him down.
So yeah, this is something that I've mentioned with just you guys in private.
But like if this would be the funniest thing would be if we had a QAnon arise from this, but it's somebody that's already in his orbit that's like working within his White House, someone like Tulsi or a team of people to create the real, essentially the real cue, except that they would be working to discover that Donald Trump is a pedophile instead of working to show you that Donald Trump is fighting the pedophile cabal.
That would be the funniest thing.
Well, there's another funnier thing.
There's a funnier thing, but this would be, this would provide good content at least.
Okay, the funniest thing.
You don't have to say it.
Let's just say one of those QAnon followers does the obvious that they've been threatening to do.
Okay.
And so then the person who does the thing would be, it's like he kills, the person kills a pedophile.
They were the storm all along.
And then, wait, so...
Travis!
How do I...
Oh, come on.
All right.
I mean, yeah, you know.
But nobody will ever see.
See, I hope that actually doesn't happen.
I hope he makes, or, you know, is removed by legal means, you know, whatever.
Have you ever read Greek tragedy, my friend?
This is how this is how they resolve.
I know this is how it goes.
But if something like that happens, then there will be more mythology.
And I think at this point, the best thing that we could do is like in these moments where you see his real colors, his detestation for his followers, his involvement in large human trafficking rings, or at least appearing very guilty, you know, to be doing so.
Like this slow death is like, I think overall better and will, you know, is harder to kind of come up with crazy theories about, but fuck me.
What do I know?
Who cares?
Okay, so I will just quote a tweet by a friend of the pod in November from over at Trash Future and a few other podcasts.
The arc of American history is long, but it bends confusingly towards Donald Trump getting beep and beep for being a pedophile by a guy who voted for him to stop the pedophiles and who is himself a pedophile.
Wow.
I thought that was so succinctly put.
I cannot retweet that.
And yeah, I guess I beep myself on this one.
Brilliant.
Quite brilliant.
Well, Julian, you know, you might get your wish sooner than later because even though the Wall Street Journal might not ever get around to publishing more letters from the Jeffrey Epstein 50th birthday party book, the Jake Street Journal,
otherwise known as the JSJ, has done an investigation of its own and secured a handful of additional birthday wishes written from Donald Trump to Jeffrey Epstein, spanning from years all the way back to 2004, right up until Epstein's death in 2019.
Could I just say one thing about the Jake Street Journal?
It seems they could have saved a lot of money and not have to even redo the logo if it was just the Wall Street Jake.
Hmm, the Wall Street Jake.
But that's not what this is.
The Wall Street Jake can never exist.
I could never be a Wall Street guy, but Jake Street Journal, everybody want, who doesn't want a house on Jake Street?
All right.
I was just trying to do Doge, just trying to save the taxpayers some money, but I guess we can continue.
We reached out to Donald Trump for comment before publishing this episode, and he said that the letters were fake and that he would be suing the paper for $17 billion.
I should warn you now, some of the content of these letters is frighteningly mysterious, enigmatic even.
Oh.
January 14th, 2007.
From the office of Donald Trump.
Voiceover, another year come and gone.
Donald, a true friend is something one can never measure.
Jeffrey, but perhaps if you could, it might be as tall as one of your skyscrapers.
Donald, perhaps even taller, but only if the friendship is very big and not videotaped.
Jeffrey, what can be bigger than a friend with no tape at all?
Trump, what a beautiful day to have a pal who really cares.
Happy birthday.
Sincerely, Danal Trump.
Wow, that's, um, I like this because it's like, it's pretty much indistinguishable.
Like, this is, I could believe that this was the actual letter.
And on this letter, he's he's sort of inexplicably doodled a picture of 9-11 with the Trump signature kind of acting as like the smoke coming off of one of the buildings.
So truly, truly awful stuff.
Wow, yeah.
Confusing.
There's another one here from January 18th, 2012.
Okay, so after he's already been indicted.
From the office of Donald Trump.
Voiceover, a life well lived can sometimes feel like a crime.
You can't believe you got away with it all.
Donald, your pals along the way are what some might call your accomplices.
Jeffrey, it's true.
Donald, oh, Jeffrey, we have accomplished quite a lot this year.
Congratulations on all your continued success.
Trump, a friend is a treasure that can never be buried.
Happy birthday to an out-of-this-world guy.
Yours, Donald Trump.
Interesting.
And on this one, he's drawn, I guess, like some kind of sex plane.
What's a sex plane?
Don't describe to us the sex plane you're looking at.
Well, it's like kind of a doodle of a plane, but through all of the portholes, you can see people engaged in like various, you know, various activities.
And I guess his signature is in the shape of a pair of breasts through one of the portholes.
Deranged.
Very deranged.
It's crazy.
Like, Trump, by 2012, it seems like he's gotten into Pigma pens, you know, like these 0.1, like very, very thin pens, getting better at doodling.
This next one is from January 26th of 2014.
Voiceover, another year of spectacular memories.
Too, too wonderful, too wonderful to be revealed.
Donald, a friendship is worth 1,000 secrets.
Jeffrey, and a picture is worth 1,000 words.
Donald, please don't release the videotapes you have of me in your guest room.
