British comedian-turned-Hollywood-actor-turned-Youtube-guru Russell Brand is facing serious sexual assault accusations. Annie Kelly takes a look at his relationship to his audience as he slides into the conspiratorial and contrarian. This is part one of two and includes an interview with Dr. Rob Topinka, senior lecturer at Birkbeck, the University of London.
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Welcome, listener, to the 251st chapter of the QAA podcast, the Russell Brand episode.
As always, we're your hosts, Jake Rakitansky, Ani Kelly, Julian Fields, Liv Acar, and Travis View.
Hello everybody, we've got the biggest team in a while back together to celebrate the greatness of the mother country.
The one that started it all, the one that founded the United States, kind of by mistake.
And we are here specifically to celebrate two of its finest achievements.
The great We are so often mentioned in the same sentence together.
So true.
It's like, you can't have one without the other.
British people the crown has ever produced the jewels falling from its
circlet yeah we are so often mentioned in the same sentence together so true
it's like you can't have one without the other you have the same accent same
sense of humor same hair you like to go on the same shows and podcasts
Well, we're both interested in conspiracy.
Yeah, that's true.
Travis to Celebrate has worn, for the first time ever, a tie-dye shirt, which I really do appreciate.
It's like he's playing me for a day.
Yeah, it's a loose Monday.
What can we say?
It's a loose Monday.
It's also laundry day.
It was slim pickings in my closet.
Yeah.
Yeah, I'm wearing a shirt that I wore yesterday actually to be honest as well So yeah, Jake currently looks like he should be on the call as a correspondent with like a TV news show and Travis looks like he got kicked out of his parents place for Not paying the token rent.
The polls have reversed.
Every five years the QAA polls reverse and I become the buttoned up smart one and Travis descends into madness.
Yeah, it's a Freaky Friday situation.
That would be so funny.
Meanwhile, Liv has spent, as far as I can tell, the last few days posting AI-generated versions of cis Liv, which is the funniest.
And you know what?
I don't even know what to expect anymore.
I'm always like, oh, this is the latest thing that Liv is up to online.
Okay.
I was just scrolling on Twitter and I saw your AI montage and I was like, what the heck is going on here?
I honestly never understand anything Liv posts.
I always fave out of solidarity.
You know what, but the people do.
Sometimes Liv will post something and I'll be like, I have no idea what that means.
And then I'll look down and it'll be like 35,000 likes.
I'm like so, I am so out of touch.
I'm so out of touch.
But I'm happy for Liv that she's in touch.
Yeah.
Making the people good content, you know?
It's that expression, I love that for you.
I love that for you, Liv.
That's so cool.
I just, I like it because I'm pretty sure it arrests my cellular degeneration, like due to aging.
Like every time I like a Liv post, I'm a little bit younger.
I think honestly being in touch just makes you worse.
Like, the more in touch I am, you can, like, kind of measure my mental well-being based upon how many hours on TikTok it's running out there.
This is part one of a two-part episode.
Greetings, my sweet little pumpkins.
It's your UK correspondent, Annie Kelly here.
As the nights get longer and the weather gets colder, I've been recruited to shepherd the lost and lonely QAA listeners into the cozy embrace of Christian girl autumn.
No!
It's the hats Jake hates!
It's literally the hats Jake hates taking over the city over here.
Well, it's too late, Jake.
I'd advise curling up by the fire with a hot mug of mulled cider for this episode, because today we're going to be discussing a decidedly not heartwarming topic.
I know, shocking for a nanny episode.
Listen, just because one sober guy did something doesn't mean you should wish me to drink a hot mug of mulled cider.
It's very dark.
You can have non-alcoholic mulled cider.
Sure.
But should you?
Should you?
Yeah.
Should you?
Cause that's disgusting.
Actually, you know what?
Maybe even just apple juice.
Cause sometimes cider has clove in it.
And I think that that's, that's a, an herb to be smelled, not tasted.
Mm-hmm.
And then telling me to sip apple juice out of a little muglet?
Hot mug of mulled cider.
Accept it if you're Julian and you can have a hot chocolate instead.
Thank you.
Thank you so much.
Finally, I get the treatment I deserve with lots of mollos in it.
For many years now, I've been fielding requests from many of you to host an episode explaining what exactly is going on with Russell Brand.
The 48-year-old British comedian-turned-Hollywood-actor-turned-YouTube-guru has had a complex political and spiritual evolution over the 20 years or so he's been in the public eye, but has definitely dipped his toe into the conspiracy world more than once, and seems increasingly comfortable there.
Strangely though, I've always felt a little reluctant to begin investigating him.
In September this year, something happened that made me change my mind.
Sometime on the 15th, a rumour began going around social media that a big expose was about to come out about a famous comedian.
Now, I'm no metropolitan media insider, but I had heard some pretty persistent rumours about a certain big-name comedian from this part of the world before.
Who, if true, had frankly had a reckoning coming for a very long time now.
So I was actually pretty surprised when Russell Brand launched what I guess you could call the YouTube conspiracy world's equivalent of a preemptive strike.
Annie, before we jump into this first clip, can you explain how one develops this accent?
Because it's not quite Cockney, but it's also just, it's grating and it's annoying.
Is this a Russell Brand specific accent that he's developed for himself or does this represent your people?
No, I mean, that's a very sharp ear you've got.
It's not quite Cockney.
It's actually an Essex accent.
They're often called like estuary accents.
They're kind of accents that sort of develop around the sort of counties that sort of revolve around London, where it's like a little bit London, but a little bit not.
Okay.
Yeah.
So he comes from a place that has sex in the name.
Got it.
Yeah, I mean, but that would be to condemn pretty much half of half of England.
I condemn half of England.
Hello there you Awakening Wonders, now this isn't the usual type of video we make on this channel where we critique, attack and undermine the news in all its corruption, because in this story I am the news.
I've received two extremely disturbing letters, or a letter and an email.
One from a mainstream media TV company, one from a newspaper listing a litany
of extremely egregious and aggressive attacks, as well as some pretty stupid stuff,
like my community festival should be stopped, that I shouldn't be able to attack
mainstream media narratives on this channel.
But amidst this litany of astonishing, rather baroque attacks,
are some very serious allegations that I absolutely refute.
These allegations pertain to the time when I was working in the mainstream,
when I was in the newspapers all the time, when I was in the movies.
And as I've written about extensively in my books, I was very, very promiscuous.
Now, during that time of promiscuity, the relationships I had were absolutely always consensual.
I was always transparent about that then, almost too transparent.
And I'm being transparent about it now as well.
And to see that transparency metastasized into something criminal that I absolutely deny makes me question Is there another agenda at play?
Particularly when we've seen coordinated media attacks before, like with Joe Rogan when he dared to take a medicine that the mainstream media didn't approve of, and we saw a spate of headlines from media outlets across the world using the same language.
I'm aware that you guys have been saying in the comments for a while, watch out Russell, they're coming for you, you're getting too close to the truth, Russell Brand did not kill himself.
I know that a year ago there was a spate of articles.
Russell Brand's a conspiracy theorist.
Russell Brand's right wing.
I'm aware of news media making phone calls, sending letters to people I know for ages and ages.
It's been clear to me, or at least it feels to me, like there's a serious and concerted agenda to control these kind of spaces and these kind of voices.
And I'm in my voice along with your voice.
Liv has pointed this out, but there's a jump cut right before he says consensual, mid-sentence.
It's so obvious.
It's like in the video, it's insane.
Like, what could they have possibly cut there?
Look at this.
Look at this.
The relationships I had were absolutely always consensual.
I was always transparent about that then.
Oh my God.
There's a jump cut before the word consensual.
Russell, I'm going to say, take that one twice.
Take that one twice.
Do a second take, man.
No, it's like, no, he's one take brand.
I don't know, it's like, I think somebody out there is like, well, sometimes there's a millisecond gap between the words that Russell Brand says.
We need him to be even more relentless.
That's the most unnerving thing about this guy, just the never-ending eye contact and just talking at such a high rate so that you just feel kind of overwhelmed, kind of bombarded by his words.
Yeah, he keeps pushing the air in front of him towards me.
Like, he's just constantly pushing something at the screen.
I don't know why you would do your, like, I'm getting cancelled video on Coke.
It's an interesting choice.
On Saturday the 16th, The Times published the results of its joint investigation with Channel 4 Dispatches.
The piece detailed the claims of four separate women accusing the comedian of rape, sexual assault and emotional abuse.
That same night, Channel 4 released a documentary detailing the allegations, titled Russell Brand in Plain Sight.
Both the report and the documentary are extremely tough to get through.
All of the women accused the comedian of sexually violent and abusive behaviour.
One of them says she was 16 years old at the time of their relationship while he was in his 30s, and that he would send taxis to her secondary school to take her back to his home.
Another woman alleges that after being raped by Brand in Los Angeles, she had to go to a rape crisis centre the next day.
Several people who worked on shows hosted by Brand describe his behaviour as an open secret in the media industry.
The events described in the allegations span from 2006 to 2013, so very much at the height of Brand's international fame, and as he himself said, when he was heavily employed in the mainstream media.
But it seems fair to say that the man has been through something of a personal political transformation since he was an A-list Hollywood star.
His YouTube channel, which he started in 2007, has increasingly pivoted to conspiratorial content in the last couple of years.
Particularly on the topics of COVID, the Great Reset and Ukraine.
Before the Times piece was released, his last videos had titles like, Bill Gates has been hiding this and it's all about to come out.
And, the FBI have been harvesting your DNA.
Yeah, they're all extremely YouTube clickbait.
Like he really embraced the format.
Yeah, and I think clickbait is the right word, because actually when you click through, many of the titles are a kind of bait-and-switch in a way, like, you kind of expect the full-throttle tinfoil hat rant, but what follows is kind of something more like a mixture of genuine news stories and legitimate critiques of state and corporate power, mixed with comedic ad-libbing, sly implications, and the infamous just-asking-questions tactic.
This is partially why O is reluctant to cover Brand for so long.
His content is undoubtedly in the conspiratorial style, but it's still a bit more complex than lots of Brand's detractors will claim.
He's often pointing to conspiracy theory answers, but it's not as if everything he's saying is a pack of lies or easily debunked misinformation.
So here, for example, he discusses the use of surveillance drones in policing and border enforcement, a real news story, and then kind of twists it to hint at this dark upcoming future.
Meanwhile Customs and Border Protection, CBP, which is part of the Department of Homeland Security, DHS, have refined their surveillance operations by including detection of sentiment and emotion by using AI-powered software.
Sentiment and emotion, like sort of inner states, the Archetypal inner organs of your life are being evaluated by government agencies now.
To what end?
Well, to help you, of course, and to keep you safe, I assume.
Those targeted by the software, targeted, are travellers either arriving to or leaving
the US who are considered a potential threat to a fairly wide range of interests, public
and national security, trade and travel.
They're introducing it with a community that they don't imagine will have much support.
Migrants.
Whether you're pro or anti-migrants, whether you're concerned about migration or not, let
me know in the comments.
Surely you will agree that this is a community that will be an easy way to pilot this idea.
This is just people that are coming into our country.
We've got to monitor their sentiments and facial expressions.
You think that that's going to be the end of it?
Have you ever experienced anything lately where it was introduced for a short time and then prolonged, whether it's the Patriot Act or measures around the pandemic?
Do you really believe that your government and its corporate partners have the discipline and goodwill to use this stuff judiciously?
Do you have that kind of trust?
Let me know in the comments.
Oh, my God.
Yeah, so he does this kind of a lot.
It's like, he kind of keeps on asking his audience questions, where he's just like, do you trust your government?
Let me know in the comments.
How do you feel about migrants?
Let me know.
Like, where, I don't know, he's kind of not really saying anything, do you know?
He's kind of leaving that stuff for his audience to say.
An end in a way that'll boost engagement too.
Oh yeah, absolutely.
Yeah, I can't wait to write a message to the YouTube video recorded three days ago that won't be able to respond to me.
I'm talking to Russell Brand.
He's capable of a conversation where he listens to you.
Uh-huh.
I actually do quite a lot like little videos where he will like read out comments that he's liked or that yeah he thinks are interesting.
So there is a bit of back and forth I guess here.
Now, would this kind of content be enough for the establishment to try and take Bran down with a well-timed Me Too story?
I'm not so naive to pretend that the media doesn't target people who dissent from the hegemonic political consensus.
There have been countless stories in this country of political activists, or even just ordinary people who in some way criticise, challenge or embarrass our ruling class, being subjected to the eye of Sauron that is the British tabloid press swinging in their direction, in a way that can be very genuinely life-ruining.
Could there be some truth to Brand's implication that this was an attempt to silence him as a result of the challenge he presented to the post-Covid political consensus?
In order to answer that question, it might be worth covering Russell Brand's career, alongside his personal, political and spiritual journey, in a bit more detail.