Jeffrey, I'm not quite sure what you're talking about.
Trump, happy birthday to a TruePal and a wonderful entertainer.
Best wishes, Donald Trump.
It's interesting.
Every four years, he's getting more and more desperate, it seems.
Well, in this one, he's got a little drawing of like a stick figure sort of watching various streams of pornography across multiple monitors, and Trump's signature is kind of doodled over one of them.
Oh, interesting.
So it's a goon cave.
He's like doodled over one of the TV, sort of obscuring the image.
Yeah, that makes sense.
That was the one that was showing.
Well, you know.
And this one, this is the last one that we were able to obtain.
This is closer to Epstein's eventual passing, January 20th, on the day of his actual birthday, 2018, from the office of Donald Trump.
A voiceover.
But all good things must come to an end.
Donald, for some people, they do.
Not everyone has an island to escape to.
Jeffrey, if there was one man who could figure out how to live forever, it's my very best friend Donald.
If we act quickly, they can freeze our DNA while it's still good.
But I need your referral code.
No, no, no.
I think you should leave this in.
He's laughing at the idea that they're using a referral code.
Okay, let me get it.
I can get it back.
No, no, no, no.
Don't let me get it back.
Leave this in.
Let me get it.
Jeffrey, if there was one man who could figure out how to live forever, it's my very best friend, Donald.
Donald, if we act quickly, they can freeze our DNA while it's still good.
But I need your referral code.
Jeffrey, the code is question mark, question mark, question mark.
And then in parentheses, it says, please text me.
And then he signs it, Trump, safe travels and good health to an old pal.
Happy birthday.
Best wishes, Donald Trump.
And for the final doodle on this last one, his signature seems to be in the shape of like a secret number where he can be reached.
So it doesn't look good.
I'll tell you that.
Yeah, there's also like a bunk bed and like a kind of sheet like away from the bunk bed towards the signature.
And the signature is kind of leaning away from the bunk bed.
Yeah.
It's interesting.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Really interesting stuff and a window into, I think Trump has kind of invented a new style of haiku here with how these birthday messages are structured.
I think the medium will be explored more in the future and analyzed, certainly.
Oh, man.
I wonder if this is going to develop.
Please, Wall Street Journal, publish the whole book.
Come on.
Don't be losers here.
I know the FBI is not going to listen to me, but you at least, your journalists, know that the public deserves this, even if some of your faves are implicated.
And they probably are, almost certainly.
Otherwise, I think this whole letter would be out.
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You should go to cursedmedia.net, right, boys?
Yeah, you should.
Yes.
Ah, cursedmedia.
Travis?
Net.
CursedMedia.net.
Yeah, two shakes.
No, it's cool.
It's cool.
We're like, everybody's embarrassed to like shill something, you know, everybody's embarrassed to be like, oh, give us more of your money.
But like, you know, as Julian said before, it's so cool.
Like, it's so cool to be starting a network and to be curating different kinds of content that's not necessarily our voices or topics that we are suited to cover and to have the resources to like have really, really high quality research and production value.
And we're just fucking, we're over the moon about it.
Folks, support it while it's young so you can say later, yeah, I was there from the beginning.
Like think of all the things that you could see cursed media in front of.
Like it might not always be a podcast.
You know what I'm saying?
So it's, it's, we're really excited about it.
It's actually retroactively going to be the, we're publishing Jeffrey Epstein's black book.
I want the pop-up birth.
I want the birthday book with all the pop-ups in it.
Yeah.
Listener, until next week, may every day be a wonderful secret.
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Hey everyone, well, I am here on Tuesday morning.
I am headed to a hearing in the Natural Resources Committee, and we just found out that votes have been canceled for the rest of the week, starting at 3:30 tomorrow afternoon, because just when you think this place could not possibly get more dysfunctional, it does.
So basically, here's what's going on.
The Republicans are completely unraveling over the disclosure of the Epstein files.
And the House Republicans are choosing to shut down votes.
And when I say shut down votes, I mean they are shutting down the rules committee, they are shutting down floor votes, and they are shutting down debate so that they do not have to consider any transparency measures, resolutions, bills, otherwise that would force them to either vote against Donald Trump, to disclose the Epstein files, or to otherwise provide transparency on this issue because we don't know why.
They're hiding something, they know something we don't, or they're just afraid to piss off Donald Trump because clearly he's very upset about this entire situation.
But this whole cover-up that they're engaged in is essentially leading to a shutdown of the House.
And in fact, it's important to understand that as of yesterday, they actually had a slate of bills that they were planning to pass.
In fact, I'm not complaining because these bills were really, really bad.
A couple of them were attempts to repeal administrative law protecting public lands using the Congressional Review Act, a really horrible bill around water quality that would have devastating impacts for thousands of rivers and streams across the United States.
It would literally deregulate stormwater, which could result in raw sewage going into our rivers and streams, deregulate pesticide use.
I mean, this is a really, really bad bill.
So I'm not complaining that they pulled the cord on it, but the issue is that they basically aren't even trying to pass real legislation anymore.
And the stuff they are trying to pass, they can't even get done because they're melting down over this entire issue.