The comedian first gained national prominence in 2004 when he presented Big Brother's Big Mouth, a spin-off chat show to complement the Channel 4 reality TV series.
This was Bran's primetime debut for his idiosyncratic comedy style, where he combined his strong Essex accent with laddie sex jokes, rapid-fire literary and theatrical references, and the back-comb bouffant, eyeliner and skinny jeans fashion that had become the uniform of the 2000s indie sleaze genre.
Chantel's views on Big Brother are so bovine that Old Testament favourite Noah said on Dez and Mel, being nominated by God as the only human to survive was an honour which is almost impossible to express.
Gathering examples of each of Earth's species from the lowliest insect to the most complex mammal was a challenge that made heaven on Earth, for me, a reality.
He added, mind you, that ark stank of shit.
And sometimes the loneliness was crippling.
I'm ashamed to admit that one night I was sucked off by a monkey.
Mikey's views!
Mikey's views are so poor sign that when I heard them, I went to platform nine and three quarters at King's Cross Station.
Got on the Hogwarts Express, body popped to the Quidditch Arena, where a tournament was about to take place.
Beckoned Harry Potter, Ron Weasley and Hermione Granger into a close huddle.
Pulled down my trousers and pants.
waxed my dinkle till it was stiff as a broom handle and yelled
"Lads! This magic wand will terrorize those burks of Slytherin!
Keep your mitts off my philosopher's stones though!" Hagrid reported me to the
police. This is Big Brother's Big Mouth!
I think the whole island needs to be... I think we should...
That felt like a fake TV show from like one of the television screens in Idiocracy.
You know what I mean?
Like a fake show.
Like a Mitchell and Webb look.
Yeah.
Yeah, funnily enough.
So all of these Big Brother clips have been on YouTube for like, you know, I think that one was like six years old or something like that.
But interestingly enough, since these allegations came out, the company that produces Big Brother has been going through and doing all these copyright strikes on them, which is why I had to download it, because that was one of the last ones standing.
Yeah, which I just found funny.
Comedy is dead!
They're banning funny stuff.
Banning Harry Potter sex jokes now.
Yeah, no longer can we hear about this full-grown man jacking off to child wizards.
Believe it or not, Bran's presenting style was a success, and from there he leapt from strength to strength on shows that were the televisual backbone of the British comedy circuit, like Have I Got News For You.
By 2007, he was hosting his own BBC travelogues and comedy shows.
He had very much become an ubiquitous name in the United Kingdom by this time, which was certainly helped by the fact that nobody else looked or sounded quite like him.
For good reason.
He cut his teeth on shows like What's That, Love?
and… Bran's first attempt at breaking into an American audience was something of a mixed bag.
After his appearance in the Hollywood comedy Forgetting Sarah Marshall, in which he played Bohemian rock musician Aldous Snow, he was given an opportunity to host the 2008 MTV Awards.
Here he used his opening monologue to discuss the upcoming US presidential election, in which he referred to George W. Bush as, quote, a retarded cowboy fella.
...and compared Britney Spears to Jesus Christ.
Rand later claimed to receive a huge amount of death threats over the episode, but also noted that MTV had said the outrage was good for ratings, leading to him getting invited to present the awards the next year too.
Meanwhile, his Aldous Snow character was apparently so popular with audiences that he garnered his own spin-off buddy comedy film Get Him to the Greek, released in 2010 and co-starring Jonah Hill.
It was apparently on set for this film that Brand met the American pop star Katy Perry.
The two were married a year later, and while it's not really relevant for this episode, while researching I found out that apparently her hit song Teenage Dream is about him.
So there's a little bit of pop trivia for you.
Because Bran's first forays into the political arena were all very UK-focused, it might be worth talking a little bit about the reputation he had earned here, which might not be quite as apparent to our listeners from other countries.
To British audiences, Bran's stratospheric success was very much a tale of working-class achievement.
The comedian made no secret of his humble beginnings growing up in a single-parent household in Essex.
He's spoken pretty movingly about feeling a sense of powerlessness when bailiffs came to his mother's house as a child, and how that general sense of disempowerment contributed to him first becoming a bulimic as a teenager, and later a heroin addict.
His struggle with drug addiction and later recovery is a frequent topic in his comedy routines.
Right, so I used to be able to distract myself from feeling embarrassed and ashamed by drinking and taking drugs, cheering me up a little bit.
Can't do that anymore because I've spoiled it, took too much of it.
But, thanks.
Thanks for cheering the old near decline.
It's part of me that's not really over it.
There's a little part of my brain that's... Russell, where are the opiates?
I'm afraid we can't have any more opiates.
Why?
She nearly killed me, didn't she?
It was just a joke.
All of this is to say that there was a fair amount of sympathy for Brand, particularly on the British left, when the comedian began to get more explicitly political and openly anti-capitalist in the 2010s.
In the wake of the 2011 riots that ripped through London and other large cities in August that year, he wrote a commentary piece for The Guardian, outlining the conditions of poverty and despair that had made the violence and destruction possible, and condemning the punitive response of the political class.
Why am I surprised that these young people behave destructively, mindlessly, motivated only by self-interest?
How should we describe the actions of city bankers who brought our economy to its knees in 2010?
Altruistic, mindful, kind.
But then again, they do wear suits, so they deserve to be bailed out.
Perhaps that's why not one of them has been imprisoned.
And they got away with a lot more than a few fucking pairs of trainers.
Oh my god, that's actually uncanny, man.
Yeah, it's got a kind of, like, you give it a kind of Sex Pistols vibe?
I don't know, like... Yeah, it's easy.
You just go high, you scream, and then, like, my, like, kind of bad British accent, like, kind of works in this sense, since his is kind of weird.
Yes, yes.
In 2013 he took his political outlook one step further when in an editorial for the New Statesman he called for a revitalised holistic left-wing movement and expressed his disdain for the current cross-party economic consensus.
I don't vote because to me it seems like a tacit act of compliance.
I know, I know my grandparents fought in two World Wars and one World Cup and so that I'd have the right to vote.
Well, they were conned.
As far as I'm concerned there is nothing to vote for.
I feel it is a far more potent political act to completely renounce the current paradigm than to participate in even the most trivial and tokenistic manner by obediently X-ing a little box.
Total revolution of consciousness and our entire social, political and economic system is what interests me, but that's not even on the ballot.
Is utopian revolution possible?
The free-thinking social architect Buckminster Fuller said humanity now faces a choice.
Oblivion or Utopia.
We're inadvertently ambling towards Oblivion.
Is Utopia really an option?
Wow, you have really managed to capture him because it is just as annoying.
First time, by the way, never done a Russell Brand imitation.
Oh yeah.
A celebrity popular with young people declaring not only that he didn't vote but that it was a deliberate political choice got people's attention in a way I'm not sure it would today.
This was a time of general ambient anxiety in the mainstream media around the lack of political engagement with the younger generation, and Brand had essentially declared himself a figurehead of that disengagement.
He was invited for an interview on Newsnight with Jeremy Paxman, British TV's notoriously tough interviewer, to answer for his self-disenfranchisement.
How do you imagine that people get power?
Well, I imagine there are sort of hierarchical systems that have been preserved through generations.
They get power by being voted in.
That's how they get it.
You can't even be asked to vote.
It's quite a narrow, quite a narrow prescriptive parameter that changes within the... In a democracy, that's how it works.
Well, I don't think it's working very well, Jeremy, given that the planet is being destroyed, given that there is economic disparity of a huge degree.
What are you saying?
There's no alternative?
There's no alternative?
No, I'm not saying that.
I'm saying if you can't be asked to vote, why should we be asked to listen to your political point of view?
You don't have to listen to my political point of view.
Well why don't you change it then?
Not that I'm not voting out of apathy, I'm not voting out of absolute indifference and
weariness and exhaustion from the lies, treachery, deceit of the political class that has been
going on for generations now and which has now reached fever pitch where we have a disenfranchised,
disillusioned, despondent underclass that are not being represented by that political
system.
So voting for it is tacit complicite with that system and that's not something I'm offering
up.
Well why don't you change it then?
I'm trying to.
Well why don't you start by voting?
I don't think it works.
People have voted already and that's what's created the current paradigm.
When did you last vote?
Never.
You've never ever voted?
No.
Do you think that's really bad?
So you struck an attitude, what, before the age of 18?
Well, I was busy being a drug addict at that point because I come from the kind of social conditions that are exacerbated by an indifferent system that really just administrates for large corporations and ignores the population that it was voting in to serve.
You're blaming the political class for the fact that you had a drug problem?
No, no, no.
I'm saying I was part of a social and economic class that is underserved by the current political system and drug addiction is one of the problems it creates when you have huge, underserved, impoverished populations.
People get drug problems and also don't feel like they want to engage with the current political system because they see that it doesn't work for them.
They see that it makes no difference.
They see that they're not served.
Of course it doesn't work for them if they don't bother to vote.
Jeremy, my darling.
I'm not saying that the apathy doesn't come from us, the people.
The apathy comes from the politicians.
They are apathetic to our needs.
They're only interested in servicing the needs of corporations.
I think they deserve him.
And I think this is his best role.
They should force every person on the BBC, males especially, to have to sit with this man and be called darling.
As a debate brand.
Yeah, being called darling by like a vampire of some sort.
Look at his outfit.
It's pure Count Dracula.
He also just loves to do like the three 3ds like he'll throw out like disillusioned dishonest disenfranchised disenfranchised It's like he's like Hamilton rapping.
What are you speaking?
Love making fun of Hamilton Absolutely The interview went viral on social media.
I remember watching it at the time and while I didn't necessarily agree with Brand about not voting as a tool of accelerationist change, I still felt pretty sympathetic with him.
Paxman's interview style of sneering condescension, usually highly effective against politicians of a similar class, just came off badly to me up against both Brand's cheeky chappy persona and the very real problems he was outlining.
Even if it was kind of clear that the comedian hadn't really ironed out the details on how exactly his revolutionary solutions were going to work.
You don't believe in democracy, you want a revolution, don't you?
The planet is being destroyed, we are creating an underclass, we are exploiting poor people all over the world, and the genuine legitimate problems of the people are not being addressed by our political class.
All of those things may be true.
They are true.
But you took...
I wouldn't argue with you about many of them.
Well, how come I feel so cross with you?
It can't just be because of that beard.
It's gorgeous.
It's possibly because... And if the Daily Mail don't want it, I do.
I'm against them.
Grow it longer.
Tangle it into your armpit hair.
You are a very trivial man.
Well, do you think I am trivial?
Yes.
A minute ago you were having a go at me because I wanted a revolution.
Now I'm trivial.
I'm bouncing about a lot.
I'm not having a go at you because you want a revolution.
Many people want a revolution, but I'm asking you what it will be like.
Well, I think what it won't be like is a huge disparity between rich and poor, where 300 Americans have the same amount of wealth as the 85 million poorest Americans, Where there is an exploited and underserved underclass that are being continually ignored, where welfare is slashed while Cameron and Osborne go to court to defend the rights of bankers to continue receiving their bonuses.
What's the scheme?
That's all I'm asking.
What's the scheme?
You talk vaguely about revolution.
What is it?
I think a socialist egalitarian system based on the massive redistribution of wealth, heavy taxation of corporations and massive responsibility for energy companies and any company that's exploiting the environment.
I think the very concept of profit should be hugely reduced.
David Cameron says profit isn't a dirty word.
I say profit is a filthy word because wherever there is profit there is also deficit.
And this system currently doesn't address these ideas.
And so why would anyone vote for it?
Why would anyone be interested in it?
Who would levy these taxes?
I think we do need to, like, there needs to be a centralised administrative system, but built on... A government?
There needs to be a government.
Well, maybe call it something else.
Call them, like, the admin bods, so they don't get ahead of themselves.
And how would they be chosen?
Jeremy, don't ask me to sit here in an interview with you in a bloody hotel room and devise a global utopian system.
I'm merely pointing out that the current... You're calling for revolution?
Yeah.
Absolutely.
Absolutely.
I'm calling for change.
I'm calling for genuine alternatives.
Brand was offered a book deal in which to expand on his answer to Paxman on what his ideal political system would look like, which he naturally titled Revolution.
The book was advertised with taglines like, the people who think the system works, work for the system, with imagery that self-consciously styled Brand as a new Che Guevara.
Che Guevara sings for the cure.
It's interesting to go in and actually read the book almost ten years after it was published in 2014.
Despite all of the Occupy Wall Street-esque branding, the first thing that struck me was how much more of a religious treatise it was than a political one.
The importance of faith and the belief that Western culture's obsessively materialistic perspective is responsible for our lack of solidarity are both constant themes.
Brand had previously talked about how spirituality had been a useful tool in his recovery from addiction, but Revolution at times feels more like it's making the case for the centrality of religion in all our lives, as a form of collective liberation from our consumerist, individualist programming.
As he writes in the introduction for the book, The cultural anthropologist Joseph Campbell said, if you want to understand what's most important to a society, don't examine its art or literature, simply look at its biggest buildings.
In medieval societies, the biggest buildings were its churches and palaces.
Using Campbell's methods, we can assume these were feudal cultures that revered their leaders and worshipped God.
In modern western cities, the biggest buildings are the banks, bloody great towers that dominate the docklands.
And the shopping centers, which architecturally ape the cathedrals they've replaced.
Domes, spires, eerie celestial calm, fountains for fonts, food courts for pews.
I mean, this guy is sounding like a Roman statue Twitter account right now.
Yeah, he really puts the pervert in Bronze Age pervert.
To be fair, I think Bronze Age pervert also puts the pervert.
Very true.
Yeah, maybe he just like emphasizes the pervert and Bronze Age pervert.
It's in italics.
No, and one thing that's really interesting actually in this book is that I think Joseph Campbell might be like the second most quoted person in it, which is, you know, unusual for a book that's supposed to be a kind of like a left-wing kind of political theory book.
Yeah, I blame Carl Jung for a lot of these types of guys.
Yeah, Jung comes up a lot as well, as you can imagine.
It comes back to the thing we invented on Man Clan, where we need to go back in time and kill Jung.
Why not Freud too?
It might be more accurate to say that revolution is less about beginning a revolution in the material sense of the word, And more making the left-wing case for a refocusing on the immaterial, the spiritual and the divine.
This is something that comes up a lot in Brand's old YouTube videos too, such as in this one where he responds to a commenter saying religion causes more harm than good.
Hello!
Welcome to the Truths Comments edition.
Here are some comments that you've sent us to communicate what you're feeling in that.
Josh Green.
Russell.
Quit hating on Dawkins.
You know religion has done more harm than good.
How can we measure that?
Anyway, what you call religion, I call territorialism and ideological imperialism.
I don't think it's good to go around on crusades or do jihads or lie to people or have a go at people.
But I do think it's good to have a system that connects the known and the unknown and for us to have a ritualised way of understanding the limitations of our own perspective and embracing ideas that are beyond our consciousness.
and that's what religion's meant to be for me.
And old Dickie Dawkins, with his way of judging the world, prevents the positive things about religion.
And I think if we eschew those positive things, then we ain't got any chance of countermenting
the materialistic ideologues that currently govern us, like governments, big corporations, and that.
So I think religion might be a way of circumnavigating them.
I don't think we can do it with old leftist ideas or old revolutionary notions,
'cause I don't think they work anymore.
Obviously, there'd have to be loads of administration, collectivization, all that, but I'm saying part of it
is a sense of spiritual connection.
There really just isn't much under the surface here.
It's just like, things are bad, and then it's like, well, what is your account of that?
And it's just like, he's just throwing words at you.
Yeah.
I'm trying to think of what that actually means, and there's no real coherent... Like, he's like a Christian social democrat, maybe?
Yeah, yeah, I'd say so.
I mean, I have to admit, like, I don't actually think he's making, like, a bad point here.
Like, as a religious person whose political sympathies do lie on the left, it's probably not too far from what I believe, too.
But you're certainly right, I think he's, like, really not a details guy at all.
Well, he's also like old leftist ideas, you know, which is always code word for like a weird third way that just doesn't want to do a class analysis that confuses materialism with materialism, you know?
Yeah, I definitely get the impression that as Brand explored this newfound philosophy, he became increasingly uninterested in the practical issues of material solutions to the real problems he identified.
Increasingly, as you watch his videos throughout the years, you can see him slowly shifting towards what he clearly sees as a spiritual rather than an economic malaise.
The thing that remains constant is his strong distrust for elites.
It's also by this point pretty indisputable that there is a powerful digital pipeline from many of the spaces dedicated to the kind of wellness practices and spirituality that Brand was interested in that leads towards right-wing conspiracism.
Some have termed this pipeline conspirituality, and there's a great book out about it by our friends Julian Walker, Derek Beres, and Matthew Remsky, who host the podcast of the same name.
They describe conspirituality as a kind of online religion in its own right, which fuses together two faith claims.
One, that the world is possessed by evil forces.
And two, those who see this clearly are called to foster in themselves and others a new spiritual paradigm.
I think it's useful also to take a look at one of his recent videos here, The FBI Have Been Harvesting Your DNA?
You can see all his faded tattoos of Ganesh and references to the chakras.
Those are faded, but his fresh one is Jesus Christ on the cross on his bicep.
Aha.
Oh man, you're doing tattoo analysis, Julia.
That's right.
I'll measure his skull, too.
This is the kind of, yeah, we've got like Liv doing like forensic digital analysis of the jump cuts in the videos, too.
This is what happens when we get the whole team together.
That's right.
You've got me doing his obnoxious squawking.
And Travis, the calm, peaceful observer, as always.
Yeah, Travis oversees to make sure that we don't get off track.
Yeah, to get a line.
Sometimes it feels like Brand's newer content is the perfect synthesis of these two ideals that you can't help but wonder if you didn't read the Conspirituality book and take it to be a user manual.
Here, for example, is a clip from a longer video in 2023 in which Brand bemoans the results of a recent survey which found that only half of Americans claim to believe in God.
Now, I've got skin in the game.
I do believe in God.
I believe that God is unity, love, service and kindness.
And I sometimes act as if I am separate and all that matters is me and what I think and what I feel.
And often I feel very unhappy as a result of that.
And what helps me to navigate myself back to a position of faith and love is acting in accordance with those principles.
In a way, it doesn't matter if you believe in God Or not.
What matters is that you believe in something, and that that something includes kindness, service, community, love, tolerance, acceptance.
If you believe in nothing at all, the world will be in trouble.
And I would say that this lack of belief in God is undergirded by our lack of belief in anything at all.
We know that the FBI and the CIA are corrupt, that the Republican Party and the Democrat Party are corrupt, that the WHO appears to be behaving in a very strange way, that the IMF leverages loans against nations, that the military-industrial complex seems to be able to lobby for wars, that people continually lie to us in the media.
How can we believe in Christ or Mohammed, peace be upon him, or the Buddha, even though Buddhism is to some degree an anti-deistic theology?
How can we believe in God?
Well, we have to believe in God by finding God What's that now, love?
Oh, man when he when his like lips kind of draw back and you can see his gums like I experience a visceral terror
It's like an alien 3 when the when the xenomorph gets like right up close to
Ripley's head and its lips kind of peel back and the drools coming out and you can see the silver teeth
What's that now?
You've got me queen inside of you *Laughter*
She's got a queen She's got a queen inside of her!
I'm not gonna touch her!
You've been listening to bloody Klaus Schwab, innit?
Prior to Covid, Brand's YouTube channel was generally focused on 10-15 minute videos which just shared some select clips, usually with commentary, from Brand's longer-form podcast interviews with philosophers, academics and journalists.
Most of it is unobjectionable, and even pretty interesting content, mainly as a result of the calibre of guests that Brand is able to pull.
Two things stick out to me watching this content and the run-up to Brown's foray into more conspiracy-friendly topics.
One was that, in keeping with his social media strategy now, many of these pretty mild interviews have very conspiratorial titles.
An interview with an economic anthropologist, Jason Hickel, about global inequality and third world debt is transformed with the title, How Global Puppet Masters Created a New World Order.
A conversation with the journalist Gary Young about knife crime and systemic racism becomes, the truth is, they want us to hate each other.
Now, without knowing Russell Brand's future trajectory, you might just think this is a condemnation of social media's incentives for creators more than anything else.
Clearly, inflammatory conspiracy titles are a winning strategy.
The second was Bran's increasing complementary use of the word populism and his references to his YouTube following as a community that helped ground him to the views of the people.
Here's one video from 2021 where he re-watches the infamous Jeremy Paxman interview and comments on his confrontation strategy.
Can I realise now, old Amanda I am, that many of the things that caused that interview to go viral were because I was a mouthpiece to what a lot of people are feeling.
And that's something that I recognise now is really important.
Stay in tune to the populare.
Stay in tune with what people are feeling.
Subsequent to this, politics blew up, didn't it?
Donald Trump Brexit, loads of things that are related to democracy and the power of voting and only time will tell how significant those moments were in terms of the actual power dynamics in so much as they affect the lives of you.
I'm assuming you're an ordinary person.
Like me.
How did your life actually change?
What things happened?
Now, of course, something like Brexit, if you're a sort of a trader that relies on EU relationships, it will have an impact.
If under the auspices of Trump's tutelage, there was... I mean, I don't know what actually changed.
I know that the discourse is sort of radically ordinary.
I know a lot of you really like Donald Trump and a lot of you really hate Donald Trump.
Me, what I'm interested in and what I think politics really means is getting power to the people that are affected by the decisions that they make.
that are being made.
Make those decisions yourself.
Be involved in making those decisions.
You are not an ordinary person, sir.
I'm sorry.
The only way you can kind of tell is because he's talking about his, like, YouTube audience as, like, the populare.
Yeah.
That's what keeps... The people are the commenters on YouTube?
I really worry for humanity if that is the case.
Right.
We are so fucked if that's the case.
Yeah.
Now, if you've listened to my work on this podcast before, you might have heard me talking about how we often think of radicalisation on YouTube as a top-down process, where creators beam messages of conspiracy or hate into the receptive minds of their passive audience.
But researchers like Becca Lewis at the University of Stanford have shown that it's not that simple.
Often audiences demand increasingly radical content from their preferred creators too.
We've democratised the brain rot through social media.
Brand was making dissenting noises about Covid for a while, but his videos were, for the most part, on the reasonable side of the line of general policy disagreements.
He disputed the efficacy of vaccine mandates, for example, citing research by health historians that suggested compulsory vaccination increased hesitancy.
It was content that was highly critical of various governments' pandemic policies, but despite the bombastic titles, it was careful to stay within YouTube's content guidelines, a restriction that Brand himself would acknowledge at the beginning of the video.
Watching the content through chronologically, I felt as if I was watching Brand gradually lose touch with real concerns about Covid policy and begin to substitute that material with increasingly dark warnings about terrible dystopian futures right round the corner.
One of his first videos about the Great Reset in 2021 began pretty reasonably, in which Brand criticised the concept of sustainable development as one that still prioritised profit and growth over the environment.
And then he seamlessly slipped into the dark world of science fiction promised by so many conspiracy telegram chats.
I'm glad that so many of you were engaged by the great reset video and I'm really happy to have this opportunity to dive deeper into a subject that, let's face it, is going to go on and on as globalisation continues and the sense that we are separated from power and The way that we are evolved to live becomes more and more distant and remote.
We don't live as tribes.
We're not in control of our own resources.
The idea that we will own nothing and we will be happy sounds like a terrifying, not Orwellian, but sort of Huxleyan idea that we will be somered into compliance, drugged by a sort of a magical substance in our water into dumb compliance with the objectives of the powerful while we live as kind of human drones.
It's crazy to me to be like older than in the 11th grade and still do the like, well
it's not 1984, it's Brave New World actually.
The two books.
Yeah, two books he read.
Yeah, that tribes thing as well is something that he brings up quite a lot actually.
I think it's based on a book that he's read which basically argues that that kind of civilization has become too advanced for like the kind of way that human brains have evolved to keep up and actually what makes us happy is to live in communities of I think like max 500 people or something.
He like kind of brings it up or like references this idea a lot that we're we're not in tribes anymore.
Which, again, I kind of find quite interesting because even though he doesn't really sound like a return guy, do you know?
Like he doesn't have that kind of like far-right like style or aesthetic.
It's like undoubtedly a reactionary argument.
Right.
And like central to like early fascist critiques is like the global, you know, bankers or whatever.
Finance capital is the problem and we need to return to like a more holistic, organic society.
What does he propose though?
A whole tribe of people who dress in derelict fashion?
Whole tribe of people who do not brush their hair.
Here in January 2022, he responds to a couple of news stories about trials of under-the-skin microchip technology, a concept that has been red meat to conspiracy networks for decades now.
They're already getting under the skin of the Swedes and may soon become just another normal part of modern life and of the human body.
Tears of Jesus Christ weeping in the heavens as human beings blindly and dumbly march into their own terrible Armageddon.
At this tech fair, a chipping event for those on the cutting edge.
Oh, you're on the cutting edge!
Turn me into a sheep!
I wonder what these various camps are going to become.
Unless we can achieve some kind of global awakening where people like the young folk in this video that are gleefully granting access to interests that have proven to be somewhat unreliable, I'm talking about the state and big tech, to actually inside their bodies.
Before long it's consciousness itself isn't it?
Like we can insert this chip into your mind and it will prevent you from thinking certain thoughts.
I mean that Kind of.
That level of control is already being granted through propagandist means, through censoral means, about around communication anyway.
I spoke to Dr Rob Topinka, a senior lecturer at Birkbeck, the University of London, who has been researching Brand's YouTube channel.
He explained how Brand's shift on Covid very much seemed like part of a deliberate strategy to court a more right-wing Covid-sceptic audience.
So for him to pick up on COVID makes a lot of sense in that way because he was someone who has always sort of rejected centralized power.
There was a very clear shift on his YouTube channel and this is what really encouraged me to do a deep dive on his work is because prior to, and the date is the 16th of January 2022, His YouTube channel was full of all sorts of kind of vaguely anti-elitist stuff.
Like he would interview anarchist philosophers.
He would talk about chemicals in McDonald's food.
He would talk about the importance of nature.
He would talk about meditation and wellness.
And sometimes he would talk about COVID.
And you could see it coming up in the comments.
People saying, you know, he had one video about phthalates in McDonald's food.
And a lot of the comments were saying, this is just before he shifted to COVID skepticism on January 16th.
A lot of the comments were saying, these are the same people who want us to get jabbed.
You know, the people putting the phthalates in our food also want us to get jabbed.
Suddenly on January 16th, Brand shifted to non-stop COVID skepticism.
So like 10 videos before January 16th, one was about COVID.
The 10 videos after, eight of them were.
So he tapped into something.
His viewing numbers went up.
The number of comments went up.
The number of people saying, you know, I didn't used to like you, Russell, but now you're my go-to source for information.
That became a consistent theme.
So he clearly realized there was an audience waiting for this sort of content, and he tapped into it.
More recently, in the weeks leading up to this Channel 4 report about the allegations against him, he was really moving further to the right.
A lot of his videos were saying Biden.
The titles would be, you know, like, Biden's big lie.
And he would, in the video, not necessarily endorse Trump.
I mean, actually, he almost never really takes a political position.
He's very cagey about it.
He'll say, you know, a lot of you, a lot of you like Donald Trump.
I don't know what to think.
Let me know what you think in the comments.
But he got more and more kind of agitated and animated about Democratic figures and more and more implying and suggesting Trump is the only one who is resisting these sort of mainstream lies.
Uh, he started, you know, one of his most watched videos is an interview with Tucker Carlson.
Uh, and he also got famous.
One of, one of the things that made him famous politically in the mid 2010s was his attacks on Fox News.
So there's a bit of a very clear shift that's, that's gone underway.
And he's, as he's tapped into that COVID skeptic audience, the kind of right-wing momentum has in some ways carried him along.
Dr. DePinca described an in-depth analysis he performed on Bran's YouTube comments section, exploring a dataset of the comments to see if he could identify a connection between the changes in Bran's content and the online community that interacted with it.
He found several changes in how commenters responded to the comedian before and after what he called Bran's Covid-sceptic shift.
For this paper what I did was try to identify where this shift to COVID skepticism happened and it does seem like it was a kind of content strategy that he had either on his own or with his team because it was so stark that he occasionally would talk about COVID often in the context of talking about Australia which had the kind of most draconian measures but then suddenly on January 16th he did he does daily videos and his next eight after January 16th were all about COVID.
And that pattern continued.
Now it's kind of opened up a bit.
It talks a lot about Ukraine, a lot of criticism of Biden.
But COVID is still kind of the dominant theme.
So I was interested in this shift and I was wondering if I could figure out why it happened and what happened with his audience.
So I picked 10 videos.
I did a weekly sample.
He posts every day.
So I didn't look at every day's video, but I looked at one per week for the 10 weeks prior to the shift and the 10 weeks following the shift.
And I used a tool that if anyone is really into YouTube, it's called YouTube Data Tools.
And you can grab every comment from a YouTube video.
So I grabbed all the comments from 20 videos, 10 before, 10 after the COVID Skeptic Shift.
It was like 200,000 comments.
And then I did things to look at.
First, I looked at the number of replies and I visualized that to see if people were talking with one another.
And one thing that was really interesting was that before the COVID Skeptic Shift, there was a lot of conversation.
And you can see this if you graph it, that there's all these people exchanging ideas back and forth with one another.
After he shifts to COVID skepticism, those replies almost entirely disappear.
There's almost no conversation in the comments, but there's a skyrocketing number of likes.
So replies went way down, but likes increased.
And the way I explain that in the paper is that there is a shift from a kind of idiosyncratic, anti-elitist, vaguely anarchist, also conspiratorial community discussing things with one another, to a shift to a community that's focused entirely on being fans of brand.
And praising Russell Brand and saying, Brand, you're a hero.
Brand, be careful.
They're going to come for you.
They're going to cancel you.
I can't believe they're letting you get away with this.
You're my only news source.
So it shifts from this kind of discussion section to a fan section.
So that was one thing that was that was really interesting.
The other thing is, as that shift happens, the viewpoints get much more right wing.
And the way I measured that is just based on what people were saying and whether they were coming from the left or right.
And these are very obvious.
So after the COVID skeptic shift, people would frequently post, let's go, Brandon, you know.
or Trucker's Convoy, or, you know, criticism of Trudeau, criticism of the Democratic Party.
Before that, there wasn't praise for the Democratic Party, but people didn't talk
about partisan politics in that sort of way. They tended to be much more anecdotal,
a lot of stuff about getting back to nature, advice about, you know, you should recycle
your beer bottles, so it's this kind of like, sort of almost charming, kind of vaguely reactionary,
but also just sort of like, you know, no one should tell you what to do.
You should discover for yourself.
You should live off the land.
We should live off the grid.
Stuff that clearly could feed conspiratorial ideas, but wasn't so hyper-partisan.
And then after the shift, it's clearly very, very hyper-partisan.
So, we know that as Brand pivoted his content towards Covid scepticism, his audience changed too.
And one big change was that they were vastly more flattering of Brand himself.
The reward for Brand talking more about these topics wasn't just an adoring fanbase though.
According to a BBC article, Where Brand was previously racking up about 100,000 to 300,000 views per video, posts on ivermectin, vaccine passports, and Donald Trump topics gained him figures in the millions.
Now, videos featuring figures associated with the alt-right in the US, like Tucker Carlson, outperform earlier interviews with celebrities including actor Emma Watson and presenter Jameela Jamil.
A recent interview with Bear Grylls about Surviving in the Wild, more similar to Brand's old style, saw his viewing figures back down to 167,000 views.
Yeah, I found that, like, really interesting that this new fan base of brands are basically, like, not loyal to him at all.
It's like the second he, like, tries to, like, steer off topics that they want to talk about, like Ivor Mecton and Donald Trump and things like that, they're just immediately just like, nah, not watching.
Don't want to see you, like, interviewing a celebrity about survivalism.
Teaching him to reshape his editorial line.
Yeah.
Yeah, that's the deal with the devil, right?
It's like you get a massive fan base that's very fervent, but they're very fickle.
They will turn on you in a second when you start stepping out of line.
And that teaches you, you know, as a content creator to stand right in the line.
Yeah, yeah, like discipline is pretty strict.
Another finding of Dr Tobinka's analysis was that Brand's audience seemed to change from what we might call old-school conspiracy theorists, who would discuss specific theories and explanations for events that they were interested in, to people who just seemed to be fans of conspiracy theories as an abstract concept in general.
And the other thing that happens that's really important is that conspiracy becomes a kind of dominant theme.
But what was interesting to me is that although there was less discussion of conspiracy before he shifted to COVID skepticism, in those comments before he before he started talking about COVID skepticism, people would actually discuss conspiracy.
So they would kind of old fashioned conspiracy.
So people would mention like the Bilderberg Group or the Trilateral Commission or the Rothschild.
Uh, the Rothschilds, and they would explain that there was an elite conspiracy.
But then after he shifted to talking more about conspiracies himself and more about COVID skepticism, people would just say, oh, you know, this must be a conspiracy or, oh, I need a new conspiracy.
All the ones I believed came true or conspiracies should be called spoiler alerts.
They wouldn't actually name any conspiracies.
They would just name the fact that people get criticized for believing in conspiracies But conspiracies actually have this unique insight that other forms of political analysis don't.
So it was almost like it didn't become more conspiratorial.
It became oriented around conspiracy while becoming less conspiratorial in content.
It was really bizarre.
People weren't really naming or discussing or arguing for any conspiracies.
They were just saying conspiracies are banned by the mainstream and that by that almost proves that they're true.
As they talked more about conspiracy, in a way they talked about it less.
And it just became a way of saying, I'm on the conspiracy team.
I'm on the Russell Brand team.
That's the right way to think about politics.
That's what brings our community together.
Let's celebrate it.
But again, not getting into any of the details.
And Brand himself doesn't.
I mean, he doesn't really name them all that specifically.
So I think that's interesting for efforts to combat conspiracies and misinformation, because often there's this focus on, well, what do these people believe?
Why, you know, what piece of misinformation are they connecting with?
How can we debunk it?
But here there's nothing to debunk.
It's a kind of emotional orientation to politics.
It's not about, I literally think, you know, that the Great Reset is being planned in XYZ way, or I literally think, you know, that there's a, that the Democrats are kidnapping children for, you know, sexual trafficking.
Nothing of that.
Just conspiracies are the right way to think and orient yourself to the world.
That's a really interesting point.
Yeah.
The emotional, the emotional connection.
I mean, I see that so much on, on social media that it's just, yeah, that all you really need is this kind of general, general distrust, uh, you know, of the sort of, um, you know, academic news or, or the, I don't know, the agreed upon sort of generally agreed upon narrative.
That it almost doesn't matter what the details are, it's just that you oppose it.
And they view themselves, I think, as like the count, you know, this like counterculture.
And that's kind of enough, I guess.
I mean, yeah, it's like, it becomes like just a posture, where it's like,
all their general posture is that whatever is mainstream or common or accepted is just a lie.
When you go like, well, you know, actually, you know, vaccines don't cause autism.
That's just not true.
There's no evidence of that.
They say, oh, so you're saying that like, you know, the mainstream politicians and the media
and scientists are always telling the truth, always?
That's what you believe.
Like, no, no, that's not what I'm saying.
I'm saying in this particular instance, you're mistaken.
And then, so it becomes a little bit more, you know, black and white position for them.
Yeah, it just goes, where'd you get that from?
Which talking points did you get that from?
Did you read that on CNN?
Did you read that here?
Yeah, it's really interesting that I don't think I'm quite... I don't think I'm... Intelligent is the wrong word, but it's such a very specific sort of thing.
I don't know if I can characterize it properly, but it's like, yeah, it's just this emotion.
It's like going against the grain, how it feels good to like the movie that nobody else really likes.
It's contrarianism.
Yeah, there's contrarianism and there's, in a way, you know, I think people view themselves as, they view that as freeing because then they don't have to go and look up anything further and weigh specific cases versus other specific cases or specific facts versus other ones.
It's just sort of this general vibe that it's like, nah, I don't trust anything.
I don't trust anything.
And the people I do trust are the ones who are telling me not to trust anything because that aligns with how I feel about this stuff.
Yeah, I think that's right and I think it's something that I think like often attempts to satirise modern conspiracy culture can often miss.
That kind of general antagonism that I think is so important to it, that it's not just about believing something crazy or believing something out there.
It often feels to me to be about believing something that you believe the powers that be or the powerful do not want you to believe.
Do you know?
And it's often kind of a sense of like, yeah, kind of, you know, well, I'm, I'm sticking it to those guys by believing this.
Do you know?
Like, I think, yeah, it's often like easier when you think about it, like with specific, specific figures.
So for instance, people would kind of, I think often adopt like a kind of belief about Hillary Clinton sacrificing kids or whatever.
And kind of, if they were asked about it, they would kind of often respond, resort to this pose where it's just like, well, it's the kind of thing she would do.
Do you know?
Like, and I know people, and I know she and, you know, all these other kind of, you know, elites, sort of Washington elites don't want me to believe it.
I feel like Glenn Greenwald is probably a good example of like this sort of contrarian attitude and where it takes you where he's just like, well, I'm going to say something and if people yell at me, that means I'm hitting the mark.
So like, that's where he kind of followed the, one of the reasons why he followed that sort of anti-woke thing out of any sort of, and now he's like pro Bolsonaro because he's followed that so far.
A lot of conspiracy people will measure, like, how they're attacking the powers that be in, like, a really awkward way.
Like, which opinion is the most socially impolite, like, will get me stared at the most if I yell about it in a Denny's?
Well, and it's so dangerous, too, that, like, people are able to brush off criticism, real criticisms, in this, well, I must be over the target.
That if people are pushing back against me, that means I must be right.
That is, and I think that's a pretty natural place for, at least, You know, most people on the internet that are arguing about this kind of stuff, that it's like, well, if I'm getting pushback, you know, that means that I'm right.
It's so much easier to claim what you don't believe in than what you do.
It's so much easier because you can just say like, well, I don't subscribe to that.
As opposed to saying like, well, here's what I subscribe to and why.
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